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C O N T E N T S. — No. 88.
NOTES:— The Royal Arms: a Suggested Change, 1—
Samuel Owen, Uncle of August Strindberg, 3— Shake-
speariana, 4 -British Navy, 1587-1919— Prisoners of War
and their Letters in 1753— Sir Thomas Browne : Tom
Brown, 6 -St. Trunnion: his Identity— " Diukum Whop"
— The Judges' Level — Rutter Family Name, 7 — Markshall
and Fuller Family— Elsinore— Empson E. Middleton, 8.
QUERIES :— " Qusrel:e o'Allemand ' '— Scottish Chiefs-
Oath of Fealty: Edward III.— Col. A. R. Macdoneh's
Duel with Norman Macleod, 9 — Penrhyn Devil as a
Knocker — Homes of Foulshotlaw : Janet Diclrson —
Kinghorn of Fireburnmill— The Constant Reformation,
Flagship : its Chaplain — 'Anthologia Graeca' : Epictetus —
Maw Family, 10— ' Index Ecclesiasticus, 1550-1800'— St.
Bees Alumni — Disraeli on Gladstone — Niccolb da Uzzano
—Joseph Clover of Norwich — " Daverdy ": " Pipchin-
esque" — George Powell, the Dramatist— Earl of Beacons-
field : the first Lord Lytton : Martin Tapper, 11— Burrell,
CenteuHrian — Austrian Money coined at the London
Mint — Napoleon and Lord John Russell — "Baptiste Man-
tuani Carmelite" — Hon. Lieut. George Stewart— Edmund
Clerke, Clerk of the Privy Seal, 12— Lakes Pascholler and
Calendari, near Thusis — Neate — Newman — Paten or
Salver ?— Stags and Eglantine : Elizabethan Court Story,
13—" Go to Exeter " : Murder Trial — ' The Newcomes' —
Crow-Fig— Priuientius's ' Psychomachia'— A. B. Wright,
Local Historian and Actor — Egioke Family— Orlingbury
Fami'y, 14 — Graves planted with Flowers — Authors
Waiiteil, 15.
REPLIES :- Sir Walter Raleigh, East Londoner, 15 —
Henry I.: a Gloucester Charter, Itf— War Slang: Regi-
mental Wicknames, 18 — Lines under a Crucifix, 19 —
Dessin's Hotel, Calais, 20 — Sol as a Woman's Name in
England— Richard I. in Captivity— Craggs and Nicholson
Families, 21 — Aristotle on the Greek Temperament —
" Heater-shaped "—Ancient Order of Foresters : Blue Eye
— Merchant Marks and Ancieat Finger-Rings, 22 —Rev.
Sir Robert Peat, 23 -The Pope's Crosier— Icke Family—
" Biajer"— Leap Year: Lady's Offer of Marriage, 24—
Boys born in May— White Horse of Kent: Landscape
White Horses — Hotel Bristol — ' Malbrook ' — Ismenia —
"Hell for leather," 2^— Epitaph to a Slave— Heraldic :
Captor and his Captives' Arms— Le Cateau : Cambrai—
Authors Wanted, 2*5.
NOTES ON BOOKS: — 'Shakespeare's Workmanship'—
' Bibliography of Works by Officers and Men of the Royal
Artillery.'
Booksellers' Catalogues.
OBITUARY :-J. S. Shedlock.
Notices to Correspondents.
THE ROYAL ARMS:
A SUGGESTED CHANGE.
To the number of ' N. & Q.' for October
1917 (12 S. iii. 435), I sent a somewhat
lengthy note on the above subject. This
was preceded by a suggestion made by Mr
Faithfull Begg in The looming Post in July
1917, that the change of the family name
of our Royal House to that of Windsor
might be fittingly marked by substituting
for the reduplicated three lions of Englanc
in the fourth quarter of the royal arms
ome charge representing India and our
Overseas Dominions. He suggested for
hat purpose " a double - headed lion
passant guardant, the heads severally
crowned, one for India and one for the
Overseas Dominions, thus indicating dis-
inct individual sovereignty with absolute
unity."
Mr. Begg's letter drew forth no reply ;
and I, thinking that the daily press was not
quite the vehicle for a discussion upon such
technical subject, subsequently raised
he whole question in ' N. & Q .' as above
stated, and, for the reasons there given,
[ opposed Mr. Begg's suggestion. There
also the matter ended without further dis-
cussion.
At the end of July last, however, Mr.
Faithfull Begg returned to the subject,
and in the same journal ; but instead of a
single charge he now advocated two em-
blems, one — an elephant — representing
India, in the fourth quarter of the royal
arms, and the other, on an inescutcheon,
a sun in splendour, arising from the sea,
the rays to represent the several Dominions
and Crown Colonies." Again, in The Morn-
ing Post this time, I combated the idea, and
for the same reason. This resulted in a
somewhat lengthy discussion. Realizing as
I do that the daily press is of too ephemeral
a character for the discussion of such a
subject, to which no proper index or re-
ference could eventually be found, I thought
that I might again venture to address
readers in ' N. & Q.,' the natural medium,
I think, for heraldic subjects open to public
discussion.
I do not propose to do more now than to
allude very generally to the arguments
against the proposed change which I made
at the above reference, as they are accessible
to all readers, beyond stating that I see no
reason to alter them owing to the discussion
which has since taken place in The Morning
Post ; for I hold still that any representation
of India in the royal arms is unsuitable for
the reasons there given, and of our Over-
seas Dominions unnecessary, on the
ground that they are already sufficiently
and, heraldically, correctly represented
therein.
More interest appears now to be taken in
the suggestion that I made that, if it was
thought advisable by the proper authorities
to make any alteration at all in the royal
arms, the Principality of Wales might be
given the honour of representation in the
fourth quarter in lieu of the present re-
duplicated three English lions ; thus com-
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[12 S. V. JAN., 1919.
Dieting my contention that then every
member of our Overseas Dominions would
be represented in the royal arms as
being the direct descendant, heraldical y
sneaking, of an English, Scottish, Irish,
o? Wefsh man, and as such entitled
to share in our royal arms and fly the
a several letters from Welsh
correspondents, one of whom, a Scottish
F.S.Ar, writes to me as follows :—
'"The attempt to oust the leek as a national
emblem in favour of a doubtful daffodil, the
nlacin^of a daffodil in the watermark on the new
treasury notes, and the idea of quartering the
Colonies and India on the arms while the Welsh
dragon does not appear, is repulsive to the
national pride, and would be resented."
I had suggested in ' N. & Q.' that the red
dragon might be adopted as the national
emblem of Wales, though one cannot shut
one's eves to the fact that it is only the
national badge, and not the arms of the
country This renewed discussion, however,
as to What is the most fitting emblem to
represent Wales in the event of any such
suggested change in the royal arms being
carried into effect, has led me to reconsider
the question how Jar the red dragon would
bo really appropriate for that purpose.
The result of this reconsideration is shown
in a further letter to The Mornmg Post of
Aug. 28 last, an extract from which I would
ask permission to refer to here. After
stating Boutell's opinion (' Hera^ry, His-
torical and Popular,' 1864, p. ,524) that
the arms of Wales might presumably be
held to be represented in the arms o
land, I wrote :—
" Wales seems long ago to have been divided
into North and South, Boutell is again very
instructive on this point. He states (p.! 325)
that the arms of the Principality of Wales
and 4, Gules, a lion passant guardant
Henry VII., bore «eparately for the Principality
Argent, three lions coward m pale, gules. He
adds a note that this last coat is said to have
been assigned specifically to North Wales, while
?he arms of South Wales were the above-men-
tioned quartered lions rampant. These several
bearings are all shown in plate Ix.
" The late Bev. Dr. Woodward, a later but
ecraally reliable authority, at p. 237 of vol. i.
of his ' Heraldrv, British and Foreign (1896),
also gives the before-mentioned quartered lions
Dassant guardant as the -arms borne by Llewyllyn
JSHSffHfc, Prince of North Wales, but states
that -they were still used as the arms of the
Principality of Wales.
" According to these authorities, ancient arms
for Wales — both North and South — certainly
did exist. Bat which of these three distinct
coats should be selected to represent Wales if it
presently be decided that she should be repre-
sented in any new royal arms ? It will be a
curious coincidence if the question should turn
out to be the substitution of Welsh lions for
English ones ! But from which coat ? Surely,
not that of North Wales, as given by Mr. Boutell.
The tail of the British lion may often have been
twisted in days gone by, but I scarcely think
that we can allow that of its Welsh confrere
to remain permanently between its legs (i.e.,
'coward ')."
And I went on to say that, in face of this
evidence of the existence of ancient arms
of the -Principality, I could no longer suggest
that the red dragon should be promoted
from the dignity of a u badge," or a " sup-
porter," to an equal share in the royal arms.
I also mentioned that there would seem
to be another reason why the red dragon
would not, perhaps, be suitable as a com-
ponent part of the royal arms. Since the
general disuse of the numerous personal
badges used by our sovereigns — which dates
from the time of Queen Anne — the royal
badges have been more clearly denned, and
now consist, as settled under the Sign
Manual in 1801, of the rose, the thistle,
and the shamrock, for England, Scotland,
and Ireland respectively, whilst " a dragon,
wings addorsed gules, passant on a mount
vert," represents Wales.
My Welsh correspondent has since sent
me, a propos of his remarks about the leek,
a copy of a very interesting pamphlet upon
the question as to which is the proper
rational emblem for Wales — the leek or the
daffodil — contributed by Mr. A. E. Hughes
to vol. xxvi. of the Cymmrodorion Society's
publications (1916), which society had pub-
lished some ten years before a paper by
Mr. Ivor B. John advocating the claim of
the daffodil to that honour.
Mr. Hughes traces the connexion of the
leek with Wales from the time of the battle
of Crecy (1346), when that flower— which
abounded on the battle-field— was worn by
the Welsh in their head-pieces. This pre-
supposes, of course, a greater antiquity.
' But," says Mr. Hughes (p. 39),
" the Crecy tradition has indeed shown a ten-
dency to cling to Court circles until comparatively
recent times, but cannot, apparently, boast of
such an array of support as the St. David
legend."
He also refers to the connexion of the leek
with St. David's Day (March 1), and cites
evidence that in the time of the Tudor
sovereign Henry VIII. the yeomen of the
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King's guard presented a leek on St. David's
Day to his elder daughter, the Princess
Mary.
This connexion is alluded to by Shake-
speare in ' King Henry V.' in the scene
(Act IV. sc. Vii.) between the king and the
Welshman Fluellen, which would appear
to be the ^arliest reference to the origin of
the custom in English literature. It is
there referred to as "an ancient
custom."*
This pamphlet makes out, I think, a very
strong case why the leek, and not the
daffodil, should be regarded as the national
emblem for Wales. But was not this
question practically concluded in favour
of the leek when His Majesty, a few
years ago, ordained that the leek should
be worn, as we now see it, in the head-
dress of his newly formed Welsh Guards,
in conjunction with the rose, the thistle,
and the shamrock of the other royal regi-
ments of foot-guards ?
Nevertheless, the red dragon, as I stated,
borne as the badge of the old Welch Regi-
ment, is a very popular cognizance in the
public estimation ; and if there should be any
difficulty, heraldically, in deciding upon the
proper set of lions to represent the ancient
arms of Wales, the choice might well be
left to His Majesty as the " Fountain of
Honour." In which case the leek might
well take, I think, the place of the red
dragon, if the latter be promoted to the
rank of arms, in the series above mentioned
of the royal badges, and would, as a plant,
be more consonant to the other national
emblems, the rose, the thistle, and the
shamrock.
It is interesting to note in this connexion
the circumstance, to which Mr. Hughes
refers, that our Tudor sovereigns wore
green and white as their royal colours, the
colours of the leek. I am not aware of
any other suggestion as to the origin of
the Tudor livery colours, for they are
certainly not derived from the tinctures
of their arms, as is usually the case in
these matters.
In conclusion we may all agree with
Hotspur when he says : —
The arms are fair
When the intent of (for) bearing them is just.
<1 Henry IV.,' Act V. sc. ii.
J. S. UDAL, F.S.A.
* See also Michael Drayton's ' Polyolbion,'
published in 1612, and his ' Battle "of Agiacourt,'
published later.
SAMUEL OWEN,
UNCLE OF AUGUST STRINDBERG.
SAMUEL OWEN, who, as his name indicates,
probably had Welsh blood in his veins, was
born at no great distance from the border
between Wales and England. He first saw
the light on May 12, 1774, at Norton-in-
Hales, near Market Drayton, Shropshire.
The boy had practically no schooling, but
was set to look after geese, pigs, and sheep.
Later on he worked as a horse -driver on
the canal, and then, at the age of eighteen,
was apprenticed to a carpenter. Owen soon
displayed considerable mechanical ability,
and attracted attention by his eagerness to
learn. At the cost of great sacrifices, he
acquired knowledge in an evening school
when the day's work was done. After the
lapse of some years he left his native county,
and worked as a joiner at Bolt on and at
Watt's new factory near Birmingham.
Here it was that he became familiar with the
steam - engine — knowledge which was
destined to stand him in good stead. Next
he proceeded to a works at Leeds, whence
he was sent to Stockholm in 1804 to set up
a number of steam-engines which had been
bought from the firm by a prominent
Swede. In 1806 he again visited Stock-
holm for a similar purpose, and this time
remained in Sweden for good. For three
years he was foreman at Bergsund foundry,
and then in 1809 he started at Kungsholm
in Stockholm a foundry and machine-
factory. This works played an extremely
important part in the development of
Swedish industry. Threshing-machines and
many other implements — often the first
of their kind in Sweden — were manufac-
tured by Samuel Owen. The men who had
worked under him were employed by other
firms, and the Kungsholm works thus
became a centre for the dissemination of
knowledge in engineering.
Not le'ss useful was Owen's activity as a
shipbuilder. He is known, and justly, as
the father of the Swedish steamboat in-
dustry. It is worth noting that, some
time before John Ericsson satisfactorily
demonstrated the possibilities of the pro-
peller, Owen had conducted experiments
with a boat called the Witch of Stockholm.
These experiments were made in 1816, and
King Charles XIV., who took a great
interest in Owen's efforts, had a vessel
built specially for further investigations.
The latter were, however, not a success,
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and from that time onwards Owen built
paddle-boats only. The first steamer of
this type constructed by him was finished
in 1817, and in the following year made
voyages on Lake Malar. The steamer soon
became popular in Sweden, and, thanks to
Owen, Sweden was the first European
country after Great Britain to have a
steamship service and" a steamship in-
dustry. In recognition of his services,
Owen was macle a member of the Swedish
Academy of Sciences and of the Academy
of Agriculture.
This great pioneer never became rich.
In fact, as the result of competition and
the great losses he had suffered, Samuel
Owen had to shut down his works and hand
over his property to his creditors. For a
while he carried on a scheme for the drain-
ing of bogs in the province of Sm&land ;
and then from 1847 to 1851 he again acted
as foreman at a foundry. After settling at
•the town of Sodertelje he returned to
Stockholm, and died there on Feb. 15,
1854. His position might have been pre-
carious but for the fact that he had been
granted a pension by the Swedish State for
the pioneer work he had done. Apart from
his merits as an industrial organizer, Samuel
Owen will always be remembered in Sweden
as one of those who helped to introduce
Methodism and the temperance movement
into that country.
One other interesting fact remains to be
mentioned. The wife of Samuel Owen
was the aunt of August Strindberg, one
of the greatest names in nineteenth-
century Swedish literature. In his auto-
biography ' The Son of a Maid ' Strindberg
describes this aunt, who after the death of
her husband took up her abode with Strind-
berg's parents. There sat the old lady,
who had known so many famous people,
and instructed her young nephews in the
art of politeness. With her lace cap, and
surrounded by vestiges of former greatness —
furniture with coverings of an English
pattern, and the bust of Samuel Owen in
the uniform of the Academy of Sciences —
she was a figure to inspire young Strindberg
with respect. Ho tells us also that Mrs.
Owen drank tea after the English custom
and read English books. We may doubtless
attribute to these surroundings, in part at
least, the familiarity with English thought
that Strindberg afterwards displayed — a
familiarity which was to be of far-reaching
importance for his development as an author.
HEBBEBT G. WBIGHT.
University College, Bangor.
SHAKESPEARIANA.
'HAMLET,' I. iv. 36-8 (12 S. iv. 211).
A. As a preliminary to tackling this
passage, admittedly impossible as it stands
in the Second and Third Quartos, it is
expedient to clear the ground by considering
causes of corruption. We will assume that
Shakespeare originally wrote sense, however
difficult for a cursory reader to follow.
(1) The printer, confronted with very bad
handwriting, may have done his best —
j printed exactly what he made of it, with no
intrusion of his own intelligence.
(2) Finding the MS. unintelligible, he
may have " emended " on his own, modestly
or recklessly.
(3) He may have printed from dictation,
| in which case his ear, not his eye, was
I deceived. Many of the proposed emenda-
tions seem to rest on this supposition. Is it
a possible one ?
B. (1) It is commonly accepted that
cale is a mistake for evil. Surely a very odd
mistake ! Evil is a common word, which
it is hard to believe that any printer could
corrupt into a rare or non-existent one.
Yet, on the other hand, at II. ii. 577 the
Quarto did print deale for devil. The
presumed intermediate form e1 il is hardly
worth consideration, in spite of the
Scottish " deil " for devil. Shakespeare
was writing English ; and the notion that
e'il was used for metre's sake is ludicrous.
The 24 lines of this speech contain 8 other
hypermeters. (
(2) The only other tenable suppositions
are (a) that eale has displaced some other
word ; (6) that it is a genuine word itself,
which occurs nowhere else, and whose
meaning is now lost The * N.E.D.' does
not recognize it. As to (a), there is still an
opening for a brilliant conjectural restora-
tion ; but the restorer must satisfy himself
whether the printer was baffled by bad
handwriting or misled by pronunciation.
Is (6) possible ? Note that the word
passed through the Third Quarto un-
challenged. The word is required to mean
some ingredient of a mixture, a modicum of
which has power to spoil or corrupt the
mass ; as, e.g., rennet or some acids, dropped
into milk or cream, would operate.
C. It is also commonly agreed that " of
a dout " is wrong. " Often dout " seems
to me at present the least unsatisfactory.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
IB dout (do out) to be taken as meaning
"put out," "extinguish" ? This is con-
sonant with the idea of liquid in dram. Or
as meaning " eject," " expel" ? One objec-
tion that I have seen to the word often,
viz., that it is too limited, is sufficiently
refuted by oft in 11. 23 and 28.
In a MS. the most likely word to be
misread as dout would be clout. Clout —
patch gives no sense ; but a noun clout is
another form of clot, and the participle
. clouted, of clotted. The ' N.E.D.' admits
under clouted that a verb clout for clot is
conceivable, though no instances are listed.
To revert to a notion indicated above, if
eale could be a lost word for vinegar, or be
a printer's misreading for esil (Esile in the
Folio), we should gain a good and clear
metaphor : "It often happens that a
email portion of vinegar dropped into
a nobler substance (such as milk) curdles
it all."
That the operation of acids on milk was
in Shakespeare's mind at the time is shown
by I. v. 69.
D. "To his own scandal." Three mean-
ings are possible, (a) His own refers to the
subject, dram ; to is used of result, as in
Lamech's " I have slain a man, to his hurt."
The phrase then means "so as to incur
blame for its operation."
(b) His own refers to the object, " the
noble substance"; then to=into: "spoils
the noble substance by turning it into a
corruption of itself." This is better suited
than (a) to the general context and the
scope of the metaphor ; but the construction
with dout is not very happy. It would suit
clout well.
(c) His own means " the depraved man's."
This remoteness of reference, and false con-
cord, is more licentious writing, but
thoroughly Shakespearean in style.
H. K. ST. J. S.
Among the six pages of closely written
notes on this passage in Furness's Variorum
edition is one from the First Series of
' N. & Q.' (v. 377) resembling the emenda-
tion now suggested by PROF. ELLERSHAW.
The writer of the note in 1852 advocated the
reading " o'er a doubt," which he explained
as " doth cast a doubt over all the noble
substance, bring into suspect all the noble
qualities" ; and H. D. in The Athenaeum of
Aug. 18, 1866, suggested " overdout."
Dyce, it appears, agreeing with Lettsom,
considered that " a verb must lurk under
the corruption ' a doubt ' or ' doubt ' with
the signification of turn, pervert, corrupt, or
the like. Shakespeare's meaning evidently
is that a little leaven leavens the whole
lump."
Prof. Elze's reading is quoted in The
Athenaeum of Aug. 11, 1866, pp. 217-18,
viz., " often daub " ; and if these words
were merely altered to " overdaub," the
change would, I think, supply much the
best sense and rhythm to the passage
hitherto forthcoming : —
The dram of eale
Doth all the noble substance overdaub
To his (its) own scandal.
Compare ' King Lear,' IV. i. 51, " Poor
Tom's a-cold. I cannot daub it further,"
which Warburton rendered " disguise
further" ; and 'Richard III.,' III.
v. 30 :—
So smooth he daub'd his vice with show of virtue,
and the following quotation from 1543 in
the ' N.E.D.' : " Perjury cannot escape
unpunished, be it never so secretly handled
and craftily daubed." N. W. HILL.
35 Highbury Place, N.5.
The passage may, I think, be read as
The dram of eale (alloy)
Doth all the noble substance often dout
To his own scan tie.
As thus rendered, the meaning would be
that the dram of alloy doth all the noble
substance often put out, or put down, to
its own diminishment or abasement. The
words " dout " and " scan tie " are to be
found in the ' N.E.D.' and Wright's ' Dialect
Dictionary.' I cannot find any authority
for the word " eale " as meaning alloy, but
it may perhaps be discovered in some old
alchemical work. H. R. D.
SHAKESPEARE : A SURVIVAL or AUGURY. —
At 12 S. iii. 297 I referred to a possible use
by Shakespeare of oral tradition. In Ire-
land there is a widespread belief that it is
unlucky to see one magpie, but lucky to see
two. I believe there are other traditional
facts available concerning the magpie, but
this particular case is interesting as Shake-
speare referred to the bird as a means of
augury as follows : —
Stones have been known to move and trees to
speak ;
Augurs and understood relations have
By magot-pies and choughs and rooks brought
forth
The secret'st man of blood.
' Macbeth,' Ill.'iv. 123-6.
See Furness, * Variorum Shakespeare.*
J. J. MACSWEEXEY.
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NOTES AND QUERIES. [i2s.v.jA*.,i9i9.
BRITISH NAVY, 1587-1919. — At a moment
when every member of the British Empire
is, or should be, proud of hia incomparable
Navy, it may be well to record, for the
historian's future use, the following early
reference. It occurs in a rare poetical
tract believed to survive in two original
exemplars only. The slender volume was
issued to mark Queen Elizabeth's thirty
years' reign of unexampled prosperity, and
just a year before the ** stearnfull " navy
had a chance of showing the Spaniards the
stuff it was made of, despite miserable
supplies of provisions and munitions. I
append the extract from Maurice Kyffin's
' Blessednes of Brytaine,' 1587, in its
archaic spelling, believing that hitherto
it has not seen the light of print in
'N. & Q.':—
We may not here omit in silent forte
Her royall ships strong- wrought for stearnfull
warre,
Whereof all worldly realm es do raise report
Through raging seas discovering regions farre
A scowre-sea navy, all bright & bravely burnisht,
Foorth spowting fire ; faire, huge, and fully
furnisht.
WM. JAGGABD, Lieut.
PRISONERS OF WAR AND THEIR LETTERS
IN 1758. — At the present time, when many
prisoners of war are returning from Ger-
many, the following letter to Lord Barring-
ton, Secretary at War (now preserved at
the Public Record Office under the heading
"War Office, 1/977"), will be read with
interest, as showing the difficulties connected
with letters from and to English prisoners
of war a century and a half ago : —
Broad Street buildings
Bishopgate 16 October 1768.
My Lord
In sending your Lordship the inclosed Letter
[missing] as I received it from France give me
leave to add a few lines with regard to the many
letters I have received from the english prisoners
there, too many for their friends in the Country
to be franked, or to pay the postage from france,
the first packett amounted to £1:9:2
the second to 12 : 6
the situation of prisoners is deserving compassion
in every consideration, & therefore these letters
were sent to the Commissioners of sick and
wounded, & by them directed to the War Office,
though neither would pay the charges, many
have been forwarded by us to the prisoners in
France for which we have paid the postage to
flanders and our Correspondent at Paris Monsieur
de Monmartel has never brought us any further
account, we cannot therefore charge him with
those he is so kind to send us. I should be glad
therefore to receive your Lordships orders in
what manner or to whom the prisoners letters in
France ought to be directed in future. If I can
be in this^or any other shape assistant to my |
unhappy countrymen I shall as willingly con-
tribute to it as to convince your Lordship on all
occasions of the sincere regard with which I have
the honour to be My Lord
Your Lordships
Most obedient & very hum: Servant
THOMAS WALPOLB.
[Endorsed :] Thank Mr. Walpole for his care
of Officers Letters & desire he will continue so to
do. Whatever charge shall arise shall be pay'd
by me on his making up the Ace*, but I am to
pay only those expenses without which the
Prisoners could not receive their letters.
It is pleasant, even after this lapse of
time, to know that the monetary obstacle
did not prove insurmountable.
E. H. FAIRBROTHER.
SIR THOMAS BROWNE : TOM BROWN. — In
the preface to Dr. Greenhill's ' Golden
Treasury ' edition of the * Religio Medici ' is
a detail which requires, I think, some further
explanation. In giving an account, on
p. ix, of the way in which translations of the
' Religio Medici ' were received on the
Continent, he observes that the book " was
by some persons much misunderstood, and
gave occasion to great and most undeserved
misrepresentation of the author's religious
opinions." An instance of this is appended
at the foot of the page : —
" The following Note (which deserves preserva-
tion on account of its monstrous ignorance and
absurdity) was copied by the present Editor
from one of the copies in the National Library
at Paris : ' Th. Brown, un des plus declarez
ennemis de toute Religion, et que 1'Univers.
d' Oxford avoit autrefois chasse pour ses de-
bauches, avant sa mort 6crit Une lettre pleine
de sentimens de penitence : elle est imprim^e
dans un Recueil postume de ses dialogues.' "
Dr. Greenhill apparently leaves the reader
to suppose that this ludicrously false account
is the invention of malicious bigotry.
What has really happened is that the
reported facts of one man's life have been
transferred to another of a similar name.
It was Thomas Brown (1663-1704) who is
said, when an undergraduate at Christ
Church, to have been threatened with
expulsion by Dean Fell. I have not ex-
amined the posthumous ' Collection of all
the Dialogues of Mr. Thomas Brown,' 1704,
but feel safe in accepting from so sound an
ai thority as Mr. A. H. Bullen the statement,
in the ' D.N.B.,' that to this edition
" was appended a letter (the genuineness of
which was attested by Thomas Wotton, curate of
St Lawrence Jewry) purporting to have been
written by Brown on his death-bod. In this
letter Brown, after expressing regret for having
written anything that would be likely to have a
pernicious influence, protests against being
responsible for ' lampoons, trips, London Spies,
in which he had no hand."
1JS. V. JA.V., 1919.J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Clearly, then, some blundering Frenchman
confounded the famous Norwich physician
with the unlucky Tom Brown " of Facetious
Memory," whose religion, if we may appro
priate the words of a Cambridge humorist,
was " of that joyous bright Greek type,
which saw no harm in anything in particular,
' and didn't stick at it, when it did."
Dr. Greenhill adds that "the Note was
said to have been written by Clement,
formerly Garde de la Bibl. du Hoi, who
died 1700-1710." I cannot find that
Nicolas Clement ever held the office of
" Garde de la Bibliotheque." According
to the ' Biographie Universelle,' he was sous-
bibliothecaire and died in 1712. The
* Npuvelle Biographie Gene" rale ' styles him
'* bibliothecaire en second," and assigns
1716 as the date of his death.
EDWABD BENSLY.
ST. TRUNNION : HIS IDENTITY. — Ball in
his ' History of Barton-upon-Humber,' 1856
p. 68', says : —
" In the old enclosures to the west of the town
WHS a spring of clear water called St. Trunnion's
well, and in a field in the West Acridge a very
old thorn tree called St. Trunnion's tree, which
was standing in 1726 ; but who St. Trunnion
was is not known, the question having been
frequently discussed in Notes and Queries."
Possibly " St. Ninian " was the original
form. In his will, dated April 1, 1528,
George Portyngton of Barton-on-Humber
left " To the reparation off saynt Nynyan
chaple xvjd " — ' Lincoln Wills ' (Lincoln
Record Soc., vol. 10), ii. 73.
It is well known that the last letter of the
word " saint " was often attracted to a
saint's name, as in Tedan for St. Aidan,
Tantony for St. Antony, Tooley and Tulius
for St. Olaf, and Tobin for St. Aubin. In
like manner we might have " Tninian " for
St. Ninian ; and as ru would be more easily
pronounced after the T than ra, the forms
" Trinian," " Trunian," and " Trunnion "
may quite possibly have been developed
after St. Ninian was forgotten.
Winterton, Lines. 3. T. F.
P.S. — Since the above was in type I have
found that my suggestion has been antici-
pated. See Plummer's 'Bede,' ii. 129.
" DINKUM SHOP." — Wandering in the pur-
lieus of Westminster the other day, I came
across a small shop stocked principally with
military accoutrements, and over the door
was the heading " Harry's Dinkum Shop."
Being curious to ascertain the precise sig-
nification of this, to me, unknown word,
I stepped in and inquired. The proprietress
informed me that it was an Australian
word signifying the right shop to go to for
anything. I see that the question of its
meaning was discussed at 10 S. iii. 168 end
217, when one or two correspondents cited
the * E.D.D.,' where " dinkum " is defined
to mean " work, due share of work."
WlLLOTJGHBY MAYCOCK.
THE JUDGES' LEVEL. — There is a familiar
legal anecdote of the judge who was seen
drinking a pot of porter before going into
court, and who explained the indulgence by
saying, " I must drink myself down to the
level of my colleagues." It is usually told
of Mr. Justice Maule, but sometimes also
of other contemporary judges.
The story is, however, of much earlier
date. In a commonplace-book of Charles II. 's
time (Harleian MS. 6395) we are told
(Fragment No. 337) that Sir John Millicent
excused his potations on the plea that he
must " drink himself down to the capacity
of the Bench." Sir John Millicent was only
a county magistrate, whom James I.
knighted at Royston. So the anecdote^was
not a slander against any of the king's
courts at Westminster, but only against
a provincial Quarter Sessions. CYRIL.
RTJTTER FAMILY NAME. — I have found
that it is believed (and even by some who
bear the name) that " Rutter " is German
in origin. In the seventeenth century the
word " rutter " was used to designate a
trooper, and it is customary to derive it
from the Low Dutch ruiter. This is erro-
neous : the identification partly depends
upon the vowel u, which in ruiter is merely
orthographical. The Dutch word rimes
pretty closely with English " loiter," and
could not therefore yield rutter.
I would seek the origin of " Rutter " in
the French routier, and the reduction of
ti to t similarly occurs ;in " gutter " from
gouttiere.
Rutter, moreover, is a much older family
name than the supposed identification
allows, and the history of the word " gutter "
will help us to trace its descent and origin.
The French gouttiere is derived from Lat.
gutta, a drop. In Old French that became
gote, goute. Now as "gutter" derives
Tom O.F. gote through gouttiere, so may
Rutter derive from an O.F. rote through
*routtiere, or its equivalent. The O.F. rote
las two distinct meanings : viz., 1, a road ;
2, a viol or fiddle. If we select the first,
then " Rutter "= routier, a trooper. But
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 8. V. JAN., 1919,
if we prefer the second meaning, " Rutter "
would postulate *rotarius, a Low Latin form
which would signify a player upon the rote ;
cp. Chaucer — " Wei coude he singe and
plaien on a rote " (' C. T.,' Prol., 1. 237).
The correption of the stem vowel of
*rotarius can be easily paralleled : cp. O.F.
moton, F. mouton, Engl. "mutton"; O.F.
boton, F. bouton, Engl. " button." Similarly
the Lat. butyrum became O.E. butere,
Engl. " butter."
Now the ancient Cheshire family of
Rutter derives its origin from Peter le
Roter de Thornton, lord of Kingsley and
Norley, and a descendant of Ranulf de
Meschines, Earl of Chester temp. Henry I.
This phrase " le Roter " is undoubtedly the
forerunner of " Rutter," and it supports
my hypothesis inasmuch as it points to
rotarius > roter, and signifies an official
player on the rote or violin — in this case,
at the court of the Earl Palatine of Chester.
ALFBED ANSCOMBE.
MABKSHALL AND THE FULLER FAMILY.
(See 10 S. ix. 144 ; 12 S. iii. 53 ; iv. 234, 263).
— The following facts may be of additional
interest. In Misc. Gen. et Her., Fourth
Series, vol. iv. pp. 30-5, 1 published a frulwer
or ffuller pedigree ; and at p. 66 I added
notes from which it appears beyond doubt
that, at a very remote date, the Fullers were
lords of the manor of Markeshall. To save
space I confine my extracts to a summary
from the notes only, in which the generations
are numbered : —
(14) Bic'us de fulwer de Markeshall in com'
Essex = Magdalene filse Ric'i Danbye.
(16) Thomas fulwer de Markeshall = Anne une
file et here Wilhelmi Bersett, miles.
(16) Thomas fulwer de Markshall = Agnes file et
here Henrici Ashewell in Com' Cantabrigii.
(17) Thomas fulwer de Nettes[hall] in Shepey =
Erminelde une file et heredu' Benet de Kent.
Members of this branch were at this time
also lords of the manor of Neatshall and of
the manor of Tempsford, co. Bedford, as
proved by the following extracts from the
Heralds' College.
Grant of crest to Ralph ffulwar of London,
gent., son of Thomas ffulwar, Esq., lord of
Netes (who was son of Thomas fTulwar, Esq.,
lord of Netes, by dau. and heir of. Benet
of Kent, Esq.), and great -grandsoii of Thomas
ffulwar of Markeshall, co. Essex, Esq.,
Dec. 20, 3 Elizabeth.
Grant of crest to John Fullwer, lord of the
manor of Tempsford, co. Bedford, Esq., and
judge in the Guildhall of the Court of one
of the Sheriffs of London, son of Thomas
ffulwer, lord of Netes in the Isle of Sheppey,
co. Kent, Esq. (by Margaret his wife,
daughter and heir of Nicholas Clarell of
Edgecott, co. Northampton, Esq.), and
grandson of Thomas ffulwar, lord of Markes
Hall in the county of Essex, Esq., Dec. 20,
3 Elizabeth.
Grant of crest to James ffulwarr of London,
Merchant of the Staple and Merchant
Adventurer (brother of John Fulwer, lord
of the manor of Tempsford), Dec. 20, 3 Eliza-
beth.
There is an earlier grant of arms, July 7,
1551, to William ffulwar of Holewell, co.
Hertford, brother of John ffulwer, lord of
Tempsford. But I am travelling beyond
Markshall, and will conclude.
J. F. FULLEB, F.S.A.
Dublin.
ELSINOBE. — This euphonious place-name
— enshrined in the thrilling lines of Camp-
bell's ' Battle of the Baltic ' :—
Let us think of them that sleep,
Full many a fathom deep,
By thy wild and stormy steep,
Elsinore I
and in ' Hamlet ' — does not betray its true
origin in its English guise, which approaches
closely to the French form, Elseneur. The
town, a seaport of some importance, called
in Danish Helsingoer, stands at the entrance
to the Sound, separated by a few miles
from the Swedish port of Helsingborg on the
mainland opposite. Helsingland is another
Swedish place in the same category of
nomenclature, to which also belongs Hel-
singfors in Finland, the ancient sept of the
Helsings having given their tribal name to
the series. The different suffixes signify
respectively : oer, isles ; borg, castle or burg ;
land, country, and fors, force, current, or
rushing stream. As Elsinore is situated
on the shore of the island of Zealand, it
may have received its name from having
been built on land that has since been filled
in or reclaimed, as in the case of Burnt-
island, Fifeshire. ' N. W. HILL.
EMPSON E. MIDDLETON. — The Times on
Nov. 21, 1917, gave extracts from the will
and codicils of Mr. Empson Edward Middle-
ton, author of ' Ah, Happy England ! *
mentioned at 12 S. iii. 30. From these it
appeared that the testator claimed large
sums from the British Government and
other quarters for inventions he had put
forward. Mr. Middleton's published works
included metrical translations from Virgil,
books on yachting and seamanship, and
others directed against received views on.
natural philosophy, &c. W. B. H.
s. v. JAN., wig.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
9
ma.
WE must request correspondents desiring in-
formation on family matters of only private interest
to affix their names and addresses to their queries,
in order that answers may be sent to them direct.
" QUEBELLE D'ALLEMAND." — In The
Quarterly Review for October, 1874, there is
a very interesting article on ' The Republic
of Venice, its Rise, Decline, and Fall.'
Among quotations from other authorities
there is one from P. Daru's ' Histoire de la
Republique de Venise ' (Paris, 1821), the
passage being translated into English. This
author, in describing the innumerable devices
to which the Ten of Venice used to have
recourse for getting rid of such persons as
were obnoxious to their policy or con-
venience, relates how in 1618 many hundreds
of victims were tortured and done to death
on charges of complicity in the alleged
conspiracy with Spain. Even informers
and witnesses against those accused, after
being openly rewarded by the Council for
their services, were either secretly executed
or disposed of by hired assassins. Thus,
says Daru,
" another witness, to whom a pension of
50 ducats per month and a gratification of
300 ducats had been assigned, was ordered to
repair to Candia, where, immediately on his
arrival, he was killed in a quarrel forced on
him — querelle d'Allemand as it is termed." —
Daru, liv. xxxi.
The term querelle d'Allemand is un-
familiar to me. In the sense of a " forced
quarrel " how exactly it applies to the a
of the Kaiser and his ministers in 1
But what is its origin ?
HEBBEBT MAXWELL.
Monreith.
[Hatzfeld and Darmesteter's ' Dictionnaire
General,' 2 vols., s.v. Allemand, merely says :
" LOG. prov. Querelle d'Allemand, sans sujet."
But Littre is much fuller (1863, vol. i.) : " Alle-
mand (a-le-man), s.m. Ce mot est employ^
dans quelque? phrases proverbial^s : Une
querelle d'allemand, c'est-4-dire une querelle
sans sujet. . . .Quant a allemand, dans la locution
querelle d'allemand, il s'agit bien, sans doate,
des Allerrands. Pourtant on en a donn6 une
Etymologic diffe'rente : on 6crit alors alleman, et
Ton cite le dicton : Gare la queue des Alleman "
Ce dicton a appartenu au Dauphin^, dont la
region montagneuse entre le Drac et 1' Is ere
6tait occupee par une puissante et nombreuse
famille de seigneurs portant tous le nom
d'Alleman. Malheur au voisin qui provoquail
un membre de cette famille ! il se les attiraii
tous sur les bras. De 1'ardeur avec laquelle
cette famille vengeait la plus petite injure est
aussi venu, dit-on, le proverbe : Faire une
querelle d'allemand ; et Oudin (' Curiosit6s
ranc.,' p. 4fi2) ecrit, en raison de cette origine:
Querelle d'alleman. Mais je remarque qu'a la
fin du XVIe siecle, Carloix dit querelle d'Alle-
maigne, ce qui montre que, des ce temps-la, on
regardait, dans la locution, allemand comme le
nom de peuple."]
SCOTTISH CHIEFS. — Will some one inform
:ne if the chiefs of the Scottish clans receive
official recognition as such, and if so, what
orm this takes ? Is the description
MacGregor " of MacGregor," MacLeod " of
MacLeod," MacLachlan " of MacLachlan,"
&c., used as implying chief ship ?
INVEBSLANEY.
OATH OF FEALTY : EDWABD III. — On
pp. 295-7 of the ' Histoire des Inaugurations
des Rois ' (Paris, 1776) there is a graphic
account of the ceremonies attendant upon
the taking of the oath of fealty for the
Duchy of Guienne by Edward III. in
Amiens Cathedral in 1329. King Edward,
we are informed, upon approaching the
throne of his suzerain, was instructed by the
Great Chamberlain to remove his crown,
sword, and spurs, as it was contrary to the
very essence of the act he was about to
perform for the oath to be administered
to him still vested in these outward signs
of his independent sovereignty and of his
knighthood. These details are apparently
taken from some contemporary or nearly
contemporary description of the scene, and
I should be glad to know what this source
may be. References to similar scenes con-
taining the same details in contemporary
chronicles or romances will be welcomed.
CHARLES BEARD.
COL. A. R. MACDONELL'S DUEL WITH
NOBMAN MACLEOD. — My great-grandfather
Col. Alexander Ranaldson Macdonell of.
Glengarry (d. 1828) fought a fatal duel with
a young subaltern, Norman Macleod, at
Fort William, and was subsequently tried
for murder at Inverness. I should like to
know both the dates of -the duel and the
trial and where to find any particulars of
either, as I have been unable so far to find
here the information for which I have been
seeking. We had a copy of Mackenzie's
history of the Macdonalds at home when
I was a boy, but, speaking from memory,
I do not think that any particulars were
given in it. I remember meeting, when
quite a boy, an old lady — a Mrs. Mildmay,
nee Drummond of Megginch — who told me
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 B. V. JAN., 1919.
that she was in Inverness at the time of the
trial, so I fancy that it took place about the
beginning of the nineteenth century. I should
be glad to obtain a copy of Mackenzie's
work. R. M. H.
Melbourne.
PENRHYN DEVIL ' AS A KNOCKEB. —
I recently came across a small brass knocker
for a bedroom door, the design of which
puzzles me a good deal. It is obviously
itself a quite modern piece of work, but its
appearance suggests that it is a reproduc-
tion of some object of legendary interest.
It consists of a grotesque crouching human
figure with distorted head and cloven hoofs ;
the head hangs very much sideways, and is
weighed down by a thick chain passing
round the neck and down the front of the
body ; at the end of the chain is a human
skull, which the figure holds in both hands
and apparently gloats over. It bears on the
base, in partially obliterated lettering, the
words " Penrhyn Devil." As the knocker
is quite new, this faintness of lettering
must, I think, be an attempt to correspond
with an original. I have failed to find any
legend connected with Penrhyn bearing on
the matter, and shall feel obliged if any of
your readers can help me.
C. F. DOYLE.
HOMES OF FOULSHOTLAW : JANET DICK-
SON. — I should be very grateful for any
information about the above, who are
mentioned in the Historical Manuscripts
Commission Report on the MSS. of Col.
David Milne Home of Wedderburn Castle.
No. 619 is a " Disposition by James Broun -
field of Quhythous, to Mr. John Home of
Foulshotlaw and Janet Dickson his spouse
(for whom Abraham Home in Kennet-
sydeheid is cautioner) of the third part,"
of certain lands of Hassington and the croft
called Clerkcroft. Dated at Hassington,
April 11, 1634. Alexander and George,
sons of Robert Dicksone of Stainfald, are
among witnesses. Foulshotlaw is in the
parish of Greenlaw. W. K. BENSON.
KINGHOBN OF FiBEBUBNMiLL. — Margaret
Kinghorn (or Nisbet), wife of James King-
horn, farmer in " Fireburnmilne," wTas
served heir general to her uncle Patric
Home of^ Foulshotlaw, Aug. 20, 1741
(see * Service of Heirs in, Scotland').
Fireburnmill is near Coldstream. I should
be glad of further information about these
Kinghorns. W. K. BENSON.
The Corner House, Chobham Road,
*....--- Woking, Surrey.
THE CONSTANT REFOBMATION, FLAGSHIP :
ITS CHAPLAIN. — Sir Wm. Laird Clowes in his
' History of the Royal Navy,' vol. ii. p. IS 4,
eays that the Constant Reformation, Prince
Rupert's flagship, sank off the Azores in a
gale in September, 1651, Prince Rupert and
a few others being saved by a small beat
from the Honest Seaman ; and he quotes
Warburton's * History of the Cavaliers,'
vol. iii. p. 333 : " At 9 P.M. the ship, burning
two firepikes to give us notice of their
departure, took leave of the world." Eva
Scott in * Rupert, Prince Palatine,' says
(p. 248) that the chaplain of the Constant
Reformation refused to leave the sinking
ship, called all hands to Holy Communion,
and sank with them.
Can anybody give the name of the
chaplain ? In searching the Muster Books
at the P. R. O. for my * List of Chaplains of
the Royal Navy, 1626-1903,' I did not find it.
The Constant Reformation was one of
the eleven ships carried over to the Prince
of Wales by Admiral Batten in June, 1648,
when he joined the Royalists in Holland.
A. G. KEALY.
Bedford.
' ANTHOLOGIA GB^CA ' : EPICTETUS. —
(a) Among nearly 100 epigrams translated
from the * Anthologia Grseca ' "by Dr.
Johnson, and published in vol. i. of his
'Works ' fed. A. Murphy, London, 1806),
is one of which I cannot find the original : —
Cogitat aut loquitur nil vir, nil cogitat uxor ;
Felici thalamo non, puto, rixa strepit.
(b) There are also the following lines,
said to be translated from Epictetus : —
Me, rex deorum, tuque due, necessitas,
Quo lege vestra vita me feret mea.
Sequar libenter, sin reluctari velim,
Fiam scelestus, nee tamen minus sequar.
Can any one kindly direct me to the original
Greek of these ?
If any one would like to have the refer-
ences to the 'A. G.' of the rest of Dr.
Johnson's versions, I shall be pleased to
give them. H. K. ST. J. S.
Ashfield, Bedford.
MAW FAMILY. — In the Herald's Visitation
:or Suffolk there is a pedigree in which it
is stated that Symon Maw of Rendlesham
^father of Leonard Maw, Bishop of Bath
and Wells in 1621) was the son of John
Maw of Epworth, gent. This John Maw
would probably be living at Epworth about
the year 1500. I should be glad of any
notes concerning this family or any of its
tranches. In the Yorks Inquisitions the
12 S. V. JAN., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
11
name of Mawe is found as early as 1271
I shall be very grateful if any reader of
* N. & Q.' can inform me if the name Maw
or Mawe occurs in early Lincolnshire
records, as, if not, it is probable that the
Maws of Epworth are of Yorkshire ex-
traction. GERALD W. MAW, M.R.C.S.
30 Kempston Road, Bedford.
'INDEX ECCLESIASTICUS, 1550-1800.' —
The late Joseph Foster left x a collection of
MSS. for an ' Index Ecclesiasticus ' from
about 1550 to 1800. Can any reader eay
if this is still extant, and where it may be
seen ? J. W. F.
ST. BEES ALUMNI.— Can any reader
say whether any work has been published
dealing with the students and graduates of
St. Bees College, Cumberland ?
J. W. F.
DISRAELI ON GLADSTONE. — In which of
Disraeli's works occurs the description oi
Gladstone as " a good man— in the worst
sense of the word " ? J. W. F.
NiccoL6 DA UZZANO.— Can any reader
tell me anything about Niccolo da Uzzano,
whose bust by Donatello is in the National
Museum at Florence ? BRAD STOW.
[He was a Florentine statesman of the Guelph
u-ty, and waged war against Visconti, Duke of
, from 1423 to 1428. He died in 1432.]
JOSEPH CLOVER OF NORWICH. — " Joseph
Clover, Esq., late barrack-'master at Nor-
wich " (1756-1824), was also a promoter of
the first " Swedenborgian " congregation in
that city. His son, another Joseph (1779-
1853), was a professional artist, and ex-
hibited at the Royal Academy from 1804
to 1836. Were they, respectively, son and
grandson to the " Joseph Clover, 1725-1811,
farrier, blacksmith in Norwich," noticed
in 'D.N.B.,' vol. xi. p. 131 ?
CHARLES HICHAM.
169 Grove Lane, S.E.5.
Milan
: " PIPCHINESQUE." — In
' The Little Man, and other Satires,' by
John Galsworthy, p. 256, we read : " garbed,
if I remember, in a daverdy brown over-
coat." This word is not in the ' N.E.D.'
or the « Eng. Dialect Diet.' There is a
West-Country verb, to daver, to fade or
wither, and the past participle, daver' d, is
quoted. Does " daverdy " mean faded ?
On . 257 of the same work Mr. Gals-
worthy uses the phrase " matched his
pipchinesque little old face." I suppose
this refers to the original illustration in
' Dombey and Son.'£; It is a great tribute
to the descriptive powers of Dickens end
H. K. Browne to assume that modern
readers will understand the meaning of this
word. The puzzle is that the word is ured
to describe a delightfully amiable, childlike
old man, with a
" face that riveted attention. Thin, cherry-red,
and wind-dried as old wood, it had a special sort
of brightness, with its spikes and waves of silvery
hair, and blue eyes that sermed to shine."
Mrs. Pipchin is described by her creator as
" a marvellous ill-favoured, ill-conditioned old
lady, of a stooping figure, with a mottled face, like
bad marble, a hook nose, and a hard grey eye,
that looked as if it might have been hammered
at on an anvil without sustaining any injury."
How can these descriptions be reconciled ?
J. J. FREEMAK.
Shepperton, S.O.
GEORGE POWELL, THE DRAMATIST. — I have
recently obtained a copy of the ' Reliquiae
Wottonianae,' 4th ed., 8vo, 1685, on the
fly-leaf of which is written " E Libris
Georgii Powell, 26th Decemb., 1692." I am
desirous of learning whether there a-re
extant any specimens of the handwriting
of George Powell, the author of * The
Treacherous Brothers ' (4to, 1690) and
' Bonduca ' (4to, 1696), with which I might
compare my fly-leaf inscription.
C. W. B. H.
EARL OF BEACONSFIEID : TEE FIRST LORD
LYTTON : MARTIN TUPPER. — In ' A Bock-
man's Letters,' 1913, Sir W. Robertson
Nicoll has much about Mark Rutherford
(William Hale White), and quotes the follow-
ing from his fugitive writings : —
" Lord Lytton. . . .drew a wonderful horoscope
of his friend Benjamin Disraeli, in which by some
strange freak of fate nearly every one of the
predictions was fulfilled."
" Lord Beaconsfield, charmed, I suppose, by
the mystery of the line, ' A fool is bent upon a
twig, but wise men dread a bandit,' pensioned its
author, Mr. Martin Tupper."
I should like to ask, as to the first, if
anything is known of the horoscope, its
showings and their fulfilment. As to the
second, was not the author of the line given
he late Sir W- S. Gilbert ? He certainly
included it in his * Bab Ballad ' of ' Ferdi-
nando and Elvira ; or, The Gentle Pieman ' i
Mister Close expressed a wish that he could only
jet amgh to me ;
And Mister Martin Tapper sent the following
reply to me :
' A fool is bent upon a twig, but wise men dread
a bandit,"—
Which I know was very clever, but I didn't
understand it.
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[12 S.V.JAN., 1919
I always understood that Gilbert's rather
famous line was written in derision of
Tapper's method and style, and should
think it highly improbable that it was a
mere transcript from * Proverbial Philo-
sophy.' But some one may, even at the
present day, be able to say how this is.
W. B. H.
BURRELL, CENTENARIAN. — The Whitehall
Evening Post, No. 2446 (Tuesday, Jan. 1, to
Thursday, Jan. 3, 1733/4), has the following
announcement : " On Wednesday last died
at Sangate [sic] Castle William Burrell,
aged 107 and some months." I shall be
glad of information. . R. J. FYNMORE.
AUSTRIAN MONEY COINED AT THE LONDON
MINT. — It is said that at the time of our
occupation of *Abyssinia we found that
Austrian Maria Theresa dollars were the
principal current coin among the natives,
and, for the purposes of the expedition, the
British Government sought to purchase from
Austria a number of these coins. As they
had become obsolete, the Dual Monarchy
lent us the original die, and by its use the
required sum of silver was struck at the
London Mint. Was this done under any
special Act of Parliament or Order in Council,
and what was the total value of coinage so
issued ? J. LANDFEAR LUCAS.
NAPOLEON AND LORD JOHN RUSSELL. —
Mr. G. W. E. Russell, in his recent book on
* Prime Ministers and Some Others,' refers
to the fact of his uncle, Lord John Russell,
" conversing with Napoleon in his seclusion
at Elba." What was the occasion and object
of this interview ?
J. LANDFEAR LUCAS.
Glendora, Hindhead, Surrey
" BAPTISTE MANTUANI CARMELITE." —
I have come across a copy of this poetical
work, a crown octavo book lacking the
title-page. The only clue is the following
memorandum by a former owner : —
" This book was printed in the second year of
the reign of Henry VIII., and formed part of
the library of that monarch, which is evident
from the royal arms on the front cover, which
in that form were only borne by King Henry VII.
and VIII."
There is a further note to the effect that
" The autograph on the back of this leaf is
that of Dr. R. Farmer, author of a cele-
brated work on Miracles, Demons, &c.,
to whom the book formerly belonged."
The volume for its venerable age has a
comparatively fresh appearance ; it is in !
strong calf, gilt-edged, with clasped opening,
gilded ornamental back, and distinctive
lettering. At the bottom of the cover back
is " Paris, 1507."
Can any one supply identifying par-
ticulars and title-page of this presumed early
Parisian work ? I should feel thankful for
any details. ANEURIN WILLIAMS.
Menai View, North Road, Carnarvon.
[The editions of the works of Battista Spag-
nuoli, called Mantuanus, fill many columns in
the B.M. Catalogue. Our correspondent's book
would seem to be one of the two following, which
are the only octavo Paris editions of 1507
recorded. The Catalogue entry of the first is : —
" Begin. DC calamitatibus liber i. Baa-
tistse. [sic] Mant. carmelite' Theologi . . . .[end] In
laudem Joannis Baptistse pro natali Carmen.
Co'tra Poetas impudice loque'tes Canren.
Impressi rursus in e'dibus ascensianis : [Paris,!
1607. 8vo. 1070. d. 4."
This is supplemented by the note : " Sig.
t iiii-B and aa ii. These fragments and the
1 Adolesce'tia,' of the same date, apparently
belong to the same collection."
The other entry runs : —
" Adolesce'tia seu Bucolica Baptistse Mantuani
carmelitee Theologi in decem e'glogas divisa et
Epigra'mata ad Falcone', &c. Ex e'dibus
Ascensianis : [Paris,] 1507. 8vo. 1070. d. 3,"
with the note " Sig. AAA-HHH."
Two early renderings in English are the
following : " The Eglogs turned into English
Verse. . . .by George Turbervile, Gent. London,
1567," and "The Bucolicks Translated out
of Latine into English by Tho: Harvey, Gent.
London, 1656."
The above indications will, we hope, enable
MR. WILLIAMS to identify his volume.]
HON. LIEUT. GEORGE STEWART. — In
Macclesfield churchyard is a gravestone
which bears the following inscription : —
" Sacred to the memory of the Hon. Lieut.
George Stewart, 88th Beg., eldest son of Francis,
the eighth Earl of Moray. Born at Drumsceuch,
Edinburgh, Feby. 2nd, 1771 ; died in this parish,
Nov. 19th, 1821, aged 50 years. Rest in Peace."
To whom does this refer ? Burke's
* Peerage ' for 1916 gives the name of the
8th Earl of Moray as James, but that for
1871 gives it as Francis. Francis, the 9th
Earl, appears to have had twin sons born
on Feb. 2, 1771, namely, Francis, 10th Earl,
and Archibald ; but no mention is made of a
son George. CHARLES DRURY.
12 Banmoor Clifie Boad, Sheffield.
EDMUND CLERKE, CLERK or THE PRIVY
SEAL. — Information wanted concern'ng
the whereabouts and consents of the will
of Edmund Clerke, Clerk of the Privy Seal,
who died c. 1587. The will is not to be
found either in Somerset House or at
Winchester. A. B. MILNER.
128. V. JAN., 1919.]
NOTES AND QQERIES.
13
LAKES PASCHOLLER AND CALENDARI,
NEAR THTJSIS. — The * Swiss Tourist '
London, 1816) at p. 145 says : —
" From Thusis the traveller should go to the
village of Flerda, a league distant, situated at the
foot of the mountains, and from there ascepd
Mount Heinsils, on one of the summits of which
is the Lake of Pascholler. This lake is small,
but very deep ; on the approach of storms it
boils in the same manner as Lake Calendari."
Then, dealing with the Via Mala (at p. 146),
the same authority states : —
" Two leagues from Ander is Lake Calendari
which boils furiously on the approach of storms 5
it is less than Lake Pascholler, and the ebullition
which takes place is still stronger."
Mount Heinsils is presumably Heinzen-
'berg. Where is Flerda, and where are the
two lakes ? JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.
NEATE. — I should be glad of any 'in-
formation about the following members of
this family : —
(1) Charleston of Richard Neat e of Lon-
don, who graduated M.A. at Cambridge in
1769, and died March 5, 1782.
(2) Charles, who was admitted to West-
minster School in 1780.
(3) Richard, son of Richard Neate of Hor-
bury, Yorkshire, who gradiated LL.B. at
Cambridge in 1759, and died Jan. 25, 1817.
(4) Richard, who was admitted to West-
minster School in 1774.
(5) William, admitted to the same school
in 1745, aged 8. G. F. R. B.
NEWMAN. — Can correspondents give me
any information about the following New-
mans who were educated at Westminster
Sohool ?
(1) John, who graduated B.A. at Cam-
bridge from St. John's Coll. in 1754, and
was ordained in 1756.
(2) Thomas, admitted in 1718, aged 14.
(3) Thomas, admitted in 1742, aged 11.
(4) William, admitted in 1715, aged 13,
(5) William, admitted in 1718, aged 12.
G. F. R. B.
PATEN OR SALVER ? — Were patens origin-
ally designed for domestic as well as for
church purposes ? Is there any instance
of a paten that was once a piece of 'Com-
munion plate having been diverted from
that sacred use and added to a collection of
household silver ? The paten in which
I am specially interested is 13 inches in
diameter, has gadroon . border, London
mark, date 1690. It weighs about 31 oz.
avoirdupois, and has a coat of arms in the
centre. This piece of plate has until lately
been supposed by its possessor to be a
salver, but its exact counterpart (with a
different coat of arms) was on show recently
in a loan exhibition and was described in
the catalogue as a paten. I shall be grateful
for information.
(Miss) E. CRTJWYS SHABLAND.
26 Waldeck Street, Reading.
STAGS AND EGLANTINE : ELIZABETHAN
COURT STORY. — Can any reader suggest an
explanation of the fact that two families of
Elizabethan times had for crests stags
which bore in their mouths, or wore as a
chaplet around their necks, sprigs of honey-
suckle or eglantine ? Is there any tradition
as to the origin of the " eglantine " so
borne on the crests of the families of
Hardwick and of Suckling of Norfolk,
as is suggested by the following, from
the pen of a member of the Society of
Antiquaries ?
" On a mount vert a stag current, gorged
with a chaplet of roses, all proper. This crest
belonged to the father of the famous Bess of
Hardwick, ancestress of the Dukes of Devon-
shire. At Bard wick there is a remarkable
table, made upon the occasion of her fourth
marriage — that to the Earl of Shrewsbury —
and ornate with armorial bearings, representa-
tions of musical instruments, &c., inlaid in
marqueterie over the entire surface of the table
top. The date of the marriage was 1668, and
the stag of Hardwick in profusion surrounds a
central escutcheon bearing the verse : —
The Redolent Smle
Of ^Eglentyne
We Stagges exavlt
To the Deveyne,
which modernized should be : —
The redolent smell of eglantine
We stags exalt to the divine.
" The crest of the Sucklings is a stag current
or, in the mouth a sprig of honeysuckle proper.
Originally the stag was trippant, and the
honeysuckle was absent ; but the story is that
Queen Elizabeth, when entertained at 'Norwich
in 1578 by that town, conferred upon Alderman
Robert Suckling -the augmentation as a rebus
on his name Suckling — colloquially the hone>-
suckle or woodbine.
" There is the same idea, although quite
unjustifiable, of a rebus connecting the name
with the honeysuckle in the motto, namely,
' Mora trahit periculum ' (' Delay causes
danger '). The motto is peculiar to the
Sucklings, and would seem to have been chosen
for the play on the similarity of the words
periculum, ' danger,' and periclymenum, honey-
suckle or woodbine.
" In each case we have an Elizabethan
origin. In the one the Queen herself conferred
bhe augmentation upon the stag ; in the other
the verse calling attention to it was the central
ornament of the state table used at the marriage
of her High Steward. In each case a stag is
adorned with one of the sweetest-smelling of our
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[128. V. JAN., 1919.
rdld flowers, and the verse lays stress on the
4 i'edolent smell.' Shakespeare, in * Cymbeline,'
(IV. ii. 223-4), follows with
The leaf of eglantine, whom not to slander,
Out-sweetened not thy breath ;
and in the couplet (' Midsummer Night's
Dream,' II. i. 251-2)
Quite over-canopied with luscious woodbine,
With sweet musk-roses, and with eglantine,
he brings the eglantine and woodbine or honey-
suckle together, if, indeed, eglantine did not
itself combine both sweetbriar and woodbine
within the poetic meaning. Evidently the idea
was that the stag should ' exalt,' or make an
offering of ' sweet savour ' to the divine. That
side of the story is patent, but what was the
story ? Why was» the stag, to say nothing of
the ' stag current,' in each case, to make . the
offering of the sweet-smelling herb ? I think
that it was a story of the Elizabethan Court,
and, not improbably, a poetic compliment to
herself."
OLD EAST ANGLIAN.
"Go TO EXETER " : MURDER TRIAL.—
Can any one help me to trace a story
which I read in The Guardian some years
ago in connexion with a murder trial ?
In this the words " Go to Exeter " are the
key ; and the sheltering in a church porch
fat midnight ?) during a thunderstorm,
when the church clock struck thirteen, was
another leading feature, t These points
would stick in the memory of any one who
had read the story. It appeared in the
obituary notice of the gentleman who heard
the voice in the night bidding him "go to
Exeter," and whose evidence was the means
of procuring the release of the person
accused of the murder.
Some old subscriber to The Guardian
who has kept his back numbers may be
able to verify it. Variants of the story
appeared in The Penny Post and in The
Treasury, but it is The Guardian reference
which I want if possible.
J. B. OLDROYD.
Brantingham Vicarage, Brough, E. Yorks.
[The story of the sentinel at Windsor, whose
life was saved through his hearing the bell of St.
Paul's Cathedral strike thirteen, dates back to
The Public Advertiser of Jane 22, 1770. See 5 S.
ix. 87, 114, 138, 156, 178, 198.]
'THE NEWCOMES.' — In chap. viii. of
' The Newcomes ' Thackeray has an ex-
quisite account of Mrs. Hobson Newcome
at home. He satirizes all " lions " in-
discriminately, and yet with a loving hand.
Has any one written a key of the
whole chapter, identifying Dr. McGuffog,
Prof. Bodgers, Count Poski, &c. ? ' The
Newcomes ' was published in 1854-5, and
its ^dramatic date was about 1833, i.e.,
Thackeray seems to take in about 20 years.
Miss Pinnifer must be a good-humoured
caricature of his bewildering friend Charlotte
Bronte; and Miss Rudge might be Miss
Margaret Fuller, or more probably Mrs.
Harriot Beecher Stowe. W. A. HIRST.
CROW-FIG. — This old name for nux
vomica does not occur under ' Crow ' in the
' N. E. D.,' but I find it in a quotation from
Dr. Robert James (Dr. Johnson's friend)
under ' Nux Vomica.' I met with it
recently in an article on the jubilee of the
Pharmacy Act, 1868, in The Chemist and
Druggist, quoted from a Poison Bill intro-
duced into parliament in 1757. The name
is doubtless due to the fact that, as Gerard
says, nux vomica was use*d as a poison for
crows. I should like to know where it
first appears and when it went out of UFO.
Any other information bearing upon the
subject will also be welcome. C. C. B.
PRUDENTIUS'S * PSYCHOMACHIA.' — Can
any of your readers inform me if the
' Psychomachia ' of Prudentius has been
translated into English verse ? If so, by
whom ? This Latin poem is thought to bo
the foundation of the plots of all " con-
flict themes " in our old morality plays.
WILLIAM TAYLOR.
ANDREW B. WRIGHT, LOCAL HISTORIAN
AND ACTOR. — Information is sought re-
garding the parentage, career, and death of
Andrew B. Wright, who in 1823 published a
useful * History of Hexham.' He is tradi-
tionally said to have been a tragedian and
the son of George Wright, also an actor.
J. C. HODGSON.
Alnwiok.
EGIOKE FAMILY OF EGIOKE, co. WOR-
CESTER.— I ehould be grateful if any one
could tell me whether the -Egioke family is
extinct in the male line. There is a monu-
ment in St. Margaret's Church, Westminster,
with a Latin inscription to Francis Egioke
of Egioke in the county of Worcester, who
died in 1662. LEONARD C. PRICE.
Essex Lodge, Ewell, Surrey.
ORLINGBURY FAMILY. — Information is de-
sired as to the whereabouts of court rolls,
&c., of manors in the hundreds of Ham-
fordshoe, Higham Ferrars, Nobottle Grove,
Orlingbury, and Spelhoe, Nbrthants. I shall
also be glad to hear of stray wills, and to
receive particulars of persons of the surname
and its variants Orlyngbere, Orliber, Orlebar,
between 1347 and 1560, especially the
descendants of Sir Robert de Orlingbury,
12 S. V. JAN., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
15
c. 1420, and his connexion, if any, with
William de Orlyiigbere of Norton by Daven-
try, c. 1485, together with the parentage of
George Orlyngbere of Eaton, who died 1553.
J. H. BLOOM.
No. 601, 329 High Holbora, W.O.I.
GRAVES PLANTED WITH FLO WEBS. — When
did this custom come into vogue in Eng-
land ? Mrs. Piozzi, on the tour in Wales
with Dr. Johnson, wrote in her diary for
Aug. 19, 1774: "In this churchyard
[Bangor Cathedral] I first saw a grave
stuck with various flowers, a large bunch of
rosemary in the middle " ; indicating that
nothing of a more permanent nature than
the strewing of flowers on the surface, to
which Shakespeare and others allude, was
familiar until the approach of the nineteenth
century. W. B. H.
.AUTHOR OF QUOTATION WANTED. —
Death, at the bedside standing,
Bade Love and Rope depart,
But Faith, the All-Commanding,
Seized Death and held his dart.
Death urged, " Give me the mother,
If I leave you the child."
" Nay, nay, dear friend and brother,
I must have both," Faith smiled.
D. MACPlIAIL.
SIR WALTER RALEIGH,
EAST LONDONER.
(12 S. iv. 296.)
IN the remarkable Raleigh Tercentenary
celebrations in London, when " the Shep-
herd of the Ocea,n " at length secured " a
place in the sun," there was nobody among
the crowd of eloquent eulogists to recall
that Sir Walter Raleigh had good claims
to be counted as an East Londoner ; that it
was in Old Stepney that he was tutored for
the great task of his adventurous life by his
half-brother, who was a resident in what
was even then " the nursery of English
seamen " ; and that men, arms, and muni-
tioned vessels were there assembled for
some of his exploits, and notably for the
last fatal expedition to find the source of
the gold of -El Dorado for the greedy,
impecunious, and ruseful Scot who had
succeeded to the throne of the Virgin Queen.
When Sir Walter Raleigh sailed " from
Limehouse " on his third voyage to Guiana,
in "a pinnace named the Watte," he knew
that landing-place on the Thames very
well ; it was, in fact, only an industrial
annexe of Old Ratcliff until the time of
Queen Anne, when it was made into a
parish. From 1573 to 1578 Sir Humphrey
Gilbert, the famous Elizabethan soldier,
sailor, discoverer, and colonizer — the half-
brother of Walter Raleigh — lived " in retire-
ment at Limehouse," for some reason not
wholly explicable by any known records.
That "retirement" (with practical banish-
ment from Court) was certainly not absolute,
for Gilbert relates that he lost the greater
part of the fortune he got with his wife in
a smelting and coppersmith's venture in
Limehouse, along with, among others,
Thomas Smith, who thought he had found
a way of turning iron into copper. During
the winter of 1574, when Gilbert was asked
by a visiting friend " how he spent his time
in this loitering vacation from martial
stratagems," -the host showed " sundry
profitable and very commendable exercises
which he had perfected with his pen."
Now, one of these was Gilbert's * Discourse
for a New Passage to Cataia,' which was
written partly in support of his petition of
November, 1566, for privileges from Queen
Elizabeth concerning the discovery of a
North- West Passage to Cathay. It took
ten years to get this "perfected " MS. into
print, and it seems to have been the chief
incentive to the Queen's letter to the
Muscovy Company in 1574, calling upon
that body either to dispatch another ex-
pedition in this direction or to cede their
privileges to other adventurers. The bearer
of this letter was Martin Frobisher, to
whom a licence was granted by the Com-
pany, Feb. 3, 1575, together with divers
gentlemen associated with him. Out of
this grew Frobisher' s three voyages in
search of a North-West Passage, which the
local patriots of Old Stepney justly regard
as East London enterprises, marshalled,
manned, and stored in the old Port of London.
When Sir Humphrey Gilbert got his charter
from the Queen in " June, 1578, it was not
carried out as an East London enterprise,
although, of course, Stepney seamen asso-
ciates sailed under Gilbert's pennon ; and
with him were Walter Raleigh, his half-
brother, and several West-Country folk.
And now, at long last, after the Raleigh
tamasha5 has ended, it is conceded by the
principal literary patron of the assembly
that when Sir Walter Raleigh had schemes
for the English empire of the sea, had
projected a discovery of the North- West
Passage, and dreamed of the occupation, in
the Northern parts of America, of terri-
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 S. V. JAN., 19J9
tories for Queen Elizabeth, " his lodging
was at Limehouse." There "he sat among
his maps and instruments," and his dwelling
" was at this time a resort of voyagers and
venturers ; Frobisher and Davis were part-
ners in his researches, and Raleigh, we may
be sure, the aptest of learners." There is a
local point of significance in the leading
journal's reminder that the royal charter
of 1578 granted to Sir Humphrey Gilbert,
Raleigh's half-brother (under whom Raleigh
served against the Spaniards in the Low
Countries in 1577, and with whom he sailed
in the first and less unfortunate expedition
to Newfoundland), descended as by in-
heritance to the younger man whom Gilbert
helped to form. On March 25, 1584 — a
pregnant date in the history of the New
World and the Old — Walter Raleigh, now
in the first stages of his greatness and high
in favour with Queen Elizabeth, obtained
a new charter of discovery and colonization
in place of the old. He was to send many
more expeditions to Virginia before his
fortunes fell, to lose all, and still to hope.
Like the Scottish hero of a later day, he
deemed that
He either fears his fate too much,
Or his deserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch
To gain or lose it all.
For Sir Walter Raleigh, whatever his faults
(and, under present-day conventions and
environments, they were doubtless many),
was a patriot who believed, as, indeed,
he wrote, " that man not worthy to live
at all who for fear of danger or death
ehunneth his country's service or his own
honour, since Death is inevitable and the
fame of Virtue immortal."
There are few who will dissent from Sir
Sidney Lee's considered judgment that
Raleigh, as an explorer no less than in his
numberless other spheres of activity, was the
victim of great ideas and great speculations
beyond his power to bring to fruition : —
" Judged, however, by the influence of his
work on the future, his endeavours in the fields
of exploration and colonization towered above
the rest of his achievement, and more rightly
than any other Englishman may he be hailed as
the prophet and pioneer of the British Empire."
And so, sooner or later, we shall eee Sir Walter
Raleigh high on that Roll of Honour in
enduring bronze (or gun-metal ?) which the
London County Council design to upraise
at Ratcliff Cross ere King Edward's
Memorial Park at Shadwell — close by —
comes into being, at the instance of our
Sailor King. Me.
In his interesting note Me. mentions that
Raleigh stayed at Blackwall. He also
quotes the words of "a Poplar antiquary,
writing nearly seventy years ago," with
reference to an ancient house near Globe
Stairs and opposite the Artichoke Tavern,
which, according to tradition, " was suc-
cessively occupied by Sebastian Cabot and
Sir Walter." The antiquary's description
of the building, which follows, quite agrees
with the appearance of a picturesque old
tenement of which I possess a view taken in
1873. It is described on the back as ' Sir
Walter Raleigh's House, Blackwall.' I will
add that it has two gables of wooden board-
ing, and two lower stories of lath and plaster.
Each projecting story is supported by
massive carved brackets, those above having
grotesque heads on them. I should think
it was a good deal later than the time of
Raleigh. Can any one give me the precise
address of this house, which in all probability
was destroyed before 1880 ?
PHILIP NORMAN.
HENRY I. : A GLOUCESTER CHARTER.
(12 S. iv. 149, 223, 279.)
MAY I express my regret that for a con-
siderable period * N. & Q.' has been a sealed
volume to me ? Hence I was unaware of
MB. SWYNNERTON'S note on the (to me
familiar) Henry I. (1127) charter, which
I copied myself two or three years back,
and was enabled to date to the above year,
to which I think it certainly belongs, for the
reason that its more perfect duplicate occurs
in the Cambridge MS. of William of Malmes-
bury's * Gesta Regum,' dated " ab Incarna-
tione Domini M°COXX°VIIO " (apud Win-
toniam).
The editor ( W. H. Hart) of the * Hist, et
Cart. S. Petri Glouc. ' has treated the
charter even more badly than MR. SWYN-
NERTON describes, for, in addition to
omitting the highly important witnesses,
he has miswritten " Willelmus " for Gisle-
bertus (de Mineriis*), and printed "affuerunt"
for affiuerunt as to Adam de Port and
William Fitz Otho — a ruinous change (cf. also
" monachos " for monachis). So much for
j the date ; but is there any reason why the
i modern spelling of Mynors should be
adopted for magnates who certainly never
* Les Minieres, Department of Eure in Nor-
; mandy.
12 S. V. JAX., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
17
so wrote their name ? Surely, Miners is
preferable.
With regard to Henry's charter addressed
to Bishop Sampson of Worcester, quoted from
the same cartulary (i. 235), there is another
important variety of this, too, in the Cam-
bridge MS. Instead of ending with the
clause " et concedo eis escambium de horto
monachorum in quo turris mea sedet, sicut
Walterus Vicecomes de Gloucestria eis
liboravit," it has " teste Girmundo abbate
W7inchelcumbce et Rogerio de Gloecestra
et Hugone Parvo."
Now this important change, I hold, at
once affects the date of this charter like-
wise ; for here we have Roger (doubtless
dying) signing his gift near Falaise ( 1 1 06) in
the presence of two important witnesses :
the Abbot of Winchcombe (1095-1122),
and Hugh Little, one of his superior Norman
tenants in Gloucestershire — about whom I
could say more.
Further, the MS. cited gives the following
interesting passage : —
" Is, in obsidione Fallesii telo arcubalistee
grayiter vulneratus in capite, donavit ecclcsise
S. Petri de Gloecestra manerium quod appellatur
Culna S. Andrew,* et in hoc assensum et con-
cessionem Regis, qui etatim ad ee videndum
venerat, impetravit, ita quod manum ipsius cum
earn hujus rei gratia deoscularetur, frontis
•anguine cruentavit."
These authorities were duly cited by Bishop
Stubbs in his notes to William of Malmes-
bury's ' Gesta Regum Anglorum,' ii. 521-2
(Rolls Series). I could adduce others still,
but for respect to the space of ' N. & Q.'
This, therefore, places the King's charter
to the Bishop of Worcester in the year 1106
and ( ? ) the month of September. What, then,
are we to make of the statement in the
' Gloucester Cartulary,' i. 69, that the grant
was made while the abbacy was vacant at
Serlo's death (i.e., 1104) ? The latter is
clearly a monkish mistake.
I shall now produce the " Confirmatio "
by the King of Roger's gift of the manor
of Coin with its highly important array of
witnesses — by which I venture to date it
1106-7, probably at Gloucester : —
Henricup, dux Anglie, Sampsoni episcopo
Wigorniensi et Waltero Vicecomiti de Glocestra,
&c., salutem.
Notum sit vobis quod dedi et concessi
manerium de Culna ecclesiae S. Petri de Glocestra
ad communem victum monachorum sicut
Bogerius de Glocestra eis dedit et concessit et
sicut melius tenuit pro anima mea et uxoris mese
et pro animabus antecessorum meorum et concedo
«is escambium orti monachorum in quo turris
* Called Coin Rogers to-day.
mea sedet sicut Walterus Vicecomes de Glocestra
eis liberavit.
Signum Be + gis.
„ Matildis Regine +
„ Wald(rici) Cancellar' + (made Bishop
of Laon, Nov. 1106, killed Ap. 25,
1112).
„ Episcopi Dunelmensis+(t.e., B. Flam-
bard).
,, Boberti Episcopi Lincol'4-
„ Bicardi de Beveis-f (i.e., B. de Beviefis,
ancestor of the Courtneys).
„ Da+vid.
„ Boberti Comitis de Mellent-f
Mr. Round has shown (' Feudal England,'
481) that the last known appearance of
Waldric the Chancellor occurs in a Rouen
charter of November, 1106. The above,
unfortunately, is not from the original deed
itself. It is sufficient, however, to bring
Roger's decease and the King's "Con-
firmatio " very close together.
Roger de Gloucester was brother to
Herbert (who predeceased him), and cousin
to Walter the Sheriff. His transactions in-
clude one with Serlo (d. 1104), the Abbot of
St. Peter's (Glos.), by which he took over
certain land in Westbury-on-Severn in fee
(but without tithe of water or woodland)
from the monks, and gave in exchange (in
alms) Sandhurst and Atteley (i.e., Hatherley),
and land belonging to Ulfketil.
With the claim of De Miners, with the
Editor's leave, I will deal under a fresh
heading. ST. CLAIB BADDELEY.
The full text of the notification ( * Glouces-
ter Cartulary,' Rolls Ser., No. CXLII.), printed
by MB. SWYNNERTON at iv. 280, shows, I
think, that he has misunderstood this docu-
ment. The Cartulary heading — " Culna
Rogerii " — is misleading, as it applies only
to the first part ; the second part, begin-
ning " et concedo," is the confirmation of a
different transaction. Thus the King con-
firms : —
1. The grant of Coin by Roger de Glou-
cester.
2. The grant (of land unspecified) by
Walter de Gloucester in exchange for the
monks' garden in which the King's tower
stands.
Escambium does not refer to Culna, and
the clause " sicut Walterus viceconies de
Gloucestria eis liberavit " refers not to
horto, but to escambium, the wording implying
that Walter made the exchange as sheriff,
not from his own property.
This conclusion sent me to the ' Gloucester
Cartulary ' to discover what it was that the
monks received in exchange for their garden.
18
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. v. JAN., 1919.
It is recorded in the List of Donations !
(i. 59) : —
De Ablode et Paygrave.
Henricus rex senior dedit Deo et Sancto Petro
Gloucestriae et monachis ejusdem loci Ablode, et
gravam de Bertona quse vocatur Paygrave in
es cambium pro placea ubi nunc turris stat Glou-
cestrise, ubi quondam fuit hortus monachorum
anno regni regis Henrici ejusdem nono, tempore
domni Petri abbatis.
Tho printed text puts a comma after abbatis,
and continues, " de sex sellionibus retro
ouriam de Ablode," which is unintelligible.
I have no doubt that this clause was intended
as a heading for the remainder of the
paragraph, which records the gift of " sex
selliones terras retro curiam de Ablode " by
Ralf de Wylintone and his wife..
Although the eccentric punctuation
appears to connect the date with the
existence of the garden, we may assume that
it was the grant in exchange therefor which
took place in 9 Hen. I. ; yet the editor
(i. 318) assigns the wide date-limits 1100-
1 1 12 to the corresponding writ (No. ccxci. ): —
De Grava qu«e dicitur Peygrave.
Henricus, rex Anglise [sic], Sampsoni [Wigorni-
ensi] episcopo, et Waltero vicecomiti de Glouces-
tria, et baronibus Francis et Anglis de Glouces-
tresyra, salutem.
Prsecipio quod monachi de Gloucestria habeant
gravam in bertona mea cum terra quam dedi eis
pro escambio terrse ubi turris mea sedet, et volo
lit bene et honorifice teneant.
The succeeding charter (ccxcn.) is wrongly
headed " Confirmatio ejusdem." It has
nothing to do with the King's grant, being a
confirmation by Robert, Earl of Gloucester,
of a grant by Richard fitz Neel, and is a
duplicate of No. DLXXIL, confirming DLXXI.
(ii. 89).
To revert to the List of Donations : the
grant of Coin is recorded thus (i. 69) : —
De Culna Bogeri.
Anno Domini millesimo centesimo quinto,
Bogerus de Gloucestria miles, apud Waleyson
graviter vulneratus, dedit monachis Gloucestrise
pro anima sua in montanis Culnam quse vocatur
Culna Bogeri, rege Henrico confirmante, abbatia
vacante per mortem Serlonis abbatis.
What is the meaning of "in montanis " ?
Can montanis be a wrong extension of some
part of morior ?
In the List of Donors we have consecutive
entries (i. 123) : —
" Bogerus de Gloucestria dedit Culnam Bogeri.
" Walterus vicecomes liberavit nobis Abbelode
per prseceptum Uenrici regis pro excambi*."
It is quite clear that Roger's gift of Coin
had nothing to do with the monks' garden.
CD the other hand, if the grant of Ablode
and Paygrave Wood were made in 1109,
MB. SWYNNEBTON is very likely right in
holding that No. CXLII. passed at the same
time as the charter to the canons of St. Oswald
in Round's ' Ancient Charters ' (No. 3). (It
is worth noting that the canons also had, or
claimed, rights in Ablode, a dispute between
the two houses about the tithes of " Abbe-
lode," and other matters, being settled in
1218— i. 25.)
How untrustworthy is the Cartulary text,
as printed, may be seen by comparing the
following charter, No. CXLIII., with the text
printed by MB. SWYNNEBTON from the
original charter (12 S. iv. 149). In the
Cartulary this valuable record is rendered
unintelligible by reading " Willelmus " in-
stead of Gislebertus where the original has
" q'd Gis't' versus eos & Abbate' suum
clamabat." AngV is extended as " Anglise "
instead of Anglorum ; monachis is given as
" monachos " ; and there are minor errors.
G. H. WHITE.
23 Weighton Boad, Anerley, S.B.
WAB SLANG : REGIMENTAL NICKNAMES
(12 S. iv. 271, 306, 333).— As explained in a
recently published book entitled ' Behind
the Barrage,' by Mr. George Goodchild,
" scrounge " appears to be used in a much
broader sense than that conveyed by my
friend MB. SPABKE'S explanation (iv. 307).
Mr. Goodchild, in the book referred to,
deals with the life and work of a gunner,
and as an officer in "a heavy battery he had
p-mple opportunity of acquiring first-hand
knowledge. His book is one of the most
realistic specimens of war literature that it
has been my pleasure to read. Mr. Good-
child, on p. 94, writing of the various duties
performed by the signalling party of which
he was in charge, says : —
" In the category of ' odd jobs * came ' scroung-
ing.' ' Scrounging ' is eloquent armyese — it
covers pilfering, commandeering, ' pinching,*
and many other familiar terms. You may
scrounge for rations, kit, pay, or leave. Signallers
are experts at it, and they usually scrounge for
wire. Scrounging for wire is legitimized by the
War Office, and called by the gentler name of
' salving.' We were informed it was our duty to
economize in the cost of the war by salving the
wire that was disconnected by shell fire, or which
appeared to be serving no iiseful purpose. We
had first to ' tap it ' on the line with a field tele-
phone, and if we got no response the wire was
ours.... We made 'scrounging' a daily affair,
and not infrequently ' scrounged ' wire that was
not disconnected and belonged to other batteries."
Further on he writes: "They [the men]
scrounged round for a nice shell-hole, rigged
a bit of tarpaulin over it, and called it
' billets.' "
12 S. V. JAN., 1919.]
KOTES AND QUERIES.
19
Eyewash. — I have not seen this word
noted in your columns. It is apparently
used to denote anything that is exaggerated
or calculated to deceive or mislead. Any
portion of an official document, or a list of
regulations, which is not of vital importance,
is designated " eyewash." So also are
complimentary remarks, either true or
otherwise. H. TAPLEY-SOPEB.
Exeter City Library.
In sending another list of war words may
I be permitted to point out that the spelling
of the words in this and the first list is that
given by the Tommies in France, and not
mine ? I hope that SIB RICHABD TEMPLE
will continue to give derivations of any
Indian words in this list, and that other
correspondents will add to it and explain
any obscure words therein. Though some
of the words may not be new, as " clink "
and "chink," they have lain in obscurity,
and have only come into common usage
during the War and where soldiers do con-
gregate.
Toothpick, persuader, toasting-fork. — Bayonet.
Ticklers. — Improvised bombs made in " Tick-
ler's " jam tins.
Aeroplanes. — Buses.
Archies. — Anti-aircraft guna.
Funk-hole. — Dug-out or shelter.
Emma Gee. — Machine gun, from the initia
letters M.Q-. as pronounced by the signallers
Jam on it. — Similar to " cushy job " ; something
nice and e#sy.
On the wire. — When a man is wanted am
cannot be found.
For the jumps. — To go for trial for
offence.
No bonne. — No good ; useless.
Windy. — Frightened ; nervous.
Drum -up. — " I've some sugar. If you get tea
and hot water we'll have a ' drum -up. "
Put your skates on. — Get clear, to evade
duty.
Crawling, creeping, squaring. — Buying favours
M oosh . — Guard-room .
Chewing the fat. — Fault-finding.
Bumble, v. — To disturb or annoy.
Taped oil. — Take the measure of a man.
Knock the end in. — Spoil the whole thing.
Spruce, v. — To deceive.
Sweating. — Getting warm, probably from the
game of hide-and-seek. Getting excited.
Shot up the back. — Put hors de combat by some
saliy. Found out.
Put dots on one. — To core or tire.
Put a jerk in it. — Smarten your actions.
Minnie. — A shell from a Mineniverfer.
Diggers . — Au stralian s .
A man working a searchlight is said to be on
the " pictures " or " movies " ; one risking a
great deal, or playing a losing hazard, is
" chancing his mit."
ARCHIBALD SPABKE.
any
A few evenings ago I was walking to the
railway station with an Australian soldier
on leave from France. In the semi- darkness
we met two Tommies, one of whom saluted
my companion with " Good-night, Digger."
My friend said that Digger was the name he
had always heard in France applied to
Australians, and that " Bill Jim," used in
some Australian papers, was quite un-
familiar to him. J. R. TKOBNE.
As some old regimental nicknames are
printed by MB. SPABKE at the second
reference, it is worth while to draw attention
to 9 S. v. 104, 161, 224, 263, 377, 438. For
mottoes see ibid., p. 389.
Nicknames and mottoes are given in
John S. Farmer's ' Regimental Records
of .the British Army,' 1901 ; and in 'Regi-
mental Nicknames and Traditions of the
British Army,' published by Gale & P olden,
3rd ed., 1891 ; 4th ed., 1915.
Care should, I think, be taken to dis-
tinguish the battalions in linked-battalion-
regiments. Notably nicknames derived
from regimental numbers are not applicable
to both battalions ; e.g., " The Three Tens "
(30th Regiment) is not applicable to " The
Lily- Whites " (59th Regiment), though these
two regiments are the 1st and 2nd Battalions
of the East Lancashire Regiment. Although
the Territorial titles were given as long ago-
as 1881, I believe that many of the regi-
ments or battalions cling to-day, un-
officially, to. their old numbers.
ROBEBT PlEBPOINT.
LINES UNDEB A CBUCIFIX (12 S. iv. 297). —
There seems to be little doubt, from the
respective passages transcribed from Weever
and Fynes Moryson by PBOF.
that the two seventeenth-century writers
had, consciously or unconsciously, a common
original. The date of that (obviously pre-
Reformation) is not determined. There is a.
rare old book in Scots orthography — pub-
lished in English seventeen years earlier
"han Moryson' s and thirty -one years earlier
:han Weever' s — which it will not be un-
interesting to cite here for the sake of some
verses which it contains, in the nature of a
doctrinal descant.
The. stout little volume in question
444 pp. plus 20) is entitled
A | Facile Traictise | Contenand first ane
nfallible reul | to discern e trewfrom fals religion
| Nixt, a declaration of the Nature, Num. | beiy
Vertew & effects of the Sacraments | togider with.
ertaine Prayers of deuotion. | Dedicat to hi*
overain | Prince the Kings Maiestie | of Scotland*
20
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 S. V. JAN., 1910.
King James the Saxt. | Be Maister Jhone Hamil-
ton Doctor in | Theologie. | At Louvan | Im-
printed be Laurence Kellam | Anno Dom. MDC."
This is the priest and scholar John Hamilton,
^active in the cause of Queen Mary Stuart
and in the opposition to Henry of Navarre,
who lived the hunted life usual to recusants,
and died in prison in 1609. Following the
last section of the book, entitled * A Cata-
logue of Heresies,' we come upon a poem
•" Composit be L.F.S.E.B.C.P.," and there-
fore not Hamilton's own. It is headed : —
" The Trew Use of the Crucifix : with a detection
of lies (1) That the crucifix and vther Images
of Christs [sic] and of his Saincts and Angels are
Idols ; (2) That the Catholiks adoris thame for
their God."
Below is a woodcut of a Calvary, with this
tag : " A comfortable standard to Catholiks
And feirful to Sathan and his supposts."
lastly, the dialect lyric : —
In passing be the Crucifix
Adore upon thy knie
Nocht it, bot Christ whome it presents,
With all humilitie :
For God is he whome it raports ;
No irrage God can be !
Adore what thow beholdis in it :
Tak it for memorie.
-Caluin dou say that we transgres
Ane of the ten commands
Whilk bearis we suld adore na thing
Wrocht be the grauers hands.
We do confirme what he dois say,
And knawis better nor he
What difference is of God aboue
From clay, from stone or trie.
•So \^ha to Idols dois Compair
The image of our lord
That he ane fals God is ? as thay
Thairto be maist accord.
. For nather stok nor stone wil we
[T]o worschep nor adore,
Bot him whais image they present
Wha sits in heauenlie gloire.
Than when }e sie the crucifix
Giue prayse to Christ (I say,
3e guid and constant catholiks
In hymnes and cantiques ay),
Wha be his figure on the croce
Presents unto }our eies
His woundis, his forme, his passion,
His bluidie sacrifice.
So it ends, though there is more of it
•than is here given. At the bottom are the
«tring of difficult initials already quoted,
and a charming colophon : "Excuse, guid
reider, the erreurs committit in ye preting :
Considder the difficultie to prent our langage
in a strage countrey. God Keip $ow ! "
No one can reasonably doubt that the
-maker of this rough serviceable rhyme,
^possibly a fellow - exile of Hamilton's at
Xouvain, was familiar with the old rood-
screen inscriptions cited by PROF. BENSLY.
The eight lines with which the Scotsman
leads off are to all intents and purposes a
close translation of
Effigiem Christi dum transis semper honora,
Non tamen effigiem, sed quern designat adora :
Nam Deus est quod imago docet, sed non Deus
ipsa ;
Hanc videas, et mente colas quod cernis in ilia.
The vernacular muse had a hard time of it,
A.D. 1600, with Kellam' s printers, and the
author himself leaves something to be
desired in the way of suavity ; but the
apologetic is of the best.
L. I. GUINEY.
DESSIN'S HOTEL, CALAIS (12 S. iv. 187,
248). — The following extracts from old
guide-books, &c., give some information : —
" The most superb inn is the hotel formerly the
celebrated Dessin's, Rue Boyale. The apart-
ments are elegant and the accommodation every
thing that can be wished ; but the charge is
proportionable, and will not suit every pocket." —
' A New Picture of Paris,' by Edward Planta,
16th ed., London, 1827, p. 24, s.v. Calais Inns.
(Apparently " formerly " refers to Dessin,
the original innkeeper.)
" At Dessin's Hotel, is still shown a room in
which it is said Sterne wrote part of his ' Senti-
mental Journey.' Over the door is the following
inscription, ' This is Sterne's Boom.' " — Ibid.,
p. 30.
" The inns of Calais are excellent. The H6tel
Dessin is mentioned by Sterne in his ' Sentimental
Journey.' King George IV slept here on his way
to Hanover, in 1823, as did the Duke of Northum-
berland, when proceeding to Bheims as the
representative of his Britannic Majesty at the
Coronation of King Charles X. It is the finest
house in Calais, and presents every comfort that
travellers can desire, including baths, a theatre,
music, and a fine garden." — ' Galignani's Tra-
veller's Guide through France,' 9th ed., Paris,
1828, p. 631.-
" The far-famed inn, Dessejns, still exists, and
with very superior accommodations [sic], for
which the guests must pay, but the charges are
not unreasonable. It is situated in the Bue
Boyale, where, in imitation of Dover, a small
foot-path of flat stones is placed, to the astonish-
ment of all France, such a phenomenon having
scarcely elsewhere obtruded itself." — ' The New
Picture of Paris,' by Peter nerve", Esq., and M.
Galignani, 4th ed., London, 1829, p. 25.
In ' Bradshaw's. .. .Continental Railway
Guide' of November, 1864, p. 562,
among the advertisements is one of the
" Hotel Dessein. — L. Dessein, the Proprietor,
has the honour to inform his numerous patrons,
and travellers in general, that since the 1st of
: January, 1861, his establishment has been trans-
' f erred to the Hotel Quillac, which has been entirely
newly done-up, and which has taken the name of
' Hotel Dessein.' The premises of the old Hotel
12 8. V. JAN., 191 9. J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
21
Dessein having been purchased by the town o
Calais, it ceases to be an hotel for travellers."
In the guide part of the book, p. 256, it ii
said that the
' ' Hotel Dessein is now transferred to the premises
of the old Hotel Quillac the latter ceases to be
an hotel, and the former takes its place as the
Hotel Dessein."
Tliis no doubt means that Quillac as th
name was changed into Dessein.
In Murray's ' Handbook for France,
17th ed., 1886, part i. p. 3, is the following : —
" Hotel Dessin (formerly Quillac's), uncom-
fortable— the Hotel Dessin, where Sterne and
Sir Walter Scott lodged in Rue Boyale, is con-
verted into Baths, a Museum, and Schools."
Quillacq's [£tc], as well as Dessin' s, appears
in the ' Traveller's Guide through France,'
quoted above.
Whether the old house of Dessin's Hotel,
eold to the town in or about 1860, still stands
I do not know, nor do I know whether any
hotel in Calais is now named Dessein or
Dessin. The name does not appear in the
advertisements of the Calais hotels in
V Indicateur des Chemins de Fer (Chaix) of
Sept. 21-27, 1913.
ROBERT PIEBPOINT.
The replies to my query give all the
information one could wish for. It is,
however, curious that none of your corre-
spondents give the name of the house, of
which I was ignorant. I find that it is
mentioned by William Hickey, who writes : —
" On the 12th of October [1776] we reached
Calais, putting up at the far-famed Lion d'Argent,
of which hotel the voluble Monsieur Dessein was
the proprietor." — ' Memoirs of William Hickey,'
edited by Alfred Spencer, ii. 04 (Hurst & Blackett,
For the spelling of the name 'as " Dessein "
Sterne is, of course, responsible.
T. F. D.
SOL AS A WOMAN'S NAME IN ENGLAND
(12 S. iv. 133).— W. J. B. writes: " One
instance is believed to be an abbess, or
daughter of some pre-Norman, Saxon, or
British queen in Somerset or thereabouts."
This is not a very definite clue, but the
geographical indication makes it, perhaps,
worth suggesting that the instance is the
British goddess Sul or Sulis, after whom
the Roman city of Bath was named Aquas
Sulis. The Romans identified her with
Minerva, and her name i« found in several
dedicatory inscriptions at Bath. An error
which affected some manuscripts of the
* Antonine Itinerary ' gave rise to the mis-
spelling " Aquse Solis/' See the Pauly-
Wissowa ' Realencyclopadie ' under ' Aquae,r
No. 31, and the ' Corpus Inscriptionum
Latinarum,' vol. vii., edited by Hiibnerr
pp. 24 sqq. It may be added that a goddess
Sol (2c3A) is mentioned on a Greek in-
scription from the Bosphorus, of 152 A.D.
An attempt was made at one time to connect
her name with that of the British deity -
See Roscher's * Lexicon,' part 66, col. 1152.
EDWARD BENSLY.
University College, Aberystwyth.
RICHARD I. IN CAPTIVITY (12 S. iv. 303).—
Lingard in his ' History of England,'
ii. 268-70, says that Richard " was" driven,
by a storm to the coast of Istria, between
Aquileia and Venice, and proceeded towards
Goritz (Gorizia), the residence of Maynardr
a nephew of Conrad." He got as far as
Erperg, a suburb of Vienna, where he was
captured and imprisoned by the Duke of
Austria. Later he was delivered over to
the Emperor Henry VI., who confined him
in a castle in the Tyrol till Queen Eleanor,
his mother, obtained his release through
the mediation of the Pope.
N. W. HILL.
W. E. Flaherty in the ' Annals of England '
1858), vol. i. pp. 275-6, writes :—
" A.D. 1192 The king's fleet reaches Sicily,.
Ut his own vessel is driven to Corfu, Nov. 11 t
e is soon after shipwrecked in the upper part of
;he Adriatic, and attempts to make his way in
disguise as Hugh the merchant. He at length-
reaches Erperg, near Vienna, where, being
recognized, he is seized by Leopold, duke of"
Austria, Dec. 20. The emperor (Henry VI.)
claims the custody of Richard, Dec. 28, and
confines him in a castle in the Tyrol.
A.T>. 1193. Richard's prison is discovered by
Longchamp ; the queen-mother appeals to the
)ope (Celestine III.), who excommunicates hi»
oppressors, but fails to obtain his freedom.,
lichard is brought before the diet at Hagenau,.
ibout Easter (Mar. 28), when he clears himself by
>ath from the murder of Conrad ; a heavy sum w
ettled for his ransom, June 28. ...
" A.D. 1194. . . .The German princes compel the-
mperor, against his will, to release Richard, who
s set at liberty, Feb. 4."
JOHN B. WAINE WRIGHT.
CRAGGS AND NICHOLSON FAMILIES (12 S.
v. 220, 310). — There is a pedigree of the
Craggs and Eliot family in Hasted' s ' History
of Kent,' i. 138, which was communicated
by the Earl of St. Germains. This shows
no connexion between the Craggs and
Nicholson families. I have a pedigree of
the Craggs family, much fuller than the
above, from local (Durham) records and
registers, and it has no connexions with the-
NOTES AND QUERIES. [i2s.v. JAN., 1919.
"Nicholsons. Ferdinand^Craggs, " guessed "
.as the father of Margaret Craggs, died un-
married in 1749, and was buried in Wolsing-
liaxn Churchyard in this county (Durham).
A handsome marble monument to him and
othar members of the family was destroyed
before 1800.
Margaret Craggs (?) (afterwards Nichol-
son) was born in November, 1718, and must
lirwe belonged to some other generation,
afoc- Ferdinand (b. 1671, d. 1749) and the
Rfc. Hon. James (b. 1657, d. 1721) were the
only sons. The father of the two latter
W;is Anthony. He had four brothers :
Thomas, John, George, and William. Thomas
<lied s. p. Was Margaret not a grandchild
of one of the other three ? I cannot follow
•their descent. Thomas, the father of An-
thony, registered his pedigree in 1615, bitt
^Anthony did not do so in 1665. As Margaret
is called first cousin of Secretary Craggs,
It is more than probable that her surname
wa.3 not Craggs. J. W. FAWCETT.
Consett, co. Durham. ,> , „ ^ j£J ?
ARISTOTLE ON THE GREEK TEMPERAMENT
(12 S. iv. 302).— In the ' Politics,' book iv.
{ = vii. formerly), chap. vii. (vol. iii. p. 46
of W. L. Newman's edition), Aristotle
affirms that the races who live in cold
-districts, and in particular those in Europe,
abound in spirit (#17*05), but are deficient
In intellect (Stavota) and skill (f^rf), while
those in Asia are Siavor/n/ca fj.lv Kal rfxy-Ka.
TTJV ^VXTTJV, aOvpa 8c. The Greeks, he goes
on to say, being between the two divisions
geographically, share the qualities of both,
for they are spirited and intellectual. This
Is presumably the place referred to in
Jebb's ' Primer of Greek Literature.'
EDWARD BENSLY.
"HEATER-SHAPED" (12 S. iv. 270).— In
"the Trans. Hist. Soc. Lanes, and Ches. for
1888 (vol. xl.), in a paper on ' Book-Plates,
with a Proposed Nomenclature for the
'Shapes of Shields,' Mr. J. P. Rylands, F.S.A.,
states (p. 13) that it was troublesome to be
obliged, when describing the shape of a
shield, to sketch it, and it had occurred to
"him that by inventing a nomenclature for
the forms of shields trouble might be saved.
He gives a plate showing various shapes of
shields, " and the arbitrary names which I
suggest should be assigned to them."
Shield 5 is the shape of the heater in a hot
iron, and is labelled " heater." In the next
volume (xli.), in a paper by George Graze-
larpok, F.S.A., on the shapes of heraldic
•shields, the writer states (p. 11) his intention
of using " the new system of nomenclature
devised and introduced by. . . .Mr. J. Paul
Rylands," and bears testimony to its great
usefulness as a simple alphabet of shapes, so
convenient that it will come into general
R. S. B.
use.
In ' Monumental Brasses and Slabs,' by
the Rev. Chas. Boutell, 1847, p. 37, the
shield of Sir de Bacon, Gorleston,
Suffolk, is described by this word.
H. K. ST. J. S.
ANCIENT ORDER OF FORESTERS : BLUE
EYE (12 S. iv. 300). — The all-seeing eye has
come down from the Egyptians as a symbol
of providence ; and in heraldry it signifies
provident government, in which sense it
has been appropriated by benefit societies,
&c. Somewhat fancifully, blue is said to
indicate wisdom ; green, power ; and red,
love ; elsewhere the equivalents are given as
red, fire ; blue, air ; and green, earth ; but
no meaning seems to attach to any colour
chosen as tint of an eye. W. B. H.
MERCHANT MARKS AND ANCIENT FINGER -
RINGS (12 S. iv. 301). — 'Rings for the
Finger,' by G. F. Kunz (Lippincott, 1917),
may serve your correspondent's purpose.
Well-to-do merchants of mediaeval times,
not entitled to armorial bearings, often had
special individual marks or symbols en-
graved upon their signets. This custom
obtained 011 the Continent as well as in
England, and allusion is made in * Piers
Plowman,' a poem of the fourteenth cen-
tury, to " merchantes xnerkes ymedeled
in glasse." Probably emblems of this kind
came to have a certain association with the
business, which in many cases descended
from father to son through a number of
generations. ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
MR. SWITHINBANK will find many hundreds
of marks figured in the publications of the
Norfolk and Norwich Archaeological Society
(1850), vol. iii. part ii. ; the British Archaeo-
logical Association (1893), vol. xliv. part i. ;
the Clifton Antiquarian Club, vols. iii. and
vii. ; the Devonshire Association for the
Advancement of Science (1891), vol. xxiii. ;
and the Historic Society of Lancashire and
Cheshire (1910), vol. Ixii., where references
are given to various British and foreign
works on marks. In the Guildhall Library,
London (MSS., Nos. 1105 and 1106), there
are the large collections of merchants' marks
! formed by the late Dr. J. J. Howard and
' Mr. Frost. J. P. R.
12 S. V. JAN., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Some well-illustrated information on the j
subject of merchant marks is given in a
paper read in October, 1915, by Mr. Arbuth-
not Murray, and published in the Proceedings
of the R. W. Masters and Past Masters
Association, under the Grand Lodge of
Free and Accepted Masons of Scotland.
Another source of information which might
prove useful is ' The Lost Language of
Symbolism,' by Harold Bayley (Williams &
Norgate, 1912).
Is the querist satisfied that the mark is
a "merchant's mark," and not one of the
innumerable symbolical devices used in
other connexions ? A description of it
would perhaps help in deciding the point.
ARTHUR BOWES.
Nevrton-le-Willows, Lanes.
Two papers on the subject of merchant
marks have been read before the Clifton
Antiquarian Society : one is printed in
vol. iii. pp. 1 to 4, and the other in vol. vii.
pp. 97 to 194. I have not read them, but
merely made a note that they are to be
found there. If your contributor cares to
send me a wax impression or a drawing of
his ring, I will try to identify it for him at
the Bristol Reference Library.
WM. SAISIGAR.
205 Avon Vale Road, Barton Hill, Bristol.
REV. SIR ROBERT PEAT (12 S. iv. 303). —
Canon Mgr. A. Mifsud in his book * The
Venerable Tongue of England in Malta "
(Malta, 1914), at pp. 288-9, writes as follows :
" Queen Victoria, by her charter of the 14th May
1888, created an Order of St. John of Jerusalem
analogous to, but independent of, the ancient
Order of St. John of Jerusalem called ' of Malta,'
and without any connexion with, or dependency
on, the same. This new creation has been held
by some to constitute a re-integration of the old
' Tongue of England.' The negotiations under-
taken by French Knights of the Order, in 1814
for the revival of the Tongue of England are
supposed to link this modern institution with the
old one."
Then in a note Canon Mifsud refers to
R. Bigsby's ' Memoir of the Order ' (Derby
1869), and to ' The Order of the Hospital of
-St. John of Jerusalem ' (London, 1902), by
W. M. R. Bedford and R. Holbeche. He
goes on : —
" In support of this contention the following
points are set forth : that a convention, based on
articles drawn up for the purpose on the llth June
1826, and on the 24th August and 15th October
1827, was entered ; that an alleged formal recog'
nit ion of the re-established Tongue took place on
24th January, 1831, when Sir Robert Peat
Chaplain extraordinary to H.M. George IV., an<
the holder of a Rectory in Middlesex, installec
himself as Grand Prior of the Tongue of Englanc
in the presence of the Chevalier Philip Chastelairt
and of Mr. Donald Currie, who, by instrument
ssued by the French Knights on the 14th Decem-
)er, 1827, had been deputed to inaugurate the
nstallation. It is a fact that the said Sir Robert
Peat, on 24th February, 1834, deemed it his duty
0 present himself in one of the Chanceries of the-
Royal Courts to take the oath of administration
of the Grand Priory, notwithstanding that his case
did not appear to be contemplated by the Statute^
of George IV. c. 17 prescribing oaths of office, and.
much less was such procedure in any way required
yy the Statute of Philip and Mary invoked by him.
Mr. Cecil Lorr [Torr], in a communication to The-
Athenccum, No. 3267 of 7th June, 1890, has proved
ihat these contentions were untenable."
JOHN B. WAINE WRIGHT.
From obituary notices in The Gentle-
man's Magazine for August, 1837, and
* The Annual Register,' it appears that the-
Rev, Robert Peat had no English title, and
took the style of " Sir " from permission,
given him by George III. to wear the Polish
decoration. Rector of Ashley- cum -Silverley
and Vicar of Kirtling, co. Cambridge, he
was at some time chaplain to, and in the
confidence of, the Prince Regent, who pro-
cured him the living of New Brentford,
where he died, April 20, 1837, aged 65.
He was author of a published sermon on the
Thanksgiving Day for the Peace, 1814, and
is erroneously referred to in a work pub-
lished in his lifetime as a baronet. His
name is not in the knights' lists, and he*
was never " Prior of the Sovereign Order
of St. John of Jerusalem " ; he became an
ordinary member of that Order on Nov. 1 1 r
1830. W. B. H.
In 1801 the Rev. Robert Peat, D.D.,,
was chaplain to H.R.H. the Prince of Wales
1 find him so described in the records of a*
Masonic lodge which he joined in that year.
Ho was knighted, probably, before 1808,,
as, I think, he is called Sir Robert Peat in
the lodge records of that year, but I have
no note on the point.
C. W. FIREBBACE, Capt.
In Mr. H. W. Fincham's ' History of the
Order of St. John of Jerusalem in England *
the name of Sir Robert Peat appears firt t
on the list of " the Grand Priors " after the
revival of the Order in England ; and it is
there noted that he " took the oath De ficlele
administratione " before the Lord Chief
Justice of England on Feb. 24, 1834, having
been elected Grand Prior at a Chapter
General of the English Langue held in
January, 1831.
Sir Robert died April 21, 1837, aged
66 years, according to an inscription printed
NOTES AND QUERIES,
112S. V. JAN., 1919.
t>y T. Faulkner in his ' History of Brentford,'
«.nd was buried in the church of St. Lawrence,
New Brentford. His library, containing a
good selection of theological works and of
Oreek and Latin classics, was sold at
Sotheby's in June of that year.
R. JAMES PARKER.
Darfield Eoad, Crofton Park, S.B.
THE POPE'S CROSIER (12 S. iv. 13).—
A. E. P. R. D. asks for a verification of the
statement that, according to St. Thomas
Aquinas, the Pope never carried a crosier
unless he entered the diocese of Trier.
This practice is mentioned by Jeremy
Taylor in his * Discourse of the Liberty of
Prophesying,' § 7, * Of the fallibility of the
pope and the uncertainty of his expounding
scripture and resolving questions.' Taylor
gives Aquinas as his authority, and adds the
marginal reference, " In iv. sent. dist. 24."
Eden in his edition of Taylor's works,
vol. v. p. 466, adds the further detail,
•" q. 3 art. 3 fin." EDWARD BENSLY.
ICKE FAMILY (12 S. iv. 106, 226, 311).—
Lower's ' Patronymica Britannica ' derived
the surname Hick or Hicks from Isaac, and
Canon Bardsley in his first work, ' English
Surnames,' took a similar view. This is
•doubtless the book referred to by SIR
DOUGLAS OWEN. Bardsley, who made a
special study of surnames in his later years,
" produced his * Dictionary of English and
Welsh Surnames ' in 1901. In this work he
altered his view entirely in regard to the
personal names Hicks, Higgs, &c., and
wrote, s.v. Higgin : —
"I stated in my 'English Surnames' (1875)
that Isaac was the parent of Hikke, Higgs, giving
my reasons. B\it I was altogether wrong, and I
take this opportunity of apologizing for what at
"best was only a guess."
Under Hick he writes : —
" That Hick was the nickname of Richard, for
a time rivalling Dick, is clearly manifest. . . .If it
be objected that Hick is hard and Richard soft,
the same objection applies to Dick. Besides,
Hick had a softened variant in Hitch, whence our
Hichins, Hichinsons, Hitchins, and Hitchings. . . .
In the after-race for popularity Dick won at a
canter, and while Hick is forgotten, Dick holds
his own."
Under Icke he says : —
" The son of Richard, from the nickname Hick.
The surname seems to have lost its aspirate."
While Isaac would produce Ike and Ikey,
it Would not give Icke and Ickey. It is
quite possible that, as Lower suggests, there
may be a place-name Heck or Hick which is
responsible for some of the personal names
now current, as such family names as Ross,
Lum, &c., appear to have more than one
souce to draw from.
See also the entries under Dick, Diggs,
Dickens (from a French Diquon), Dix
(Dixon), and Hickok in Bardsley' s « Dic-
tionary/
The Rev. J. W. Johnston derives Eccles
and Beccles from ecclesia and bi-ecclesia, or
Church and Bychurch. N. W. HILL.
36 Highbury Place, N.5.
"BIAJER" (12 S. iv. 187, 252).— On
reading MR. S. PONDER' s reply, I remem-
bered that there is an interesting note tin
the Orang-Laut in ' My Journal in Malayan
Waters; or, the Blockade of»Quedah,' by
Capt. Sherard Osborn, R.N., C.B., (3rd ed.,
1861, pp. 253-9). In this he writes : —
" My Malays owned they were countrymen, but
spoke of them as barbarians of the lowest caste,
pariahs of Malay ia, and summed them up by the
title of Bad People, or Gipsies, who make war
alike by petty theft upon Malays or Siamese."
G. H. WHITE.
23 Weighton Road, Anerley.
LEAP YEAR : LADY'S OFFER OF MAR-
RIAGE (12 S. iv. 245). — A law punishing a
man who refused a lady's offer of marriage
is said to have been passed, not in France,
but in Scotland, in the year 1288. If the
man refuse the lady, he shall be " mulcted
in ye sum ane pundis or less, as his estait
may be," unless he can prove himself
betrothed already. The French law fol-
lowed in a few years ; and it is said that
before Columbus sailed in 1492 (first voyage)
the " law " was extended to Florence and
Genoa. There seems to be no record of
any fines exacted under this sentimental
statute. In England of the early seven-
teenth century a man was not * entitled to
" benefit of clergy " if he disdained such an
offer ; and later a refusal cost the happy
man a silk gown — a legend traced to St.
Patrick.
' A Valentine to her that excelleth All,' by
" daun Johan Lidegate, ye munke of Bury,'
in " wyse of chesing loues at Saint Valen-
tynes day " (Early Eng. Text Soc., Extra
Series, cvii.), makes choice of the valentine
a serious business : —
Some cheese for fayrnesse and for hye beaute,
Some for estate, and some eke for rychchesse,
Some for fredame, and some for bountee,
Some for theyre poorte and theyr gentylesse.
The poet chose Mary (the Virgin), but
added a more worldly (in every way) and
i pointed " Lenvoye " to " sixst Henry, his
! moder Kateryne."
12 S. V JAN., 1919.J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
25
In his ' Kalendare ' his " chesing " was
yet another : —
Be of good comfort and ioye now, herte myne,
Wei mayst thu glade and verray lusty be,
For as I hope truly, Seynt Valentyne
Wil schewe us loue, and daunsyng be with me.
O virgyn lulyan, I chese now the
To my valentyne ....
The letters v and g were often inter-
changeable ; and " Valentine " has been
identified with the Norman Fr. galantin, a
philanderer. GEORGE MARSHALL.
21 Parkfield Road, Liverpool.
BOYS BORN IN MAY (12 S. iv. 133, 172,
257). — From the Life of Mang-Chang-kiun
written by Sze-Ma Tsien (first century B.C.),
as well as Ying Chau's ' Fung-suh-tung,'
torn. ii. (second century A.D.), it appears
that the ancient Chinese believed that boys
and girls born on the fifth of the fifth moon
respectively would hurt their fathers and
mothers when grown up. Sie Chung-Chi
in his ' Wu-tsah-tsu,' written c. 1610, dis-
proved this popular error by naming alto-
gether ten distinguished men born on the
fifth of the fifth moon, and showing that but
two of them proved hurtful to their fathers'
reputation. KUMAGUSU MINAKATA.
Tanabe, Kii, Japan.
WHITE HORSE OF KENT : LANDSCAPE
WHITE HORSES (12 S. iv. 245, 312).— In
' The Ancient Kingdom of Kent,' by Mr.
C. J. Redshaw, which appeared in The
Invicta Magazine for February, 1908, occurs
the following suggestion concerning the origin
of the Kentish emblem, which may be worth
considering : —
" The second century B.C. marks an epoch in
the history of Kent, because then a gold coin — the
first gold coin in Britain — was added to its
currency, and it was impressed with the stamp of
a horse rampant. In an excellent volume entitled
4 Gravesend in the very Time of Olde,' Mr. G. M.
Arnold, D.L., J.P., F.S.A., thinks it was struck in
imitation of ' the stater of Philip,' a gold coin of
Philip II. of Macedon, at about the year 350 B.C.,
v/hereon appeared a small chariot drawn by two
horses abreast, a large quantity of which he
presumes were carried away by Brennus, when he
raided Greece, with an army of Gauls, in 279 B.C.,
and stiggests that it thus became the gold currency
of Gaul, whence, in the ordinary way of commerce,
it would naturally have been circulated here ....
Mr. Arnold's idea that the Kent coin was an
imitation of the ' stater ' may be correct, and as
the training of horses was a leading occupation
in the little kingdom at that period, the substituted
design is easily accounted for. That being so, we
must not overlook the important fact that therein
lies the origin also of our famous county emblem,
which, having appeared on our coinage about a
couple of centuries before the Christian era, is the
most ancient in Britain."
In * Coins and Medals,' edited by Stanley
Lane-Poole (Elliot Stock, 1885), is an
illustration (p. 101) of this " British gold
coin " ; and in chap. v. of this volume Mr.
Chas. F. Keary traces the introduction of
this coinage into these islands from Greece,
through Massalia into Gaul, and adds that
" about the middle of the second century
B.C. the southern coast of Britain adopted
from Gaul the same habit."
The theory of the origin of our Kentish
horse advanced in the above extract from
Invicta is the only really feasible one I have
ever come across. Possibly, in subsequent
numbers of this magazine, other theories
may have been brought forward ; but, as T
have seen only Nos. 1 and 2, I am unable to
say. Perhaps some Kentish reader can
enlighten me. W. SHARP.
Wetheral, Carlisle.
HOTEL BRISTOL (12 S. iv. 272, 310).—
MR. WAINE WRIGHT'S obliging reply appears
to be a satisfactory solution of the problem.
It may be worth adding that since the
inquiry was made I have received a copy of
an interesting book upon Calcutta, ancient
and modern, and among the three photo-
graphs of the leading hotels, I find there also
an Hotel Bristol !
J. H. RlVETT-CARNAC.
" MALBROOK S'EN VA-T-EN GUERRE " (12 S.
iv. 302). — The version of ' Malbrook ' in-
quired for by J. R. H. occurs in Harrison
Ainsworth's romance ' The Court of Queen
Anne,' published in Ainswortli's Magazine
some time in the forties of last century. If
I remember right, the song was put into the
mouth of an ex-sergeant of Marlborough's
army. S. PONDER.
Torquay.
V. KNIGHTLEY CHETWOOD LAB AT : ISMENIA
(12 S. iv. 188, 256). — Perhaps the name
Ismenia might be taken from a French
romance, ' Arsaces and Ismenia,' of the
middle of the eighteenth century.
W. B. S.
"HELL FOR LEATHER" (12 S. iv. 186).—
In or about 1914 there was a similar inquiry
in the correspondence columns of The
Spectator, and various solutions were offered..
Eventually, I suggested that it was a
corruption of the German phrase Hulfe fur
Leder, referring to the run of a hunted
animal seeking " safety for its leather,"
or hide or skin, by flight at top speed. No*
one beat me about the head for this, and
I flattered myself that the explanation was
accepted.
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 S.V.JAN., 1919
I have since read in an article by a well-
known sporting writer — I think it was
Gareth in The Referee — that it had been
suggested to him that it really meant " all
of a lather " ; but if I remember right, he
Teoeived the suggestion without comment.
CHARLES -BERE.
Milverton, Somerset.
EPITAPH TO A SLAVE (12 S. iv. 323).—
Such tombstone memorials to slaves are
very scarce, and until reading that copied
by MR. FAWCETT I knew of but one other,
•to which my attention was directed about
a year ago by my friend Mr. H. W. Lewer,
F.S.A. It is in Essex, on the north side
of the churchyard of Little Parndon, and
reads as follows : —
Here | lieth the body of | Hester Woodley
who died | the 15th of May 1767 aged 62 | this
stone was Erected by | John Woodley Esqr of
Cork Sfc. London | As a grateful Remembrance
of her | Faithfully discharged[ing] her Duty I
With the Utmost Attention and Integrity |
in the service of his late Mother | Mrs. Bridget
Woodley to whom she | belonged during her life
and | after her Death to her Daughter | Mrs.
Mary Parsons by virtue of a | Reciprocal Agree-
ment made between | the said Mrs. Bridget
Woodley | and her son John Woodley | whose
Property she Would otherwise | have been at her
Decease ] These are Facts.
In the word " discharged " the " ed " has
been erased, and " ing " inscribed above.
Mrs. Bridget Woodley was the wife of
William x Woodley of the island of St.
Ohristopher, and this slave was probably
therefore from the West Indies.
STEPHEN J. BARNS.
Fratinsr, Woodside Road,
Woodford Wells.
Somewhat similar memoiials occur at
Hillingdon, co. Middx. (Toby Pleasant,
d. 1784) ; at Hampton, co. Middx. (Charles
Pompey, d. 1719) ; and at Great Marlow,
Busks (Geo. Alex. Gratton, " the Spotted
Negro Boy," d. 1813). M. .
HERALDIC : CAPTOR AND KIS CAPTIVES'
ARMS (12 S. iv. 188, 251, 334).— An instance
is given in Izacke's * Memorials of Exeter,'
1677, p. 72. He tells us that, in the begin-
ning of King Henry V.'s reign,
" a Knight named Ar agonise ["a certain knight-
errand of Arragon," says Prince in his ' Worthies
of Devon '], who in divers Countreys for his
Honour had performed many noble Atchieve-
ments, at length visited England, and challenged
many persons of his Rank and Quality, to make
trial of his skill in Arms, which Sir Robert Cary
accepted, between whom was waged a cruel
encounter, and a long and doubtful Combat in
Smith-field, London ; where this Mars vanquished
this Aragonise, for which he was by the King
Knighted, and restored to part of his Father's
inheritance ; And by the Law of 'Heraldry, who-
soever fairly in the Field conquered his Adversary,
may justifie the wearing and bearing of his Arms
whom he overcame, and accordingly he takes
on him the Coat Armory of the said Aragonise,
being Argent on a bend Sable, three Roses of the
First, and ever since born by the name of Cary,
whose ancient Coat of Armory I find to be Gules
a Cheuron Argent between three Sicans proper, one
whereof they still retain in their Crest."
Is anything known of this " Araeonise " ?
R. PEARSE CHOPE.
,LE GATEAU: CAMBRAI (12 S. iv. 269).—
The writer of the Second Diary of the
English College at Douai under the year
1577 records : —
" 2° Martii, qui idem dies fuit sabbatum 4
temporum ineuntis Quadragesimse, Rmo Camera-
censi generates ordines aptid Castrum Cameracesii
celebrante, ex nostris theol. studiosis viginti
sacris initiati stint, quorum quatuor ad sub-
diaconatum, ad diaconatum quatuordecim, etduo
alii, videlicet D. Cocksuset D. Stokes, ad ordinem
presbyteratus sunt promoti."
JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.
AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED (12 S.
iii. 510 ; iv. 32, 62, 287).—
1. Quinque sumus fratres, uno de stipifce nati.
The fivefold division of the rose's calyx did not
escape Sir Thomas Browne, who saw quincunxes
in the heaven above and the earth below : " But
nothing is more admired then the five Brethren
of the Rose, and the strange dispose re of the
Appendices or Beards, in the calicular leaves
thereof," &c. (' The Garden of Cyrus,' chap. iii.).
Wilkin in the notes to his edition of Browne's
works gives the following " rustic rhyme " —
On a summer's day, in sultry weather,
Five brethren were born together,
Two had beards, and two had none,
And the other had but half a one.
The references to ' N. & Q.' which ST. SWITHTN
was unable to furnish may be found in the late
E. H. Marshall's notes to ''The Garden of Cyrus '
in the ' Golden Treasury ' edition : 6 S. iii. 466 ;
iv. 73. EDWARD BENSLY.
(12 S. iv. 331.)
The good we wish for often proves our bane.
These words form the first line in the recitative
preceding the bass solo {Manoah) " Thy glorious
deeds inspir'd my tongue " in the libretto of
Handel's oratorio ' Samson.' They are evidently
based, on lines 352-3 of Milton's ' Samson
Agonistes ' : —
(Manoah log.). . . .Nay, what thing good,
Pray'd for, but often proves our woe, our bane ?
There is a similar idea in lines 63-4 of the same
poem : —
(Samson loq.) Suffices that to me strength is
my bane,
And proves the source of all my miseries.
JOHN T. PAGE.
[Ms. JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT thanked for reply.]
12 S. V. JAN., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Shakespeare's Workmanship. By Sir Arthur
Quiller-Couch. (Fisher Unwin, 15s. net.)
SIR ARTHUR has read a good deal of Shake-
spearian criticism, but he is no slave to tradi-
tional opinions. He will give generous praise
to this or that piece of interpretation, and will
dismiss another with a shrug of the shoulders;
he has loved Shakespeare from a boy, and seen
him with fresh eyes, and now with deft hands
and a light touch he tells us his impressions.
He gives new meaning to this or that line which
we had passed unnoticed ; he points out the
wonderful quality of Shakespeare's work, while
not shrinking from condemning it as slovenly
in this or that detail ; he throws in personal
recollections and jokes to beguile our ears, and
sends us away exhilarated and charmed. Every
student of Shakespeare, even the oldest, will
feel he has gained by reading this book.
It is not that it is in any way epochmaking,
nor in the main very new — not so new, certainly,
as Sir Arthur seems to think. His dislike of
commentators and academic scholars sometimes
leads to outbursts which are foolish or unfair.
He dismisses Mr. E. K. Chambers's explanation
of the term " interlude " without a word of
refutation, and substitutes another for which
he does not advance a particle of evidence —
" that ' Interlude ' meant, or came to mean, a
C' j of a sort commonly presented indoors, in
queting halls, in the interval between theatri-
cal seasons ; or, in other words, the sort of play
to amuse a Christmas or Twelfth Night audience "
(p. 142). He is ready to infer the conditions
of the public theatre from those of the banquet-
ing hall : " Upon the masques, as we know, very
large sums of money were spent ; and I make no
doubt that before the close of Shakespeare's
theatrical career, painted scenes and tapestries
were the fashion " (p. 22). But no evidence is
adduced. He dismisses without examination
the reasons that have been alleged for con-
sidering the Hecate scenes in ' Macbeth ' un-
Shakespearian. All we have is : " It docs not
appear likely to me that a whole set of foolish
men (though Middleton in itself seems a well-
enough-inyented name) were kept permanently
employed 'to come in and write something when-
ever Shakespeare wanted it foolish " (p. 76).
If this is Sir Arthur's way of arguing with serious
students, our sympathies go over to them and
leave the genial dilettante. There are times
when Sir Arthur's recollection even of the play
he is treating fails him. On the question why
Hamlet himself did not inherit his father's
throne, he says : " Shakespeare overlooking this
trifle, Hamlet does not seem to mind or indeed,
to think about it first or last " (p. 176). But
Hamlet thinks about it very seriously (V. ii.
64-8) :—
He that hath kill'd my king, and stain'd my
mother,
Popp'd in between the election and my hopes. . . .
is't not perfect conscience
To quit him with this arm ?
Sir Arthur is so self-confident, and so contemp-
tuous of the unhappy commentators " who have
never created a play or a novel or a scene or a
character in their lives," that it is necessary to
point out that his dicta are not all equally sound.
But this is not the note on which we would
close. He has written in a charming and illu-
minating manner on many of the plays — 'Mac-
beth,' ' Midsummer Night's Dream,' ' As You
Like It.' ' Cymbeline,' and ' The Tempest '
par excellence ; he has made some very telling
criticisms of ' The Merchant of Venice ' and
' The Winter's Tale.' He expresses the feeling
of many of us when he writes : " The dreariest
Eassages in Shakespeare are those in which his
idies and courtiers exchange * wit.' " He has
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Sir Sidney Colvin's (p. 261). He has given us a
book full of a light and happy spirit, common
sense, and insight — now turned on the immediate
subject, now on something a little extraneous,
as in his charming account of his canoe voyage
down the Avon (pp. 121-3), or the equally
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lifelong devotion inspired in so many by the
unfortunate Elizabeth of Bohemia (p. *309).
At times he strikes a grave note well worth
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" I have known an Archbishop from a Uni-
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more progressive race than they, with a great
literature, too — for in his fervour the preacher
even dragged in literature, and therefore (argued
he) God, who encourages and presides over the
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It is good for our humility to be reminded
that the cant which makes Kultur an excuse for
aggression has not always been the peculiar
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CONTENTS. — No. 89.
NOTES : — ' Double Falsehood ' : Shakespeare, Fletcher,
and Theobald, 30 — The 'New English Dictionary':
Changes in Accentuation. 32— Richard Edwards's Corre-
spondence, 33 — First American Soldiers to fall in the
Great War — Tanks in the Great War — Tennyson and
Opium, 36—' Our Mutual Friend ' : a Topographical Slip
— Herrick's Debt to Andrew Willet— Sheridan on Puffs-
George Stepney at Vienna— Badulla, Ceylon : Tombstone
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QUERIES :— 'N. & Q.' : its Offspring in Other Countries-
Samuel Johnson and Ben Jonson— Matthew Arnold and
" Anglo-Saxon contagion "—Matthew Arnold : Proving a
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Balls as Christmas Collecting Boxes— Goldsworthy as a
Place-Name—Borough Courts : " Jur de la vile"— Vauve-
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S. T. Coleridge on Immortality — Scotch University
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* DOUBLE FALSEHOOD ' :
SHAKESPEARE, FLETCHER, AND
THEOBALD.
THOSE most competent to settle the Shake-
spearian canon accord it a minimum of
36 plays and a maximum of 39, the ones
sometimes included and sometimes excluded
being * Titus Andronicus,' ' Edward III.,'
and ' The Two Noble Kinsmen.' Can it be
that those less conservative critics who
have adopted the higher number should add
yet another play to their list ?
That was the interesting question which
met me when an American scholar, Mr.
Gamaliel Bradford, jun., sent me some two
or three yea,rs ago a copy of an article he
had written for an American literary
magazine (Modern Language Notes) on the
authorship of ' Double Falsehood,' in which
he sought to prove the participation of
Fletcher, and hinted at that of Shakespeare.
He asked me, as one who had ventured
into print more than once in endeavours to
settle vexed questions regarding the author-
ship both of plays attributed to Fletcher
and of plays ascribed to Shakespeare, to
give him my opinion upon the play he had
been studying. This, unfortunately, I was
unable to do, because in the whole of
Australia there was not, so far as I could
ascertain, a copy of ' Double Falsehood.'
This lack has now been remedied, a copy
of the play having been obtained by the
Melbourne Public Library, and this I have
lost no time in subjecting to an examination,
the result of which I give here.
First, however, let us consider whether
there is any reason whatever to connect
the play with Shakespeare. Elizabethans
may be interested in the proving or dis-
proving of the presence of Fletcher ; but the
general reader will wish to know the value
of the external evidence that connects the
name of Shakespeare with this play, which
has been so generally assumed to be the
work of the eighteenth-century Theobald.
It was, indeed, between 111 and 112 years
after Shakespeare's death when 'Double
Falshood ; or, The Distrest Lovers,' was
given to the stage and to the press, with an
attribution to Shakespeare as the original
author, and an assertion that it had been
" now revised and adapted to the stage by
Mr. Theobald." As was natural in the
circumstances, the play was roundly de-
nounced as a forgery ; and Theobald did
not lessen the doubt expressed regarding it
when, on certain lines being picked out for
praise, he claimed tho?e lines as his own.
It has also to be remarked that Theobald's
action in regard to another play was such
as to warrant one in questioning his scrupu-
lousness. In 1716 had been produced as
his a play, ' The Perfidious Brother,' which
he was accused of having stolen from a man
named Mestayer. According to Theobald,
Mestayer had given him the plot and
something designed to be a play, and he
had so entirely recast it in fitting it for the
stage that he had felt justified in regarding
it as his own. Mestayer, however, sub-
sequently published the play in (so he
asserted) the form in which it had been
originally written. According to Prof.
| Lounsbury, it was unactable as it stood,
: but was certainly the groundwork of
I Theobald's play, which ought to have been
; announced as based upon it. It is, how-
ever, in Theobald's favour that even his
enemies (and he had many) seemed to
think there was nothing in the charge
brought against him in this matter. In
any case, there is a difference between
claiming for oneself what is in its essence
the work of another man and giving to
another credit for work that is one's own.
The theory that Theobald forged 'Double
Falsehood ' is not to be accepted without
very good reason. There is, however,
another possibility that must be taken into
account — the possibility that, finding an
old Elizabethan play, he may have com-
mitted a double falsehood of his own by
pretending that one of the manuscripts
bore the name of Shakespeare, and by
asserting that the play in its original form
had never found its way to the stage.
Theobald met the doubts raised as to a
play by Shakespeare " being stifled and
lost to the world for above a century " thus :
He possessed, he said, three copies : one ob-
tained from a " noble person " (who had
acquainted Theobald with " a tradition "
that it had been written in the time of
Shakespeare's retirement from the stage
and given by him to a natural daughter), one
purchased " at* a good rate," and one '* in
the handwriting of Mr. Downes, the famous
old prompter." He had been "credibly
12 S. V. FEB., 1919.]
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31
informed " that this last manuscript " was
early in the possession of the celebrated
Mr. Betterton, and by him designed to have
been usher' d into the world " ; but he did
not know what accident had prevented the
fulfilment of this purpose. This cannot
be said to be a very sufficient statement ;
but it is quite understandable that, if there
were such manuscripts in Theobald's pos-
session, he could give no reasonable account
of their previous history : they were not
likely to be stamped with a record of their
experiences. I am not aware that any
one of his critics was refuted by a sight of
these manuscripts ; but neither can it be
said that any of them demanded an in-
spection.
There have been adduced three reasons
to make one doubt Theobald's good faith :
the first is, the unlikelihood of his having
three manuscripts of the play ; the second
is, the disappearance of those manuscripts ;
the third is, the omission of the play from
his edition of Shakespeare's works sub-
sequently issued.
The first of these does not strike me as
of much weight. Theobald, if meditating
a revising of the play to fit it for the stage
(for it seems to have been a genuine belief
of Theobald's that it had never been acted,
the memory of its having been produced
having probably died out long before the
time of Mr. Dowries), would probably seek
to get all the copies he could, especially as
the value of his copyright would be seriously
impaired if some one else published the
play as it had stood in the original.
The second argument is more cogent.
Theobald's library, containing a number of
old plays, was sold in 1744 after his death,
and it has been suggested that the Shake-
speare play in manuscript subsequently
destroyed by Warburton's notorious cook
was one of the copies of the original version
of ' Double Falsehood.' If we could say
definitely that when Theobald's effects were
sold there was among them no manuscript
of a play purporting to be by Shakespeare,
the opponents of Theobald would have a
good case ; as it is, all that is to be said is
that the matter is left indefinite : we have
had other cases of manuscripts of old plays
disappearing ; and, moreover, the early
part of the eighteenth century did not
attach the importance to Shakespeare's
that we do.
The third point to which I have referred
has not much in it : to have included
' Double Falsehood ' in his edition of
Shakespeare would presumably have inter-
fered with Theobald's copyright of the play,
or at any rate with his profits. This copy-
right had been granted to him for fourteen
years, and he naturally would not wish it
disturbed, as it still had some eight years
to run when his edition of Shakespeare was
produced. There is, then, no really sound
reason for doubting Theobald's honesty in
the matter.
The source of the play is to be found in
the story of Cardenio in ' Don Quixote,'
which was first published in the original
Spanish in 1605, and in its English trans-
lation by Shelton in 1612. It is note-
worthy that the publication of this English
translation was quickly followed by the
appearance of a play on the subject of
Cardenio. On May 20, 1613, John Hemings
was paid on behalf of the King's players
for presenting at Court half-a-dozen plays,
among which was one called c Cardano ' or
* Cardenno ' ; and on June 8 he again
presented this play, which a later entry
described as ' Cardema ' and ' Cardenna.'
There need be no question that this was a
Elay on the subject of the Cardenio story,
ike so many other plays, it drops out of
notice after these early productions, and
the next we hear of it is the entry of a
drama described as *'The History of Car-
denio by Mr. Fletcher and Shakespeare "
in the Stationers' Register in 1653 for
publication by Humphrey Moseley.
It will be said that an attribution after a
lapse of forty years is not of much value,
especially when made by a publisher who
was in the habit of fraudulently securing
the registration of two separate plays as
one by the simple device of entering the
one not only under its own title, but under
that of another play as well, the two titles
being given as alternatives ; but there are
some very strong reasons nevertheless for
thinking Moseley 's entry genuine. In the
first place, he did not, so far as is known,
ever deliberately ascribe a play to some one
who had had nothing to do with its author-
ship. Presumably, therefore, the names
of Shakespeare and Fletcher were on the
manuscript he possessed. Secondly, we now
know that a play on this very subject was
presented by the company with which
Shakespeare and Fletcher were most pro-
minently connected — the only company,
indeed, with which, so far as is known,
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[12 8. V. FEB., 1919.
Shakespeare was ever connected. Thirdly,
its production synchronizes with the sup-
posed collaboration of these two authors
in ' The Two Noble Kinsmen ' (probably
1613) and 'Henry VIII.' (1613). Fourthly,
all these facts fit in with the statement by
Theobald that for the play he published on
this very subject Shakespeare was to some
extent responsible.
Against the^e arguments for the sound-
ness of Moseley's attribution are to be set
two — the play was not included in any
edition of the works of Shakespeare, and
it was not included in either of the collec-
tions of plays published under the joint
names of Beaumont and Fletcher. Moseley
was the publisher of the Beaumont and
Fletcher folio of 1647, but presumably he
did not obtain possession of this play till
later, since he did not present it for regis-
tration till some six years afterwards ;
and the folio of 1679, though it contains
an additional 18 plays, including one for
which neither author was in any way
responsible, does not contain one which
had not already appeared in print. Simi-
larly, too late for inclusion in the first two
folios of Shakespeare, the play's exclusion
from the folio of 1664 is of no significance
when we consider that the 7 additional
plays included therein (all of which, with one
exception, the critics are practically unani-
mous in rejecting) had all of them been
published earlier in quarto. The publishers
may not have been able to obtain possession
of Moseley 's manuscript, and may even
have been ignorant of its existence.
But, while I have exhausted the argu-
ments, other than aesthetic, against the
identification of Theobald's play with the
work of Shakespeare and Fletcher, I have
by no means exhausted the arguments in
favour of such identification. It is to be
understood that Theobald had no knowledge
that ' Cardenio ' had ever been produced
(his sincerity on that score is scarcely to be
questioned), and that he was ignorant that
the names of Shakespeare and Fletcher had
ever been connected in regard to a play on the
subject. Had it been otherwise, can we
suppose that he would have failed to make
much of the fact ? Again, we have the
interesting circumstance that Theobald's
enemies and critics — ignorant, be it remem-
bered, of any reason to suppose that Fletcher
had any connexion with the play — pointed
out that " the colouring, diction, and char-
acters " were " nearer to the style and
manner of Fletcher " than to those of
Shakespeare, and the further circumstance
that Theobald (who, had he been aware that
Fletcher and Shakespeare were supposed to
have collaborated in a play on this subject,
would have eagerly welcomed the suggestion)
indignantly denied the correctness of their
view. The knowledge we now possess as
to the production of * Cardenio ' and as to
its entry for publication shows us that those
who disbelieved in the Shakespearian author-
ship of the play put forward an argument
that really tends with us towards the
acceptance of the idea of Shakespeare's
participation (for, if Fletcher be admitted
to be present in * Double Falsehood,' we
have made a long step towards the identi-
fication of the play with ' Cardenio,' and
consequently towards the connexion of
Shakespeare with it) ; and it further shows
us that Theobald vigorously repulsed an
argument that we cannot now but regard
as favourable to his cause.
Melbourne.
E. H. C. OLIPHANT.
(To be continued.)
THE ' NEW ENGLISH DICTIONARY ' :
CHANGES IN ACCENTUATION, &c.
IN the following notes on the ' N.E.D.' the
words are cited as accented in the Dic-
tionary.
A'ccess. — A'ccess the word "early" be-
came, says the Dictionary. Yes ; in Milton,
in Dryden. But Shelley still has acce'ss — of
course, Shakespeare had, always — once
a'ccess. Wordsworth also once.
Alli'es. — There is difference, not only in.
conversational use, but in poetry. Shelley
already had
Have been abandoned by their faithless a'lliea,.
The Arnaut, Servian, and Albanian a'lliea.
Now, Gerald Gould's ' Monogamy,' 1918,
Taking for a'llies music and good wine.
Lady Sarah Lennox, 1760, noted that
her king "laid the accents on the first
syllable of Allys and Revenues, which is after
the Scottish pronunciation." (Generally, of
course, Scottish and Irish accenting, if
differing from English, is older, and later
on in the word.)
The Dictionary frequently cites — as
former dictionaries cited — poets, against the
only accenting it allows. And poets of
to-day.
12 S. V. FEB., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
33
Co'nsummate (vb.). — Accented consu'mmate
4i until within the last few years." True,
generally. But Wordsworth (d. 1850) has
only co 'nsummate. And though P ope ( d . 1 7 44 )
or a co-worker has consu'mmate (* Odyssey,'
xx.), Shakespeare (d. 1616) has
'To co'nsummate this business happily
(' K. John,' V. vii. 96).
There shall we co'nsummate our spousal rites
(' Titus Andronicus ').
In fact, Dr. Johnson's 1755 note is,
<{ anciently accented on the first syllable."
Co'ntrary. — The Poet Laureate of this
.hour : —
Now fate that look'd contra'ry hath fulfill'd
(' Demeter,' 1. 899).
By faint contra'ry wind stay'd in her cruise.
(' Elegy ' in 1890).
Spenser (d. 1599), as one might expect at his
date, has
Forcibly driven with contra'ry tides.
Yet Shakespeare indeed has nearly always
co'ntrary.
E'xculpate. — Robert Bridges in 1890
(' Affliction of Poland ') had not shifted the
accent to the first syllable : —
What marvel in me wrought
Shall quite excu'lpate thee ?
Expre'ss (adj.). — Shakespeare has, once,
Express : —
As bid me tell my tale in e'xpress words
(' K. John,' IV. ii. 234).
But, e.g., Sir H. Taylor in modern days : —
Save at the e'xpress instance of the Earl
(' Philip van Artevelde,' ii. 6).
Extre'me (adj.). — No note is taken of a
poetic tradition e'xtreme — from Shakespeare's
plays to Swinburne : —
Or snows on the e'xtreme hills, or iron land
Where no spring is (' Atalanta').
And breathless gates and e'xtreme hilla of heaven
(id.).
For e'xtreme loathing and supreme desire (ib.).
In the e'xtreme range and race of life
('Bothwell,' I. L).
Sir H. Taylor, in 1834, had quoted con
temporary verse : —
And heartless weariness of e'xtreme age.
Quintessence . — Quintessence in Shake
speare, Ben Jonson, Ford, Milton, Davies,
Donne — down to Archbishop Alexander: —
An Oxford of a more majestic growth,
A Rome that sheds no blood, and makes no
slave ;
The perfect flower and quintessence of both.
Dr. Johnson in 1755 had given quintessence,
but had cited poets against himself.
Two notes on other subjects may be
added : —
Management (Fr. management}. — In this
sense obsolete, says the 'N.E.D.,' quoting
Burke's * Letter,' 1790 : " You certainly do
not always convey to me your opinions
with the greatest tenderness and manage-
ment " / and giving as the last example of
the word Mill's 'British India,' 1818.
Cardinal Newman writes, 1864 : —
" The truest expedience is to answer right out
when you are asked : the wisest economy is to
have no management : the best prudence is not
to be a coward " (end of Note F to * Apologia ').
One-sided. — The earliest reference given
is 1833. None is given for one-sidedness.
Mill, concerning Wordsworth, writes to
Sterling, October, 1831 :—
" The next thing that struck me was the extreme
comprehensiveness and philosophic spirit which
is in him. By these expressions I mean the direct
antithesis of what the Germans most expressively
call one-sidedness " — Einaeitigkeit.
W. F. P. STOCKLEY.
Woodside, Tivoli, Cork.
THE CORRESPONDENCE OF RICHARD
EDWARDS, 1669-79.
(See 12 S. iii. 1, 44, 81, 122, 161, 205, 244
262, 293, 323, 349, 3"/7, 409, 439, 470, 498;
iv. 39, 96, 151, 209, 267, 321.)
LETTER XCIV.
Samuel BulUvant to Richard Edwards.
(O.C. 3759.)
Singee March 12th 1672/3
Mr Richard Edwards
and Respected Freind
I have not of late heard fr[om you]
and (if I bee not mistaken) you are my
D[ebtor for] a Letter or 2, but my business
being of no grea[t con]sequence, suppose
your more solid affaires [ma]y occation your
silence. I understand your health by Mr
Elwes (which am glad to heare). The peon
that came up with the rarities returning, I
would [not] omitt this oportunity of
sending to you. In my last to you I desired
you to send mee word whether [you]
received a silver coja* directed to you to
send fo[rward to] Mr Clavell. Tis now
3 months since I sent itf [?] I have no newes
* See Letter V.
t See Letter LXIII.
34
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. v. FEB., 1919.
of its arrivall ; it went with the Factory
bookes. Pray in your next let mee know if
it came to your hand. I had [illegible]
Chest [sen]t mee from my Brother in
England, which has laine [at] Hugly this
5 months. Twas sent to Mr Bagnold to
[send] forward (who dying) suppose tis
forgotten [and] they know not whose tis.
If it bee not already sent, if it shall come to
your Factory, please dispeed it to mee by
the primo boates. Tis a sad thing to live
thus out of the world as wee doe here that
in 10 Months time wee cannot receive any
thing sent us from our Freinds. I am
afraid the Contents of it (which I yet know
not) are spoiled with so long lying in the
Godownes.*
I would desire you to send mee a good
strong silke bridle, such a one as Mr Read
had once from your Factory, also 2 set of
strings for horse maine[s], handsome colours
(of about 2 rups. ps. each). I have seen them
in Ballasore good ones of the [? finer sort].
Pray send them by the Primo Cossid that
[illegible] they are ready, they being for a
Freind that [? sent a] peon for them and
place their costs to my account. I have
great need of a ps. Mulmull'f and Cossaes
which formerly wrote to you for. I hope
you remember to purchase them for mee.
Pray present my humble service to Mr
Vincent and desire him to send mee 6 or
8 seer of shott of 2 or 3 sorts (if hee has not
disposed of that hee had when I was there),
and what hee shall demand for it please to
satisfie him. Also if you have any store of
English powder by you, please to send mee
4 or 6 Ounces, it being for priming, and you
will much oblige mee. If the money you
have of mine in your hand bee not sufficient
to pay for all these things I write for, let
mee know and I shall order you the Overplus,
or if you shall have occation for any thing
here, shall send it you.
Excuse my being so toedious, it being
seldome I have opportunity of sending to
you, unless will send a [cossid] on purpose,
which you know would cause Crutch. J
Have not more at present save presentation
of my kind respects to your selfe, Mr
Marshal, etca. freinds with you, and subscribe
Your reall freind and servant
SAML: BULLYVASTT
* Godown, a warehouse, probably derived
from Malay gadong, a storeroom, through Tel.
gidangi, Tarn, kidangu, a place where goods lie.
t Malmal, muslin.
{ A dilemma. The more usual spelling of this
obsolete expression is " crotch."
My service to Mr Naylor and Wife,* who
I heare of have a boy. Tell them I wish
them much joy of it.
Pray send mee what newes currantt from
Ballasore or Hugly and let mee know where
Mr Smith is to reside. I heare hee is" for
this place desigened.f If so, pray lett mee
know in your next. You may inquire it as
from your selfe nott mentioning my name.
Mr Carpenter not yet arrived. Idem
S. B.
[Endorsed] For Mr Richard Edwards
Merchant In Cassimbuzar
[Beneath this is written] Sir, pray send a
silke reine, or 2 extraordnary if one should!
breake. S. B.
LETTER XCV.
John Billingsley to Richard Edwards.
(O.C. 3771.)
[John Billingsley, son of John Billingsley, " citizen
and goldsmith, London," was elected writer
on Nov. 13, 1667, and was thus a contemporary
of Edwards in the Company's service. He
sailed in the Unicorn, and arrived in India
on Sept. 10, 1668. From "the Coast" he
proceeded to Bengal, and was employed at the
factories of Hugll and Balasor. On Feb. 9,
1671, he was married at Hugll, but the name
of the bride is not given. In their General
Letter of Dec. 31, 1672, the Bengal Council:
recommended Billingsley for " encourage-
ment " and advancement, he " having now
served your Worships five years in one station
and in this time having taken much paines
in keeping your Registers and other bookes of
accounts." In December, 1676, Billingsley,.
having attained to the rank of " merchant 'r
by nine years' service, signed a bond for 2,0007.,
giving as one security his father John Billingsley
of " Whitechappell." He was now Second at
Balasor, where he had built a house, and no
longer " keept under every favoured of the
great ones," as he complained to Edwards in
1674. But further promotion was denied him,,
for he was one of the earliest victims of the
epidemic of 1677. Administration of his goods
was granted to his father on Sept. 3, 1678.
See ' Court Minutes,' vol. xxva, p. 45, vol. xxvi-
pp. 62, 67, 87, vol. xxxii. p. 73 ; ' Factory
Records,' Hugli, vol. iv., Kasimbazar, vol. i. ;
* Letter Book,' vol. vi. p. 275 ; Harl. MS.
4254, fol. 13 ; ' Diaries of Streynsham
Master,' ed. Temple, vol. ii. pp. 18, 72 ; P.C.C-
Admons.]
* John Naylor, the Company's silk dyer at
Kasimbazar.
t There was no truth in this report, as on
Smith's dismissal from Dacca in Jan., 1673, he-
had been ordered to come to Hugll.
128. V. FEB., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
35
Ballasore the 27th March 1673
Mr Richard Edwards
Esteemed Friend
I crave pardon for my long silence :
it has pleased god to visset mee with a
bluddy flux* ever sence your departure
hence, that hath brought me so weake that
I have not stured out of rny Chamber upperd
of two months. But thanks be to God I am
upon the mending hand.
What newes wee have from the Coast I
liave sent you. Wee and the Dutch have
had a great fight at home, but not much
•dammage don to us but the lost [sic] of the
Ryall James, which was fired, where his
Ryall Hiness was in, but hee made his escape
aboard of another. Wee have taken and
fournt a great many of there ships, which
they were never so rowted befor as they
have beene now.f The french and wee by
land hath taken forty one townes and
eeaven Castels from them, that the states
of Holland are most undon, J and 'tis beleaved
wee shall have sudden newes of peace,
which pray god send.
The Dutch have taken seaven Metchle-
patam boates laden with the Companys
goods going to the Fort, to a great vally.
'They have taken a ship that Mr Lock and
Mr Winter was in [? by] which our friends at
Metchlepatam will have a great loss.§
* Dysentery. See Letter XXVI.
t Billingsley is referring to the battle of
South wold, which took place on May 28, 1672,
when De Ruyter's squadron sailed against the
Duke of York. Both English and Dutch claimed
the victory : the Duke of York because he had
lost only one ship of the line and had destroyed
three of those of his enemies, while the Dutch
posed as conquerors in right of the damage they
had done and of the death of the distinguished
Admiral Lord Sandwich, who, with his two sons,
perished in the flames on the Royal James. It
was, however, the Prince from which the Duke
of York escaped when she was practically wrecked,
"but she was towed to the rear while the Duke,
hidden by smoke, crept out of the cabin window
Into his boat and passed to the St. Michael.
t In 1672 the United Provinces were attacked
on all sides. Louis XIV., then in alliance with
England, collected his forces on the Sambre and
at Sedan, when town after town went down
before them, for the Dutch were utterly un-
prepared for invasion, and the battle of South-
wold was the result of an attempt by De Witt
and De Rnyter to make a second dash at the
Thames and thus pro vent the English and French
from coalescing.
§ In January, 1673 (O.C. 3730, 3742), Agent
William Langhorne reported the loss of three
boats from Masulipatam, laden with calicoes
It is reported they have taken the Com-
panys ships [sic] Returne upon the south
Seas, and 4 of our Europe ships upon the
Coast of Surrat and one ship that belong[s]
to the President that came from Jappari very
richly laden, that the Dutch reports that
her laden [sic] was most Gold. Wee hope
this newes may not bee true.* Wee doe
expect newes every day from Surrat, then
wee shall know the truth of it, which shall
advise you of. Bad times, pray god send
us better. The Mooresf have taken Santa-
may from the french so that they are all
fled.J This is all the newes at present
sturring, so having not more to trouble you
at this time, but with mine arid my wifes
kind respects to your selfe. If you lack any
thing here I am free to serve you, so remaine
Your ever loving Friend to serve you
JOHN BILLINGSLEY
Mr Hall is not gon home, and is a comming
from the Fort to Metchlepatam, if not here
[Endorsed] To Mr Richard Edwards
Merchant In Cassumbuzar
R. C. TEMPLE.
(To be concluded.)
valued at 5800 pagodas, and stated that they
were taken by the Dutch in retaliation for the
seizure of their " Vingerlah Yaucht " (yacht for
Vingurla, near Goa). In February the number
had increased to five (' Factory Records,' Fort
St. George, vol. xvii.), but seven seems to be an
exaggeration. There appears also to be an in-
accuracy as regards the " ship that Mr. Lock
and Mr. Winter was in," for Sir Edward Winter
had already sailed to England in the Bombay
Merchant in January, 1672. Edward Lock, who
was " second to Sir Edward Winter " in 1668, may
have been in the captured vessel, but I have
found no corroboration of the statement.
* This report was only partially correct. The
Return from Japan, which was to have gone to
Surat to be laden for England, was for several
months thought to have fallen into the hands of
the Dutch, but it was subsequently ascertained
that she was left at Taiwan (Formosa) on Nov. 19,
1672, " to stay till the next Monsoon " (Letter
Book, vol. v. p. 63). No ships were taken by
the Dutch off Surat, but the Hannibal and
Experiment were both seized near Malacca.
The Recovery, belonging to Matthew Gray,
President of Surat, escaped the Dutch off Ceylon,
but the Philip and Ann, another privately owned
vessel from Bombay, was, on her return from
Sin in , r.lso taken off Malacca (O.C. 3743, 376).
t Muhammadans.
} The French, who took St. Thom^, near
Madras, in 1672, were repeatedly attacked by
the forces of the King of Golconda, but had not,
at this date, been compelled to relinquish their
conquest.
36
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 8. V. FEB., 191&
FIRST AMERICAN SOLDIERS TO FALL IN THE
GREAT WAR. — They were killed during a
German raid on the trenches at the village
of Bathelemont, twelve miles from Nancy,
one being shot and two stabbed with
poignards. A monument designed by M.
Louis Majorelle commemorates the incident.
A few months ago the U.S. Ambassador
dedicated the monument, the ceremony,
however, taking place at Nancy, as Bathel6-
mont was too hot. A full description of the
ceremony, based on the Ambassador's
report to Washington, appeared in The New
York Herald of Dec. 22, 1918. On one side
of the monument is the legend " Lorraine to
*,he United States." The other side reads : —
Here
in Lorraine territory
repose
the three first
American soldiers
killed by the enemy
on November 3, 1917.
Corporal James B. Gresham
(of Evansville),
Private Thomas F. Enright
(of Pittsburg),
Private Merle D. Hay
(of Clidden).
As worthy sons of their great
and noble nation they have
fought for Justice, Liberty
and Civilization against
German Imperialism,
the scourge of the human race.
They died on the battlefield.
It would be interesting to know the names
of the first British soldiers to fall.
J. M. BULLOCH.
TANKS IN THE GREAT WTAR. — In view of
possible controversy in future years as to the
origin of Tanks, it may be well to preserve in
' N. & Q.' the following cutting from The
Morning Post of Dec. 18, 1918 : —
FACTS ABOUT TANKS. — The origin and evolution
of Tanks have so long puzzled the non-military
mind, which in the mist of many disputants for
the honour of the work could not equitably adjust
the claims, that the information given on a sou-
venir card at a dinner of the Designs Branch of
the Mechanical Warfare (Tanks) Department will
be welcome. The facts were set out thus :
QUESTION. ANSWER.
Who " invented " the No one.
first Tank ?
Who designed the Major Wilson and
first Tank ? Sir William Tritton.
Who originated the Major Wilson, in
all-round track ? August, 1915.
Who built the first Sir W. Tritton, at
Tank ? Foster's, Lincoln.
Who authorized the Mr. Winston
expenditure of public Churchill,
money for the first
Tanks?
QUESTION.
Who suggested the
design of the " Gun
Carrier " ?
Who originally or-
ganized the M.W.D. ?
What firms produced
Tanks in quantities ?
When did they first
go into action ?
Who led them, get-
ting 23 out of 28 " over
the top " ?
Can there be any
finality in design of
these land ships ?
ANSWER.
Major Greg.
Sir A. Stern, K.B.E,
Messrs. Foster, Lin-
coln, and Metropolitan
Co., Birmingham.
September 6, 1916.
Lieut.-Col. Summew,.
D.S.O.
No more than there
can be finality in de-
sign of sea ships.
J. R. H.
TENNYSON AND OPIUM.- — Looking into a
volume of * N. & Q.' of 1895, I have come
across (8 S. vii. 348) this query : —
" Thirty-five years ago, or more, it was
commonly reported that Tennyson was an opium-
eater. Has this ever been confirmed or contra-
dicted ? "
There was one reply (ibid., p. 495) of little
or no value.
The following extracts show what Tenny-
son thought of opium-eating, and go far to
prove that the report was fake. They are
taken from an autograph letter which I
have. It is not dated, but a passage in it
about trouble with his eyesight places the
date, almost certainly, in 1831. The post-
mark (date illegible) is Spilsby. The water-
mark date is 1830. The letter was written
to one of his Cambridge friends, whose name,
though he died many years ago, I suppress.
" Hollo !...., . . . . ! for shame ! what are you
about — musing, & brooding & dreaming & opium-
eating yourself out of this life into the next ?
Awake, arise or be for ever fallen. Shake your-
self you Owl o' the turret you ! come forth you
cat-a-mountain — you shall chew no more cud.
I swear by Spedding's speech & Hallam's essay,,
by the right hand of Tennant & the eyes of
Thompson, by the impetuous pomp of the taller —
& the voluptuous quiverings of the eyeglass of the
smaller — Scotchman, I swear by the mildness of
Heath & the memory of Trench that thou shalt
chew no more cud. What ! is St. Anne dead ?
Is there not cakes & ales ? is there not toddies ? is-
there not bacchies ? is there not pipes ? smoke
negrofoot an thou wilt but in the name of all that
is near & dear unto thee I prythee take no opium —
it were better that a millstone were hung about
thy neck & that thou wert thrown into the
Cam
" I think you mentioned a renewal of your
acquaintance with the fishermen, which may
possibly occur if you will leave off the aforesaid
drug, if you do not I can foresee nothing for you
but stupefaction, aneurism, confusion, horror &
death.
Thine, dear ....
to the end of time
A. T."
12 S. V. FEB., 1919.J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
37
It should be noted that the letter was
written when Tennyson was a young man
of twenty -two to an intimate friend of equal
age.
It may be that the unhappy propensity of
the friend was shifted by rumour to Tenny-
son himself. The preservation of the letter
leads one to believe that it had an effective
influence. ROBERT PIERPOINT.
8 Cleveland Square, W.
DICKENS' s * OUR MUTUAL FRIEND ' : A
TOPOGRAPHICAL SLIP. — Dickens was so
famed for his exact knowledge of London
topography that I was surprised, on re-read-
ing ' Our Mutual Friend ' recently, to come
across what appears to be a departure from
his usual accuracy. In chap, iii., where Mor-
timer and Eugene pay their visit to Jesse
Hexham's abode, we are told concerning the
oab in which they took their journey, " The
wheels rolled on, and rolled down by the
Monument, and by the Tower, and by the
docks, down by Ratclifie and by Rother-
hithe," &c. Rotherhithe is, of course, on
the other side of the river. I do not know
whether this inaccuracy has been noticed
before. F. A. RUSSELL.
HERRICK'S DEBT TO ANDREW WILLET. —
In looking through the commentaries and
* Synopsis Papismi ' of Andrew Willet, it is
-evident to me that the poet Herrick was
familiar with these volumes. Some of
Willet 's quotations from the Fathers and
other writers have been skilfully translated
by the poet into English verse. I could give
many instances, but confine myself to one.
Willet quotes Augustine on predestination :
" Indurare Deus dicitur, quern mollire
noluerit " ; which Herrick translates (' Noble
Numbers,' 250) : —
God's said our hearts to harden then,
Whenas His grace not supples men.
JOSEPH HEALD WARD.
Exmouth.
SHERIDAN ON PUFFS. — It is evident that
Sheridan took some hints for the well-known
passage about puffs in ' The Critic ' from an
Essay on Puffs printed in The London
Magazine for June, 1735, p. 295 ; with a
reference to Grubstreet Journal, June 12,
Bo. 285. If it has not been noticed, the latter
part of it may be worth reproducing : —
" These Puffs may be divided logically into
material and formal, true and false, affirmative
and negative. The material puff differs from the
formal, in that it is not inserted as a Paragraph of
&ews, with the Introduction we hear, or the like ;
but often makes part of an Advertisement, and
sometimes of a Title Page. In the two other
Divisions the Branches are very unequal ; the
false being much more numerous than the true,
and the affirmative than the negative. For tho'
the Generality of puffs are not literally false, they
are expressed so equivocally, that they may be
taken in a double Sense.
" They may be divided mathematically into
direct, oblique, and circular. The direct is thai,
in which the Subject Matter of the puff is related
directly as a Piece of News, of which every
Circumstance makes an essential Part of the
Puff ; as this in Fog's Journal, April 12. ' We
hear, that several Gentlemen from' Rome, Paris,
and other foreign Universities, have been ordered
to send thither an Account of the Disputations of
the Oratory.' In the oblique puff, a Piece of
News is related which seems at first to have no
Tendency to a puff, and yet concludes with some
Circumstance, for the Sake of which alone the
whole was inserted. As when it is said, ' That at
such a Time, in such a Place, such a Person fell
from his Horse, and broke his Leg : which being
set by such a Surgeon, he is in a fair Way of
Recovery.' The circular puff is that which men-
tions nothing directly to recommend either Things
or Persons, and yet is published with no other
View. Such is "that material puff which has
appeared so often in the Form of an Advertise-
ment, * Just published, and given Gratis, Marriage
Ceremonies with a long &c. given Gratis up one
Pair of Stairs, at the Sign of Dr. Chamberlen's
famous Anodyne Necklace, &c.' "
G. E. P. A.
GEORGE STEPNEY AT VIENNA. (See 2 S.
xi. 225 ; 10 S. vii. 8.) — Some new data of
interest in relation to Dr. Edmond Halley's
two missions to Vienna (1702-3) might,
perhaps, be recovered upon examination of
item 8 in Catalogue 114 issued by Mr. P. M.
Barnard of Tunbridge Wells. The item is
described as follows : —
" Austria, Hungary, and the Grand Alliance,
1702-5 and 6. — The Stepney-Cardonnel Corre-
spondence. A collection of 180 official copies of
letters and documents sent during the years
1702-5-6 by George Stepney, British Envoy at
Vienna, to Adam de Cardonnel, secretary to the
Duke of Marlborough from about 1692 throughout
the campaigns to about 1707. 1702-6."
From the notes appended I extract the
ollowing : —
" This is a most remarkable series of letters
which, up to the present, does not appear to have
seen published .... It is doubtful whether there
s another account of these transactions available
n English. . . .The correspondence seems to have
escaped the notice of the Historical Manuscripts
Commission."
Chicago. EUGENE F. McPiKE.
BADULLA, CEYLON : TOMBSTONE INSCRIP-
TION.— An interesting photograph of an
ancient bo tree at Badulla, Ceylon, shows a
tombstone embedded in its trunk. As far
as I can make out, the inscription refers to
Mrs. Sophia Wilson, daughter of the Rev.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 a. V. FEB., 1919.
Battersbee of Stratford-upon-Avon,
and wife of Douglas Wilson, Resident and
Agent, who died at Badulla after three days'
illness on 24 M (?), aged 24 years. I
shall be pleased to send the name of the
publisher of the photograph to any one
interested. J. ARDAGH.
35 Church Avenue, Drumcondra, Dublin.
WK must request correspondents desiring in-
formation on family matters of only private interest
to affix their names and addresses to their queries,
in order that answers may be sent to them direct.
' N. & Q.' : ITS OFFSPRING IN OTHER
COUNTRIES. — Les Notes and Queries m'in-
teressent infmiment, et je d6sirerais beaucoup
savoir s'il existe d'autres revues cogues
dans cet esprit et ayant un programme
analogue. En France je connais depuis
longtemps notre Intermediate des Chercheurs
et des Curieux. Y a-t-il pareilles revues en
Allemagne, aux Etats Unis, au Canada, en
Australie, en Suisse, en Belgique, en
Espagne, &c., et en general dans les pays de
langues anglaise, allemande, ou espagnole ?
Si vous pouviez me renseigner a ce sujet,
je vous en serais tout a fait reconnai^sant.
L. TREICH.
Haute-Loire.
[In 'N. & Q.' for Feb. 10, 1883 (6 S. vii . 105),
mention was marie of French, Spanish, Italian,
Dutch, and American descendants of ' N. & Q.' 5
but we are not aware how many have survived the
vicissitudes of the past four years.]
SAMUEL JOHNSON AND BEN JONSON. — The
reviewer of * Boethius,' &c., in The Times
Literary Supplement of Dec. 26, 1918,
writes : —
" As Johnson would say. vitality sufficient to
preserve them, from putrefaction."
Carlyle (' Past and Present,' book ii.
chap, ii.) says : —
"A certain decree cf s ul, as Ben Jonson
reminds us, is i dispensable to keep the very
body from *:estructi n of the frightfulest sort :
to 'save us,' says he, ' the expense of salt.' "
Will one of your readers kindly supply
references to the original passages ?
J. L.
Edinburgh.
MATTHEW ARNOLD AND " ANGLO-SAXON
CONTAGION." — Matthew Arnold began his
address on Milton in St. Margaret's Church,
Westminster, Feb. 13, 1888 (later printed
in ' Essays in Criticism, Second Series '),
with the words : " The most eloquent voice
of our century uttered, shortly before leaving:
the world, a warning cry against ' the Anglo-
Saxon contagion.' '
To whom does Arnold refer, and to what
passage ? J. P. MALLESON.
[At 11 8. ii. 318, 376, and 438 Emerson, Victor
Hugo, and Coleridge were suggested by different
correspondents as answering to Matthew Arnold's
description ; but no one settled the question by
identifying the quotation. We hope that MB.
MALLESON may be more fortunate.]
MATTHEW ARNOLD : PROVING A NEGATIVE.
— Dr. Saintsbury, ' Peace of the Augustans,'
p. 8, says : —
" It never happened — none of it, as Mr-
Matthew Arnold rashly observed of certain other
transactions, without being able to produce the
slightest evidence to prove the negative," &c.
To what statement in Matthew Arnold does
Prof. Saintsbury allude ? J. L.
" NUNQTJAM MINUS SOLUS QUAM CUM
SOLUS." — I have always heard and read that
this line owes its origin to St. Bernard of
Clairvaux in the tente that the Divine
onmipre.-ence precludes absolute solitude,,
but De Quincey gives it another source and
significance in his ' Brevia,' s.v. * The Latin
Word Felix ' : —
" Whe . Cicero speaks of his nunquam minus
solus Quam cum solus, he is ; n^.ouncinu; what he
feels to b t and knows \vill be, .-.ccepted as a
very extraordinary fact. For even in rure it is
evident that friends made it a duty of friendship
to seek out and relieve their rusticating friends."
If from Cicero, where is this proverb (current
as such) to be found ? Possibly St. Bernard
adopted and adapted it from him.
J. B. McGovERN.
St. Stephen's Rectory, C.-on-M., Manchester.
[King's ' Classical and Foreign Quotations,*
3rd ed., supplies the answer : " 1836. Nunquam
se plus agere quam nihil quum ageret ; nunquam
minus solum esse quam quum solus esset. Cic.
' Rep.' 1. 17, 27 ... .Saying of P. Scipio Africanus,.
quoted by Cato, to whom is also attributed
' Nunquam se minus otiosum esse quam quum
otiosub esset,' in Cic. * Off.' 3, 1, 1."]
BURIAL AT SEA : FOUR GUNS FIRED JFOR
AN OFFICER. — In 1638 Peter Mundy, who
was then a member of Courteen's Association*
was in the ship Sun sailing from Mauritius
to Madagascar. On June 10,
" Mr. Thomas Woollman, our Master, Died*
and was buried in a decentt Manner, with 3 vol-
leies of Smalle shotte and 4 peeces off greatt
ordnance, the even Number oil greatt gunnes
allwaies signifying the Death off some principall
Man or officer in the shippe."
Is Mundy's last assertion correct, and does,
the custom still obtain ? If not, was it
confined to ships of the East India Company
12 S. V. FEE , 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
39
and allied associations, and when was it
discontinued ? I have failed to get any
definite information on the point.
R. C. TEMPLE.
CLAY BALLS AS CHRISTMAS COLLECTING
BOXES. — Peter Mundy, a Cornishman, in
describing some Portuguese sports that he
saw at Macao in 1637, says that the com-
petitors used " little round hollow empty
earthen halffe baked balles .... beeing like
to such as are made For servauntts to gather
Mony att Christmas etts. festi vails."
Can any reader inform me whether such
collecting boxes were peculiar to Cornwall
(Mundy was born at Penryn), and whether
there is any record substantiating Mundy 's
statement ? I have failed to find any trace
of the custom. R. C. TEMPLE.
GOLDSWORTHY AS A PLACE-NAME. — In
continuation of my inquiries regarding the
Gokisworthy family (see 12 S. iv. 185, 228,
258), I am advised that there is also a place-
name " Goldsworthy," and I ask for any
information from your readers on this point.
I shall take pleasure in replying direct.
JOHN GOLDSWORTHY ADAMS.
49 Fort Greene Place, Brooklyn, New York.
[Bartholomew's ' Gazetteer of the British Isles '
states that there is a tithing named Goldsworth
in the parish of Woking, six miles north of
Guildford, in Surrey.]
BOROUGH COURTS : " JUR DE LA VILE."
Can any of your readers inform me what
exactly is meant by " jur de la vile " ?
The phrase occurs in accounts of the legal
procedure of borough courts. A defendant,
unless he is a foreigner, is entitled to an
adjournment to this "town day" after his
appearance to answer his summons. Was it
the 'regular weekly meeting of the borough
court, or has it some special significance ?
J. S. F.
VAUVENARGUES : "LA CLARTE EST LA
BONNE FOI DES PHILOSOPHES."— Schopen-
hauer in his 'Fourfold Root of Sufficient
Reason ' (chap. i. § 3) attributes to Vauve-
nargues the following epigram : " La
clarte est la bonne foi des philosophes."
But I cannot find it in the works of the
Frenchman. Schopenhauer may have com-
pounded it from recollections of nos. 4 and 5
of Vauvenargues' * Reflexions et Maximes ' :
4* « L? clar*e orne les pensees profondes."
5. " L'obscurite est le royaume de 1'erreur."
But, if Schopenhauer really quoted from
Vauvenargues, perhaps some reader can give
the exact reference. W M T
Oxford.
S. T. COLERIDGE ON IMMORTALITY. — The
Rev. Samuel Minton, on the title-page of his
* Unworthy of Eternal Life ' (in reply to
Canon Liddon), quotes from S. T. C. without
a reference : —
" I am confident that the doctrine [of conditional
immortality] would be a far stronger motive than
the present : for, no man will believe eternal
misery of himself, but millions would admit that
if they did not amend their lives they would be
undeserving of living for ever."
Can any reader of * N. & Q.' supply the
reference ? It is probably to some letter or
conversation. I cannot find it in S. T. C.'s
' Works.' W. M. T.
SCOTCH UNIVERSITY GRADUATES. — Are
there any published works dealing with, or
giving lists of, graduates of the Scotch
Universities — Edinburgh, Glasgow, &c. ?
Consett, co. Durham. J' W« FAWCETT.
[The British Museum Catalogue contains the
following works relating to the subject : —
ABERDEEN.
List of persons admitted to the degree of
Master of Arts, in the University and King's
College of Aberdeen, from the year 1800 in-
clusive, pp. 67. Aberdeen, 1866. 8vo.
Lists of officers. University and King's College,
Aberdeen, 1496-1860. By P. J. A[nderson].
pp. 94. [Aberdeen,] University Press, 1893. 4to.
Boll of alumni in Arts of the University and
King's College of Aberdeen, 1596-1860. Edited
by Peter J. Anderson, pp. xiii, 275. 1900. 4to.
EDINBURGH.
A catalogue of the graduates in the faculties
of Art, Divinity, and Law, of the University of
Edinburgh, since its foundation. Edinburgh,
1858. 8vo. [Edited by D. Laing.]
Alphabetical list of graduates. .. .from 1859
to 1888. With historical appendix, pp. 139.
Edinburgh [1889]. 8vo.
List of the graduates in Medicine in the Uni-
versity of Edinburgh from 1705 to 1866. (Alpha-
betical index of names.) 2 pt. Edinburgh,
Neill & Co., 1867. 8vo.
GLASGOW.
A roll of the graduates of the University of
Glasgow from 31st December, 1727. to 31st
December, 1897, with short biographical notes.
By W. Innes Addison. pp. x, 695. Glasgow,
MacLehose & Sons, 1898. 8vo.
The matriculation albums of the University of
Glasgow from 1728 to 1858. Transcribed and
annotated by....W. Innes Addison. pp. xiv,
607. Glasgow, 1913. 4to.
ST. ANDREWS.
Discipulorum nomina in Collegio S. Salvatoris
et Divi Leonard! in Academia Andreana, 1842
1846]. 4 pt. Andreapoli, A. Reid, 1845. 8vo.
The matriculation roll of the University of
Saint Andrews, 1747-1897. Edited, with intro-
duction and index, by James Maitland Anderson.
Edinburgh, 1905 [and later], Blackwood & Sons.
8vo.
There are also some lists of graduates in special
years or subjects.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 8. V. FEB., 1919.
BACK-MAGAZINE DEALERS. — I shall be
grateful if any correspondent will give the
name and address of some " back-magazine "
dealer. Not long ago I went to Paternoster
Row, intending to get certain magazines, if
in stock, from Messrs. Charles Humphreys
& Co., from whom I had bought many at
various times ; but I was told at a shop near
by that Messrs. Humphreys had left, and
my informant did not know their new
address. Of course there are many shops in
London and elsewhere in which ^there are
small or large lots of bygone magazines, but
I know of none now where they are stocked
according to titles and dates.
ROBERT PIERPOINT.
8 Cleveland Square, W.
IONA : ITS ETYMOLOGY. — Can any one
throw light on the origin of the name lona,
applied to the island called, in Irish litera-
ture, " I," and (after the foundation of its
celebrated abbey) " I-colum-kill " (Island
of the Dove of the Church) ? Can lona be a
relic of Ptolemaic geography ?
N. POWLETT, Col.
[Isaac Taylor, ' Names and their Histories,'
1896. says : " It is supposed that lona is a ghost-
name arising out of the misreading of ' lona ' for
* loua ' (' lova '), an adjectival form used by
Adamnan. The island was also called ' Hii,'
* la.' and ' I ' (probably variants of ' lou '),
which, though not found in modern Gaelic, is
supposed to mean ' island,' lona being also called
Icolmkil (' I-cholum-cille '), usually translated
the ' island of Columba's cell.' "]
FOUNDLING ENTRIES IN PARISH REGIS-
TERS.— In the Deane parish register, which
I am editing for publication, occurs a curious
entry of the burial of a foundling on Oct. 8,
1665. It reads as follows : —
"Johannes, quidam alienus, patris, matris et
patriae omnino Ignarus, vulgo vocat : John of
Gods-sending."
The story goes that the boy was found one
summer's morning on the doorstep of the
vicarage, John Angier being the vicar.
Can any readers supply such entries of
foundlings from other parish registers ?
ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
BYRONIC STATUE IN FLEET STREET.— On
193 Fleet Street, the house nearest to the
Law Courts at the junction of Fleet Street
and Chancery Lane, there is a statue with
this inscription from Byron's ' Lara ' : —
They were not common links that form'd the
chain
That bound to Lara Kaled's heart and brain.
Can some one say by whom and why this
was put up ? G. H. CLARKE.
EDWARD INGLEBY'S DESCENDANTS. —
Edward Ingleby of Liverpool and Sheffield
(b. 1782, d. Jan. 31, 1847), fourth son of
Richard Ingleby of Springfield, Holywell, by
his third wife, m. Oct. 18, 1832, Miss Anne
Hardesty, and had issue a son William
(b. Aug. 23, 1841) and five daughters.
Will the descendants of the said William
or of his sisters, or any reader who knows this
branch of the family, kindly communicate
with me ?
CLEMENT INGLEBY, Major R.A.F.
Sedgeford Hall. Norfolk.
CHAPMAN FAMILY OF ORMSLEY, co.
LINCOLN. — Richard Chapman, citizen of
London, living 1704, aged 41 (grandson of
William Chapman of Ormsley, co. Lincoln,
and Catherine his wife, daughter of Robert
Portington, younger brother of Sir Roger
Portington), married Catherine, daughter of
Roger Garnham of Chieveley, Berks, and
had with other issue a daughter Mary, who
married a nephew of the Duke of Chandos.
I should be grateful if any one could tell me
the Christian name and surname of her
husband, and how he was nephew of the
duke. The family of Brydges, Dukes of
Chandos, owned the manor of Shaw, Berks,
until 1709. LEONARD C. PRICE.
BLADES FAMILY OF COVERDALE AND
WENSLEYDALE. — Can any reader state
whether John Blades of Broxwell Hall,
Surrey, was in any way connected with the
Blades family who for several generations
resided at Caldberg in the parish of Coverham,
N.R. Yorkshire ? John Blades was Sheriff
of London in 1812-13, and is said to have
been a native of either Coverham or
Aysgarth. Mr. Ralph Blades of Field
House, Aysgarth, says that John Blades was
a member of his grandfather's family. The
late Sheriff of London, Sir George Blades,
Kt., springs from Wensleydale, and is a
member of the family of the late William
Blades, the well-known author of ' The Life
and Typography of William Caxton,' &c.
The Blades family of Caldberg, Coverham,
was connected with the Chaytors of Scrafton,
Coverdale, and Witton Castle, Durham ; and
the late Lady Storey of Lancaster was a
member of this branch of the Bladeses.
As there is a hamlet called Blades within the
North Riding of Yorkshire, I am inclined to
believe that the Blaydes family of Oulton
House in the same county, and that of High
Paull, Beverley, and Ranby Hall, co.Notting-
ham, were both originally of North Riding
extraction.
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NOTIvS AND QIJKRIKS.
Charles Blades of Caldberg, Coverham,
died in 1742, and was buried at Coverham.
The registers of Coverham Church contain
several entries of marriages of members of
this branch, and one entry describes the
residence as Canonicii House ; and as there
was an Abbey of Coverham, this house may
have formerly been a priests' dwelling.
Baptismal and burial entries also occur.
The local families of Bywell of Aggies
thorpe Hall, Hammond of Coverdale and
Wensleydale, Terry of Aysgarth, and Tuns-
tall of the same parish, were allied to
the family of Blades of Caldberg. It also
appears that this family intermarried with
some French refugees (Huguenots), one of
whom bore the name of Marque&a, and was
a lady of some standing. She married a
Blades of Caldberg, and is said to have been
buried at Coverham. Does anybody know
anything about this lady, and whether the
Blades branch of Caldberg resided at this
place prior to 1710 ?
I am anxious to ascertain where Charles
Blades, who died in 1742, belonged —
whether his father dwelt at Caldberg, or
went there from Colsterdale o.r Wensleydale.
The Dirisdales and the Carters were allied
to the Caldberg branch, and were near
relatives of Lady Storey and her brother, the
late Alderman Charles Blades, J.P., of
Parkfield, Lancaster, and three times Mayor
of Lancaster. Major Walter W. Blades,
D.S.O., of Rutland Lodge, Ruspor, Sussex,
who has been on active service with the
British Expeditionary Force in France, says
that his family were settled at Spalding,
co. Lincoln, but that he had heard his father,
Col. Joel Blades, R.A., speak of Yorkshire
connexions in one of the afore -mentioned
dales. R. E. KELLET RIQBYE.
Trevelyan, Maryport, Cumberland.
RAIN AND MOWING. (See 12 S. iv. 329.) —
In the query on St. Cuthman at the above
reference I observe that there is a tradition
to the effect that when a certain meadow
(Penfold field) at Steyning is mown "rain
follows immediately after." I am interested
in this because there is a field here, known as
Garrett's Close, to which the same tradition
is attached. Every hay-harvest one is sure
to hear the saying bruited about, and some
wiseacre will opine : " Ah, it's sure to be
rain : Garrett's Close is down." The strange
thing is that the prognostication is more
often true than not. I shall be glad to
know of any similar tradition in other
localities. JOHN T. PAGE.
Long Itchington, Warwickshire.
PEWTER PATEN. — I have an antique
French pewter paten marked with a crowned
hammer, above which is almost illegible
lettering, which may be BOUVIET or ROUVIET
(presumably the maker), whilst below is a
word ending .... MECY, the first part
obliterated — possibly the town where the
paten was made. (It is not "Annecy.")
Can any reader kindly enlighten me as to
the name of the maker of this paten ?
ROLAND J. A. SHELLEY.
Denbie House, Formby, Lanes.
THE AINSLIE BOND. — I should feel obliged
if any reader could give me information
regarding the following : (1) When, and how,
was the Sir James Balfour copy of the
" Ainslie Bond " (the bond of the Scottish
nobles for the marriage of Mary Stuart and
Bothwell) discovered ? (2) Does the bond
now exist ? (3) If so, where is it ?
SCOTTISH STUDENT.
SIR SANDERS DTJNCOMBE'S POWDER. —
John Evelyn, when referring to the death of
his mother in 1635, says that when nearly
all hopes of her recovery were given up
" Sir Sanders Duncombe tried his cele-
brated and famous powder." As it appar-
ently had achieved a great reputation, one
is curious to know of what it was com-
pounded. R. B.
NEWTON. — I should be glad to obtain
any information about the following
Newtons, who were educated at West-
minster School : —
(1) Hugh, admitted March 28, 1769.
(2) James, admitted in January, 1743/4,
aged 15.
(3) John, admitted in June, 1732, aged 14.
(4) William, admitted in November, 1731,
aged 10. G. F. R. B.
ROBERT BLAKE, scholar at Westminster
in or about 1744, was buried in the Cloisters
of Westminster Abbey in 1754. What more
is known of him ? Is there any monument
or inscription to him in the Abbey ?
J. W. F.
PARLIAMENTARY BLUE BOOKS, WHITE
PAPERS, &c.— J. W. F.'s inquiry (12 S.
iv. 272), respecting charitable institutions
exempted from Land Tax under 46 Geo. III.
c. 133, and the provision therein that a
return giving particulars of such exemption
was to be made to Parliament, raises a still
larger question. It is this. In modern
practice all such "Returns," &c., are
purchasable by the public as soon as issued,
42
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. V.FBB.. 1919.
but I should like to know whether they are
compulsorily filed and preserved, and, if so,
where. M.P.s must sometimes, and officials
often (one would suppo.se), require to consult
them in reference to proposed legislation.
W. S. B. H.
SIR JOHN LOMBE. — Details invited con-
cerning Sir John Lombe, Bart., a gentleman
apparently of great wealth during the
Napoleonic wars. He enlarged the church
of St. Mary the Virgin at Bylaugh, in
Norfolk, in 1810, and employed Charles
Barry to erect the mansion at Bylaugh Park.
Sir John died May 27, 1817.
J. LAND FE AH LUCAS.
Glendora, Elndhead, Surrey.
[See Burke's 'Landed Gentry,' s.v. Lombe of
Bylaugh.]
PBAGELL FAMILY. (See 8 S. ii. 308;
viii. 315.) — Morant's 'Essex,' vol. i. p. 21,
states that this family had estates in West
Ham and Dagenham in 1553. There are
some memorials to them in West Ham
Church. John Pragell (died 1590) is de-
scribed as Governor of Berwick and Chief
General of H.M. Queen Elizabeth's forces
in the North.
What is the origin of the name ? There
is a river Pregel near Konigsberg, mentioned
in ' Barlasch of the Guard.'
R. J. FYNMORE.
SPURS : FEATHER-NECKS AND ROUGH-
NECKS.— The following passage occurs in
Dr. Robert Plot's * Natural History of
Staffordshire,' pub. 1686, chap. ix. § 79.
Speaking of the number of craftsmen whose
*'joynt concurence " was required in the
production of each spur, he says : —
" There is first the Head or Spurr-maker that
makes the body of the Spurr. . . .and these with
wan-necks, feather-necks, rough-necks."
I shall be glad if any reader of ' N. & Q.'
can furnish me with an authoritative ex-
planation of the last two terms.
CHARLES BEARD.
"CAMOUFLAGE." — In a recent number of
The Catholic Federationist the Bishop of
Salford writes : —
" The one word which more than any other
has forced its triumphant way definitely into our
everyday speech — as well as into those of other
nations — is the French term camouflage. This
word — like the influenza epidemic — may be said
to have spread and sained universal citizenship
in little more than a single week from the time it
first appeared in an American telegram. French
authorities, like Littr£ in his great dictionary,
discuss learnedly its origin. They do not appear
to have noticed that both the noun and its
corresponding verb (camoufer) must almost cer-
tainly be owing to the equivalent Italian words
camuflo and camufiare, with like meanings (said
by Italian scholars to be contracted from capo
niuQare, ' to muffle the head '). We have not
only adopted the noun camouflage, but in our
queer English way have turned it into a verb,
and say ' to camouflage ' a ship, a building, an
opinion, &c."
What was the American telegram to which
the bishop refers ?
JOHN B. WAINE WRIGHT.
EULER ON THE END OF THE WORLD. —
Euler the mathematician (1707-83) is said
to have predicted that the end of the world
\vould take place in a certain year. It is
likely that some reference to the statement
would be found in the letters of Catherine II.
(1729-96) to F. M. Grimm (1723-1807).
Could a reader give some precise informa-
tion ? R« Cr. H.
DEACON IN LOVE. — From Cantihipe's
' Register,' p. 58, we learn that this chantry,
in Kington parish church, Herefordshire, for
the service of Our Lady, was well endowed,
and that Hugh de C'habbenor, Deacon in
love, was admitted to the said church on the
presentation of the religious men. What are
the origin and meaning of " Deacon in
love" ? ('Hist, of Kington,' 1845, p. 82.)
Who was the author of this history ?
M.A.OxoN.
AUTHORS or QUOTATIONS WANTED. — I have
found the following quotations in a manuscript
written about 1620, and preserved in the library
of Trinity College, Dublin, and am anxious to
know their source. 1 have copied them as they
appear in the MS., but think they are probably
misquotations, as I have found several misquotations
from Virgil and the Bible in the same Mb.
1. Exemplo patrum commotus amore legendi |
Jecit ad Hibernos Sophia mirabile claros.
2. Confluxerunt omni parte Europse in Hiberniae
discendi causa tanquam ad mercatusbonariartmm.
3. Flocuerunt sancti in Hibernia quasi Stellae in
caelo, et arenae in littore maris festus (?)
It is stated in the MS. that the last two quota-
tions are from St. Bernard's works, but I have
been unable to find precisely where they occur.
GEORGE 0 BRTEN.
40 Northumberland Rond, Dublin.
4. Who is the author of the following lines, which
are found upon an old picture ?
NIGHT.
Ncm nature sleeps. The silver Queen of Night
Wide o'or the landscape sheds reflected light ;
,cwt>et thoughts of love th' enchanting scenes
inspire,
And ev'ry bosom melts with soft desire.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
43
COL. A. R. MACDONELL'S DUEL WITH
NORMAN MACLEOD.
(12 S. v. 9.)
IT is rather a remarkable circumstance
that, with one exception, none of th
standard works on duelling make an'
mention of this affair, notwithstanding
the fact that one of the principals was
chief of an important clan, and was triec
and acquitted on the charge of murder
No allusion to it will be found in Douglas's
Duelling Days in the Army,' in Steinmetz's
Romance of Duelling,' or in Thimm's
' Biography of Fencing and Duelling '
nor is it included in a long list of duels in
' Haydn's Dictionary of Dates,' or recorder
in the pages of 'The Annual Register.'
The sole exception, so far as I have bee
able to discover, is a brief reference to the
incident in Sabine's 'Notes on Duels and
Duelling,' which, beyond stating that the
combat took place in Scotland, does not
-even mention the date. This book has long
been out of print, and is not to be found even
in the British Museum Library. In these
circumstances I may perhaps be pardoned for
giving the particulars in some detail, as they
will doubtless be read with interest by others
as well as R. M. H.
In the first place, the duel did not take
place at Fort William, but on the beach
between Fort George and Ardersier, in 1798 ;
and Macdonell was tried for murder, not at
Inverness, but at Edinburgh, where he was
remarkably ably defended by Henry Erskine,
the Lord Advocate.
Macdonell of Glengarry was a great friend
of Sir Walter Scott, who is supposed to have
taken him as a model for Fergus M'lvor in
'Waverley.' He was dictatorial, violent-
tempered, but generous and kind-hearted
withal. Scott's estimate of him will be
found in his diary in Lockhart's 'Life.'
However, to come to his quarrel with Lieut.
MacLeod of the 42nd Highlanders. In
1798, at a military ball at Inverness,
Macdonell approached a Miss Forbes of
Culloden— afterwards Mrs. Duff of Muir-
town — reminding her that she had promised
him the last country dance. She had no
recollection of such promise, and told the
-colonel that she was engaged for it to another
man. Macdonell, however, was not dis-
posed to yield, and continued to press his
claim, when Lieut. MacLeod, who was
sitting by Miss Forbes, remarked, " Why do
you tease the lady ? Can't you allow her
to choose for herself ? " On that Macdonell
transferred his attention to MacLeod. Later
in the evening, in the messroom of the 79th,
high words passed between them, which
ended by Macdonell striking MacLeod over
the head with his cane and kicking him.
MacLeod, who was a grandson of Flora
MacDonald, and quite a youth at the time,
promptly drew his dirk, but before he could
retaliate they were separated. A challenge
of course followed. At the first shot Mac-
Leod fell, and died a few days later.
Macdonell had offered to apologize, but
MacLeod refused to accept it unless the
chief consented to give up the cane with
which he had. struck him, to be used as
MacLeod thought fit. To this condition
Macdonell declined to assent. He was tried
for murder at Edinburgh, and only the skill
and eloquence of his counsel,' Erskine,
secured his acquittal, though the jury added
a rider to their verdict highly disapproving of
Macdonell's conduct at the "beginning of the
affair.
What Henry Erskine thought of Mac-
donell may be judged by the fact that he
refused to accept an invitation to a banquet
given by the chief's friends in honour of his
acquittal, on the ground that " his admira-
ion of the part played by his client in the
ate tragedy was not sufficiently strong to
admit of his being present."
WlLLOTJGHBY MAYCOCK.
Col. Macdonell's duel is briefly mentioned
n Mackenzie's ' History of the Macdonalds,'
>. 358, and in ' The Clan Donald,' by the
ilev. A. Macdonald, vol. ii. p. 484. A full
eport appears in The Scots Magazine for
.798, pp. 646 seq. The trial took place on
Aug. 7, 1798, at Edinburgh (not Inverness,
as stated by Mackenzie), before Lord
SCskgrove and a jury. Lord Advocate
Robert Dundas appeared for the Crovi n, and
he Hon. Henry Erskine was leading counsel
or the panel. The indictment -was for the
nurder of Lieut. Norman Macleod of the
2nd Regiment by shooting him with a
istol in a duel near Fort George on May 3,
798. Macleod died of the wound on
une 3.
Mrs. Duff (formerly Miss Forbes of
iulloden) gave evidence that she was at a
all at Inverness on May 1, that she was
ngaged to dance a particular dance with a
[r. Ranald M'Donald, and that Glengarry
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12!S. V.FEB, I9J9.
(A. R. Macdonell) claimed the dance. She
finally said she would dance with neither of
them. Macleod, who was standing near,
told Glengarry not to tease her, and she
danced with him and then left the ball.
Other witnesses deponed that Glengarry
and Macleod then met in the messroom of
the 79th Regiment, and in the course of a
quarrel Glengarry struck Macleod with a
stick and kicked him. Macleod immediately
sent a challenge to Glengarry ; and when
the parties met, Glengarry's seconds offered
an apology, which Macleod refused to accept,
as Glengarry would not hand over the stick
with which he had struck him. Glengarry's
ball passed through Macleod' s right armpit
into his back. The wound was thought at
the time not to be serious ; the principals
shook hands, and mutually apologized.
The jury returned a verdict of " not guilty,"
and expressly stated that they based their
verdict on the fact that Glengarry had offered
an apology before the duel.
JOHN A. INGLIS.
[G. thanked for reply.]
HAMPSHIRE CHURCH BELLS.
(12 S. iv. 188, 341.)
MUCH speculative interest has been aroused
in the minds of many campanologists by the
mystery which still shrouds the personality
of two bell -founders whose initials, " R. B."
and "I. H.," appear inscribed on many
Hampshire bells. The queries arise, Who'
were they, and where were their foundries
located ?
The writer of the all too brief notes on
Hampshire church bells in the Victoria
County History alludes to R. B. as " an
unknown founder " or "a founder R. B.,"
and to a bell as " having the founder's
initials R. B." There are some twenty-three
bells in the county cast by this founder in the
interval 1595-1622, seven of the series being
in the Isle of Wight.
The simple epigraph " God be our guyd "
is inscribed on eight of the bells, " Geve God
the glory " on three, " In God is my hope "
on a like number ; " Geve thanks to God "
appears on two, whilst " Love God " and
" I live in hope " are inscribed on single bells.
The remaining five have the initials with the
date of casting only.
Another R. B., but not a church bell, is
located in the westernmost of the six em-
brasures on the south side of the ancient
Bargate at Southampton. The bell is
referred to by the Rev. Silvester Davies in
his history of that town as
" one of three or four bells at different stations,
which answered one another in ringing the
watches or sounding alarms. The present boll
bears the inscription ' In God is my hope B. B.,*
with the date 1605."
Mr. H. B. Walters, 'Church Bells of
England' (1912), writes, on p. 220: —
" The post-Reformation foundries in Sussex
and Hants are of little importance. Many bells
in Hants, between 1571 and 1624, bear the initials,
of an unknown ' B. B.,' and others, between 1616
and 1652. those of I. H."
He adds : " Both men were probably resident
at Winchester or Southampton."
From the dates an inference may be
drawn that two distinct series of bells have
been cast by founders whose identity has been
hidden under the R. B. initials ; indeed, such
would almost seem to have been the case.
Dr. Amherst D. Tyssen, ' Church Bells of
Sussex ' (ed. 1915), writes : —
" The early Elizabethan bells are still involved
in mystery. .. .nor do we know what name is.
indicated by the initials B. B. which occur on five
bells in Sussex, dated 1571 and 1572. Mr. Cocks
(' Bucks,' p. 195) and Mr. North (' Butland,*
p. 48) give an account of a bell-founder named
Bichard Benetly or Bentley, who was living at
this time ; but his work is very different from the
B. B. bells of Sussex. I have notes of nine bells,
in the south of Hampshire, and six more in the
Isle of Wight, ranging from 1598 to 1614, bearing
the initials of B. B., but these have fuller inscrip-
tions than our Sussex B. B. bells, besides being;
somewhat later."
Mr. North, ' Church Bells of Northampton-
shire ' (1878), also alludes to Richard
Benetlye : —
" At Passenham hangs a bell — the fourth —
inscribed : —
-f A + TRVSTY + FRENDE -f IS + H ARDE -f TO -f FYNDB
+ 1585.
The initial cross [fig. given] is also placed as a stop
between each word. The founder of this bell I
trace by the same initial cross and form of letter —
which is a large semi-Gothic-Boman one — being-
found upon the third ^bell at Seaton, Butland^
which is inscribed : —
-f RYECHARDE BENETLYE BELLFOVNDDER
It is worthy of notice," Mr. North adds, " how
these bells help to explain each other : the one
gives the founder's name, the other his date..
The location of his foundry has still to be learned.'*
Mr. H. B. Walters, 'Church Bells of
England' (1912), in the chapter on 'Post-
Reformation Foundries ' refers to one at
Colchester, and names Richard Bowler, the-
originator of the foundry, as casting bells
there between 158? and 1604 — a man of some
artistic taste who used ornamental Gothia
12 8. V. FEB., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
45
letters and decorative borders. His bells,
however, are found only in Suffolk, Essex,
No bells cast by him ar
" It will be noticed tha
the inscriptions on his bells differ from those
/» T"k T> 5 *
and Cambridge,
found in Hants.
of R. B.
In a paper read before the Hampshire
Field Club in the autumn of 1892, and
Tevised by the author in 1901, the Rev
G. E. Jeans, Vicar of Shorwell, refers to two
R. B. bells in the tower of St. Peter's Church
there, and — in a parenthesis — says : " R. B
is Robert Bond, a bell -founder at Win
Chester." The learned vicar, in replying to
a query of mine in November, 1918, writes : —
" I think indications strongly point to the
Bonds having a foundry at Winchester. In
North's ' Church Bells of Lincolnshire ' (p. 141)
you will find that the priest's small bell at Bin-
"brook St. Mary and the one bell at Croxby have
•^" W. ^* North says he does not know this
founder. The W I suppose is for Winchester.
Between the R and the B, and above the
W, is a bell.
Further references to the Bond family are
iound in Mr. Percy G. Stone's * Architectural
Antiquities in the Isle of Wight.' In com-
menting on a bell at Newchurch, cast by
Anthony Bond in 1626, he adds in a foot-
note :—
" The family of Bond were bell -founders in the
first half of the seventeenth century, and bells
made by them exist in many of the churches
t>oth on the Hampshire mainland and in the Isle
of Wight."
Referring to the second (now the tenor) bell
at Chale Church, Mr. Stone writes : "A
seventeenth -century bell from the Bonds'
foundry has round it the lettering : ANTHONY .
BOND . MADE . ME . 1628 . W.B . RT." In
alluding to a bell located at Brading, Mr.
Stone states :
on bells with
The initials 'A. W.' appear
R. B.,' as in the church of
St. John Baptist, Winchester." The Salis-
bury foundry, he adds, generally produced
short religious mottoes such as " Prais the
Lord," found on the Brading bell. Lukis,
* Bell Inscriptions,' p. 76, gives the inscrip-
tion on the Winchester bell — the fourth bell
• — GOD is MY HOPE B.B. 1606, and, following
the date, A. W : I. W. (The initials after
the date may refer to the wardens.)
Dr. Amherst D. Tyssen likewise alludes to
the Brading bell and the A. W. initials in his
' Sussex Church Bells ' : —
" The initials A. W. on eight bells in Sussex
stand for Anthony Wakefield, a bell-founder at
»Chichester, who was casting bells in 1694-1605.
His Sussex bells have the epigraph PRAIS THE
XORD with the date inscribed on three, and PRAIS
-•GOD on four of the series. Anthony Wakefield
may be credited with the fourth bell at Brading,
in the Isle of Wight, which bears PR is THE LORD
1694, and the initials A. W. with many other
initials.
" In the latter part of the sixteenth and first
half of the seventeenth centuries, much of the
work in Hants and Sussex was done by itinerant
founders. In South Hants and Dorset we find
bells by Anthony Bond (1615-1636)."
In Hampshire the Anthony Bond bells are
few in number. One of 1623 date is at North
Stoneham ; and four (of the peal of five) at
St. Lawrence, Winchester, were cast by him
in 1621. Two of his bells located in the
Isle of Wight have already been commented
on. The epigraphs on his bells are in
striking contrast to the short devotional
inscriptions on the R. B. bells.
Canon Raven, * The Bells of England,'
writes : —
" Anthony Bond recast the great tenor at
Wimborne Minster, Dorset, in 1629, placing on it
his monogram PER A.B ANNO DOMINI 1629, and
after the churchwardens' names a shield bearing
a chevron and three mullets " —
a founder's mark not discovered on any other
bells cast by him.
In reply to a query, Mr. A. Heneage Cocks
wrote in May, 1918 : —
I can add nothing further concerning the
identity or locality of R. B. I have again men-
tioned him in both my papers on local bell-
foundries in the Victoria History of Bucks and
Berks. .. .Mr. Walters is the best chance, but I
have looked up his ' Essex Bells,' and R. B. is
not mentioned there. As to the foundries,
Salisbury and Winchester are likely guesses, but,
so far as I know, are merely guesses. I am rather
a believer in geographical distribution for spotting
early bells and even as late as R. B. If you take
;he centre of the sixteen bells you know of in the
county, and find it is near either of those cities,
-hough it will not prove the point, it will certainly
carry weight : or it may point to some smaller
place where there was a foundry."
On another occasion Mr. Cocks remarked : —
" I did a good deal of hunting into the Winches-
ter archives in pursuit of bell -foundries, but quite
unsuccessfully .... I am not aware that any one
has done Salisbury."
In regard to the possibility of the foundry
being located at Salisbury, Lukis, in his
' Wiltshire Bell Inscriptions,' pp. 99-130,
mentions no bell of the 729 in that county
as being cast by either R. B. or Anthony
Bond.
Dr. Tyssen wrote to me recently concern-
ing the former : —
" I see no grounds for connecting R. B. with
Anthony Bond. The latter was an itinerant bell-
founder from London, and the fact of the Chale
bell having, according to oral tradition, been cast
locally, strengthens the supposition."
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 8. V. FEB., 1919.
" Having regard to the wide geographical
distribution of bells marked with the R. B.
initials," my friend Mr. W. J. Parkinson
Smith remarks that " to have cast bells so
far distant, and in so many counties, one
naturally conjectures that the foundry of
Bond must have been widely known."
In conclusion, no documentary evidence
has so far been cited to support the conjecture
of family relationship or of business associa-
tions existing between R. B. and Anthony
Bond, beyond the continuity in dates, the
R. B. bells covering the period from 1595 to
1614, and those cast by Anthony Bond from
1615 to 1629.
Respecting the other unidentified bell-
founder, "I. H.," whose initials are found
on some seventeen bells in Hampshire, the
writer of the notes on Hampshire church
bells alludes to the bells as inscribed with
" the founder's initials I. H.," or " by an
uncertain founder I. H., whose bells are
common in the district," and " by the
unidentified founder I. H. (possibly John
Higden)." These bells range over the period
1610—52. One of the earliest cast by him is
the tenor, dated 1610, at Hinton Ampner,
Hants ; possibly his latest, of 1652, is located
at Bursledon in the same county.
Mr. Walters in his ' Bells of England '
(1912), referring to this unknown founder,
conjectures the initials may be those of John
Higden, foreman to Joseph Carter, a success-
ful bell-founder at Reading (1578-1606).
In his will, bearing date 1609, Carter refers
to John Higden as " his servant," leaving
him a small legacy.
It is probable that Higden set up a foundry
in Hants, possibly at Winchester or South
ampton. By some means or other he
obtained possession (or at least had the use
of many ancient letters and stamps used bj
Carter. His inscriptions are generally in
black-letter, but other lettering is used. A
Martyr Worthy the second bell, of date 1632
has the legend " In God is my hope " in
small black letters, while the tenor bell, o
1631, has the same epigraph in Gothi
capitals. Higden was fond of reproducing
mediaeval stamps such as the Wokingham
" R. L." shield, as, for instance, on the fiftl
bell at Owslebury, of date 1622. Thirteen
of Higden' s bells bear the epigraph " In Go(
is my hope " ; on two " God be our guyd '
is inscribed ; while two of 1615 and 165
have merely the initials and date of casting
JOHN L. WHITEHEAD.
Ventnor.
CHRISTMAS VERSES AT SHEFFIELD*.
(12 S. iv. 324.)
IY note in * N. & Q.' for December last has
>rought me two interesting letters from
;entlemen whose acquaintance with Sheffield
ustoms goes back much further than mine.
Mr. George Denton, of 6 Riverdale Road,,
Sheffield, writes : —
" The lines you quote are, I think, a mixture
f two old songs — one a Christmas song, the other
, New Year or Wassail song. As I remember
hem when I was a boy, they were quite distinct,
t of the lines you quote are quite familiar to
me, though some are not. I do not think that
Plenty of money and nothing to fear
and
Ladies and gentlemen who sit at your ease
>elong to the version I remember.
" Of the Christmas song, I only recall the first
erse : —
! wish you a merry Christmas and a happy New
Year,
A pocket full of money and a cellar full of beer.
An apple, a pear, a plum, and a cherry,
And a sup of good ale to make a man merry.
1 The New Year song I remember better : —
1.
We've been a while a-wandering
Among the fields so green,
And now we've come a-wassailing
As plainly to be seen.
Our jolly wassail, our jolly wassail !
Love and joy come to you, and to our wassail too-
far " boo "=bough),
And God bless you and send you a happy New
Year.
A New Year I a New Year 1
God bless you and send you a happy New Year I
Pray God send you (repeated three tones)
A happy New Year !
2.
We're not the daily beggars
That beg from door to door ;
We are your neighbours' children
Whom you have seen before.
(Chorus) Our jolly wassail, &c.
3.
We've got a little purse
All made of rabbit skin,
And we want a little sixpence
To line it well within.
(Chorus.)
4.
Bring us out the table,
Bring us out the cloth,
Bring us out the bread and cheese
For our Christmas box !
(Chorus.)
5.
God bless the master of this house,
And bless the mistress too !
God bless the little children
That round the table go 1 ?
(Chorus.)
12 8. V. FEB., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
47
" I remember the tune, a very simple one, and
I think I could transcribe it if you care to have it.
" The modern boy has in Sheffield, at any rate,
forgotten the air, and more of the words. His
version of the refrain runs like this : —
Aar Johnny Wesley — aar Johnny Wesley,
Luv and joy kum to you and to aar Wesley too,
An* God bless you and send you a 'appy Noo Year
" There is a version of this song in ' A Garland
of Christmas Carols,' edited by Joshua Sylvester,
and published in 1861. This is also given in
Chambers's ' Book of Days,' and was printed by
' N. & Q.' in an early number."
The Rev. Carus Vale Collier, of Langton
Rectory, Malton, Yorks, writes : —
" Your note in 'IS. & Q.' relating to the words
spoken by Sheffield children at Christmastime
interested me very much, and I am pleased to
see that they still keep up the custom. No
children in this part seem to come at all at
Christmastime with their greetings. I enclose
three versions of Sheffield greetings of about 1870.
I wrote them down many years ago. One version
is spoken, the other two sung to quite nice old
tunes. When I was a boy at home in Sheffield
tho first boy that came to the house on Christmas
morning was asked to come inside, stand at the
bottom of the stairs, and shout or sing his
greeting as loud as he could. He then was given
some piece of money as a Christmas box.
" The words of one song were as follows : —
We wish a merrv Christmas,
A happy New Year,
A pocket full o' money
And a cellar full o' beer.
Pray God bless you,
Pray God bless you,
Pray God bless you,
Pray God send you a happy New Year !
We've been awhile a-wandering
Among the leaves so green,
But now we've come a-wassailing,
A penny to be seen.
Pray God bless you, &c.
We are not daily beggars
That beg from door to door ;
We are your neighbours' children
Whom you have seen before.
Pray God bless you, &c.
The road is very dirty,
Our shoes are very thin ;
We have a little pocket
To put a penny in.
Pray God bless you, &c.
" The other song ran : —
Our jolly wassail,
Our jolly wassail !
Love and joy come to you,
And to our wassail bow (or bowl).
Pray God bless you,
And send you a happy New Year !
A New Year !
A New Year !
I've been a while a-wandering
Among the leaves so green,
But now I've come a-wassailing,
A penny to be seen.
Bring us out the table,
Bring us out the cloth,
Bring us out the bread and cheese
All for a Christmas box I
I have a little purse
Lined with leather skin,
And I want a little sixpence
To line it well within.
Our jolly wassail,
Our jolly wassail !
Love and joy come to you,
And to our wassail bow !
Pray God bless you,
And send you a happy New Year.
11 Before I left Sheffield in 1892 • Our jolly
wassail ' had become ' Our Johnny Wesley.'
" The following greeting was spoken : —
I wish a merry Christmas, a happy New Year,
A pocket full o' money and a cellar full 6' beer,
An apple and a pear, a plum and a cherry,
A sup o' good ale to make a man merry.
God bless the master of this house, the missis also,.
Likewise the little children that round the table go-
I neither come to your house to beg nor to borrow,.
Btit I come to your house to drive away all sorrow.,
A horse and a gig, and a good fat pig
To kill next year.
Sometimes was added : —
Ladies and gentlemen, sit down at your ease.
Put your hands in your pockets and give what
you please."
G. C. MOORE SMITH.
Sheffield.
NAPOLEON AND LORD JOHN RUSSELL.
(12 S. v. 12).— MR. LANDFEAR LUCAS will
find a full account of Lord John Russell's
visit to Napoleon at Elba in Spencer
Walpole's Life of that statesman, published,
in 1889. The visit would appear to have
been of an entirely private and unofficial
character. Lord John was travelling in
Italy, and, being at Leghorn, crossed over to
Elba and spent a couple of days at Porto
Ferrajo. He visited Napoleon's palace ak
8 in the evening of Dec. 24, 1814, and
remained about an hour and a half with the-
Emperor. He made a long entry in his
diary the following day, consisting in the
main of a description of the Emperor's
personal appearance and manners. More-
than fifty years afterwards (viz., in Novem-
ber, 1868) Lord John wrote to Mr. Van de
Weyer an account (which was privately
printed) of his interview with Napoleon.
They conversed on many subjects — the
Russell family, Lord John's own allowance
from the Duke of Bedford, the state of Spain,
and Italy, the character of the Duke of
Wellington, and. the arrangements likely to-
be made at Vienna for the pacification of
Europe. Lord John in his old age u&ed to*
say that as the Emperor became interested
48
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 a. V. FEB., 1919.
in his conversation, he fell into the singular
habit which he had acquired, and pulled him
by the ear.
After his brief stay in Elba Lord John
continued his tour to Civita Vecchia and
Rome. WILLOUGHBY MAYCOCK.
Lord John Russell went to Italy in
December, 1814, for the sake of his health.
Being there, he was doubtless attracted to
Elba by a young man's curiosity. I believe
that the fullest account of his interview with
Napoleon will be found in Mr. Stuart J.
Reid's 'Lord John Russell,' 1895, p. 28
("The Prime Ministers of Queen Victoria"
series). DAVID SALMON.
Swansea.
[MB. W. A. HUTCHISON and MR. A. S. WHIT-
FIELD also thanked for replies.]
"SONS OF ICHWE " (12 S. iv. 216).— Is
not " Sons of Ichwe " in Prince Lichnow-
sky's memoirs a misprint for sons of Jahveh
or lahve, the modern way of writing
Jehovah ? The explanation of the reference
is to be found in Prof. Cramb's lectures on
* Germany and England,' which attracted so
much attention at the beginning of the
War. In describing " the faith of Young
Germany in 1913 " he quotes a passage from
Nietzsche which ends thus : " Blessed are
the war-makers, for they shall be called, if
not the children of Jahve, the children of
Odin, who is greater than Jahve." What
the Prince evidently meant was that the
future of the world is not with the war-
makers, the children of Odin, but with the
children of Jahve, the God of righteousness
and peace — a prediction which recent events
have proved is likely to come true.
E. MONTEITH MACPHAIL.
Madras.
DEVILS BLOWING HORNS OB TRUMPETS
(12 S. iv. 134, 201, 308).— In the course of
his most interesting and valuable reply
H. C. raises two points which call for par-
ticular comment.
The first is whether Betton & Evans's
copy of the original glazing of Winchester
College Chapel can be relied upon. I am of
opinion that, on the whole, it can be, and
that it is really a painstaking and careful
copy (for its date, 1822-8) of the original.
The removal and destruction of Wyke-
ham's splendid glass, followed by the sub-
stitution of a modern copy, was, of course,
absolutely indefensible, but it seems to
have been Messrs. Betton & Evans's idea of
restoration. The same firm "restored"
the east window of Ludlow Church, the glass
of which, representing the life and martyr-
dom of St. Laurence, was given by Bishop
Spoford of Hereford about 144f> (see ' Ancient
Painted Glass in England,' by Dr. Philip
Nelson). The " restoration " was carried
out in much the same manner as at Win-
chester, with the result that very little of the
original glass remains.
The present glazing of Winchester College
Chapel retains so many typically mediaeval
ideas that it is impossible not to believe
that Betton & Evans made a close copy of
the glass they were supposed to restore.
Archaeological knowledge was at a low ebb
in the early nineteenth century, and it is
difficult to think that some of the details
of costume and armour (such as the camel's
skull attached to the robe of St. John
Baptist, the various ecclesiastical vestments
of the bishops and deacons, the demon
blowing a horn, and the pilgrim's robe or
" slavyn " worn by St. James the Great,
to quote but a few instances) could have
been intimately known to the glass-painters
of that period. It is true that the general
details of the Winchester ' Last Judgment '
agree more or less closely with others both
of this and of a later period. The yawning
hellmouth, shown here as blue with a red
eye, may be compared with those in the
wall paintings at South Leigh, Oxfordshire,
and at St. Thomas's Church, Salisbury ;
also with that depicted in the panel painting
at Wenhaston Church, Suffolk. It is in-
teresting to note that the last-named
example has a similar detail to that at
Winchester College, namely, a demon seated
upon the upper lip, blowing upon a trumpet-
like instrument.
The second point of interest — whether
most, if not all, of the souls depicted in the
Winchester College ' Last Judgment ' were
intended to represent particular personages
— is more open to question. Figures of
kings, bishops, and Popes, among both the
saved and the lost, are to be found in
practically every mediaeval representation
of this subject. They are simply accessory
details. The artist wished to show that no
evildoer, however high he or she might
rank in this world, could hope to escape
God's final judgment and punishment in
the life to come. Hence certain figures are
distinguished by their headgear — the only
thing about them by which they can be
identified. Examples of these representa-
tions of kings and ecclesiastics may be cited
indefinitely ; a few will suffice here.
At Fairford, in the great west window
which contains perhaps the finest repre-
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
49
sentation of a Last Judgment in English
mediaeval art, the figures of a Pope, two
kings, and a monk may be noted among the
saved.
At Ticehurst in Sussex are some remains
of a Judgment window, circa 1460, in-
cluding
" a cart filled with the damned to the number
o ften : one wears a conical tiara ; another is
crowned, drawn along by an apelike fiend, whilst
another fiend of evil aspect assists by pushing
behind ; to left of this is a group of four figures
rising from the grave, one of whom is tonsured,
and at whom a third devil leers." — Nelson,
' Ancient Painted Glass in England,' p. 199.
Again, in the wall paintings formerly in
the church of St. John-in-the-Soke, Win-
chester, was one depicting the General
Resurrection and Last Judgment, wherein
the figures of two bishops, a king, and a
queen are included, together with other
figures of no indicated rank ; whilst the
Wenhaston Doom panel before referred to
depicts a king, a bishop, and a cardinal
amongst the saved souls. In none of the
above-mentioned instances is there the
slightest indication that the artist intended
to portray any particular personage.
There are, however, two instances wherein
a mediaeval artist seems to have had some
particular evildoer in his mind. The first
and more noteworthy example appears in
the much - restored fifteenth - century wall
painting of the Last Judgment in St.
Thomas's Church, Salisbury. Amongst the
figures of the lost is one of a woman wearing
a butterfly headdress, and clad in red,
holding out a pewter pot or black-jack, and
being carried or supported by a hideous
demon. It is possible that this unfortunate
woman represents some cheating ale-wife
in the town, who, having incurred the
wrath of the artists by giving them short
measure, was depicted thus as a warning
to similar evildoers.
The second instance is at Fairford,
although not actually in the Judgment
window. The four windows of the north-
nave clerestory are filled with the figures
of twelve notable persecutors, either of
Christ or of the early Christian Church.
These figures include Caiaphas, Judas Is-
cariot with a bag purse, Herod with an
infant impaled upon his sword, Diocletian,
and Nero. The military persecutors are
all clad in richly coloured robes over their
armour. In the smaller tracery openings
are hideous demons, two above every figure
(' Fairford Church and its Celebrated Win-
dows,' by H. W. Taunt).
H. C. remarks that one of the saved in
the Winchester College ' Judgment ' is a
bishop, and that he undoubtedly represents
William of Wykeham. Certainly the face
of this figure does bear a strong resemblance
to the two portraits of Wykeham in the
lowest part of the window ; but this resem-
blance seems to be due as much to the type
of face portrayed by Thomas of Oxford
and his craftsmen — a type clearly shown
even in Betton & Evans's copy — as to any-
thing else. JOHN D. LE COUTEUR.
Southsea.
* ANTHOLOGIA GR^ECA' : EPICTETUS (12 S-
v. 10). — (6) The lines said to be translated
from Epictetus are a rendering of four Greek:
iambics quoted in Epictetus's ' Enchiridion,'
ch. 52 (53). That their author was Cleanthes^
the Stoic philosopher, we learn from Seneca,
who gives a Latin version of them, ' Epistles,*
107, 10 sq.
The line with which Seneca concludes is-
frequently quoted,
Ducunt volentem fata, nolentem trahunt.
But there is nothing corresponding to it in
the Greek original as we know it.
EDWARD BENSLY.
The Greek lines inquired for by
H. K. ST. J. S. will be found in the ' En-
chiridion ' of Epictetus, c. 53. It seems that
Epictetus attributed them to Cleanthes ;
but of the six lines, the fifth and sixth are
from Euripides. See No. 956 in Nauck's
edition of the fragments of Euripides
(Teubner, 1885). E. LITTOW.
[MB. C. B. WHEELER also thanked for reply.]
WYBORNE FAMILY OF ELMSTONE, KENT
(12 S. iv. 130, 254).— One Joseph Wiborne-
went up to Trinity, Cambridge, from
St. Paul's School in 1602. In the Trinity
Registers he is entered as a scholar on the
Westminster election : B.A. 1602-3 ; M.A.
1606. In the Registers of St. Paul's School
it is recorded that he received a grant of 5Z.
on April 15, 1602, a "benevolence" of the
same sum in 1604-5, and 31. 6s. 8d. towards
commencement in 1605-6. I shall be glad
to receive further information concerning'
him. MICHAEL F. J. MCDONNELL.
Bathurst, Gambia, British West Africa.
" JOHN ROBERTSON," A PSEUDONYMOUS
NINETEENTH -CENTURY POET (12 S. iv. 185).
— I inquired at the above reference a.s to the
authorship of ' The Prinoo of Orange in 1672,'
included in Trench's ' Household Book of
English Poetry,' and taken by him from a
small volume published in 1859 by "John
50
NOTES AND QUERIES. [i2s.v. FEB., 1919.
Robertson." I have now discovered that
the pseudonymous author was John Robert
Seeley. See the admirable memoir prefixed
by Mr. G. W. Prothero to Seeley' s * Growth
of British Policy ' (1895), and the notice of
Seeley, also by Mr. Prothero, in the ' D.N.B.'
CHARLES LLEWELYN DAVIES.
10 Lupus Street, Pimlico, S.W.I.
CREST ON CHURCH PLATE (12 S. iv. 331). —
What are the articles about which the REV.
A. B. MILNER inquires ? It is unusual to
find ecclesiastical plate bearing a crest
unless, as occasionally happens, a secular piece
has been willed or presented by the owner
to a local church. F. BRADBURY.
PATEN OR SALVER ? (12 S. v. 13.) — The
paten which is used at the Sacrament was
in the Queen Anne period also in use as a
salver for household purposes, and patens
are still to be found in the plate-chests of
old families bearing crests, with coat of arms
in the centre. The one referred to by Miss
SHARLAND, bearing a coat of arms, was
obviously intended for domestic purposes.
Instances of consecrated church plate subse-
quently adapted for household purposes are
probably non-existent, although many speci-
mens formerly ecclesiastical property are
to-day displayed in museums and private
collections. F. BRADBURY.
Sheffield.
A salver on a single truncated foot or base,
sometimes called a tazza, was made in large
quantities in England during the last
quarter of the seventeenth century and the
first quarter of the eighteenth, until it was
ousted from favour by the more popular
three-legged waiter or salver.
An exactly similar vessel was in use as a
paten in the Church during the same period.
This was a development from the paten-
covers of Communion cups of the seventeenth
century. E. ALFRED JONES.
Patens were at one period evidently
designed for domestic as well as ecclesiastical
Tise. C. J. Jackson in his * History of
English Plate,' &c. (Batsford, 1911), says :
'* Many of the Elizabethan Communion patens
were plain plates transferred to the Church from
secular use. Some patens of the latter part of the
seventeenth century were ordinary domestic
aalvers similarly transferred."
Several instances are recorded of patens
'having been in domestic use before being
dedicated to the service of the Church,
and possibly this accounts for the similarity
-of the church paten with Miss SHARLAND'S
.salver. ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
NEATE (12 S. v. 13).— Early in 1914,
while I was in St. Kitts, B.W.I., a friend
showed me a portrait of the Rev. Richard
tfeate, painted by his grandson Richard
^"eate in December, 1827. On the back
was pasted a book-plate of the " REVD
RICHD NEATE, LL.B.," late Chippendale
armorial in style, with the arms as given in
Burke' s ' Armory ' for Neate of London and
Swindon. I was informed that Charles
O'Hara Neate, a son of the parson, was a
planter whose name appeared in the list of
;he members of the House of Assembly in
1840.
The book-plate may be seen at the
British Museum, in the Franks Collection,
no. 21,599.
The year 1827 does not agree with the
date of death 1817, but I give it as I noted it.
V. L. OLIVER.
Sunninghill, Berks.
ST. HENRY THE ENGLISHMAN : BISHOP
THOMAS IN FINLAND (12 S. iv. 331). — As
to St. Henry see Bp. Challoner's ' Britannia
Sancta ' (London, 1745), part i. pp. 65-7 ;
but, if Challoner is right in following Cardinal
Baron ius in placing St. Henry's death in
1151, The Daily Chronicle must be wrong in
its dates. JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.
According to Gams, ' Series Episcoporum,'
the " S. Henricus Anglus," martyr, in ques-
tion became Bishop of Upsala in 1152, and
died on Jan. 19, 1157. His life was pub-
lished by the Bollandists in their ' Acta
Sanctorum ' under that date.
The other Englishman was Stephanus
(not Thomas), a Cistercian, who became
Bishop of Upsala in 1162, and two years
later first Archbishop of the same see. He
died on Aug. 18, 1185. For references see
Gams, op. cit. L. L. K.
" WATER-PIPES," PSALM XLII. 9, PRAYER
BOOK VERSION (12 S. iv. 243).— W. S. B. H.
appears to connect the expression " water-
pipes " of the Prayer Book version with the
idea of the conveyance of water for ordinary
domestic purposes through wooden pipes.
This would be a noiseless process. The
A.V. and R.V. version " water-spouts "
gives the clue to the meaning. I imagine
that the thought in the mind of the trans-
lator was the roar of the water as it was
discharged from the roofs of buildings,
during heavy rainfall, by means of the gar-
goyles, water-spouts, or water-pipes, straight
down to the gutters below. This was the
crude method of disposing of surface water
for long years after 1535.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
51
It may be remarked that the P.B. version
is defective in another respect. It should
read, as given in the A.V. and R.V., thy
(not "the") water-pipes or water-spouts.
The original appears to be metaphorical
language derived from the character of the
surrounding country. Hebraists supply as
a better rendering of the passage " Deep
calleth unto deep in the roar of Thy
cataracts.' F. A. RUSSELL.
116 Arran Road, Catford, S.E.6.
DESSIN'S HOTEL, CALAIS (12 S. iv. 187,
248 ; v. 20).— T. F. D. says that he did not
discover the name of the hotel in which
Sterne stayed at Calais until he came across it
in the recently published memoirs of William
Hickey. I presume, therefore, that he is
unaware that M. Dessin, the proprietor of
the Silver Lion, advertised his hotel in
English newspapers some years before the
publication of ' A Sentimental Journey.'
T. F. D. may be interested in the follow-
ing announcement, which I found in The
St. James's Chronicle, Oct. 11-13, 1763: —
"Dessin, who keeps the Silver Lion at Calais,
offers his service to the Nobility, Gentry & others,
who may please to honour him with their Company,
where they will be sure of meeting with the best
Entertainment & Lodging. He also provides
Chaises <fc all other kinds of Carriages, & has a
Correspondence in all Parts for the convenience of
Travellers, & executed with the greatest fidelity."
WILLIAM T. WHITLEY.
SIB WALTER RALEIGH, EAST LONDONER
(12 S. iv. 296 ; v. 15).— On June 19, 1877,
I visited the Artichoke Tavern, Blackwall,
in the company of a friend who had called
there respecting some arrangements relating
to a forthcoming Thames regatta. As we
came out he pointed to an old house close
by, and said : " That is where Sir Walter
Raleigh smoked his first pipe in England."
I made a note in my diary at the time,
though I doubted the information as to the
pipe. Still, it may very well have been
the house so graphically described by the
" Poplar antiquary," and concerning which
MR. PHILIP NORMAN desires information.
JOHN T. PAGE.
Long Itohington, Warwickshire.
In the too slowly increasing collection of
local curios exhibited in the Poplar Borough
Library in the High Street there is a copy of
the view possessed by MR. PHILIP NORMAN.
The local antiquaries were supported by
most of the West London specialists in 1873
in the verdict that the neglected house
which, according to tradition, was succes-
sively occupied by Sebastian Cabot and
Walter Raleigh, showed little trace of its
origin, except perhaps in the piles upon
which it was upraised ; and uncouth hands
had dealt grievously with its " restoration "
more than once, assisted by too zealous job-
lot sellers from neighbouring marine stores.
It was swept away to make room for the
approach to the new Blackwall Tunnel ; and
all that remains is a new place-name which
indicates acceptance of the tradition by the -
London County Council. Me.
Me. seems to suggest (iv. 296) that Raleigh
was the author of the phrase " to singe the
Spaniard's beard." But was it not Sir
Francis Drake who uttered the famous
boast, and in slightly different words ?
Froude in his * English Seamen in the
Sixteenth Century ' says : —
41 On the 19th [April] he [Drake! entered Cadiz
Harbour ; on the 1st of May he passed out again
without the loss of a boat or a man. He said in
jest that he had singed the King of Spain's beard
for him."
J. R. H.
LAKES PASCHOLLER AND CALENDARI,
NEAR THUSIS (12 S. v. 13).— For " Flerda "
read Flerden, to the west of Thusis. To its
west, on the " Heinzenberg," is the Pas-
cuminersee, just to the south of the Pas-
cholen pastures.
The " Caltmdari lake " is to the west of
Andeer, which by the Spliigen Pass road
7£ miles above Thusis. Thusis is at the
northern mouth of the Via Mala, while
Andeer is some way south of its southern
end. W. A. B. C.
Grindelwald.
PRESIDENT WILSON'S ANCESTORS (12 S.
iv. 298). — A paragraph in The Daily Chronicle
of Jan. 11 stated that particulars were
forwarded recently to President Wilson by
Mr. John Muir, of Beith, Ayrshire, respect-
ing the Rev. Dr. Witherspoon, formerly
parish minister of Beith, a grand -uncle of
the President, and a lineal descendant of
John Knox. N. W. HILL.
FORSTER OF HANSLOPE (12 S. iv. 158). —
MR. BARTON is referred to 11 S. viii. 518
(Paulet) ; to Thomas Salt's 'Materials for a
History of Staffordshire ' (Leveson) ; to the
Harleian Society's publications of ' Visita-
tion of Staffordshire,' 1663-4, p. 202, and
' Visitation of Worcestershire,' -1682 (Leve-
son) ; and to ' Appendix to Hardwicke and
d'Aubigny,' pp. 6 and 7 (Brit. Mus. Addit..
MSS. Dept. 37940). OYEZ.
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. v. FEB., 1919.
KENT FAMILY OF WINCHESTER AND
READING (12 S. iv. 187, 274).— The corre-
spondence on this subject is extremely
interesting. One would much like to find
the link of connexion between the two
branches. Tho two Mayors of Winchester,
as well as Simon Kent, Mayor of Reading,
Tnay have been sons of John Kent of Reading,
mercer, who died circa 1415. Perhaps the
clue may be found later ; in which case a
notice will, I hope, duly appear in these
columns. In the meantime I have ex-
amined a collection made some years ago,
and now submit a few extracts which may
prove useful not only to the querist, but to
others interested in genealogical research.
WINCHESTER.
1. John Kent, Mayor of Winchester, 1454-5 (?),
died circa 1478 (?).
2. Richard Kent, Mayor of Winchester, 1469 (?).
His arms were Arg., two lighted tapers in saltire
or (Herald and Genealogist, vol. iv. p. 220).
3. Robert Kent, Proctor for Winchester
College in the Court of Arches, 1460-1. This
person, evidently an ecclesiastical lawyer, may
have been a brother of Master Thomas Kent,
Doctor of Civil and Canon Law, Clerk to the
Privy Council from 1444, ambassador to various
countries, and Sub-Constable of England, whose
will, dated Jan. 19, 1468, was proved at Lambeth,
March 15, 1468 (P.C.C. Godyn 26). It mentions
" my brother Master Robert Kent," who is
•charged with the distribution of 20 J. " among
my cousins and kinsmen belonging to me in the
fourth degree, or within."
4. John Kent, Scholar of Winchester College,
adm. 1432, died August, 1435 (P1434). Brass
in chancel at Headbourne Worthy. Son of
Simon Kent, Mayor of Reading, 1430, who also
represented that town in Parliament.
5. Henry Kent, Scholar Winchester College,
1448.
6. James Kent, musician. Born Winchester,
1700. Adm. chorister there 1711. Died Win-
chester, 1776. Organist from 1731 of Trinity
College, Cambridge, and from 1737 to 1774 of
the Cathedral and College of Winchester. Married
Elizabeth, daughter of John Freeman.
7. Samuel Kent left a benefaction to St.
Michael's, Winchester. Charity Reports, vol. xii.
f> 479' READING.
1. John Kent of Reading, mercer, living 1410,
died circa 1415. Brass for himself and wife
Joan in chancel of St. Lawrence's Church there.
Plaintiff in an action in the Borough Court of
Winchester, Jan. 20, 1405/6 (Herald and Genea-
logist, vol. iv. p. 220). His son
2. Simon Kent, Mayor of Reading, 1430,
represented the town in Parliament. Returned
in 1433 as gentleman by the Commissioners.
Living 1451. His son
3. John Kent, admitted Winchester Scholar,
1432, died August, 1435 (prob. 1434). Brass in
chancel at Headbourne Worthy.
4. Nicholas Kent of Reading. Churchwarden
of St. Lawrence's Church, Reading, in 1501,
died 1505. His will, proved at Lambeth Dec. 11,
1505 (P.C.C. Holgrave 42), refers to "my son
John Kent, whom I make my sole executor."
Testator wished to be buried in St. Lawrence's
Church aforesaid, " near to the burying place of
Joan my wife."
5. John Kent (not described). Will dated
Dec. 11, 1536, proved at Lambeth, Jan. 26,
1536 /7 (P.C.C. Dmgley 1). He gave his body to
be buried in the churchyard of St. Giles in Reading.
Wife Alice executrix. Refers to his daughters
Joan, Alice, and Ede.
6. Thomas Kente of " Sowthcott " in the
parish of St. Mary, Reading, yeoman. Will
dated Aug. 27, 1554, proved P.C.C. June 4,
1557. Left his body to be buried in the chancel
of St. Mary's in Reading aforesaid. Wife Joan
and son Thomas Kent exors. Will refers to
Alice, daughter ; John Kent, " my brother's
son " ; sister Gregorie; sister Pylgrime ; Thomas,
Richard, and John Aldworthe and Thomas
Lyvord, brothers-in-law ; and to leases of the
farm and manor of Sowthcott and lands In
Burfelde.
The above are, I believe, all the wills of
the Reading branch recorded in the Indexes
in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury
down to 1600.
7. John Kent the elder of Reading, clothier.
Will dated July 20, 1686, codicil June 6, 1687.
Proved P.C.C. Jan. 23 and Aug. 9, 1687 (Foot 79).
Married Frances , who died before July, 1686.
He was cousin to Griffith Kent of Southwark,
Norway merchant, whose family pedigree appears
in The Genealogist, vol. i. pp. 220-21, and vol. ii.
pp. 185-92. The said John Kent left, with other
issue, a son
8. Clement Kent of Goring, co. Oxon, gent.,
buried in the chancel of that church. The in-
scription, formerly on a black marble gravestone,
is preserved in Rawlinson MS. B. 400 c. in the
Bodleian Library. Will dated March 9, 1700,
proved P.C.C. Jan. 23, 1701/2 (Hern 7). By
his wife Sarah (dead March, 1700 ,/l), daughter of
Sebastian Lyford of Reading, gent., he left, with
other issue, a son
9. Clement Kent of Thatcham, co. Berks, and
of Goring, co. Oxon, esq., J.P. for Berks ; M.P.
for Wallingford 1705, and for Reading 1722.
He married at Gray's Inn Chapel, Jan. 8, 1703 /4,
Barsheba Marsh of Stepney, co. Middx., and died
Dec. 25, 1746. Buried Goring. Last will dated
June 8, 1711, proved at Doctors' Commons,
May, 1747 (P.C.C. Potter 129). His widow was
buried at Goring, July 25, 1750, as appears from
the church register.
A Clement Kent married at the Temple
Church, Dec. 19, 1697, Johanna Cobb.
Possibly she was identical with " my present
wife Joane " mentioned in the will of
Clement Kent of Goring (see no. 8 above).
Early in the seventeenth century a
branch of the Reading stock settled at
Sonning, Berks. Griffith Kent (see no. 7),
who married a granddaughter of Lord
Forbes of Scotland, and widow* of John
* She was the mother of Sir John Shorter, Kt.,
Loi'd Mayor of London 1688, who died Sept. 4,
1688, dxiring his year of office. See Le Were,
p. 301.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
Shorter of Staines, Middlesex, was born at
" Sunning." So also was John Kent of
St. Michael's Bassishaw, London, merchant,
whose will— dated Sept. 19, 1693 ; proved
P.C.C. Feb., 1694 (Box 35)— refers to his
cousin Clement Kent of Goring (see no. 8).
A London marriage licence, dated Sept. 9,
1662, records a Thomas Kent of " Sunning,"
Berks, brewer, widower, 50, and Elizabeth
Latham of the same place, spinster, 50.
They were buried at Sonning, respectively
Dec. 14, 1673, and May 20, 1680. A deed
dated April 19, 1721, bore the signatures of
Clement Kent of Thatcham, Berks (see
no. 9), and of John Kent of Sonning, Berks,
Esq. It referred to a deed-poll dated
July 13, 1630, enrolled in Chancery 18th
idem, executed by Clement Kent of Goring,
deceased (see no. 8).
One would much like to have a reference
to a pedigree setting out the above in their
due order and relationship.
P. RAMSEY-KENT.
82 Victoria Street, Westminster, S.W.I.
MRS. LEGH OF LYME, CHESHIRE (12 S.
iv. 48, 82, 141). — I do not think it is possible
that Lady Margaret Legh, to whom a
monument is erected in Fulham Church,
can be the person MR. LEONARD C. PRICE
desires information about.
In ' Fulham Old and New,' vol. i.
pp. 222-3, a lengthy description of her monu-
ment is given, followed by a few bio-
graphical details. She is said to have been
the daughter of Sir Gilbert Gerard, Master
of the Rolls, by his wife Anne, daughter and
heiress of Thomas Radcliffe of Wilmerly.
She was born in 1570. When only 16 she
was married to Peter Legh, grandson and
heir of Sir Peter Legh, of Lyme and Bradley.
Peter Legh succeeded his grandfather in
1590, inheriting from him artistic tastes and
much sound business capacity. He was
knighted in 1598.
Lady Margaret Legh died on July 23,
1603, at the early age of 33. At Lyme
Park, Disley, Cheshire, there is preserved
a good contemporary portrait of her in the
style of Jansen. L. H. CHAMBERS.
FRENCH REVOLUTION: "EAT CAKE"
(12 S. iv. 272).— Though this saying is often
attributed to Marie Antoinette, it is older
than the period of the French Revolution.
Mr. Edward Latham in his * Famous Sayings
and their Authors ' (Sonnenschein, 1904)
quotes a sentence proving this from partie i.
livre vi. of Rousseau's ' Confessions ' ; but
Rousseau's description of the incident which
caused him to record the phrase is so-
interesting that it is worth giving pretty
fully :—
" [Madame Warens) avoit a Grenoble une
amie appel^e madame Deybens, dont le marf
etoit ami de M. de Mably, grand-prevot a Lyon.
M. Deybens me proposa 1'edncauon des enfans
de M. de Mably : j'acceptai, et je partis pour
Lyon ....
" J'avois tout-a-fait perdu chez maman le
tout des petites friponneries, parce que, tout
tant a moi, je n'avois rien a voler. . . .mais. . . .
j'aurois grand'peur de voler comme dans mon
enfance si j'6tois sujet aux memes d6sirs. J'eua
la preuve de cela chez M. de Mably. Environne"
de petites choses volables que je ne regardois
me"me pas, je m'avisai de convpiter un certain
petit vin blanc d'Arbois tres-joli, dont quelques
verres que par-ci par-la je buvois a table
m'avoient fort affriande\ . . .11 resta toujours
agr^able a boire, et 1'occasion fit que je m'en
accommodai de temps en temps de quelques
bouteilles pour boire a mon aise en mon parfciculier.
Malheureusement je n'ai jamais pu boire sans
manger. Comment faire pour avoir du pain ?
II m'^toit impossible d'en mettre en reserve.
En faire acheter par les laquais, c'6toit me
d^celer, et presque insulter le maitre de la maison.
En acheter moi-me'me,. je n'osai jamais. Un
beau monsieur, I'6p6e au c6t4, aller chez un
boulanger acheter un morceau de pain, cela se
pouvoit-il ? Enfin je me rappelai le pis-aller
d'une grande princesse a qui Ton disoit que le«
paysans n'avoient pas de pain, et qui r^pondit ;
Qu'ils rrangent de la brioche."
Mr. Latham also states that Alphonse
Karr (Les Guepes, April, 1843) alludes to a
work dated 1760, where a Duchess of
Tuscany is credited with the same remark.
Karr's words are : —
" Ce qui me paralt prouver a peu pres que le
mot n'a pas £t<I dit par Marie Antoinette, mais
retrouv^ et mis en circulation contre elle."
Latham misquotes Karr as saying " Et
mis en circulation par elle."
The * Confessions ' were written c. 1766,
but the incident referred to by Rousseau
occurred c. 1740. E. G. C.
ST. TRUNNION : HIS IDENTITY (12 S. v. 7).
— There can be little doubt, I think, that this
name is a variant of Ninian, further disguised
by the adhesion of the final consonant in
" Saint." Ringan is a common variant of
Ninian in our place-names ; e g., Killantrin-
gan in Wigtownshire and Ayrshire. North
Ronaldshay is a corruption of Rinan's Ey
or Ninian' s Island. Ringan is still in use as
a baptismal name in the south-west of"
Scotland. The change of sound from
n to r seems natural to the Goidhelic Celt.
For example, cnoc, a hill, though it may
appear as Knock in the Ordnance Survey
maps, is now sounded crock or crochd, with a
strong guttural, in the West Highlands.
54
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 S. V. FEB., 1»I9
The name Ninian is still less easy to
recognize when d is substituted for the
initial n. That has occurred in such names
as Chipperdingan in Wigtownshire, meaning
the well (tiobar) of Ninian, and that is the
form given by Geoff ery Gaimar's ' Estorie
des Engles ' (twelfth century): —
A Witernen [Whithorn gist Saint Dinan,
Long tens vint devant Columban.
The adhesion of the final t in " Saint " to
the name which follows is of frequent
occurrence, as J. T. F. observes ; but some-
times the reverse process takes effect.
Passengers travelling to Glasgow by the
Midland Railway from St. Pancras are landed
at St. Enoch station. Most people who
speculate on the subject at all connect the
name with Enoch "seventh from Adam,"
the father of Methuselah ; but none of the
four Enochs who figure in the Old Testament
was eligible for canonization, which postulates
Christian baptism. A clue to the true name
occurs in the city records of Glasgow in the
sixteenth century, wherein mention is made
of " San Theneuke's Kirk," which appears
later as St. Tennoch's, and ultimately as
St. Enoch's. The dedication was to the
mother of St. Kentigern, whose name is
variously written in early MSS. as Thenew,
Tenaw, Thaney, and Thennat.
HERBERT MAXWELL.
Monreith.
Arch. Cant., vol. xvii., contains an
inventory (1485) of vestments at St. An-
drew's, Canterbury, from which I make the
following extracts : —
" Item ij laten candelstykez for Seint Tronyon
auter."— P. 150.
[Footnote. — St. Tron. He founded an abbey
.at Liege, called St. Tron's or St. Truyen's
He died A.D. 693. Butler, * Lives of the Saints,
sub die Nov. 23.]
" These parcellys folowyng pertayne to Senl
Tronyons Auter." — P. 151.
" Item an auter clothe with curten wyngis
to hang above the auter with Sent Tronyon yn
the myddys and a curten of the same worke." —
P. 152.
R. J. FYNMORE.
COL. COLQUHOUN GRANT (12 S. iv. 326). —
C. McG. will find useful information in
vol. viii. of the 'Diet. Nat. Biog.,' p. 382
et seq. (1908). E. F. B.
RUTTER FAMILY NAME (12 S. v. 7). —
The whole of chap. xvi. of Mr. Ernes
Weekley's ' The Romance of Names ' (pub
lished by John Murray in 1914) is taken u
with this subject ; see also ' Surnames
(same author and publisher, 1916) at p. 240
JOHN B. WAINE WRIGHT.
JOSEPH BROWN (12 S. iv. 331). — A short
iography of him will be found in ' D.N.B.'
nd Boase's * Modern English Biography.'
He was the seventh son of George Brown
f North Shields, and was born there in
eptember, 1784 (not 1781, as stated).
He was attached to Wellington's staff in the
'eninsular War ; was medical officer at
underland, and Mayor there in 1840 ; and
ied at Villiers Street in that town on
tfov. 19, 1868. ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
The Tragedy of Tragedies ; or, The Life and Death
of Tom Thumb the Great. By Henry Fielding.
Edited by James T. Hillhouse. (Yale, Uni-
versity Press ; London, Milford, 12s. Qd.)
PHIS book in format is a companion volume to
VIr. Jensen's edition of Fielding's Covent Garden
Journal, which emanated from the Yale Press in
1915, and in literary execution displays a similar
ppreciation of the great master, and a like
scholarly industry in elaborating his productions.
Of Fielding's twenty-six comic plays the two
cleverest, consonant with his satirical vein, were
' tragedies " — ' The Covent Garden Tragedy '
and ' The Tragedy of Tragedies ' — both, para-
doxical though it sound, being burlesques.
As Fielding's dramatic works (save his adapta-
tions of Moliere) seldom claim attention at the
sresent day, and as he was only 23 when ' Tom
Thumb ' was put forth, and consequently of an
age when contemporary notices of him are rare,
t was a courageous adventure on Dr. Hillhouse's
part to present Fielding as a dramatist worthy of
perusal, and to embark on a research that should
revivify his rising popularity in the theatrical
world of 1730. The result is a volume worthy of
the labour bestowed upon it.
Whether Fielding at this time realized the full
force of his literary powers may be debated, but
he was more than subconscious that the ludicrous
irresistibly appealed to him. Addressing his
London lady-love from the village of Upton Gray
in Hampshire in 1728, complaining of his isolation
from the pleasures of the metropolis, he had
observed : —
I've thought (so strong with me burlesque
prevails)
This place design'd to ridicule Versailles.
Consequently when two years later, being
already the author of three acted plays, he
bethought him of soliciting the patronage of the
town by composing a cento reflecting the absur-
dities of the heroic drama from Dryden to James
Thomson, he brought to the task much natural
aptitude therefor, and also, as results proved, a
remarkable equipment of dramatic lore and
learning.
It was at the Haymarket Theatre (which stood
on the site of the present Pall Mall Restaurant)
that Fielding produced ' Tom Thumb, a Tragedy/
in April, 1730. It appeared simultaneously in
book-form, and the original text, with the in-
teresting and little-known preface to the second
edition, is reprinted in the present volume. As
in Buckingham's ' Rehearsal ' of 1671, " the
12 8. V. FEB., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
55
lofty unreality and inflated gradiloquence " (to
use Dr. Hillhouse's phrase) characteristic of the
tragedy-writers of the late seventeenth and early
eighteenth centuries were attacked in ' Tom
Thumb.' So keenly was Fielding's vigorous
humour appreciated that the piece was played
"upwards of forty nights," a record that would
before ' The Beggar's Opera ' have been un-
precedented.
Having thus secured the public ear, Fielding
improved the occasion by reconstructing the play
Young ; if an inferior actor should, in his opinion,
exceed Quin or Garrick ; or a signpost painter
set himself above the inimitable Hogarth : we
become ridiculous by our vanity."
There are also two Appendixes, both valuable.
In Appendix A some details are given of ' The
Battle of the Poets,' a satire on the choice of a
new laureate to succeed Eusden (who had died
in September, 1730), which was interpolated in
' Tom Thumb ' in December. Dr. Hillhouse
concedes that from its " mean and spiteful tone "
enlarging it from two acts to three, renaming it ! it is improbable that Fielding was responsible for
' The Tragedy of Tragedies ? or, The Life and i it, but he omits to mention a more cogent reason
Death of Tom Thumb the Great,' and staging it for dissociating his name from its authorship,
1 namely, an announcement in The Daily Journal
of Nov. 30, 1730 : " Whereas it hath been adver-
tised that an entire new act, called the Battle of
the Poets, is introduced into the Tragedy of Tom
Thumb ; This is to assure the Town, that I have
in 1731. The rearranged edition, embellished
with an illustration by Hogarth, was also printed,
and in addition Fielding conceived the idea of
tacking to it a mock-critical preface and foot-
notes. The preface — replete, as Dr. Hillhouse
remarks, with " solemn drollery " — satirized the
pedantries of critics and commentators generally,
and of John Dennis in particular. ' The Tragedy
of Tragedies ' is one continuous parody of the
extravagant sentiments and the unrestrained
bombast uttered by the stage-tyrants who peopled
the plays of John Banks, Dennis, Dryden,
[Nathaniel Lee, Elijah Fenton, Charles Johnson,
Nahum Tate, Theobald, Thomson, Young, and
others. In the preface Fielding presupposes the
* Tragedy ' to be an Elizabethan production,
while the foot-notes teem with " parallel passages
out of the best of our English writers " who had,
as he alleges, borrowed their flamboyant heroics
from it. Fielding's make-belief is so compelling,
and the quotations are so apt and so numerous,
that the task, though laborious, was evidently a
most congenial one. That was perhaps the best
•earnest of success, for, as the learned President
of Magdalen wrote but recently, " that work of
art will not please twice which has not pleased
once." But Fielding, knowing that his audiences
and readers needed no assistance in catching the
allusions to contemporary playwrights, limited his
references mainly to the less-known classical plays.
What Dr. Hillhouse has done is to put us in the
position of Fielding's audiences and readers, and
point out to us, in his own notes, many " hits "
at then better-known productions which for
Fielding to have noted would have been a work
of supererogation. The extent to which the
present-day reader is thus assisted to the many
good things provided by Fielding's satire is
indicated by the fact that while Fielding's text
sixty-five pages, the
to forty-one pages of
and foot-notes occupy
editor's annotations run
small print.
It may not be amiss to remind ourselves that
Fielding's ridicule of some phases of the dramatic
work of Dryden and of Young (fair enough when
limited to selected passages) does not represent
his final opinion of their merits. In his ' True
Greatness ' of 1741 he wrote concerning the
former : —
Great is the man who with unwearied toil
Spies a weed springing in the richest soil.
If Dryden's page with one bad line be bless'd.
'Tis great to show it as to write the rest.
His more mature opinion of Young was no less
decidedly expressed. In ' Jonathan Wild '
(III. ii.) he refers to him as " the excellent poet,"
and in his ' Essay on Conversation ' he remarks :
" If I prefer my excellence in poetry to Pope or
never seen this additional act, nor am any ways
concerned therein. Henry Fielding." It is
curious that this public repudiation should have
been overlooked, as there is much evidence that
the editor and his collaborators have sifted the
contemporary news-sheets somewhat thoroughly.
It should be borne in mind that Fielding did not
become manager of the Haymarket Theatre until
1736.
In Appendix B ten pages are devoted to an
account of the adaptations (including the
musical) through which ' Tom Thumb ' has
passed, and the appreciation of their merits by
such competent judges as Lamb, Hazlitt, and
Walter Scott. Dr. Hillhouse might have cited
further testimony of their popularity. For
instance, Mrs. Piozzi, writing to the Rev. Daniel
Lysons in 1797, complains : " No matter 1 my
half-crown for Flo shall be willingly contributed,
though I do think seriously that Dent's Dog Tax
will have an exceeding bad effect on the country.
Both Ministry and Opposition have at last
agreed on one point : they join against the lap-
So when two dogs are fighting in the streets
With a third dog one of these two dogs meets ;
With angry teeth he bites him to the bone,
And this dog smarts for what that dog had done.
These verses are somewhat too soft and mellifluous
for the occasion, being Fielding's ; but I half long
to address a doggrell epistle to Mr. Dent."
An incident, too, in Byron's life might have been
recalled. His indignation was somewhat acutely
roused, on his first entering the House of Lords in
1809, by certain difficulties attending the proof of
his birth. These overcome, Lord Eldon welcomed
him cordially, but Lord Byron himself says :
" The Chancellor apologized to me for the delay,
observing that these forms were part of his duty.
I begged him to make no apology, and added, as
he had certainly shown no violent hurry, ' Your
Lordship is exactly like Tom Thumb ' (which was
then being acted) ; ' you did your duty, and you
did no more.' "
Thirdly, many readers would naturally lean
towards a play which had been a favourite of
Charles Dickens — so much a favourite that
O'Hara's musical version was played in amateur
theatricals at his house, Dickens taking the part
of the ghost of Gaffer Thumb, and Mark Lemon
playing the giantess Glumdalca. Nay, more,
Dickens in ' Pickwick ' quotes two lines from
Lord Grizzle's song.
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NOTES AND QUERIES. [u s. v. FEB., 1919.
Lastly, nothing brings the eighteenth-century
zest for Fielding's tragedy more vividly before us
than the delightfully playful account in Fanny
Burney's ' Diary ' of its private representation at
Worcester in 1777. She herself impersonated
Huncanuinca, while her little niece Anna Maria,
of less than seven years, under her tuition, won
all hearts by her rendering of Tom Thumb.
As Sir Walter Besant in his essay on Rabelais
remarks, " Life is too serious to make good
burlesque writing possible except within very
narrow limits, and directly the puppets touch on
human interests, they become themselves human";
and those who take up Fielding's ' Tragedy ' will
enjoy much diversion, but, from the very nature
of the subject, they must not look for the intense
humanity and fidelity to nature characteristic of
the works written by him when he had travelled
two decades further towards the Shade.
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LONDON, MARCH, 1919
C 0 N T E N T S. — No. 90.
NOTES .-—Classical Parallelisms to the War, 57— London -
Paris Airship, 58— 'Double Falsehood,' 60— Inscriptions
in St. John's, Waterloo Road, 63— Aviation in Eighteenth
Century— Inscription on Seal— Flamsteed: Halley— Mr.
Justice Maule on Bigamy, 64 — Bewdley Apprentices
and Mothering Sunday— J E. Scripps— " Sheer hulk":
"The Spanish Main "— Snodgrass Surname, 65.
QUERIES : — ' Alumni Cantabrigienses ' — ' The Poor
Thresher '—Richard Baxter—" Nablette " : " Bontefeu "
—Henry Bunnett, Artist— Virgil on Quarrels— Creighton
on History. 66— Fable of Countryman— Garnham and
Hillman— Glamorgan Volunteer Rangers— Tennyson—
Herodias and St. John the Baptist's Head— R. Simp-
son, Royal Farrier— Boumpbrey Family— W. Fisher
Shrapnel— Hawks to catch (salmon, 67 — Francis Harvey
of Natal— Cheveley and Tudgay, Painters— Cantwell
Family — Abanazar — Dudley Bernard — J. Haggatt —
Helicon Lloyd — Susannah Owens — Bibliography of
Epitaphs— 'Struwwelpeter' in English, 68— "Lick into
shape "—Coleridge on " Bully "— J. Turner, Painter—
'Irrelagh'— Morland Gallery— Finkle Street— Bp. M.
Heton— Dr. E. Hyde— French Proverb on Politics — St.
Dunstan's-in-the-East— '• Crest " of Crest-Cloth, 69— St.
Hilda's, South Shields—' Life of Marlborough '—Toad-
Juice — Whistler : Pope — School Prize Compositions-
Stained Glass— Submerged Tracks— Author Wanted, 70.
REPLIES :— Foundling Entries in Parish Registers. 71—
Henry I. : a Gloucester Charter, 72— William Fleete
of Selworthy— Pre-Raphaelite Stained Glass, 74—' Greek
Anthology': Westminster and Eton — Maw Family —
Prudentius's ' Psychomachia ' — " Mantle-maker's twist "
—Hon. Lieut. George Stewart, 75 — Lady Tynte— Col.
Macdonell's Duel with Norman Macleod — Hengler
Family— St. Cuthman, 76—' The Newcomes '—Richard I.
in Captivity, 77 — Markshall, Honywood Family, and
Fuller Family — Andrew B. Wright — Bad ulla Tomb-
etone Inscription, 78— War Slang—'' Dinkuna "— " Camou-
flage"—Golds worthy as Place-Name — Clay Balls for
Christmas Boxes, 79— ''Kimono"— Byron in Fiction-
Sable, on a Chevron Argent — Ainslie Bond, 80 — Epitaphs
to Slaves— W> borne Family— Robert Blake-Rain and
Mowing — Henslowe and Ben Jonson, 81 — Christmas
Verses — Byronic Statue in Fleet Street — Napoleon and
Lord John Russell — Smoking in England, 82— Panton
Street Puppet Show — Matthew Arnold : Proving a Nega-
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Notices to Correspondents.
CLASSICAL PARALLELISMS TO THE
WAR.
AFTER lecturing recently in camp for the
Khaki University of Canada, I was travelling
in the train with an officer, and in the
course of conversation on classical subjects,
he asked me if the popular expression
" Gone west " took its origin in some Greek
or Latin equivalent.* Undoubtedly the
thought of the sunset of life does find ex-
pression in Greek and Latin writers.
In the first chorus of Sophocles's ' GEdipus
Rex ' we read of the souls of hapless infants
winging their way
* For suggestions as to the history of the phrase
in English see 12 S. iv. 218, 280, 337.
The Greeks had a proverb o
and Aristotle, I think, speaks of
fttov ca-iTfpav. The Homeric spirit-world
is in the region of sunset : —
TTCOS rJA&s inrb £6<J3ov rj
'AtSrys 8' e'Aa^e £6<f>ov
'II.' XV. 191.
The word £o</>os, darkness, came to be the
equivalent of SiVts. Again in the ' Odyssey '
(XX. 356) we have
VTTO o<>ov.
II.' XL 155.
The idea of death as a departure westward
will be found, I think, in the ' Greek
Anthology ' ; but I cannot recall a passage,
though in the epitaph on Heracleitus of
Halicarnassus the poet, speaking of their
nights of happy converse, says,
Ovid has a beautiful line —
Labitur occiduae per iter declive senectse.
Surely the expression " the sloping path of
westering age " is a very cognate idea.
But indeed the parallels suggested by
ancient wars are manifold. We might
trace them in the strife of Greeks and
Persians, but more forcibly still in the
conflicts of Carthage and Rome.
The hatred long fostered by Germany,
the cold, calculating strategy of Bernhardi,
the fiery ' Hymn of Hate,' the toast of
" Der Tag ! " and the " strafing " of Ger-
many's enemies, are fully matched by the
simple episode of Hamilcar taking the
nine-year-old Hannibal to the altar to
swear undying hostility to the Romans —
" altaribus admotum tactis sacris iure iurando
adactum se . . . . hostem fore populo Romano "
(Livy, xxi. 1). The breaking of treaties,
"scraps of paper," and the like, seem
aptly foreshadowed by the brief expression
" Punica fides."
The reciprocation of feeling as shown by
the Roman " Delenda est Carthago " has
its counterpart in the " Eye for an eye, and
tooth for a tooth " school now.
The torture and inhumanity to prisoners
of old are more than hinted at by Horace,
when he says of Regulus : —
Atqui sciebatquse sibi barbarus
Tortor pararet.
Verily, history repeats itself, and hum&n
nature repeats itself, in all ages !
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 8. v. MARCH, 1919.
After the battle of Zama in 202 B.C.
the armistice terms of Scipio Africanus
were every whit as severe as those of
Marshal Foch. In addition to all else,
the Carthaginians were compelled to give
up their entire fleet, save ten triremes :
" Naves rostratas prseter decem triremes
traderent " (Livy, xxx. 37). And the
spectacular end of these ships is described
in chapter 43 — they were publicly burnt
on the high seas : —
" Naves provectas in altum incendi iussit. Quin-
gentas fuisse omnis generis quidam tradunt,
quarum conspectum repente incendium tarn lugubre
fuisse Poenis quam si ipsa Carthago arderet."
And yet, with all these precautions, we
may remember for our warning that there
was a third Punic war.
It is curious to note what some of the
ancient writers say of Germany itself, and
still more curious to think that all these
centuries afterwards German professors are
still editing, collating, and expounding
these old writers.
Tacitus (' Germania,' 23) alludes to the
fondness of the Germans for beer ; they
have for their beverage (" potui "), he says,
" humor ex hordeo aut frumento in quam-
.dam similitudinem vini corruptus." This
is one of the earliest references to what we
oall malt liquor.
Posidonius, who wrote before Caesar,
speaks of the huge appetites of the Germans,
and, I think, Mela does the same. Every
schoolboy must recall from the background
of his earliest Latin memories the words of
CfBsar, i. 1 : " Horum omnium fortissimi
sunt Belgce, proximique sunt Germanis qui
trans Rhenum incolunt."
Even where Tacitus praises the Germans,
as he often does, his words bear a sinister
significance in the light of later experience ;
e.g., ' Germania,' 24, with reference to their
gambling debts : " Ea est ^in re prava
pervicacia ; ipsi fidem vocant."
Had we consulted Virgil, the Bath Kol
of mediaeval times, as he was once consulted
for oracular purposes, a practice which
developed into the Sortos Virgilianse — had
we so consulted him during the progress of
the War, doubtless many strikingly apposite
quotations might have been forthcoming.
One such reader, on the very day (May 24,
1915) that Italy joined the Allies, lighted
upon the line,
Italiam laeti socii clamore salutant.
• ^En.' III. 524.
And another, after Lieut. Warneford's
brilliant exploit in bringing down a Zeppelin
(and the passage gains added significance
in view of his tragic end), happened on the
line,
Macte nova virtute puer ! sic itur ad astra.
Of a truth this is a parallelism indeed
transcending anything the Mantuan bard
could dream of, though he sang of Daedalus
and Icarus. J. HUDSON.
Camberwell, S.E.
LONDON-PARIS AIRSHIP.
A STRIKING anticipation of the events of
to-day is provided by a handbill issued in
1835 (see illustration opposite). Both the
airship and its parent society were derived
from Paris, where, earlier in the same year,
"The Aeronautical Society" had on ex-
hibition at the Champ de Mars a similar
airship, measuring 134 ft. long, 34 ft. high,
and 25 ft. wide, constructed from the
design of M. Lennon, a French officer, who
was to have ascended with seventeen
passengers and set them down in Hyde
Park four hours later. So confident
were the promoters of the success of this
enterprise that one of them took up his
residence in Sherrard Street, Golden Square,
to be at hand when the airship arrived and
supervise the return journey. Unfortu-
nately the balloon burst while being filled,
and the crowd — estimated to exceed 100,000
— rushed in and tore it to pieces. A frag-
ment of the envelope is preserved in vol. iv.
of 'Aeronautica Illustrata' in the Patent
Office Library.
The Eagle here illustrated was an enter-
prise of the same company, which was now
known as " The European Aeronautical
Society," and the designer and chief
showman as " Count de Lennox." The
Mechanics' Magazine (July 18, 1835) pro-
vides some interesting measurements. The
balloon or gasholder was covered with
2,400 yards of cotton lawn, thoroughly
varnished to make it airtight ; its capacity
is said to have been 7,000 cubic feet. " The
car or packet boat is 75 ft. long and 7 ft.
high ; the framework of wood with strong
netting all round to prevent any of the
crew or passengers from falling out." The
vessel was to be propelled or directed to
favourable currents of air by four wings,
each formed of 80 movable flaps of var-
nished lawn. Except an allusion to " the
cabin containing the machinery," no in-
formation is afforded of the situation and
design of the propelling force. The sails
at the ends were for steering, or alterna-
tively to add to the propelling force by
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59
'European Aeronautical Society
FIRST AERIAL SHIP
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at th* entrance of Kensington, Victoria Road, /actn g • Kensington Gardens, be-
tween the first Turnpike from Hyde Poyk Corner. o*d the <w*nt*f. to Kensington*
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of ilie Society, and their Friooda.
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titled liotoiflr to permanent Free* Admission for hiniself* but also to the right of
""lotto luciof ai ailitaj©* without any charge a^Parly of Friends not excsecKng- 8.
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Four Jr»et4*, during sbe wbalc period of bis Sabccriptioa.-
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taking advantage of favourable winds. A
careful examination of all the printed
matter relating to it has not disclosed how —
if in any manner — the ship moved. The
wheels or rollers under the car or packet
boat also do not receive notice ; so, although
they are an intelligent suggestion of land-
ing wheels, we must suppose they only
aided the movement of the ship about the
showground.
A long letter of this Count de Lennox,
asking for the loan of 200Z., points out that
at least 20,000 persons would pay a shilling
or more to see it, and the person addressed
could have his own representatives at the
ticket office to secure the recovery of his
proportion of the receipts. The enter-
prise was suspect from the first ; thus The
Morning Herald (July, 1835) concludes a
long note : " We should hope that their
argonautics will not end in their obtaining
a Golden Fleece without the trouble of
sailing."
The airship was removed on a Monday
evening early in September to Vaux-
hall Gardens, and an illustrated broadside
printed and sold by G. Smeeton was re-
issued, " Now exhibiting at Vauxhall Gar-
dens " being substituted for " Which is
shortly to ascend from Kensington." A
rumour that it had been destroyed was
contradicted, but it was ultimately seized
for debt by the Sheriff of Middlesex, and
removed in three wagons, a newspaper
(the cutting not identified) commenting :
" Behold the farce of the bottle conjurer
over again."
I have failed to trace the subsequent fate
of the Eagle. It was on exhibition at
Vauxhall on Sept. 12, when an ascent in
twelve days' time, with Count Lennox, his
wife, and six other persons, was promised ;
but I have been unable to discover anything
further. ALECK ABBAHAMS.
* DOUBLE FALSEHOOD ' :
SHAKESPEARE, FLETCHER, AND
THEOBALD. ,
(See ante, p. 30.)
TURNING now to the internal evidence, it
is to be said that the determination of the
authorship of the play is no easy matter,
by reason of the fact that it has been, in the
words of the royal licence prefixed to the
1728 edition, " with great labour and pains
revised and adapted to the stage " by
Theobald. None of the recognized means
can be employed uniformly : the verse's
mechanism cannot easily be set down on
percentage bases ; its incalculable music
has been robbed of much of its individuality ;
the dramatic technique and the characteri-
zation afford no sound criteria ; and the
imagery, the habit of thought, the diction,
and the sentence-building of the original
writer or writers have been so overlaid that
definite results are not to be looked for.
There has of recent years been a tendency
among University critics — who are appar-
ently deaf to the differences between the
lyrical swing of the verse of Fletcher, the
noble march of the verse of Beaumont, the
subtle music of the verse of Shakespeare,
and the frigid rhetorical cadence of Mas-
singer — to judge the authorship of Eliza-
bethan plays almost entirely by diction ;
and to such an absurd length has this been
carried that one even objected to my attri-
bution of certain short passages of a
Shakespearian play to Massinger on the
ground that they showed none of his
favourite phrases, though, if this view were
pressed honestly and consistently to its-
logical conclusion, Massinger would be
robbed of 25 per cent of his acknowledged
work.
The first and best test is that of the ear,
for those who have ears ; the secondary
tests should be mathematical and mechani-
cal, dealing with the mechanism of the
sentence and with the mechanism of the
verse (though some tests, it is to be noted,
are much less valuable than others, since
the characteristics they deal with are
deliberate and easily imitable, while the
characteristics dealt with by other tests are
neither the one nor the other) ; and then on
the third line comes the diction ; while the
technique, the characterization, the imagery,,
and the habit of thought must remain very
unreliable guides.
Farmer and Dyce considered the play
Shirley's ; but I fail to see any reason for
such an attribution. Massinger also has
been suggested ; but there are not in the
whole play half-a-dozen lines that in the
very slightest degree remind me of that
dramatist. Of those writers with whom the
play has never been connected on any
grounds (however slight) of external evi-
dence, Beaumont is the only one of whom
I am sufficiently reminded to warrant any
real examination of his claim ; and, when
one bears in mind his connexion with
Fletcher and the date of the play, one may
be justified in adding his name to the names
12 S. V. MARCH, 1919.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
61
of Shakespeare, Fletcher, and Theobald as
those for whose characteristics special
search is to be made.
Mr. Bradford was the first critic to note
(or at least the first to announce the fact)
that a new voice became audible in the
third scene of Act III. ; and here let me
remark that with Mr. Bradford's division
of the play between the two original authors
I am in almost complete agreement — a fact
which may be worthy of note, inasmuch as
the result was not obtained by a mere
checking of Mr. Bradford's work, but by an
entirely independent examination, a com-
parison being made only after I had obtained
my own results and formed my own con-
clusions.
According to these, there is no Fletcher in
the play prior to III. iii., but thenceforward
he is dominant. In that scene both Fletcher
-and Theobald are detectable, but Theobald
has revised only the first nine speeches, the
remainder of his work being limited to the
providing of a closing couplet. The opening
part of IV. i. (to Julio's entry) is Fletcher's,
either pure or as revised by Theobald ; and
his too is that part of the scene lying between
Violante's re-entry and the entry of Roderick,
the conclusion being Theobald's. The next
scene, as far as " And those to come shall
sweetly sleep together," is wholly Fletcher's
'(though not very characteristic of him),
with the exception of the song, which must
be Theobald's : none of the Elizabethans
would have fathered it. The latter part of
the scene shows Theobald patching Fletcher's
work. We have more alteration of Fletcher
in V. i. ; and we have the same writer and
reviser present in the final scene from " Thou
.art a right one," though as far as " Duke.
Weep not, child," is untouched (but not
particularly characteristic) Fletcher, while
from " Leon. The righteous pow'rs at length
have crown' d our loves," nothing of the
original writer is left.
I may, I think, safely direct the attention
of any one who knows Fletcher (bearing in
mind that it is the Fletcher of the period
of ' Two Noble Kinsmen ' and ' Henry VIII.'
and ' Honest Man's Fortune,' and not the
Fletcher of the period of ' Rule a Wife ') to
such a passage as this from III. iii. : —
-She's stol'n away ; and whither gone I know not.
Cam. She has a fair blessing in being from you,
sir.
I was too poor a brother for your greatness :
You must be grafted into noble stocks
And have your titles rais'd. My state was
laughed at
And my alliance scorn'd. I 've lost a son too,J
Which must not be put up so.
And this from IV. i. : —
Mast. Have you learnt the whistle yet, and
when to fold,
And how to make the dog bring in the strayers ?
Viol. Time, sir, will furnish me with all these
rules.
My will is able, but my knowledge weak, sir.
Mast. That's a good child : why dost thou
blush, my boy ? —
'Tis certainly a woman. [A side.]— Speak, my boy.
Viol. Heav'n ! how I tremble ! — 'Tis unusual
to me
To find such kindness at a master's hand
That am a poor boy, ev'ry way unable,
Unless it be in pray'rs, to merit it.
Besides, J'ye often heard old people say
Too much indulgence makes boys rude and sawcy.
Mast. Are you so cunning ?
Viol. How his eyes shake fire
And measure ev'rj piece of youth about me !
[Aside.
The ewes want water, sir : shall I go drive 'em
Down to the cisterns ? Shall I make haste,
sir? —
'Would I were five miles from him! How he
gripes me ! [Aside.
Mast. Come, come, all this is not sufficient,
child,
To make a fool of me. This is a fine hand,
A delicate fine hand — never change colour :
You understand me — and a woman's hand.
And this from IV. ii. : —
I cannot get this false man's memory
Out of my mind. You maidens that shall live
To hear my mournful tale when I am ashes,
Be wise, and to an oath no more give credit,
To tears, to vows (false both), or any thing
A man shall promise, than to clouds, that
now
Bear such a pleasing shape, and now are
nothing ;
For they will cozen (if they may be cozen'd)
The very gods they worship.
And finally this from V. i. : —
And dare you lose these to be advocate
For such a brother, such a sinful brother,
Such an unfaithful, treacherous, brutal brother ?
Mr. Bradford has no hesitation about
claiming Fletcher as one of the original
writers of the play ; but he hesitates to
name Shakespeare as the other. One can,
however, unless I am mistaken, read
between the lines that he is only deterred
from doing so by that fear which most
people have of venturing to run counter to
the opinion of the many famous critics who
have expressed their views on the Shake-
speare canon. It needs even more courage
to declare any play outside of the canon to
be in any degree Shakespeare's than to
question the authenticity of scenes in the
canonical plays which the high Panjandrums
of the Elizabethan drama have treated as
indubitably genuine ; and, instead of blam-
ing Mr. Bradford for his reticence, we may
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be grateful to him for daring to say all he
has said. But, apart from the general
inclination to discredit any attribution to
Shakespeare of any play not clearly his on
the external evidence, the critics of the day
have made a " dead set "on * Double False-
hood.' Mr. D. Nichol Smith in his * Eigh-
teenth-Century Essays ' says that Theobald
in ascribing the play to Shakespeare " must
at least stand convicted of ignorance of the
Shakespearian manner " ; Sir Sidney Lee
maintains that " there is nothing in the
play as published by Theobald to suggest
Shakespeare's hand " ; and Prof. Lounsbury
declares that " there is scarcly a trace of
the great dramatist in it, even of his best or
worst manner." Mr. Bradford in his article
reminds me that I too have written similarly,
having pronounced the play to contain
" nothing that could have been written by
Fletcher or Shakespeare." So rash a state-
ment is characteristic of the attitude of
more than myself. When I made it a
quarter of a century ago in the course of an
examination into the authorship of the
Beaumont and Fletcher plays, I was so
overcome by the prevalence of the idea that
the play was by Theobald himself that,
supposing it outside my scope, I wasted no
time on it, but gave a mere casual glance
at a chance page or two of a copy in the
British Museum. I confess my fault and
retract. The play does contain much of
Fletcher's work : does it also contain any
of Shakespeare's ?
Mr. Bradford speaks, quite rightly, of the
presence of " a firmer, stronger hand " than
Fletcher's : this hand is to be found overlaid
by Theobald's in the first two speeches of
I. i. ; in I. ii. (with the exception of the 10
speeches beginning " Leon. What do you
mean ? ") ; in I. iii. ; in II. i. ; in II. ii. ;
in III. i. ; in the first 4 speeches of III. ii.
and in that portion of the scene lying between
" Scene opens to a large hall" and "Most
perjur'd if I do ' ; and in the 5 speeches
immediately succeeding Julio's entry in
IV. i. (the first of these being apparently free
from any impertinent intrusion on the
reviser's part). The balance of I. i. and
I. ii., the whole of II. iii. and II. iv., the
balance of III. ii., and the succeeding part
of IV. i. to the re-entry of Violante, seem
to be entirely the work of the reviser, though
in these portions of both III. ii. and IV. i.
there may possibly be relics of the older
writer.
Is Mr. Bradford's " firmer, stronger hand "
the hand of Shakespeare ? One is inclined
to see something of his bold, vigorous touch
in the use of " heirs " as a verb in I. i., and
in such lines as
Aa if she there sev'n reigns had slander 'd Time..
(I. iii.)
Those that subtly make their words their ward.
Keeping Address at distance. (I. ii.)
My flames are in the flint.
Haply, to lose a husband I may weep ;
Never to get one. (I. ii.)
Is not this a Shakespearian coinage set in a
Shakespearian construction ? —
What you can say is most unseasonable ; what
sing,
Most absonant and harsh. (I. iii.)
In II. i., printed as prose, we have a sentence
more like [Shakespeare than any one
" Not love,f but brutal violence prevail'd ; to-
which the time and place and opportunity were
accessaries most dishonourable " ;
and there are other lines that speak to me
(perhaps deceivingly) as Shakespeare's.
But, finally, let me quote a passage from
III. i. which it requires some boldness to
quote, since it contains the famous
line denounced by Pope as being too-
bathetical to be by any possibility Shake-
speare's : —
Is there a treachery like this in baseness
Recorded any where ? It is the deepest :
None but itself can be its parallel :
And from a friend profess'd ! — Friendship ? Why,
'tis
A word for ever maim'd : in human nature
It was a thing the noblest, and 'mong beasts
It stood not in mean place : things of fierce
nature
Bold amity and concordance. Such a villany
A writer could not put down in his scene
Without taxation of his auditory
For fiction most enormous.
I have not by me Theobald's defence of ih&
line which Pope ridiculed ; but he is stated
by Prof. Lounsbury to have shown conclu-
sively " that this particular line selected
for animadversion was not different in
character from several others to be found "
in Shakespeare. Gifford indeed took the
line as a proof of the Elizabethan origin of
the play ; and the same critic also pointed
out that the use of the word " comparison "
for "caparison" in I. iii. ("Throw all my
gay comparisons aside "), over which Pop&
made merry, was to be matched in Mas-
singer's * Picture ' (" Rich suits, the gay
comparisons of pride "), and that it con-
stituted a proof of Theobald's good faith.
Melbourne.
E. H. C. OLIPHANT.
(To be concluded.)
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63
INSCRIPTIONS IN
ST. JOHN THE EVANGELIST'S,
WATERLOO ROAD.
THESE abstracts were made in August, 1916.
A tablet in the south gallery was illegible.
NORTH SIDE.
1. Mary Jemima Shepard, sister of Mr. William
M.erritt, churchwarden of this church for many
years, chairman of the Board of Guardians, b. in
St. Margaret's, Westminster, Nov. 7, 1803 ; d.
May 2, 1891, a. 88.
2. Arthur Clifford Earp, sometime chorister of
this church, eldest son of Thomas Earp, sculptor,
d. July 11, 1886, a. 31.
3. Thomas Earp, sculptor, sometime church-
warden of this p., b. Jan. 31, 1828, d. Sept. 12,
1893, and was bur. in Nunhead Cemetery.
4. Henry William Herbert, b. Nov. 17, 1857,
d. Mar. 4, 1891, and was bur. in Norwood Ceme-
tery. He did his duty bravely and truly to his
home and neighbourhood.
6. Sarah Isherwood, b. Nov. 27, 1811, d. Nov. 2,
1887, who for 59 years worshipped in this church,
and during the whole of her life tried to do her
duty to her God, her church, and her parish.
6. George Thomas Baxter, Esq., d. Ap. 7, 1833,
a. 37. Mary, his wid., afterwards mar. to James
Anderton, Esq., d. May 8, 1854, a. 53. Bur. in
Highgate Cemetery.
7. Mr. James Braby, d. Jan. 11, 1846, a. 72.
Hannah, his wife, d. June 13, 1854, a. 79.
8. C.L.B. | St. John's Company. I B.I.P. I
S. W. Gardner, b. Jan. 1, 1891, d. July 5, 1904.
W. J. Hems, b. Dec. 25, 1890, d. Aug. 20, 1913.
IN THE CHANCEL, SOUTH.
9. A brass, now illegible.
10. Richard Maynard, gent., of St. Stephen's,
Cornwall, late of Upper Stamford St., d. Sept. 10.
1834, a. 40.
11. Martin Jones, churchwarden, d. July 29,
1827, a. 47.
SOUTH SIDE.
12. Mr. Richard Edwards, warden of this
church, d. Nov. 25, 1853, a. 57. Erected by
fellow-parishioners .
13. William George Trewby, husband of
Charlotte Trewby, d. June 18, 1899, a. 65.
14. John Charles Stahlschmidt, Esq., of this p.,
and of Weybridge, Surrey, member of the Royal
Hanoverian Guelphic Order, d. suddenly Ap. 20,
1842, a. 50. His dau. Edith Mary, d. Jan. 22,
1834, a. 2 y. 7 m. Sarah, his wid., dau. of the
late Thomas Lett of this p., d. on the Feast of the
Annunciation, 1890, a. 86.
15. The Rev. Donald Trewby, M.A., b. Ap. 13,
1861, d. Aug. 30, 1896, chaplain at Dum Dum,
Calcutta, formerly curate of this parish.
16. Haud procul ab hoc loco sepultus est |
Robertus Gulielmus Elliston | cujus memoriae
sacrum liberi sui superstites | (amicis etiam
quibusdam opem afferentibus) J hoc marmor
non sine lachrymis ponendum curaverunt.
Optimus ille parens ingenio capaci praeditus.
Natus est septimo die Aprilis MDCCLXXIV, | et,
spe melioris sevi, mortem obiit | octavo die Julii
MDCCCXXXI.
Dum pia Melpomene, nato pereunte querelas
Fundit, et ante alias orba Thalia gemit ;
Non minus in fletus fldi solvuntur amici.
Non minus egregii pignora chara tori :
jSSquum, et propositi deplorant grande tenacem,
Eximiee fldei justitiseque, virum.
17. Vivian Trewby, a. 25, trooper, 51 Company
Imperial Yeomanry (Paget's Horse), youngest son
of William George and Charlotte Trewby, killed in
action at Kaalkraal, S. Africa, May 5, 1901, and
bur. by the Boers.
18. John Charles Napleton, B.A., third incum-
bent of this church, b. St. James's day, 1810, at
Powderham Rectory, Devon, d. Ap. 13, 1867.
19. Of your charity pray for the soul of James
Aitken Johnston, Vicar of St. John's, and patron
of this church, who departed this life Aug. 29,
1871. Jesu Mercy.
20. [A window] Arthur James Davey, for
20 years Head Master of St. John's Boys' School,
d. Oct. 30, 1901.
21. Richard Wicksteed, b. at Shifnal, Salop,
1767, d. in this p., 1828.
22. George, son of Alethea Desborough, d. Aug.,
1841, and was bur. in this churchyard.
23. Harry Charles Thompson, b. Feb/10,"1866,
d. Feb. 14, 1876. A member of the choir.
IN THE CHANCEL,"1 NORTH.
24. William Philip, only son of Jeremiah and
Hester Dean, of Bishopsgate St., d. Nov. 19, 1831,
a. 21. Hester, his mother, d. Nov. 22, 1834, a. 60.
25. Edward Vere, Esq., of this p. and Oxford
Lodge, Croydon, d. Aug. 4, 1843, a. 73. Erected
by his son and daughter.
26. Ann Kirk, d. Feb. 26, 1887, a. 54. Erected
by her son.
IN NORTH GALLERY.
27. Thomas Lett, Esq., d. Aug. 25, 1830, a. 60.
He was for many years a magistrate of the county
of Surrey, and High Sheriff in 1817.
28. [On the Lectern] This lectern and Bible were
given to the church of St. John, Waterloo Road,
by the Rev. N. E. Muggeridge in memory of his
brother, John Frederick Muggeridge.
29. [On the processional cross] To the glory of
God. In memory of M. W. Sheppard, d. July 27,
1896. R.I.P.
INDEX OP NAMES.
Anderton, 6 Hems, 8 Muggeridge, 28 !
Baxter, 6 Herbert, 4 Napleton, 18
Braby, 7 Isherwood, 5 Shepard, 1
Davey, 20 Johnston, 19 Sheppard, 29
Dean, 24 Jones, 11 Stahlschmidt, 14
Desborough, 22 Kirk, 26 Thompson, 23
Earp, 2, 3 Lett, 14, 27 Trewby,13,15,17
Edwards, 12 Maynard, 10 Vere, 25
Elliston, 16 Merritt, 1 Wicksteed, 21
Gardner, 8
INDEX OP PLACES.
Bishopsgate St., 24 Powderham, Dev., 18 1
Croydon, 25 St. Margaret's, West-
Dum Dum, 15 minster, 1
Highgate Cemetery, 6 St. Stephen's, Cor~-
Kaalkraal,South Africa, wall, 10
17 Shifnal, Salop, 21
Norwood Cemetery, 4 Stamford Street, 10 *•
Nunhead Cemetery, 3 Weybridge, Surrey, 14
G. S. PARRY, Lieut.-Col.
17 Ashley Mansions, S.W.I.
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[ AVIATION IN THE EIGHTEENTH CENTURY.
— Some day the would-be historian of flying
will be searching the indexes of ' N. & Q.'
for antiquarian lore on the subject. He will
find the following singularly prophetic verses
in a quarto pamphlet entitled ' The Scrib-
leriad: an Heroic Poem' (R. Dodsley, 1751).
The anonymous writer was Richard Owen
Cambridge (see book iv. p. 15) : —
Let brisker youths their active nerves prepare,
Fit their light silken wings and skim the buxom
air.
* * * * *
Mov'd by my words, two youths of equal fire
Spring from the crowd and to the prize aspire :
The one, a German, of distinguished fame ;
His rival from projecting Britain came.
They spread their wings, and with a rising bound
Swift at the word, together quit the ground.
The Briton's rapid flight outstrips the wind ;
The lab'ring German urges close behind,
As some slight bark pursu'd by ships of force
St'-etches each sail to swell her swifter course.
The nimble Briton from his rival flies,
And soars on bolder pinions to the skies.
Sudden the string, which bound his plumage,
broke ;
His naked arms in yielding air he shook.
His naked arms no more support his weight,
But fail him ; sinking from his airy height,
Yet as he falls — so chance, or fate, decreed —
His rival near urged his winged speed
Not unobserv'd (despair suggests a thought) :
Fast by the foot the heedless youth he caught,
And drew the insulting victor to the ground
While rocks and woods with loud applause
resound.
The word " insulting" is obviously a mis-
print in the original for " exulting."
There is a full -page copperplate frontis-
piece depicting the rivals in mid-air, while
a large crowd of learned savants watch the
race. The Englishman flies by means of a
pair of fluted fans attached to his shoulder-
blades, and working on a kind of swivel or
ball -jointed socket. The German bears on
each shoulder a long rod, at each end of
which is a species of inverted bricklayer's hod.
That an airman could fly by means of either
apparatus calls for considerable imagination.
W. JAGGABD, Capt.
4 London Wall Buildings, E.C.2.
INSCRIPTION ON SEAL. (See 9 S. ix. 329.)
— A query remains alive until it has had
its note. The legend concerning which
MB. E. MONTEITH MACPHAIL inquired in
1902 is in the language of Tonga, and may
be readily recovered in the queried form
ofa taitoogoo from the vocabulary in the
second volume of Mariner. The language
has since been standardized, and the or-
thography improved over Mariner's rather
creditable effort a century ago. In the
vocabulary of the Rev. Shirley Waldemar
Baker, a most remarkable missionary, we
find ofa taetuku as love everlasting. Ofa
properly designates a set of emotions which
find a pneumogastric reaction — love, but
quite as much grief and compassion ; the
second word is composite of the negative
tae (not a pure diphthong, but a glide of the
two vowels with Italian phonetic value)
and of tuku, to cease.
WILLIAM CHURCHILL.
Cosmos Club, Washington, B.C.
[MB. MACPHAIL, from whom we were glad to
insert a reply last month (p. 48), will doubtless be
grateful to our American correspondent ior now
answering his query of so many years ago.]
JOHN FLAMSTEED : DR. EDMOND HALLEY.
—I am indebted to Mr. Ralph J. Beevor,
of Reymerston, Manor Road, St. Albaner
for the extracts given below from Baily's
* Life of Flamsteed ' (London, 1835) :—
" A correspondence began with Mr. Bossley, an.
apothecary of Bakewell in Derbyshire, and Mr.
Luke Leigh, a poor kinsman of Mr. Bailey's, of
the same clan, and myself [1696]."— P. 63.
" Mr. Leigh I hired to calculate the places of
the fixed stars." — P. 64.
" 1712, June 18. Dr. Bailey came, and
brought his wife, son, and daughter with him." —
P. 229.
"Mar. 8, 1704/5. Letter from Mr. Flamsteed
to Mr. Bossley. ' I received a letter from Mr.
Leigh a great while ago to acknowledge the
receipt of a relief I sent him to support him in his
sickness.' "—P. 236.
Mr. Beevor expresses the opinion that
the word " clan " in the earliest of the
above extracts, which he was at first in-
clined to treat as a synonym of " place "
(Bakewell), may, perhaps, be used as a
synonym for " profession " or " calling,"
and imply only that Luke Leigh also was
an apothecary. " In any case it seems
pretty clear that he was of Derbyshire."
The register of Bakewell can hardly fail
to give some Halley information.
EUGENE F. McPiKE.
4450 Woodlawn Avenue, Chicago, 111.
MB. JUSTICE MAULE ON * BIGAMY AND
DIVOBCE. — Readers of legal ana are familiar
with the severe satire on the law of divorce
as it then existed which was embodied by
the above judge (see ante, p. 7) in a nominal
sentence for bigamy. The ' D.N.B.' places
this at Warwick Assizes, so far agreeing
with the detailed account in Walton's
' Random Recollections of the Midland
Circuit' (1869), where the spring of 1845
12 S. V. MAECH, 1919.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
65
is given as the date of the trial ; but Walton
gives the sentence as four months' im-
prisonment with hard labour, whilst the
* D.N.B.' puts it as one day. A quite
recent book, ' In the Days of Victoria :
some Memories of Men and Things,' by
Thomas F. Plowman (1918), however, relates
that the author was present when the
incident occurred " in the spring of 1854 "
at Oxford Assizes, he being then a lad of
some ten years old and living with his
father, a well-known resident of Oxford.
Mr. Plowman says : —
" I can still see the pathetic figure of the poor
blubbering man as he stood in the dock, having
pleaded guilty, and in broken accents appealed for
mercy. He was a coal-heaver, and he looked it.
He was in the old-fashioned clothes of his calling
in those days, including breeches and thick
worsted stockings. He told how his wife had
rendered his house desolate by robbing it, and
then running away with the paramour. He
waited some years, and, hearing nothing of her,
married again, and was living happily when she
swooped down upon him and informed against
him for bigamy."
These irreconcilable statements as to the
time and place of an occurrence which
became almost classic in its bearing on the
change in divorce law are not without
interest, and it should not be difficult to
disinter the correct version from con-
temporary newspapers, &c., or to ascertain
whether Mr. Justice Maule presided on the
Midland Circuit in the spring of 1845, and
«n the Oxford Circuit in the spring of 1854.
W. B. H.
BEWDLEY APPRENTICES AND MOTHERING
SUNDAY. — A quaint practice prevailed at
Bewdley in the early part of the nineteenth
century. The mother church of Ribsford
has two porches. That on the south was
known as the " Refreshment Porch " ; in it
pewter plates and horn mugs were kept
and on Mothering Sunday cakes and meac
were freely provided, and placed ready to
hand for the use of apprentices coming home
to visit friends. The food was left un
guarded, but none of the townsfolk at
tempted to take it. The cakes and meac
were put there early on Sunday morning
The cakes were baked at Webster's in the
High Street. The mead was brewed in a
large earthenware pan some two or three
days previous. It was composed of oranges
lemons, and spice. The whole was paid
for out of the Church Rate. It would be
interesting to know if other towns made a
like provision for hungry and thirsty
apprentices. J. HARVEY BLOOM.
JAMES EDMUND SCRIPPS. — British bio-
graphers may like to know that James
"dmund Scripps (1835-1906), the founder
of The Detroit News, was born in London,
though he went to America at the age of
nine, settling near Rushville, 111., and
Beginning his journalistic career on The
Chicago Democratic Press in 1857. He
bunded The Detroit News in 1873. Its
listory has just been told in a beautifully
produced quarto, issued by the News.
J. M. BULLOCH.
37 Bedford Square, W.C.I.
" SHEER HULK " : " THE SPANISH MAIN."
— The following remarks in ' Some Recol-
ections ' of Admiral Sir Cyprian Bridge
have attracted my attention, and may
perhaps claim that of other students of
' N. & Q.' :—
" The ship's masts had to be brought to her and
put in place. This was done at our naval ports
by means of sheers .... At Devonport they were
erected in a hulk lying in the stream, and always
spoken of as ' the sheer hulk.' This recalls a
ridiculous mistake in the song which says —
.... a sheer hulk lies poor Tom Bowling.
What is meant is, of course, a mere hulk ; for a
sheer hulk was a much used and very useful
vessel. The mistake is only one of several which
landsmen are likely to make when they put
sailors' expressions into print. The ' Spanish
Main ' is often referred to in books as if it were
part of the sea ; whereas it is simply the sailors'
translation of tierra firme, and means the Spanish
mainland in Mexico and in Central and South
America as distinguished from the Spanish
islands in the West Indies." — P. 65.
ST. SWITHIN
[The ' N.E.D.' says, s.v. ' Sheer-hulk, shear-
hulk ': "The etymologically preferable spelling
shear-hulk is little used. In the popular figurative
use of the word, derived from nautical songs, the
first element is often misunderstood as sheer adj.,
and the compound written as two words." The
line from Dibdin is quoted as the earliest figurative
use.
Under ' Spanish,' 1, b, the Dictionary has :
" Spanish Main, the mainland of America adja-
cent to the Caribbean Sea, esp. that portion of the
coast stretching from the Isthmus of Panama to
the mouth of the Orinoco ; in later use also, the
sea contiguous to this, or the route traversed
by the Spanish register ships." Longfellow's
' Wreck of the Hesperus ' (1839) is quoted in
illustration of the later use.]
SNODGRASS SURNAME IN IRELAND IN
1665. — Amongst the persons who paid
hearth tax in 1665 were Thomas Snodgrass,
parish of Cloiileigh, townland of Ballybogan,
and Robert Snodgrass, parish of Raphoe,
townland of Beltany. See Lecky, ' The
Laggan and its Presbyterianism,' 1905,
pp. 112-13.. J. ARDAGH.
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NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. v. MARCH, 1919
WE must request correspondents desiring in-
formation on family matters of only private interest
to affix their names and addresses to their queries,
in order that answers may be sent to them direct.
'ALUMNI CANTABBIGIENSES.' — A notice
has been issued by the Cambridge University
Press that an * Alumni Cantabrigienses ' is
in preparation. It will be on the general
lines of Mr. Joseph Foster's well-known
* Alumni Oxonienses,' but will be, it is
hoped, in several respects more complete
in its extent. It is, in fact, proposed to
include every known Cambridge name from
the earliest historical date, i.e., from about
1250.
The experience I have gained from
similar work in the case of a single college
(Gonville and Caius) has convinced me that
much loss would be avoided if those in-
terested in such an undertaking could send
information before publication. What I have
found is that after publication the compiler
receives a large amount of useful information
and many corrections when it is too late
to make public use of them.
What I would suggest is that every one
who can supply facts about any Cambridge
man, of a private kind, or which from any
cause do not get into ordinary printed
records, should communicate them to me.
This would apply especially to family
histories and pedigrees. Further assistance,
would be welcomed from those who have
devoted attention to such special branches
of research as county or parochial history,
the records of any particular school or pro-
fession, members of Parliament, titled per-
sons, &c. The sooner such information
can be sent the better.
These remarks apply especially to Part I.
of the work, 1250-1752, which contains
nearly 80,000 names, as to many of which
we have, at present, no further information
beyond what is contained in the College
Admission Registers and ' Graduati.'
JOHN VENN.
Caius College, Cambridge.
'THE POOR THRESHER,' SONG BY BURNS.
B. Reid's ' A Complete Word and
Phrase Concordance to the Poems and Songs
of Robert Burns,' Glasgow, 1889, gives on
pp. 4, 228, 339, 380, 482, and doubtless else-
where, lines from " (S.) The Poor Thresher."
This song I have been unable to find in any
edition of Burns which I have. I write
therefore to ask if any one can tell me of an
edition of Burns in which it appears, and,
if not, what ground there is for stating that
it was written by Burns.
I am particularly interested in this ballad
because I have heard it sung by an old
friend of mine, who learned it from his
grandmother, who probably learned it from
some one about the year 1800.
CHARLES E. STRATTON.
70 State Street, Boston, Mass.
RICHARD BAXTER OF ' THE SAINTS' REST.'
— Research in American libraries has failed
to disclose the names of the children of
Richard Baxter, father of the author of
' The Saints' Rest '—in other words, the
brothers and sisters of the eminent divine.
It is said that his brother Thomas had a
son Francis C. (Charlton), born 1681, who-
emigrated to America in 1698 with relatives
named Benson. Where can records of
Richard senior's family be found ?
Portland, Maine. J' P* B<ir»
" NABLETTE " : " BONTEFEU." - In »
recent reading of Clarendon's ' History of
the Great Rebellion,' I ran across two words
in the first volume which I do not find in
any dictionary. These words are " Nab-
lette," used in connexion with the word
" murderer," as part of the equipment of
a vessel, and " Bontefeu," used as a rather
contemptuous expression referring to an
individual. Can readers of ' N. & Q.'
throw any light upon the meaning of these
words ? ' BERNARD C. STEINER.
Enoch Pratt Free Library, Baltimore, Md.
HENRY BUNNETT, ARTIST. — About thirty
years ago I employed an able English
artist whose work will carry him down to-
posterity. I should like to know some-
thing of his history. It was said that the-
name at the head of this query was only
his nom de pinceau.
DAVID Ross McCoRD.
McCord National Museum,
Temple Grove, Montreal.
VIRGIL ON QUARRELS. — Dr. Butler, th&
Master of Trinity, quoted in 1888 from a
translation of Virgil, ' ^En.' ii. 104 ("Hoc
Ithacus velit, et magno mercentur Atridse "),
Intestine quarrels place an obvious lever
In every hand of every unbeliever.
Whose translation is this ? G. H. J.
CREIGHTON ON HISTORY. — Bp. Creighton
is quoted as saying to the effect that
" History is the best cordial for drooping
spirits." What is the reference ?
G. H. J.
12 s. V.MARCH, i9i9.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
67
FABLE OF COUNTRYMAN : REFERENCE
WANTED. — A countryman bargained to
possess a field until the first crop on it came
to maturity, and planted acorns. What is
the source of this fable ? I have looked
through Babrius and ^Esop without finding
it. Is it, perhaps, Russian or Oriental ?
W. H. J.
GARNHAM AND HILLMAN FAMILIES. —
Roger Garnham, gent., of Chieveley, Berks,
died 1703. He married Martha, daughter
of Robert Hillman (armiger) of Prior's
Court, Chieveley, by his wife Miss Goddard,
sister of Francis Goddard, Esq., of Cliff
Pypard Manor, Wilts. To which branch
of the Hillman family did Robert
belong ? The following arms of Hillman
impaling Goddard are on the monuments
in Chieveley Church : Arg., three bends
sable. Were these Hillmans related to the
Hillmans of Ramsbury Park, Wilts ? Any
information will be gratefully received.
LEONARD C. PRICE.
GLAMORGAN VOLUNTEER RANGERS. — I
should be grateful if any one could give me
information about the above corps. When
was it founded ? Does it still exist ? Its
badge was " G. R." between two sprays,
a crown above ; on the top a trumpet held
up by a ribbon and tassels.
LEONARD C. PRICE.
Essex Lodge, Ewell, Surrey.
TENNYSON. — I have in my possession a
fragment of a poem evidently by (and in
the handwriting of) Lord Tennyson. Part
of this has been torn, and part cut away,
and I am unable to decipher more than the
following words : —
[An]d dimpling eddies kiss the shore
And in the shingle crisp
.... pies wrinkles to the door
[An]d round the threshold lisp.
If any reader of * N. & Q.' could identify
these lines or give me the context, I should
be grateful. I may add that reference to a
Tennyson concordance has been of no avail.
A. STANTON WHITFIELD, F.R.Hist.S.
16 High Street, Walsall, Staffs.
HERODIAS AND ST. JOHN THE BAPTIST'S
HEAD. — In a window of Winchester Cathe-
dral Library is a panel of early sixteenth-
century French glass depicting Herodias
mutilating the head of St. John the Baptist
with a knife. Other representations of the
subject appear in the west window of Wells
Cathedral (also in early sixteenth -century
French glass), and in a late fifteenth-century
window in Gresford Church, Denbighshire ;
whilst the mutilated head lying in a charger
appears to have been a favourite subject of
English alabaster tablet carvers.
Where can I find the authority for this
incident ? The ' Legenda Aurea ' is silent
on the subject, though it states that " when
Herodias held the head between her hands
she was much joyful, but by the will of God
the head blew in her visage, and she died
forthwith." JOHN D. LE COUTEUB.
Southsea.
ROBERT SIMPSON, ROYAL FARRIER. —
Robert Simpson, born Aug. 30, 1777 —
eldest Fon of James Simpson by his first wife,
Nell Forrestor (married about 1774 at
Cramond), who claimed descent from the
Lords Forrestor of Corstorphine — was farrier
to Frederick, Duke of York, son of King
George III. Robert Simpson married a
Miss Hastie, and had issue.
Will the descendants of the said Robert
please communicate with me ?
JAMES SETON-ANDERSON.
BOUMPHREY FAMILY OF LIVERPOOL AND
MANCHESTER. — I am interested in this
family, and should be glad of information
relating thereto. Is the family connected
with that of Count Boumphre of France ?
JAMES SETON-ANDERSON.
18 Culverden Down, Tunbridge Wells.
WILL. FISHER SHRAPNEL, F.S.A., d,
c. 1817. Was he related to the contem-
porary inventor of the shell ? He appears
to have been surgeon to the Gloucester
Militia before 1799, at which date he became
physician to Berkeley Castle. In 1805 I find
him established in the Gate -House there,
and honoured with the old title of " Con-
stable of Berkeley," held in former days by
the Thorpe family of Wanswell manor.
ST. CLAIR BADDELEY.
HAWKS TO CATCH SALMON. — An Act
passed in the reign of William and Mary-
prohibits at a certain season the taking of
salmon of any age by hawks, racks, gins,
&c. Is the word " hawks " here used for
the bird, or does it mean some kind of net
known by that name ? J. H. GURNEY.
Keswick Hall, Norwich.
[The * New English Dictionary ' defines " hawk"
as " a kind of fish-trap," and cites as the earliest
quotation for this use of the word the following
from Worlidge's ' System of Agriculture ' (1669) ;
" There is a sort of Engine, by some termed a
Hawk, made almost like unto a Fish-pot, being a
square frame of Timber fitted to the place. . . .and
wrought with Wire to a point almost, so that
what Fish soever go through the saix2, cannot go
back again."]
68
NOTES AND QUERIES. 112 s. v. MARCH, 1919.
FRANCIS HARVEY OF NATAL. — I wonder
if some reader of ' N. & Q.' has in his
possession, and would lend me for perusal
and bibliographical purposes, a series of
pamphlets written by Francis Harvey of
Verulam in Natal, father of the late Thos.
Morgan Harvey of London. He wrote
under the pseudonym of Zethar an auto-
biographical account of his early days in
Phillack, Cornwall.
J. HAMBLEY HOWE, M.B.
88 Horton Grange Road, Bradford.
CHEVELEY AND TUDGAY, MARINE
PAINTERS. — I am desirous of obtaining
particulars about John Cheveley (born 1745,
died 1786 : was he a lieutenant in the navy ?)
and - - Tudgay, both painters of marine
subjects. The latter lived during the middle
of the nineteenth century. A. B — N.
CANTWELL FAMILY. — Information about
the crest and history of the Irish branch of
the Cantwell family will be welcomed.
Please write direct to E. J. CANTWELL.
14 Claude Road, Drumcondra, Dublin.
ABANAZAR. — A distinguished popular
journalist has forgotten De Quincey's warn-
ing that " as people read nothing in these
days that is more than forty-eight hours
old, I am daily admonished that allusions,
the most obvious, to anything in the rear of
our own time need explanation." The
writer, in criticizing some statesmen now in
power, refers to them as " Abanazars " who
have involved themselves in a new mess
more awkward than the one from which they
recently struggled. The reference is not
explicable in the books ordinarily in a public
library. Who was Abanazar ?
NEWS READER.
DUDLEY BERNARD OR BARNARD. — In-
formation is sought concerning Dudley
Bernard, son of Abel of Clewer, Berks,
gent., of St. Albans Hall. Matric. Oct. 11,
1639, age 18 ; M. A. 1642 ; B.D. June 6,
1646. Of what parish was he vicar, and
when and where did he die ?
H. C. BARNARD.
JOHN HAGGATT — described in the original
MSS. as of Magdalen Coll., Oxford, and as a
son of Bartholomew Haggatt of Wells,
Somerset — was installed by proxy in the
prebend of Comb XV., Wells Cathedral,
pursuant to the mandate of Bishop Gilbert,
on June 6, 1581. I shall be grateful if one
of your readers who has access to the usual
books of reference will kindly inform us of
what parish he was the vicar. He appar-
ently died 1588, as in that year his successor
was installed as prebendary in Comb XV.
His name is not in Weaver's ' Somerset
Incumbents.' He could not be the John
Haggatt of Somerset who matriculated at
Magdalen Coll., Nov. 24, 1581, aged 16—
six months later. H. C. BARNARD.
Burnham, Somerset.
HELICON LLOYD OF MERIONETHSHIRE. —
Can any reader give particulars about this
personage, and say where in this county he
lived ? ANEURIN WILLIAMS.
SUSANNAH OWENS. — Information concern-
ing Susannah Owens, known as " Egg gal,"
who was married at Keith Chapel Aug. 4,
1748, will oblige.
ANEURIN WILLIAMS.
Menai View, North Road, Carnarvon.
BIBLIOGRAPHY OF EPITAPHS. — Is it pos-
sible to compile a list of works on or dealing
witeh pitaphs ? J. W. FAWCETT.
Consett, co. Durham.
[The Catalogue of Books in the Beading-Boom
of the British Museum has the following under
' Epitaphs ' : —
English Monumental Inscriptions Society.
Begister of English Monumental Inscriptions.
1911, &c. 8vo.
Jervise (A.). Epitaphs and Inscriptions from
Burial-Grounds and Old Buildings in the North-
East of Scotland. 2 vols. 1875, '79. 8vo.
Parsons (P.). Monuments and Painted Glass
of upwards of 100 Churches, chiefly in Kent.
1794. 4to.
Pettigrew (T. J.). Chronicles of the Tombs.
(Bohn's Beference Library.) 1888. 8vo.
Suffling (E. B.). Epitaphia : being a Collec-
tion of 1300 British Epitaphs. 1909. 8vo.
Other works on the subject are : —
Cansick (F. T.). Epitaphs from Monuments in
St. Pancras. 2 vols. 1869-72. 8vo.
Cansick (F. T.). Epitaphs from Monuments in
Hornsey, Tottenham, Edmonton, Enfield, Friern
Barnet, Hadley. 1875. 8vo.
Bavenshaw (T. F.). Antiente Epitaphes (from
A.D. 1250 to A.D. 1800). 1878. 8vo.
Weever (J.). Antient Funerall Monuments, of
Great-Britain, Ireland, and the Islands Adjacent.
1767. fol.]
' STRUWWELPETER ' IN ENGLISH. — ' Der
Struwwelpeter,' first published in 1845, is
now in its 405th edition. It is the most
popular of the works of Heinrich Hoffmann,
a doctor of medicine, who was born at
Frankfort-on-the-Main, June 13, 1809, and
died there Sept. 20, 1894. The English
translation, which is at least as good as the
original, would appear to have been pub-
lished simultaneously. At any rate, the
B. M. Catalogue says that the 4th edition
of the English version was published at
Leipsic in 1848. Is it known who wrote it ?
12 8. V. MARCH, 1919.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
69
How many English editions have there
been ? There was one published by Blackie
& Son in 1903, and another by G. Routledge
& Sons in 1909. Its continued popularity
is shown by Mr. E. V. Lucas's * Swollen-
headed William,' which appeared in 1914 ;
and by ' The Struwwelpeter Alphabet ' and
' The Political Struwwelpeter,' both by Mr.
Harold Begbie, which appeared in or about
1900. JOHN B. WAINEWBJGHT.
" LICK INTO SHAPE " : " LAMBENDO
EFFINGERE." — The latter phrase is attributed
by Suetonius in his Life of Virgil, § 22, to
that poet with reference to the ' Georgics.'
Is there a Greek equivalent ?
JOHN B. WAINE WRIGHT.
Union Club, Trafalgar Square, S.W.I.
COLERIDGE ON " BULLY." — Coleridge in
his ' Omniana,' speaking of inconsistency,
says : —
" What are these men's minds but a huge
lumber-room of bully, that is, of incompatible
notions brought together by a feeling without a
sense of connection ? "
What is the origin of Coleridge's " bully " ?
J. J. FREEMAN.
Shepperton -on -Tb ames .
J. TURNER, PAINTER c. 1820. — Some
AVelsh pictures by J. Turner were engraved
and published March and April, 1821. Was
he related to J. M. W. Turner ?
OCTAVIUS TOMS ON.
7 Grantchester Street, Cambridge.
' IRRELAGH ; OR, THE LAST OF THE
CHIEFS.' — Who was the author of this Irish
story ? The copy I possess is bereft of its
title-page. All that I can glean concerning
it is provided by the dedication (to Queen
Victoria). It was written at Danesport,
Killarney, in 1849, and was published "to
alleviate in some degree that affliction
[the great famine of 1848], especially in the
case of two poor boys, left destitute by the
failure of the Killarney Savings' Bank."
J. B. McGovERN.
St. Stephen's Rectory, C.-on-M., Manchester.
MORLAND GALLERY, FLEET STREET.
Sir Richard Phillips says in the 1806 edition
of ' The Picture of London ' (p. 259) :—
" This gallery comprises one hundred paintings
of this admired artist. . . .They are the property
of a private gentleman."
I shall be obliged by further reference to
this exhibition. Presumably it was held at
Macklin's Gallery and J. R. Smith was the
organizer. It will be recalled that his
exhibition of thirty-six pictures at 31 King
Street, Covent Garden, was specifically for
he purpose of attracting subscribers for the
ingravings, all the pictures exhibited being
afterwards engraved. The catalogue of
prints issued by Smith from this address
'ncludes there works. Is there any definite
evidence of his association with the Fleet
Street exhibition ? ALECK ABRAHAMS.
FINKLE STREET. — There are streets so
named at Barton-on-Humber and at Kendal.
I should be glad to hear of other examples —
also of any explanation of a supposed
derivation of " Finkle " from a word mean-
ng a bend or elbow, or similar deviation
rom a straight line. J. T. F.
Winterton, Lines.
[The subject was discussed at some length at
6 S. iv. 166, 366, 467 ; v. 257, 476 ; viii. 503, 522.]
MARTIN HETON, Bishop of Ely, is stated
in the ' Diet. Nat. Biog.,' xxvi. SOI, to have
left two daughters, one of whom was
married to Sir Robert Filmer and the other
to Sir Edward Fish. Can any corre-
spondent tell me when and whom Heton
married ? G. F. R. B.
EDWARD HYDE, D.D., Royalist divine,
was one of the eleven sons of Sir Lawrence
Hyde of Salisbury. I should be glad to
obtain particulars of his mother, and to
know when and whom he married. The
* Diet. Nat. Biog.,' xxviii. 369, is silent on
these points. G. F. R. B.
FRENCH PROVERB ON POLITICS. — There is
a French saying, " Dans la politique il faut
ne prendre rien au tragique et tout au
serieux." This has been attributed to
Thiers, but some say it is much older. To
whom is it rightly ascribed ?
HENRY SAMUEL BRANDRETH.
ST. DUNSTAN'S - IN - THE - EAST : ITS
CHARITIES AND SCHOOLS.— Can any reader
give me details of educational charities,
schools, &c., connected with the parish of
St. Dunstan-in-the-East, London, prior to
1888 ? I shall deem it a favour if corre-
spondence be addressed directly to me.
G. KENNETH STRUGNELL.
30 Carholme Road, Forest Hill, S.E.23.
A " CREST " OF CREST - CLOTH is men-
tioned in the « N.E.D.' as having been a
recognized quantity of the cloth, but the
quantity is not defined. Is it known what
it was ? The Winchester College accounts
show (under custus aule) that in 1442-3 the
price per ell for 17| ells of crest-cloth was
4^d., and that in 1443-4 the price per crest
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or 10 crests of it was I8d. If one could
assume that in each of these cases the price
was really the same, then one would infer
that 4 ells (i.z. 5 yards) made a crest. But
how can one justify the assumption ? In
1440-1 the price per crest for 6 crests was
lid. ; and in 1444-5 the price per crest for
7 crests was 19d., with Id. off the total cost
to reduce it to 11s. H. C.
SOUTH SHIELDS : VICARS OF ST. HILDA'S.
— Can any reader supply me with the
names missing from the list of vicars of
St. Hilda's, South Shields, between 1418,
when William Younger was appointed vicar,
and 1553, when Thomas Ellison was ap-
pointed ? I shall also be glad of any
names previous to 1321, when Robert de
Dalton was appointed vicar.
HAYDN T. GILES.
11 Ravensbourne Terrace, South Shields.
THE ST. HELENA 'LIFE OF MARL-
BOROUGH.' — In Frederic Masson's 'Napoleon
& Sainte Helene,' vol. ii. p. 199, there is
the following statement: —
'* C'est un exemplaire, reli6 avec luxe, de cette
Histoire de Jean Churchill, due de Marl borough,
etc., etc., imprim6e par ordre de Sa Majest6
Imperiale (k Paris, de I'lmprimerie imperiale,
1'annee 1806)."
1 am unacquainted with this work, and I
should be glad to have particulars of it, and
also to be informed where I can refer to a
copy of it.
Coxe's « Memoirs of John, Duke of Marl-
borough,' presented by Napoleon to the
20th Regiment, and still in the archives of
that regiment, was printed in London in
1819. The book to which M. Masson refers
cannot have been a translation of Coxe's
work, so that the statement of this famous
French writer is puzzling.
LEES KNOWLES.
To AD- JUICE. — Has the liquid which exudes
from the skin of a toad any value which is
recognized in orthodox medicine ? I ask
this on account of the following passage in
Mr. W. H. Hudson's ' Far Away and Long
Ago.' The scene was in La Plata, and the
actor one Don Evaristo Penalva : —
" I remember that his cure for shingles, a
common and dangerous ailment in that region,
was regarded as infallible. The malady took the
form of an eruption, like erysipelas, on the middle
of the body, and extending round the waist till
it formed a perfect zone. ' If the zone is not
complete I can cure the disease,' Don Evaristo
would say. He would send some one down to the
river to procure a good-sized toad ; then, causing
the patient to strip, he would take pen and ink
and write on the skin in the space between the
two ends of the inflamed region, in stout letters,
the words ' In the name of the Father,' &c. This
done, he would take the toad in his hand and
gently rub it on the inflamed part, and the toad,
enraged at such treatment, would swell himself
up almost to bursting and exude a poisonous
milky secretion from his warty skin. That was
all, and the man got well." — Pp. 183-4.
I think this batrachian may have been not
a common toad, but Ceratophrys ornata,
of which Mr. Hudson speaks in an earlier
chapter than that from which I quote.
ST. SWITHIN.
WHISTLER : POPE. — Is there any mention
of Alexander Pope in the Whistler pedigree,
or of the Rev. Ambrose Staveley and Samuel
Cooper the artist ? The graves of the Rev.
W. Pyne (1585-1658) and his daughter
Dorothy Pope (1669) are in Micheldever
Church. The present Vicar would be glad
to receive items about the parish to insert in
a book on the subject.
Any proof that Thomas Pope, at Twicken-
ham, 1697, was related to Alexander Pope of
the same place, 1715, would be received with
thanks. A. C. H.
SCHOOL PRIZE COMPOSITIONS. — At Bed-
ford School, and, I believe, elsewhere, it is
the custom for Classical and English prize
compositions to be sent in tied up with
bright ribbons. The practice is traditional,
but no one here seems to know its origin.
Can any of your readers enlighten me as to
its origin and prevalence ? T. K. E. B.
Bedford School.
OLD STAINED GLASS.— Can any reader
tell me of any articles or pamphlets, illus-
trated or otherwise, published on this
subject during the last two years ?
Norwich. WM' M' DODSON-
SUBMERGED TRACKS OR FOOTPATHS. —
Was there an established system in the
North of England of marking a track or
footpath that was liable to be overflowed by
the tide ? PINFOLDER.
Hartlepool.
AUTHOR OP QUOTATION WANTED.— A recently
published work quotes these lines "by an
American bard " : —
Many a man on the road of life
Succeeds where another fails ;
Johnny is writing stories,
An' Billy is splitting rails.
Johnny is makin' a name and fame
(He says) while the years roll on ;
But Billy is makin' the money,
An' Billy's supporting John !
Can the name of the author be given ? Are the
above lines the whole, or a portion only ?
W. B. H.
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71
JUplfca.
FOUNDLING ENTRIES IN PARISH
REGISTERS.
(12 S. v. 40.)
SUCH entries as MB. SPARKE inquires about
abound. I give below some specimens
from the registers of a few London parishes,
where the surname given to the unfortunate
abandoned children was generally the name
of the parish in which they were found, and
the Christian name from some circumstance
of the discovery, such as the situation or
the day of the finding. This is illustrated
and exemplified by the following : —
St. Dionis Backchurch. 1667, Dec. 14. — " A
chylde that was fownd at the strangers dore in
lymstrete whych chylde was fownde on Saynt
petters day in An0, d'ni 1567 And fonde of the
p'ishe coste, Wherefore they named the chylde
by the day that he was fownd & syrname by
the p'ishe, so the chyldes name ys Fetter
Dennis."
St. Antholin, Budge Bow. 1588, Feb. 2. —
" Vincent Antholins so named because he was
fond in the church porch upon St. Vincents
Day."
1671, Dec. 17. — " Antholing Stone a found-
ling bapt."
1672, July 27. — " Sary Antholing a foundling
buried."
Many similar.
St. Mary Woolnoth. 1597, Nov. 2. — " Gyles
Woolnoth a man child, found layde at the gate
of the Lady Bamsay."
Many others named Woolnoth.
1620/1, Feb. 14. — " John Sherborne a
foundling being found in Sherborne Lane."
1677, June 18. — " Thomas Davis was taken
up in Lombard Streete in my Lord Mayor's
entry & baptized Thomas Davis my Lord
Mayor's name."
St. Mary Woolchurch Haw. 1616, Sept. 4.—
" Sara Woolchurch a childe left in our parish,
not borne here."
1689, Nov. 15. — " William Haw a foundling."
Others baptized either Woolchurch or Haw.
1637, Feb. 28. — " Jefrey Underbench, a child
that was left at Mr. Hovels dore in our parish."
1642, Sept. 8. — " James Monday a child
found one Monday night 5th of Sep. one Mr.
Thompsons stall."
1646, April 23. — " A child found at Mr.
Sawyers in the street one a place to whet knives
and was named Edward Sharp."
1649, April 14. — " John Wallstone a male
child found in the ally by the church door laid
on a stone in the wall."
1649, Aug. 28. — ." Henry Penny, a male
child about the age of 3 years, was found in our
parish with a penny in his hand."
1649, Dec. 27. — " There was a male child
found att Mr. Paschalls stall before day and
was named John Beforeday being St. Johns
day."
1650, April 7. — " John Bynight, a male
child left in our Parish att Mr. Garretts doore."
1650, Nov. 9. — " Mary Evening a female
child found att Mr. Morris doore in
Cornhill."
St. Helen's, Bishopsgate. 1612, Sept. 1. — " Job
rakt out of the Asshes, being borne the last of
August in the lane going to Sr John Spencers
back gate and there laide in a heape of Seacole
Asshes was baptised the First daye of September
following and dyed the next day after." The
burial entry runs : Sept. 2, " Job Bakt-out-of-
the-Ashes, as is mentioned in the Begister of
Christenings, Crisome."
St. John Baptist on Wallbrook. 1688, Mar. 22. —
" John Cloakelane a foundling."
1689 /90, Feb. 20. — " Jone Dowgate, a
foundling."
Christ Church, Newgate. 1669, Oct. 18. — " Jane
Bents found in the New Bents in the Shambles
the 14th day."
1671, June 4.—" Mary Warwick found in
Warwick Lane at 11 o'clock at night."
1671, July 23. — " Susannah Charity found in
Panyer Alley at 11 o'clock at night."
1699, Oct. 6.—" Elizabeth Christchurch, a
foundling."
1702 /3, Jan. 4. — " Amen Corner a foundling."
1705/6, Mar. 22. — "Christian Passage a
foundling."
1706, May 16. — " George Amen Corner a
foundling."
1740/1, Mar. 16.—" Giles Blewcoat a found-
ling."
Many others named either Church or Fryer.
St. Mildred, Bread Street. 1684, April 3. —
" Mary Mildred a foundling bapt."
Many others.
St. Margaret Moses, Friday Street. 1657, Nor. 10.
— " Jeames Moses a fondlinge."
1678, Sept. 10.—" Margaret Moses a found-
ling."
St. Mary Aldermary. 1598/9, Mar. 21. — "A
childe founde in the p'ishe named Abda
Aldermary e."
1600, April 16. — " A child found on Mr.
Colmer's staule named Mary Aldrmary."
St. Michael le Querne. 1669, Aug. 25.—" Sarah
Querne."
St. Vedast, Foster Lane. 1673, Dec. 16. —
" Christiane Vedast left in the Nags head entry
Dec. 10th."
St. Martin Outwich. 1699/1700, Jan. 1. —
" Bichard Martin Outwich a child found in the
parish."
Dozens of others might be quoted, and
I should think that a register of any size
without some such entry is a rarity.
STEP BEN J. BARNS.
Entries relating to foundlings are of
frequent occurrence in parish registers.
In the registers of St. Dunstan West,
Fleet Street, are to be found : —
1618. Mary Porch, a foundling, bapt. Jan. 18.
1629. Subpoena, a child found, bur. Jan. 16.
1631. Eliz. Middlesex, found in Chancery Lane.
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A memorandum in the Kensington register
records how
" a woman child of the age of one year and
a half or thereabouts, being found in her
swadlinge clothes, layed at the Ladye Cooper's
gate, baptized by the name of Mary Troovie
10th October."
In the register of Perm, Staffordshire,
there is the following entry : —
" 1750, March 25. Mary Penn, foundling, bapt.
This child was found tied up in a cloth, and hung
to the ring upon the south door of Penn Church,
about 8 o'clock P.M., by William Baker, as he was
coming out of the church after the ringing of the
curfew bell."
Foundlings left in the parish of St.
Lawrence, Old Jewry, invariably had the
surname of Lawrence given to them ; in the
parish of St. Clement Danes they were all
named Clement ; and it appears from the
Temple register that between 1728 and
1755 no fewer than 104 foundlings were
baptized there, all of whom were surnamed
Temple or Templar.
Foundlings were often named at the
caprice of the Vestry, and it is hardly
necessary to call attention to the amusing
account in Crabbe's * The Parish Register '
of the naming by the Vestry of the infant
found in their parish. After anxious debate
Richard was fixed on as a Christian name,
because no one present at the meeting bore
that name, and the child was surnamed
Monday from the day on which he was
found.
MB. SPABKE is referred to ' Parish
Registers in England,' by R. E. Chester
Waters, Burn's ' History of Parish Registers,'
and T. F. Thiselton Dyer's ' Old English
Social Life, as told by the Parish Register.'
WM. SELF WEEKS.
Westwood, Clitheroe.
In the parish register of St. Mary's
Shrewsbury, is the following : —
1801. " Francis St. Mary's, 4 ms. h. of ind.*
This child was left at the infirmary steps aboul
10 o'clock at night, and was found there by Mr
liowlands. It was taken to the h. of ind.* anc
there died."
From the parish registers of St. Chad's
Shrewsbury : —
1705, Dec. 12. " Hanna, an exposed child, lefi
upon the fish board, bap."
There are about a dozen entries of an
ordinary type. If your corresponden
wishes these, I shall be pleased to send them
direct. H. T. BEDDOWS.
Public Library, Shrewsbury.
Here is one out of many similar which
have come across, as pathetic in its sup-
>ressions as that quoted by MB. SPABKE in
ts realistic Latinisms. It occurs in the
parish register of Inkborrow, Wore., under
date July 4, 1665 : —
" Henry filius populi buried."
Here are three others from St. Mary
Magdalen, Bermondsey : —
1584, April 5. — " ffryswed a ffondlin," bap.
1605, Mar. 7. — " A child ftound in the highway
the Grange," bur.
1607, May 21. — " A pore child ffound at MIV
Liedams gate," bur.
JOHN W. BROWN.
From the Hartland parish register, 1566 : —
"Petrus cuius filius est, nemo scit, bap. est
23 die Nov."
R. PEABSE CHOPE.
In the register of St. Mary' s-on- the -Hill ,.
Chester, is the following entry : —
1630. " Elizabeth Godsendus buried 23th day
of December " ;
and in the churchwardens' accounts the
entry is " a stranger's child."
GEO. W. HASWELL.
* House of Industry.
HENRY I. : A GLOUCESTER CHARTER.
(12 S. iv. 149, 223, 279; v. 16.)
MB. ST. CLAIB BADDELEY laments that
" for a considerable period " (" three years,"
as he informs me) he has been shut out
from the delights of ' N. & Q.' His regret
should be tempered by the reflection that
he had made the long-published " Gloucester
charter " his own " two or three years
back," which, I may mention in justice to
myself, roughly corresponds with the time
at which the late Mr. Arthur Madan, brother
of the well-known Bodleian Librarian, in-
troduced that document to me as the
oldest original charter in the possession of
the Dean and Chapter of Gloucester.
We are faced at present by two diffi-
culties : the true date of the Gloucester
charter, and the true date of the notification
of confirmation. In this reply I will deal
only with the former, reserving the latter,
with the Editor's leave, to another occasion.
MB. BADDELEY thinks that the charter
"certainly belongs" to 1127. I do not
understand his assertion of the existence
of " a more perfect duplicate " in Stubbs's
edition of William of Malmesbury's ' Gesta.'
The Gloucester charter is the original
12 8. V. MARCH, 1919.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
73
document. A " duplicate," if a duplicate
existed, would indeed have equal validity
with the original, or rather would be an
original itself, as, for example, in the case
of a chirograph — of a convention or a
indenture. What MB. BADDELEY quotes i
only a piinted copy of a manuscript copy
but how can a mere copy, or the print of a
copy, be " more perfect " than the origina1
charter ? This " more perfect duplicate '
turns out to be part of a monkish interpola
tion in a MS. copy of the ' Gesta ' made
probably late in the twelfth century at
Gloucester by a Gloucester scribe, for the use
of the Gloucester abbey of St. Peter. More
hereafter. En attendant I may remark that
Dr. Stubbs will have none of it as part oi
the genuine text, consigning it to an igno-
minious place in minute type at the very
•end of Liber V. Thus the evidence is not
so irrefragable as MB. BADDELEY thinks.
It is not finally conclusive for these four
reasons : —
1. It is found only in a copy.
2. The only original and genuine docu-
ment knows nothing about it.
3. There is a suspicious resemblance
between the two contending dates — the
quoted one, MCXXVIL, and the apparently
obvious one, MCXXIII. — suggesting a pos-
sible blunder on the part of a copyist .
4. History seems to agree. I have proved
that the charter passed in one of two short
intervals — February to June, 1123, or Sep-
tember, 1126, to August, 1127— and that
internal evidence points to a date when the
King held a great council of prelates and
barons at Winchester. In each of those
two brief intervals the King did hold such
a council — the one at Winchester at Easter,
1123 ; the other, not at Winchester, but at
Westminster, Christmas, 1126 ('D.N.B.').
The great ecclesiastical Council of West-
minster in May, 1127, is ruled out.
1 MS. By a pardonable lapse of
MB. BADDELEY surely had for-
but affuerunt, not^iffluerunt, is the word in
the original MS.
memory
gotten that he must have written affuerunt
(were present) in the copy from the Glouces-
ter original which, as he tells us, he made
" two or three years back."
MB. G. H. WHITE'S convincing reasoning
I hope, with the Editor's kind permission,
to refer to in my next.
CHABLES SWYNNEBTON.
Stanley St. Leonards Vicarage, Glos.
MB. ST. CLAIB BADDELEY refers to a
" variety " of Henry I.'s charter in the
' Gloucester Cartulary,' i. 235 (i.e., no. cxlii.),
attested by Roger de Gloucester himself ;
but this is evidently an earlier charter
granted by the King at Falaise before Roger
died of his wound. It is the " Confirmatio "
printed by MB. BADDELEY which is a dupli-
cate of no. cxlii., with the addition of the
missing list of witnesses — the only variants
(apart from the spelling of proper names)
being
horto.
dux " for rex, and " orti " for de
(No doubt the same careless scribe
who changed the king into a duke has dis
arranged the list of witnesses ; for the
bishops should precede the Chancellor, and
the Count of Meulan should precede Richard
de Reviers.) As Waldric the Chancellor
became Bishop of Laon in November, 1106,
we can at last fix the date of this charter,
within the limits circa July, 1105— November,
1106.
For although MB. BADDELEY assigns the
death of Roger to 1106, I think that the
"loucester monks (i. 69) and MB. SWYN-
NEBTON are rig;ht in giving the date as 1105.
doubt William of Malmesbury speaks of
ihe event as if it occurred not long before
;he battle of Tinchebrai (Sept. 28, 1106),
ut he summarizes occurrences in Normandy
ery briefly here (ed. Stubbs, pp. 474-5).
For these reasons, notwithstanding the Again, Orderic appears to record the cam-
rsion of the original which occurs in naicm. whirvh ^^r\ with the abortive
version
the corrupt insertion in William of Malmes-
bury, I still am strongly of opinion that
the Gloucester charter passed at Easter, 1123
— of course aptjd Wintoniam. (See also my
argument at 12 S. iv. 149.) On the other
hand, the date may be 1127.
MB. BADDELEY chides Mr. W. H. Hart,
the editor of the ' Gloucester Cartulary '
"(Rolls Series), for having, as he supposes,
misprinted affuerunt in his rendering of the
paign, which ended with the abortive
attempt on Falaise, under 1106 ; but I think
that M. Le Prevost shows clearly that the
year should be 1105 (Ordericus Vitalis, ed.
Soc. de 1'Histoire de France, iv. 218-20).
Cp. Ramsay, ' Foundations of England,'
ii. 252-3.
As this charter (cxlii.) also confirms the
grant of land through Walter de Gloucester
in exchange for the monks' garden, t is
evident that their historian is wrong in
Gloucester charter, instead of affluerunt, assigning this exchange to 1109 (i. 59)
;and he calls it " a ruinous change." There in the passage which I quoted ante, p. 18.
is, indeed, a poetical flavour about affluerunt,
the word in the "more perfect duplicate,"
The true date cannot be later than Novem
ber, 1106; but, as the charter mentions it
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after Roger's gift, it was probably not earlier
than July, 1105.
It should now be possible to show the
sequence of gifts and charters : —
1. c. July, 1105. Roger de Gloucester,
mortally wounded at Falaise, gives Coin to
St. Peter's of Gloucester. Before he dies,
2. c. July, 1105, the King confirms his
gift, Roger attesting the charter (ante, p. 17 ;
Will. Malmesbury, p. 521).
3. ?c. July, 1105— Nov., 1106. The
King grants Ablode and Pay grove Wood to
St. Peter's in exchange for the monks'
garden (i. 59), and issues writ no. ccxci. to
Walter de Gloucester and others (ante,
p. 18),
4. c. July, 1105— Nov., 1106. The King
confirms (a) Roger's gift of Coin, and (b) the
exchange for the garden (no. cxlii. ; also
ante, iv. 280 ; text from Cambridge MS.,
with witnesses, ante, p. 17).
5. 1127 (if the dating clause added in the
Cambridge MS. be correct), or 1123 (cp. ante,
iv. 149). Gilbert de Miners claims Coin ;
but the King confirms it to St. Peter's
(no. cxliii. ; also Will. Malmesbury, pp. 52 1-2;
original text ante, iv. 149).
I regret that at iv. 223 I implied that
Walter de Gloucester did not become
Sheriff and Constable of Gloucester until
the death of his cousin Roger. My belief
that Roger held these offices was founded
on the passage in ' Feudal England ' (p. 313),
where Dr. Round wrote that Mr. A. S. Ellis
" was of opinion that Walter de Gloucester was
the immediate successor in the shrievalty of his
uncle Durand, who died without issue. This list,
on the contrary, suggests that the immediate
successor of Durand was his son Roger, and that
if, like his father, he held the shrievalty, this
might account for the interlineation remitting, in
his case, the sum due " [for the Worcester Belief,
1095].
But Dr. Round has since stated in two
passages in the Victoria County History
that Durand was succeeded as Sheriff by
his nephew Walter ( ' Hants,' i. 425 ; ' Here-
ford,' i. 279). The letter from Gilbert
Foliot, Bishop of London (previously Abbot
of St. Peter's), printed in the ' Glouo. Cart.'
(i. Ixxvi.) clearly implies that Walter was
the immediate successor of Durand as
Constable of Gloucester Castle. And the
charter evidence seems conclusive. For
Walter is styled Sheriff in a document of
1097 (Davis, ' Regesta Regum Anglo-Nor-
mannorum,' no. 389), in another of 1093-7
(ibid., no. 400), and another of 1094-8
(ibid., no. 411 ; Round, ' Cal. Doets. France,'
no.^468). As Walter was of age before the
decease of Durand, there is no apparent
reason why his father's offices should not
have reverted to him on his uncle's death.
G. H. WHITE.
23 Weighton Road, Anerley.
As I notice that on p. 17 (line 11 from
foot of col. 1) I have written " Gloucester "
when I intended Lisieux, may I add more
precisely the approximate date of the
" Confirmatio " charter as Oct. 15, 1106?
The signature of David perhaps belongs to-
the Queen's brother.
ST. CLAIB BADDELEY.
WILLIAM FLEETE OF SELWOBTHY (12 S.
iv. 324). — As this Wykehamist, whose epi-
taph has been transcribed for us by MB.
DODGSON, is not to be found readily in
Kirby's * Winchester Scholars,' it may be
convenient if I mention that he occurs there
at p. 133, under the year 1555, but with his
surname misprinted " Hett." The entry
in the original Register runs : —
" Willelmus Flett de London., xii annorum
primo die Aprilis preterite, dioc. London.
[Marginal note :] recessit Oxon."
As William Fleet (Flete or Fleat) he is
mentioned in Foster's ' Alumni Oxonienses.*
He was Rector of Birchanger, Essex,
1569-74, and became Rector of Selworthy,
Somerset, in 1570, and also of Hawkridge
in the same county in 1574. H. C.
Winchester College.
PBE-RAPHAELITE STAINED GLASS (12 S.
iv. 217, 337).— To the list published at the
latter reference might be added the window
in Birchington Church, placed there by his
mother in memory of D. G. Rossetti. It
consists of two panels: (1) The Passover,
from Rossetti' s picture ; (2) Christ giving
sight to the blind, by F. J. Shields. The
memorial cross over Rossetti' s grave, de-
signed by Ford Madox Brown, stands a few
paces from the window, in the churchyard.
JOHN T. PAGE.
To the list on iv. 337 add St. Mary the
Virgin, Speldhurst, Kent, three windows by
Burne- Jones ; and All Saints', Birchington-
on-Sea, memorial window to D. G. Rossetti
by O. Madox Brown. H. K. ST. J. S.
There is a stained-glass window designed
by Burne- Jones in Christ Church, Woburn
Square. J. R. H.
To the list may be added the church at
Selsley, near Stroud, co. Glos. (Morris).
BC.
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75
' GREEK ANTHOLOGY ' : WESTMINSTER
AND ETON (12 S. iv. 130). — I have only just
seen H. K. ST. J. S.'s query at the above
reference.
I have the following in my own collec-
tion : —
1. " Anthologia Deutera sive Poematum
Graecorum minorum Delectus in usum Scholse
Begiae Westmonasteriensis. Oxoniae e typo-
grapheo Clarendoniano Sumptibus B. Barker.
MDCCXXV."
2. " Anthologia sive Epigrammatum Grsecorum
ex Anthologia Edita MS. Bodleiana aliisque
autoribus Delectus in usum Scholae Westmonas-
teriensis. Londini Sumptibus W. et W. Ginger,
ad Insignia Collegii Westmonasteriensis juxta
Scholam Regiam. MDCCXC."
Possibly an inquiry addressed to the
Librarian of Westminster School might
reveal the existence of similar collections in
the School Library. J. B. W.
MAW FAMILY (12 S. v. 10). — There are
several representatives of the Epworth
Maw family still left in that town and
neighbourhood, some of whom might possibly
be able to give information on the subject.
The likeliest source known to me is Stone-
house's ' History of the Isle of Axholme,'
in which there is a brief notice of the family.
Unfortunately, the Epworth parish registers
were burnt in the rectory fire of 1709, so
that this source of information is not avail-
able beyond that date. There are, however,
several Maws mentioned in Dr. Messiter's
little book ' Notes on Epworth Parish Life in
the Eighteenth Century,' which is largely
founded on researches in the existing parish
registers. Among others, the following ex-
tracts from these registers are given : —
"1710. Mart. 8, (Baptisata) Susanna, filia
Johannis Maw junioris Generosi et Marise ejus
uxoris."
"1714. Jul. 25. (Sepultus) Johannes Maw, senr.,
Generosus."
There are other references to Maws of
about the same date. C. C. B.
PRUDENTIUS'S ' PSYCHOMACHIA ' (12 S.
v. 14).— The late Prof. J. E. B. Mayor in his
1 Bibliographical Clue to Latin Literature,'
1875, after mentioning Matthew Prior's
verses " to the Rev. Dr. F. Turner, bishop of
Ely, who had advised a translation of
Prudentius," adds that Turner himself
translated the whole, and gives a reference to
The Christian's Magazine, 1761, 230. Whether
the MS. is in existence and can be traced I
do not know.
In the Baker-Mayor ' History of St. John's
College,' p. 988, is a memorandum *of Cole
the antiquary in which he quotes a letter of
Baker, who tells Hearne that Bishop Turner
had a design to write Nicholas Ferrar's life,
" but what collections he had made, or
where lodged, I do not know. His library
was sold." Mayor notes, op. tit., p. £89,,
that " Dr. Rawlinson arranged his papers
(Nichols, 'Lit. Anecd.,' v. 495)." In the-
postscript of a letter from Baker to Hearne-
(Rawl. 22, 9) of c. Sept. 14, 1724, we read :
" I am told by a Learned Lady (Mrs. Grigg^
that Bp. Turner's Papers were in Mr~
Chiswell's [Chishull's] hands."
The life of Francis Turner in the ' D.N.B.'
does not mention a translation of Prudentius.
I am not able at present to consult
c Athense Oxonienses ' (Turner was a Fellow
of New College before he removed to-
St. John's, Cambridge).
EDWARD BENSLY.
" MANTLE -MAKER'S TWIST " (12 S. iv. 272,,
334). — I have always known this as " dress-
maker's twist," which is, however, only a~
variant.
As regards squeezing the teapot, this was
humorously done to extract a few more-
drains. It was certainly the custom to
make a second brew of the leaves by stewing
on the hob by the fire. The second brew
was known as " husband tea " and " come
love," and the liquor thus served out was
the husband's drink when he came in from
work, the " come love " being a comforting
yet derisive expression which meant much
or little as the husband might take it.
THOS. RATCLIFFE.
Southfield, Worksop.
HON. LIEUT. GEORGE STEWART (12 S.
v. 12). — The inscription on the gravestone-
is evidently incorrect in many things.
The 8th Earl of Moray was named James,
and he died in 1767 (see obituary notices
in ' The Annual Register ' and Gentleman's
Magazine for 1767). The Hon. Lieut.
George Stewart could not therefore be a
son of the 8th Earl, as he was not born till
1771. The 9th Earl was named Francis,
and he had twin sons born on Feb. 2, 1771,
viz., Francis, 10th Earl of Moray, and
Archibald, who died Oct. 30, 1832 (see
obituary notice in Gentleman's Magazine).
No trace of the birth or death of the " Hon.
Lieut. George Stewart " can be found iu
'The Annual Register' or The Gentleman's
Magazine. The inscription is also worded
rather peculiarly. If Lieut. George Stewart
was the son of an earl, should not his name-
have read "Lieut, the Hon. George
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; Stewart " ? Also was not the 88th Regt.
usually known as the 88th Foot ? Another
point in the inscription is the spelling of
the name " Stewart " ; the family name
of the Earls of Moray was written
*' Stuart " at that period.
ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
Bolton.
MARY WATERS, LADY TYNTE (12 S.
iv. 178, 205, 313). — It would appear pro-
bable that Mary Waters on her marriage
with Sir Halswell Tynte settled her posses-
sions on her husband and his heirs in
exchange for a pecuniary settlement on
herself ; for we find the following entry
under ' Deaths ' in vol. xxviii. of The
Gentleman's Magazine : —
" 1758, Dec. 17. — Hon. Lady Tynte, at Farley,
near Winton ; her jointure of 2,OOOZ. per Ann.
comes to Sir Charles Kemeys Tynte, Bart."
As this lady survived Sir Halswell Tynte
for twenty-eight years, it may be estimated
that her possessions (principally land in
Brecknockshire) cost the Tynte family the
goodly sum of 56,OOOZ. or more.
CROSS-CROSSLET.
COL. A. R. MACDONELL'S DUEL WITH
NORMAN MACLEOD (12 S. v. 9, 43). — May I
be allowed to correct a slight inaccuracy in
my reply at the latter reference ? I stated
'that Sabine's ' Notes on Duels and Duelling '
was not in the British Museum Library, but
I now find that it is. I looked for it in the
Subject Index under the head of ' Duelling,'
but, unlike several other works on that
topic, it was not entered. I naturally,
therefore, concluded it was not in the
Library, but I now find that it is, but only
indexed under the author's name. The
intricacies of these indices, admirable though
they are, are not mastered in a day.
WlLLOUGHBY MAYCOCK.
HENGLER FAMILY (12 S. iv. 242, 314).—
I am greatly obliged to the writers at the
second reference, and to Mr. A. W. Samuel,
for information. B case's ' Modern Bio-
graphy,' vol. i., mentions Edward Henry,
son of Henry (1819-65) ; Frederick Charles,
brother of Edward Henry (1820-87) ; and
the latter 's eldest son Frederick Charles
'(1855-89). The maiden name of the mother
of the elder Frederick Charles is said to have
been Kelly. Frederick Charles sen. had
also a son John, who lives at Hoylake, and
his sister-in-law Mrs. Hird (nee Sprake) is
still alive.
In Dublin Hengler's had a building on the
site of the Rotunda Rink (now used by the
postal authorities). I have vivid memories
of the spectacular pieces there — ' Zulu War '
(Dublin Evening Telegraph, Christmas, 1914),
'Water Novelty/ 'Cinderella,' and
' Siberia.' Blondin appeared here, Whim-
sical Walker, Yorick the Fool, Willio
Templeton (the "singing clown"), and the
inimitable Frank Anderson as Handy Andy
(suggested by Lover's hero). Perhaps some
day the full history of these old friends will
be written. J. ARDAGH.
35 Church Avenue, Drumcondra, Dublin.
ST. CUTHMAN (12 S. iv. 329). — In a paper
read by the Rev. Thomas Medland (Vicar of
Steyning, 1840-82) in August, 1851, on the
early history of Steyning and its church,
published in Sussex Archaeological Collec-
tions,v. 111-26, he gives a quotation from
an ancient life of St. Cuthmann in the
' Acta Sanctorum Bollandi,' Antwerp, 1658,
vol. ii. p. 197, Feb. 8, which was kept as his
anniversary.
The account of the saint quoted by MR.
WAINEWRIGHT from Hare is evidently a
condensed form of the passage translated by
Medland ; but, as the latter makes no men-
tion of the gloves worn by the saint when
engaged on building his church, it seems
to be an independent version. Medland
says : —
"In this dilemma he framed a kind of movable
couch, which from the description given of it must
have been very like a large wheelbarrow, and with
its assistance he was enabled to take with him his
mother as the companion of his wanderings."
After relating how the " barrow " fell to
the ground for the second time, Medland
continues : —
" This was at Steyning, and the accuracy with
which the locality is described inspires a belief in
the truthfulness of this part of the narrative, which
we should not perhaps so readily accord to some
other parts."
He proceeds to give the description, and
adds in a note the Latin which he is trans-
lating.
St. Cuthmann, Medland tells us, was
buried in the church which he built, and
quotes as authorities for the statement
G. Hickes, ' Thesaurus,' vol. iii. p. 120, and
Leland's ' Collect.,' i. p. 96, quoted by
Cartwright, p. 169. He states too, on the
authority of Asser, that the father of Alfred
the Great was buried there, and thinks that
the body was afterwards removed to
Winchester.
He gives no indication as to the date of
the demolition of the priory buildings, but
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
77
states that the priory was founded on the
site afterwards occupied by the parsonage
house.
"Among the Burrell MRS.," says Medland,"is
an extract of a letter of Mr. Hoper, the vicar, to
Mr. Burrell, dated April 19, 1777, in which he says :
* The parsonage house was formerly the residence
of six Carthiisian monks, subject to a superior
religious house at Caen in Normandy.' There are
here two mistakes but Mr. Upper gives doubt-
less the current tradition concerning the site of the
priory ; and the tradition was confirmed, A.D. 1848,
by the discovery of the fishponds belonging to the
establishment, when the foundations were dug out
for the wall of the vicarage garden."
Steyning was evidently a place of con-
siderable importance in Saxon times, for
it had a royal mint. Specimens of coins
minted there have been found at Chancton
in the neighbourhood. O. KING SMITH.
For a life of this saint see the Bollandist
Fathers' ' Acta Sanctorum ' under the date
given (Feb. 8). The title is : ' De S. Cuth-
mano Confess ore Stenningse in Normannia '
(about 2| pp.). L. L. K.
'THE NEWCOMES ' (12 S. v. 14). — It is
not very probable that a " key " to chap. viii.
exists ; and, if it did, it would perhaps be
like many similar "keys" — bright and
ingenious, but unlocking nothing. Thackeray
is as difficult in such matters as Dickens is
easy. We have his own statement that
Col. Newcome himself was in life no one in
particular, and little more can be said.
Lady Ritchie writes all that is necessary
(Introduction to 'The Newcomes ') : " We
called her Aunt Becher, but her other name
I do believe was Miss Martha Honeyman."
"Pidge of Brazenose " is hinted at; and,
most curiously, Thackeray himself as " J. J.,"
in almost his own words of that artist
(drawing " not so much the things he saw,
as the things he thought about," at a very
juvenile age) : as distinguished from Clive,
who did the other thing. Mrs. Hobson is,
of course, a supreme creation of her genre.
There is nothing quite like her in our litera-
ture, though plenty in her very image in our
lives. She is rife at present. " Social
conditions " is her shibboleth, and her own
social condition her end — ehe wishes to
become Lady Ann Newcome still. It should
be remembered that Mrs. Hobson's guests
were notorieties rather than notabilities.
The powerful chapter in ' Pendennis '
describing the literary dinner at the incep-
tion of The Pall Mall Gazette has been fitted
with a " key." But very little is revealed,
and it may be doubted if Shandon was wholly
Maginn; Wenham and Wagg, Croker and:
Hook ; Warrington, Venables, &c. If the
sensible, lovable Foker was really the cad
Archdeckne, Thackeray is to be thanked
for a noble action. Bulwer was the head
and front of his early offending in this
matter, and he made full amends. Things
like Mrs. Nickleby and Micawber (Dickens's
mother and father), Harold Skimpole, &c.r
were not at all to Thackeray's taste.
But if any "key" existed to 'The
Newcomes ' chapter, it would surely not
reveal Charlotte Bronte in " Mies Pinnifer."
Thackeray's opinions on ' Jane Eyre ' and
its author are given somewhat over-fully
in his introductory note to ' Emma,' a
fragment by Charlotte Bronte (Cornhill
Magazine, 1860). They could have led
to no such caricature. It is strange how
his ideas on ' Jane Eyre ' developed.
Writing to Brookfield in October, 1848, he
professes almost to believe, on the authority
of "old Dilke of The Athenceum," that
" Procter and his wife " wrote the book.
Later he owns, more seriously, that he left
his own urgent work undone that he might
finish the volumes. Probably he tasted
the flattery of some of the imitation — the
theatricals, for instance, natural enough in
' Vanity Fair,' but fairly dragged into
' Jane Eyre.'
Thackeray, who wished no ' Life ' to be •
written of him, carried the keys of his
characters (if there were such) with him.
His only real biographers — Lady Ritchie
and Leslie Stephen — tell uts little or nothing.
It is very well so. There was no tale to-
tell. GEORGE MARSHALL.
21 Parkfield Road, Liverpool.
RICHARD I. IN CAPTIVITY (12 S. iv. 303 ;
v< 21). — In the 1876 edition of 'Flaherty'
(edited by the late Prof. Stubbs) the last
entry under 1192 reads, not "in a castle
in the Tyrol," but (p. 132) " at Diirrenstem.
on the Danube." This castle is near
Krems, and on the north bank of the Danube,
a little west of Vienna. For further details
as to the spot of Richard's captivity see
R. Pauli, ' Geschichte von England,' iii.
(1853), p. 250, and Alfons Huber, 'Ge-
schichte von Oesterreich,' i. (1885), p. 278.
Both quote various English annalists (Ralph
de Diceto and Ralph of Coggediall). See
also Th. Toeche, ' Kaiser Heinrich VI.'
(1867, ' Jahrbiicher der Deutschen Ge-
schichte '), pp. 261-2. Note that " Leopold,
Duke of Austria," was of the house of
Babenberg, which held the duchy of Austria
from 976 to 1246, the Habsburgers only
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NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. v. MARCH, 1919.
-getting it in 1282 (see my * Alps in Nature
and History,' 1908, pp. 128-30). Doubtless
Stubbs's ' Itinerarium ' of Richard I. (Rolls
Series, 1864) would help, but I cannot
consult it out here.
An extremely full bibliography of all the
-original sources for Richard's captivity is
given on p. 325, note 1 (15 lines of small
print), of G. Juritsch's ' Geschichte der
Babenberger und ihrer Lander, 976-1246 '
(Innsbruck, Wagner, 1894).
W. A. B. C.
Grindelwald.
MARKSHALL AND THE HONYWOOD FAMILY
(12 S. iv. 234, 263). — Thomas Fuller's anec-
•dofce concerning the agony of Mrs. Mary
Honywood's soul, quoted by F. H. S. at the
former reference, supplies the material for
a curious piece of literary induction. The
tale is first found in the sermons of Dr. John
"Stoughton of Emmanuel, published sub-
sequent to his death, which occurred in
1639. Neither the name of Mrs. Hony-
wood nor the locality is mentioned by
Stoughton.
A Thomas Stoughton was Rector of
Coggeshall, near which Markshall lies. He
was deprived for Puritanism in 1607. An
inference suggests that John Stoughton
had heard the anecdote locally, and that he
navy have been the son of Thomas Stoughton.
'This inference is strengthened by finding the
record of the baptism of a John Stoughton,
son of Thomas and Kathe^ine, under date
Jan. 23, 1592/3, at Naughton, Suffolk.
The date accords well with John Stoughton' s
-entry at Emmanuel in 1607.
The last stage of the induction is supplied
by a statement made by the Rev. Thomas
'Stoughton, in a preface to his works, that
lie had come from Suffolk.
MARGARET WHITEBROOK.
MARKSHALL AND THE FULLER FAMILY
<(12 S. v. 8). — It would be very kind if MR.
J. F. FULLER would tell me how Robert
Vesoy of Wix Abbey, Essex, came to be
buried at Markshall on March 8, 1575.
"Was he in any way akin to Thos. Fuller,
lord of Markshall in 1561 ? Robert Vesey
died vita patris as husband of Joan, daughter
of Win. Cardinall of Bromley (Essex), and
son of William Vesey of Wix Abbey and
fiintlesham, Suffolk. The latter had two
wives — the first nameless, the second Joan,
•daughter of Robert Cutler of Ipswich, who
made her will as Joan Vesey of Hintlesham
•widow, on Oct. 5, 1586.
OLD EAST ANGLIAN.
ANDREW B. WRIGHT, LOCAL HISTORIAN
AND ACTOR (12 S. v. 14). — That Andrew B.
Vright, author of ' An Essay towards the
listory of Hexham,' was an actor may be
accepted by MR. HODGSON as something
more than a tradition. William Robb, a
lexham man, on p. 16 of his ' Hexham
Fifty Years Ago ' (published 1882), is clear
on the point. He says : —
1 There is still another amusement of our
iredecessors to Which I have barely alluded in
>assing. Hexham had in those early days a
-heatre in which every winter the drama was
more or less successfully performed. The family
of the manager were the principal actors, and,
rom the regularity of their visits for years to the
*>wn, they had become well known and highly
respected by many of the townspeople. One of
>hem, Mr. Andrew Wright, wrote a History of
Rexham, which as a record of facts has not even
yet been superseded."
Confirmation of Mr. Robb's boyhood
recollections will be found in The Newcastle
Magazine for March, 1824, in which a review
appears of Mr. Wright's then recently pub-
ished work. Dating his criticism from
Hexham, and exhibiting in his remarks an
intimate knowledge of local conditions, the
critic, in a foot-note to a statement of Mr.
Wright's concerning the recreations of the
nhabitants of Hexham, says : —
" The author is a player ; and, We can con-
fidently add, an honour to his profession."
These two extracts are conclusive as far
as they go. They show that Mr. Wright
was an actor and the son of an actor-
manager, and that he enjoyed the esteem
of the Hexham people. And though they
do little to elucidate MR. HODGSON'S chief
inquiry, regarding the parentage, career,
and death of Mr. A. B. Wright, they may,
in the absence of anything more com-
prehensive, be of use to those interested in
the subject. JOHN OXBERRY.
Gateshead.
"^BADULLA, CEYLON : TOMBSTONE IN-
SCRIPTION (12 S. v. 37). — For particulars of
Sylvester Douglas Wilson and his wife see
11 S. xii. 120. The correct inscription is : —
" Sacred to the memory of Sophia Wilson, only
daughter of the late Edmund Battersbee, Esq. of
Stratford upon Avon, Warwickshire, wife of
Sylvester Douglas Wilson, Esq., Assistant Resi-
dent and Agent of the British Government in
the Province of Ouwa. She departed this life at
Badulla after a few days' illness on the morning ol
the 24th May, 1817, aged 24 years."
It is given in my ' List of Inscriptions on
Tombstones and Monuments in Ceylon,' a
review of which appeared at 11 S. x. 259-60.
A monument of rough masonry, with a
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79
marble tablet inserted in it, has within the
last five years been erected by the Govern-
ment to the memory of S. D. Wilson, near
the spot where he was killed while on duty.
PENBY LEWIS.
WAR SLANG (12 S. iv. 271, 306, 333;
v. 18). — MB. SPABKE'S list is good, but
there are two words at least from which
he has not extracted the full service meaning.
The first is " rumble," to discover, to find
out or to detect in any trickery. Thus a
malingerer is " rumbled " by the medical
officer.
The second is " sweating," which MB.
SPABKE associates with the game of hide-
and-seek. It is, however, more frequently
used in the favourite game " house," where
each player buys a card on which are
printed three rows of figures. Counters
bearing other figures are extracted from a
bag, and the players cover up the numbers
that appear on their respective cards as the
numbers are called out. When any player
has completed any horizontal line in this
way, he calls " House," and takes the pool
(the money paid for the cards). When he
needed one number only to complete a line,
he was " sweating on " that number. It is
easy to understand why the prospect of
winning a substantial sum causes him
literally to sweat.
Thus " sweating " has come to mean
"to be within an ace of securing " or "to
have a reasonable hope of attaining." A
corporal may be said to be " sweating on '
sergeant, that is, he has reasonable hope of
shortly becoming one.
In connexion with leave it is frequently
employed to indicate prospects. Thus
" Had your leave ? " " No, but I am
sweating," or " No, I am not even sweating.'
A. J. C. AITKEN.
My impression is that "fed up" was
brought home by the soldiers from th(
Boer war of 1899-1902 ; and to the best o:
my recollection they were said to have
acquired the expression from the Australian
troops.
I quote the following from some interesting
notes on war slang contributed by Mr. E. B
Osborn to The Illustrated London News o
Jan. 4 : —
" ' Snaffer,' which means please don't troubl
(almost the equivalent of the Russian Nitchevo]
is derived from the polite ' £a ne fait rien ' of th
farmer's wife when Mr. Atkins apologized fo
inflicting some trifling inconvenience. But napoo
of course, is the indispensable and ineyitabl
dissyllable ; it is to be heard a hundred times
ay, and always in a different sense. It i
hameleon of words, taking its colouring of
ignificance from varying circumstances. It is a*
orruption of a corrupt abbreviation — of JV'j/ en
p'ws, which means II n't/ en a plus (that's the-
ast of it)."
Tommy Atkins calls a route-march a.
rout-march." I have often heard officers
n the old army adopt the mispronunciation,,
quite as a matter of course. If it is general,
t would seem to be a case of evil com-
munications corrupting good manners.
J. R. H.
" Gypos " (12 S. iv. £07) is meant for
* Gyppies," the Army term for the-
Egyptian army. The R.A.M.C. used to fce-
jalled " poultice wallahs," not " twallowers "
ibid.). C. G.
Gambia.
"DINKUM" (12 S. v. 7).— The word was
used by my men in Palestine when they
referred to Australians. They would say,
' A company of Dinkums have pitched
eamp near here during the night," or, " The
Dinkums have struck camp and gone."
E. W. G., R.A.F.
"CAMOUFLAGE" (12 S. v. 42).— MB.
WAINEWBIGHT will find further interesting-
remarks anent the derivation of this much-
discussed anglicized word in The Globe of
Nov. 8, 1917, and The Daily Express of
Nov. 24 and 27 of the same year.
CECIL CLABKE.
Junior Athenaeum Club.
GOLDSWOBTHY AS A PLACE-NAME (12 S.
v. 39). — Goldsworthy (or Goldworthy) is a
small hamlet in the parish of Parkham,
near Bideford, North Devon. It was for-
merly the seat of the Gay family.
R. PEABSE CHOPE.
CLAY BALLS AS CHBISTMAS COLLECTING
BOXES (12 S. v. 39). — A Christmas box was
a box generally made of earthenware, with
a slit in it through which the money given
at Christmas was passed into the box.
It was carried about by apprentices and
others to receive gifts, which were hoarded
up, and could only be got out by breaking
the box. Allusions to these Christmas
boxes are to be found in seventeenth-
century writers. For example : —
" Like the Christmas earthen boxes of appren-
tices, apt to take in money, but he restores none
till hee be broken, like a potter's vessel, into many
shares." — H. Browne, ' Map of the Microcosme,'
1642, sig. c. 6 b.
Aubrey, in his ' Introduction to the
Survey and Natural History of the North
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X)ivision of the County of North Wiltshire,'
speaking of a pot in which some Roman
^denarii were found, says that " it resembles
in appearance an apprentice's earthen Christ-
mas Box" See, under title ' Christmas
Box,' Nares's ' Glossary,' edited by Halli-
well and Wright ; Brand's ' Popular An-
tiquities,' edited by Ellis, and the ' New
'English Dictionary.'
The "earthen halffe baked balles....
made For servauntts to gather Mony att
Christmas," referred to by SIB R. C.
TEMPLE, were evidently rudely made
varieties of the Christmas boxes before
.alluded to. WM. SELF WEEKS.
Sandys in 'Christinas Carols' (1833)
says : —
" Apprentices and journeymen, and servants,
used to carry about earthen boxes with a slit in
them to receive money fat Christmas time], and,
when the time for collecting was over, broke them
to obtain the contents."
Brand in ' Popular Antiquities ' gives refer-
ences so far back as 1621 and 1642. Neither
of these authors states whether the custom
is peculiar to any one district.
ARCHIBALD SPABKE.
" KIMONO" (12 S. iv. 271).— In the
' Diary of Richard Cocks ' (Hakluyt Society,
1883, vol. i.) we read thus : —
"November 6 [1615]. I received ... .other 2
[letters] from Mr. Eaton. . . . \vherin Capt. Copin-
dall adviseth me how well the Emperour did
receve the present he carid hym, and gave hym
an other of 5 kcrremons, 10 pike heades, 100 arrow
heades, and three waccadashes [wakizashis, or
swords] "—P. 81.
" Marche 15 [1616], There went divers, pil-
grims to Tenchadire with an ammambush [ Yama-
•bushi, mountaineering priest] for their gide, the
pilgrims haveing letters written on the backs of
their keremons (or coates)." — P. 121.
Doubtless both kerremon and keremon
of this diary are intended for kirimon, a
vulgar abbreviation of kirimono, which, in
its turn, is a corrupted titterance of kimono.
KUMAGTJSU MlNAKATA.
Tanabe, Kii, Japan.
BYRON IN FICTION (12 S. iv. 10, 60).— In
addition to the novels listed in my former
article and to Mrs. Ward's ' The Marriage
t)f William Ashe ' (supplied by M. H. DODDS
at the second reference, and by several
gentlemen who communicated with me by
post) the following novel, recently turned
up by me, may be recorded : —
Bailie Erminie Rives [Mrs. Post Wheeler]
The Castaway. Indianapolis, n.d. [1904]. — This
production follows the incidents of Byron's life
-quite closely, with just sufficient perversion oi
events, characters, and motives to make the
perusal of it irritating to any one acquainted with
the details of Byron's career. His character is
' whitewashed " and sentimentalized painfully.
Always he is depicted as more sinned against than
sinning. Lady Byron and Lady Caroline Lamb
are both blackened. Mary Chaworth does not
appear. La Guiccioli is the heroine. She and a
friar of the Armenian monastery near Venice are
with Byron when he dies. All the characters are
trom real life except a certain Trevanion, who is
bhe villain of the piece. The novel is illustrated
by Howard Chandler Christy.
SAMUEL C. CHEW.
Bryn Mawr College, U.S.A.
HERALDIC : SABLE, ON A CHEVRON ARGENT
(12 S. iv. 219, 334).— In The English Illus-
trated Magazine for April, 1901, appeared an
article on * Proclamations and Broadsides.'
It was illustrated by a number of photo-
graphic reproductions of these old docu-
ments. On p. 88 was reproduced a card
or " ticket " referring to the King family.
It was not directly mentioned in the text,
but I made a copy of it at the time. In the
centre of an oblong sheet is printed the
following : —
" A General Meeting of the Surname of KING
being appointed to be Held at Mr. John King's,
at the Rummer Tavern in White-Chappel,
London, on Saturday the 29th of this Instant
May, 1703, being the Anniversary in Memory of
the* happy Restoration of KING CHARLES the 2d
and the ROYAL Family. You are earnestly
desired to be there by Twelve of the Clock
precisely, by your most humble Servants
Robert King, Gent., "^
James King, Herald Painter, V Stewards.
John King, Vintner.
Pay for the Ticket 2,8. 6d., and bring it for your
Admittance."
The edges of the cards are ornamented
with seventeen coats of arms.
The only one of these which actually
corresponds to the charges in the arms
inquired about is given without tinctures,
and is accorded to King of Dorsetshire.
To the other variants I need not here
refer. JOHN T. PAGE.
Long Itchington, Warwickshire.
[We greatly regret to hear of the death of MR.
PAGE. Fuller reference will be made in our next
issue.]
THE AINSLIE BOND (12 S. v. 41). — Will
the following extract from Mr. Samuel
Cowan's ' Mary, Queen of Scots, and who
wrote the Casket Letters,' answer SCOTTISH
STUDENT ? —
" After the flight of Bothwell, Sir James
Balf our .... broke open Both well's private desk
.... and took out of it the bond for Darnley 's
murder, also the one signed at Ainslie's tavern,
requiring Bothwell to marry the queen. Balfour
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81
and Morton afterwards quarrelled, and we are
informed from a letter, Drury to Cecil, Novem-
ber 28th, that Maitland destroyed the latter bond
shortly after its discovery. Though the original
has been destroyed, a copy has fortunately been
preserved in the State Paper Office."
Mr. Cowan gives a copy of the bond in
the above-mentioned work.
W. A. HUTCHISON.
EPITAPHS TO SLAVES (12 S. iv. 323 ; v. 26).
— In the churchyard of Henbury, Gloucester-
shire, not far from the north porch, on the
west side of the footpath, is a headstone
bearing the following inscription : —
Here
Lieth the Body of
Scipio Africanus
Negro Servant to ye Bight
Honourable Charles William
Earl of Suffolk and Bradon [sic]
Who Died ye 31 December
1720 Aged 18 Years.
On the upper part of the headstone are
sculptured two woolly - headed cherubs,
painted black. Below the inscription are
two skulls.
The footstone has the following lines : —
I who was born a Pagan and a Slave
Now sweetly sleep a Christian in my grave.
What tho: my hue was dark, my Saviour's sight
Shall change this darkness into radiant light.
Such grace to me my LORD on earth has given
To recommend me to my LORD in Heaven,
Whose glorious Second Coming here I wait,
With Saints and ANGELS here to celebrate.
Charles William, Earl of Suffolk and
Bindon and Baron Chesterford, married
Arabella, dau. and coheir of Sir Samuel
Astry of Henbury by Elizabeth, dau. and h.
of George Morse of Henbury. He died at
Henbury Feb. 9, 1721/2, in his 29th year.
C. H. S. P.
WYBORNE FAMILY OF ELMSTONE, KENT
(12 S. iv. 130, 254 ; v. 49).— The Joseph
Wyborne who graduated M.A. at Cambridge
in 1606 was educated at Westminster School,
where he was on the foundation, and in
1598 was elected to a scholarship at Trinity,
to which he was admitted in the following
year. He could not have been Joseph
Wiborne who went up to Trinity from St.
Paul's in 1602. It would be interesting to
learn the parentage of these two Wybornes.
G. F. R. B.
ROBERT BLAKE (12 S. v. 41). — Robert
Blake, the eldest son of Sir Francis Blake,
Bart., died Jan. 25, 1754, aged 20, and was
buried in the North Cloister of Westminster
Abbey Feb. 1 following. He was admitted
to Westminster School in 1744, and matri-
culated at Oxford from Hertford, Dec. 13,
1751. There is no monument to him in the
Abfcey or Cloisters, so far as I am aware.
Strictly, he was not a " scholar " at West-
minster, as he was never on the foundation.
Chester, curiously enough, has failed to
identify him in his invaluable edition of
the ' Westminster Abbey Registers.'
G. F. R. B.
RAIN AND MOWING (12 S. v. 41).— The
same tradition is held in North Devon, but
it is there applied to reaping corn instead
of mowing grass. One of the poems of
Edward Capern, the postman poet of
Bideford, entitled * Jemmo's Curse ' (' Way-
side Warbles,' p. 201), is based upon it,
and the author adds the following note : —
" This is a very old tradition, which is as fully
believed in at the present time as that the sun
will rise at his appointed hour ; I have often
heard the inhabitants of Bideford say, when they
see the field under the sickle, ' We are certain to
have rain soon, for they are cutting Jemmo'ar
field.' "
R. PEAKSE CHOPE.
High up on the eastern side of what is
locally called the Standard Hill in the
Nottinghamshire wolds there is a four- or
five-acre field (it is in the parish of Hickling)
to which the same belief attaches. The
field is visible for many miles, and the
farmers in the neighbourhood used in my
boyish days to be chary of cutting their
grass when it was seen to be mown. "It is
sure to rain," they would say : " Jack
Craft [Jack's croft] is down." C. C. B.
HENSLOWE AND BEN JONSON (12 S.
iv. 271).- — Ben Jonson's mother married as
her second husband a "master brick-
layer " during the poet's childhood, the
family settling down at Hartshorn Lane,
Charing Cross. During his visit to Edin-
burgh Jonson told Drummond of Haw-
thornden that his early surroundings were
mean, and that he was taken from school
to learn the trade of a bricklayer ; but as
this occupation soon proved uncongenial he
made his escape to Flanders, served with
the English troops there, and slew a Spanish
soldier whom he challenged to single combat.
Jonson chaiacterized as a " duel " the
deed by which Gabriel Spencer, an actor of
Alleyn's company, met his death at his
lands. This occurred on Sept. 22, 1598.
The official record states that he was
arrested on a charge of felony and confessed
lis guilt (Middlesex Session Rolls ; see
Athenceum, March 6, 1886). He was let off
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with a term of imprisonment by virtue of
benefit of clergy. During the period of his
incarceration he became a Catholic " on
trust," but recanted some years later.
'The chief injury to him consequent on the
incident was the loss of his post of play-
wright to the Admiral's company, and his
transference to that of the Lord Chamber-
lain. The public, however, and even his
avowed enemies, treated the matter lightly.
Sir Sidney Lee considers Henslowe's letter
on the occasion " interesting " ; on the
other hand, Prof. Herford sees in it evidence
of the writer's " illiterate indignation."
See the articles in the ' D.N.B.' on Henslowe
and Jonson by Sir Sidney Lee and Prof.
Herford respectively. N. W. HILL.
CHRISTMAS VERSES AT SHEFFIELD (12 S.
iv. 324 ; v. 46). — It is curious to see " was-
: sail " turned into " Wesley." Some variations
which I remember as current in the West
Riding of Yorkshire in about 1865 may be
worth recording : —
A little purse " of ratchin' [stretching] leather
skin."
And here we come a-wesselin'
So fair as to be seen.
For " A New Year," " Anywhere," explained
• as " Anywhere we like to go."
Love and joy come to you,
And to you our wessel too.
Bring out the butler of this house,
Put on his golden ring ;
Let him bring us a glass of beer,
And better we shall sing.
And a good fat pig to kill every year.
The " Wesselers " carried three dolls in 'a
box to represent the Blessed Virgin, and the
infants Jesus and John the Baptist. On one
occasion at least there was a black doll in
addition, called " Tichbung," and said to
represent " Tichborne," the Claimant in a
once famous lawsuit.
There is an article on ' Representations
of the Virgin with Two Children ' in The
Sacristy, vol. ii. p. 150, by the late James
Fowler, F.S.A., of Wakefield. J. T. F.
Winterton, Lines.
BYRONIC STATUE IN FLEET STREET (12 S.
v. 40). — I can find no reference to this
somewhat striking figure in Muirhead's
excellent ' London and its Environs,' pub-
lished last year by Messrs. Macmillan.
Messrs. Attenborough, who have been in
business at 193 Fleet Street since 1888,
know nothing, I believe, about the statue, or
who put it there.
During the late eighties and early nineties
•of the last century many changes were
made in Fleet Street. Old houses (one of
them Dray ton's) were pulled down ; new
buildings were erected. At about that
period Sir John George Tollemache Sinclair,
Bt., an ardent — almost fanatical — admirer
of Byron, affixed at Byron House, 85 Fleet
Street, two medallions of the poet, as well as
a number of mural inscriptions relating to
him and embodying quotations from his
works. Sir John Sinclair also adorned
Hood House, 71 Fleet Street, with 'The
Song of the Shirt ' ; Nelson House, 53 Fleet
Street, with inscriptions referring to Nelson ;
and Mary Queen of Soots House, 143-4 Fleet
Street, with ' Queen Mary's Adieux to
France.'
Did Sir John Sinclair put up the statue
of Kaled ? I merely offer this as a sugges-
tion. E. G. C.
NAPOLEON AND LORD JOHN RUSSELL
(12 S. v. 12, 47).— The particulars given by
SIR WILLOUGHBY MAYCOCK and PRINCIPAL
SALMON respecting Lord John Russell's
visit to Napoleon at Elba may be supple-
mented by the account which Goldwin
Smith ('Reminiscences,' 1911, pp. 24-5)
heard from that statesman of his impressions
of the fallen tyrant : —
" It was difficult to find any one who had seen
Napoleon. I made that remark at a dinner-
party, when a voice near me said, ' I saw
Napoleon.' It was Lord Russell, who had paid
Napoleon a visit at Elba, accounts of which are
already in print. I asked Lord Russell whether
the common portraits were like. He said they
were. I asked him whether there was not in the
face that hard look of selfish ambition. This he
had not noticed ; but he aaid, and repeated with
emphasis, that there was something very evil in
the eye. When Lord Russell spoke of war,
Napoleon's eye flashed, showing, what was
certainly the fact, that the lust of war was with
him in itself a ruling passion. It is difficult to
divine what else could have led him to invade
Russia. He evidently had no intention of
restoring Poland. He was immensely fat, Lord
Russell said, and this might account for his fatal
lack of activity in his last campaign."
CHARLES LLEWELYN DAVIES.
10 Lupus Street, Pimlico, S.W.I.
SMOKING IN ENGLAND BEFORE THE IN-
TRODUCTION OF TOBACCO (12 S. iv. 331). —
I have a small collection of " fairy pipes,"
some with the remains of stems, but for the
most part without, all of which have been
picked up whilst I was at work on the
land. Most of them are quite plain ; others
have a small incised ornamentation outside
the bowl, a quarter of an inch below the
edge of the bowl ; and one of them has the
word " Dublin " incised on it.
12 s. V.MARCH, low.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
83
All the herbs mentioned in MR. LUCAS'S
•extract, with the addition of coltsfoot,
musk, and verbena, were in use to some
•extent seventy years ago ; and I have
gathered coltsfoot — both flowers and leaves
— for my father's pipes in Derbyshire.
THOS. RATCLIFFE.
P ANTON STREET PUPPET SHOW : FLOCKTON
(12 S. iv. 303). — This exhibition is mentioned
in Forster's ' Life of Goldsmith.' Burke
and Goldsmith witnessed a performance,
and Burke was much struck by the fashion
of one of the puppets " tossing a pike "
with military precision. Goldsmith pooh-
poohed the feat : he vowed he could do it
better himself. He returned to supper
with Burke, and severely hurt his shin in
exhibiting his dexterity to the companv
present. ^GEORGE MARSHALL.
MATTHEW ARNOLD : PROVING A NEGA-
TIVE (12 S. v. 38).— See the (later) Preface
to * Literature and Dogma ' (Smith &
Elder, 1891), especially the last paragraph ;
also this work and ' God and the Bible '
passim. S.
[MR. GEORGE MARSHALL thanked for reply.]
EDMUND CLERKE, CLERK OF THE PRIVY
SEAL (12 S. v. 12).— According to the
' Victoria History of Hampshire,' vol. iii.
p. 307, quoting " Chan. Inq. p. m. 29 Eliz.
no. 167,'' this man died in 1586. Cf. also
S. P. Dom. Eliz., cciii. 46, and pedigrees in
Harl. Soc. PubL, vol. Ixiv. pp. 188-9, and
Berry's ' Hants Genealogies,' p. 315.
JOHN B. WAINE WRIGHT.
AUTHORS OP QUOTATIONS WANTED (12 S. v. 42).
— MB. O'BRIEN'S first quotation should run as
follows : —
Exemplo Datrum commotus amore legend!
Ivit ad Kibernos sophia mirabile claros.
The lines are 91, 92 of a poem on the life and
family of Sulgenus (Sulien or Sulgen), Bishop of
•St. Davids, 1073-8 and 1080-86, by his son leuan.
The piece is given from a MS. at Corpus Christi
College, Cambridge, in Appendix D to vol. i. of
Haddan and Stubbs's ' Councils and Ecclesiastical
Documents relating to Great Britain and Ireland.'
'The Corpus MS. is one of St. Augustine's ' De
Trinitate,' Sulgen's Life being written on fly-
leaves at the end. See p. 667 in Haddan and
Stubbs, where we learn that " a few lines of this
poem have been printed by Archbishop Ussher
(' Belig. of Anc. Irish,' c. 3, end ; and ' Vett.
Epistt. Hibern. Syll.,' Pref.) from a 16th-century
copy then in the Cotton MSS. And from the
fragments of the same copy, half burned, which
are now in the British Museum, Bishop Burgess
printed a considerably larger portion in 1812."
The Corpus MS., which contains on the top of one
page a Latin invocation to St. Paternus, is said to
have been probably written at Llanba-darn Fawr,
•close to Aberystwyth. f '
2. This ought apparently to read thus : —
" Confluxerunt omni parte Europse in Hiber-
niam discendi causa tanquam ad mercaturam
[possibly mercatum] bonarum artium."
The author, whoever he was, clearly had in his
recollection a passage in Cicero : —
" Suscepisti onus prseterea grave et Athenarum
et Cratippi ; ad quos cum tamquam ad merca-
turam bonarum artium sis profectus," &c. (' De
Officiis,' iii. 2, 6).
Cainden, in the historical account of Ireland in
his ' Britannia,' has something very like the
" Confluxerunt " quotation, and immediately
afterwards introduces the lines "Exemplo
claros."
3. The first word, " Flocuerunt," should evi-
dently be " Floruerunt."
EDWARD BENSLY.
University College, Aberystwyth.
Jltrites 0tt Utrohs,
Characters from the Histories and Memoirs of the
Seventeenth Centuri/. With an Essay on the
Character, and Historical Notes, by David
Nichol Smith. (Oxford, Clarendon Press,
6s. net.)
Characters collected in this volume are not,
like the Characters of Hall, Overbury, and Earle,
epigrammatic studies of contemporary social
types ; they are what we should now term
character-sketches of historical personages. Mr.
Nichol Smith in his introductory essay draws, or
implies, a distinction between the character
proper, the portrait, and the short biography : a
character should deal with " central facts "
rather than with external features, and should
contain only a small admixture of biography.
Clarendon, whose ' History ' and ' Life ' provide
more than half the contents of the volume, is
held up as the model character-writer. The
section of the introduction devoted to him is on
the whole an admirable estimate of his qualities
as an historian, though a comparison of his fine
portrait of Charles I. with his unsympathetic
studies of Pym and Cromwell suggests the reflec-
tion that he gets rather more praise for impar-
tiality than he deserves. Nevertheless, with a
few exceptions, his characters are undoubtedly of
a higher quality than those of his competitors in
the same field, showing a wider range of compre-
hension and a keener eye for essentials. Sir
Philip Warwick and Bishop Burnet, good as their
work often is, have neither his insieht nor his
grace of style.
Among the best of the pieces extracted from
the works of other authors are Lucy Hutchinson's
memoir of her husband Col. John Hutchinson, and
(in a very different style) Shaftesbury's graphic
portrait of his Dorsetshire neighbour Henry
Hastings, who " bestowed all his time in sports,
but what he borrowed to caress his neighbours'
wives and daughters, there being not a woman in
all his walks of the degree of a yeoman's wife or
under, and under the age of forty, but it was
extremely her fault if he were not intimately
acquainted with her." The description of the
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interior of this gentleman's house — the hall hung
with sporting implements and the skins of
animals ; the pulpit of the adjoining chapel used
for storing chinas of beef, gammons of bacon, and
pasties of venison ; the parlour full of hounds,
spaniels, terriers, and cats, of which three or four
attended him at dinner, "a little white round
stick lying by his trencher that he might defend
such meat as he had no mind to part with
to them " — is extraordinarily vivi-i. Another
realistic portrait is that of James I. by Sir Anthony
Weldon, from ' The Court and Character of King
James.' Here will be found the familiar allusion
to the king as " th^ wisest fool in Christendom,"
quoted as the saying of " a very wise man.'
Although Sir Walter Scott (' Fortunes of Nigel,
chap, v.) attributes the epigram to Sully, Mr.
Nichol Smith informs us that he has searched
Sally's ' Memoires ' for it in vain.
The editor has made an excellent choice
of material, and the notes — neither too con-
cise nor over - elaborate — give just the kind of
information that the average reader seems likely
to require.
Chats on Ttoifal Copenhagen Porcelain. By
Arthur Hayden. (Fisher Unwin, 10s. 6d. net.)
MR. HAYDEN is an acknowledged authority on
Copenhagen porcelain, having published a
sumptuous monograph on the subject in 1911.
He has now provided a more popular account of
this attractive ware, beginning with the romance
connected with the discovery by Bottger of the
composition of true porcelain, and thf1 establish-
ment of the Danish factory by King Frederik V.
Copenhagen porcelain owed its rise to fame to the
artistic genius and indomitable perseverance of
Frantz Heinrich. Miiller, several of whose beautiful
productions are included in the numerous illus-
trations. After Muller's retirement in 1801 the
prestige of the Royal Factory declined, to revive,
however, in the later part of the nineteenth
century. Mr. Hayden supplies facsimiles of
marks and biographical notes on the artists em-
ployed, and closer, his volume with a description
of the ideal conditions under which the work is
carried on to-day.
The Genealogist. New Series. Vol. XXXIV.
(Bell & Sons, 12s. net.)
ONE of tte ir.opt important contribution? to tMs
volume is the revised ' Calendar of Lambeth Wills '
prepared by Mr. J. Challenor Smith. This
gentleman transcribed in August, 1874, the official
index to the wills and administrations at Lambeth,
but subsequent study of the documents them-
selves has enabled him to correct various in-
accuracies, and he therefore prints his revised
version, the three instalments supplied extending
from Abergavenny to Lyster. The results o"
similarly laborious work appear in Mr. E. A
Fry's ' Index to Marriages from The Gentleman1 1
Magazine,' covering those between January, 1731
and June, 1738, and containing many piquanl
personal details. Canon Nevill and Mr. Reginalc
Boucher continue their transcript of ' Marriage
Licences of Salisbury ' from January, 1670, tc
October, 1672. Among the genealogical articles
that of Mr. G. W. Watson on ' Fitz Piers and Dt
Say ' deserves special mention as throwing new
light from charters on some celebrated feuda
amilies.
The Oxford Almanack for the. Year of our Lord
•Hod MDCCCCXIX. is published by Mr. Milford, and
s a comely sheet preferable to many a garish
modern picture. At the side of the main record of
ates and events we find a neat list of the Uni ver-
ity officers, and another of Heads of the Colleges.
At the top is an attractive view of the Cornmarket
bout 1840, reproduced from a drawing by William
"urner. This artist had some fame in his day, and
was known, we believe, as " the Oxford Turner,"
o distinguish him from the master who at that
ime had not been introduced to the public by
luskin.
THE RIGHT HON. G. W. E. RUSSELL.
BY the death of Mr. George William Erskine
Russell, which occurred on St. Patrick's Day, the
amiliar initials G. W. E. R. will cease to appear
n the pages of * N. & Q.' He was politically a
great admirer of Gladstone, and, like him, a
levoted member of the Church of England. He
iad known many distinguished people, possessed
a large fund of anecdotes, was a good talker and
peaker, and wrote easily and well. For a number
f years he contributed gossipy articles to The
Manchester Guardian, many of these being re-
)rinted in book-form. He also published several
•eligious biographies, the latest being that of Lady
ictoria Buxton.
to OUmspnntonts,
REV. A. B. MILNER. — Forwarded.
S. STANSBY. — You have not sent address.
Please do so.
J. R. H. — If you address a letter c/o the
Editor, it will be forwarded.
W. BARN ABB (Epictetus). — Received too late
to be acknowledged last month.
C. G. (Army Slang).— Largely anticipated by
correspondents nearer home. See 12 S. iv. 333.
J. LANDFEAR LUCAS (Waldseemuller). — ' The
Ency. Brit.,' llth ed., states in the article ' Map
that Martin Waldseemuller was born at Radolf zell
in Baden in 1470, and died in 1521.
J. LANDFEAR LUCAS.— The lines,
What rage for fame attends both great and small !
Better be damned than mentioned not at all,
are by Peter Pindar, ' To the Royal Academicians.'
ANEURIN WILLIAMS, Carnarvon.— 1. The 'Diet.
Nat. Biog.' devotes a column to John Thomas, the
sculptor. He was born at Chalford, Gloucester-
shire, in 1813.— 2. The Dictionary also supplies an
interesting account of Thomas Evans, the editor
and publisher of ' Old Ballads, Historical and
Narrative,' 1784.
ST. SWITHIN ("Dich," * Timon of Athens,' I. n.
70)._The ' N. E. D.' says, s.v. : " A corrupt or
erroneous word, having apparently the sense
do it." As another instance of the word the
Dictionary quotes from R. Johnson's * Kingdom
and Commonwealth,' 1630 : " So mich God dich
you with your sustenanceless sauce," and compares
this with Udall's translation of Erasmus s ' Apoph.,
c< Biddyng much good do it him."
12 S. V. APRIL, 1919.]
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LONDON, APRIL, 1919
CONTENTS. —No. 91.
NOTES :-OM Dance Tunes in Salisbury Cathedral Library,
85 — ' Double Falsehood ' : Shakespeare, Fletcher, and
Theobald, 86 — Cornish Biographers, 88 — Statues and
Memorials in the British Isles, 89— Thomas Wakefield,
Hebraist, 91— " Vestis adriatica"— Chess : the Knight's
Tour, 92— " Thwertnic" or " Thiertnie." Old Cheshire
Custom — Heavitree, co. Devon, 1553-1653 — " Hand-
writing " as a Surname—" Pro pelle cutem," 93.
QUERIES:— Richard Stockton — 'Survev of Walden' —
French National Emblem, the Cock — George Washing-
ton's Wealth — "Si quis forte rogat" — Edna Lyall—
William Turner. M.F., 94— Richard Burton— Grim or
Grime— Devey Family — George Borrow : Lieut. Parry —
' The Swin— Boase Brothers— Queen Anne's Veto— Hervey
or Hervit, 95— Raleigh nnd Queen Elizabeth at Sandgate
— Fifteenth - Century Seal — Aldelima — Cornish and
Devonian Priests executed — Lowther— Mackworth, 96—
Cartwnght Family— Gilt Wand — Parkinson Family —
"Derby Blues"— Prince Charles Edward Stuart— Wad -
dingham Family— Brooke Robinson — " Rough " as House-
name, 97— William Nicholson— Proctor Family— Brown
Family — Alnbaculia, Name of a Racehorse — "Wilder-
ing " : " Wilding"— Clifton Family— Missel Thrush-Bird-
scaring Songs— "Drink by word of mouth" — Odessa in
Roman Times — Author of Quotation Wanted, 98.
REPLIES :— Stags and Eglantine. 99— Henry I. : Gloucester
Charter, 101 — Samuel Johnson and Ben Jonson — La Cour
on Windmill Power — Toad-Juice, 103— "Stateroom "—
Back-Magazine Dealers— Anthony Todd — Deacon in Love
—Edward Hyde, 104-' N.E.D.' : Changes in Accentuation
—Hedgehogs— ' Irrelagh ; or. The Last of the Chiefs'—
Vauvenargues — Pre-Raphaelite Stained Glass, 105 —
Abanazar— Oath of Fealty : Kdward III. — Burial at Sea
— Rain and Mowing— Kent, Family, 106— London-Paris
Airship — Byronic Statue in Fleet Street — Bishops of
the Fifteenth Century, 107— "Rain Cats and Dogs"—
St. Helena 'Life of Marlborough '— "Camouflage"— 'The
Poor Thresher,' Song attributed to Burns — "Nablette":
"Bontefeu," 108— Andrew B. Wright, Local Historian
and Actor — Hampshire Church Bells and {their Founders
— Finkle Street— Bell and Shoulder Inn, 109— Christmas
Verses at Sheffield— St. Clement as Patron Saint— Sir
Thomas Browne : Tom Brown, 110.
NOTES ON BOOKS :— 'Indexes to Irish Wills ' : Dromore,
Newry, and Mourne — 'The Beasts, Birds, and Bees of
Virgil '— ' Virgil and Isaiah : a Study of the " Pollio." '
Booksellers' Catalogues.
OBITUARY .-—John Thomas Page.
Notices to Correspondents.
JJflfcS.
OLD DANCE TUNES IN
SALISBURY CATHEDRAL LIBRARY.
IN our Cathedral Library at Salisbury is a
copy of the ' Catholicon ' of John of Genoa
printed in folio in 1497, rebacked, but
retaining its original boards and stamped
leather sides, and its end-papers of Caxton's
waste (which Dr. F. Jenkinson identifies a
two leaves of Gower's ' Confessio Amantis,
fo. xl° and fo. xlvij0, printed Sept. 2, 1483
at Westminster).
The leaf of blank paper at the beginning
of the lexicon as well as its fair title-page,
rearing the simple name ' Catholicon '
printed on it in February, 1497, were
destined in process of time to be written and
cribbled all over their surface by three or
more penmen in the sixteenth century.
1. One of these has written the moralizing
reflections : —
Superflua querere '. Est vilis Cupiditatis.,
Necessaria querere '. Est Infirmitatis.
Omnia relinquere '. est Perfeccionis.
These are written in a formal hand at the
op of the (verso) page which faces the title-
page.
2. Below this a clerk, writing a smaller
and freer script, has written the Latin
:ormula of some deed of arbitration, with
nitials A., B., C., D., adopted, instead of
names, as a guide for future use. Other
pages in the book show like signs of its having
served as a formulary of precedents for the
Chapter Clerk or some other legal personage.
3. The lower portion of the page was
utilized for noting down five dance tunes —
two of them with English names, the three
others with French names as they were
apprehended by an English ear in the six-
beenth century. I will transcribe these tunes
in hope that they may have some interest
for those who have a knowledge of music,
and who may perhaps be able to throw some
light upon the system of notation, or upon
the date and history of these tunes of
Elizabethan or even earlier date. Miss
Townsend Warner assures me that these five
tunes, as well as the eighteen like items
which occupy the recto side of the same fly-
leaf, in all probability denoted an instru-
mental part to a set of chansons a danser.
So far as I am aware, the precise instrument
for which they were here written has not
been easy to identify.
4. A later Tudor hand, regardless of what
had beeii written by the three previous
scribes, has covered four-fifths of the surface
of the page (including two of the tunes here
deciphered) with about forty lines in English.
I am not sure that this later writing may not
be the hand of Bishop Edmond Guest, who
in 1577 bequeathed all his books " to the
Library of the Cathedral Church of Sar. now
decayed. . . .to advance and further the
Estate and Dignity of the same my Church
and See."
The five tunes upon the page in question
are the last of the set which begins upon the
other side of that page, so I number them
accordingly.
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[22.] Feles a marye.
•7 b. ss. ddd. rrrb. ss.d. ss.rrr. b.ss.ddd.
rrr. b. ss. d. rrr. b. —
[23.] Filis a marer.
b'b'. ss. ddd. rrrb. [and so on, as above],
[24.] Petyrson.
bb. ss. ddddd. ss. rrrb. ss. ddd. ss. rrrb.
ss. d. ss. rrrb. ss. ddddd. ss. rrrb. —
[25.] Joyvs asspor.
dd. ss. ddddd. rrr b. ss. dd. rr. b'. —
[26.] The Kyngis basse Dauucc.
bb. ss. ddddd. ss. rrr b'b'. ss. d. rrrb. ss-
d. rb.—
Robert Peterson was a member of Lin-
coln's Inn who^e translations from the
Italian were printed in 1576 and 1606.
Whether no. 24, the third tune in this page,
owed its name or its authorship to him I do
not know.
The tune (22) called ' Feles a marye,' or
(23) * Filis a marer,' occurs likewise twice on
the preceding page, the notation being there
the same, except that a different clef is
prefixed — "ff" in the place of " 1 b " or
"b'bV The name is there differently (or,
so far a^ the French goes, indifferently) spelt
(no. 1) 'Feleys a marye,' and (no. 5) ' Feles
A marer.' Miss Warner suggests that the
original name was ' Filles o marier,' and that
it may have been once upon a time a tune
as familiar and as popular as ' Come, Lasses
and Lads.'
The names of the remaining tunes, as
written on the recto page, are these : —
2. Feteron.
3. le Fraunces.
4. Amors.
6. la bell'.
7. la a Jenyon.
8. la Dame.
9. la brandon.
10. la Gylderos.
11. la (^p)rinces.
12 (and 15). la basse dance de Spayfi.
[Key of it (and bb).]
13 (and 14). la havtte de bourgoiie. [Key of ft
(and b'b' crossed).]
16. la basse daunce de Venise.
17. la basse daunce de gent Beneir.
18. Nenemi.
19. mo maters.
20. To been paria.
21. la basse daunce hautce la ba.
Every one of the tunes begins with the
letter d (immediately preceded by a clef,
viz., either ff, or 66, or 6'6', or 6, or, in the
single instance of ' Joyvs asspor,' dd ; and
the ss or bar), the initial d occurring singly
in the opening of ' La Belle ' ; but it is thrice
or five times repeated at the beginning of
the other tunes. All of them conclude upon
6, or 6' (crossed). The only other note which
occurs — besides d and 6 — is r, which is some-
times repeated twice consecutively, some-
times thrice ; or occasionally, as in the tune
called ' La Dame,' a single r occurs between
d and 6.
La Dame,
ft. ss. ddd rrr. b. ss. drb. ss. dddrb —
La basse Daunce de Venise.
bb. ss. ddd ss. rd.r.b'. ss. d. ss. rrr. b'b'.
ss. ddd. rdrb'. ss. d.rrrb'b'. ss. ddddd. ss. rd.r.b.
ss. ddd. ss. rrr bb.d.rb'.
CHR. WORDSWORTH.
St. Nicholas', Salisbury.
' DOUBLE FALSEHOOD ' :
SHAKESPEARE, FLETCHER, AND
THEOBALD.
(See ante, pp. 30, 60.)
I HAVE not endeavoured to work out the
percentages of end-stopt lines or of feminine
endings or of any other of the special
metrical characteristics of Fletcher in those
fragments of scenes where his work appears
not to have been interfered with, because
they are somewhat too brief to afford us
any certain footing ; but his tricks of repeti-
tion and of sentence-building and his
phraseology all find place here, and the
habit of thought is his. The characteriza-
tion is so badly blurred that it is difficult
to draw any conclusion from it ; but, as
Mr. Bradford remarks, the two old men,
who are barely mentioned in the Cervantes
story, are " exactly the types of garrulous,
waspish, fretful, pompous old men " dear to
Fletcher. For other matters, Mr. Bradford
points out quite justly that betrayal of
friendship forms the subject of 'Double
Falsehood ' as of ' Two Noble Kinsmen ' ;
that as the lovelorn gaoler's daughter in the
one is overtaken by madness, so is the
wronged Julio in the other ; that the
conduct of the story is on the lines of the
Beaumont and Fletcher romantic dramas as
well as on those of the later Shakespearian
drama ; that Fletcher was very fond of
going to Cervantes for his plots ; that here,
as in ' Pericles,' ' Winter's Tale,' ' The
Tempest,' and * Cymbeline,' " an important
element of the denouement is the common
romantic theme of the restoration of lost
children to their parents " ; that the piling
up of climax on climax in the closing scene
is similar to the nature and conduct of the
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final scene in ' Cymbeline,' and that it is
accomplished by an entire departure from
the original story in ' Don Quixote ' ; and
we also have the interesting fact that, as in
* Henry VIII.' and ' Two Noble Kinsmen,'
Fletcher had nothing to do with the opening
scenes.
I may say that I am in places reminded
of Beaumont (in II. ii., III. iii., and V. ii.),
but not so strongly as to warrant me in
supposing him to have been concerned in
the work. I may mention further that the
name Violante occurs in Beaumont's
•' Triumph of Love,' and that a Gerrard is
one of the characters in ' Beggars' Bush,' of
the original version of which I have else-
where shown reason to believe that Beaumont
was part author : in this play we have a
Gerald introduced, and the Dorothea of the
'Cervantes story becomes Violante. So, too,
Cardenio becomes Julio ; Luscinda, Leonora ;
Ricardo, Angelo ; and Fernando (or Fer-
dinando), Henriquez.
I feel that I must refer here to an article
by another American, Prof. Rudolph Sche-
-vill, in Modern Philology, in which he has
•sougjit to prove that Theobald took the
story from a collection of novels published
nearly two years later than the play, though
I fail to see that he has made out any case.
The one argument he adduces that seems to
«all for reply is that in which he urges that
the names of the characters in the play must
have been conceived in its original construc-
tion, inasmuch as "it seems incredible that
Theobald should have rewritten a play in
verse to the extent of putting ' Julio ' for
•' Cardenio,' and the like, in every verse in
which one of the many names occurs." He
thinks there can have been no reason for
changing the names, but the fact remains
'.that the names have been changed, and the
only question is whether the change was
made by the original author or authors or by
the reviser and editor. There is no definite
.evidence one way or the other ; but it is to
be noted that where Fletcher's work has not
been hacked about the names " Cardenio "
and " Luscinda " can be substituted without
detriment to the verse for " Julio " and
"Leonora" (in III. iii. and IV. ii.). In
•other places " Cardenio " cannot be substi-
tuted for " Julio," and only once (in V. ii.)
can " Luscinda " replace " Leonora."
If we refuse to regard the play as origin-
.ally Elizabethan and look on it as a shame-
less forgery by Theobald, we are driven to
consider that, though he knew nothing of
,a,ny supposition of a collaboration of Shake-
.speare and Fletcher in a play on the subject,
he yet about midway through the play
abruptly changed his style and adopted what
is at least a remarkably good imitation of
the Fletcherian manner. Had he suspected
such collaboration, he might possibly have
done so ; but in the circumstances the
demand made upon us for an acceptance of
the theory of mere coincidence is altogether
too much. The weakness of Sir Sidney
Lee's supposition that " Theobald doubtless
took advantage of a tradition that Shake-
speare and Fletcher had combined to
dramatize the Cervantes theme " is that
there is no proof of such a tradition — that,
in fact, there is the strongest reason for
saying that Theobald had never heard the
slightest hint of it. The play must there-
fore, I think, be regarded as genuinely based
on an Elizabethan drama and as containing
passages that were contained in the original,
and the early author of the latter portion of
it must on internal evidence be set down as
Fletcher.
But, if so much be granted, we are faced
with the possibility that Fletcher's colla-
borator, the original author of the earlier
part of the play, was Shakespeare. Here
two great stumbling-blocks stand in the
way of the inquirer. The one is that dis-
inclination (to which I have already referred)
to see Shakespeare's work in anything outside
of the recognized canon ; and the other is
the fact that the work of this writer has been
overwritten to a very much greater extent
than has Fletcher's. Why is this the case ?
Mr. Bradford's argument is sound when he
says : —
" The fact that Theobald's revision is much
less evident in Fletcher's part of the play than in
the other would be easily accounted for if he had
in the one case to deal with the rugged, vigorous,
difficult thought of Shakespeare's later period, in
the other with Fletcher's fluent theatrical rhetoric,
and if we remember that the revision was intended
for the stage."
And let me finally, quoting Mr. Bradford's
reply to a supposed contention that not even
the greatest " labour and pains " of a
Theobald could have obliterated Shake-
speare so successfully, remark on
" the extraordinary habits of rev*sers generally
which could make even so true a poet and so
genuine a Shakespearian as D'avenant write,
apparently with the idea that he was improving
his model —
Duncan is dead.
He after Life's short fever now sleeps well.
Treason has done its worst ; nor steel, nor poison
Nor foreign force, nor yet domestic malice
Can touch him further."
There is, however, no need for British
and probably no need for American, students
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of Shakespeare to turn to D'avenant for an
example of what revisers are capable of.
Theobald himself revised Shakespeare's
' Richard II.' and Webster's * Duchess of
Malfi.' His version of neither of these plays
is available to me, but those within reach of
the British Museum are in a more favourable
position to test by them Theobald's methods
and merits as a reviser. At the same time, I
may point out that Theobald's work on
neither of these well-known and successful
plays was likely to be one quarter so thorough
as on a play which was absolutely unknown
and which he believed never to have been
staged.
In conclusion, lest any one should so
misrepresent me as to assert that I ascribe
the play partly to Shakespeare on the
strength of a few lines bearing some resem-
blance to his style, let mo say that I am not
guilty of such folly. One can consider
internal evidence as of value only when it is
not contradicted by the external, or when,
in the case of such contradiction, there is
reason to doubt the latter' s genuineness.
Here the evidence of style is altogether too
slight to afford any firm standing so far as
Shakespeare is concerned. The presence of
Fletcher is, however, much clearer, and
might almost be sufficient in any case to
warrant the attribution of part of the play
to him. The external evidence confirms this
view, and may be held to establish a sound
case for Fletcher ; and, as this evidence
makes Shakespeare Fletcher's collaborator,
it lends probability to the supposition that
the other original writer whose work is still
visible is our great master-dramatist. In
view then of his participation in the original
play, every line that bears the impress of his
genius or the marks of his style may not
unreasonably be set down as his ; and there
are a few — though unfortunately only a
very few— such lines left.
E. H. C. OLIPHANT.
Melbourne.
CORNISH BIOGRAPHERS.
IT is difficult to estimate the great services
to biography and bibliography rendered by
three Cornishmen and Londoners: George
Clement Boase, Frederic Boase, and William
Prideaux Courtney. Each of them devoted
a large portion of his life and means to
the great work he had undertaken.
I became acquainted with them in the
following manner. On the publication of
my * Handbook of Fictitious Names ' in
1868, a copy was placed on the reference
shelves of the Reading-Room at the British
Museum. This place, I should like to
observe, it kept until lately, when it was
turned out — I presume because it was too
dirty to remain, as no other works have yet
made it quite useless. When I was first a
reader at the Museum I was greatly in-
terested in a little French book (the earliest
on the subject) by Adrien Baillet, which for
years stood on the top of the same " press "
as mine ; but the ' Handbook ' was on a-
level with the eye. Baillet, with hundreds
of others, was removed into the General
Library some years ago.
Courtney saw the ' Handbook,' and took
an opportunity of introducing himself to-
me in the Reading-Room. He introduced
me to the Boases, and but for that, I
feel certain, I should never have known
them, as they were so excessively modest
and reticent, and kept so much to-
themselves, always being at work .from
morning till night. They were all three
frequently guests at my house, and so
were to the end.
From 1868 to their respective deaths I
more or less assisted them. Courtney
required no assistance from me in com-
position, for in that he was facile princeps ;
but I read the proof-sheets of his ' Biblio-
theca Cornubiensis,' and I am still asked to-
do this for * Modern English Biography.'
The second volume of Courtney's work I
reviewed in ' N. & Q.' on Feb. 9, 1878
(5 S. ix. pp. 118-9) ; curiously, a biographical
notice of Cruikshank by H. S. Ashbee also
occurs on the latter page, and H. F. Turle
was then editor, «,!! three being my personal
friends. Turle's early death (from smallpox)
is commemorated, on the tablet to his father,
on the North Cloister wall of Westminster
Abbey.
There are notices of Charles Wm. (of
Exeter College) and George Boase in ' Modern
English Biography,' vol. iv. We always
called the latter "Mr." George, as he was
not only older than we were, but looked still
older from his white hair. In the preface
to 'M.E.B.,' vol. i., 1892, p. 5, F. Boase
expresses his thanks to his brothers and
W. P. Courtney, and also to R. Bissell
Prosser of the Patent Office and to me " for
information about inventors and other
persons." This has always struck me as
being rather obscurely expressed. I, of
course, am only represented by the " other
persons," for at that time Boase was, I
fancy, much more indebted to Prosser, who-
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
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was in the Patent Office, than to me. Since
then, however, I have not only read proof-
sheets for many years, but made searches for
births, marriages, deaths, and wills at the
official repositories at Somerset House — in
many caies without success, which is rather
astonishing, as they all relate to persons who
have died since 1850. There are numbers of
deaths of which the registration cannot, for
various reasons, be traced. One instance I
recollect wa3 that of a person named Yonge,
particulars of whose death could not be
found. There was no doubt about the death
having been registered : eventually it was
found under Jonge. The case of Anne
Humby the actress was one that troubled
Fred Boaie greatly. I mentioned it in
4 N. & Q.' in 1893 (8 S. iv. 62), and have since
heard that she married again, and was buried
under the name of her second husband,
whatever that was.
Another curious thing is that at the end
<of each volume of the Somerset House
registers are entries of thousands of persons,
from infants upwards, who are unidentified,
except as " dead body found," male or
female.
When in ' Modern English Biography '
the reader comes across "Death not
registered," that means I had a long search
without result. This book is of " persons
who have died during the years 1851-1900,"
and who did anything wise, foolish, or
notorious. The first volume was issued in
1892, and I contributed some comments on
it at 8 S. i. 487 (1892), and iv. 62 (1893).
At 8 S. xii. 301 (Oct. 16, 1897) MB. W. P.
COURTNEY contributed a long account of
George Clement Boase, whose death had
occurred on the 1st of that month.
Frederic Boase was brought up to the law,
but he never took to it. He passed his
examinations, and was admitted a solicitor
on Jan. 31, 1867, and nominally practised
at Exmouth. I presume that was the year
he came to London, but he took out no other
certificate to practise.
One day in 1877 I heard of the retirement
of the Librarian of the Law Society : he died
in retirement in his ninety-first year. I at
once posted off to Boase, and told him it
was a position for which he was just suited.
He applied, and in due course was appointed.
He retired in 1903, when, as usual, he was
granted a pension. He had already come
into money on his father's death in Septem-
ber, 1896, and inherited more in October,
.1897, on the death of his brother George.
RALPH THOMAS.
STATUES AND MEMORIALS IN THE
BRITISH ISLES.
(See 10 S. xi., xii.; 11 S. i.-xii. passim;
12 S. i: 65, 243, 406 ; ii. 45, 168, 263, 345 ;
iii. 125, 380, 468 ; iv. 69, 207, 294, 319.)
LOCAL WORTHIES (continued).
BABING FAMILY.
Exeter.— On May 1, 1913, a tablet in St.
Leonard's Church was unveiled by the Earl
of Northbrook, and dedicated by the Bishop
of Exeter, in memory of mer r« ~* the
Baring family, who resided in the p; n oi'
nearly 100 years up to 1816. During that
period the second John Baring was member
of Parliament for Exeter for 25 years. The
tablet is thus inscribed : —
" To the memory of John Baring of Larkbear,
who died 1748, aged 52 ; Elizabeth Vowler, his
wife, who died 1766, aged 64 ; and of their
children Thomas Vowler Baring, who died 1758,
aged 25, and John Baring of Mount Radford, who
died 1816, aged 85 ; and of Ann Parker, his wife,
who died 1765, aged 36 ; also of- their children,
Ann, who died %L804, Elizabeth, who died 1802,
and Francis, who died 1810. all of whom lie
buried in the adjacent churchyard. This monu-
ment is erected by Francis George, second Earl of
Northbrook, the Honble. Francis Henry Baring.
Francis Denzil, 5th Baron Ashburton, John,
second Baron Bevelstoke, Evelyn, first Earl of
Cromer, descendants of John and Elizabeth
Baring, 1913."
The tablet was designed by Sir Thomas
Graham Jackson.
SIB S. A. SADLER.
Middlesboro'. — On June 21, 1913, the
Right Hon. Sir John Seely (the Secretary
for War) unveiled a statue of Sir Samuel
Alexander Sadler, which had been erected
by public subscription in Victoria Square.
The statue is of bronze, the work of Prof.
Edward Lanteri, and represents Sir Samuel
in Court dress and wearing his mayoral
robes. The pedestal is of Peterhead granite,
and stands in the centre of a semicircular
wall of the same material, terminating at
each end with pillars bearing inscribed
tablets. The total height of the statue and
pedestal is 20 ft., the statue being 8 ft. 3 in.
high. The inscriptions are as follows : —
[On pedestal] (Borough arms)
Sir Samuel
Alexander Sadler
Knight, V.D.
1842-1911.
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[On right pillar] This monument" | was
erected by | public subscription | to commemorate
| a career devoted | to the service of | the
community. | Unveiled A.D. 1913.
[On left pillar] Sir Samuel Sadler | was a
member of | the Town Council of | Middles-
borough 1873-1911, | Mayor 1877, 1896, and
1910 | Member of Parliament I for Middles-
borough ! 1900-1906. He served | in the Volun-
teer and | Territorial Forces j 1860-1911 and as
Colonel | and Hon. -Colonel of | the 1st V.B. D.L.I,
and | 5th Durham L.I. 1876-1911.
MAUD HEATH.
Bremliill, Wilts. — From an illustrated
article in The Field of Oct. 4, 1913, entitled
' Maud Heath's Causeway,' I make the
following extract : —
" Tradition relates that Maud Heath was a
market woman living in the village of Bremhill,
who having long felt by sad experience the incon-
venience of a swampy walk to Chippenham and
back, especially in the conveyance of such
perishable ware as butter and eggs, devoted the
savings of her life to the laudable purpose of
providing a good footing for her successors in all
time to come. She made no will, but during her
lifetime, in the year 1474, she gave to certain
trustees some houses and land in and near
Chippenham to carry out her intentions. To
commence with, the trustees built a causeway,
that is, a narrow. stone-flagged- road, along the
prescribed route. . . .Certainly not later than 1698
the trustees had constructed a highway. As the
years rolled on the property bequeathed by Maud
Heath increased in value,' and the trustees had
funds sufficient to make this an excellent road, to
provide a footpath by the side, and to rebuild
the bridge over the Avon. In 1811 they raised
the footway on a chain of about sixty arches over
the meadows, which are liable to flooding, adjoin-
ing the Avon ; and in 1 853 they defrayed the cost
of the present stone bridge over the river. In
short, the cost of everything connected with the
maintenance of this thoroughfare is defrayed by
the Trust."
The road is about 4^ miles long, reaching
from the east side of Chippenham, through
Langley Burrell, across the Avon, to the
top of Bremhill Wick Hill.
Near the Avon bridge is a stone memorial
surmounted by a sundial. It is about
12 ft. high, and is thus inscribed : —
" lo the memory of the worthy Maud Heath
of Langley Burrell, widow, who in the year of
grace 1474, for the good of travellers, did in
charity bestow in land and houses about 8?. a
year for ever, to be laid out on the highway and
causey leading from Wick Hill to Chippenham
Clift. Erected by the feoffees in 1698. Injure
me not."
Beside the road near the top of Wick Hill
a stone is inscribed with the following
couplet : —
From this Wick Hill begins the praise
Of Maud Heath's gift to these highways/
On the top of the hill an octagonal
column, rising from a square plinth to a
height of about 40 ft., is placed. On the
summit is seated a stone figure of Maud
Heath, clad in the garb of a market woman.
In her hand she grasps a staff, and beside
her stands a basket laden with butter and
eggs. It was erected in 1838 by two of the
trustees — Henry, Marquis of Lansdowiie,
and the Rev. Wm. Bowles, Vicar of Brem-
hill.
HUNTSMAN FAMILY.
West Retford, Notts. — In September,.
1913, a sacristy was added to the church of
St. Michael. It was dedicated by Canon
Gray as a gift of members of the Huntsman
family. On the stonework of the chancel
is carved the following inscription : —
Benjamin Huntsman
A.D. 1820-1893.
His wife, Anna Maria
A.D. 1825-1897.
And their Son, Francis Huntsman
A.D. 1852-1910.
Thou wilt keep them in perfect peace.
This sacristy was erected by Mary, widow of
Francis Huntsman, and her brothers and sisters-
in-law, Harry and Amy Huntsman, Alice and1
John Walker, Hilda and Alexander Bethel.
Charles Gray, Rector.
ALDERMAN G. J. JOHNSON.
Brampton, Cumberland. — In Front Street,,
near St. Martin's Hall and the parish
church, is placed a square granite pillar to
the memory of Alderman Johnson. It is
slightly raised by steps from the roadway,
and is surmounted by a lamp. On the
front is inserted a bronze medallion por-
trait, the work of Mr. Edward Gill of London.
The memorial was erected by public sub-
scription at a cost of 300Z. It is thus
inscribed : —
[East side] (Medallion.)
In Memory of
George John Johnson,
of Castlesteads, J.P., Deputy
Lieutenant, County Aldeiman.
Born 28th June, 1816. Died 23rd
December, 3896.
[West side]
Know thou, O stranger to the fame
Of this much loved, much honoured name ;
For none that knew him need be told,
A warmer heart death ne'er made cold.
[North side] Erected by public subscription in
recognition of his many public services — 20 years-
Chairman of the Brampton Petty Sessions, 28
years Chairman of the Brampton Board of
Guardians, and active member of Quarter Sessions,
and 28 years Chairman of the Cattle Disease
Executive Committee.
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[South side] Under his Chairmanship the
TJrampton Guardians secured, a supply of good
"water for the town, and reformed its drainage,
1870-1876. The Cattle* Disease Executive Com-
mittee also adopted the Cumberland system of
stamping out disease, which commenced with
the Cattle Hague 1866.
Plain, patient work fulfilled that length of days
JOHN T. PAGE.
Long Itchington, Warwickshire.
(To be continued.)
STATUES AND MEMORIALS : DUKE or
MABLBOROUGH. — MR. J. T. PAGE'S carefully
-compiled index of those whom contem-
poraries or posterity have deemed lapide
digni reveals an important absentee : John
€hurchill, first Duke of Marlborough, one
of the greatest of British commanders. At
the date of his death party passion ran so
high that no minister would have had the
courage to ask for a grant of public money to
•erect a lasting memorial to the victor of
Blenheim, Ramillies, and Malplaquet. Suc-
ceeding generations seem to have forgotten
him. Marlborough House has survived, but
its original occupant has no place of honour
beside it. L. G. R.
[Although MR. PAGE had not been able to
record any public statue of the Duke of Marl-
foorough, he described at 11 S. vii. 144 the statue
on a high column in the grounds of Blenheim
Palace, the palace and park having been pre-
sented to the Duke by the nation as a token of its
gratitude. At p. 65 of the same volume he
printed the inscription in honour of the Duke
which is carved on an obelisk at Castle Howard.
A further instalment of ' Statues and Memorials '
was in type at the time of MB. PAGE'S death.]
THOMAS WAKEFIELD, HEBRAIST. —
"Thomas Waken" eld was the first Regius Pro-
fessor of Hebrew at Cambridge, and died
1575. The information following, concern-
ing himself and his family, is written on the
fly-leaves and in the Kalendar of a fifteenth-
•century manuscript Book of Hours in my
possession, and it adds some interesting
details to the account given in the ' Dic-
tionary of National Biography.' The con-
tractions of the original are expanded.
" Thomas Wakefelde."
" Agnes Tilney filia Thoma3 Tilney armigeri et
Miargaretse uxoris suae, et jam uxor Thomae
Wakefelde de Chesterton in comitatu Canta-
'brigise generosi, nata fuit apud manerium de
^chellay in comitatu Suftolchise decimo septimo
die mensis februarii — Anno regni regis benrici
•octavi septimo et anno Domini — M.D. decimo
•quinto. Et foelicissime mortem obiit mulier
castissima et marito deditissima 19 dominico die
augusti in plenilunio anno secundo Edwardi sexti,
relinquens post se liberos duos, sepultaque jacet
in ecclesia de Chesterton."
" Thomas Wakefelde films Gulielmi Wakefelde
Armigeri et Johannae uxoris ejus, in artibus
magister et publicus Lector Begiae Lectionis
hebraicae apud cantabrigiam, nee non Justiciarius
pacis hi comitatxi Cantabrigiae, natus fuit apud
Pontemfractum in comitatu Eboraci, et mense
septembris in vigilia nativitatis B. Marise Virginia
in nocte, quarta scilicet vigilia, parum ante solis
ortum. Anno regni regis Benrici septimi, dum
pater ejus esset illius oppidi prsefectus, et anno
Domini — M.D."
" Anno quarto Edwardi sexti, ego idem Thomas
Wakefelde de Chesterton custos pacis domini regis
in comitatu Cantabrigise, duxi. in secundam
uxorem Alysiam Jacob filiam Johannis Jacob de
Suthberye in comitatu Suffolchise, die lunae ante
pentecostem qui fuit decinonus dies Mail.
Henricus Leyer fuit avus Alysiae uxoris meae ex
parte matris."
" Nomina liberorum Thomae Wakef eldi manentis
Chestertoni in comitatu Cantabrigiae, et Begii
Professoris hebraicae linguae in alma Achademia
Cantabrigiae, quos peperit sibi sua dilectissima
conjux Agnes, filia Thomae Tilnei armigeri, qui
Hadleghi in comitatu Suflolchiae habitat."
" Thomas Wakef eld filius meus natu maximus
natus fuit apud Dalhamum in comitatu Suffol-
chiae in aedibas Thomae Stutfelde armigeri, in die
lunae qui dicatus est divo Bricio, in mense
novembri die scilicet tertiodecimo ejusdem mensis
intra horas septimam et octavam antemeridianas.
Anno a Christi nativitatis quadragesimo secundo
supra millesimum et quingentesimum. Et anno
regni Illustrissimi regis nostri Henrici octavi
tricesimo quarto ; cujus susceptores e'sacro fonte
erant Thomas Hegham et Thomas Stutefelde
armigeri et vidua Stutefelde illius Thomae mater,
eumque apud episcopum tenuit, Dominus
Johannes Soudelye, rector ecclesiae de Landebecne
in comitatu Cantabrigiae."
" Alisia filia mea in lucem e matre Agnet<
edita fuit in die veneris, qui erat decimus sextus
dies mensis Januarii, intra horas sextam et
septimam aut paulopost apud Chesterton in
aedibus meis. Anno salutis nostrae M.D. quad-
ragesimo quarto, et tricesimo sexto anno Begis
Henrici octavi fidei defensoris, et in terris supremi
capitis ecclesiarum Anglicanae et Hibermcae.
Susceptores habuit Alisiam Coke uxorem Willelmi
Coke armigeri, et legum nostrarum periti (ser-
vientis),* et Annam Cheke viduam Cantabrigen-
siem et Doctorem Wigan Begiuni professorem
Sacrae Theologiae Cantab rigae."
In the Kalendar are the following entries J
16 Jan. " Hodie nata fuit Alysia Wakefelde
filia Thomae Wakefelde Chestertoni."
19 Aug. " Hodie in nocte intra horas nonam
et decimam felicissime in Domino moritur Anna
Wakefelde uxor Thorn® Wakefelde, mulier
castissima et pudicissima. Sepiliturque in aede
sacra Chestertoni."
13 Nov. " Iste die natus er&t Thomas Wake;
feldus apud Dalehamum, filius Thomae Wakef eldi
Chestertoniensis . "
A. J. V. RADFOBD.
* This word has been written above periti.
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" VESTIS ADRIATICA." (See 11 S.
viii. 270.) — At the above reference L. L. K.
quoted the following passage from
St. Alexius' s life in the ' Legenda Aurea ' of
Jacobus de Voragine, and asked for an
explanation of " vestis adriatica," which, as
he observed, " French and other Continental
writers translate as ' vesture de deuil,'
' raiments of sorrow, mourning,' or ' black
dress '":—*.
" Sponsa vero eius induta veste adriatica
cucurrit plorans."
It was natural to conjecture that the text
might be corrupt, an obvious — too obvious —
emendation being atrata. An examination
of the saint's life in the Bollandist ' Acta
Sanctorum ' threw no light on the difficulty.
In the ' Sancti Alexii Viri Dei Vita ' given
from Simeon Metaphrastes in the abridgment
of Aloysius Lipomanus's ' Vitse Sanctorum,'
1573, pt. ii. p. 339, the words used are
" Sponsa vero lugubri veste induta currens,"
&c. I have not examined the original Greek
of the Metaphrast, but am now strongly
inclined to believe that adriatica is a cor-
ruption of Atrabatica. See Du Cange's
account of " Atrabaticre Vestes " ; and
' Atrebates ' and ' Atrabaticus ' in the
' Thesaurus Linguae Latinae,' vol. ii. col. 1094.
It appears from the ' Thesaurus ' that,
although of course the adjective " Atraba-
ticus," when applied to clothing, means that
it was manufactured by the Atrebates, the
Gallic tribe whose chief town was the modern
Arras, yet Johannes Lydus and Suidas,
misled by the resemblance to atriim, sup-
posed the name to refer to the colour.
Prof. Postgate has pointed out to me that
certain MSS. haveAdrebas instead of Atrebas
in Csesar, 'E.G.,' iv. 35, 1. This helps to
show that the corruption of " Atrabatica " or
" Atrebatica " to "Adriatica" is easy and
natural. EDWARD BENSLY.
CHESS : THE KNIGHT'S TOUR. — The well-
known problem, or puzzle, of the Knight's
tour consists in the discovery of a series of
moves by which the Knight, starting from a
given square, may visit successively, but
only once, every square of the chessboard.
The problem has been solved in many
different ways, but I doubt whether it has
hitherto been shown that the tour may start
from any square — that all the squares of
the board will serve the Knight's purpose
equally well.
Let the reader take, or make for himself,
any solution of the puzzle. In the tour that
lies mapped out before me, which I will call
A, square 1, from which the Knight starts,
TOUR A.
28
11 '
42
49
30
9
32
45
41
48
29
10
43
46
19
8
12
27
50
47
18
31
44
33
51
40
17
64
61
58
7
20 ;
26
13
52
59
16
63
34
57
39
2
15
62
53
60
21
6
14
25
54
37
4
23
56
35
1
38
3
24
55
36
5
22
is Queen's Rook's square ; and square 64.,
at which he ends, is Queen's 5th. Now for
certain inferences. In the first place, the
tour may be reversed — may start from 64
as well as from 1. Next, a Knight standing
at 64 commands, in the tour before me^
squares 63, 53, 15, 13, 27, 29, 43, and 31.
It follows, therefore, that, besides 64r
squares 54, 16, 14, 28, 30, 44, and 32 are
squares from which other tours can be made~
For instance, the tour beginning, say, at
square 16, proceeds from 16 forwards to 64,.
and then, as 15 is a Knight's move from 64*
from 15 backwards to 1. Let us call this
tour B, and record it on a plan or diagram:
of a blank chessboard, marking 16 as 1, 17 as
2; 64 as 49, 15 as £0, 14 as 51, 13 as 52, and
so on. Again, a Knight at square 1 of the
A tour commands, besides 2, square 54. It
follows that a fresh tour may be made
backwards from 53 to 1, and then, as the
Knight commands 54, forwards from 54
to 64. We infer, then, from our first tour A*
that squares 1, 64, 54, 16, 14, 28, cO, 44, 32,
and 53 — ten in all — are possible starting-
points. Tour B should be treated in the
same manner for the discovery of other
squares from which the Knight may start.
Record the results on a blank diagram of
64 squares, and make as many more tours,,
each of them strictly derived or deduced from
its predecessor, as may be necessary to-
cover the wThole board with possible starting-
points. I have found six tours necessary ,.
some of them, as it happened, yielding very
scanty new results.
But this is not all. As the board has four
sides, and can be turned in fcur different
directions, every square is one of a set oi
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four whose relative positions on the four
sides of the board are corresponding and
identical. Obviously, if the tour may begin
from one corner square, it may begin fiom
all of them ; and so with all the other ascer-
tained starting-points, since each has three
others corresponding to it. When not only
the possible starting-points, as shown by
-each tour, are marked on the blank chess-
board, but also their corresponding squares
^as well, not; many tours will have to be made
before every square is covered and the
xlemonstration is complete. B. B.
" THWERTNIC " OB ." THIERTNIE," OLD
CHESHIRE CUSTOM. — There are a number of
allusions in the early records of Cheshire to
•a mysterious affair called " Thwertnic."
Thus, in Ranulph Blundeville's charter of
liberties to his barons and knights, about
1216, we read that if his sheriff or any officer
shall implead any of their men in the Earl's
-court, " per thiertnic se defendere poterit
propter Sherife-tooth quod reddunt nisi
secta eum sequatur " (Ormerod, i. 53).
The pleas of the barons of Dunham Massy
and of Halton are to the same effect,
omitting the reference to the sheriff-tooth
(ibid., 526 and 705).
We also read of " a certain liberty called
Thwertnyk," pertaining to the stewardship
of Chester held by Roger de Montalt (ibid. , 57).
An explanation by Sir Peter Leycester
(ibid., 54) that the word is equivalent to
"" thirdnicht," " trium noctium hospes,"
three nights' charges for the sheriff's diet,
seems inadequate. What was this " thiert-
nic " with which a man could defend himself
when charged by the sheriff ? The explana-
tion is deducible from. Maitland and Pollock's
•* Hist, of English Law,' &c., ii. 608, &c. The
word is properly " thwert-ut-nay," which
means a downright " No," i.e., a defence to
the claim by a flat denial. The intricacies
of thirteenth -century pleading are involved,
but the meaning of it all seems to be this :
The plaintiff's claim must be met by a
" thwert-ut-nay " ; other defences may
follow, but this one is indispensable, and
want of it is fatal. Having made the denial,
the person sued could then demand an
examination of the plaintiff's " secta," or
suit of witnesses. If none were ready, the
claim failed, or should do so, on a protest by
the defendant that he need not answer the
simple assertion of the plaintiff, unsupported
by the offer of evidence.
Now the passage in the barons' charter
quoted above seems to mean simply that
where the sheriff was notjprepared then and
there to back up his case wi
either because he had none or ^^^re not
ready, the person charged or sued was allowed
to go free on his simple plea of " No " ( = " I
deny the whole thing"), subject to the
payment of some fee to the sheriff for his
" stuth," or maintenance. (Nothing to do
with " tooth " etymologically.)
It is easy to see the abuses to which the
sheriff's duty might lead when he got a fee
out of the case, even if without foundation,
or when a proper case was dismissed by
merely paying him a fee. But this evil
lasted in Cheshire until the time of
Edward III., when, by a charter of Sept. 10,
1346, the Prince of Wales (the Earl of
Chester), after reciting the clause in the
charter of the barons,
" yet because this custom is contrary to the
common law, is the origin of trouble, and de-
structive to peace, &c., ordained, with the consent
and at the request of the commonalty of Cheshire,
that the defence of ' thwertnie ' should not be
allowed in future " (Inspeximus, Charter Roll,
Nov. 14, 1389).
R. STEWART-BROWN.
HEAVITBEE, co. DEVON, 1553-1653. — A
MS. has come into my hands which is of
interest to Devonshire genealogists. On
the fly-leaf is written : —
" Heavitree. A Booke for Weddings, Christin-
ings and Buryalls written in the year of our Lord
God one thousand six hundred and fiftie and
three, for the p'ish of Heavitree, being truly
copied out of a booke of p'chment, belonging to
the said p'ish, beginning the first day of February
1565 and compared by " (blank).
The MS. contains only baptisms, from
1555 to 1653. It is written on paper in a
clear hand. There is also one wedding (by
an illiterate hand) dated 1681. The original
register is, I believe, lost.
J. HARVEY BLOOM.
"HANDWRITING" AS A SURNAME. — Com-
pilers of books on surnames may like to
know that Thomas Handwriting was the
name of a convict transported to New South
Whales on the John Barry in 1821. He
figures in a list of the convicts there as
taken at Dec. 31, 1837 (P.R.O., H.O. 10 : 33).
J. M. BULLOCH.
" PRO PELLE CUTEM." — The real meaning
of this old motto of the Hudson's Eay
Company has always been more or less a
matter of dispute. It seems to mean
" skin for skin," i.e., human skin for animal
skin, for the old hunters risked their own
skins to get the skin of the buffalo. I find
now that Canon Matheson of Winnipeg,
who knew many of the old hunters, puts an
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entirely different construction on it. He
considers that the pro belongs to the pelle,
from which it has been wrongly detached,
and that the correct reading is " Propelle
cutem." It would thus mean " speed (up
or to) the skin," i.e., hurry up after the
buffalo skins. In any case it was evidently
a Latin saying which was well understood
at the time, though the original meaning
may have been subsequently lost sight of.
J. FOSTER, PALMER.
WE must request correspondents desiring in-
formation on family matters of only private interest
to affix their names and addresses to their queries
in order that answers may be sent to them direct.'
RICHARD STOCKTON OF KIDDINGTON, 1600-
1657. — I shall be glad of any information
about the above. He was the founder of the
Stockton family of New Jersey, and is
.supposed to have been the son of John
Stockton of Kiddington or Cuddington (in
the parish of Malpas, hundred of Broxton,
Cheshire), eldest son of Owen of the same
place. The reason for supposing this to be
the case is that in the family Bible, under
the date of 1760, the statement is made that
the said Richard Stockton emigrated from
England previous to 1660, resided for a few
years in Long Island, near New York,
" belonged to an ancient and highly respect-
able family, and possessed an opulent
fortune." The same gentleman used the
arms of the Kiddington branch of the
Cheshire Stocktons, which were engraved on
a watch and family plate. He died 1707.
leaving among other children a son Richard
and a son John, showing that the family
names were perpetuated. The parish regis-
ter of Malpas and the wills in Chester and
at Somerset House have been carefully
searched ; but few records were made
during 1640-60, owing to the civil wars.
With John Stockton of Kiddington, who
died 1700, the male line in England appears
to have become extinct ; but it is possible
that he had a son or a nephew living in the
States. Richard Stockton, " the founder "
of the New Jersey family, also had an
' Uncle Thomas," a physician, living in
" Cole Harbor, London, 1661." The London
Stocktons used the ancient arms of Stockton,
nofc those used by the Kiddington or U.S.
branch. There is a will of Thomas Stockton
of London, 1622, but there is no reference
to Stockton relations living in Cheshire.
HELEN HAMILTON STOCKTON.
Morven, Princeton, New Jersey.
HAYWARD'S 'SURVEY OF WALDEN.' — A
copy of this book was in the possession of
John Wolfe, Esq., Walden, 1762, and was
afterwards owned by John Fiske, M.D. Is
anything further known of this work ? or
can any reader give information about it ?
CURATOR OF WALDEN MUSEUM.
FRENCH NATIONAL EMBLEM, THE COCK. —
Information invited as to the origin of the
French national emblem, the cock, and
details of any bibliography concerning it.
J. LANDFEAR LUCAS.
GEORGE WASHINGTON'S WEALTH. — I have
seen it suggested that George Washington,
at the time of the Declaration of Independ-
ence, was the richest man in America.
What authorities should one consult to
confirm this statement, or otherwise ?
J. LANDFEAR LUCAS,
Glendora, Hindhead, Surrey.
LATIN EPITAPH : " Si QUIS FORTE ROGAT.'*
— On a marble slab affixed to the north
wall of the chancel of St. Mary's parish
church, Holy Island, Northumberland, is
inscribed : —
Here lyeth the bodie of Ann Jones, sometyme-
wife to Henry Jones, Esquire, which Ann died the-
19 of Februarie, 1625.
In obitum delectissimae matris Ann Jones.
Si quis forte rogat cujus tenet ossa sepulcrum,
Ipse tacens docui marmora dura loqui,
Si quaeris proavos ; generoso sanguine ducta est*
Si vitam ; insignis regula justitise,
Si quseris mores ; mulier nee amantior sequi,.
Nee pietatis erat, nee probitatis erat,
Hsec pro te tristis subscripsit carmina natus ;
- Quse sunt officii signa suprema sui.
Per me Pet rum Jones.
The majority of persons reading the-
above inscription would infer that Peter
Jones composed this Latin epitaph, but it is
not so, for similar lines occur on a grave-
stone in memory of one Tamworth who>
died in 1569. Vide Maitland's 'London,,'
ii. 1076. Is any other copy known ?
Consett, co. Durham.
°P3
J. W. FAWCETT.
EDNA LYALL. — The full inscription orr
this lady's grave at Bosbury, near Ledbury^
desired. J. ARDAGH.
TURNER OF SHRIGLEY PARK, co. CHESTER.
— William Turner of Shrigley Park, co.
Chester, M.P. for Blackburn, had a daughter
who was married to Thomas Legh, LL.D., of
Lyme Park, co. Chester, on Jan. 14, 1829.
I se'ek genealogical details of the ancestry of
William Turner, and particularly the names
of his brothers and their descendants. I
believe one brother was named Robert-
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95
Emanuel Turner (born 1825), assistan
comptroller, cashier, and committee clerk
to the Manchester Corporation from 1842
to 1857, was, I understand, a nephew of
William, the member of Parliament. Was
he a son of Robert ?
Please reply direct.
JAMES SETON-ANDERSON.
18 Culverden Down, Tunbridge Wells.
RICHARD BURTON c. 1681. — Richard
Burton's " Historical Remarques and Ob-
servations of the Ancient and Present State
of London and Westminster .... London.
Printed for Nath. Crouch at the Bell next
to Kemps Coffee house in Exchange Alley,
over against the Royal Exchange in Corn-
hill. 1681." neat half -calf, 18mo, has a
number of very quaint cuts. I should be
glad of any information about the author.
ANETJRIN WILLIAMS.
Menai View, North Road, Carnarvon.
[" Richard Burton " was one of the pseudonyms
of Nathaniel Crouch who published the book.
He had a very busy pen, the ' Diet. Nat. Biog.' de-
voting nearly four columns to him, s.v, 'Barton,
Robert or Richard,' and recording 45 works com-
piled or edited by him. They were mostly issued
at a shilling each, and had a great popularity.]
GRIM OR GRIME : ETYMOLOGY OF THE
NAME. — There is a Grim's Dyke near
Salisbury, a Grimesditch in Cheshire ; the
Roman Wall of Antoninus in Scotland is
called Grime's Dyke ; and there is a wooded
hill near Huddersfield called Grimesca.
What is the significance of this name Grim
or Grime ? Is it Celtic ?
W. A. HIRST.
DEVEY FAMILY. — I shall be glad of
genealogical information regarding the
Deveys who held Kingslow, co. Salop, near
Wolverhampton, from 1640 to 1881, and the
Deveys who resided in the manor of Trysull,
co. Stafford, during the eighteenth century.
The former, and probably the latter, family
was descended from the Deveys of Patting-
ham, co. Stafford, temp. Edward II. ; and
as late as 1730 a John Devey, gent., who
graduated at Oxford in 1725, had an estate
there. Thomas and William Devey of
Trysull graduated in 1734 and 1764 respec-
tively. G. M. N.
GEORGE BORROW : LIEUT. PARRY. — Who
was Lieut. Parry, and for what offence was
he punished at the time of the Crimean War ?
Borrow has three separate references to the
topic in his ' Wild Wales,' in relation to his
Welsh tour July-November, 1854. In his
decisive style he writes of " poor Parry,
whose only crime was trying to defend
himself from the manual assaults of his
brutal messmates " ; and of Parry's punish-
ment as " a deed of infamous injustice and
cruelty." I find no allusion to the affair
in works where it might be expected to be
mentioned. W. B. H.
THE SWIN. — Kipling mentions this channel
in one of his poems,
From the Ducies to the Swin.
It is, I believe, to the north of the mouth
of the Thames. What is the meaning of
the name '' Saxo-Grammaticus mentions a
similarly named stretch of water as Zwina
(p. 333), Zuins (p. 347), Suin (p. 359), identi-
fied as the Zwein, the middle channel of the
Oder as it reaches the sea. And where is
the Ducies ?
J. HAMBLEY ROWE, M.B.
[Bartholomew's ' Gazetteer of the British Isles '
describes the Swin Channel thus : "in mouth of
river Thames, between the Maplin and Barrow
Sands ; is the main channel from the Nore to the
north."]
BOASE BROTHERS. — I should be glad if
some reader of ' N. & Q.' could furnish me
with portraits of one or all of those dis-
tinguished brothers, the Rev. Charles
William, George Clement, and Frederic
Boase. Or some one may be able to indicate
a periodical in which their portraits have
appeared. J. HAMBLEY ROWE, M.B.
[MR. RALPH THOMAS, who knew the brothers
well (see ante, p. 88), informs us that he does not
remember to have seen any portrait of them.]
QUEEN ANNE : THE SOVEREIGN'S VETO. —
I have often read in books on constitu-
tional history that Queen Anne was the last
sovereign to veto a Bill passed by Lords and
Commons, but have never lighted on any
particulars of this. Justin McCarthy in
lis volume on Queen Anne says nothing of
t ; Mr. Herbert Paul has but a passing
reference. Can any reader enlighten me ?
W. KENT.
HERVEY OR HERVIT. — In the Index to the
printed Calendar of Inquisitions post mortem
n the reign of Henry III. occurs the name
of William Hervit alias Hervey. The date
of the inquisition is January, 1256. About
forty years ago, as I came out from a political
meeting, I heard a man in an excited crowd
sing out, " Let Bill Harvet have one."
" One " meant an egg not laid that morning,
and " Bill Harvet " meant a Mr. William
Harvey who was at the meeting, and there-
fore deserved an egg not laid that morning.
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As we can see the form Hervit or Hervet six
hundred years ago, and can hear it to-day, I
presume that it has had a continuous
existence from the one date to the other. I
presume also that it is a corrupted form of
Hervey. Can any philological reason be
given why Hervet should be a corrupted
form of Hervey ? Or what is the unwritten
law that ha^5 governed the change ? Hervey
was a fairly common personal name in
England for about two hundred years after
the Norman Conquest which brought it in,
but within three hundred years it seems to
have died out as a personal name and
become a rather common surname.
S. H. A. H.
SIR WALTER RALEIGH AND QUEEN ELIZA-
BETH AT SANDGATE. — In Paine's ' Guide to
Hythe, Kent ' (1862), p. 29, we read : —
" In her progress through Kent, Queen Eliza-
beth paid a visit to Saltwood Castle, riding from
Sandgate on a pillion behind no less a person than
Sir Walter Raleigh. With him the virgin queen
danced a saraband (whatever that was) on the
castle-green, and no doubt was entertained right
royally in the castle itself."
On the next page occurs the following in
support of the statement : —
" Among the old records relating to this period
we find charged in the town accounts 2s. for straw
and ' clene rushes ' for the Queen's dining-room,
and a further charge of Wd. for the shoeing of
Sir Walter Raleigh's horses."
Can any one supply further information
about this visit ? The probable date would
be August, 1573, as it is stated in Sussex
Arch. Collections, v. 191, that "on the
morning of Tuesday the 25th [August] she
fthe Queen] left this house [Westenh anger],
dined at Sandgate, and was at Dover to
supper." R. J. FYNMOBE.
Sandgate.
FIFTEENTH-CENTURY SEAL. — There is a
fifteenth-century seal at the British Museum
which represents the Trinity with St. John
the Baptist and lamb, and St. John the
Evangelist with eagle. The mutilated legend
reads : —
SIGILLVM .... BTTRGEN .... US DE HENLE YE.
Is this likely to refer to the township of
Henley -in-A^den in Warwickshire ? This
township is under the patronage of St. John.
If the seal refers to Henley -in- Arden, then
from the mention of burgesses it would
appear that Henley-in-Arden was an ancient
borough. Is this so ?
As I hold the manorial rights of Henley-
in-Arden I shall greatly appreciate a reply.
W. J. FlELDHOUSE.
Austy Manor, WoottonWawen, Warwickshire.
ALDELIMA, 1280 : ITS LOCALITY.- — On
Aug. 5, 1280, John, Prior of Wenlock (in
Shropshire), granted to John, Archbishop of
Canterbury, the patronage of the church of
Aldelima, in the diocese of Coventry and
Lichfield, which the Convent of Wenlock
had of the gift of Hugh, lord of Aldelima.
The witnesses inchide Master Thomas de
Yngelthorp, Dean of St. Paul's, London ;
Master William de la Cornere, Canon of
Lichfield ; Sir Nicholas de Knovile ; Master
Alan de Lyndesey ; Sir Goscelyn, Justice of
Chester, Sir Bogo de Knovile, Sir Odo de
Hodenet, Sir William Bagod, and Sir Roger
Sprenchose (the last five were knights) ;
John de Esthope, and John de Ayno, clerk.
This is one of many valuable charters, in
the Free Public Library of Shrewsbury,
which I am calendaring. What place
represents Aldelima ? And in what county
is it situate ?
W. G. D. FLETCHER, F.S.A.
Oxon Vicarage, Shrewsbury.
CORNISH AND DEVONIAN PRIESTS EXE-
CUTED IN 1548 AND 1549. — What was the
name of the West -Country priest who was
drawn, hanged, and quartered at Smith-
field on July 7, 1548 ?
What were the respective benefices of the
following eight priests of Cornwall or Devon-
shire, who suffered for complicity in the
rebellions of 1548-9, arid when and where
were they executed ? Robert Bocham, John
Thompson, Roger Barret, John Wolcocke,
William Alsa, James Mourton, John Barrow,
Richard Benet.
JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.
LOWTHER. — I am desirous of obtain-
ing information concerning the following
Lowthers, who were educated at West-
minster School : —
1. James Harrington, admitted in 1837,
aged 10.
2. John, admitted in 1727, aged 13.
3. T. Lowther, who was at the School in
1808.
4. William, admitted in 1727, aged 11.
5. William, admitted in 1851, aged 10.
G. F. R. B.
MACKWORTH. — I should be glad to obtain
information about the following Mackworths
who were educated at Westminster School : —
1. Francis, admitted in 1736, aged 10.
2. John, admitted in 1727, aged 10.
3. T. Mackworth, who was at the School
in 1803.
4. William, admitted in 1737, aged 10.
G. F. R. B.
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CARTWRICHT FAMILY : LABRADOR AND
NEWFOUNDLAND. — I should much like to
get information about the following members
of this very interesting family, who had
much to do with Labrador and Newfound-
land : Major George Cartwright, his brother
John, R.N., and Miss Cartwright, who wrote
the Life of the major, 1826. The major's
journal was published in 1792.
DAVID Ross McCoRD.
McCord National Museum,
Temple Grove, Montreal.
GILT WAND. — Can any reader throw light
on the probable history of a wand which
may be described as follows ? — A wooden
roller about 3 ft. long, with a diameter of
1 inch ; about 3| in. of black paint at each
end, the remainder gilt ; bears the arms of
the Earl Marshal, under which is the figure 8.
It is believed to have been carried in the
Coronation procession of Queen Victoria.
M.
PARKINSON FAMILY. — I should be glad to
know how John Parkinson the botanist, born
1567, was connected with the Parkinsons,
settled at an early date at Gunness (see
Kirton Court Rolls), and afterwards at
Scunthorpe, 1595.
John Parkinson of Asgarby inherited the
old family property at Gunness, which he
sold about 1775. J. HEALD WARD.
Exmouth.
" THE DERBY BLUES."— Can any one give
any particulars of this corps, which is said to
have been raised (presumably as a volunteer
troop of horse) in 1745, and disbanded the
next year
W. R. W.
PRINCE CHARLES EDWARD STUART.—
Could any fellow-beneficiary of ' N. & Q.'
name the author of an eighteen-stanza poem
on Prince Charles Edward Stuart, apparently
written in 1746, and beginning,
Awhile forget the scene of war ?
It figures anonymously in Macquoid's
' Jacobite Songs,' 1887, pp. 250-52.
L. I. GUINEY.
Araberley, Glos.
WADDINGHAM FAMILY OF YORKSHIRE. —
I am seeking data pertaining to the family
of Waddingham, near Beverley, in the East
Riding of Yorkshire, since the year 1800,
and may extend my studies to an earlier
period. To that- family belonged my late
mother-in-law, Mrs. John Denton, whose
maiden name was Elizabeth Waddingham
She was born at Hotham, in Yorkshire, in j instantly killed."
1835, and died in Chicago in 1900. See my
Denton Family Notes ' in Yorkshire Notes
and Queries (Bradford) for August, 1908.
Did the family of WadAingham have its
origin in Yorkshire or in Lincolnshire ? In
Burke' s ' Landed Gentry,' twelfth edition
;i914), p. 1920, is a pedigree of Waddingham
of Guyting Grange, co. Gloucester, which
traces from Thomas Waddingham of South
Ferriby, Lincolnshire (fl. 1799). It may be
of some significance that South Ferriby is
in the northern extremity of Lincolnshire,
and therefore close to the south bank of the
Humber. This close proximity to the East
Riding of Yorkshire may be a useful clue to
follow.
The General Index to the Sixth Series of
' N. & Q.' gives a reference (i. 96) regarding
two churches in Wadingham, Lincolnshire.
Is it safe to infer that the village last
mentioned gave its name to the family or
families to which this present query relates ?
I should be grateful for any information
pertaining to the family of Waddingham in
Yorkshire, and particularly for the names
and addresses of any living members or
descendants thereof.
EUGENE F. McPiKE.
4450 Woodlawn Avenue, Chicago, 111.
BROOKE ROBINSON OF DUDLEY. — Can.
any one tell me where I can obtain a
genealogical book by Brooke Robinson of
Dudley containing the ancestry of himself,
and six branches of his family ? He had
30 copies printed, and gave away 19 to
relatives ; the remaining 11 found their way
(I am told by the publishers, Messrs. Nichols
& Sons) to public libraries.
(Mrs.) S. BENNITT.
Clent House, Harborne, near Birmingham.
" ROUGH " AS HOUSE-NAME.— I have
lately noticed the use of the word " Rough '
as part of the name of houses in Surrey m
the neighbourhood of Guildford and Hasle-
mere. Two such names are Piccard's Rough,
near Guildford, and High Rough, near
Haslemere. Can this local usage be ex-
plained ?
At 11 S. viii. 444, in one of MR. PAGES
articles on ' Statues arid Memorials in Great
Britain,1 the following reference to the
word occurs : —
"On 19 July, 1873, Dr. Samuel Wilberforce,
Bishop of Winchester, and the late Earl Gramalle
were out riding together, and had reached a lonely
spot known as Evershed's Rough, about four mile
from Dorking, on the road 10 Guildford. In
Bishop's horse stumbled, he was thrown heavily
to the ground, and, falling on his head, was
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Probably the word here fittingly describes
the tract of country in which the accident
happened, but I believe that in each of the
cases I have cittfd above the word forms
part of the address of a house. It would
seem, therefore, as if the two houses owe
their names to the character of the surround-
ing country. J. R. H.
WILLIAM NICHOLSON OF DUBLIN. — Wm.
Nicholson, gentleman (wife's name Mary
Anne - — ), resided on Pembroke Quay,
Dublin, in 1861. His will was dated
March 26, 1861. Particulars'^ his parent-
age, with date and place of "his birth and
marriage, desired. E/C. FINLAY.
PROCTOR FAMILY or DUBLIN. — Nathaniel
Proctor of Dublin married Anne Jane Paine
in 1821, and had issue Anne Jane and
Richard Nathaniel ; the latter married
Dorothy Lamb. I shall be grateful for
further particulars. E. C. FINLAY.
1634 Hyde Street, San Francisco, California.
FAMILY OF BROWN'S BAY.—
I should be grateful to any correspondent
who could kindly give me information con-
cerning the family of Brown of Brown's Bay,
Island Magee, near Larne. Some monu-
ments with their arms yet exist there. In
1690 the daughters of that house were
famous for beauty, and in earlier times one
of them was a witch known and dreaded as
Fairy Brown. Y. T.
ALABACTJLTA, NAME OF A RACEHORSE.- •
In 1776 a filly of Lord Rockingham's, sub-
sequently named Alabaculia, won the race
which two years later was called the Don-
caster St. Leger. Can any one explain the
origin of this name, or afford any informa-
tion ? I believe that G. A. Sala once
investigated it, but do not know with what
result. C. M. PRIOR.
Adstock Manor, Winslow, Bucks.
" WILDERING " : " WILDING." — Keble, in
his * Christian Year,' uses thce former of these
words thus ( ' Fifth Sunday in Lent ' ) : —
!Ye, too, who tend Christ's wildering flock,
in the sense of " scattered." For this he was
taken to task by a Church dignitary, but
defended it by a reference to Ezekiel xxxiv. 12
and a passage from the Ordination Service.
But later he capitulated : —
^ With respect to the word, I find that according
to^Johnson there is or was such a word as
* wildering ' or ' to wilder ' — only, unluckily for
me, it is a verb active — the same as to ' bewilder.'
So it must be considered an error, and ' wandering '
or some such word must be substituted for it. I
find it, unluckily, in the Oxford ' Psalter' also."
On this his biographer observes : —
" In spite of this concluding sentence it will be
found, I believe, that the word. ' wildering '
remained in all the editions published in his life-
time, and the line remains unaltered still " (1868).
Has it been altered in any subsequent
editions ?
The second word occurs in Crockett's
' Bog-Myrtle and Peat ' (p. 381) in a poem
heading his story * The Biography of an
" Inefficient " ' : —
In the well-known precincts, lo the wilding
treasure.
Have the two words any kinship in mean-
ing ? Is the second a variant of the first ?
J. B. McGovERN.
St. Stephen's Rectory, C.-on-M., Manchester.
CLIFTON FAMILY OF CLIFTON, NOTTS. —
Can any one inform me of the names,
and dates of birth and death, of t.he two
daughters and oo-heiresses of George Clifton,
who was the fifth son of Sir Gervase Clifton,
of Clifton, co. Notts, Baronet, who married
Anne, only daughter and heiress to Robert
Sacheverell of Barton ? Whom did the
daughters marry ?
REGI SEMPER FIDELIS.
MISSEL THRUSH AND MISTLETOE SEEDS. —
I once saw a Latin verse quotation in which
it was stated that the missel thrush, by
sowing mistletoe seeds, sowed the means of
its own death, i.e., by birdlime. I shall be
grateful to any one who will send me this
quotation. GEORGE SAMPSON.
BIRD -SCARING SONGS. — Can any reader
send me words or tunes of songs sung in
old days by the children engaged "in bird-
scaring ? GEORGE SAMPSON.
Ramsdell Vicarage, Basingstoke.
" DRINK BY WORD OF MOUTH." — This was
a saying well known in Essex fifty years
ago. Is there any classical or other autho-
rity for its use ? Is it known elsewhere ?
J. J.
ODESSA IN ROMAN TIMES. — Is it possible
to say whether the site of Odessa was inside
or outside the boundary of the Roman
Empire ? It seems clear that it was very
near to the boundary, one side or the other.
LAMPSO.
AUTHOR OF QUOTATION WANTED :—
If of dull wits this stripling you suspect,
Make him a Herald or an architect.
XYLOGRAPHER.
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STAGS AND EGLANTINE :
ELIZABETHAN COURT STORY.
(12 S. v. 13.)
OLD EAST ANGLIAN' s suggestion as to the
origin, of the honeysuckle borne in the
mouth of the crest of the Sucklings (a stag
current) becomes very interesting in view
of a recent paper contributed to Norfolk
Archaeology by Mr. F. R. Beecheno on
* The Suckling House at Norwich.' The
latter was the town residence of the Robert
Suckling upon whom Queen Elizabeth is
said to have conferred, as " an augmenta-
tion to his arms, the honeysuckle as a rebus
on his name — Suckling, colloquially the
honeysuckle or eglantine."
In the paper in question is a quotation
from Kirkpatrick's* MS. collection for a
history of Norwich, describing this house
&,s he saw it, thus : —
" On the great stone gate of ye flint stone house
against the east end of St. Andrew's Churchyard,
on the one side of ye. arch Suckling's arms, on the
other side ye merchant Adventurers' arms.
An0 Dni. being the year whsn Robert Suckling
was Sheriff."
It will, however, be observed that further
on in his paper Mr. Beecheno remarks that
" the arms were granted to Robert Suckling
on the 24th of August, 1578 " ; and when
asked his authority for that date, he replied,
*' Burke's ' Armory.' '
There the matter rested, as one of little
moment, until the appearance of ' Stags
:and Eglantine ' in ' N. & Q.' when, the dates
assuming additional importance, the matter
was referred to a well-known authority on
heraldry, who said : —
" I suspect that the arms of Suckling were
confirmed and the crest was granted in 1578.
Crests as a rule are much later than arms, and
hence a grant for the crest in which the old arms
were comprised, and hence, at times, there is
some confusion. The ' Armory,' though of
course a most useful book, is not an official
publication, and therefore, to answer the question
as to the grant, I think it would be well to apply
to the Heralds' College."
This was accordingly done, with the result
that official copies were made of four dockets,
and it is interesting to observe that the
tradition as to the "augmentation" gains
* John Kirkpatrick died August, 1728, aged 42. i
credence from the fact that Robert Cooke,
Clarenceux, was " at Norwich " in August,
1578, during Queen Elizabeth's visit to that
city.
The copies from the College of Arms
read : —
" Camden's Grants, vol. i. folio 29 : ' Per
Bobert Cooke, Clar., at Norwich 13 August,
1578. Arms and" crest as in E.D.N. 56,
p. 86b.' "
" Camden's Grants, vol. iii. folio 24b : ' Suck-
lings, per pale gules and azure three roe bucks or.
Crest, a buck current, holding a honeysuckle in
his mouth, proper. Blazon only. No trick of
arms or crest.' "
Moreover, the above arms, with the
crest surmounting an esquire's helmet, and
the date " An0 1584," were placed in the
windows* of his manor houee at Woodton
by Robert Suckling himself, with the addi-
tion of a similar coat of arms, but without
the crest, impaling the arms of his wife,
Cardinall of Essex.
Robert Suckling died in the house in
St. Andrew's parish in November, 1589, and
was buried in the church opposite, where his
younger son John erected in 1611 a memorial
to him, with his effigy kneeling, facing that
of his wife, under a canopy which is sur-
mounted by a shield-shaped plaque en-
tirely covered by trails of honeysuckle. The
latter serves as a background for the coat of
arms, on which are the esquire's helmet,
wreath, and the roebuck crest ; but the
latter is distinctly azure — a remarkable fact
in view of the following passage in Suck-
lings ' Antique and Armorial Collection,'
preserved in the British Museum, t which,
under "Woodton, Norfolk," says: —
" The Sucklings orginally had for crest a
roebuck current azure, mantled gules, and in
1617, for what cause I know not, the celebrated
Camden, ' upon mature advice,' altered the crest
to a roebuck current or, holding in his mouth a
honeysuckle proper. The document is signed
' William Camden.' "
It then becomes a question if this state-
ment as to a change of tincture has any
relation to a third " grant " by Camden
(vol. ii. folio 49b), dated "26 November,
1617 ": " Charles Suckling of Woodton,
Com. Norf., Esquire. The crest. "
The arms here are tricked, and the crest
shows the stag to be almost springing
upwards, with " or " written at the side of
his head, and "ppr." against the huge
* These two old windows of arm'orial glass
were removed many years since to Barsham
(Suffolk), where they may still be seen at the
Recto rv.
t Add. MSS. 18,476 to 18,491, 15 vols.by the
author of the ' Antiquities of Suffolk.'
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bouquet of honeysuckle which he bears in
his mouth, the whole being very sug-
gestive of the Elizabethan " stagge exalt-
ing to the divine." Moreover, Sir John
Suckling (born 1569, died 1627), who was
knighted in 1617, was at that time a person
greatly in favour at Court, where King
James I. made him Comptroller of his
Household, Secretary of State, and a Privy
Councillor ; and he had married the sister
of Lionel Cranfield, Earl of Middlesex (Lord
Treasurer), by whom he was father of the
poet. The latter (b. 1608, d. 1641, and
also knighted) is said by his biographers to
have " derived his wit and vivacity from
his mother"; but, however that may be,
the older knight had certainly some claim
to literary aspirations, and he has left
some not insignificant verses prefixed to
' Coryat's Crudities,' published in 1611 : —
Incipit Johannes Sutclin.
Whether I thee should either praise or pitty ....
He was also, no doubt, the author of the
English inscription to his wife upon the
sumptuous tomb which he placed above her
remains in St. Andrew's Church in 1613,
in which she is addressed as
Mirror of time, bright starre of pietie,
Barest of witts cannot give thee thy due,
Thou \vert so good, so chaste, so wise, so true.
The various devices and emblems upon
this monument, to say nothing of the
sentences in Latin, Spanish, and Norman
French, are quite out of the common,
and give rise to speculation as to whether
the taste that conceived them was an
inheritance from his father, Robert Suck-
ling, who (possibly) originated the idea of
the dangerous delays of the motto, or
the latter was an addition of Sir John's
in 1617. One needs, in fact, to be an
accomplished herald to understand the
reason of this docket, and also of a
fourth : —
"E.D.N. 56, folio 86. Sir John Suckling, Cap-
tane of a troop of horse, 1640."
In all probability this related to the poet's
raising and equipping a troop of horse for
King Charles I. at his sole expense — an
effort of patriotism which cost him his
fortune.
The arms and crest are also tricked in
this fourth docket, and show that the
"current" stag had come down from his
upward leap by that time, although he still
carries an abnormally large posy for his
*' offering " of " redolent eglantine." .
SAMUEL FISKE.
There is an instructive illustrated article-
on this subject, by Llewellynn Jewittr
F.S.A., in The Reliquary for July, 1882, and
lengthy references to it will be found in
A. T. Turner's ' Hardwycke Annals,' J. W.
Hardwicke- Jones's ' Hardwicke of Hard-
wicke and Burcott ' and ' Notes ' on the
ame work, and ' Hardwicke of co. Stafford '
(two vols. and two appendixes) ; but all are
very vague as to the origin of the eglantine
roses on the Hardwicke crest. Neither do
we derive much light from the Rev. F.
Brodhurst's richly illustrated ' Notes OIL
Hardwick Hall,' or his * Elizabeth Hard-
wycke, Countess of Shrewsbury,' which
first appeared in the Derbyshire Archaeo-
logical Society's journal in 1908 ; nor from
Leighton Pryce's * Hardwicke of Patting-
ham and Worfield ' in The Reliquary for
April, 1885, nor from ' Hardwicke of Derby-
shire,' by a " Scion of the House " (2nd ed.
and appendix). A slight illumination,,
however, is thrown on the subject by
pp. 48 B, 49, and 49 B of the Hardwicke
MS. no. 37447 in the Additional MSS. Depart-
ment of the British Museum Library.
We gather from these writers that the
stag courant was the crest borne by Sir
William de Hardwycke when in 1431 he
espoused Elizabeth, Lady Wingfield, elder
twin daughter of Sir Robert Goushill and
his wife Lady Elizabeth FitzAlan, Duchess
of Norfolk ; but it does not appear certain
that at that time the stag's neck was
adorned with roses. Sir William's son
Roger took an active and prominent part,
with the latter 's cousin Lord Stanley, in
the organization of the revolt against
Richard III., which resulted in the battle
of Bosworth in 1485, when Roger's kinsman
John de Hardwycke, lord of Lindley near
Bosworth, led the Earl of Richmond to-
victory, as described in William Burton's
' History of Leicestershire ' in 1622, and on
pp. 65, 67, and 73 of 'The Battle of Bos-
worth Field,' by W. Button, F.A.S.S., in
1788. The Wars of the Roses were thus
happily brought to an end, and it is possible
that the " Stagges of Hardwycke," as the
lords of Hardwycke were called on account
of their crest, being proud of the share
taken by their house, and profoundly
relieved by the event, then adopted the
chaplet of roses, the idea being that the
hart's neck offered the sweet smell of
eglantine as incense to Divinity in gratitude
for the victory which united the white and
red roses ; for it should be borne in mind
that the " Stagges " were Yorkists, as also*
were their cousins the Duke of Norfolk
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(Richard's general) and Berkeley, Earl of
Nottingham, while their cousin Lord Stanley
was Richmond's stepfather ; and the four
•cousins were, moreover, intimately con-
nected with the ill-fated widow of Edward IV.
•Queen Elizabeth Woodville, whose first
husband, the Lancastrian Sir John Grey,
Lord Ferrers of Groby, was also cousin to
Roger de Hardwycke, Norfolk, Nottingham,
•and Stanley, and who herself was once
betrothed to Roger's nephew Jocelyn de
Hardwycke. Of course, if it were shown
that the chaplet of eglantine roses formed
part of the crest before 1485 this theory
would fail, and in any case it is only a
hypothesis. PBIMA FACIE.
HENRY I.:
A GLOUCESTER CHARTER.
(12 S. iv. 149, 223, 279; v. 16, 72.)
WE have now to consider the probable date
of Henry I.'s notification of his confirmation
of (1) Roger de Gloucester's gift of Coin
Rogers, and (2) Henry's own gift of Ablode
and Paygrave to the monks of Gloucester,
addressed to Sampson, Bishop of Worcester,
and Walter de Gloucester, Sheriff of
Gloucester.
It is important to remember that here
we have notified as MR. G. H. WHITE points
out (ante, p. 73), a double confirmation of
two transactions, apparently quite distinct
the one from the other. I will call them
for brevity's sake the Coin notification
and the Ablode notification. The original
grants are lost ; so also is the original of
this combined notification. A copy of the
Ablode and Paygrave grant, however, as
MB. WHITE tells us, exists in the Gloucester
-Cartulary.
Of this double-barrelled instrument of
confirmation there exist three versions : —
(1) That in the Gloucester Cartulary
without witnesses.-
(2) That in the interpolated part of a
single copy of William of Malmesbury's
* Gesta,' with three witnesses.
(3) That said by MB. BADDELEY to be
also in the Cambridge MS. with eight
entirely different witnesses.
As to the date, at 12 S. iv. 149, 279,
I advanced cogent argument for the view
that this double notification synchronized
with charter no. 3 in Round's ' Ancient
•Charters,' which that master shows to have
passed as early as, but not earlier than,
June, 1109 (9 Hen. I.).
It is curious, as MB. G. H. WHITE points
out, that this date finds some corroboration
in the Gloucester Cartulary, where the copy
of Henry's grant of Ablode and Paygrave
in exchange for the monks' garden is
expressly stated to have passed " anno
regni Regis Henrici ejusdem nono " (see
ante, p. 18). Henry I. returned from
Normandy early in 1109, and it may well
be that the double notification, as above,
may have passed in the regnal year 9 Hen. I.
(Aug., 1109- Aug., 1110). I am far, how-
ever, from asserting that it did, because &n
entry in the Gloucester Cartulary (i. 69)
and the interpolation in William of Malmes-
bury both intimate that the King issued
his double notification on the field of battle
before Falaise, in the presence of the wounded
knight, in 1105. The new element is this —
that the interpolator furnishes witnesses
to this double notification, three in number,
all of them Gloucestershire tenants, includ-
ing Roger de Gloucester himself. Now that
Roger died before Falaise I still think pro-
bable, for the evidence, though not con-
clusive, is very strong. Thus William of
Malmesbury says, speaking of the King :
" Multos ex carissimis amisit inter quos
Rogerium de Glocestra probatum militeni
in obsessione Falesii arcubalistse jactu in
capite percussum." Orderic, MB. WTHITE
informs me, is still more explicit, and states
that Roger was slain. At the same time a
leader always returns his " wounded " as
well as his killed as " lost," and many a
man reported as killed in action survives
his wounds. My doubt is this : Did Roger
de Gloucester survive to witness the King's
double notification in Gloucestershire ?
Consider —
(1) Why should the dying knight have
been harassed in 1105 over the Ablode
notification, which had no possible con-
nexion with his gift of Coin ?
(2) Why have we the Gloucester Cartu-
lary and the interpolator both testifying
that he was merely " graviter vulneratus " ?
Had his headpiece saved him ? At any
rjite, he was able to recognize his King, to
give him the kiss of homage, and to en-
sanguine the royal hand with gore (Stubbs's
' William of Malmesbury,' p. 521).
(3) How is it that we have Roger de
Gloucester and two other Gloucestershire
men, and only Gloucestershire men, attesting
the double notification at all ? That these
men may have tested Roger's lost original
gift I could well believe. For instance,
Hugh Parvus was probably of the knight's
retinue.
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NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 B. v. APK.L, 1919.
But there is1 the third version of this
double notification to be considered — dig-
nified as the " Confirmatio." It is word
for word the same as the rest. To this
version is appended an array of eight new
witnesses, most of them of the highest
possible rank, with the King and the Queen
to lead them. If the attestation clause is
not a forgery, then MB. WHITE and MR.
BADDELEY are right, and the elusive date
.cannot be later than November, 1106
(ante, p. 18). I hold it to be suspect for
t,vo reasons : —
(1) There could have been no real necessity
for two separate twofold confirmations of
the same grants by the same king, with two
separate lists of witnesses, issued within
a year or so of each other.
(2) This version could not have been
known at Gloucester, or else the twelfth-
century interpolator would surely never
have been so blind to the interests of his
own house as to forgo so splendid a chance
of parading that brilliant company at the
foot of his own version of the King's double
notification.
After all, in dealing with chroniclers and
monkish cartularies we are largely dealing
with shadows. Here the one solid fact
before us is " a Gloucester charter " which
I had the honour of publishing in * N. & Q.,'
and which in all probability passed at
Easter, 1123.
In taking leave of this interesting inquiry,
which has been illumined by MB. G. H.
WHITE'S scholarship and clearness of vision,
and MB. BADDELEY'S " Confirmatio," I may
add that there is one point which calls for
a word.
MB. BADDELEY (ante, pp. 16, 17) wants
to know " why the modern spelling of
Mynors should be adopted for magnates
who never so wrote their name." NTow
the " y " as a variant of " i " is quite
innocent, though later fashion has frowned
on the dot. On the other hand, " o "
stands self-condemned, and MB. ST. CLAIB
BADDELEY is right — those old magnates,
who wielded sword and lance to some
purpose, assuredly never did so write their
names.
CHARLES SWYNNEBTON, F.S.A.
Stanley St. Leonards Vicarage, Glos.
The sole difference between MB. SWYN-
NEBTON and myself as the result of our
independent discoveries of the Coin charter
in, I find, 1915, is that he sent it to ' N. & Q.,'
while I communicated its presence, purport,
and witnesses to my friend Dr. Round,
drawing the attention of the latter to the
omission of the witnesses in the version
of the charter published by W. H. Hart
(vol. i. p. 236, no. cxliii) from the Gloucester
Cartularium. Probably Hart never saw
the original charter. When, therefore, yet
another transcript (i.e., the Cambridge MS.
of William of Malmesbury previously ad-
duced) of the same charter — correctly giving
all the witnesses in their proper precedences,,
and not misspelling the most important
personal name "William" for " Gilbert "-
came to my knowledge, I considered it the
more perfect of the two transcripts. In
addition, the monkish writer had added
(probably, not a guess at alf) the date and
the place of this rather memorable charter.
This explains the phrase used by me " the
more perfect duplicate " ; for, naturally r
that could not refer to the original, but de-
scribed only the monastic transcript. That
it was justified will presently appear fully.
But that does not suit MB. SWYNNERTON
at all ; for the reason that he is spellbound
by the famous Easter assembly of April 15,
1123, when Geoffrey, the new Chancellor,
first appears. He therefore suggests that
MCXXVII. is a possible blunder for MCXXIII.
Why not add " Wintoniam," a possible
blunder for " Westmonasterium " ? Yet he
finally thinks it possible that 1127 may be
correct. But, if that be so, it makes the
despised Cambridge ('Gesta') transcript
as correct in the date as it proves to be in
text.
Let us compare, therefore, the two-
monkish versions of the charter : —
Cambridge ' Gesta ' Hart's (Cartularium)
version. version.
Rex Anglorum. Bex Anglie.
Gilebertus de Mineriis. Willelmus de Miners.
Bogerius de Gloecestra. Bogerus de Gloucestria.
Monachos. Monachis.
Unde. Inde.
The original charter differs from both in
spelling Culna " Chulna," and " Gislebertus,"
" Portd," while it spells " Gloecestr'," as
does the Cambridge version. On the whole,
therefore, the " despised " latter version
possesses several points to the good over the
Cartularium one ; and I should have thought
that MB. SWYNNEBTON would be the first
to welcome the additional evidence which it
affords on a very interesting subject, which
he has been the first to publish. " Dux "
for " Rex " in the " Confirmatio " (ante, p. 17,
col. 1) was an oversight in my proof-reading.
In conclusion, I may add that the sugges-
tion of the date (approximate) and place,
Lisieux (ante, p. 74, col. 2), is thus not
12 S. V. APRIL, 1919.J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
103
subject to the real date of the siege of
Falaise, which MB. G. H. WHITE (I note)
does not regard as any longer sub judice,
but places it A.D. 1105, with M. Le Prevost
(ante, p. 73, col. 2). This may make it
easier to account for the presence (pre-
sumably in France) of the Abbot of Winch-
combe and Hugh Little (parvus). The
latter two, I may mention, were likewise
witnesses, with Roger de Gloucester, to a
gift by Walter, the Sheriff, of the church of
St. Helen (at Alveston, Glos.) with a virgate
of land to St. Peter's, Gloucester. Hugh's
hon Roger presently married no less a per-
sonage than Margery, daughter of John de
Sudeley and Grace de Traci.
ST. CLAIB BADDELEY.
[We have in hand MR. BADDELEY'S article on the
De Miners family, but cannot insert anything more
about the charter.]
SAMUEL JOHNSON AND BEN JONSON
(12 S. v. 38).— 1. The Doctor's saying is
recorded in Boswell's ' Life,' vol. iv.,
Birkbeck Hill's edition, p. 320, under the
year 1784 : —
" He seemed to take a pleasure in speaking in
his own style ; for when he had carelessly missed
it, he would repeat the thought translated into it.
Talking of the Comedy of ' The Rehearsal,' he
said, ' It has not wit enough to keep it sweet.'
This was easy ; he therefore caught himself, and
pronounced a more round sentence : ' It has not
vitality enough to preserve it from putrefaction.' "
2. As for Carlyle's reference to Ben Jonson
in ' Past and Present,' there are two places,
if not more, where he compares the soul to
salt that keeps the body from putrefaction : —
" Talk of him to have a soul ! 'heart, if he have
any more than a thing given him instead of salt,
only to keep him from stinking, I'll be hang'd
afore my time, presently." — ' Bartholomew
Fair,' IV. i.
That you are the wife
To so much blasted flesh, as scarce hath soul,
Instead of salt, to keep it sweet ; I think,
Will ask no witnesses to prove.
' The Devil is an Ass,' I. iii.
I supplied these two references at 11 S.
x. 255, in answer to a similar query.
The same thought is presented in a sermon
of Bishop Sanderson : —
" Which course if it were taken, what would
become of many thousands in the world, quibus
anima pro sale ? who like swine live in such sensual
and unprofitable sort, as we might well doubt
whether they had any living souls in their bodies
at all or no, were it not barely for this one argu-
ment, that their bodies are a degree sweeter than
carrion."—' Ad Populum,' Sermon IV., § 15.
The proverbial phrase can be traced to a
classical source. Bishop Jacobson in his j
learned edition of Sanderson's Works,,
vol. iii. p. 103, quotes a passage from the
' Adagia ' of Hadrianus Junius (Adriaan de
Jonghe), who refers to Varro's * De Re
Rustica,' ii. 4, 10, where we are told of a
saying about pigs, that they have a soul
given them just like salt, to keep their flesh
sweet ; to Pliny's ' Natural History,' viii. 51
(77), 207, where a similar saying is men-
tioned ; to Cicero, ' De Finibus,' v. 13, 38,.
where a pig is said to have had a soul given
it " pro sale, ne putisceret " ; and to Clement
of Alexandria, ' Stromata,' vii. p. 516 A in the
Ley den ed. of 1616. Clement attributes the
saying av0' aAwv avrovs (sc. rov<s vs) cj(€tv
TYJV \fa>x4v> ^a M wKri TO, Kpea, to Cleanthes.
Cicero in ' De Natura Deorum,' ii. 64, 160,
fathers it on Chrysippus. Finally Plutarch
in his ' Qusestiones Convivales,' v. 685c,
ascribes the comparison to " some of the
Stoics," which may well include Chrysippus
and his master, Cleanthes. Perhaps philo-
sophers have been unfair to the pig.
It may be added that in " salillum animse "
( = the soul's salt-cellar), Plautus, * Tiinum-
mus,' 492 (where, however, the true reading,
is uncertain), some have seen a reference to-
this same notion. EDWARD BENSLY.
University College, Aberystwyth.
[ DIEGO and MB. C. R. MOORE also thanked for
replies.]
LA COTJB ON WINDMILL POWER IN DEN-
MARK (12 S. iv. 331).— Prof. Poul La Cour's
paper (in Danish) advocating the use of
windmills for generating electricity appeared-
originally in the Tekniske Forenings Tids-
skrift in' 1905. and reprints of it in pamphlet
form. The society's reading-room is — or
was then — at 18 Vestre Boulevard, Copen-
hagen. L. L. K.
A German translation of La Cour's work
can be consulted in the Patent Office Libraryr-
25 Southampton Buildings, London.
E. COLLINS.
P.O. Library.
TOAD- JUICE (12 S. v. 70).— The toad was
included in the Edinburgh pharmacopoeia
of 1735. but it was the whole animal that
was used. It was dried and powdered and
given internally, chiefly for dropsy, but also
as an antidote for poison — on the homoeo-
pathic principle, perhaps, since the toad
itself was poisonous. Paracelsus recom-
mends toads, boiled alive in oil, or rather
the oil in which they have been boiled, as
an application for morphew and obstinate
ulcers. The stone supposed to be found in
the toad's head was used chiefly as aiu
104
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. v. APRIL, 1919.
amulet, as a preservativeTfrom plague and
other evils, but Lemery believed it to be
-equally efficacious, as probably it was,
taken internally in the form of a powder.
I have not met in any professional writer
€kny mention of such use of the toad as that
you: correspondent speak? of. C. C. B.
" STATEROOM " = PASSENGER'S CABIN
(12 S. i. 307, 475).— To the examples given
:at the latter reference may be added : —
" She had given Oapt. Whitefield twenty
Guineas for the Great Cabin and State Boom.
'The Mother and Daughter lay there ; the Lady's
Woman and Maid lay in a little Cabin ; the
Youngkers and myself lay in the Hammocks,
which we slung and unslung in the great Cabin
Night and Morning, before the Maids went to Bed
and rose again ; Mr. Bolt [a servant] lay in a
little Cabbin in the Steerage built on Purpose.
Thus our Family was exceedingly well lodg'd." —
•' The True Anti-Pamela : or, Memoirs of Mr.
.James Parry,' 1741, p. 23. i ' '-' **J
The ship was the Two Friends, 300 tons
burden ; the date of the voyage (Bristol to
•Charles-Town, South Carolina) was Novem-
ber, 1727- January, 1728 (pp. 21, 22, 24).
ROBERT PIERPOINT.
BACK-MAGAZINE DEALERS (12 S. v. 40). —
With reference to MR. PIERPOINT' s inquiry,
I append, the names of some dealers from
whom I have obtained back numbers of
magazines : —
Mr. George, 23 Jacob Street, Bermoridsey,
;S.E.
Mr. Thorpe, 53 Ship Street, Brighton.
Mr. Humphreys, 71 High Road, Streatham,
:S.W.16.
A list of such booksellers will be of great
-as Distance to many. W. M. CHUTE.
Chiswick.
Your correspondent will probably get
what he wants from Messrs. George, 108
Hainault Road, London, E.ll, who are
making a speciality of sets, runs, and missing
Stems of British periodical literature.
ARCHIBALD SPARKLE.
MR. PIERPOINT may like to know that I
have sometimes been successful in obtaining
back numbers of magazines from both
Mr. H. Stead, 12A Penfcon Place, Kennington,
S.E.17, arid Messrs. E. George & Son,
23 Jacob Street, S.E.I. J. R. H.
ANIMONY TODD, SECRETARY OF THE
O.P.O. (12 S. iv. 11, 114).— He was twice
>mi.rrie 1. One wife was Anne, daughter of
Oiirisboph.9: Robinson of the G.P.O., London
<(a m3nab8:- of a Westmorland family) ;
fciio OoliDr WAS Eleanor, eld3.st daughter
of Richard Smith, Esq., of Islington, co.
Middlesex. The latter is the reputed mother
of Lady Lauderdale. To prove this can
any reader give date of either of these
marriages ? What is the inscription on
Anthony Todd's gravestone at Waltham-
stow ? What is the date of the marriage
contract between Anthony Todd and Anne
Robinson mentioned at the second reference
above ? J. W. FAWCETT.
Consett, co. Durham.
DEACON IN LOVE (12 S. v. 42). — It has
occurred to me that if the comma were
placed after the word " Deacon," instead
of after the word " love," the meaning of
jhe sentence would become obvious at once.
The chantry is stated to have been well
endowed ; and the deacon was admitted
bo office in the church in charity.
FRANK PENNY.
EDWARD HYDE, D.D. (12 S. v. 69).—
Edward Hyde was rector of Brightwell, and
died in 1658. His mother was Barbara
Castilion of Benham Valence, Berks, and
she died in 1641.
She was descended from " Johanna
Baptista Castilion " (sic), who was of a
Piemontese family, originally of Dogliani,
the name being Castiglione, from the place
so called near Turin. He was granted the
manors of Wood-Speen and Benham Valence
in 1565 by Queen Elizabeth "for his faith-
ful services to her in her ^troubles " ; and
in the church at Speen, the south aisle of
which is called " Castillion," there is an
altar -tomb with his effigy in armour, as
also one to Dame Elizabeth Castilion, wife
of his son Sir Francis Castilion, who died in
1603. John Baptist's father was Sir Peter
Castillion of Mantua. The present repre-
sentative of the family is II Conte di Cas-
tiglione Faletto. CONSTANCE RUSSELL.
Swallowfield, Reading.
Edward Hyde, baptized in Salisbury
Cathedral May 12. 1606, was the seventh of
the twelve sons of Laurence Hyde and
Barbara Castilian his wife. There is a
pedigree of the Castilian family in The
Genealogist, vol. xvii. p. 74. She was a
daughter of John Baptiste Castilian of
Benham, Berks ; her sister Ann married
Laurence Hyde's elder brother Robert.
Edward Hyde married Anne, daughter of
Thomas Lambert, and had two daughters :
Margaret, who married William Hearst, and
Anna, who married Richard Coleman. See
Wilts Notes and Queries, vol. vi; p. 435.
J. J. H.
12 S. V. APRIL, 1919.1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Edward Hyde was baptized May 10, 1607,
and buried Aug. 6, 1659. He married Ann,
daughter of Thomas Lambert (? of Boyton,
Wilts), and had two daughters. See 'Notes
on the Hydes of Wilts and Cheshire,' by
J. J. Hammond (of Salisbury), Wilts N. & Q.,
vol. vi. pp. 342, 435.
JOHN WATSON-TAYLOR.
Wellington Club, S.W.I.
THE ' NEW ENGLISH DICTIONARY ' :
CHANGES IN ACCENTUATION (12 S. v. 32). —
The quite common di'vine and se'rene are
not noticed ; nor is Thomson's ma'nure (vb.),
though that stress is recorded for the noun :
nor are Keats' s de'vout and vibra'te : nor
Milton's infi'nite and a'mbitious. PROF.
STOCKLEY might have quoted Cowper and
Collins for acce'ss. The Dictionary gives
three references for one-sidedness. PROF.
STOCKLEY' s is earlier than any of these, but
1 had anticipated him in my sixth letter to
The Times Literary Supplement.
GEORGE G. LOANE.
4 Linriell Close, N.W.4.
HEDGEHOGS (12 S. iv. 76, 140). — MR.
SELF WEEKS' s information upon this sub-
ject is valuable no less to the naturalist
than to the local historian. One remark
needs enlightenment : " The hedgehog was
destroyed because it was (and in some places
still is) popularly sLpposed to suck the
udders of cows, and abstract the milk."
I am so fortunate as to be able to prove
the Elizabethans right, and modern zoolo-
gists wrong, respecting this long-moot point :
John Cockaday of the Queen's Head Hotel
at Stradbroke in Suffolk wrote to me in
September, 1911, that he "has on several
occasions .seen a hedgehog sucking a cow,
when farming on Mr. Eustace Gurney's
Sproston Hall estate in Norfolk." Such
direct evidence was of capital value, . and
I called on the 28th of that month at the
hotel, when Cockaday, a hard-headed
countryman, gave me these circumstantial
details, v.v. : Five years ago (1906) he
noticed a cow lying down, and, on approach-
ing, that a hedgehog — very common in that
district — was sucking the udder. This was
distinctly visible at fifteen or twenty yards,
and the contraction of the cheeks in the
act of suction also was evident. The
important point noticed was that only the
extremity of the mouth touched the teat,
and the teeth were not in contact at all,
which obviates the theory advanced by
many naturalists that their conformation
precluded the possibility of such sucking
habit. In this ca.se, after a short time
the teeth would appear to have actually
come into play, for the cow jumped to her
feet in a fright and kicked vigorously at the
hedgehog, which Cockaday' s dog promptly
slew. Folk-lorists will, consequently, have
to relinquish this erstwhile " superstition " f
CLAUDE MORLEY, F.E.S., F.Z.S.
Monk Soham House, Suffolk.
' IRRELAGH ; OR, THE LAST OF THE
CHIEFS ' (12 S. v. 69).— I am able, through
the kindness of Dr. Crone, editor of tue-
Irish Book-Lover, to reply to my own query.
The authoress was a Miss E. Colthurst, and
the volume was published by Houlston &
Stoneman. It may be added that the story
was evidently written in the interests of the
Irish Society (now amalgamated with the
Irish Church Missions), that the type is
excellent, the punctuation execrable, and
the dialogue irritatingly run into the context-
without distinction of lines. Otherwise the
novel is well composed and* the characters
are interesting and well drawn.
J. B. McGovERN.
St. Stephen's Rectory, C.-on-M., Manchester.
VAUVENARGUES : " LA CLARTE EST LA.
BONNE FOI DES PHILOSOPHES " (12 S. V. 39).
— This fine maxim will be found in the
' Per. sees diverses ' of Vauvenargues. In
my edition ( ' (Euvres Choisies ' ) it is num-
bered 372 ; and followed by the equally
true " La nettete est le vernis des maitres."
The 'Pensees' follow the 'Reflexions et
Maximes,' of which those quoted are
nos. 4 and 5. GEORGE MARSHALL.
21 Parkfield Road, Liverpool.
PRE-RAPHAELITE STAINED GLASS (12 S...
iv. 217, 337 ; v. 74).— There are few churches-
in which the development of this glass can
be studied so well as in that of Middleton
Cheney in Buckinghamshire, not far from
Banbury. The whole of the windows in
the church, if I remember rightly, are filled
with it. The east window must have been
designed before Morris realized that the
shape of the pieces of glass was an important
matter. As you approach the window
from the west the effect is much damaged1
by a large irregular-shaped piece of light
glass which includes Moses's head (and
horns) and beard. When you get up close
to the window you lose this, and appreciate
the excellence of the drawing on the surface
of *he glass. The windows in the north
aisle are of the same general character, but
more care has been taken with the size and
shape of the pieces of glass. The artists,,
however, learnt to rely less upon drawing.,.
106
NOTES AND QUERIES. [iss.\r.A™iL. win.
more upon the effect of masses of well-
dispersed colour. In the west window are
three large and magnificent figures of the
three children in the furnace. The general
disposition is not unlike the Faith, Hope,
and Charity of the west window in the
:«outh ahle of Christ Church Cathedral ;
but when on a summer evening the window
is glorified by the red rays of the setting
sun, it gives the spectator an idea of what
the best stained glass in a suitable position
can produce in the way of brilliance of effect.
JOHN R. MAGRATH.
Queen's College, Oxford.
ABANAZAR (12 S. v. 68)- — Abanazar is the
name of the African magician in the story of
Aladdin in the ' Arabian Nights.'
WlLLOUGHBY MAYCOCK.
OATH OF FEALTY: EDWARD III. (12 S.
v. 9). — Froissarb states : —
" It appears to me that King Edward at that
time did homage by mouth and words, but without
placing his hands in the hands of the King of
France, or any prince, prelate, or representative
doing it for him. And the King of England by
the advice of his Council would not proceed
further in this business until he should be
returned to England, and have examined the
privileges of old times to clear up this homage,
and see by what means a King of England was
.•a vassal to the King of France."
For further particulars of the corre-
spondence and its results see the rest of
• chap, xxiii. of the ' Chronicles,' translated
by Thomas Johnes (1803) ; also Rymer,
anno 1329, who gives a copy of the original
instrument of the homage, besides another
document which Froissart appears to have
consulted. N. W. HILT..
BURIAL AT SEA : FOUR GUNS FIRED FOR
AN OFFICER (12 S. v. 38). — The following
notes occur in tho Diary of Henry Toonge,
who was Chaplain of H.M.S. Assistance,
Bristol, and Royal Oak, 1675-1679. c
The custom of saluting with an odd
number of guns appears to have been
observed from a very early period : the
origin of the usage, as peculiar to the Navy,
is not ascertained ; but it probably arose
from the predilection in favour of odd
numbers, which has existed from a very
remote antiquity. Brand, in his ' Ob-
servations upon Popular Antiquities,' says :
*' Salutes with cannon consist of odd num-
bers ; this predilection for odd numbers
is very ancient, and is mentioned by Virgil
in his 8th Eclogue."
In a MS. ' Discourse on Marine Affairs,'
an the Harleian Collection (no. 1341), the
ceremony used on board upon the^depar-
ture of any personage of high rank or
command in the Navy is fully described,
and concludes thus : —
" Bt-inge againe returned intoe his barge, after
that the trumpets have sounded a loathe to
Departe, and that the barge is falne oft a fitt and
faire birthe and distance from the shippe side,
hee is toe bee saluted with soe manie gunns for
an adieu, as the shippe is able toe give, provided
that they bee alwaies of an odd number. The
odd number is, in these wayes of salute and
ceremonie, soe observable at- sea, that whenso-
ever anie gunnes are given in an even nomber,
it is received for an infallible expression that
either the Captaine, or master, or master gunner is
dead in the voiage. It is a generall custome
alsoe uppon the deathe either of the captaine,
master, master gunner of the shippe, or anie
other propre officer, when the corpse is toe bee
throwne overboarde, to ring his knell and fare-
well with some gunns, the which are allwaies to
bee of an even nomber."
A. G. KEALY,
Chaple.in, R.N., retd.
Bedford.
RAIN AND MOWING (12 S. v. 41, 81). —
I have heard a similar saying in the countiy
districts of Durham and Northumberland,
applied indiscriminately, not to any par-
ticular field, but to farmers who are not too
sharp in getting on with their hay while tho
weather is fine, as " O, it's sure to rain ;
old Johnson's on with his hay."
J. W. FAWCETT.
Conaett, co. Durham."]
KENT FAMILY OF WINCHESTER AND
READING (12 S. iv. 187, 274; v. 52).—
Clement Kent, M.P. Wallingford, 1705-8,
and Reading 1722-7, High Sheriff, Berks,
Nov., 1714, inherited from his grandfather
Sebastian Lyford the manor of Crokeham,
Berks, which, however, he afterwards sold
to Bulstrode Peachey Knight, M.P. He
matriculated from Balliol College, Oxford,
June 12, 1700, aged 17 (Foster's ' Alumni
Oxon.'), was admitted to the Inner Temple,
Nov. 16, 1700 (Registers), and was serving
in 1706 as captain -lieutenant of the regiment
of foot raised on Ma~ch 1, 1704, in Ireland,
by Lord Henry Scott (afterwards Earl of
Deloraine). He was promoted to captain
in Sir Daniel O' Carrol's regiment of Dragoons
in 1709, but placed on half -pay at the
Peace of Utrecht in 1712. He again went
on full pay as captain of an additional troop
in Brigadier -General Philip Honywood's
(llth) regiment of Dragoons on Dec. 25,
1726 (Dalton, vol. viii.), and probably went
on half-pay again when his troop was
reduced in 1729. When examined by a
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
107
Board of General Officers on May 11, 1726,
he stated that his age was 41 years, with
16 years' service, and that he had seen
service in Portugal. Two other Kents were
in the army. James Kent, ensign in 37th
Foot, June 25, 1704, lieutenant June 29,
1708, was wounded at Blenheim, 1704, for
which he received 22Z. bounty, and was also
wounded at Schellenberg, and served at
Malplaquet. Richard Kent was made ensign
in the 12th Foot, April 17, 1716.
Then, again, there was Samuel Kent,
M.P. Ipswich, 1734, till he died Oct. 8,
1759, aged 76. He was distiller to the
Court in 1739 (Gent. Mag.) ; Purveyor of
Chelsea Hospital (500Z. a year), September,
1740, till death ; a Commissioner of Lieu-
tenancy for London, June 21, 1740. He
was of Lambeth, and Fornham St. Gene-
vieve, Suffolk, and son of Thomas Kent, a
Norway merchant (who was son of Griffith
Kent, also a Norway merchant)/ This
Samuel had a son of the same name, and a
daughter Sarah (heiress to her brother),
who was married Jan. 29, 1743, " with
15,OOOZ.," to Sir Charles Eagleton, Knt.,
a London merchant, Sheriff 1743, who died
April 25, 1769. Their only son Sir Charles
Kent (M.P. Thetford, 1784-^0, created a
baronet, Aug. 16, 1782, of Wadworth,
Yorks, and Fornham), born about 1744,
married, in or before 1783, Mary, eldest
daughter and coheiress of Josiah Words-
worth of Wadworth, Yorks, and Sevenscore,
Kent. He took the surname of Kent under
his maternal grandfather's will, on succeed-
ing to his estates at the death of his uncle
Thomas Kent of Camberwell (who died unm.
May 15, 1766, aged 59), and d. at Grantham,
March 14, 1811, aged 67. He was buried at
Wadworth, and his will proved 1811.
W. R. W.
LONDON-PARIS AIRSHIP (12 S. v. 58). —
Possibly this extract from Peter Parley's
' Tales about Great Britain and Ireland,'
published by Tegg, London, 1839, and
written after the author's visit for the
coronation of Queen Victoria, may help : —
" Since my return to America I have heard o:
an aerial ship, that has been shown in England
This ship, no less than one hundred and sixty feel
long, fifty high, and forty wide, is said to be
intended to establish direct communications
between the capitals of Europe, by sailing through
the air. Its crew is to consist of seventeen men
besides which it is to carry many passengers
The balloon part of the ship, to be filled with gas
is very large, and to the body of the car part
below, there are attached large flappers, or wings
which have a very curious appearance. In a
common balloon, ballast is thrown out, if tb
balloon is wanted to go higher, and gas lej; outr
when it is required to descend ; but the contrivance
in the aerial ship is quite different. There is a
method planned, to render the car part of the
ship heavier and lighter, by expelling and drawing
in the air just in the same way that a fish does
when it wants to sink or swim in the water. I
have'not yet heard of this aerial ship having made
a voyage across the British Channel : when I
hear of it, I will tell you all about it."
The above account supplies some amount
f detail, and is accompanied (p. 337) by a
^ell-executed wood engraving differing in
some respects from the handbill reproduced
n ' N. & Q.' The " Peter Parley " illus-
tration appears to indicate light wings
attached to the body of the ship (assuming
wings equally fixed on both its sides),,
whilst only one of the ends of the car has
its wing attached. Presumably, the account
now quoted applies to " The Eagle " of the
handbill ; but it may have had a successor
between 1835 and 1839 with some alterations
in construction. W. B. H.
BYRONIC STATUE IN FLEET STREET (12 S.
v. 40, 82). — At the latter reference it is sug-
gested that Sir John Sinclair may have
aused the statue of Kaled to be erected.
So far as my memory serves, the existing
building at the corner of Chancery Lane
was erected in the early eighties, The
Builder and other journals discussing its
appearance and the Byronic statue.
In 1906 Sir John Sinclair wrote me on the-
subject of his commemorative buildings in
Fleet Street ; but no. 193 was not included,
and I am confident it predates his earliest
enterprise by ten years or more.
ALECK ABRAHAMS.
BISHOPS OF THE FIFTEENTH CENTURY
(12 S. iv. 330). — According to Gams,' Series
Episcoporum,' George Bran, Bishop of
Dromore, was translated to Elphin on
April 15, 1499. He is followed in the li&t
by a nebulous William in 1500 ; he in turn,
by a Galeatiiis in " 15— ? " ; and on June 12,
1504, by a Joannes Baptista. References
are given.
As regards the mysterious William. Bishop
of Pharos (Lesina), a Beiivenutus occupied
the see from 1385 to about 1410, and a
Georgius in 1412. Between the two names
there is a note " sedes vacat." But Eubel
in his ' Hierarchia Catholica Medii Mvi '
has a note that Georgius succeeded Ben-^
venutus in the see on this prelate's death.
Neither Gams nor Eubel seems to know
anything about John, Bishop of Philip-
popolis circa 1453. He probably belonged
to the Greek Church. L. L. K.
108
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. v. APRIL, 1919.
" RAIN CATS AND DOGS " (12 S. iv. 328).—
'The expression in the North of England is
"*' raining cats and dogs," and is used during
a heavy downpour of rain. In Northern
mythology a cat is said to be influenced by
the coming storm. Without warning, it
will spring from its cosy sleeping-place and
-commence capering round the house ; then
it is said to " have a gale in its tail." Has
the expression an origin with cats and dogs
pattering across a bare boarded floor,
strangely resembling the sound of a heavy
downpour of rain ? A. E. OTJGHTRED.
Hartlepool.
PROF. DE MORGAN'S contention, men-
tioned in the editorial note, is borne out by
the French equivalent of this proverb :
pleuvoir des hallebardes or des rasoirs. The
former is sometimes extended to pleuvoir
des hallebardes la pointe en has. This is no
recent invention, for it is found as a well-
known expression in Joseph Pankouke's
4 Dictionnaire des Proverbes fransois,' Paris,
1749. DE V. PAYEN-PAYNE.
Is this expression due to anything more
than a bold flight of imagination in which a
heavy downfall of rain is likened to a shower
of dead cats and dogs ? J. T. F.
Winterton, Lines.
THE ST. HELENA ' LIFE OF MARLBOROUGH '
(12 S. v. 70). — Is the following the work
required by SIR LEES KNOWI.ES ?
" Histoire de Jean Churchill, Due de Marl-
borough [composed principally by Madgett,
edited and enlarged by the Abbe J. F. H. Dutems].
3 tomes. Paris. 1806."
Abbe Dutems was Professor of History at
the College de France. It is the only life
of Churchill that I can trace as being' pub-
lished in Paris in 1806, and a copy may be
seen at the British Museum, or at the John
Rylands Library, Manchester.
ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
"CAMOUFLAGE" (12 S. v. 42, 70).— The
Observer of March 2 in an article called ' The
Three Grades of Disguise : Camouflage,
Dazzle, and Disruption,' after describing the
methods of concealment adopted by artists
for guns, &c., at the front, had the follow-
ing :—
" Camouflage was a word coined and used by
the Paris Apaches to express their method of
making a quick disguise, or an alteration of a
disguise, but as practised in the British army it
came to mean something more subtle : a conceal-
dng of the fact that something was concealed."
Can this statement a-3 to the origin of the
word be supported ? J. R. H.
' THE POOR THRESHER,' SONG ATTRI-
BUTED TO BURNS (12 S. v. 66)'. — MR.
STRATTON asks about the song ' The Poor
Thresher, '-attributed to Burns by the com-
piler of a glossary. The ballad is far older
than the time of Burns. It appears in a
seventeen -stanza form on a black -let her
broadside in the Roxburghe Collection, under
the title of ' The Nobleman's generous
Kindness,' &c. Since the seventeenth cen-
tury it has remained a great favourite with
printers of ballad-sheets. Johnson included
a sixteen-stanza broadside version in his
' Scots Musical Museum.' It is there de-
scribed as having been
* transmitted by Burns, in his own handwriting,
to Johnson. In a note accompanying it, the bard
says, ' / iis rather too long, but it i« very pretty, and
never, that I know o/, ivas printed before. ' '
The ballad of ' The Poor Thresher ' is known
to most country singers, and is to be found
wedded to fine tunes in ' Sussex Songs '
(Broadwood, 1889) and ' English County
Songs ' (Broadwood and Fuller-Maitland,
1893) ; also in the Journal of the Folk-Song
Society and various other more recent collec-
tions. LUCY E. BROADWOOD.
" NABLETTE " : " BONTEFEU " (12 S.
v. 66). — See the note on Book IV. sect. 198,
1. 3, in the bost edition of Clarendon's
' History ' — that of Mr. W. D. Macray, who
writes as follows : —
" In the recent editions this line is printed,
' laden with nabletts and murderers, and dressed
up with waist-clothes.' Tne word nabletts is a
misreading of rablettes, which is the word really
but obscurely written in the MSS., and which is
another form of rabonets, the name of a small kind
of ordnance. And wast-clothes is Clarendon's
change of a word found in the King's Declaration
of Aug. 12....' ....one hundred lighters and
long-boats were set out by water, laden with
sacres, murdering peeces, and other ammunition,
dressed up with mast-clothes and streamers as
ready for fight.' But the alteration was, no doubt,
intentional by Clarendon, wast-doths being an
obsolete term used for cloths hung round the sides
of a ship to hide the crew from enemies ; for which
possibly mast-cloths was used as synonymous.
In the transcript from which the first folio edition
was printed,, the words ' small pieces of ordnance '
are substituted for the words ' rabletts and
murderers '...." — Vol. i. p. 599.
The ' N.E.D.' gives several quotations
for this obsolete sense of " murderer," a
small cannon or mortar ; and from the
same work it will be seen that " Rablett,"
which is a very Proteus in its changing
forms, is really the old French " Robinet,"
a diminutive of the personal name Robin.
" Bontefeu " should be " Boutefeu," an
incendiary, firebrand. The * N.E.D.,' while
12 S. V. APRIL, 1919"]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
109
giving numerous instances of this word,
which it describes as very common in the
seventeenth century, somehow contrives to
omit the one example which is probably
most familiar to students of literature : —
But we, who onely do infuse
The Rage in them like Boute-feus.
' Hudibras,' I. i. 785-6.
There is a characteristic note on this in the
* Annotations ' to the poem : —
" Bout-feus is a French word, and therefore
it were uncivil to suppose any English Person
(especially of Quality) ignorant of it, or so ill-bred
as to need an Exposition."
EDWARD BENSLY.
[W. A. B. C. and MB. W. A. HUTCHISON also
thanked for replies.]
ANDREW B. WRIGHT, LOCAL HISTORIAN
AND ACTOR (12 S. v. 14, 78). — Andrew Biggs
Wright was the son of George Wright, actor,
of Carlisle ; was born there in 1796 ; was a
travelling actor and tragedian, and a
Bohemian journalist, contributing to the
press of the towns in which he performed ;
died at Bexley, Kent, March 3, 1852,
aged 56. He was author of (1) ' An Essay
towards a History of Hexham [Northumber-
land],' in three parts (Alnwiek, 1823), 8vo,
pp. xi— 246. Dedicated to the Rev. Robert
Clarke, A.M., Lecturer of Hexham (1801-18),
member of the Newcastle Antiquarian Society,
&c. (2) ' Elegiac Verses upon the Murder of
Joseph Hedley, alias Joe the Quilter ' (which
occurred near Warden, Northumberland,
Jan. 3, 1826) — 1826, broadsheet.
J. W. FAWCETT.
HAMPSHIRE CHURCH BELLS AND THEIR
FOUNDERS (12 S. iv. 188, 341 ; v. 44).—
I have read with much interest DR. WHITE -
HEAD'S notes on the subject of the bell-
founders R. B. and I. H., and regret that
I cannot at present throw any further light
on their identity. Besides the bells in
Hants by these founders, I have notes of
one in Dorset and six in Wilts by R. B., and
three in the latter county by I. H. J should
also like to point out, in fairness to Dr.
Tyssen, that he is the author of the sug-
gestion that John Higden was Carterrs
assistant at Reading (see his ' Sussex Bells,'
p. 44 of the original edition).
I am strongly in support of Mr. A. H.
Cocks's opinion that geographical distribu-
tion is an important factor in determining
the locality in which a group of bells were
made. If we apply the test in the present
case we obtain the following results : —
(1) R. B.'s bells between 1595 and 1624
aie nearly all to be found in South Hants
and South Wilts, and^out of the total of
29, 17 are in South Hants or the Isle of
Wight. Against this we have three in
North Hants, two in North Wilts, and one
in Dorset.
(2) Out of 23 known bells by I. H. there
are 16 in South Hants, three in South Wilts,
and two in West Sussex, as against two in
North Hants.
This clearly points to Winchester or
Southampton as the locality of the foundry.
I have excluded the R. B. b^lls in SUPFOX,
as apparently they are by another (local)
founder. It is possible that Anthony Bond
had some connexion with R. B., but we have
no direct evidence, beyond the circumstance
that his bells are found in the same localities.
The most promising chance of identi-
fying these founders, or at all events of
ascertaining where they worked, would be-
by the investigation of churchwardens'
accounts. If DR. WHITEHEAD could ascer-
tain which of the parishes now or recently
possessing bells by R. B. or I. H. have old
accounts of the period remaining, a search
would probably result in unearthing* the
name of the place whence the founder came,
even if the bells were cast on the spot, and
possibly also the founder's name, though
that is not always given.
H. B. WALTERS.
FINKLE STREET (12 S. v. 69). — I can supply
J. T. F. with two more examples. One is in
the coast town of Workington, Cumberland,
and the other in Carlisle, the chief town of
the same county. I can give no explanation
of the name Finkle, but in the case of one
of the streets mentioned above there is a
bend or curve. F. W.
BELL AND SHOULDER INN (12 S. iv. 326).
—This sign is doubtless a compound oner
formed by the union of the sign of the Bell
with that of the Shoulder of Mutton, though
for brevity's sake the words " of Mutton "
have been dropped.
The Bell is a very common sign, and
there will immediately occur to every one
the recollection of the Bell at Edmonton,
immortalized in the story of John Gilpin's
ride. The Shoulder of Mutton is also no
uncommon sign. It was at the Shoulder
of Mutton at Brecknock that Mrs. Siddons,
England's greatest tragic actress, was born
July 14, 1755. " Fancy," writes an en-
thusiastic biographer, " the English Mel-
pomene behind the bar of such a place ! "
There is, or was till lately, a Shoulder of
Mutton Inn at Newport, Isle of Wight,,
facing the mill-pond behind Ford Mill there..
110
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. v. APRIL, 19.9.
My father used to tell me that in former
days, when the municipal authorities walked
the bounds of the borough, a man named
Toby Townsend was employed to trace the
more inaccessible parts of the boundary,
and that in the course of his task he had to
wade through the whole length of the before-
mentioned mill-pond. My father said that
when Toby got opposite the Shoulder of
Mutton he always came out of the pond
and went into that hostelry for a refresher,
and this done he re-entered the water and
resumed his perambulation up the centre
of the pond.
The Bell is frequently found in com-
bination with another sign. Messrs. Lar-
wood and Hotten, ' History of Signboards '
(Chatto <fe Windus, 1898), while not
noticing the Bell and Shoulder, mention the
Bell and Anchor at Hammersmith ; the
Bell and Lion at Crewe ; the Bell and
Bullock at Netherem, Penrith ; the Bell
and Cuckoo at Erdington, near Birmingham ;
the Bell and Candlestick at Birmingham ;
and several other combinations.
They also record the Shoulder of Mutton
and Cucumbers at Yapton, Arundel, and the
Shoulder of Mutton and Cat at Hackney.
The signboard of the latter formerly had
the following rhymes on it : —
Pray, Puss, don't tear,
For the mutton is so dear ;
Pray, Puss, don't claw,
For the mutton yet is raw.
Various reasons have been advanced for
these combined signs. Messrs. Larwood
and Hotten point out that at the beginning
of the seventeenth century pigns had no
combinations, while a century later very
heterogeneous objects joined together are
met with. They suggest that many of the
strange combinations may have arisen
(1) from mistakes as to the objects which
the signboard portrayed, or (2) from, mis-
pronunciation, e.g., the Shovel and Boot
might be a mistake for the Shovel and Boat,
a3 the Shovel and Ship is a common sign in
place 5 where grain is carried by canal boats,
(3) Whimsical persons would frequently aim
at the most odd combination they could
imagine, for no other reason than to attract
attention.
They also refer to another reason for
combination of signs, which is given in an
article in The Spectator, No. 28, April 2, 1710,
where the writer states
" that it is usual for a young tradesman, at his
first setting up, to add to his own sign that of the
master whom he served, as the husband, after
marriage, gives a place to his mistress's arms in
his own coat."
Yet another cause of " quartering " signs
was that it was customary, on removing
from one shop to another, to add the sign
of the old shop to that of the new one.
WM. SELF WEEKS.
Westwood, Clitheroe.
CHRISTMAS VERSES AT SHEFFIELD (12 S.
iv. 324 ; v. 46, 82).— The New Year's Song
given by PROF. MOORE SMITH at the second
reference is identical with one I have known
in the county of Durham for the last fifty
years. J. W. FAWCETT.
Consett, co. Durham.
ST. CLEMENT AS PATRON SAINT (12 S.
iv. 14, 82). — He seems to be the particular
patron of blacksmiths, a song ori the lines
of the sailors' chanties being sung by them
while at work. Pip learned it from Joe
Gargery, and repeated it for Miss Havisham
(' Great Expectations,' chap. xii.). See also
* Old English Customs ' (Ditchfield), pp. 168-
171, and an article by F. E. Sawyer on " Old
Clem " celebrations and blacksmiths' lore
(Folk-lore Journal, ii. 321-9).
J. ARDAGH.
SIR THOMAS BROWNE : TOM BROWN ( 12 S.
v. 6). — No doubt the Tom Brown referred to
by PROF. BENSLY is the one praised by
Benjamin the barber in ' Tom Jones ' "as
one of the greatest wits that ever the nation
produced," though I must say that at one
time I thought this referred to the more
famous knight, who certainly had a con-
siderable amount of unconscious humour.
Can any reader inform me if the latter's
skull is still in Norwich Museum ? Mr.
Edmund Gosse, in his volume on Browne,
refers to it as concluding its extraordinary
adventures there. W. KENT.
JJote; 0n
Indexes to Irish Wills. — Vol. IV. Dromore,
Jfeivry, and Mourne. Edited by Gertrude
Thrift. (Phillimore & Co., II. Is.)
THE pages of ' N. & Q.' supply ample evidence
of the interest taken by American citizens in their
Irish ancestors, and the good work which is being
done by Messrs. Phillimore's " Irish Record
Series " deserves to be widely known. The first
three volumes related to dioceses in the south of
Ireland ; this is devoted to an Ulster diocese.
Mr. T. M. Blagg, the general editor of the
series, supplies in the preface an interesting
account of the exempt, or " peculiar," jurisdiction
of Newry and Mourne, showing that it was a
survival of the episcopal jurisdiction exercised
by the Cistercian Abbey of the B.V.M. and
St. Patrick of Newry, founded in 1157 by Maurice
i2js. v. APRIL, 1919.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
Ill
MacLoughlin, King of Ireland. During the reign
of Edward VI. the abbey and its possessions were
granted to Sir Nicholas Bagnal, and the episcopal
jurisdiction consequently devolved upon him and
his descendants, the Earls of Kilmorey. The
way in which proper names are sometimes dis-
guised by the inclusion of the final letter of a
preceding word has been illustrated recently in
4 N. & Q.' with reference to St. Ninian (see ante,
pp. 7, 53). Newry affords another example.
The place was named " lubhar ceann tragha,"
the yew tree at the strandhead, from a yew which
had' been planted by St. Patrick. This was
shortened, and pronounced " Yure," which was
converted into " Newry " through the assimilation
of the definite article " an."
The bulk of the volume consists of the index to
the Dromore wills, which is followed by a cross
index to the many aliases that occur in them.
The Newry and Mourne wills complete the
volume, which is excellently printed, though in
the Contents the Dromore cross index should be
p. 161. The wills at all three depositories have
been indexed down to 1858, the date of the
extinction of the jurisdictions.
The Beasts, Birds, and Bees of Virgil : a Natural-
ist's Handbook to the ' Georgics.' By Thomas
Fletcher Boyds. (Oxford, Blackwell, 4s. 6d.
net.)
Virgil and Isaiah : a Study of the ' Pollio,' with
Translations, Notes, and Appendices. (Same
author and publisher, 5s. net.)
THE first of these little books is a second edition.
W«» see this with pleasure because the work makes
no inconsiderable contribution to that new
tradition in the use and enjoyment of the Latin
and Greek classics with which we have before
now expressed our satisfaction. Mr. Boyds
brings together much scattered wisdom and folk-
lore bearing on the subjects Virgil treats of in
the ' Georgics ' ; and it may count as an addi-
tional merit that he does not introduce his
material merely as literary or picturesque illus-
tration, but discusses the details of Virgil's
practical counsels from the practical point of
view. No one would expect to find the poet
right in a majority of points ; it is pleasant to
find him so in more than one might have expected.
Any lover of Virgil and the country will enjoy
this book, despite a certain, perhaps inevitable,
scrappiness ; but we would specially recommend
it to any one whose business it is to introduce
boys to the ' Georgics.'
In ' Virgil and Isaiah ' Mr. Boyds gives us a
study of the fourth Eclogue, in which he discusses
most of the opinions which have been put for-
ward as to its meaning, and draws a careful and
amply illustrated parallel between it and the
great prophecy in Isaiah of the Prince with the
Four Names — treating not only of the actual
contents of the two, but also of their historical
setting, and of the greater or less verification
which history has seemed to furnish them with.
This forms a study which is worth some attention,
even if one does not wholly agree with all Mr.
Boyds's views. On Virgil's " prophetic " insight,
for example, we think he proves less convincing
than he might have been if he had recognized in
his argument that the gift of poetry is of itself
a kind of " illumination," which, seeing deep
into things as they are — below ^phenomena — is
at least apt for vision of truths which are, but are
not yet within ordinary human cognizance. If
this view of the poetic gift is sound, it would
actually be surprising if there were not poets in
the ancient world who witness, in some sort, to
Christianity.
A most interesting feature of the book consists
of the translations of the Eclogue — done first
into English hexameters, and then into Biblical
English. The latter, as to its rendering of the
richness, unction, and special character of Eng-
lish Biblical prose, is eminently successful ; and
it is almost equally striking in the distance from
Virgil to which it seems to throw his meaning —
in itself so carefully and accurately brought out.
THE Bibliographical Society of Ireland was
inaugurated at a meeting held on March 1 in the
Public Library, Great Brunswick Street, Dublin.
The objects of the Society are : —
(a) The promotion and encouragement of
Irish bibliographical studies and researches.
(6) The printing of works connected with Irish
bibliography.
(c) The formation of an Irish Bibliographical
Library.
The annual subscription, for the present, is 5s.
Meetings will be held for hearing papers and for
exhibitions of bibliographical rarities. Mr. E. B.
McClintock Dix has been elected chairman ; and
the hon. secretary is Mr. Wm. MacArthur,
79 Talbot Street, Dublin, from whom further
particulars can be obtained.
BOOKSELLEBS' CATALOGUES.
MESSRS. GLAISHER'S March Catalogue of
Publishers' Bemainders comprises a number of
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dancing in Africa, and Hausa superstitions and
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(5s.), founded on the correspondence of Horace
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MESSRS. MAGGS send another of their ex-
cellently produced catalogues — no. 375, ' En-
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Drawings, Napoleonic Caricatures, Naval and
Military Prints.' The frontispiece, a reproduction
of Val. Green's mezzotint ' British Naval Victors,'
consists of portraits of Howe, St. Vincent, Duncan,
and Nelson (42L). Other illustrations include
Frances Kemble, mezzotint by J. Jones after
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J. B. Smith's mezzotint of Napoleon after Appiani
is 75Z. ; and among the Napoleonic caricatures is
a collection of 78 coloured plates by Cruikshank,
Bo-vylandson, and others, handsomely bound by
Riviere in crimson morocco, 84Z. Actors and
actresses are represented by Garrick and Edmund
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Kean, Mrs. Abington, Harriet Mellon, and Mrs.
Siddons ; Parliamentary orators by Chatham,
Burke, and Grattan ; while there are also portraits
of Bunyan and Robert Bloomfield, the author of
' The Farmer's Boy.'
MESSRS. SIMMONS & WATERS of Leamington
Spa forward their Eighteenth Annual Clearance
Catalogue. Under Art and Architecture we note
16 vols. of The Art Journal, 1855-70 (21. 2s.);
Blore's ' English Monuments,' 30 plates, 1825
(6s.) ; Jewitt's ' Glossary of Terms used in
Architecture,' 3 vols., 1,700 illustrations, 1850
(11. 10s.) ; and 8 vols. of The Magazine of Art,
1888-95 (11. 12s.). Under Biography is Evans's
' Catalogue of Engraved Portraits,' describing
nearly 20,000, 1830 (15s.). Two noteworthy
eighteenth-century novels, both first editions, are
Henry Brooke's ' Fool of Quality,' 5 vols. (7s. Qd.),
and Graves's ' Spiritual Quixote,' a satire on the
Methodists, 3 vols. (7s. 6d.). Another eighteenth-
century work is often quoted in ' N. & Q,.'—
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
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LONDON, MAY, 1919
C 0 N T E N T S. — No. 92.
NOTES :— Byron Apocrypha, 113 — Shakespeariana, US-
Correspondence of Richard Edwards, 117— New College,
Oxford — Little Montague Court, 118— Ripon Sours — "Nos
habitat, non tartara," 119— Letter from the " Kingmaker"
—Ireland : Early Italian Map, 120—" Fire out"— Coins of
Ancient Britons— Westminster Hall Roof— Walton Relic
— Interments in Graves belonging to other Families, 121.
QUERIES :— Bristol Wills Missing— Byron's Bust at Oxford
— R. S. Surtees — Gladstone on Dante — Sir Francis
Anderson's Descendants — English Parishes in 170o —
Anguish Street, 122— Capt. Palliser — Scotchman's Post —
"Three Black Crows" — Vickers Family— May — Labour-
in- Vain Street— " Talks about Old London "— Marlipins
— "The light invisible" — Joseph Knibb. Clockmaker, 123
—John Winter, Dial-maker— Rev. HfMiry Guy, Chaplain to
Charles II.— W. H. Wills on Dr. ftdd— Andrews and
Hardy Families — Good Friday Pleasure Fairs— Hon.
John Shakespear— Derby of 1811— Puleston of Gresford
and Hants -Exchange of Souls in Fiction— Rev. Dr.
Clenock, 124 — "Bayninge" and "Blankett" — Ant-bear
and Tortoise— Richard Snow — Lord Roberts : House in
which he died— William Simpson Ford— Rev. W. Bartlett
— Dr. T. Harrison — Convex Lights, 125 — " Penniles
Bench "— Bluecoat Schools— Edward Allen, Painter—
W. H. Arnold— Sir Edward Paget— Aaron Hugh— "Per-
versity of inanimate objects"— Clements Family, 126—
Author Wanted, 127.
REPLIES:— Churches used for the Election of Municipal
Officers, 127— " Straitsman." 128— Mr. Justice Maule on
Bigamy — "Lick into shape"— Bibliography of Epitaphs,
129— The Swin— Craggs and Nicholson Families— H. C.
Pidgeon— Richard Baxter— Brooke Robinson, 130— French
National Emblem— Submarines — Cornish and Devonian
Priests executed — J.Turner, Painter — " Trouncer," 131 —
Bird-scaring Songs— Missel Thrush— Morland Gallery—
W. F. Shrapnel—" Pro pelle cutem " — Markshall and the
Fuller Family, 132 — Captor and his Captive's Arms—
"Oh, dear! What can the matter be?"— Henchman, 133
—Heart Burial— Paten or Salver? 134— Vauvenargues—
Inscriptions in St. John's, Waterloo Road— Lines under a
Crucifix, 135— "Drink by word of mouth ''— Dickens's
Topographical Slips— "Camouflage" — Chess : the Knight's
Tour, 136-Grim or Grime— Gilt Wand— Odessa in Roman
Times— 'N.E D.' : Changes in Accentuation, 137— "Derby
Blues" — Boumphrey Family — Inscriptions at Gipping —
Mr. Medop- Cutting off the Hair— Rose of Denmark Inn,
138 — Author's Name Wanted — " Irrelagh " — Pragell
Family— Author of Quotation Wanted, 139.
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THE BYRON APOCRYPHA.
No exhaustive list of the poems and prose
pieces that have been attributed to Lord
Byron exists. E. H. Coleridge notes a few
poems, but his list is far from complete
and not altogether accurate (Byr oil's
* Works,' 'Poetry,' iii. xx. f.). Prof. Kolb-
ing described several items in Englische
Studien, xxvi. 67 f., and refers to others in
his edition of Byron's ' Werke,' Band ii.
p. 46 f. In the collations of different
editions of Byron's poems Mr. Coleridge set
down various spurious pieces (' Poetry,'
vii., passim). ' N. & Q.' has printed many
notes on individual pieces ; see especially
Seventh Series, vol. ii. (index). And de-
scriptions of several impostures may be
found in works on Lord Byron such as
Elze's ' Life ' and Miss Mayne's ' Life.'
But no full accurate list is in existence.
The courteous and satisfactory answers
that I received by post in reply to my
previous query on ' Byron in Fiction '
('N. & Q.,' January, 1918, p. 10) encourage
me to offer the following tentative list in
the hope that as it stands it may be of
value and interest to students of Byron,
and that some such students may be" able
to furnish me with a description of those
items (marked with an a^teri^k) that I have
not seen, and may perhaps be able to add
to the bibliography of the subject.
1. ' Ode ' : " Oh, shame to thee, Land of the
Gaul I "—See ' N. & Q.,' Second Series, ii. 48,
for a query (unanswered) as to its authorship.
Repudiated by Byron, July 22, 1816 (' Letters
and Journals,' iii. 337). First published, over
the signature " Brutus," in The Morning Chronicle,
July 31, 1815. The copy of R. Edwards's edition
of Byron's ' Poems on his Domestic Circum-
stances,' 1816, in the New York Public Library,
has a MS. note (p. 27) : " By William Cone — but
published under Lord Byron's name." (Query :
Hone ?) In John Robertson's edition of ' Fare
thee Well ! and other Poems ' (Edinburgh, 1816)
a note on p. 24 states that the ' Ode ' " has been
ascribed by many to the Author of the ' Pleasures
of Hope.' " This piece turned up persistently in
early pirated editions of Byron's poems ; for
example, in Hone's, Edwards's, Robertson's,
Sheppard's, Limbird's, Bumpus's, Knight &
Lacy's, Cole's, Bembow's, Dove's, and Jones's
volumes. It was in Galignani's edition of the
works from 1819 (yi. 121) till 1835, when it was
omitted. It is ascribed to Byron in ' The Laurel,'
a collection of fugitive nineteenth-century verse
published by Tilt, 1841 ; and is among the
" attributed poems " in the Bohn edition of 1851.
The piece is in nine stanzas (the last repeating the
first) of ten lines each. It is "a vehement in-
vective against the French people for their
desertion and neglect of Napoleon when fortune
no longer attended his arms." It is sufficiently
Byronic in its sentiments and rhetoric to make the
fact that it so long passed current not astonishing.
2. ' Madame La.valette.' — Repudiated by Byron,
July 22, 1816. First published, over the initials
" B. B.," in The Examiner, Jan. 21, 1816.
William Hone printed it in the first and all
subsequent editions of his pirated ' Poems on his
Domestic Circumstances,' 1816 f. Besides being
in many pirated editions of these poems during
the following years, it is in Moses Thomas's
reprint (Philadelphia, 1816) of ' Lord Byron's
Farewell to England ' (see next entry). John
Robertson (Edinburgh, 1816, 'p. 30) apologizes
for its inclusion. It is in Baudry's edition of the
Works (Paris, 1825, vii. 34.9), and in Galignani
1826 and 1828 among the " attributed poems " ;
not in Galignani 1835. It occurs among " attri-
buted poems " as late as the Bohn edition of 1851.
114
NOTES AND QUERIES.
(.128. V. MAY. 1919.
The piece (three stanzas of eight lines each) is
apparently in praise of the wife of Count Lavalette
who escaped from Paris in January, 1816 ; it
celebrates her virtue, constancy, and intelligence.
3. ' Farewell to England.' — This and the next
three items were published in " Lord Byron's
Farewell to England ; with three other poems
London : J. Johnston, 1816." For Byron's
repudiation of them see ' Letters and Journals,'
iii. 337 ; for the injunction proceedings brought
against Johnston, see ibid. iv. 19 f. The 'Fare-
well ' obtained a wide circulation. It is in the
collections of Thomas, Sheppard, Limbird,
Bumpus, Knight & Lacy, Cole, Bembow, Dove,
and Jones. It is quoted in full as by Byron in that
curious production ' The Life, Writings, Opinions,
and Times of Lord Byron,' 1825 (i. 273 f.). For a
description of this and the other three pieces in
Johnston's volume, see an article by the present
writer on ' The Pamphlets of the Byron Separa-
tion ' forthcoming in Modern Language Notes.
It is in no Galignani edition, but is in Bohn 1851.
4. ' Ode to the Island of Saint Helena.' — See 3
above ; this ' Ode ' occurs in the miscellaneous
collections mentioned there. It is also in
Galignani 1828 and 1831, but was removed from
the 1835 edition, from which many spurious pieces
were weeded out. Also in Bohn 1851.
5. ' To my Daughter, on the Morning of her
Birth.' — Byron remarked : " On the ' Morning of
my Daughter's Birth ' I had other things to think
ofthan verses " (' Letters and Journals,' iii. 337 f.).
It is in all collections mentioned i > 3 above, and
in all Galignani editions except 1835. Also in
Bohn 1851 ; and quoted in part in ' Life, Writings,'
&c., i. 288.
6. ' To the Lyly of France.' — Byron remarked :
" As to the ' Lyly of France,' I "should as soon
think of celebrating a turnip " (' Letters and
Journals,' iii. 337). In all pirated collections
already mentioned (see 3 above) except Galig-
nani 1835. In Bohn 1851.
7. " Reflections on Shipboard, by Lord Byron.
London : R. S. Kirby & W. Allason, 1816."-
Besides the title-poem this volume includes the
next three items on the present list. For a full
description of all four see the forthcoming article
already referred to. The ' Reflections ' appar-
ently obtained no circulation whatsoever.
8. ' The Poet Refuses Consolation. '—The
second piece in ' Reflections ' ; apparently never
reprinted entire.
9. « The Birth of Hope.' The third piece in
'Reflections' ; apparently never reprinted entire.
10. ' The Poet Moralizes on Waterloo.' — The
fourth piece in ' Reflections ' ; apparently never
reprinted entire. On these four pieces see
further Kolbing, Englische Studien, xxvi. 76 f.
11. ' JBnigma ' (H). " ' Twas whispered in
heaven, 'twas muttered in hell." — A discussion
of the authorship of this piece was carried on in
' N. & Q.,' First Series, vol. v. According to
B. P. (p. 522) it was written by Miss Fanshawe
in 1816 in an alburn (which ' D.N.B.' says is still
in existence). J. Sansom, reprinting the
' JEnigma ' on I (see 12 below), asks : " How
came Miss Fanshawe's enigmas to be attributed
to Lord Byron?" (First Series, v. 427). This
question remains unanswered. The author of
this, by far the most famous poem in the " Byron
Apocrypha," was Catherine Maria Fanshawe,
not "Harriet" as E. H. Coleridge calls her.
The piece was apparently first ascribed to Byron
in " Three Poems, not included in the Works of
Lord Byron. London : Effingham Wilson, 1818."
(The other two pieces are genuine.) From there
it got into W. Clark's edition of ' The Wai/.,'
1821 ; the ' Works,' Moses Thomas, Philadelphia,
1820 ; and into numerous later piracies. It is
not in Galignani 1835, but is in Bohn 1851.
12. ' JEnigma ' (I). — This enigma was not so
widely ascribed to Byron as that on H. It
occurs in Galignani 1831, and (which is note-
worthy) Galignani 1835. It is not in Bohn
1851. For the text of this piece see ' N. & Q.,'
First Series, v. 427.
13. ' The Burial of Sir John Moore.'— This
famous poem can be brought into the compass
of this list only by stretching definitions. The
single edition of Bvron's Works into which it
seems to have intruded is that of H. L. Broenner,
Frankfort O.M., 1829. Note, however, the dis-
agreeable incident recorded in Medwin's ' Con-
versations ' (p. 75 of edition published by Wilder
& Campbell, New York, 1824) when the poem
was read in Byron's presence, and after- it had
been much praised Byron did not deny the
authorship of it. Medwin prints it entire and
ascribes it to Byron, saying that after the poet
had himself praised it so highly he could
not admit outright that it was his own com-
position.
14. " Lord Byron's Pilgrimage to the Holy
Land . A Poem .... To which is added The
Tempest. A Fragment. London : J. Johnston,
1817." — For Byron's repudiation, and for the
proceedings to obtain an injunction against this
fraudulent publication, see ' Letters and Journals,'
iv. 9 f. The injunction was granted ; hence a
second edition, published the same year, had on
the title merely ' A Pilgrimage,' &c. The title
piece is in two cantos and is written in heroic
couplets. The pilgrim's name is Flavius. He
journeys through the Mediterranean, moralizing
on the various countries and cities that he passes
by, and occasionally, seizing his harp, he relieves
himself of very mediocre lyrics. He does not
arrive in the Holy Land until the second canto.
The -promptness with which an injunction was
obtained against this volume, together with its
inherent worthlessness, served to prevent its
obtaining (in this unlike Johnston's previous
hoax) any circulation as by Lord Byron.
15. ' The Tempest. A Fragment.' — See 14
above. This piece is in octosyllabic couplets in
the manner of ' The Giaour.' " The theme is the
escape of one mysterious stranger from a ship-
wreck ; the stranger afterwards dies in the arms
of a friendly leech, who hears his dying words and
could tell strange tales, an he would. This poem
apparently obtained no circulation.
16. " Leon to Annabella. An Epistle after the
Manner of Ovid. . . .London : Mac John, Raymur
& Co.," n.d. (1818 ? — it belongs to Byron's
Venetian period). — This rare little piece of
disreputableness is hard to come by. A copy is
in the library of Mr. J. P. Morgan, through whose
courtesy I have been able to examine it. For a
description of it see my article on ' The Pamphlets
of the Byron Separation ' mentioned above. It
was reprinted with 'Don Leon ' (see 22 below)
in 1866. Note that " Leon " is merely Noel spelt
backwards.
128. V. MAY, 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
115
*17. ' Childe Harold's Pilgrimage to the Dead
1 "Sea ; Death on the Pale Horse ; and other
Poems.' London : 1818. — A copy of this book
Is in the British Museum. I have not yet been
able to obtain sight of a copy. It is in none of
the large libraries in the United States. Byron
expressly repudiates the second piece in his
4 Reply to Blackwood's Magazine,' March 15,
1820 (' Letters and Journals,' iv. 474-5).
18. ' ThQ Vampyre, a, Tale.' London : Sher-
wood, Neely & Jones, 1810. — Quickly repudiated
by Byron (' Letters and Journals,' iv. 286) and
acknowledged by Polidori.
19. ' Lines found in Lord Byron's Bible.'—
'These eight lines are by Sir Walter *Scott (' The
Monastery,' chap. xii.). They may actually have
been found copied out by Byron. Apparently
they were first ascribed to him in the ' Life,
Writings,' &c., iii. 414. The piece is among
the " attributed poems " in Galignani 1826 ; but
.1 have found it in no other collection by Byron.
SAMUEL C. CHEW.
Bryn Mawr College, Pennsylvania.
(To be concluded.)
SHAKESPEARIANA.
THE GERM or MALVOLIO. — In ' The Arte
of English Poesie ' (book iii. chap. xxiv. ),
printed by Richard Field in 1589, the
unknown author observes : —
" And all singularities or affected parts of a
man's behaviour seem undecent, as for a man to
march or jet in the streets more stately, or to look
more solemnly, or to go more gaily and in other
colours or fashioned qarments than another of the
same degree and estate."
The author of ' Twelfth Night ' must have
had that passage in his mind in shaping
Malvolio. The steward puts himself intc
" the trick of singularity ." Maria alludes t<
him as " an affectioned ass." She discovers
him " practising behaviour to his own
shadow " (V. ii.). Towards Sir Toby am
his companions Malvolio puts on a stateh
and solemn bearing, " quenching his familia
smile with an austere regard of control.'
Fabian actually applies the verb " jet " t<
illustrate his affected carriage : —
" O, peace ! Contemplation makes a rare
turkey-cock of him. How he jets under his
advanced plumes ! " — II. v.
To the Countess, however, he comes gaily
and with a ridiculous boldness, continually
smiling and kissing his hand (III. iv.) — a
contract to the "sad face and reverend
carriage like some sir of note, and so forth,"
with which he thinks to impress those of, as
he imagines, inferior elements.
As for the " other colours or fashioned
garments " referred to in the ' Arte,' every -
>ody knows that he appears before the
Countess " in yellow stockings and cross-
gartered, a fashion she detests."
^ It is merely the sight of means to go above
lis estate which incites him to ridiculous
sxtremes, and leads him to construct any-
hing as a point in favour of his obsession,
n the Countess's command, " Let this
ellow be looked to," he finds significance in
.he term " fellow " : " Not Malvolio, nor
rfter my degree, but ' fellow.' '
W. L. Rushton, in ' Shakespeare and
' The Arte of English Poesie," ' proves how
ihoroughly conversant Shakespea're was
,vith the contents of this remarkable book,
and especially demonstrates that the poet,
n his use of a figure of rhetoric or form of
verse described in the ' Arte,' constantly
drags in some unusual word or expression
employed in the passage which the mysteri-
ous author gives to illustrate that particular
figure. So far as I am aware, however, this
evidence as to the origin of Malvolio' s
" singularities " is quite new.
R. L. EAGLE.
'HAMLET/ I. iv. 36-8 (12 S. iv. 211;
v. 4). — May I add a fresh solution to the
existent mass ?
H. K. ST. J. S.'s third suggestion is that
the printer may have set from dictation.
I have had over fifty years' intimacy with
printing, and no printing office from the
first ever worked in siich a doubly expensive
and objectless way. Hiring one printer to
save another the trouble of reading his
copy would assure early bankruptcy. We
have only to consider how the words looked
to the eye, not sounded to the ear. This
debars several explanations.
" Esil," implying actual spoiling of sub-
stance, contradicts the explicit meaning of
the passage, which applies only to what
others think, not to what in fact is.
Their virtues else
Shall in the general censure take corruption
From that particular fault.
That is, not that the fault has actually
corrupted the man, but tha»t people think
it has. I agree fully that " eale " is a
most improbable form of " e'il." Shake-
speare, writing for Londoners, would hardly
u?e this Scotticism, anyway, or feel the
need (felt nowhere else) of helping out his
rhythm with it, as H. K. ST. J. S. justly
says.
It has been my habit for many years,
often with surprising success, when I wished
to decipher a hopelessly meaningless piece
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 S. V. MAY, 1919.
of printing or typewriting, to scribble it
carelessly with pen or pencil, and see what
it might have been mistaken for. In this
case the very first trial produced results
quite unexpected : confirming the oldest
emendation of one word, and suggesting
for the others something unthought of by
any one, yet more satisfactory than any.
Here is our " eale " : —
Obviously, this is " base," as Theobald
with his usual sagacity divined — or perhaps
discovered by the same process. But
another consideration, which had struck
me before trying this experiment,
strengthens it. In old usage only one class
of substances are ever called "noble"
to wit, metals ; and the regular antithesis
was " base." Men did not speak of noble
and base liquors or bread or cloth, but of
pure and adulterated, or honest and frau-
dulent, or coarse and fine. The former
terms were taken from alchemy, a fertile
theme of interest and literary capital in
the Elizabethan time, and it would be
exactly in Shakespeare's fashion to annex
a bit *of its terminology, and in addition
these terms had passed into popular use.
Aside from the fact that some explana-
tions of " of a doubt " conflict with my first
principle, none of them satisfy any one but
their authors, and none explain at all the
intensive " own " in the next line. Here is
my scrawl : —
--^---^L^^^
I read this,
Doth all the noble substance oft divert [diuert]
To his own scandal.
That is, " Turns his very nobility into his
own scandal " : " makes the volume of his
noble substance the measure of his public
disrepute." Here "own" is not only
natural, but alm6st indispensable : the
meaning is shorn of its strength without it.
True or not, this leaves no raw edges of
unsatisfied meaning, and has no sophistica-
tion or straining. FORREST MORGAN.
Hartford, Conn.
There is little^doubt that in 'Hamlet,'
I. iy. 36-8, a process in cheesemaking is
indicated.
A piece of dried and salted stomach of a-,
calf (the caul) was steeped in lukewarm
water overnight ; the liquid rennet (about
half a pint) was then mixed with the milk,
which slowly clouts or clots. The solid
part, the clot, clout, or clod (hence clot or
clouted cream : see ' Friar of Orders Grey ')r
sinks, and instead of a tub or vat of nice-
pure white milk, there is seen a greenish,.,
unpleasant -looking fluid.
The dram of caul fulfils its mission-
curds, clots, or clouts the milk — and leaves
a residue of which, to judge from its appear-
ance, the dram is ashamed.
This is an old-fashioned way of cheese-
making in vogue in Shakespeare's time, and
the simile would be generally understood.
The dram of* caul, the pure milk, the-
clotting or clouting, and the residue which
scantles or scandalizes the dram when the
result is seen, all hang together logically.
OSWALD COCKS.
Derby.
I was interested in H. R. D.'s emendation
of this passage. I have always taken
" eale " to connote something the opposite
of " noble," and thus I think it is possibly
a mistake for " base." I take the whote
passage to mean that a little corruption
spoils the purity of the whole, and that the-
adulteration leads to an additional count
against the cause of corruption. For this
emendation one has of course no other
authority than one's own idea of sense.
RICHMOND NOBLE.
SHAKESPEARE : A SURVIVAL OF AUGURY
(12 S. v. 5). — The subject of the magpie as a
bird of omen was discussed in ' N. & Q.'
nearly thirty-two years ago (see 7 S. iii. 119,
188, 298, 414, 524). Various and extended
rhymes as applied to the bird were recorded,,
but the following seems to be the one most
largely used : —
One for sorrow,
Two for mirth,
Three for a wedding,
And four for a birth.
There appear to have been many methods
in use for averting the catastrophe of sorrow.
Some aver that the sight of four birds
prognosticates death, while others continue
the above lines as follows : —
Five for a christening,
Six for a death,.
Seven's heaven, eight is hell,
And nine's the devil his ane sel.
The last two words certainly smack of a~
Scottish origin. JOHN T. PAGE
Long Itchington, Warwickshire.
12IS. V. MAY, 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
117
THE CORRESPONDENCE OF RICHARD
EDWARDS, 1669-79.
<See 12 S. iii. 1, 44, 81, 122, 161, 205, 244,
262, 293, 323, 349, 377, 409, 439, 470, 498 ;
iv. 39, 96, 151, 209, 267, 321 ; v. 33.)
LETTER XCVI.
Samuel Bullivant to Richard Edwards.
(O.C. 3772.)
Singee* March 30th 1673
3Vlr Richard Edwards
and loving Friend
Yours of the 19th past by Mr
^Carpenter I received with the 2 Shashest
and one peice of Mulmull,J for which I
returne you many thankes and hope when
you meet with a ps. ord[inary] Cossas,J you
will remember mee, also to send a silke
bridle and 2 sett of silke strings as in my last
to you I requested. Pray Sir, when any
Cossid comes from your Factory hither, bee
pleased to send a little parsley and Lettice
seed, Colwort seed, or any other seeds that
.are procurable with you or the Dutch of
Europe sorts, having great occation here
'for a few of them ; those I brought up with
mee were spoiled.
Pray send mee 5 or 6 more of those ordinary
•girdles of severall colours.
I have not more at present save my
respects to your selfe Etca. Freinds, and
subscribe
Your reall Freind and servant
SAM: BULLYVANT
P.S. pray when you see the Dutch, present
•my respects to them
Idem S. B.
1 [Endorsed] For Mr Richard Edwards
Merchant In Cassimbuzar
LETTER XCVII.
Edward Littleton to Richard Edwards.
(O.C. 3773.)
Hugly the primo April! 1673
Mr Richard Edwards
Esteemed friend
Sir
Yours of the 6 february longe since
-received, where see you had mine of the
^ primo ditto, § and that had received the
* Singbiya. See Letter LXXXIII.
t Turbans, turban-cloths.
t Malmal, "khassa. See Letters VI., XCIV.
§ See Letter LXXXVII. As stated before
(see Letter LXXIX.), no further drafts of
Edwards 's replies to his correspondents have
fceen traced.
Palankee, which am glad of. Mine came
very well to hand, and for your care therein
return you many thankes. The Amount of
what you Bought att the outcry* have
received of Mr Bugden. Opportunities of
advise hence have of late beene Somewhat
Scarce, which hath beene Some Occasion of
my tardinesse herein. Noe more, Save
tender of all Service, rest
Sir Your Assured friend and ready Servant
EDWD LITTLETON
[Endorsed] To Mr Richard Edwards
Merchant In Cassumbuzar
LETTER XCVIII.
Thomas Pace to Richard Edwards.
(O.C. 3774.)
Ballasore Aprill the 1st [1673]
Mr Richard Edwards
Respected friend
Nothing of much Importance Occur-
ring, I have beene Slack in writing, which I
guess may be the Same reason that I have
not heard from you Since my last.f Which
hope you received and therein my thanks
for your Care in providing those things I
desired of you, which that they are not yet
received I Cannot Impute in the least to any
defect on your part, but that it might be
Some punctilio, $ Either that he with whom
you left them [line illegible] If you Suppose
there may doubts be[illegible] them Con-
cerriing the proceed of those things hither,
that you would by the next to Hugly cleer
[? them] And be pleased, if it be in your
power to Effect it, that they may Come
downe by the first Conveyance, which when
it maybe is uncertain, for the ketch Arrivall§
that was first Ordred downe is now forbidden
On [sic] fear of the Dutch, The ne[ws] of
whose transactions both here in In[dia and
Eu]rope will, I suppose, Come to yo[u by]
other Conveyances. So I shall decline [? sup-
ply]ing you with any thing of that nature.
Your most ready fri[end to] serve you
THO: PACE
[Endorsed] To Mr Richard Edwards
Merchant In Cassambazar
* The auction of William Bagnold's effects.
See Letter LXXXVIT.
t See Letter XCIII.
J Petty formality.
§ One of the Company's sloops which plied up.
and down the Hugli river between the factories
of Balasor and Hugli.
118
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 8. V. MAY, 1919.
LETTER XCIX.
Edward Eeade W Richard Edwards.
(O.C. 3777.)
Ramsundrapore* April 10th 1673.
Mr Richard Edwards
Esteemed Good friend,
I met yours of the 1st Current in this
place, and should be very glad to heare
oftner from you and readily serve you in
any thing, and am sorry you are not
acquainted with the Cossids departure.
I am glad you had the Tobyt and will
make good for it 4 r. to Mr Bagnolds small
account, and though that evened ours then,
yet I am now in your debt and likely to bee
more, you haveirig, I thanke you, sent mee
strings' and promised to get the ps. silke
ready, for cost whereof please to order
which way you will be satisfyed and it shall
be done, and at all times a greater Summ
disbursed to serve your occasions here.
Mr Clavell desiers to bee remembered to
you and bids mee tell you he is almost bare
footed, and the Slippers now sent Mr
GylliamJ puts him in mind of it. My
respects unto you is all now from
Your loveing friend to Serve you
EDW: READE
[Endorsed] For Mr Richard Edwards
Merchant Tn Cassumbuzar.
LETTER 0.
Edmund Bugden to Richard Edwards.
(O.C. 3780.)
Hugly, 13th April 73.
Mr Richard Edwards
Respected Freind,
Yours of the 3d current with the
2 pr. Cott strings and six breeches strings,
have received, for which and the trouble of
my Shooes makeing, returne you hearty
thankes for, giveing you Credit for them.
I have received of Mr Peacock only 35 ru.
as yet. When receive more, shall, according
to your order, if firide promt, lay it out and
remit it you. Pepper is here 16 r. Per
maund, Copper 40 ru., Tinn, hear of none
* Ramchandrapur, the Ramchundapour of
Rennell's ' Atlas of Bengal ' (1778). It was
situated about 25 miles east of Hugli, and seems
now to be represented by the Raghunatpur of
the Indian Atlas (1907).
t Jug or mug.
{ Stephen Gylliam (whose name is variously
spelt Guillym, Guilyam, Gwillham,and Gwilliams)
was elected writer on Oct. 24, 1671. He fell a
victim to the epidemic of June to September,
1677.
come in this Mallacca ship that is come of
the Dutch ; Copper little ; Tutariauge,* a
Quantity, which beleeve may be Procured
for 34 ru., which if you desire, T will Procure-
The good news, thankes be to God, wee-
have received in breife fro' Coast, but not
without some bad,f shall not rehearse to you,
knowing, if you have it not fro' Ballasore,
Mr Vincent hath, so you will have it, and
hope ere long more largely fro' your residence,.
By way of Agra ; so with mine and Wifes.
kinde respects to you, I remain
Yours to his power
EDMD. BUGDEN
My kinde respects to Mr Marshall &ca
freinds.
[Endorsed] To Mr Richard Edwards
Merchant In Cassambazar
R. C. TEMPLE.
[We regret that the demands on the space of
'N. & Q.' prevent us from publishing more of this
correspondence.]
NEW COLLEGE, OXFORD. — The repent elec-
tion of Mr. John Burdon Sanderron Haldane
to an ordinary Fellowship at New College
induces me to note the remarkable fact
of a father and son being both Fellows of
the same College. Mr. J. B. S. Haldane
was a scholar of New College, and took a
first class in Mathematical Moderations in
1912, and a first class in Classics (Finals) in
1914. Dr. John Scott Haldane's career
need not be set out. I am not aware of
any similar instances, but possibly readers
can supply them. Incidentally, as an odd
sequence of names, New College possesses
an Abraham (an undergraduate), a Joseph
(the well-known bursar), and a Jacob (a
scholar) — a most interesting series.
OBSERVER.
LITTLE MONTAGUE COURT, LITTLE
BRITAIN. — The clearance of this survival
of olden London is impending, and it has
certain features of interest worth recording
before its site is obliterated by a modern
building. The name celebrates the man-
sion of Lord Montague that originally
occupied the east side of Little Britain.
The adjoining Cox's Court was prior to
July, 1899, Montague Place.
Most noticeable are the irregular shape
and successive angles on its southern side,
* Port, tutenaga, spelter.
f Bugden seems to be referring to the victory
claimed by the English at South wold Bay, the
bad news being the loss of the Royal James and
death of the Earl of Sandwich.
12 S. V. MAY, 1919. |
NOTES AND QUERIES.
119
marking the varying lengths of sites com-
mencing originally in Great Montague Court
(Rocque 1746, Strype ed. 1720), which was
•removed in some alterations of the frontages
'for the eastern arm of Little Britain. Several
of these angles have inset stone brackets
which possibly were originally carved, and,
therefore, are worth preserving, but suc-
cessive lime-washings have altogether hidden
their original form.
The end house has peculiar oblong upper
windows, and no doubt had a cornice of
considerable size, as the top of the wall is now
peculiarly featureless. On the left of the
'Court a timber-roofed chamber with brick
floor is identified by local tradition as the
moi'tuary of St. Bartholomew's Hospital.
In my earlier recollections of the Court
it was occupied by some small industries,
-and the residents of the large end house
beautified it by window - gardening, &c.
Unfortunately, in an a,ir-raid an incendiary
bomb dropped in the neighbourhood brought
fire and disaster to this quaint corner, and
it has not since been inhabited.
ALECK ABRAHAMS.
RlPON SPURS AND OTHER GUARDED
SPURS. — There is a widely circulated belief
that the craftsmen of Ripon in the heyday
of their fame— between 1610 and 1710—
produced among other masterpieces spurs so
made tha£ they revealed their rowels only
when pressed against the flanks of the
rider's horse. This belief was encouraged
by the late Mr. T. C. Heslington, author of
the ar-ticle on ' Rippon Spurs ' in Mr.
William Andrews's ' Bygone Yorkshire,'
quoted in ' N. & Q.' (8 S. hi. 146) ; but it
proves upon inquiry to be without any
foundation in fact!
The origin of this fallacy is apparently to
be found in a pair of spurs formerly in Mr.
Heslington's own collection. He describes
them on p. 25 of his paper on ' Ancient Spurs,
and their Manufacture in Ripon ' (1883), as
-a " pair of silver plated spurs with spring
rowel guards. . . .said to have been made by
Alderman John T-arry," the last Ripon
spurrier, who died in 1798. He, however,
;adds that they are " marked ' Chester's
patent,' and I cannot find a Ripon spurrier
of that name."
An examination of the specifications in
the Patent Office reveals no patentee of the
name of Chester ; but a Thomas Cheston,
plater, of Birmingham, took out a patent
(no. 1549) in 1786 for an automatic spur-
rowel guard, and Mr. Heslington's spurs were
210 doubt his work. Rust or faulty stamping
would easily account for Mr. Heslington's
misreading of the name. • The present writer
is unaware of the exact construction of these
spurs, as Cheston' s specification is without
drawings ; but apparently the guard was of
what is now termed the " sleeve " variety,
and possessed an advantage over other con-
temporary spring guards — those of Richard
Ireland Thurgood (pat. no. 1538) and Joseph
Antley (pat. no. 1541), both patented in
1786 — in that it might be removed at will,
and the spur worn with or without it, without
interfering with either the utility or artistic
appearance of the spur.
There is no discoverable evidence thab
there was an automatic means of protecting
the rowel or other stimulus of earlier date
than Thurgood' s patent, though many
devices whereby the rowel could be tem-
porarily "blinded," and so prevented from
doing damage to the dress of the wearer
when dismounted, are to be seen on spurs
of the eighteenth century. This rendered
them peculiarly suitable for use by ladies,
but in every case the mechanism was clumsy
and had to be adjusted by hand.
Devices with a similar object were in use
from the fourteenth century. Some such
mechanical contrivance may have distin-
guished the >l esperons a femme " of fifteenth -
Century inventories ; and the " long spurs "
of the same period were often provided with
special rowels, or, according to some writers,
a guard over the rowel and neck of the spur,
to prevent entanglement in the housings then
in fashion. At one period clerics wore short
prick-spurs to avoid damage to their gowns
when mounted ; while in the seventeenth
and eighteenth centuries the " eperon a la
chartreuse " was relegated to the use of
doctors, barbers, cures, and monks, on
account of the ease with which it could be
removed from the boot. Why barbers
should be included it is difficult to see, unless
the origin of this privilege is mediaeval, for
the costume of barbers at this late date did
not usually include a gown.
CHARLES BEARD.
" NOS HABITAT, NON TARTARA." At 11 S.
ix. 429 J. K. asked for the source of —
Nos habitat, non tartara, sed nee sidera caeli,
Spiritus in nobis, qui viget, ilia facit,
which he had found at the end of the
introduction to a German translation of
Cornelius Agrippa's ' Occult Philosophy,'
published at Stuttgart in 1855.
There can be no doubt that the writer of
this introduction took the distich from a
letter of Agrippa to Aurelius ab Aqua-
120
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 8. V. MAY, 1919.
pendente, Sept. 24, 1527, Epist., lib. v., 14
part ii. p. 905 of his 'Opera,' Lyons, s.a.
In this letter Agrippa explains to his oorre
epondent that books on magic, astrology,
alchemy, and the philosopher's stone are
not to be understood literally, but are to be
interpreted by a spirit within us : "In no bis,
inquam, est ille mirandorum operator ";
and then comes the couplet in question.
EDWARD BEXSLY.
A LETTER FROM THE " KINGMAKER. "-
The following is preserved among the
archives at Arbury, co. Warwick : —
Worshipful and withal my hert Bight interly
welbeloved cousyn I gret you well and thanke
you as hertely as I can of yr good zele and hertely
cousyninge to me showed at al tymes in many
and diverse behalves And in especial now lat' for
ye sendyng of your men to me my last going to
the p'liament wherein you did me Eight thonkful
service and Eight grete worship c[er]tifyng you
that well late the king hath desired and charged
me to be with hymm at Saynt Albones on Satur-
day next com'yng accompaigned wl suche a
feliship as that I may and be content in cas
the commones of Kent wel be rebel and be not to
abay the lawes, that then I with my feliship to be
assistyng and advantyng uppon his p sonne that
by the grace of our god lord we schal be of power
to w*stand ther malice and evil wil wherefore
I pray you with al my hert with suche p'sonnes
as ye now arays and s'cure ye wel send to me at
Warrewyke yr to be on Wednesday at nyght next
com'ynge in sembleablewyse I wol and shal do
to you at suche tyme ye desyre for yor worship
And thus ye wol do as my special and hertely
trust in you And our Lord kepe you writen in
hast at Warricke the viij day of June.
(Signature) EICHARD, EBL OP WARREWYKE.
To ye worshipful and withal myne hert Eight
interly welbeloved Cousyn ye Lord Ferreres of
Charteley.
J. HARVEY BLOOM.
IRELAND : AN EARLY ITALIAN MAP. — In
his interesting paper on ' Early Italian Maps
of Ireland,' published in the Proceedings of
the Royal Irish Academy, vol. xxx. Section C,
1913, pp. 411-26, Mr. Westropp has given a
list of Irish place-names occurring on early
Italian maps from 1300 to 1600. One of the
maps used by him (ibid., p. 409) is that of
Conte di Ottomanno Freducci of Ancona,
dating from 1497, of which a facsimile was
given by Nordenskiold ('Periplus,' Eng.
trans., 1897, plate xxii.). It has apparently
escaped Mr. Westropp's attention that
another map drawn by Conte Freducci — a
chart of the Atlantic including part of the
New World, dating from 1514 or 1515
(Nordenskiold, ibid., p. 64) — has been re-
produced in photographic facsimile by
jEugenio Casanova ( ' La Carta Nautica di I
Conte Freducci,' Firenze, 1824, " Fubbl. del
R.Ist. di Studi Superiori "). This map is
preserved in the R. Archivio di Stato in
Firenze.* Ireland is not named on the map,
but the coast-line, which is coloured in blue,,
bears the following names, reading from
North to East, South, West, North. I have
attempted with the aid of Mr. Westropp's
lists (loc. cit., pp. 411-26) to identify these
names so far as possible. The identifications
given by Casanova (loc. cit., pp. 65-66) are
frequently wrong.
p. ros (Port-rush).
monet (Bonamargy).
verforda (Lame Lough).
chenocfric (Carrickfergus).
caret'orda (Carlingford).
darche (perhaps Greeuore).
c. stet (not identified by Westroppf)..
ordes (Swords).
irlandellea (Irleand's Eye).
arconi (not identified by Westropp).
vicello (Wicklow).
renas (perhaps Eosslare).
ocsorda (Wexford).
elebano (Bannow).
fredit (Fcthard).
condab (Tower of Hook).
ertarnoi (perhaps Tramore).
ormam (Ardraore).
n.inart (Ardigna Head).
valicot (Ballycottin Bay).
adelfronda (Kinsale). «
c. veio (Old Head).
camelat (Timoleague).
donborg (perhaps Eoss Carbery).
c. cavcna (perhaps Killaconcnegh).
oroxei (Dorsey Island).
boreal (Iveragh Barony).
dru6rt (Valentia Island).
ledeng (Dingle). K
s. brand an (Mount Brandon). ,. ..
c. astronbre (Kerry Head).
lamerich (Limerick).
ocam (Oranmore).
lacheric (Clew Bay Islands).
bordellai (Burrishoole).
coiniadclla (nerhaps Teeling).
y. tnconel (tTirconnell Isles).
To the west of Ireland are the " Fantastic-
Islands " marked " bra9il " and " las maidas."'
on which see Westropp, Proc. E.I.Acad.,.
vol. xxx. Section C, 1912, p. 241.
It is worthy of note, as showing how great
bhe intercourse between Ireland and the
[talian maritime states must 'have been in
those times, that whereas there are 37 names
recorded on the Irish coasts, there are but
48 on those of England, and 2 only on those
of Scotland, which appears as an island.
M. ESPOSITO.
* For a full description of the map, with detail*
as io do.te and personality of the cartographer,,
cf. Casanova, pp. 1-52.
t Ibid., p. 423. Casanova (p. 65) give*
" Stet-head."
12 S. V. MAY, 1919. ]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
121
" FIRE OUT." (See 10 S. vii. 308 ;
viii. 37, 454 ; 11 S. i. 405.)— Add the following
quotation, in which the meaning of the
phrase appears to be not unlike the modern
meaning : —
" Enter Two Gentlemen.
1 Gent. I would fain go in, but I have spent all
my money.
2 Gent. No matter, they shall not know so
•much till we get in, and then let me alone, I'll
not out till I be fir'd out."
This occurs in Act III. (? sc. iii. : the scenes
^are not divided by numbers) of ' The Royal
King and Loyal Subject,' by Thomas
Heywood, printed 1637, " but it is to be
•observed, that it is spoken of in the Epilogue
<is an old play, and fitted to some former
season" See ' Old Plays ; being a Con-
tinuation of Dodsley's Collection,' 1816,
vol. vi. p. 276 (misprinted 267) and p. 221.
It may be that "fir'd out " in the above
extract implies a meaning somewhat similar
•to that in " Get you from my door, you
beggarly companions, or I'll wash you hence
with hot scalding water " (p. 275). This
threat, however, is not addressed to the
" Two Gentlemen," although in the same
scene. : . ROBERT PIERPOINT.
COINS OF THE ANCIENT BRITONS. — In
presenting to the Trustees of the British
^Museum the magnificent collection of ancient
British and other coins made by his father,
the late Sir John Evans, K.C.B. (which
ai umbers some 1,700 pieces, and had long
been famous as one of the most complete
of its kind in any cabinet, public or private),
'Sir Arthur Evans, F.B.A., says : —
" I have felt that our National Museum had
•the highest claim to the possession of what, in
fact, is a Unique illustration of an interesting
•chapter of our ' island story ' — the first satis-
factory record of which, largely based on this
•collection, was indeed supplied by my father's
work on ' The Coinage of the Ancient Britons.'
How few realize that a century and a half before
the Roman Conquest the early Belgic invaders
had not only brought Britain within the range of
classical influences, but had actually introduced a
graduated coinage derived from that of Philip
of Macedon. No one, certainly, who has not
-studied the numismatic evidence can have any
idea of the extent to which, with ' the felt
approach ' of Imperial Rome, these influences had
developed before the days of the Claudian Con-
quest. I do not expect that many of those
acquainted with Shakespeare's ' Cymbeline '
realize that such a prince actually existed in
ancient Britain under not very different con-
ditions of palace life and foreign relations, still
'less that he and his colleagues in the British pre-
decessors of Colchester, St. Albans, and other
towns were striking coins with finely executed
•Greece-Roman types and Latin inscriptions. At
£he present time, indeed, these first advertisements
of a British claim to enter the circle of civilized
nations may have a certain interest even for those
who are not archaeologists. In the early Belgic
issues on British soil, too, they may find a season-
able reminder of the permanence of the geo-
graphical ties that bind us to our continental
neighbours, which are still of such vital conse-
quence to us after the lapse of over two millennia."
Me.
WESTMINSTER HALL ROOF. — A curious
superstition has clung to this building
through the centuries, which I have not
heard applied to any other, though presum-
ably this is not the only structure in England
employing Irish timber. The printed source
apparently is to be found in a small quarto
tract, pointing out the consequences of the
p]ague5 by Benjamin Spenser, entitled
" Vox civitatis ; or, London's complaint
against her children in the covntrey, 1625."
It runs : —
" Westminster Hall so full of cobwebs, though
(as they say) it be built of Irish wood, where no
spider will endure. It may be so, for all the
spiders are below." ^
WM. JAGGARD, Capt.
Officers' Mess, Repatriation Camp, Winchester.
A WALTON RELIC. (See 9 S. vii. 188, 410,
495.)_The relic referred to at above refer-
ences has been recently sold, and consider-
able correspondence has taken place in The
Times, with the result that the J. D. Ander-
son of 1646 has been traced by Mr. Marston
of The Fishing Gazette to the Rev. J. Dauncey
Anderson, who was many years Vicar of
Thornton Watlass, near Bedale, Yorks,
and died May, 1900. The initials I. W.
probably are those of the maker John Wade
of about 1800; he was a famous maker of
these leather creels.
It may be desirable to record this in the
pages of ' N. & Q.' for the benefit of future
collectors of relics of Walton.
R. J. FYNMORE.
INTERMENT IN GRAVES BELONGING TO
OTHER FAMILIES. — A question was asked
at 10 S. i. 9 as to whether this practice is
sometimes permitted, and no instances are
given in reply. In transcribing the Deane
Parish Registers for the Lancashire Parish
Register Society, I came across the following
under date 1660 : —
" Jony Milles of Windyates in Westhaughton,
widow, buried in that place in the Church where
her husband Gyles Milles was by leave of their
neighbour Barnaby Markland, but hereafter
desireing no further in that kind, according to
former agreement made at the tyme of the
buriall of Jane Milles their daughter."
ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
122
NOTES AND QUERIES. t,2s.v MAT.19ia
(Qwrus.
WE must request correspondents desiring in-
formation on family matters of only private interest
to affix their names and addresses to their queries,
in order that answers may be sent to them direct.
BRISTOL WILLS MISSING. — We have lost
from our Cathedral records a parcel of old
wills dating round the year 1500. The
parcel contains 49 leaves. Will you be so
good as to make known our loss, caused
through the sudden death of a Bristol
gentleman who was indexing our records ?
The parcel was not found in his house, and
we can only surmise that some one had
borrowed it. Several attempts to discover
these wills have so far failed.
(Canon) J. G. ALFORD.
The Cathedral, Bristol.
BYRON'S BUST AT OXFORD. — Can any
one kindly tell me from what bust of the
poet in youth the beautiful cast in the
Oxford Public Library is copied ? I have
vainly endeavoured to find out at Oxford
the name of the sculptor who executed the
original, but my theory that it may be a
copy from Thorwald sen's famous work
remains unsubstantiated. Nor could I learn
where that portrait bust now is since Lady
Broughton (daughter of John Cam Hob-
house) bequeathed it to the King.
The supreme beauty, which Byron's con-
temporaries found so wonderful is better
conveyed in this noble young head than in
any other portrait known to me. Hence
my appeal to your readers for information-
which I could not obtain at the Oxford
Public Library, where one might have
hoped for it, considering the fame of both
the artist and the poet. Y. T.
R. S. SURTEES. — Could any of your
readers give me information concerning the
life of R. S. Surtees, author of ' Handley
Cross,' ' Sponge's Sporting Toiir,' &c. ?
The materials for a life of this gentleman
are extraordinarily small. That he was
born in 1803 ; was at Durham School, and
left in 1819; went into a solicitor's office in
London ; founded The New Sporting Maga-
zine in 1831, and was editor till 1836 ; was
Parliamentary candidate for Gateshead in
1837, but did not proceed to a poll ; was
High Sheriff for Durham in 1856, and died
at Brighton in 1864, constitutes almost all
that we know of him.
Mr. Ralph Nevill in his book ' Tlie Man
of Pleasure ' (Chatto & Windus, 1912),
pp. 138-9, speaks of him as at college. If
this is correct, which University was it,
and when ? The Fame gentleman in a-
book called ' The Merry Past ' speaks of
him (p. 88) as keeping hounds at Boulogne
somewhere about 1818-19. This surely is
an error ; he would only have been about
15 or 16 years of age.
I should be very glad of any information
as to his life at Brighton, or directions as
to where information could be obtained.
G. FENWICK.
The Hall, Higham Dykes, Newcastle-on-Tyne.
[The 'Diet. Nat. Biog.' devotes nearly three-
columns to Surtees, and supplies some additional
personal details. Various authorities are named
at the end of the article.]
GLADSTONE ON DANTE. — I am told that
an article entitled 'The Natural History of
Dante,' by the Right Hon. W. E. Gladstone,,
appeared in The Nineteenth Century. Tha
only clue I have as to the date of its publica-
tion is that it appeared just before Canon.
Vaughan's article on ' The Birds of Dante '
in The Churchman of May, 1894. If any of
your readers can tell me where I can obtain,
copies of either of these articles, I shall be
greatly obliged. In any case I shall welcome
details concerning the first mentioned.
HUGH S. GLADSTONE.
40 Lennox Gardens, S.W.I.
SIR FRANCIS ANDERSON'S DESCENDANTS.
— I seek genealogical details about the
descendants of John, Roger, George, Robert,.
Francis, and Thomas Ander.-on, eons of Sir
Francis Anderson (bapt. 1614) by his wife
Jane, dau. of John Denton of Barnard
Castle, Esq. Sir Francis was member of
Parliament for the borough of Newcastle-
on-Tyne in the " Healing Parliament."
Did any of the descendants of the sons-
mentioned above migrate to St. Petersburg ?
JAMES SETON- ANDERSON.
18 Culverden Down, Tunbridge Wells.
ENGLISH PARISHES IN 1705.— The Lambeth
Library is said to contain an interesting;
return of the state of the parishes of England
in 1705. Where can I see a description of
this return, indicating its scope, &c. ?
J. HAMBLEY ROWE, M.B.
ANGUISH STREET : " SCORES." — In the old
fishing town of Lowestoft is an Anguish
Street. Can it be that the street owes its
name to the grief of the fishermen's wives ^
bereaved so often by the ?.ea ? In Lowes -
toft, too, the steep narrow lanes (many of
which have steps) leading from the old
fishing town to the top of the hill are called
" Scores." What does the name mean ?
J. R. H.
12 S. V. MAY, 1919.]
KOTEJS AND QUERIES.
CAPT. PALLISER. — I should much like to
get into communication for historical pur-
poses with the representatives of Capt.
Palliser, \vho was distinguished for his
exploration work in Canada — crossing the
Rocky Mountains, &c.
DAVID Ross McCoRD.
McCord National Museum,
Temple Grove, Montreal.
SCOTCHMAN'S POST. — In walking over the
Horwich Moors recently I saw an iron post
which goes by this name, and which, I am
told, commemorates the murder of a
Scotchman (travelling bargee) which took
place many years ago. Particulars wil
oblige. J. W. S.
' THREE BLACK CROWS.' — Who wrote ' The
Three Black Crows ' ? C. V. D.
VICKERS FAMILY OF FULHAM. — John Vic
kers of Fulham, Middlesex, died 1672, hi>
wife's name being Margaret. They hac
four children : John, James, Jacob, anc
Mary. John died on the voyage home
from Balasor, Bengal. His wilf was dated
Feb. 19, 1073, and administration was
granted to his brother Jacob on Sent. 10
1673. •
Can any correspondent give additional
information, about this family or tell me
Margaret's maiden name ?
WM. JACKSON PIOOTT.
Manor House, Dunclrum, co. Down.
MAY. — Information is desired concerning
the following Mays who were educated at
Westminster School : —
1. Arthur, admitted in 1738, aged 11.
2. Florentius, admitted in 1745, aged 13.
3. Florentius, admitted in 1777.
4. Henry, who matriculated at Oxford
March 21, 1823, from Magd. Hall.
5. John, admitted in 1770.
6. Joseph, admitted in 1738, aged 8.
7. Rose, admitted in 1777.
8. Thoma?, admitted in 1817, aged 13.
9. William, son of Rose (or Roseherring)
May of Spanish Town, Jamaica, admitted
to Trin. Coll., Camb., in 1779.
G. F. R. B.
LABOUR-IN-VAIN STREET, SHAD WELL. —
What is the origin of this strange name ?
J. ARDAGH.
"TALKS ABOUT OLD LONDON." — Some
yon:-} ago a series of articles with this title
appeared in The Evening News. Any
pa-hlcular^ (including dates of first and last
a"; i ,'les) will be useful. J. ARDAGH.
C»~> Church Avenue, Drumcondra, Dublin.
MARLIPINS.— I have failed to find this
word in the ' New English Dictionary ' or
in any of the past series of ' N. & Q.' It is
apparently a Sussex word ; and an inn in
Shoreham, I am informed, bears the name
of " The Marlipins." What does it mean ?
Is it akin to " marlinspike " ? " Spike "
and " pin " in a mechanical contrivance are
easily interchangeable. Shoreham has for
centuries been a resort of seafaring men, and
nautical terms are apt to vary with time.
ALBAN DORAN.
The Athenaeum, S.W.I.
[The, Sussex Daily News of Jan. 22 of the present
year contained a long report of a paper by Mr.
Burton Green on Shoreham, in which he claimed
to have solved the riddle of the " Marlipins." He
stated that in 1367 John le Potere of New Shore-
ham devised " a stone-built corner tenement
called ' Mai duppine ' in the market-place " ;
and he traced the history of the building, tinder
the forms " Mai aduppnes," " Malappynn^s," &c.,
down to 1500. The Templars had a chapel at
Shoreham, the history of which M.r. Burton Green
also related ; and he argued that " Marleypins "
represents " Mai dubbia.ns," the name of the
meeting-place of the Templars.]
"THE LIGHT INVISIBLE."— The late Mgr.
R. H. Benson wrote a book with this name.
Mr. E. F. Benson in ' Up and Down ' seems
at p. 139 to ascribe the phrase to St. Paul : —
"What does St. Paul call it? 'The light
invisible,' isn't it? That is exactly descriptive.
' The light invisible, the uncreated light.' "
From whom does Mr. E. F. Benson really
quote ?
I had always assumed that Mgr. Benson
took the title of his book from Wordsworth's
The light that never was on sea or land,
The consecration and the poet's dream.
JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.
JOSEPH KNIBB, CLOCKMAKER. — On p. 181
of Mr. Arthur Hay den's ' Chats on Old
Clocks ' (T. Fisher Unwin, 1917) is figured a
lock by this maker, when in retirement at
Oxford, dated 1690 ; height 12 in., width
8 in., and depth 5 in. A very similar, but
probably earlier, clock by the same maker is
on the mantelpiece of the room in which I
am writing ; and, as several contributors to
N. & Q.' are interested in old clocks, it
may be permissible to give some particulars
n which it differs from the one delineated in
}he above work " by courtesy of Percy
Webster, Esq."
1. It has not got the scrollwork on the
sides of the frame.
2. It was made in London, but is undated.
3. It stands on brass feet, such as are
ound in lantern brais clocks of contem-
porary date.
124
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[128. V. MAY, 1919.
I 4. It has brass lattice-work at the sides.
5. It has IV, and not IIII. on the silver-
plated hour circle.
6. Its dimensions are 14 by 10 by 6 in.
7. It records the day of the month.
(This is seldom accurate.)
8. It has two bells for striking, and its
way of striking is, I think, unique. We will
call the two bells A and B. The clock strikes
on A for I, and on B for V. Thus IV is
struck A, B ; VII, B, A, A ; IX, A, B, B ;
XII, B, B, A, A.
I should like to hear of other old clocks
with IV on the dial, and with a similar
method of striking.
JOHN B. WAINEWBTGHT.
JOHN WINTER, DIAL-MAKEB. — In the
churchyard of Crosby, Ravensworth, West-
morland, is a sundial on a pedestal, bearing
the inscription "John Winter. Latd. 54.35.
A.D. 1724." Is anything known of this
man ? J. W. F.
REV. HENRY GUY, CHAPIAIN TO KING
CHARLES II. — He was still living in or
about 1706. Can any reader give any par-
ticulars about him ? J. W. F.
WILLIAM HENRY WILLS ON DR. DODD. —
In ' Glances back through Seventy Years '
(1893) Henry Vizetelly says (vol. i. p. 247)
that W. H. Wills
" wrote a successful play or two, one of which, on
the well-known incident of Dr. Dodd's conviction
for forgery, gave the author the opportunity of
introducing a score or two of notable personages
of the time, including George III., the Earl of
Chesterfield, Dr. Johnson, with Boswell dogging
his footsteps note-book in hand, Burke, Gold-
smith, Sir Joshua Reynolds, and even Jonathan
Wild and Blueskin. The piece was played at the
Surrey, and Vrfle, I remember, was great in the
principal comic part."
Can I be informed in what year, and where,
his apparently picturesque drama was
produced, and if it was printed ? Vizetelly
gives no clue to the date, but his attribution
to William Henry Wills (1810-80), and not
to William . Gorman Wills (1828-91), the
contemporary dramatist, is clear enough.
W. B. H.
ANDREWS AND HARDY FAMILIES. — I
should be grateful if any one could tell me
the Christian name and surname of the wife
of Capt. Charles Savery Andrews, 24th Regi-
ment of Foot, aide-de-camp to the Duke of
Kent while in Canada. His daughter
Frances Offley Andrews married as first wife
Sir Thomas Duffus Hardy, Keeper of
H.M. Records. LEONARD C. PRICE.
Essex Lodge, Ewell.
GOOD FRIDAY PLEASURE FAIRS. — Can any
reader supply a reference to sources of
information bearing on Good Friday other-
wise than a3 a day of religious commemora-
tion ? In at least three instances that have
come to my notice — i.e., at Marple (Cheshire),
Ramsbottom (Lanes), and Llanrwst (N.
Wales) — it has been the custom on this day
to hold a kind of pleasure fair on some
neighbouring high place, which is attended
by folk of the poorer (and therefore the more
conservative) sort. Sometimes the magni-
ficence of swingboats and " merry-go-
rounds " is attained ; but at Llanrwst there
is (or was) merely the setting-up of booths
or stalls for the sale of sweets or " fairings,"
at a remote and lofty spot in the woods, by
a class of folk who rarely visit such a spot at
ordinary times. W. P. ELIAS.
HON. JOHN SHAKESPEAR OF JAMAICA.—
Can any one give me information regarding
the Hon. John Shakespear, member of the
Legislature of Jamaica, and proprietor of
Hodges-Penn, St. Elizabeth's parish, in that
island ? JOHN SHAKESPEAR.
DERBY OF 1811.— WTiere can I get an
account of the race ? JQHN SHAKESPEAB.
c/o Grindlay & Co.,
54 Parliament Street. S.W.I.
PULESTON OF GRESFORD AND HANTS. — I
should like to trace the marriages of this
family. One John Puleston married
Katharine Cozens from Hants ; and Joan
Puleston married Joseph Flecker, M.D.
Are there any Puleston marriages, &c., in
parish registers ? (Mrs.) E. E. COPE.
Finchampstead, Berks.
EXCHANGE OF SOULS IN FICTION. — I shall
be glad to learn the titles of works of fiction,
in English, French, or Spanish, where the
plot of the story rests upon an exchange of
souls between two living persons, or as in the
case Mrs. W. K. Clifford uses in her new
novel, ' Miss Fingal.' In this case one
person dies, and the soul enters the body of
a friend. ARTEMISIA.
REV. DR. CLENOCK. — Information as to
this worthy and acknowledged' Welshman,
who was the first Rector of the English
Catholic College, Rome, will be esteemed.
WTiere and when was he born, and when did
tie die ? ANEURIN WILLIAMS.
Menai View, North Road, Carnarvon.
[The account in the ' D.N.B.' says only that
Maurice Clenocke or Clynog was " a native of
Wales." He " retired about 1580 to Rouen,
where he embarked on board a ship bound for
Spain, and was drowned at sea."]
12 S. V. MAY, 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
125
"BAYNINGE" AND " BLANKETT," OBSO-
LETE NAMES OF BIRDS. — In the thirteenth
volume of Archveologia (1800, pp. 315-89)
there is given a curious " Breviare " of direc-
tions for the ordering of a nobleman's
house, which contains the names of about
sixty-three birds, most of whioh can be
identified, but two at least are quite un-
intelligible— " Bayninge " and " Blankett "
(also spelt "Blonket"). "Bayninge" is
Eossibly a diminutive, meaning the little
ay or red bird, but of what species ? The
name " Blankett " may perhaps signify
some sort of wild duck of a grey colour, in
which sense the adjective " bloncket " is
used by Spenser. Any explanatory assist-
ance regarding these two obsolete names
will be gratefully acknowledged.
J. H. GURNEY.
Keswick Hall, Norwich.
THE ANT-BEAR AND THE TORTOISE. — In
Major Leonard's ' The Lower Niger and its
Tribes,' 1906, p. 314, it is said that the
natives have elevated the tortoise to the
sovereignty of the beasts of the forest.
One motive for this, according to the author,
is that
"The animal in question can exist longer with-
out food than perhaps any other animal of its
gloomy forests, or indeed of other countries, the
ant-bear of Brazil alone excepted."
The tortoise's extreme indifference, to
hunger is proverbial in China. But is
the same trait of the ant-bear a well-
ascertained fact ? And, if so, where can
I find an account of it ?
KUMAGUSU MlNAKATA.
Tanabe, Kii, Japan.
RICHARD SNOW. — Particulars wanted of
the i parentage and marria.ge of Richard
Snow, who was buried at Pilton, near Barn-
staple, in 1791, aged 80. Wife's name Mary.
Neither baptized nor married at either
place. H. D.
LORD ROBERTS : HOUSE IN WHICH HE
DIED. — On Nov. 18, 1914, I w^ote from
Lausanne — where I then lived — to the
editor of The Daily Mail to suggest that
a movement should be made to purchase the
house in St. Omer where Lord Roberts
died, and keep it as a memorial of the great
soldier. As far as I am aware, my letter
did not appear in the paper, and no action
has been taken in any way. It would be
well to put on record the name of the street
and the number of the house. Can some one
supply these details ?
HERBERT SOUTH AM.
WILLIAM SIMPSON FORD OF HOLYWEIL
STREET.— I shall be glad to learn if any-
thing has been recorded of this interesting
publisher, who in 1846 issued W. A. Dela-
motte's ' Account of the Royal Hospital
of St. Bartholomew,' &c. This work, now
becoming scarce, is worth examination.
The illustrations by the author are litho-
graphs drawn on zinc plates, and while
the second or half title, printed from type
in two colours, shows that the book was
first published when Ford was at 304 Strand ,
the first title, lithographed, gives his later
address of 18 Holywell Street, Strand.
In some copies a catalogue of Ford's
publications is inserted, and besides this
work his productions were engravings and
lithographs. There are mezzotints by
James Stubbs, etchings, wood engravings,
&c. ; and the same author -artist, W. A.
Delamotte, provided a lithograph "drawn
on zinc " : " Henry VIII. and Ann Boleyii,
vide ' Windsor Castle,' an Historical
Romance by "W". Harrison Ainsworth, Esq."
Ford dealt in prints, autograph letters,
old books, &c.. and was, I believe, related
to Ford of Islington Greoii. His business
was at least so refreshingly different from
that usual in Holywell Street that his
enterprise is worth recording.
ALECK ABRAHAMS.
REV. W. BARTLETT. — The Rev. William
Bartlett, Rector of Newark and East Stoke,
Nottingham, died May, 1835, aged 65.
Will any descendants communicate with
me ? H. R. P. BAKER.
DR. T. HARRISON.— Dr. Thomas Harrison,
of Mitford Villa, near Bath, was living in
1840. I shall be glad if any descendants
will communicate with me.
H. R. P. BAKER.
77 Accrington Road, Blackburn.
CONVEX LIGHTS AND CONIC LIGHTS,
c 1700. — In the wardens' accounts of one
of the City guilds the following item occurs
vear after year, between 1696 and 1750:
" Paid for Convex Lights, 12s."
I have often wondered what these " convex
lights" were, and on looking through^ 'A
New View of London ' (printed in 1708)
I found the following : —
" Convex Lights. The office is kept at the
White Heart on the E. side of Bread Street, and
by the Statute 5 & 6 W. and Mary, ch. 10, tj
City may lease to the Persons concerned in .the
Convex Lights, the sole use of such lights mthm
the City. The Bates paid for these lights is
6s. per'ann. by such whose houses iront
streets. And these lights begin to burn 3 days
126
NOTES AND QUERIES. ['12 s. v. MAY, 1919.
after the first full moon after Michaelmas-day
and are lighted every evening at 6, burning till
1, 2 or more in the morning. They are said to be
the invention of one Mr. Hemmings.
" Conic Lights. The office is situated in
Lambs Conduit Row. Mr. Cole was the first
inventor of them about the year 1704 ; the
present proprietors are Mr. Hart, Mr. Staples, &c.
They light in common streets, without the city
for 4s. between Michaelmas and Lady Day."
I should be glad to know what these
" inventions " were. The " convex lights "
were probp.bly, I suppose, what we know
as a " bull's-eye " ; but the " conic lights "
want a little explanation.
WALTER H. PHILLIPS.
Dulwich, S.E.
" PENNTLES BENCH." — In a court roll of
the manor of Prescot, Lancashire, 1639,
the following occurs : —
" Item, whereas Penniles Bench is some parte
of it taken away, it is ordered that what person
or persons tooke or conveyed the same away
shall bringe it againe and make the place sufficient
as it was before. Subpena vis. 8d."
What does this refer to ? The orders before
and after this entry refer to the payment
of highway charges and fencing of passages.
Were stocks ever called by any such name ?
R. S. B.
[The ' New Eng. Diet.' says : " Name of a
covered bench which formerly stood beside
Carfax Church, Oxford ; and apparently of
similar open-air seats elsewhere : probably as
being the resort of destitute wayfarers." The
quotations range from 1500 at Oxford to 1C20 at
Canterbury, an Oxford quotation c. 1600 supplying
a good history of the actual bench.]
BLTJECOAT SCHOOLS. — Will some of your,
readers give me a list of the various schools
in England known as Bluecoat Schools,
beginning with Christ's Hospital, London,
founded 1553 ? There are several others,
I know, as at Liverpool, Manchester, Bir-
mingham, and Oldham. I should be glad
to know the dates of foundation, and if the
schools are still in existence.
J. MARSHALL TAYLOR.
477 Lord Street, Southport.
EDWARD ALLEN, PAINTER AND ENGRAVER.
— Edward Allen died s.p. at Theale, Berks,
of which place he was a native, in 1836, and
left a small bread charity for the benefit of
the poor of Theale. He was the son of
John and Elizabeth Allen of North Street,
Theale, and descended from the Aliens of
Hardwell, Berks. Their arms were Arg.,
Memorial of the Battle of St. Vincent,' was
by him ; also severa.1 family portraits. An
oil painting of himself was sold at or near
Dartford (Kent) in the nineties of last century.
Traces of it are desired. He seems to have
had some sort of appointment at Somerset
House which included the destruction of a
very large number of packs of cards bearing
unstamped aces of spades. Any details will
be acceptable. Please reply direct to
ALFRED ALLEN HARRISON.
Fort Augustus, N.B.
W. H. ARNOLD. — I should feel obliged for
references to W. H. Arnold, author of ' The
Devil's Bridge,' ' The Woodman's Hut,' and
other dramatic pieces. The date of his
death is specially desired.
Irvine.
R. M. HOGG.
two bars az., a silver anchor over all.
a lion's head collared.
Crest,
SIR EDWARD PAGET. — Is there a steel
(or other) engraving of Lie ut.- General the
Hon. Sir .Edward Paget, K.C.B., who
served in the Peninsular War ; as Governor
of Ceylon (1821-3) ; and finally as Com-
mander-in-Chief in India ? He died in
1849, and is buried at Chelsea Hospital.
He was the father of the Rev. Francis Paget,
author of ' St. Antholin's.'
PENRY LEWIS.
AARON HUGH. — I should be much obliged
if any reader of ' N. & Q.' could give me any
information about Aaron Hugh, who is
upposed to have kept an inn or alehouse
somewhere in" Sussex between 1800 and
1823. LEWIS HUGHES.
49 Emerald Street, Roath, Cardiff.
"PERVERSITY OF INANIMATE OBJECTS." —
Who was it that first spoke of " the perver-
sity of inanimate objects "
J. R, H.
CLEMENTS FAMILY. — Can any reader
of * N. & Q.' kindly give me information
about this family ? I am seeking to
identify Sarah Clements (b. 1779-80, d. 1850),
who at the time of her marriage to Edmund
Hayward of Needham Market, Suffolk,
Nov. 2, 1802, was described as "of Rings-
hall (Suffolk), spinster." She can only
have been living for a short time at Rings -
hall, possibly at the Hall, the residence of
Thos. Hayward, her future brother-in-law.
Her father is believed to have been a London
cloth - merchant ; certainly her brother
George was a cloth -merchant in the metro-
polis. A married sister, Mrs. Fielder, Jived
Is anything known of him as an engraver I at Kennington. H. R. LINGWOOD.
and painter ? An engraving (coloured), ' A ' 15 Richmond Road, Ipswich.
12 S. V. MAY, 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
127
AUTHOR OF QUOTATION WANTED. —
I think of thee in the night
When all beside is still,
And the moon comes out with her pale sad ligh
To sit on the lonely hill,
And the stars are all like dreams,
And the breezes all like sighs,
And there comes a voice from far-off streams
Like thy spirit's low replies.
C. V. D.
CHURCHES USED FOR THE ELECTION
OF MUNICIPAL OFFICERS.
(US. xii. 360, 404, 430, 470, 511.)
'GEOB.GE HILLIER, in his unfinished ' History
and Antiquities of the Isle of Wight,'
prints from one of the corporation books of
the borough of Newport, Isle of Wight, a
record of the " ancient usages and old
customs " of the borough as they were
practised in the reign of Elizabeth : —
" Theis be the auncient usags & olcle customes
of the Borowgh of Newport w*hin ye Isle of
Wight dewlie continued fro ye tyme ye memorie
of man is not to the contrarie.
" First e, the Use is and hath ben tyme owt of
mynde, the Bailives yerely in ye Guilde Hawle
of Newport, the thursdaye precdinge ye Sonday
next before the Ffeast of Saint Michell tharch-
.angell wth all there Bretherne to assemble to
debate matters towchinge good rules and orders
of ye towne Untill ix. or tenne of the clock before
noone of the same daye Att ye wch hower, they
dep'tinge thence forthwth repaireth to the
Churche there to yelde and receve ye chardg of
the olde officers and Shortlie after '"to p'cede to
ye eleccon of newe govners. And before they
attempteth the p'miss they all reverently kneel-
Inge downe upon their knees devoutely calleth
upon God that for his Sonne Christe sake he
wolde assist them in their newe eleccon to choose
«uche rulers as maye upprightly wthowt afCeccon.
sy've and diligentlie attend their vocation to
God's glorie the Prince's honor and como'wealthe
of the said Borowgh.
" Itm. Ther prayer and supplicacon to God
•donne the Use is and hathe ben tyme owt of
mynde that the foreman of the xij. sworne in ye
Lawday laste before wth ye re^st of his Bretherne
•shall stand forthe unto ye w*h ye olde Bailives
approcheth neere wth ther cappes and maces yn
their handes bare hedded and wth woordes "of
submiccon rendereth the accompte of their
Bailieweeke and wth all reverence yeldeth uppe
their authorities maces and other synes therof
into ye hands of the foreman above specified
according to the maner wch being then authorised
by the power aforsaid wth the assistance of the
•Co'burgs they standing bye dothe give either
-correction or comendacon 'unto the officers for
ye tyme displaced accordinge to ther deservings
ye hole yere p'cedinge. And this donne the old
Bailives resumeth their said offices co'dicionally
to supplie ye same unto Michelm's daye at noone
then next ensuing and the Constables renderith
uppe their offices they leekwise and submitteth
themselfts accordinglie w°h ceremonies finisshed
the Bailives wth the hole co'panie of the Burgess
dep'tethe thence and lovinglie goeth to gether to
ye yowng Bailives howse to dynner and there
rnaketh merrie.
" Itm. After dynner the hole feloshippe of the
burgess ye said Bailives absentinge them selffs
agayne repaireth to ye Churche incontentlie to
consulte and chose newe officers to beare ye state
ye yere folowinge dividing them selffes into two
companies after the olde usage. They y* hath
borne ye cheef office into ye Chauncell as ye
higher roome and ye reside we into ye Bodie of
ye Churche as ye lower roome. Then dothe ye
ye
ley
elder co'panye ley their heddes to gether and
after good advise and deliberacon taken, writteth
owt two of ye elder co'panies names yn a little
Tickett or Scrowle of paper whome they betwene
them selfts estemeth moste worthieste to 'supplie ye
roome of ye Elder Bay live ye yere ensuinge
Sending hit downe by the Steward sworne to
ye yownger companie to- ye intent y* every of
them sholde sette a seurall note or pry eke upon
his hedde whom they thowght moste worthiest
for ministringe of Justice to be advaunced to ye
roome of ye Elder Baylie And he uppon whos
hedde ar moste notes or prickes supplieth ye
chefe office and ys Eldest Baylive for y* yere
folowing. Irumediatlie after ye Elder companie
chooseth the younger Bailive to associate ye
Ider in gou'me't of the Bailiweeke by voyces
onlye and not by notes or prickes as is aforesaide.
This Eleccon fullie accomplisshed the use is and
lathe ben tyme owt of mynde ye olde officers and
:here bretherne to bringe home ye newe officers
>o there howses in ye order folowinge. That is
weete The Sergeants goinge before wth there
naces ye elder olde bay lie goinge on ye right
land accompanied wth ye elder newe Baylive in
re left syde And ye olde young baylie in the
ight of his felowe ye newe younger baylive wth
re Constables in leeke manner arid all the Burgess
olowing copples in their degree, and there rnaketh
hortte drinckings as wth a peare or proyne or
uche other leeke."
Further on in the same document we have
..nother example of the use of the church
or other than religious purposes : —
" Itm. The use is and hathe bin tyme owt of
lynde the Churchwardens to make the Churche
accompte before the Baylives Burgess and other
p'ishioners yerelie assembled in the Churche at
after noone the Sondaye after Alhallow daye."
There is a great deal of evidence from
various sources that churches in mediaeval
times were used for all sorts of secular
purposes.
Hillier says at p. 25 of his account of the
borough of Newport in his work before
referred to : —
" With the stage players who visited Newport
at this period [that is, the reign of Elizabeth]
the dealings of the authorities were regulated
by the character of the times. There i* mention of
their being permitted to perform in the church,
as was then frequently the case in other parts of
the kingdom."
Westwood. Clitheroe.
WM. SELF WEEKS.
128
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 S. V. MAY, 1919.
" STRAITSMAN."
(12 S. iv. 186, 257.)
I HAD not seen the section of the ' N.E.D.'
that contains this term when I sent my
former reply, which was only penned after
consulting some of the officials at Lloyd's.
Under " Strait," B. 3, I find that the
Dictionary confirms the suggestion made
at the second reference by the REV. A. G.
KEALY with regard to "Straits" : —
" The Straits in the 17th and 18th centuries
usually meant the Straits of Gibraltar ; now,
where there is no contextual indication, chiefly
the Straits of Malacca."
Under B. 11 occur : —
" Straits-born, born in the Straits Settlements.
" Straitsman, (a) a ship suitable for the Straits ;
(&) Australian (J. L. Stokes, " Discov.," 1846).
' Straitsmen is the name by which those who
inhabit the eastern and western entrance of Bass
Strait are known.'
" 1799. Hull Advertiser. — ' The good brigan-
tine Lady Bruce. .. .would make an excellent
coaster or streightsman.' "
This I take to refer to the Straits of Dover.
"1686. T. Hale, 'Ace. New Invent.'— 1691 [sic]
— * a good Streights sheathing and not above half
so much as an East-India sheathing.' "
This may relate to the Straits of Malacca,
but the following examples certainly do : —
"1693. Luttrell, 'Brief Relation': 'The
Streights fleet and their convoy ' (Ibid.). ' The
Dutch Streights and West India fleets are
arrived.' "
However, I am pleased to say I have just
chanced on a very noteworthy letter- in
Pepys's correspondence which carries
" straitsman " in its Asiatic acceptation
still farther back. It may be deemed
advantageous if at the present time I quote
the greater part of the Earl of Sandwich's
letter to the Duke of Albemarle, which
ultimately reached Mr. Pepys : —
On board the Prince,
30 leagues N.N.W. from the Texel.
Sept. 5, 1665.
May it please your Grace, —
Since I putt last to sea on Thursday last, wee
had a storme of winde att N.N.W., which God be
thanked, did tis noe other damage than spoiling
the mast? of the Diamond, sent into Harwich,
and 40 barrels of the Soveraigne's powder.
Separated very few [of] us, though the same upon
the coast, of Norway much dispersed the Dutch,
some of which were light uppon on the 3rd of
Septy. Tooke 2 of their East India men, a
Straights man. a Malaya man, and 4 men of warre ;
3 of them of 50 guns and one of 40 guns, and
some other small vessells. I have intelligence
the greatest parte of their fleet is about the
Walbanck, whither I am now plying and hope
to see them shortly. I thought requisite to
send a vessell to in forme the King and Duke thus;
much of us, and your Grace, noe person in the
world being a truer and thankfuller servant of
your Grace's than, &c. SANDWICH.
The Hector is unfortunately sunke, and the-
Captain and most of her men drowned ; only
25 saved. The Captain carried himself exceed-
ingly well ; helped to take the Vice-admirall of the
East Indies, and only putt some men on board
her, and went on to engage the mon of warre-
Capt. Con (Capt. of the Mary) is hurt ill in the
foote with a great shott.
I have copied this letter from Lord Bray-
brooke's edition of * The Diary and Corre-
spondence of Samuel Pepys,' 1890, vol. iv.
p. 251. Lord Sandwich appends a table
of the men-of-war and merchantmen cap-
tured on Sept. 3 and 4, with the names of
their captors. From this we learn that
" a mercht. ma,n from the Straights "
was captured by the ship Guinea, and that
" another Streights mercht. soe engaged
[by the Ruby] that they sett her on fire."
In the ' Life of Lord Clarendon ' by
himself it is stated that this fleet of mer-
chantmen had been met on its way to*
Holland by Admiral de Ruyter's squadron,,
which was convoying it home, " or ought
to have been " ; but, as several of the
vessels were proceeding to different destina-
tions, the company had got scattered, with
the result that Lord Sandwich in two*
encounters captured 8 of the larger ships,
2 East Indiamen, and some 20 of the-
smaller craft.
The significance of the Dutch colonies-
in the East- Indies is thus commented on by
Clarendon : —
" where they [the Dutch] had planted themselves-
in great and strong towns, and had many har-
bours well fortified, in which they constantly
maintained a great number of good and strong-
ships, by which they were absolute masters of
those seas, and forced the neighbouring kings-
and princes to enter into such terms of amity with,
them as they thought fit to require." — ' Life of
Edward, Earl of Clarendon, and a Continuation
of his History of the Grand Rebellion/ vol. ii-
p. 53, Oxford, 1857.
The " large Straitsman " mentioned ins
W. Hickey's ' Memoirs ' was evidently a-
vessel hailing from the Orient.
N. W. HILL.
Lloyd's, Royal Exchange.
A " Straitsman " was a sailing vessel'
trading (1) through the Straits of Gibraltar
and up the Mediterranean ; (2) to the-
Straits Settlements ; or (3) through the
Straits of Magellan, round Cape Horn. The-
last is sometimes called "a Homer'"
amongst sailors. J. W. FAWCETT.
Consett, co. Durham.
12 S. V MAY, 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
129
MB. JUSTICE MATJLE ON BIGAMY AND
DIVORCE (12 S. v. 64). — In answer to
W. B. H. concerning the oft-quoted dictum
of Mr. Justice Maule, I may say that The
Times of April 3, 1845, p. 7, in its law report
of the Assizes at Warwick on April 1, gives
the following report of the trial of Thomas
Hall for bigamy : —
MIDLAND CIRCUIT.
Warwick, Tuesday, April 1, 1845.
Thomas Hall, alias Thomas Rollins, a poor man
not possessed of a farthing, or a farthing's worth,
in the world, aged 35, was indicted for having, on
the 18th of Apr'L 1830, at the parish of Northleach,
in the county Giocester, taken for his wife Mary
Ann Nicholls, and afterwards, on the 15th of
February, 1840, at the parish of Hampden-in-
Arden, in this county, married and taken to wife
Maria Hadley, his former wife being then alive,
contra formam. The offence was clearly proved,
but he stated that within a year or two of his
marriage with Mary Ann, she robbed him, and
sallied forth with the child, and he had never since
•Been either, though he had at the time obtained
.& special warrant for her apprehension, armed
with which he proceeded to the region of her
•seclusion or retirement, where he got sadly handle j
by ruffians, and was made heartily glad to make
the best of his way home to save his life, leaving
his baggage in his precipitate departure from that
profligate retreat. The substance of this, or at
least much of it, he elicited from the witnesses for
the prosecution. He had, however, represented
to Maria that he had never entered into the holy
state, and she had given birth to two children by
him. He was of course, under these circum-
stances, convicted, and
Mr. Justice Maule, in passing sentence, said,
"that it did appear that he had been hardly used.
It was hard for him to be so used, and not be able
'to have another wife to live with him, when the
former had gone off to live in an improper state
with another man. But the law was the same for
him as it was for a rich man, and was equally open
fro him, through its aid, to afford relief ; but, as
the rich man would have done, he also should have
pursued the proper means pointed out by law
whereby to obtain redress of his grievances. He
-should have brought an action against the man
who was living in the way stated with his wife,
and he shoxild have obtained damages, and then
should have gone to the Ecclesiastical Court and
obtained a divorce, which would have done what
•seemed to have been done already, and then he
should have gone to the House of Lords, and,
proving all his case and the preliminary proceed-
ings, have obtained a full and complete divorce,
after which he might, if he liked it, have married
ragain. The prisoner might perhaps object to
this that he had not the money to pay the
expenses, which would amount to about 500 1. or
600Z. — perhaps he had not so many pence — but
'this did not exempt him from paying the penalty
for committing a felony, of which he had been
•convicted. His Lordship might, perhaps, have
visited the crime more lightly if the prisoner had
not misrepresented himself as a bachelor to Maria
Hadley, and so deceived her. If he had told her
the circumstances, and said, " Now I'll marry
you if you like to take the chance," &c. ; but this
Sxe had not done, and thus he had induced her to
live with him upon terms which she perhaps else
would not have done. It was a serious injury to
her, which he had no right to inflict because his
wife and others had injured him. For this offence
he must receive some punishment, and the sentence
was, that he be imprisoned and kept to hard
labour for four months, which he hoped would
operate as a warning how people trifled with
matrimony.
R. A. CUNNINGHAM.
" LICK INTO SHAPE " : " LAMBENDO EF-
FINGEBE" (12 S. v. 69). — The Greek equiva-
lent or equivalents are to be seen in ^Elian's
' De Natura Animalium,' ii. 19 and vi. 3.
In the former passage, after saying that the
bear gives birth to a formless lump of flesh,
he proceeds : 17 8f yjftrj c/uAet /cat
TtKvov, /cat VJTO rot? ^urypots ddXirci, /cat
rrj yAarrn?, Ka^ «*TWOt ets apOpa, Kal
/cat /caret /zi/cpa e/c/xop<£ot. At the second
reference his expression is T"{i jX^rry StapOpol
avrrjv (sc. crdpKa acnjjuov), /cat otovet Sia-
Aristotle, ' De Animalibus Hist.,' vi.
29 (34), says that fox-cubs are even more
shapeless at their birth than young bears,
and that their mother warms them
thoroughly by licking them with her tongue
and matures them (TQ yXutrry
Pliny, 'Nat. Hist.,' viii. 36 (54), 126,
uses the words " lambendo paulatim figu-
rant " when he describes the process of
licking bear-cubs into shape.
EDWARD BENSLY.
University College, Aberystwyth.
BIBLIOGRAPHY or EPITAPHS (12 S. v. 68).
— The undernoted publications can be added
to the list of works which deal with this
subject : —
Historical Description of Westminster Abbey,
its Monuments and Curiosities. London : Printed
for A. K. Newman & Co. 1834. Price Two
Shillings.
A History of the Church and Parish of St. Martin
Carfax), Oxford. By the Rev. Carteret J. H.
Fletcher, M.A., late Rector. — This work was
published in 1896, soon after the demolition of
Jhe church. The tower is still standing.
The Churches of Whitehaven Rural Deanery.
By the Rev. Caesar Caine, Vicar of Cleator. — A
most useful and interesting publication. Would
that other rural deaneries would issue somewhat
similar volumes.
Ad el and its Norman Church. By the Rev.
W. H. Draper, Vicar of the parish. Leeds :
Richard Jackson, Commercial Street. 1909.
Fulham, Old and New. 3 vols. By Charles
James Feret. 1900.
A New Select Collection of Epitaphs. London :
Printed for S. Bladon, No. 16, Pater-Noster Row.
MDCCLXXV.
130
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[128. V MAY, 1919.
A History of the Parish of Westbury, Bucks.
By the Rev. Richard Ussher, Vicar of the parish. —
The date of publication is not given, but it was
circa 1900. The printers were Walford & Son,
Market Hill, Buckingham.
Historical Buckingham. By J. T. Harrison,
" The Poplars," Buckingham. 1909. — Also
printed by Walford & Son.
I hope to send a further list.
L. H. CHAMBERS.
Bedford.
See the Journal of the Society for Pre-
serving the Memorials of the Dead in
Ireland. WILLIAM MAC ARTHUR.
Dublin.
To the list may be added the following : —
Epitaphiana : or, The Curiosities of Churchyard
Literature. By W. Fairley, F.S.S. London :
Samuel Tinsley. 1873.
C. C. B.
MR. FAWCETT will find two items on this
subject in Mr. Courtney's ' Bibliography of
Bibliographies' vol. i. p. 176, and vol. iii.
p. 92. EDWARD SMITH.
42 Rosehill Road, S.W.I 8.
This subject has been dealt with at
considerable length in the Tenth Series,
vols. i. to iii. ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
THE SWIN (12 S. v. 95).— In topography
swin frequently occurs in connexion with
water ; but I never feel sure whether it
stands for the element itself, or for some
peculiarity in the particular instance of it,
to which the syllable has been attached.
Mr. Streatfeild, author of ' Lincolnshire
and the Danes,' believed that swin -was
" at least cogna,te with Dutch swin, a
creek or bay" (p. 194) ; and he mentioned
Swineshead, which was formerly clo~e to,
if not washed over by, the sea, as a place
"which formed perhaps the limit in one
direction of the navigable channel." I some-
times fp,ncy that my rainy patron owes
something to swin. ST. SWITHIN.
CRAGGS AND NICHOLSON FAMILIES (12 S.
iv. 220, 310 ; v. 21).— T find from the Kendal
parish registers that Edward Nicholson and
Margaret Cragg (not Craggs), both of
Kendal, were married at Underbarrow on
Nov. 18, 1739. If the person who made
the entry wrote the bride's name correctly,
then she was not a member, of the Craggs
family. The Cragg family was distinct
from the Craggs family. The former is a
yeoman family indigenous to Cumberland
and Westmorland ; the latter is not. The
arms of the Cra^g family were : a fe'se
between three mullets in chief, and as many
cross-crosslets in bar^e, argent. I am not
certain what the arms of the Craggs family
were. If Margaret's name was correctly
Cragg, there is some misiinde:- tanding
about the relationship with the Postmaster -
General Craggs. J. W. FAWCETT.
Consett, co. Durham.
H. C. PIDGEON (12 S. iii. 211, 307).—
I think there must be an error in the state-
ment in the above query that H. C. Pidgeon
of Liverpool was the author of the fairly
well-known " Memorials of Shrewsbury, by
Henry Pidgeon," 1837 ; second edition,
1851.
The title-page (1851) describes the author
as Treasurer of the Corporation of Shrews-
bury ; and the preface to the first edition
speaks of his " ardent attachment to his
native place," the preface to each edition
having " High Street " appended, appar-
ently in Shrewsbury. It hardly seems
possible that H. C. 'Pidgeon of Liverpool
and afterwards of London, and the local
official, were the same person.
W. B. H.
RICHARD BAXTER or ' THE SAINTS' REST '
(12 S. v. 60).— I think that' J. P. B. might
find particulars about the Baxter family in
Canon Newling's MS. Shropshire Pedigrees,
now in the William Salt Library r,t Stafford ;
in the Blakeway MSS., vols. v. and vi.,
preserved in the Bodleian Library at
Oxford ; and in the George Morris, William
Morris, and Wm. Hardwicke MSS. which
pro in private hands. The Hardwicke
MSS. have pedigrees of Baxter in vols. i. 199,
and ii. 8^. The Eaton Const&ntine and
Leighton Registers, published by the Shrop-
shire Parish Register Society, should also
be searched. There are over thirty entries
of Baxter in these two registers. The
Registers of High Ercall (in which parish
Rowton is situated) have been copied, but
not yet printed .
W. G. D. FLETCHER, F.S.A.
BROOKE ROBINSON OF DUDLEY (12 S.
v> 97). — The book MRS. S. BENNITT inquires
about is ' Genealogical Memoirs of the
Family of Brooke Robinson of Dudley,
together with the Kindred Families oi
Persehouee, &c.,' privately printed in 1896.
There is a copy in the William Salt Library
at Stafford, and also one at the British
Museum. The reference to the latter is
9€06. d. 17. There ought also to be a copy
in the Birmingham Public Libraries. A
copy was lately offered for sale in a Bir-
mingham bookseller's catalogue for Ll.
W. G. D. FLETCHER, F.S.A.
128. V. MAY, 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
131
FRENCH NATIONAL EMBLEM, THE Coc
(12 S. v. 94). — The following extracts ma
help MR. LANDFEAR LUCAS.
The ' Nouveau Larousse Illustre,' unde
heading " Coq. Hist.,"" says: —
" Coq gaulois ou sirrplem. Cog. Tin de
emblemes nationaux de la France : le Coq Gauloi
a decore des drapeaux francais pendant la premier
Revolution. En 1830, le Coq Gaxilois remplag
la fleur de lis comme eirbleme national, et fu
supprime de nouveau par Napoleon III."
Brr«dy in * Clavis Calendaria ' (]
says : —
" Cock Throwing. The meaning of the custom
has been thus explained : — In our wars wit
France in former ages, our ingenious forefather
invented this emblematical way of expressinj
their derision of, and resentment towards, tha
nation .... A cock has the misfortune to be calle
in Latin by the same word which signifies {
Frenchman .... It was introduced in the reigr
of ovr third Edward ; the cock is always callei
the Gallic bird, and consideredj'to be one of th
emblems of France."
Littre in the ' Dictionnaire de la Langu<
Franchise ' gives : —
" Coq. Le choix de cet oiseau comme symboh
de la ration f ran raise est de date recente (la
premiere revolution, et surtout celle de 1830)
il ne ppratt guere fonde que sur Thorn onymie latim
de gallus, qui sigr.ifie a la fois coq et Gaulois."
ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
M. E. Sail lens in his c Fact ; about France
says : —
" The Be volition, always bent on classica
reminiscences, revived the old Roman pun
gallus was the Latin for ' Gaul ' and for ' cock.
So the cock was chosen as the national emblem
. . . .Napoleon disdained the cock, ' who lives on
dunghills,' he said, and adopted the eagle; an
emblem of classical origin also, but savouring of
Roman military, power, not of French farm-life,
courage and vigilance. (' The eagle lives on
carrion,' retorted the opponents of Napoleon.). . . .
Louis-Philippe revived the democratic cock. . . r
The Third Republic has a cock on its gold coins."
A. R. BAYLEY.
Does the origin of the French national
emblem, the cock, not appear to be evident
from the double sen-e and meaning of the
Latin name, viz., Gallus, denoting both
the cook ani the Gaul, i.e., the. ancient
Celtic inhabitant of Gallia, or France t
H. K.
SUBMARINES (12 S. iii. 356, 397 ; iv. 112).
—Wang Kia, a Taoist priest of China
(4th century A.D.), in his ' Shi-i-ki,' lib. iv.,
when referring to the reign of Shi-Hwang-ti
of the Ts'in dynasty (221-210 B.C.), says : —
" The people of Yuen-ku arrived in China after
making the voyage in the lo-chau [lit., "spiral-
shell boat "], which was shaped like a spiral shell,
and capable of being conducted quite near the"
bottom of the deep without incurring the intru--
sioii of any water. Its other name was lun-po-chau
[lit., " under-wave boat "). The men of that
country had the stature of ten feet, and clad them-
selves with the knitted hairs of birds and beasts.
Questioned by the emperor as to the begirnings
of the heaven and earth, they answered as if
they had ocularly witnessed it."
Obviously, this idea of the spiral-fhell
boat was the outcome of the observation
of the submarine movement of such a r hell-
fish as the nautilus or argonaut.
KUMAGUSU MlNAKATA.
Tanabe, Kii, Japan.
CORNISH AND DEVONIAN PRIESTS EXE-
CUTED IN 1548-9 (12 S. v. 96). — According
to Frances Rose-Troup's ' The Western-
Rebellion of 1549' (Smith & Elder, 1911),
the name of the priest executed alone on
July 7, 1548, was Martin Geffrey, late of
St. Keverne (pp. fiO-92). According to the^
same work, p. 497, William Alsa was Vicar
of Gulval al's Lanistey in 1536 (Oliver's
' Eccles. -Antiquities,' ii. 188), and James
Nourton Vicar of St. Uny, next Lelant
(p. 499). The benefices of the other six are
not given in the above work.
W, A. B. C.
J. TURNER, PAINTER c. 18£0 (12 S. v. 69)..
— I regret that I am unable to solve this
query, but I feel sure that MR. TOMSON would
be interested in a somewhat protracted
controversy which appeared in The Con-
wisseur, vol. xv. Ill, and xvi. 47 and 251
June, September, and December, 1906),
The question was whether an artist who-
Dublished a series of views of Edinburgh in
1824, and signed his name on each of them
as " W. Turner de Lond. del. et sculp.," was
dentical with the famous J. M. W. Turner or
not. It was conclusively proved that thejr
.vere certainly not one and the same man,
nor was there any evidence that they were
n any way related. It may be the same-
with J. Turner. ALAN STEWART.
"TROUNCER" (12 S. iv. 101, 198, 229). —
he death of the RIGHT HON. G. W..
RSKINE RUSSELL (see ante, p. 84) will lend
dditional interest to the following extract
om a letter which he wrote me in August
ast anent this much-discussed word : —
" I take it that the verb ' to trounce ' has long
nee lost its original significance — if indeed I was
Drrectly informed about it. When the punish'
lent of flogging at the cart's tail was abolished^
o doubt the verb in that technical sense went
ut of use. But it has survived as meaning any
vere punishment, e.g., a lady who had been-
uncivilly treated by the man who was showing
132
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. v. MAY, 1919.
-strangers round a show-place complained to the
owner, and, reporting the incident to us, said the
man was ' trounced,' meaning, I imagine,
Tebuked for his rudeness."
Perhaps some readers may add further
Information about the term.
CECIL CLARKE.
Junior Athenaeum Club.
BIRD -SCARING SONGS (12 S. v. 98). — Is
it permissible to quote the following refer -
-fcuoo vG a bird -scaring song, though neither
•words nor tune can be supplied ?
There was a young man of Boulong
Who went through the woods with a song.
ft wasn't the words
That so startled the birds,
But the horrible double entong.
EDWARD BENSLY.
Although I spent my early years among
Derbyshire farmers, I never heard any
bird -scaring songs. Two or three devices
were in use. One was a clapper in the
hands of a lad who, after a vigorous clapping,
shouted or chanted in a sing-song way : —
Away, bods, away !
Tak' a bit, an' leave a bit,
An' cum no moor to-day.
The tune was on the tuning-fork C, and a
note above and below, ending with more
of the clapper. Another clapping machine
wa> on the windmill fashion, placed on a
pole, and wind -driven by sails. It made an
;awful row in a strong wind, its main effect
being to send the " bods " to the other side
•of the field. A gun had no other effect in
the hands of a lad, but it made the lad
"hai)py. THOS. RATCLIFFE.
Southfield, Worksop.
MISSEL THRUSH AND MISTLETOE SEEDS
{12 S. v. 98). — In vol. iv. p. 440 of Lean's
"6 Collectanea of Proverbs,' &c., is placed
The thrush when he pollutes the bough
Sows for himself the seeds of woe ;
=and the reader is directed to Swan's ' Specu-
lum Mundi,' p. 246 (1665), for " Turdus ipse
sibi cacat malum." I do not find that my
copy of the ' Speculum,' dated 1635, has any
•reference to the matter. ST. S WITHIN.
MORLAND GALLERY, FLEET STREET (12 S.
v. 69). — The exhibition of work by George
Morland, mentioned in 1806 by Sir Richard
Phillip? in his ' Picture of London,' was
•opened at Macklin's Rooms in Fleet Street
in 1805. It was known as the " Morland
•Gallery," and contained ninety -five pictures,
-many of which were of marine subjects. The
•othe '3 included ' Inside a Stable ' (engraved
<foy J. R. Smith), ' Travellers Benighted ' (a
candle-light scene),' The Highmettled Racer,'
' Portrait of tlie Superintendent of a Brick
Kiln,' and a painting of a sheep ?•> large as
life. A contemporary critic of the exhibi-
tion complains that Morland 's " little simple
subjects are overwhelmed with superb
frames, of a prodigious, and in some cases we
think of a preposterous depth."
WILLIAM T. WHITLEY.
Redgrave's ' Dictionary of Artists of the
English School,' 1878 edition, p. 405, says
that the Morland Gallery was ono of John
Raphael Smith's best speculations ; and a
statement to the same effect i.3 in Roget's
' History of the " Old 5i Water-Colour Society,'
18'Jl, vol. ii. p. 115. W. B. H.
WILL. FISHER SHRAPNEL, F.S.A. (12 S.
v. 67). — In a list of officers of the Royal
South Gloucestershire Militia his name
appears as surgeon, Jan. 2, 1893 — evidently
a misprint : either 1793 or 1803 would be
the probable date. . In the same list there
is as ensign Henry Jones Shrapnell, May 15,
1806.
Wiltshire N. <k Q., no. 2, June, 1893,
p. 67, states that the family of Shrapnel
" seem to have lived at Midway House, Lower
Westwood, near Bradford, 'the name of Mr.
Zechariah Shrapnell appearing on Andrews &
Dury's map of 1773 in connection with Midway
House."
General Shrapnel died March 13, 1842, and
was buried in the family vault in the chancel
of Bradford Church (see inscription at
12 S. iv. 129).
In The Genealogist, vol. xxxiii. p. 126,
Henry Shrapnell of Bradford, cooper, is
bondsman in a marriage allegation, Dec. 15,
1668. R. J. FYNMORE.
"PRO PELLE CUTEM " (12 S. V. 93).—
The original source of the proverb is Job ii. 4:
" Pellem pro pelle, et cuncta quse habet
homo, dabit pro anima sua " (Vulg.). Is it
necessary to go beyond that passage for
an explanation ? J. T. F.
Winterton, Lines.
MARKSHALL AND THE FULLER FAMILY
(12 S. v. 8, 78). — I much regret that I am
not able to solve the problem set by OLD
EAST ANGLIAN re connexion between Vesey,
1575, ani the Fullers of Markshall. All I
know is stated fully, pp. 30 to 35 and 66 to
70, in Mis. Gen. et Her., Fourth Series,
vol. iv. Perhaps by consulting these
references OLD EAST ANGLIAN may see light
where I do not.
J. F. FULLER, F.S.A.
Eglinton Road, Dublin.
12 S. V. MAY, 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
133
HERALDIC : CAPTOR AND HIS CAPTIVE'S
ARMS (12 S. iv. 188, 251, 334; v. 26).—
The cases of Bullock and Asheton are both
post -mediaeval. If such a usage as is in
question ever existed, it must be traceable
in the Middle Ages. But no mediaeval case
has ever been found, while there is a con-
siderable number of cases of transfer of
armorial bearings by sale, gift, or legacy.
The Asheton case is the earliest, referring
to the battle of Flodden, 1513. Tong's
account is therefore of a date twenty years
later, and even then he seems to be in doubt,
as was Master Asheton, as to how the
captured arms should be borne. Master
Bullock in 1568 at least has no doubt that
he " wonne " the arms of his Cockburn
opponent twenty-eight years before, in
1540. The development of the idea is clear.
There is no doubt that the Elizabethan
heralds believed in the existence of this
right of arms by capture, but for a great
many of their opinions no foundation of
earlier facts has been produced, so we shall
do wrell to remain reluctant to transfer
Elizabethan ideas to mediaeval times.
E. O. W.'s two cases (iv. 334) do not
bear upon the question. They refer to
arms borne not by right of capture, but by
grant of the sovereign, and give the reasons
assigned by tradition for the specific arms
granted. For the complete text of the
Bullock deed see Journal of the British
Archaeological Association, 1891, part iv.
ftj D- L- G-
In ' John Gary, the Plymouth Pilgrim,'
by Seth C. Gary, appear two other versions
of the story of the Gary coat of arms. The
first, from Burke' s ' Heraldry,1 supplies
some details not given in Izacke's ' Memorials
of Exeter ' (ante, p. 26). After relating
Sir Robert Gary's acceptance of the Aragon
knight's challenge, it continues : —
" At length this noble Champion vanquished
the presumptuous Aragonois, t'6r which King
Henry V. restored unto him a good part of his
father's lands, which for his loyalty to Kichard II.
he had been deprived of by Henry IV., and
authorized him to bear the Arms of a Knight of
Aragon, which the noble posterity continue to
wear unto this day ; for according to the laws of
Heraldry, whoever fairly in the field conquers his
adversary may justify the wearing of his Arms.'
The second is from the Herald's Visita-
tion, 1620 : —
" In the time of Henry V. cam out of Aragon a
lusty gentleman into England, and challenged to
do feites of armes, with any English gentleman
without exception. This Sir Robert Gary hearing
thereof, made sxiite forthwith to the Prince, that
he might answer the challange, which was granted,
and Smithficld was the place appointed for tht-
same, who, at the day and time prefixed, botbu
parties mett and did performe sundrie feates of
armes, but in the end this Eobert gave the foils
and overthrow to the Aragon Knight, disarmed,
and spoiled him, which his doings so well pleased
the Prince, that he receyved him into great favorr
caused him to be restored to the most part of his
father's landes, and willed him also, for a per-
petual! memorie of his victorie, that he should
henceforth give the same armes as the Aragon
Knight, which is Argent, on bend sable three roses-
argent, for before they did beare gules, chevron.
entre three swans argent."
H. TAPLEY-SOPER.
City Library, Exeter.
" OH, DEAR ! WHAT CAN THE MATTER:
BE ? " (12 S. iv. 245.) — I have never come-
across the Latin rendering of this nursery
song, the first part of which MR. FOSTER
PALMER sends ; therefore I cannot help him
to the last part which he seeks. But, lest
his search prove ineffectual, I venture to»
place at his service a suggestion for a con-
clusion. The last lines will then run thus i —
Tardus ad emporium.
Fasciculumque ligare promisit,
Nitida mi coma crocea ni sit
Solutilis nimium.
H. D. ELLIS.
Conservative Club, St. James's Street, S.W.I.
I would reply to my own query by sug-
gesting that the last line should read
" lanthinum auric omam." It would thenc*
run : —
Tardus ad emporium.
Fasciculumque ligare promisit
lanthinum auricomam.
J. FOSTER PALMER,
3 Oakley Street, S.W.3.-
HENCHMAN, HINCHMAN, OR HITCHMAIT.
(3 S. iii. 150; 12 S. ii. 270, 338; iii. Ill-
iv. 24, 304, 340). — The main point brought
forward by MR. AUGUSTINE SIMCOE at
iv. 304 appears to be that the Hensmaik
family are now located, and were located as
far back as 1573, in Northamptonshire,,
from which part the Henchman family are
known to have come, and that therefore
the two families may have a common origin.
This may be, but I fear that at this late-
date it will be nearly impossible to establish
it definitely. Unfortunately, I know nothing
of Northants, but our family history says : —
" The various parishes in which the Henchman
fam.'ly is known to have resided — Barton Segrave,,
Broughton, Harrowden, Burton Latimer, Rushton,.
Cottesbrook, Gt. Dodington, and Irchester — are
all clustered round the two towns of Kettering
and Wellingborough."
Bozeat — though doubtless there also — is-
not mentioned.
134
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 S.V.MAY, 1919
Tt is impossible for me to say whether any
"'branch of the family in Northants changed
"the spelling of their name, though we know
-that the spelling Henchman was definitely
fixed before the time of Thos. Henchman of
London, who recorded his pedigree in 1633.
We have Capt. Henry Henchman in 15 87,
-and Thos. Henchman, M.P. for Whitchurch,
Hants, in 1601, &c. ; and this spelling has
boon preserved to the present day. Two
children of Thos. Henchman of London,
skinner (a brother and a sister of the Bishop
ot London), remained in Northants. Richard
Henchman of Rushton, apparently also
Rector of Cotesbrook, 1614, Northants,
married Lettice, daughter of Robt. Stevens
of Armesty, by whom he had children
Charles and Jane. Jane Henchman was
married to Arthur Hodilow of Grafton
Underwood. There was also an Owen
Henchman in the same county in 1648 ;
..and a Wm. Henchman wa- Rector of Barton
Segrave from 1653 to 1686. Of this branch
of the family we have no complete record,
but they appear to have continued down to
1722.
In The Gentleman's Magazine for 1800,
no. 70, part ii. p. 664, a contributor who
signs " E. T." writes as follows : —
" The chief point of inquiry is whether the
Bishop [Humphry Henchman "of London] had
-any relations or immediate descendants residing
at Broughton, in Northamptonshire. A family
who resided there for near a hundred years, and
spelled their names the same, had a picture of the
Bishop in their possession which they styled a
' Family Piece.' This family was extinct by the
-death of Mrs. Elizabeth Henchman, in 1722. and
no particulars can therefore be learned by tradi-
tional anecdotes."
" E. T." was the authoress Mrs. West,
who claimed Henchman descent.
It was after this correspondence in the
.magazine, in which the Rev. Francis Hench-
man, my great-great-grandfather (d. 1824),
took part, that " all male lines to (him) are
-declared to be extinct." When the history
-of ' The Henchman Family ' wai printed
for private circulation in 1868, careful
seavch w&3 made throughout the United
Kingdom, but failed to bring forth any
-others bearing the name except those
known to the family.
The name Humphrey, borne by so many
in the family, is traced to the Bishop, who
was baptized at Barton Segrave, and named
After his godfather Wm. Humfrey, whose
lamily were lords of that manor for many
generations.
HUMPHREY LLEWELLYN HENCHMAN.
'The Vicarage, Sterkstroom, Cape,
South Africa.
HEART BURIAL (11 S. viii., ix., x., passim ;
12 S. i. 73, 132, 194 ; ii. 33 ; iii. 370 ; iv. 313).
— The Rev. Alfred Forder, in his interesting
work ' In and about Palestine with Note-
book and Camera,' just published by the
Religious Tract Society, records an instance
of heart burial which mc.y be added to those
which have already appeared in ' N. & Q.'
In describing tho Church of the Paternoster,
on the Mount of Olives, he writes (p. 15) : —
" The Princess Latour d'Auvergne, a relative
of Napo/eon III., had this church built in 1868,
and the inscribed tablets [with the Lord's Prayer
in thirty-three different languages] put in the
walls. On the south side is a life-size effigy of the
princess, and in a niche in the wall her heart is
deposited in a red granite urn."
J. R. THORNE.
PATEN OR SALVER ? (12 S. v. 13, 50.) —
In the church of Farley Chamberlayne, near
Winchester, is a plain silver paten with a
very wide rim, on which are two coats of
arms within feather and leafage wreaths.
One of these coats (said to be of older
engraving than the other) is quarterly :
1, St. John ; 2, Beauchamp ; 3, Ewardby ;
4. Carew, with Rivett in pretence. The
second coat is London '(Argent, three cross-
crosslets between two bendlets gules) im-
paling St. John, with the inscription " Ex
dono Robert London Armigeri." It was
given in 1691 by Robert London in memory
of his wife, buried in Farley Church under
a grey slate slab with a white marble coat
of arms (London impaling St. John) and a
Latin inscription which states that
" Here lies buried Elizabeth, eldest of the
three daughters of Oliver St. John, Esq ; died
Feb. 2, 1691, aged 27, in the third year of her
marriage with Robert London of Middleton and
Fordley in Suffolk."
Oliver St. John was third in descent from
William St. John, who was buried under an
altar-tomb in the same church in 1609, with
his effigy in full armour, and the arms,
quarterly, 1, St. John, differenced by a
crescent on a crescent ; 2, Beauchamp of
Bletsho ; 3, Ewardby ; 4, Carew of Bedding-
ton, impaling Gore of Alderton, Wilts.
Oliver St. John married Margery, daughter
of Francis Rivett, who bore for his arms
Argent, three bars spJble ; in chief as many
trivets of the last. These arms, on a shield
of pretence, are on the St. John coat on the
paten, and it is often suggested that it was
engraved in Oliver St. John's time on his
private piece of plate, and that on his
death in August, 1689, it passed to his
daughter Elizabeth, whose husband, adding
his arms on an additional shield, presented
it to the church in 1691. In the 'Church
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
135
Plate of Hampshire,' by P. N. P. Braith-
waite (1909), it is described as
" Diameter 10 inches. Marks : none of assay.
T.C. in a heart-shaped shield, and with V with art
uncertain object placed alternately for the
maker."
Perhaps some reader learned in such
matters can clear up the mystery as to the
tradition that the paten in Farley Church
was once a dinner-plate of the lords of its
manor.
One may perhaps be permitted to add
here a translation of a recently discovered
inscription on a stone beneath the drip
from the roof on the south side of the church
of King Somborne : —
" Here lies Francis Rivet of King Somborne,
in the county of Southampton, Esq. ; also
Elizabeth his wife. He died the 13th day of
December, 1668, in the seventy-fourth year of
.his age. The lady died on the 16th of April,
1669, in the sixty -fourth year of her age. They
left two daughters, co-heiresses : Elizabeth, by
birth the elder, wedded far away* to William
Strode of Barington in the county of Somerset,
Esq. ; and Margaret, married to Oliver St. John
of Farley, by whose sense of duty, and indeed of
love, for parents deserving in the highest degree,
this monument — for what it is worth — stands
forth."
F. H. S.
VAUVENARGUES : " LA CLARTE EST LA
BONNE FOI DES PHILOSOPHES " (12 S. V. 39,
105). — The reference to Vauvenargues,
' CEuvres Choisies,' Pensees Diverges 372,
kindly supplied by MB. GEORGE MABSHALL,
has enabled me to locate this ma^im in the
complete edition of the ' CKuvres ' by
Gilbert (1857). Though not mentioned in
the index, it is printed on p. 475 of vol. i.,
as no. 729 in the Supplement to the ' Re-
flections et Maximes,' which begins with
no. 7C1. These " Supplementary " R. et M.
were among the others in the first edition
(1746), but were arbitrarily omitted in the
posthumous editions from 1747 onwards.
W. M. T.
Oxford.
INSCRIPTIONS IN ST. JOHN THE EVANGE-
LIST'S, WATERLOO ROAD (12 S. v. 63).—-
The Latin epitaph (no. 16 in COL. PABBY'S
list) on the famous actor Elliston enjoys the
honour of being mentioned by Charles
Lamb : —
" Great wert thou in thy life, Robert William
Elliston ! and not lessened in thy death, if report
speak truly, which says that thou didst direct
that thy mortal remains should repose under no
* The word ENVPTAM (translated above
" wedded far away ") is unusual, and means a
woman married out of her tribe.
inscription but one of pure Latinity." — ' The Last
Essays of Elia,' ' Ellistoniana.'
Lamb, however, was in error when he
wrote "... .thou wert a scholar, and an
early ripe one, under the roofs builded by the
munificent and pious Colet." Mr. E. V.
Lucas points out that the St. Paul's School
to which R. W. Elliston was sent by his
uncle, the Master of Sidney Sussex College,-
Cambridge, was not that founded by Colet,
but St. Paul's School, Covent Garden.
Joseph Knight in his ' D.N.B.' life of
Elliston says that the author of the epitaph
was the actor's son-in-law Nicholas Torre.
EDWABD BENSLY.
LINES UNDER A CRUCIFIX (12 S. iv. 297 ;
v. 19).- — I have fun across another English
reference to, or rather translation of, the-
old rood -beam inscriptions cited by PROF..
BENSLY. This is to be found in a manu-
script written by Sir Thomas Percy, seventh
Earl of Northumberland, 'declared Blessed
by Pope Leo XIII. in 1895. His Book
of Prayers* was owned by Mr. George
Browne of Troutbeck, Kendal, who most
generously lent it to the Bishop of Hexham
and Newcastle for Ushaw College, Durham ;
and the late Rev. George E. Phillips, always
keenly interested in antiquities, described it
at some length in The Ushaw Magazine of
March, 1898, pp. 35-48. f The verses to be
quoted (they bear no title) come from p. 48
of his paper. It is obvious that they are-
based on the " Effigiem Christi dum transis-
honora." Whether the rendering is the
Earl's own work is unknown ; probably it is-
not his : —
Christs pictur^ humblye worshipe
thow, which by the same doste passe,
yet picture worshippe not, but him
for whome it pictured was.
nor god nor man this Image is, whiche
thow doste present see,
yet whome this blessed Image shewes
bothe god and man is hee :
ffor god is that which Image shewes,
but yet no god it is :
behold this forme ; but worshippe ye
thy mynd beholds in this.
There is another stanza of the same-
length, beginning " O passinge worke of
pietie ! " and a closing couplet.
The original manuscript of Northumber-
land's Book of Prayers is still preserved at
Troutbeck by the ladies of Mr. Browne's
* The authorship is certain. It is established
by Sander, ' Martyrium ' : " Thomae Perci," in
Bridgewater's ' Concertatio,' 1589, f. 46.
+ And again in ' Lives of the English Martyrs,'
ed. Camm, 1905, vol. ii. pp. 183- 5, signed
G. E. P.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 3. V. MAY, 1919.
family. It seems to have been written not
consecutively, but at two periods, separated
by a long interval. The former section is
dated, in one place, 1555 ; the latter section,
in which the verses occur, is a product of the
Earl's imprisonment in Lochleven Castle,
forerunning his martyrdom at York. The
imprisonment lasted from Christmas Eve,
1569, till Aug. 22, 1572. This dates the
Bl. Thomas Percy's lines as at least twenty -
^ight years earlier than those I quoted from
.John Hamilton, ante, p. 20. Known English
versions of PROF. BENSLY'S rood -beam
inscriptions reach, therefore, to within forty
years of the beginnings of the Reformation
fin this country. L. I. GUINEY.
"DRINK BY WORD OF MOUTH" (12 S.
v. 98). — This saying was in common use
'here some sixty years ago. Often a bottle
of beer came into a hayfield unexpectedly.
A search would be made under every coat
and shawl lying on the ground for a glass
or mug to drink: from. Should this search
prove unsuccessful, and no small receptacle
be found to pour the beverage into, then
it was said, " We must drink by word of
mouth." This meant to drink from the
bottle by turns, which naturally gave a
great advantage to the old toper accustomed
to absorb his liquor from the bottle.
The origin of the saying was probably
the Fleet prison, about 9 miles west of our
town ; thus this notorious locality would
make it of Cockney derivation.
It has some authority as used by Thos.
Shadwell (who succeeded Dryden as Poet
Laureate) in his comedy 'The Squire of
Alsatia.' His characters in Act V. sc. i.
speak thus : —
Hackum. But I'll go fetch some
-Cherry Brandy, and that will comfort us.
Here's the bottle, let's drink by Word of Mouth.
Cheatly. Your Cherry Brandy is most sovereign
and edifying.
Shamwell. Most exceeding comfortable after
our Temple pickling.
My copy of the play was printed for
.James Knapton, at the Crown in St. Paul's
Church-yard, 1699. Shadwell died in 1692.
W. W. GLENNY.
Barking.
DICKENS' s TOPOGRAPHICAL SLIPS (12 S.
v. 37). — To the interesting instance con-
tributed by MR. F. A. RUSSELL there can be
added " Tells on' s Bank," so vividly de-
scribed in ' The Tale of Two Cities.' The
novelist, when planning or writing this
work, saw the old bank building of Child
& Co. next to Temple Bar, and, impressed
toy its appearance of great antiquity and
the careful preservation of its antiquated
methods, at once accepted it as a survival
of the period of the story (1780) ; but un-
fortunately the building was of a later date,
having been erected in 1787 (see Hilton
Price's * The Marygold by Temple Bar,'
1902, p. 110), when 2 Fleet Street and a row
of houses called Child's Place were erected
on the site of the old Devil Tavern.
The building described by the novelist
survived until April, 1878, and very many
illustrations of it exist (notably in The
Illustrated London News, Jan. 19, 1878).
That he was not familiar with the history
of the bank and its building is obvious.
Apart from the inaccurate attribution of
date, his reference to the use ot cheques is
at least haphazard ; and surely the romantic
elopement of the bank's heiress Sarah Child,
almost at the period of the novel, would not
have been omitted. Even sixty years
later, when Dickens wrote his vivid pen-
picture, the story must have survived as a
well-preserved tradition of the bank.
ALECK ABRAHAMS.
"CAMOUFLAGE" (12 S. v. 42, 79, 108).—
The Apaches of Paris no doubt did use this
word before the war, but it is doubtful if
they coined it. Sir Israel Gollancz in an
article on ' War Words ' in The Star con-
nects camouflage with camouflet, a well-
known word going back to the fifteenth
century, and originally meaning " a puff
of smoke blown into a man's eyes through
a horn of paper," p«nd hence " a stifler " or
mine of asphyxiating gas or smoke. The
' Grand Dictionnaire Larousse,' Littre, and
Hatzfeld-Darmesteter all give the origin of
camouflet as uncertain, although the last-
named suggests it may be formed of cat,
moufle for mufle, and the suffix et. But the
' Nouveau Larousse Illustre ' mentions a
verb camoufter, meaning to disguise, derived
from the Italian camuffare, to paint the
face. And the ' Larousse Mensuel ' for
July, 1917, derives camouflage from this
verb. DE V. PAYEN-PAYNE.
CHESS : THE KNIGHT'S TOUR (12 S. v. 92).
— B. B. is mistaken in surmising that there
is a " doubt whether it has hitherto been
shown that the tour may start from any
square — that all the squares of the board
will serve the Knight's purpose equally
well." A certain Dr. Roget so long ago as
1840 demonstrated that it can be done in
a twofold manner. One exhibits what may
be described as the re-entering route,
where the initial and final squares are only
one leap apart, no , matter what initial square
12 S. V. MAY, 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
137
may be selected. The other starts from
any prescribed square, and ends on any
prescribed square. Roget's may be de-
scribed as " the diamond square " method.
A full account of it is to be found in ' Amuse-
ments in Chess,' by Charles Tomlinson, 1845.
The phrase " any prescribed square," as
applied to a terminal, must be limited to
those of an opposite colour to that of the
starting-point, when the problem is per-
formed on an ordinary bicoloured chess-
board. This follows from the nature of the
Knight's leap itself. JOHN W. BROWN.
[MR. W. FISHER sends two other diagrams by
which the Knight's tour may be begun on any
square. We have forwarded these to B. B.]
GRIM OR GRIME : ETYMOLOGY OF THE
NAME (12 S. v. 95).— We have Great and
Little Grimsby in Lincolnshire. The name
is said to be derived from a common Danish
name, Grim or Grimr. The legend of Grim
the fisherman, who became lord of the port,
is told in the Old English poem of ' Have-
lok the Dane.' J. T. F.
Winterton, Lines.
In Harrison's ' Surnames of the United
Kingdom.' (1912) we get the origin of the
name as : —
" Grim, Grime (A.-Scand.). 1. Grim, Fierce
(Old English grimm — O. Norse grimm-r).
"2. Mask, Helmet, Spectre (O.E. grima —
O.N. grim-r).
"3. Perhaps Grime has occasionally been con-
fused with Grime (Dan. grim), soot. Hence Dark,
Dirty."
Lower's ' Patronymica Britannica ' says
that Grimm, Grym, is the old Norse Grimr —
grim, fierce, an ancient personal name, and
apparently Scandinavian.
Bardsley's ' Dictionary of English and
Welsh Surnames ' says that Grim was a
common name in England in the thirteenth
century, and accounts for the great number
of place-names beginning with Grim.
ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
The name Grim, which signifies fierce,
terrible, was one of the attributes of Odin,
and Norsemen sometimes attached it to
their children, either simply or in some
compound appellation. It is hardly neces-
sary to remark that it is not infrequent in
local names, Grimsby with its legend of its
founder being the best-known example.
According to the ' Concise Oxford Dic-
tionary,' our adjective grim should be
considered in connexion with the German
grimm and the obsolete grame, angry.
ST. SWITHIN.
Grim or Grime is a not uncommon
name of Norse descent. The eponymous
hero Gryme, from whom Grimsby takes its
name, was a Northerner. It is also a nourv
meaning an evil spirit, goblin, or spectre,,
and wherever the site is connected with,
prehistoric earthworks, it may well be used
in this sense, or perhaps merely to show their
supernatural origin. In Warwickshire, about
a mile north of Coleshill, is Grimstock Hill,
" The Goblin's Post." There is a Grimsburjr
in Berkshire, Grime's Hill and Grime's Pits
in Worcestershire, and so forth. It will also-
be remembered that the cross -bearer of
St. Thomas of Canterbury was a Grim.
J HARVEY BLOOM.
GILT WAND (12 S. v. 97). — This is evi-
dently one of the staves borne by an Earl
Marshal's Gold Staff officer at some corona-
tion or other public function. The arms of
the Earl Marshal are at one end, and the
arms of the temporary " officer " should be
painted at the other end of the staff. A
member of my own family has one of these
staves that was used by her father at the
coronation of Queen Victoria and at the
Duke of Wellington's funeral. vj
W. G. D. FLETCHER, F.S.A.V]
Oxon Vicarage, Shrewsbury.
[ST. SWITHIN also thanked for reply.]
ODESSA IN ROMAN TIMES (12 S. v. 98)
was apparently outside the boundary of the-
Empire. But the kings of the Tauric
Chersonese (Crimea) were faithful vassals
of Rome until dispossessed by the Goths in
the middle of the third century A.D.
A. R. BAYLEY.
THE ' NEW ENGLISH DICTIONARY ' r
CHANGES IN ACCENTUATION (12 S. v. 32r
105). — Does Milton ever intend the accent
to fall on the first syllable of ambitious ?
The only line , in which at first sight he
appears to do so is ' P. L.,' vi. 160 : —
Before thy fellows, ambitious to win ;
but by pronouncing ambitious as a word
of four syllables we avoid the necessity
without, as it seems to me, making the line
un-Miltonic. Infinite, I believe, he always
intends us to accent on the first syllable.
I have not looked up every passage in,
which the word occurs, but usually it
certainly has the customary accentuation,
and ' P. L.,' iv. 74, seems to show that it
should have it where the other might be
regarded as giving the proper scansion. : —
Infinite wrath, and infinite despair.
Surely the word has the same accent ii*
both cases.
138
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 S. V. MAY, 1919,
Manure seems to have had the accent on
tfche first syllable pretty commonly at one
time. In some of our dialects it is still
pronounced so — as if spelt manner.
C. C. B.
"THE DERBY BLUES" (12 S. v. 97).—
' The following extract relating to the
" forty-five " is from a local work of 1906 : —
" The crisis arrived on Tuesday, December 3rd
. . . .About 4 o'clock the volunteers (known as
'The Derby Blues') mustered in the Market
Place, with the intention of marching against the
foe ; but some hesitation manifested itself, and
after several hours' deliberation, the regiment
about 10 o'clock turned its back upon Ashbourne
[where the rebels were reported to have come in],
and marched out of the town by torchlight to
Nottingham, leaving the inhabitants to treat with
the enemy as best they might."
In 'N. & Q.,' 1 S. xii. 252, the editor
mentioned ' The Chronicle of the Derby
Blues ' as a published work, apparently of
circa 1800. W. B. H.
BOUMPHREY FAMILY OF LIVERPOOL AND
MANCHESTER (12 S. v. 67). — Count Bourn -
phre's family in all probability is related
to a Welsh or Lancashire Boumphrey stock,
in view of the fact that this surname is
Welsh in origin — from ap + Humphrey, "the
son of Humphrey," as in many other
instances, viz., Bowen (ap Owen), Price
(ap Rhys), Pugh (ap Hugh), Pritchard
(ap Richard), Upjohn (ap John, literally
Johnson), &c. Boumphrey alternates with
Pumphrey. N. W. HILL.
INSCRIPTIONS AT GIPPING (12 S. iv. 132). —
MR. ANEURIN WILLIAMS inquires as to the
meaning of two inscriptions in Gipping
Church.
1. Amla might be an anagram for Alma
• or Alma Mater, alluding to the Blessed
Virgin as " Ave Maris Stella, Dei mater
alma,'" or to "Alma Salvatoris mater."
2. Dineley in his ' Progress of Henry,
Duke of Beaufort, President of Wa]es,' in
1684, has a statement that a Kemeys of the
family of Cefn Mabley, Glamorganshire,
was Abbot of Bury St. Edmunds in the
time of Henry VII., and, if I remember
rightly, gives his epitaph, which is the one
that in 'A Tour through Suffolk, 1818'
(a revised edition of Kirby's ' Suffolk
Traveller '), is assigned to John Reeve of
Melford, Suffolk. If there was really a
Welsh Abbot of Bury St. Edmunds at or
.about the time when Gipping Church was
built, this might account for the Welsh
inscription, badly spelt by a rustic ma3;on.
H. R.
MR. MEDOP : DR. R. COSIN (12 S. iv. 132,
202).— See 7 S. ix. 448. Miss Medhop, a
King's County heiress, married in 1639
Trevor Lloyd ,of Gloster, King's Co., a
captain in the army.
I have a reference in 1649 to Capt.
Francis, supposed to be the grandson of
Roger Medhop of Medhop Hall, Oxford.
Mr. Medop, Fellow of Trinity College,
Cambridge, is mentioned under 1581 in
' Cal. S.P. Dom., 1581-90.'
R. J. FYNMORE.
A Thomas Medopp, M.A., was Rector of
Hanwell, Middlesex, from Aug. 29, 1575, to
his death in Sept., 1591. Margaret, his
relict, renounced execution of his will on
Oct. 9, 1591, but it was proved on Oct. 17
of the same year. J. W. FAWCETT.
Consett, co. Durham.
CUTTING OFF THE HAIR AS A PRESERVA-
TIVE AGAINST HEADACHE (12 S. iii. 2£0, 207,
484 ; iv. 32). — Under this heading it may
not be entirely amiss to produce the follow-
ing passage from the nineteenth book of
' Han-fei-tsze,' a collection of political
disquisitions of the celebrated Chinese
philosopher Han Fei (killed B.C. 233) : —
" Those who are ignorant of the art of govern-
ment are wont to say, ' We have to gain over
the people's mind.' Now to gain over the
people's mind, thus to govern them, they need
to follow only the rabble's advice, totally dis-
carding the sage counsel of I Ying or Kwan
Chung. But the wisdom of the rabble is as
worthless as the simple children's mind. Should
a child be left with the head unshaved, it would be
attacked with stomach-ache ; should a child be left
with a pustule unopened, the pain would much
increase. Whence the necessity for the mother
to perform the operation with her hands, making
an assistant firmly hold the child, and un-
retarded by its unceasing cries : the child would
unceasingly cry in such a plight, quite unaware
of the certainty of the comparatively small
suf£?ring exacting a large relief."
According to Aoki's ' Kon-yo Manroku,'
1763, the Japanese of his age stuck to the
same opinion as the ancient Chinese — that
to leave the head of children unshaved is
to make them suffer from stomaeh-ache.
KUMAGUSU MlNAKATA.
Tanabe, Kii, Japan.
ROSE OF DENMARK INN (12 S. iv. 326).—
This sign is not mentioned in Lavwood and
Hotten s ' History of Signboards ' (Chatto
i & Windus, 1898). Can the inn at Bristol
| referred to by your correspondent have
been called the Rose of Denmavk from a
ship trading at that port ?
WM. SELF WEEKS.
Westwood, Clitheroe.
12 8. V. MAY, 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
139
AUTHOR'S NAME WANTED : ' RAMBUES
AROUND NOTTINGHAM,' c. 1855 (11 S.
xii. 320). — In ' Biographical Sketches- of
Remarkable People,' by Spencer T. Hall
(1873), is a short notice of Capt. Matthew
Henry Barker, who, under the name of
'" The Old Sailor," wrote works illustrated
by George Cruikshank between 1824 and
1845. Hall says that Barker was
"author of 'Walks round Nottingham' for
-some years editor of The Nottingham Mercury
His later years were spent in London in editing
one of the illustrated papers 1 saw him there
in 1843."
'The ' D.N.B.' notice of Barker (1780-1846)
says that he edited a Nottingham news-
paper, 1827-38, and does not include
'* Walks ' in its list of his works, which
-apparently does not assume to be exhaustive.
If Barker wrote the book mentioned in the
•query, its date would be earlier than there
suggested, unless a reis&ue. W. B. H.
" IRRELAGH ; OR, THE LAST OF THE
CHIEFS " (12 S. v. 69, 105).— The REV. J. B.
McGovERN will find some information about
Miss E. Colthurst, the author of ' Irrelagh,'
In ' Poets of Ireland,' published by Houlston
<fe Stoneman, London, 1849.
WILLIAM MACARTHUR.
Dublin.
PRAGELL FAMILY (12 S. v. 42).— This
surname seerns to be an earlier form of
Prall, which Lower in his ' Patronymica
Britannica ' derives from the Anglo-Norman
pray ell, a little meadow, from French pre, a
meadow, whence prairie, grassland.
N. W. HILL.
AUTHOR OF QUOTATION WANTED (12 S. v. 98). —
If of dull wits this stripling you suspect,
Make him a Herald or an architect,
is a translation of the last two lines of an epigram
of Martial : —
Si duri puer ingeni videtur,
Praeconem facias vel architectum.
V. 56, 10, 11.
The poet is advising a friend on the profession for
which he should train his son. He urges him to
have nothing to do with literature, and to dis-
inherit him if he writes verses. If the lad wants
to take to a pursuit that has money in it, then he
should be trained as a musician. If he seems a
blockhead, then his father should make an
auctioneer or builder of him.
The choice of the less appropriate " Herald " as
the equivalent of prceco, and the use of a capital,
•suggest that the English lines were quoted with a
personal application. The most famous instance
of a man obnoxious to such an attack' is that of
•Sir John Vanbrugh, dramatist, architect, and
'Clarenceux king-at-arms. In his two latter
capacities he provoked much hostile criticism.
EDWARD BENSLY. I
?B00ks,.
Visitation of England and Wales. Vol. XIX.
Edited by Frederick A. Crisp. (Privately
printed.)
Visitation of Ireland. Vol. VI. Edited by
Frederick A. Crisp. (Privately printed.)
IT is with pleasure that we welcome two more
volumes of this valuable modern Visitation. As
in previous issues, the pedigrees are restricted to
the last four generations of the families concerned.
Exhaustive particulars of the family history of
each member are given, which will be invaluable
to future generations. There are forty-two
pedigrees in the ' Visitation of England and Wales,'
viz. : Barnard, Bolt on, Bvrdett, Burrough,
Cazalet, Corder, Cross, Denne, Douglas, Farnham,
Ficklin, Forth, Fripp, Good, Goodman, Gower,
Haversham, Holmes, Jackson, Jex-Blake, Landon,
Lombe, Madan, Nelson, Parmoor, Penny, Pytches,
Hushbrooke, Scott, Staples, Suckling, Surtees (2),
Tarleton, Tennyson-D'Eyncourt. Turney, Walker,
Woollcombe- Adams (2),* Wolseley, WoYthington,
and Zetland . Some of the pedigrees are illustrated
with portraits. There are also armorial book-
plates of William M. Cazalet and Philip B. Ficklin,
the former being one of the productions of
Sherborn.
The ' Visitation of Ireland ' contains thirty
pedigrees, viz. : Ashbourne, Barry, Bellew, Boyle,
Chambers, Coplen-Lanford, Edgeworth, Fairan,
Fox, Gardner-Brown, Higginson, Hurly, Inchiquin,
Lecky, Leslie, Lisle, M'Cance (2). Macanlay, Mac-
Dermot, Magee, Meadows, Morgan, Ogilby,
Plummer, Scott, Shawe-Taylor, Westropp, Wilson,
and Wolseley. Several are illustrated with
armorial book-plates.
The appendix to each volume, consisting of
additions and corrections to previous volumes,
is long and has a sa.d tale to tell of casualties due
to the war. Each volume is also provided with
an excellent index.
In addition to the present interest of these
volumes, they will, no doubt, be of still wider
interest to many other families through inter-
marriages in the future.
Journal of the Folk-Song Society, no. 21 (Vol. VI.
Part I.). (The Society, 19 Berners Street, W.)
THIS number is of special interest, for the editor,
Mr. Frederick Keel, has just resumed his duties
after three and a half years' internment at
Ruhleben. We congratulate both him and the
Society upon the happy termination of his
sufferings.
He has signalized the occasion by contributing
to the present issue a number of songs collected
by Lieut. lolo Williams and himself in 1913 from
the neighbourhood of Haslemere. One of these is
noteworthy as supplying the name of the com-
poser : —
These words were composed by Spencer the Rover,
Who travelled most parts of Great Britain and
Wales.
This was sung by a garden labourer aged 64. He,
however, is a comparative stripling beside Mr.
James Stacey, who sang " The Ten Command-
ments " or " The Twelve Apostles," for he is
83 years of age. The annotations on this old
140
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rhyme are of exceptional interest, and in chide a
long account of the use of the rhyme in Shetland
as a charm-formula against witchcraft. It is
also recorded, that Mr. Cecil Sharp has printed
three interesting American variants of " The Ten
Commandments " in his ' English Folk-Songs
from the Southern Appalachians,' published in
1917.
Miss M. Arkwright contributes a collection of
songs from Kent, and Lady Ashton of Hyde a
collection from Sussex. The Appendix co'nsists
of a note by Miss Lucy Broadwood on " Bango,"
the miller's dog, which she connects wTith the
" bandog " of Shakespeare, Sir Thomas More, and
Spenser. It will be seen that a feast of good
things has been provided.
BOOKSELLERS' CATALOGUES.
MESSRS. MAGGS'S catalogues are always in-
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to the gallows than taking to the road, or few
more excusable, in the good old days when^you
were hung just the same for stealing a few shil-
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ground. Indeed, compared with the stuffy
knights of the shire who drenched the Statute
Book with blood to protect their bribe-gained
guineas, the knights of the road were not only
picturesque but pleasing." Of McAdam's-
' Remarks on the Present System of Road
Making ' he says : " His memory has been badly
used, for the present way of tipping large-sized
lumps of granite over the highway anyhow, and
flattening it out by a steam-roller, *is only a.
caricature of his 'method A really good
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and as wearying to the walker's feet as the foot-
pathless tarred road of motoring banality to-day.'*
The catalogue contains over 900 entries relating,
to all kinds of methods of locomotion — stage
coaches in their prime, the earliest railways, the
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account of the first aerial voyage hi England
1784), motor-cars, and airplanes.
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REV. E. COCKER (Touching Wood). — The origin-
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LONDON, JUNE, 1919
C 0 N T E N T S. — No. 93.
NOTES :— Morlandsand Newcomes, 141 -Byron Apocrypha,
143— Statues and Memorials in the British Isles, 145 —
Bibliography of Histories of Irish Counties and Towns,
147— Philadelphia Link with London— Indentures— Bed-
ford House, Bloomsbury, 148 — Door-Knocker : "Bat"—
Mills at Bransford-Land of Punt — " Flummery "—
Jenner Family, 149.
QUERIES :— Carlyle on the Constellations — " Ronier "
Months— J. Perry, Artist — Forgotten Writers— Daudet's
'Jack,' 150— Pitt and Dundas at New Cross— 'Trilby ':
' Life of Henry Maitland ' : Keys Wanted— Dr. George
Robertson BaiHie— "Get the needle"— John Shakespear
of Ratcliff, 151— Submarine Boat at Paris— Stanhope—
Stoyte Family— Exeter Cathedral Epitaph — Bannister of
Antigua- Alderson, Glass Makers-Carew Tournament
—Richard Hooker's Bust— St. Akelda, 152— Sir Charles
William Taylor, Bt.— Riddle by George Selwyn— Shakes-
peare and the Garden— Old Clockmakers — Jack Straw
and Wat Tyler— Barr Family— Master Gunner— Somerset
Incumbents, 153 — New Chesterfield Letters— Kellond
Surname— Labour and Capital— Wayte Family— Heraldic :
Sable, a Lion Rampant — Mercury drawn by Cocks —
James Cockle, of Cockle's Pills -Tilly Kettle—" Argyles "
or Gravy-Pots— The Houghton Meeting, 154.
REPLIES :— Queen Anne : The Sovereign's Veto : The Royal
Assent, 155— Lilliput and Gulliver, 156 — Westminster
Hall Roof— Aldelima, 12SO, 157— Bluecoat Schools, 1^8—
War Slang—" Macaroni "—Deacon in Love— Hon. Lieut.
George Stewart— Metal-bridge, Dublin — Wright of Elm-
sail. 159— ' Three Black Crows'-Grim or Grime— Bird-
scaring Songs — Hedgehogs, 160— Bishops of the Fifteenth
Century— Rev. Dr. Clenock— Boase Brothers— Biblio-
graphy of Epitaphs, 161— Churches used for the Election
of Municipal Officers— John Miers, the Profilist— New
Shakspere Society's Publications— French Revolution :
" Eat Cake," 162— Alabaculia, Name of a Racehorse-
Byron's Bust at Oxford — "Penniles Bench" — Mews or
Mnwys Family— Good Friday Pleasure Fairs, 163— May—
"Rough" as House -Name — Dickens's Topographical
Slips — " Pro pelle cutem ' — Anthony Todfl, 164— Anguish
Street: "Scores" — George Borrow — Missel Thrush and
Mistletoe Seeds, 165 — "Daverdy "— The Swin— " Rain
cats and dogs"— The 'NED.': Changes in Accentua-
tion—Toad-Juice— Graves planted with Flowers, 166 —
Burt. Miniature Painter— Badulla, Ceylon : Tombstone
Inscription — Hervey or Herver,, 167.
NOTES ON BOOKS:— 'Corn from Olde Fieldes '— • The
Story of Dr. Johnson.'
Booksellers' Catalogues. Notices to Correspondents.
MORLANDS AND NEWCOMES AT
HACKNEY AND BETHNAL GREEN:
BENJAMIN MORLAND,
HIGH MASTER OF ST. PAUL'S SCHOOL.
QUESTIONS have during many years been
directed to ' N. & Q.' respecting the families
of Morland and Newcome and the schools
which they maintained with conspicuous
success in these North London suburbs
during the second half of the eighteenth
century. The evidence which I have accu-
mulated enables me, I think, to set forth
in some detail the history of these families
and their connexion with the schools in
question.
Among the papers of Hackney Parish
ihurch (Y. 163) in the Free Library of that
aorough is a licence to Martin Morland to
e a teacher in his house at Hackney,
Middlesex, dated May 16, 1672. This Martin
Morland was the son of Thomas Morland,
Rector of Sulhampstead Bannister, Berks.
His brother was Sir Samuel Morland, who
was educated at Winchester and Magdalene
College, Cambridge. I have not traced the
places of education of Martin Morland.
The three sons of Mai tin Morland al^
became fellows of the Royal Society.
I cannot find any trace of the schools at
which they were educated or of their having
proceeded to either of the Universities.
Benjamin, who was the eldest son,
carried on his father's school in Hackney
until his election to the High Mastership of
St. Paul's in 1721.
Joseph, the second son, became a doctor
of physic at Epsom ; and Samuel, the
youngest son, became a schoolmaster at
Bethnal Green.
We can dispose of the last first. Samuel
Morland, who was a strict Dissenter, and is
described in ' The Annual Register ' as one
of the best scholars of his time (' N. & Q.,'
8 S. vi. 368), was the schoolmaster i nder
whom Philip Yorke, afterwards Lord Chan-
cellor Hardwicke, was educated, his school
being " at the Blind Beggars House at
Bethnal Green " (Harris, ' Life of Lord
Hardwicke,' pp. 14-22 and 49, where are
two Latin lettters from Morland to Hard-
wicke).
Samuel Morland had two sons — Martin,
of whom I know nothing, and Samuel, a
physician at St. Albans.
Dr. Joseph Morland, the second son of
Martin Morland the schoolmaster, left, I
believe, no issue.
Benjamin Morland is stated in Lysons's
' Environs ' to have been buried in Hackney
Churchyard, but a search failed to discover
his tomb. There is, however, in the Hackney
Public Library a manuscript book of
moumental inscriptions in St. Augustine's,
Hackney, from which I take the following : —
Here lyeth the Body of | Elizabeth Morland |
late wife of | Benjamin Morland | she died on
the j 7th day of November | Anno Domini
MDCCXIX | aetatis suse L.VIII | [Latin inscription
not legible].
H. S. E.
Benjaminus Moreland R.S.S.
Filius Natu Maximus Martini Moreland A.M.
A Quo Latinis Grsecisq: lit'ris eruditus
Optime Patri optimo respondit
Cum bonis artibus animum sedula excoluisset
Dehinc ad graviora studia progressus
Decendi Munus Suscipete statuit
142
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[ise. v. ju«.
Et Qtiinquaginta"*quinque Annos amplius
Primum Kuccinice* in agro Herbfordiensi Oppido
_ De inde in hac Parcecia
Postremum scholae Paulinas Praeceptor
Per duodecim annos primarius
>i*w4rio reipublicae commodo nee fama sua minori
Accurate diligenter et Studiose
Literis ac Moribus ingenuis pueros instituebat
Quorum animos caritate ita sibi conciliavit
[ ,Ut ... actoritatem facilitas non diminuerit
Pietate morum integritate
Et propensa animi benignitate
Notis omnibus carus vixit
Magnum q: sui desiderium reliquit
Obiit in aedibus Paulinis VII. Id. Oct*
A.D. Moccxxxni.
JEtatis suae LXXVI.
In the Hackney Free Library is the
Tyssen Collection, which was formed for
the purpose of accumulating material for
the history of Hackney written by William
Robinson (who was himself educated at
St. Paul's), and published in 1842. In this
collection is a book of newspaper extracts,
amongst which is the following, dated
February, 1730: —
" The gentlemen educated by Mr. Benjamin
Morland, late of Hackney (now High Master of
St. Paul's School), are desired to dine with him
on Wednesday, the 24th instant, at Pontack's in
Abchurch Lane, where tickets are ready to be
delivered at half a guinea each."
Similar notices appear under the dates
Feb. 19, 1731, Feb. 17, 1732, and Feb. 27,
1733, less than nine months before the
schoolmaster's death.
There is also in the collection a press
cutting dated March 24, 1770, relating to a
dinner at the " Thatched House, St. James's,
to the gentlemen educated at Dr. New-
come's in Hackney." Dr. Newcome, as we
shall see, was Mr. Morland' s immediate
successor in the Head Mastership, and was
in his turn followed in succession by two of
his sons and one of his grandsons.
Comparatively little is known of Benja-
min Morland' s tenure of the High Mastership
of St. Paul's. The Surmaster of the school
during the whole time was James Green-
wood, the author of an English Grammar
which went through many editions.
Samuel Knight in the ' Life of Colet '
states that under Morland the school was
" in a very nourishing state" ; but as no
school exhibitions were awarded from St.
Paul's to the Universities for some years
after 1720, the chief source of information
as to its pupils for the period earlier than
1748 — that of its earliest extant registers —
is missing for the whole term of Morland' s
High Mastership. The names, in fact, of
* Hitchin?
only forty of his pupils have been preserved.
They include Thomas Salmon, Bishop of
Ferns ; Charles Pinfold, a Governor of
Barbados ; George North, the well-known
antiquary and numismatist ; Thomas
Broughton, one of the compilers of the
' Biographia Britannica ' ; and William
Boyce, " the Arne of English church
music."
A portrait in oils in St. Paul's School
(reproduced in my * History of St. Paul's
School ') is traditionally supposed to repre-
sent Benjamin Morland. I have recently
found in Allen's ' London,' 1828, vol. iii.
p. 397, a statement that on each side of a
portrait of one Edward Forster in Mercers'
Hall are those of Morland and Richard
Roberts (a later High Master of St. Paul's)
as well as one of Colet on panel. Owing to
the dismantling of Mercers' Hall as a result
of the War, I have been unable to examine
the portraits which are now preserved in it.
The will and codicil of Benjamin Morland,
which I have seen at Somerset House, refer
to four daughters and three grandchildren.
I have drawn up genealogical tables
showing the various members of the Mor-
land and the Newcome families as far as
I have been able to identify them.
Robinson in his ' History of Hackney,'
1842, vol. ii. p. 140, states that Newcome's
School was on the site of the London Orphan
Asylum at Clapton, and that "Henry
Newcome, the father" (this should read
"the son") of the Rev. Peter Newcome,
who was Vicar of Hackney in 1703, having
married the daughter of Mr. Benjamin.
Morland in 1714, succeeded his father-in-law
in the care of this school, which till the
year 1803 was superintended by his grand-
son Mr. Richard Newcome. The Rev. J. C.
Heathcote kept the school after 1803 until
its end, I believe, in 1819 (12 S. i. 313).
Robinson states that Dr. Benjamin Hoadly
and his brother Dr. John Hoadly (who
became Archbishop of Armagh) were edu-
cated at this school, and further states that
in 1751 the Earl of Euston acted in a play
of Terence, and that in 1764 Lord Harring-
ton and Lord Richard Cavendish performed
in plays at the school. The Earl of Euston
was the grandson of the Duke of Grafton.
The advertisement of the sale of school
furniture at Clapton, near Hackney, 1819
(12 S. i. 313), speaks of the former pupils of
the school including " the Dukes of Devon-
shire and Grafton, Lords Robert Cavendish,
George Cavendish, Southampton, Stamford,
Dover, and Hardwicke, Sir Gilbert Heath-
cote, Mr. Pelham, &c." The Duke of Grafton
128. V. JUNE, 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
143
referred to was Augustus Henry, who states
•in his autobiography that he was under
Newcome at Hackney. The Duke of Devon-
shire was the fifth Duke. Henry Caven-
dish, the natural philosopher, was also at
this school. The Lord Hardwicke who has
been mentioned was the second of that
name, the great Chancellor having been, as
we have seen, at Samuel Morland's school at
Bethnal Green.
The four sons of the Lord Chancellor,
the first Lord Hardwicke, were pupils at
the school at Hackney, viz. Philip, who was
born in 1720, and succeeded to the title ;
Joseph, who was born in 1724, and became
known as Col. Yorke ; John, who was born
in 1728: and, James (afterwards Bishop of
Ely), who was born in 1730. Joseph was
greatly praised as an ambassador by Wraxall
(' Life of Lord Hardwicke,' ii. p. 575), and
was created Lord Dover for his diplomatic
services. It seems probable that the
Lord Chancellor sent his eldest son to the
school before Benjamin, the brother of his
own old schoolmaster Samuel, left it for
St. Paul's in 1733.
Reference has already been made to two
members of the Heathcote family. It is of
interest to note that in 1726 Richard New-
• come, afterwards the bishop, the brother of
the first Henry Newcome who succeeded
Morland in the school, received what I believe
was his first preferment, the Vicarage of
Hurley, near Winchester, at the hand^ of
Sir William Heathcote, Bart. (US. vi. 149).
The newspaper cuttings in the Hackney
Library — for access to which I have to
'thank Mr. Clarke, one of the assistant
librarians, in the absence, owing to ill-
health, of Mr. Aldred, the Chief Librarian —
contain lists of distinguished " old boys "
who acted as stewards at the dinners to
which reference has already been made.
Amongst these, in addition to some who
' have already been named, I find the Hon. J.
Grey, the Earl of Sussex, the Hon. John
Leveson Gower, Sir Mann Wyvell, Bart.,
John Hatsell, Esq., Sir G. Boynton, Bart.,
Sir J. W. Lake, Bart., Sir William Young,
Henry Partridge, Lord Ravensworth, Sir
Foi-ster Cunliffe, the Hon. George Hony-
wood, Richard French Chiswell, and Lord
H. Fitzroy.
In conclusion, I may place on record the
fact that the Hackney registers refer to
one Elizabeth Morland who was buried in
1692. This wa^ not the wife of Benjamin,
for she died, as we have seen from her
• epitaph, in 1719. It is possible that she was
1 the sister of Martin.
Another name is that of Esther Morland,
who died in 1799. This, I believe, was
Hester, the daughter of Benjamin Morland.
I cannot identify Mrs. Rhoda Morland,
who died on Aug. 9, 1779, aged 94 ; and
[ have been unable to discover anything
further about John Newcome, who was
married in 1719 ; Margaret Newcome, who
died in 1704 ; or the Rev. A. H. Newcome,
who died in 1787,
MICHAEL F. J. MCDONNELL.
Bathurst, Gambia, British West Africa.
[The pedigrees of the Morlands and the New-
comes mentioned above are too elaborate for
reproduction in ' N. & Q.,' but we shall be pleased
to forward them for inspection to any one in-
terested in the subject.]
THE BYRON APOCRYPHA.
(See ante, p. 113.)
*20. " The Duke of Mantua, A Tragedy. By
London : Printed by Thomas Davison,
Whitefriars, 1823." (This title and imprint
given by W. Nixon in ' N. & Q.,' Sixth Series,
xii. 249.) — In the library of Mr. H. E. Huntington
of New York there is a coi>y of the second edition :
London : G. & W. B. Whittaker, 1833, which I
was allowed to examine ; but when I returned
some time afterwards I found, to my regret, that
the portion of Mr. Huntington's library containing
this drama had been sent to California, where it
is at present inaccessible to me. I am therefore
unable to give any description of the play. On
the centro of the title-page there is a vignette of
Byron holding a mask with his right hand before
his face, which it half covers, and from behind
which he is peeping with his left eye. The book
is apparently very rare ; it is not in the British
Museum ; Miss Greene, Mr. Morgan's librarian,
tells me that she was once offered a copy ; I have
never seen one listed in a bookseller's catalogue.
*21. ' Hannibal.' — There is a reference to a
poem of this title in the 'Life, Writings,' &c.,
iii. 89. The writer describes it as being written
in a light and sarcastic mood and as making
Hannibal " the slave of sensuality." TT« adds
that it is still (1825) in La Guiccioli's hands.
22. ' Don Leon.' — This infamous piece may
date from about 1824-30. In ' N. & Q.,' First
Series, yii. 66 (1853), thore is a description of it.
The writer, I. W., makes this sin^'iL iriy accurate
prophecy : "Is the writer known ? I am some-
what surprised that not one of Byron's friends has,
so far as I know, hinted a denial of the authorship ;
for, scarce as the work may be, I suppose some of
them must have seen it ; and it is possible that a
copy might get into the hands of a desperate
creature who would hope to make a profit, by
republishing it with Byron's and Moore's names
in the title-page." I. W. states that the copy he
has seen " was printed abroad many years
since." In 1866 this prophecy was fulfilled :
" Don Lem : A poem by the late Lord Byron ;
Author of Childe Harold, Don Juan, &c., &c. ;
and forming part of the private journal of his
144
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 S.V.JUNE, 1919.
Lordship, supposed to have been entirely destroyed
by Thos. Moore, [motto] To which is added Leon
to Annabella ; An Epistle from Lord Byron to
Lady Byron. London : Printed for the book-
sellers, MDCCCLXVI." A copy of this little book
is in the possession of Miss E. C. Mayne ; another
in the English Seminar at Erlangen ; a third
(which I have seen) in Mr- Morgan's library. It
seems not to be in the British Museum. See
' N. & Q.,' Third Series, xi. 477, for an inquiry as
to its authorship at the time that it was announced
for publication ; ibid., xii. 137, for statement that,
" owing to some interference, the poem of ' Don
Leon ' has been burked." Miss Mayne does
not seem to know that this 1866 edition is a
reprint (see her ' Byron,' ii. 319). It is said that
John Camden Hotten was the publisher and that
it was he who had practically the entiro edition
destroyed. No detailed description of this piece
is possible ; in dealing with such offscourings of
literature the warning of Virgil to Dante is
applicable :—
Saper d'alcuno e buono :
Degli altri fia laudabile tacerci.
Those who remember the circumstances of thia
warning may get therefrom a hint as to the
subject-matter of ' Don Leon.'
*23. ' Lord Byron to his Lady.' — Begins :
" How strangely." In Galignani 1826 and 1828 ;
not in 1831 or 1835. Where was this first pub-
lished ?
24. ' Lines found in the Traveller's Book at
Chamouni.' — The theme is the contrast in
character, talents, race, and motives of the
visitors to this place. What passion moves the
author of these lines ? Who loves him ? What
friend is faithful to him ? At least he has sxifficient
wisdom to conceal his name. This piece is in
Galignani 1826, 1828, 1831, and even 1835.
25. " All hail, Mont Blanc ! Mont-au-Vert
hail ! "—This is apparently sometimes called
' Lines found in the Album of the Hotel .... at
Chamouni ' ; but it is not to be confused with 24
above. The first appearance of it that I have
noted is in ' Life, Writings,' &c., ii. 384. Of the
Galignani editions it occurs only in 1826. The
theme is : In solitude the poet communes with
Divinity, far from the pride and scorn of men ;
but there is no rest for him until he passes from
time to eternity. Yet he has joys unknown to the
common herd, and will face his destiny till he dies
and is forgotten.
26. ' Stanzas to her who can best understand
them.' — In Galignani 1831 and 1835 ; also in the
one-volume edition of the Works published at
Hartford by Andrus in 1847 and in the reprint
thereof in 1851. The piece is in 18 stanzas, of
which the last will give an indication of the style: —
But — 'tis useless to upbraid thee
With thy past or present state ;
What thou wast, n<y fancy made thee,
What thou art, I know too late.
2, 7. 'To Lady Caroline Lamb.' — Begins : " And
sayst thou that I have not felt." Not to be con-
fused with the genuine " Remember thee." The
spurious piece is not satiric, but loving. Their
love is a crime ; he must try to break the chain ;
she must aid him by dismissing him by her
disdain ; she nrnst fiee from the shame that would
otherwise be her portion ; such thoughts as theirs
are criminal ; and such a crime leads to death.
It is in six stanzas of eight lines each. It is found
in Galignani 1826 and 1828 • Andrus 1847 and
1851.
*28. ' To my dear Mary Anne.' — This piece is
called spurious in Coleridge's index (' Poetry,*
vii. 440), where reference is made tp ibid. iii. 20r
where, however, no mention is made of this piece.
It is said to be in Galignani 1831 and 1835. Is
there a spurious ' To Miss Chaworth ' besides the
genuine "Remind me not"? [See Coleridge'a
index (' Poetry,' vii. 439).
*29. ' Faith, Ix>ve, Wisdom, Power.'— Said to
be in Galignani 1831.
30. ' The Triumph of the Whale.'— In Galignanr
1826, 1828, 1831, and (under the title 'To the
Prince of Whales ') 1835. This satire is by-
Charles Lamb.
31. ' The Four Barbers of Bagdat [sic]. An
Oriental Allegory.' — This prose satire on the
Congress of Vienna is quoted as by Byron in
'Life, Waitings,' &c., ii. 161 f. It 'is a* sort of
parallel to Moore's ' Fables for the Holy Alliance/
Each of four barbers shaved his customers in a
particular fashion, so that each class of client
jeered at the other three classes. Quarrels ensued,
and each class claimed for their mode divine
origin. One roan kept aside from the dispute,,
bantered them all, and was deemed an idiot. At
last there was so much bloodshed that all con-
sented to abide by the fool's decision. This was r
Let each person follow his own taste and compel
the barbers to perform their functions for the
public good. This was done, and peace and
prosperity followed.
*32. " Aroaldo ; Gaddo ; and other unacknow-
ledged poems by Byron and some of his con-
temporaries, collected by O. Volpi, &c." Two-
parts. Dublin : 1836. — This volume, no copy of
which I have discovered in America, is in the
British Museum.
33. Most of the foregoing pieces have at least
the externals of Byronism that enabled them to-
pass current among his minor pieces in piratical
editions of his works. More curious, and in fact
quite inexplicable, is a series of utterly un-
Byronic poems in the volume ' Lord Byron's-
Tnlos,' &c., Halifax : William Milner, 1845. (For
full title see Coleridge's bibliography, ' Poetry,*
vii. 156.) This volume was reissued in enlarged
form in 1864 under the title ' The Choice "Works of
Lord Byron ' (not mentioned by Coleridge) with
the imprint of Milner & Sowerby. According to
Coleridge, the 1845 edition contains twelve-
spurious pieces. This volume I have not s'-en.
The 1864 edition contains ten ; as follows : —
(i.) 'The Illuminated City.'— Three eight-line
stanzas contrasting the brilliance of a city with
the gloom of a battle-field.
(ii.) ' The Wreath.' — Two twelve-line stanzas,
each ending : —
I'll twine for thee a wreath of flowers,
And thou shalt be my love.
(iii.) No title ; four four-line stanzas, beginning
" And shall we bend and bear forever," against
tyranny.
(iv.) ' A Child at Prayer.'— Forty lines, of
which the first two are : —
Kneel, my child, for GcA i« here !
Bend in love, and not m lear.
(v.) " Too late I stayed." — Three four-line
stanzas about a lover who lingered over time.
12 S. V. JUNE, 1919. ]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
145
(vi.) * Love out of place.' — Begins " I'm a boy
• of all work, a complete little servant." Six
'four-line stanzas in a cheap, sprightly vein.
(vii.) * Good-bye.' — Twelve four-line stanzas
of execrably bad allegory.
(viii.) ' The Fair Thief.' — Five six-line stanzas
on a girl who " stole the whiteness of the snow "
.and various other things.
(ix.) ' Lovers Learning.' — Thirteen four -line
stanzas on a lover who does not know much (the
matters on which he is ignorant being specified),
tout who knows how to appreciate Cloe.
(x.) ' Irish Melody.' " She is far from the
land where her young hero sleeps." — This is by
Thomas Moore.
*34. Among the advertisements in La Vie
parisiennc, before the rule went into effect
against copies destined for foreign countries
carrying advertising matter, was a list of English
books (mostly salacious) published by " The
Paris Book-Club." One of the items on this list
is : " Lord Byron's ' Unknown Poems ' (Very
rare). 'If not Byron, the Devil.' (Cloth.)
20 fr." This I have not seen. What does it
contain ?
Besides the above thirty -four items, one
may note two others that really do not
belong in " the Byron Apocrypha." James
Hogg's imitation (not parody, as is so often
stated) of ' Childe Harold ' published in
* The Poetic Mirror,' 1816, under the title
* The Gorilla,' seems occasionally to have
been accepted as Byron's genuine produc-
tion. Mrs. Hemans's 'Modern Greece,' a
poem somewhat in the manner of ' Childe
Harold,' was published by Murray anony-
mously in 1817. It seems occasionally to
have been attributed to Byron. The copy
in Mr. H. E. Huntington's library is
stamped on the binding " By Lord Byron,"
and has a similar attribution written in
pencil on the title-page.
Note finally that the list here submitted
does not include any spurious Continuations
of ' Don Juan,' with which I am to deal
elsewhere. SAMUEL C. CHEW.
Bryn Mawr College, Pennsylvania.
STATUES AND MEMORIALS IN THE
BRITISH ISLES.
(See 10 S. xi., xii. ; 11 S. i.-xii. passim ;
12 S. i. 65, 243, 406 ; ii. 45, 168, 263, 345 ;
iii. 125, 380, 468 ; iv. 69, 207, 294, 319;
v. 89.)
LOCAL WORTHIES (continued).
WILLIAM LAING.
Newcastle-on-Tyne. — At the junction of
the Great North Road and the Jesmond
Dene Road is a combined horse -trough and
drinking-fountain. It is constructed of
red granite and stone, and consists of a
square base containing the water supply,
with the inscription on the west side. It is
surmounted by a short column, and that in
turn by a ball. It was
Erected
by the widow of the late
William Laing
of Newcastle-on-Tyne and Gosforth
in affectionate remembrance of
his lifelong interest in and
kindness to all dumb animals
1895.
COL. COTJLSON.
Newcastle-on-Tyne. — On May 27, 1914, a
drinking-fountain for animals, erected as a
memorial to Col. Coulson, was inaugurated.
It is placed in the Haymarket, nearly
opposite the Palace Theatre. It consists of
two troughs of unpolished Balmoral granite,
surmounted in the centre by a pedestal of
Heworth stone supporting a bronze draped
bust of the Colonel. The' sculptor was
M. Arnold Rechberg of Paris. On the
pedestal is inscribed : —
William Lisle Blenkinsopp
Coulson
1841-1911.
Erected by public subscription in memory of
his efforts to assist the weak and defenceless among
mankind and in the animal world.
The cost of the memorial was about 600Z.
COL. AND THE HON. MBS. WILLIAMSON.
Comrie, Perth. — In a prominent position
on a knoll of Tomperran Hill, near Comrie
railway station, a granite cairn was erected
in 1913 by the inhabitants of the district to
commemorate the celebration of the diamond
wedding of Col. and the Hon. Mrs. Williamson
of Lawers. It is 22 ft. high on a base 10 ft.
square. Lady Dundas performed the un-
veiling ceremony. On a slab of Peterhead
granite is the following inscription : —
" Erected by the inhabitants of Comrie and
Monzievaird, and numerous other friends, to
commemorate the diamond wedding of Colonel
Williamson and the Hon. Mrs. Williamson of
Lawers, celebrated on the 6th January, 1913. A
lasting token of brotherhood, and a mark of
gratitude and affection for their self-denying
labours in the public interest and their many acts
of private kindness during sixty years of married
life."
CLAUDE MITCHELL.
Rugby. — In 1916 a massive drinking -
trough of polished granite was placed in the
Cattle Market by Mrs. Mitchell of Thurlaston
Grange in memory of her husband. It is
inscribed in gold letters on the front : —
" In Memory of Claude Mitchell, 1916."
146
NOTES AND Q UEKIES. ti2 s. v. JUNE, 1919.
ALDERMAN MORRISON.
Donnybrook, co. Dublin.— In the centre
of the Cross Roads is a granite obelisk
inscribed as follows : —
N. MDCCCXXXVIII I Erected | to the | Memory
I of I the late | Alderman | Arthur I Morrison.
E. As | Lord May->r | of the city of | Dublin |
he was | respected | and | esteemed.
S. He was | a | sincere | friend | charitable |
kind I and I generous.
W. As a | Christian | and | Citizen | there were
| few to | equal | none to | surpass him.
Miss CASSELL.
Kew, Surrey. — In February, 1904, a stone
seat was placed among the beech trees on
the south side of Kew Gardens. It was
presented by friends in memory of Miss
Cassell, who for twenty years was super-
intendent of the College for Working Women.
It contains the following inscriptions : —
Li!e — too gjit.
Let -as tak-3 our hands and help, this day we are
alive together.
Look up on high, and tbank the God ot all.
WIRE, SMYTH, AND 'VINT.
Colchester. — Among the marble busts at
the Town Hall are the following : —
Alderman David Wire, Lord Mayor of
London 1859. Born at Colchester 1800.
Died 1860. (Presented by Mr. A. O. Stopes.)
Sir George Henry Smyth, Bart., M.P. for
Colchester 1825-50. Died 1852. (Presented
by Mr. Wm. Peck.)
Henry Vint, Mayor of Colchester 1843-4.
(Presented by Mr. H. Goodyear.)
MR. AND MRS. G. D. COLLINS.
Wisbech. — This memorial fountain is
erected in the Old Market from designs by
Mr. H. H. Armstead, R.A. It was unveiled
by the donors, Mrs. S. J. Pocock and Mrs.
Prankard (daughters of Mr. and Mrs. Collins).
The main structure is of red Mansfield stone,
the water vases and panels being of Sicilian
marble. Above the horse-trough is in-
scribed : " The righteous man regardeth the
life of his beast" (Proverbs xii. 10). In
front are two panels, one of which depicts
gurnards playing in the water and bears the
following line from ' Timon of Athens ' : —
Honest water which ne'er left man i' the mire.
The other is thus inscribed : —
" Erected in memory of George Duppa Collinfe
and Mary Anne Collins, for many years resident
in -this town, by their loving daughters."
Mr. Collins was for a long tune clerk to the
Wisbech Board of Guardians.
RICHARD YOUNG.
Wisbech.— In the park near the Lynn?
Road is a memorial to Alderman Young
consisting of a column and a drinking -
fountain. It was inaugurated Oct. 31, 1872,.
in the presence of the Lord Mayor of London
(Sir Sills Gibbons) and the Sheriffs. It cost
about 300Z., being constructed from designs
by Mr. J. Wallis Chapman of London. It
was blown down during a gale on Dec. 11,
1883, and eventually re-erected with slight
alterations to ensure its stability. The-
base is thus inscribed : —
Memorial to
Aid. Bichard Young, .T.P., D.L.,
Born 1809. Died 1871.
M.P. for Cambridgeshire 1865-1868. .
Mayor of Wisbech 1858-1863.
Sheriff of London and Middlesex 1871.
Erected by Subscription 1872.
Fredc. Ford, Mayor.
Bestored 1885.
Fredc. Poatling, Mayor.
" Indignante invidia florebit Justus. "
JACKSON FOUNTAIN.
Wisbech. — This fountain, erected in the-
Market Place, was provided by a legacy
from the Rev. Henry Jackson, Vicar of
Wisbech St. Mary, to perpetuate the
memory of his parents, the Rev. Jeremiah
Jackson and Mrs. Jackson. It was opened
by the Mayor, Alderman J. W. Stanley, OIL
Oct. 27, 1879. Over the horse-trough is
sculptured a representation of Arabs watering:
their horses. Over the drinking-fountain is
inscribed : —
" The Gift of Henry Jackson, M.A., 1878."
JOHN BATCHELOR.
Cardiff. — In front of the Free Library is a-
bronze statue of John Batchelor. He is
represented bareheaded, in the act of
speaking, with right hand outstretched..
The pedestal is thus inscribed : —
John Batchelor
B. 1820 D. 1883
The Friend of Freedom.
ALEXANDER BROWN.
Daventry.— On Oct. 25, 1916, Councillor
T. Brown of Birmingham inaugurated a gift
to the borough of Daventry of new entrance
gates and boundary wall to the Recreation
Ground. It was provided by means of a-
clause in the will of his brother, Mr. Alex. A.
Brown of Birmingham, a native of Daventry.
The work was designed by Mr. A. Harrison
(brother-in-law), and carried out by Messrs,
128. V. JUNE, 1919.J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
147
TBosworth & Wakeford. The wall is con-
structed of Hornton stone, and is surmounted
T3y ornamental iron railings. The motive of
-the design is the spire of the parish church,
each pier in the fence being crowned with
;a pinnacle and ball. The central porch is
arched, and roofed with a copper dome.
On the face of the arch are carved scenes
•depicting the sport of coursing, a recreation
to which the donor was ardently devoted.
On a panel over the centre is simply in-
scribed : —
A. A. B.
1916
ALDERMAN BANNISTER.
Hull.— On Oct. 15, 1879, a marble statue
of Alderman Bannister, the chief promoter
•of the Hull and Withernsea Railway and the
Hull tramways, was unveiled by Alderman
Waller, Mayor of Hull. It was sculptured
by Mr. Keyworth, jun., a native of the town,
and represents the late Alderman clad in his
robes of office. The pedestal is thus
inscribed : —
" Anthony Bannister, Justice of the Peace,
.Alderman, twice Mayor, twice Sheriff, and thirty-
three years an active member of the Corporation
of Hull. Born April 4, 1817 ; died July 18, 1878.
Erected by subscription in recognition of his
•public spirit, kindness of heart, generous character
^and unremitting zeal for his native town."
DR. HITCHMAN.
Leamington. — Near the North Lodge in
the Jephson Gardens, and flanking the main
road, is a large ornamental fountain. It was
erected by public subscription in 1863 to the
memory of Dr. John Hitchman, a well-known
local surgeon and a large benefactor to the
town. He was one of the principal pro-
moters of the rebuilding of the parish
-church, 1843-9. The inscriptions on the
•central granite column and on the rim of the
lower basin are now practically obliterated.
All that is left is the bare statement that it
-was erected " in memory of John Hitchman,
1863."
JOSEPH LOCKE.
Barnsley. — Joseph Locke was born a*
Attercliffe ^Aug. 9, 1805. When he was
five years old his parents removed to Barns-
Iley, and he received his education at
Barnsley Grammar School. He was trained
under George Stephenson, and ultimately
became a famous railway engineer. He
was M.P. for Honiton in 1847, and died
Sept. 18, 1860, being buried in Kensal Green
•Cemetery (square 99). His statue by Baron
Marochetti was designed for St. Margaret's
Oardens, Westminster, but was eventually
placed in Locke Park, Barnsley. It was
surrounded by a heavy stone balustrade in
1877. Mr. Locke is represented bare-
headed, and clad in ordinary civilian attire,
wearing a frock coat. The pedestal merely
contains his name : —
JOSEPH LOCKE.
The park, formerly known as High Stile
Field, was presented to Barnsley by his
widow. A tower was eventually erected in
the park, and on it is a tablet bearing the
Locke arms, flanked by interlaced mono-
grams, and the following inscription : —
In memory of
the Donor of the Locke Park
Phoebe, widow of Joseph Locke, M.P.
this Tower was erected
and 20 acres added to the Park
by her sister
Sarah McCreery A.D. 1877.
Near the statue is a circular fountain.
Entrance is gained by a small doorway, and
on the exterior are three tablets inscribed : —
1. Erected by the
working men of
Barnsley 1877.
2. A tribute of
gratitude to
Miss McCreery
3. S.M.C., L.P.B. and a shield bearing the
Locke arms.
A window was erected to Locke's memory
in the north aisle of Westminster Abbey.
JOHN T. PAGE.
Long Itchington, Warwickshire.
[MR. W. MACARTHUR of Dublin informs us
that he was one of MR. PAGE'S collaborators, and
that he has various memoranda on the subject
which he hopes to contribute to 'N. & Q.']
BIBLIOGRAPHY OF HISTORIES OF
IRISH COUNTIES AND TOWNS.
(See 11 S. xi. 103, 183, 315 ; xii. 24, 276,
375 ; 12 S. i. 422 ; ii. 22, 141, 246, 286,
406, 445, 522; iii. 336.)
SINCE my article appeared at the last
reference I have noted the following addi-
tions to the subject : —
Aran Islands. — Lawless (Emily). Grania. 1894.
Ardaqh (Longford). — Monahan (John). Ardagh.
Athlone.— Joly (J. S.). The Old Bridge of
Athlone. 1881.
Belfast. — Ramsey (S.). Two Papers on the Early
History of Belfast. 1889.
Young (B. M.). Belfast and the Province of
Ulster in the Twentieth Century. 1909.
Clontarf (Dublin). — Drummond (William). Clon-
tarf : a Poem. 1822.
Hime (Mrs. M. C. B.). Brian Boru and the
Battle of Clontarf. 1889.
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Cork. — Caulfield (Richard). Rotulus Pipae
Clonensis. 1869.
Dalkey. — Dalkey Sixty Years Ago (Illustrated
Dublin Journal, 1861-2, pp. 475-7).
Dublin. — Atkinson (Sarah). Essays. 1806.
Ball (F. E.). The Vicinity of the Irish Inter-
national Exhibition. 1907.'
Chart (D. A.). The Story of Dublin
(" Mediaeval Towns "). 1907.
Fitzpatrick (S. O.). Dublin (" Ancient
Cities "). 1907.
Dundrum (Down). — Phillips (J. J.). Annals and
Archaeology of Dundrum Fortress. 1883.
Inishowen (Donegal). — " Maghto chair." Inish-
owen. 1867.
Kilkenny. — Robertson (J. G.). Antiquities and
Scenery of the County of Kilkenny. 1851.
Kilmallock. — Croker (T. C.). Historical Illsutra-
tions of Kilmallock. 1840.
Lisburn. — Bayly (Henry). A Topographical and
Historical Account of Lisburn. 1834.
Lucan. — Joyce (W. St. John). Lucan and its
Neighbourhood. 1901.
Monaghan. — Rushe (D.C.). Historical Sketches
of Monaghan.
St. Mullins. — O'Lcary (Patrick). St. Mullins.
1913.
Strabane. — Campbell (A. A.). Notes on the
Literary History of Strabane. 1902.
Waterford. — Fitzpatrick (Thomas). Waterford
during the Civil War. 1912.
The Cochrane collection in the Rathmines
Public Library, Dublin, is very rich in books
dealing with Ireland. J. ARDAGH.
35 Church Avenue, Drumcondra, Dublin.
PHILADELPHIA LINK WITH: LONDON. — In
the manuscripts preserved at the Guildhall
Library I came across this entry of a
mural inscription at St. Botolph's Church,
Aldersgate : —
" In the vaii It of this church are deposited the
Remains of Miss Catharine Mary Meade, daughter
of George Meade, Esq. of Philadelphia, North
America, who departed this life the 18th day of
January, 1790, in the 21st year of her age.
* * * *
Transferred from Pennsylvania's friendly coast
A father's blessing and a mother's boast
On Albion's sea-girt shore an early fate
Postponed each transport to a future state
Death raised a barrier to each tender scene
More fatal than the waves that roll between.
This church has a special interest, for
within its parish, and indeed almost within
sight of it, wa^ produced the 1623 edition
of Shakespeare. WM. JAGGARD, Capt.
INDENTURES. — I do not regard Old Testa-
ment Scripture from the same point of view
as Sir James Frazer, but his work on its
folk-lore, and a great deal besides, meets a
desire for knowledge and introduces new
points for thought. ' N. & Q.' is not the
proper medium for the discussion of those
that are of the most importance, but a trifle
has struck me which may be fitly mentioned
in its pages. When considering the covenant
with Abraham, and the ceremony of the
divided sacrifice by which it was confirmed
(a procedure still apparent in the procedure
of many peoples), Sir James remarks that
this was the regular form observed on such
occasions in early times
" is strongly suggested by the Hebrew phrase for
making a covenant, which is literally to * cut a
covenant,' and the inference is confirmed by
analogies in the Greek language and ritual, for tbe-
Greeks used similar phrases and practised similar
rites. Thus they spoke of cutting oaths in the
sense of swearing them, and of cutting a treaty
instead of making one. Such expressions, like
the corresponding phrases in Hebrew and Latin, -
are undoubtedly derived from a custom of
sacrificing victims and cutting them in pieces asr
a mode of adding solemnity to an oath, or a-
treaty."— Vol. i. pp. 302, 303.
This leads me to wonder whether our current
indentures, parchments with an indented or
wavy margin, are survivals of the practice
of parting a sacrificed animal's carcase
between those concerned in a contract — the
parties as we still call them. Originally the
notched edges of one copy of an indenture
fitted into those of its correspondent.
I am a little surprised that, as far as 1
remember, Sir James Frazer does not claim
as a variant of the ceremonial of the Abra-
hamic covenant the passing through blood at
the time of the Paschal celebration. " They
shall take of the blood and strike it on the
two side posts and on the upper door post of
the house. ' ' To go through that doorway may
have been intended as a symbol of passing;
through a slaughtered animal, the Passover
Lamb to wit. ST. SWITHIN.
BEDFORD HOUSE, BLOOMSBTJR.Y :
1800. — The sale of the contents of this
house was commenced by James Christie
on Monday, May 5, and continued over the
five following pays. The catalogue is rare,
but the auctioneer's copy, printed on a-
heavier paper and interleaved, is preserved
in the National Art Library. The sale
appears to have proceeded much as other
sales. The auctioneer had commissions
for various buyers, and bought in many lots
for the Duke of Bedford, but the catalogue
disproves completely the ridiculous story
quoted by Peter Cunningham ( ' Handbook
for London,' 1849, i. 71): "A casual,
dropper -in buying the whole of the furniture
and pictures ____ for the sum of £6,000."
When Cunningham's text came to be
revised by the late Mr. Wheatley ( ' London
Past and Present '), he wisely discredited the*
story, but omitted to correct the other data.
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149
of the sale. The title of the sale catalogue
only claims this to be " of part of the Elegant
Household Furniture," &c. ; and the only
building material offered, and which as a
matter of fact was bought in, consisted of
the fireplace.?, " Chimney Pieces and Slabs ;
Plate-Glass Sashes ; Seasoned right Dutch
-Oak Floors ; Portland Stairs and Paving."
ALECK ABRAHAMS.
DOORKNOCKER: "BAT." — I have seen
on several doors here in Yorkshire a knocker
fashioned to represent a bat, sometimes with
outstretched wings.
The whole point of the design is that a
bat is a dialectal word used here in the
North with the sense of a knock. " Shoo
gav him a bat on his lug-hoil," i.e., she
.boxed his ear. J. H. .R.
Bradford.
MILLS 'AT BRANSFORD, WORCESTERSHIRE'
— It may be noted that the mills on the
Hiver Teme at Bransford, erected about the
year 1850, which mark the site of the ancient
mills, have been recently pulled down ; and
the water rights have been acquired by the
Worcester Corporation, so that these may
become subservient to the flow of water
required lower down at Powick for the
Corporation electrical works. The mills
have been derelict about twenty years.
In Domesday it is mentioned that there
are two mills in Lege (Leigh), of which
parish Bransford is part, one evidently
being that succeeded by the mill near the
•church, and also that " Urso the sheriff has
at Bradnesford, in Leigh, a mill worth twenty
shillings : it is worth four pounds." The last -
mentioned mill was the predecessor of the
'mills now in course of disappearance.
OBSERVER.
THE LAND OF PUNT. — In Uganda the i
natives appear to call the coast " Pwani "
('Mackay of Uganda,' 1890, p. 208). Has
this word Pwani any connexion with the i
Egyptian name of Punt, supposed to be
the Phut of the Book of Genesis and the
home of the Phoenicians ? The addition of
the Egyptian terminal t at once makes it
Pwanit, which is identical with Puanit, as
Prof. Maspero read the Egyptian name
(' The Dawn of Civilization,' p. 396). The
late A. H. Keane (' Man,' 1899, p. 494, note)
explains Punt as " Red Land." Whether it
means " red land " or " coast," it would
; appear rather to be a topographical ex-
pression than the distinctive name of a
particular country. Some light might be
tthrown on this subiect by knowing how
the words " coast " and " red land " would
be written in the ancient Sabsean and
Ethiopic languages. It is by piecing
together such fragments that we are able
to build up the history of the far-distant
past. The Waganda probably derived the
word " Pwani " from the Arabs and their
followers ; and the Arabs are the descendants
of the Sabseans of old, the dwellers in South
Arabia, the Arabia Felix of later Roman
times, who were not distant kinsmen of the
Phoenicians. FREDERICK A. EDWARDS.
34 Old Park Avenue, Nightingale Lane, S.W.
"FLUMMERY." — I came across this word
in North Wales, but could not get much
information about it at the time, except that
it was "something to eat." The ' N.E.D. '
says it is "a kind of food made by coagula-
tion of wheat flour or oatmeal." After
considerable search I have gleaned the
following information, which is worth
recording. The Welsh call it llymru, the
English flummery. It is a vegetable^ mucil-
age, and is made by adding as much water to
finely ground oatmeal as it can well absorb,
to which some sour butter-milk is added ;
in three or four days' time more warm water
is put in to make it thin enough to be strained
through a hair sieve ; it is then boiled, after
which it is ready for use. The slight fer-
mentation which it undergoes gives it a
pleasant acidity, which contrasts well with
the sweelbness of the milk with which it is
generally eaten. L ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
JENNER FAMILY. — At 11 S. vi. 469 I drew
attention to the obituary notice of " the
widow of the celebrated Dr. Jenner " in
Gent. Mag., vol. ciii. p. 284, which stated that
she died at the residence of '' her son-in-law,
Mr. Eccles, Plymouth."
Mr. W. Soltau Eccles wrote to me on.
Jan. 31, 1914, that his
" paternal grandmother was a Miss Harriett
Jenner, and she married Mr. John Eccles, and
they at one time lived in Princes Square, Ply-
mouth. Miss Harriett Jenner was a cousin of
Dr. Edward Jenner of Gloucestershire."
Mr. George H. Eccles, of Sherwell House*
Plymouth, also wrote about the same time ;
he expressed the opinion that the obituary
notice must be an error : —
" The Mr. Eccles of Plymouth was probably
my grandfather, who married a Miss Jenner, who
survived him some years. I never heard through
any of my relatives of a widow of Dr. Jenner
dying at Plymouth, and have always understood
my grandmother (nee Jenner) was only distantly
related to Dr. Jenner. I think I should have been
told if a widow of his, who must have been a
second wife, had died under my grandfather's
roof. I do not, however, know much about the
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Jenner family. I came across a paper purporting
to record the names, &c., of the children o
' Josiah .Tenner and Hester his wife,' the eldest
being baptized in July, 1678, and the youngest in
April, 1698, there being nine children in all. ]
daresay you know this already, but what con-
nexion there may be with my late grandmother
I do not know. It would interest me to hear if
you have any data as to these or any other of the
•Jenner family."
On April 21, 1914, Mr. Eccles very kindly
sent me a copy of the list of baptisms of the
children of Josiah and Hester Jenner, as
follows : —
Josiah, son, bapt. July, 1678.
Stephen, son, bapt. Dec. 30, 1680.
Hester, daughter, bapt. Jan. 18, 1682.
Ansell, son, bapt. March 22, 1684. [Anselme,
buried July 25, 1685.]
Mary, daughter, bapt. July 16, 1686. [Buried
July 18, 1686.]
""Thomas, son, bapt. Dec. 26, 1687.
Robert, son, bapt. Oct. 12, 1690.
Elizabeth, daughter, bapt. Aug. 6, 1693.
Gyles, son, bapt. April 9, 1698. [Buried
Dec. 24, 1699.]
*Did this Thomas become President of
Magdalen in 1747 ? R. J. FYNMORE.
Sandgate, Kent.
WE must request correspondents desiring in-
formation on family matters of only private interest
to affix their names and addresses to their queries,
in order that answers may be sent to them direct.
CARLYLE ON THE CONSTELLATIONS. — The
Introduction to Allen's ' Star-Names and
their Meanings ' has this : —
"For almost all can repeat Thomas Carlyle's
lament : ' Why did not somebody teach me the
constellations, and make me at home in the starry
heavens, which are always overhead, and which I
don't half know to this day !'"
Several other works on Pistronomy have
copied the lament, but much study of
Froude and other biographers fails to throw
light upon this story. Under what circum-
stances did the Sage of Chelsea utter these
words ? THOMAS FLINT. ' .
Concord, New Hampshire.
" ROMER " MONTHS. — Clarendon in his
* History of the Rebellion ' (vol. iii. part ii.
p. 718) twice refers to the above : " A
subsidy of four romer months " ; and later,
" by the romer months." The new Oxford
Dictionary does not help, neither does Sir
Harris Nicolas in his ' Chronology ' ; and up
to now ' N. & Q.' is silent as to the definition
of "romer." Will some reader kindly
supply it ? R. B.
Upton.
J. PEREY, AKTIST. — Could any Gf your •
readers give me information ir» respect to art
artist known as J. Percy ? I have a wax
figure about 7 in. high, framed, and set up
with realistic perspective surroundings, as a
picture. The date appears to me to be about
1780. GEOEGE HUBBAKD, F.R.I.B.A.
112 Fenchurch Street, E.C.3.
FORGOTTEN WRITERS. — In 'Selections
from the British Poets,' printed and pub-
lished in two volumes in 1859 by directiort-
of the Commissioners of National Education,
Ireland, I find excerpts from poets whose-
names I have never heard.
Perhaps some one may give me the dates
of the birth and death of the following:-
Frances Browne. Mary Anne Browne. James
Callanan. Edward Carrington. Margaret M..
Davidson. Elizabeth Dickenson. George-
Washington Doane. Mrs. Duncan, author
of 'School-Room Lyrics' (London, 1846).
James Hall. Mrs. Elizabeth Hawkshaw,.
author of 'Poems for my Children.' John,
Houseman. Edward Johnson. Jacob Jones,,
author of ' The Anglo-Polish Harp ' (London^.
1836). John Mudie. Cornelius Neale. Caro-
line F. Orne. Mary Patterson. T. Polwhele.:
WTilliam Henry Whitworth.
Also of the following Americans : Jane-
Oilman. William B. O. Peabody. Corne-
ius Webbe.
Also of the Swede James Ingelgren ; and
of the Germans Newffer, William Newbeck,,
and Schmolek.
Please reply direct.
JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT. .
Union Club, Trafalgar Square, S.W.I.
DATJDET'S ' JACK ' : ILLUSTRATIONS BY'
MYRBACH. — I have been re-reading this old
avourite in the paper-covered edition pub-
ished by Ernest Flammarion (Paris, n.d.),.
' illustrations de Myrbach." When did
these illustrations first appear ? I find that
hey were used in an English translation
by L. Ensor (Routledge, I860). No doubt
:hey are excellent, but are they correct in,
:heir portraiture of the hero in his child-
lood ? The author lays stress on Jack's
' grandes boucles blondes " (p. 18 ; cp.-
pp. 25, 37, 48). As the story opens in*
1858, I took " boueles " to mean long;
ringlets ; but the artist draws the boy with*
a thick mass of hair, somewhat after the^
'ashion of Little Lord Fauntleroy (pp. 2, 3r
30, 81, and cover). Did any little boys in..
France wear their hair in this fashion in.
L858 ? As I was not born until a later
date, I write subject to correction ; but
[ believe that in England all boys with long.
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hair wore it in ringlets. Certainly 1 never
saw the Fauntleroy style until after the
publication of Mrs. Hodgson Burnett's
famous book (1886).
This leads to another question : when
were Jack's curls cut off ? It is curious
that a man possessing such knowledge of,
and sympathy with, boys as Daudet,
should not mention what his hero would
have thought one of the greatest events in
his life. The artist evidently supposed
that Jack was cropped shortly after going
to the Gymnase Moronval (cp. illustration
on p. 85). But on p. 119 Jack is described
as " ce bambin boucle." In the English
version referred to above this is rendered
by " this curly-headed boy " ; but to make
Jack's hair curly contradicts both the
author — for on p. 80 Jack tells Madou
that "on me frisait tous les jours" — and
the artist, who always draws the boy's hair
as straight after it has been cut short.
The only later allusion, I think, is in the
description of the hero on his arrival at
Indret : " Les treize ans de Jack gardaient
en effet une tournure un peu feminine.
Ses cheveux blonds, quoique coupes, avaient
de jolis plis, ce tour caressant donne par
les doigts de la mere " (p. 302). Do the
vague words " quoique coupes " imply
that his curls had just been cut off for the
journey, or merely that they had been
cropped at some indefinite time in the past ?
Is there any record of what Daudet in-
tended ?
To pass from Jack's hair to his dress,
the drawing on p. 241 contradicts the text
on the same page, where we read that
Charlotte was " suivie de Jack, auquel elle
avait remis le costume favori de Lord
Peambock, rallonge pour la circonstance,
mais encore trop court." This " costume
anglais " (p. 243) is clearly the kilt of
chapter i. ; but the artist portrays Jack in
trousers.
I believe that many of Daudet' s characters
were drawn from life. Had little Jack a,
prototype ? G. H. WHITE.
23 Weighton Road, Anerley, S.E.
PITT AND DUNDAS AT NEW CROSS. — In
his little book ' The Dover Road,' 1907,
Mr. C. G. Harper says : —
" It was at the Golden Cross, New Cross, that
Pitt and Dundas, overtaken on the road from
Dover to London by bad weather, put up for the
night, and drank seven bottles of port apiece
before they went to bed."
What is the authority (if any) for this
remarkable statement ?
PHILIP NORMAN.
' TRILBY ' : ' LIFE or HENRY MAITLAND ' :
KEYS WANTED. — In the past ' N. & Q.' has
printed keys to many well-known works.
Is it too soon to ask for 1he real names of
the characters in Du Maurier's novel ?
" Little Billee," I have read or heard, was
founded on Frederick Walker. Did not
Whistler insist on one of the illustrations
being altered, as he was represented in too
lifelike a guise ?»,
Another work to which one would like to
have a key is Mr. Morley Roberts' s ' Life of
Henry Maitland,' which is reputed to
represent the life of the late George Gissing.
DE V. PAYEN-PAYNE.
DR. GEORGE ROBERTSON BAILLIE. — I seek
genealogical details of the ancestry and
descendants of George Robertson Baillie, a
son of John Baillie, a merchant in Edinburgh.
Dr. Baillie was born about 1765, in or near
Edinburgh. He practised as a doctor in.
St. Vincent, and subsequently (after 1793) at
Coventry. He had an uncle Thomas Baillie
who became a colonel, and died in India
Any information will be appreciated.
JAMES SETON-ANDERSON.
18 Culverden Down, Tunbridge Wells.
" GET THE NEEDLE." — In the course of a
theatrical lawsuit in the King's Bench
Division in February last, before Mr. Justice
McCardie, one of the defendants, a "coloured"
music-hall comedian, in giving evidence,
said : "I got the needle and came out." It
.would be interesting to know if this slang
term for taking offence has been traced to its
origin. J- R- •"••
JOHN SHAKESPEAR OF RATCLIFF HIGHWAY.
—I am anxious to find the ancestors of John
Shakespear of Ratclift Highway, ropemaker,
born about 1612-19. Mr. G. R. French in
' Shakspeareana Genealogica,' p. 554, sug-
gests that John Shakespear of Ratcliff
Highway may have been the John, son of
Thomas Shakespeare, gent., whose baptism
is recorded in the registers of St. Gregory
by St. Paul's, July 18, 1619. Mr. French
says this Thomas is apparently the £ame as
Thomas Shakspere of Staple Inn, 1604-7,
who is entered as " de Lutterworth in Com.
Leic., gent.," and who, Mr. French considers,
was the Thomas Shakspeare of Lutterworth
who in 1597 acted as agent for William
Glover (see ' N. & Q.,' 1 S. vii., April 5, 1853
and who, Mr. French thinks, may have been
a son of Thomas Shakespeare of Snitterfield.
Mrs. Charlotte Stopes in ' Shakespeare s
Family,' p. 158, suggests a possible descent
for John the ropemaker from Henry Shake-
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speare of Snitterfield. On p. 144 of the same
book it is mentioned that the baptism of
Thomas, son of Mathew Shakespere, is
recorded in the registers of Christ Church,
Newgate Street, on April 7, 1583. This
Thomas may be the Thomas gent., whose
son John was baptized in St. Gregory by
St. Paul's. I have been unable to find any
other likely father for John the ropemaker.
Any information or any hints as to lines of
inquiry likely to produce satisfactory results
will be welcome.
JOHN SHAKESPEAR.
c/o Grindlay & Co.,
54 Parliament Street, S.W.I.
SUBMARINE BOAT AT PARIS. — I shall be
glad to know the name and date of the
French illustrated newspaper — about 1848-
1850 — in which was an engraving of a sub-
marine boat destroyed when on crial on the
Seine at Paris. Some very interesting
information is given. The copy which
I had of this paper — bought in 1915 — was
destroyed in error before I had translated
the information. HERBERT SOUTHAM.
STANHOPE. — I should be glad of any
information concerning the following Stan-
hope? who were educated at Westminster
School : —
1. Charles, admitted in 1736, aged 10.
2. Edwin, admitted in 1742, aged 13.
3. Henry (described a> son of Henry
Stanhope of Derby), who graduated B.A.
at Cambridge from Trin. Coll. in 1710.
4. Langdale (described as son of George
Stanhope of Pontefract), who matriculated
at Oxford from Ch. Ch. in 1710, and became
D.C.L. in 1728. G. F. R. B.
STOYTE FAMILY. — Mrs. Ann Stoyte died
in 1766. She had a nephew, Capt. Robert
Finlay of Dublin, who died in 1766. I should
appreciate further particulars about them,
and also about the relationship with John
Stoyte, of Stoyte House, Kildare, in 1780.
E. C. FJNLAY.
1634 Hyde Street, San Francisco, California.
EXETER CATHEDRAL EPITAPH. — In the
north-ea^t angle of the north transept of this
cathedral is the chantry of William Sylke,
LL.D., precentor of the cathedral and
Prebendary of Crediton, with the hexa-
meter : —
Sum quod eris, et eram quod sis, pro me, precor,
ora.
This is a common pre-Reformation epitaph.
What is the earliest extant ? Sylke is said
to have died in 1485.
JOHN B. WAINE WRIGHT.
BANNISTER OF ANTIGUA. — The will of
John Bannister, sometime of Antigua, was
dated July 6, 1773, and proved March 18,
1774. He married Elizabeth, dau. of
(? Far ley), who died at Harley Street,
May 5, 1789, and was buried at Campton,
co. Bed. She left three co-heirs : (a) Eliza-
beth, who m. April 7, 1771, Sir George
Osborn, 4th Bart. ; (b) Henrietta Maria, who
m. Jan. 17, 1771, Hon. and Rev. Brownlow
North, afterwards Bishop of Winchester ;
(c) Anne, m. Rev. Edmund Poulter (of
Portman Square in 1787, afterwards Rector
of Calborne and Crawley, Hants).
In her will, dated Aug. 12, 1788, proved
May 27, 1789, Elizabeth Bannister left her
dau. Anne a seal bearing her own and her
husband's arms. Information required as
to these arms, and also the parentage of
John and Elizabeth. (Above details taken
from Oliver's ' History of Antigua.')
B. R. MITFORD, Major-General.
17 Cadogan Square, S.W.I.
ALDERSON, GLASS MAKERS. — Wanted de-
tails of Aldereons, glass makers of Warring-
ton, co. Lanes, about 1840. This firm
made by accident a lovely shade of blue-
green glass, and presented all relatives with
specimens. One was a beautiful pair of
scent -bottles with cut stars, another was a
set of finger-bowls. Each gift appears to
have been different.
(Mrs.) E. E. COPE.
CAREW TOURNAMENT. — The tournament
organized by Sir Rhys ab Thomas at Carew,
Pembrokeshire, excited general interest.
Among the paladins there were Richard
Griffiths and John Morgan, reported to be
distinguished soldiers. Can any additional
light be thrown on the latter names ?
ANEURIN WILLIAMS.
Menai View, North Road, Carnarvon.
RICHARD HOOKEI BUST. — According to
Bloxam's ' Companion t~ Principles of
Gothic Ecclesiastical Architecture' ^1882,
p. 276), there is a bust of Richard Hooker in
Sittingbourne Church. Is this correct, or
should it be " Bishopsbourne " ?
J. AJRDAGH.
ST. AKELDA. — What is known of this
saint ? All I can get to know so far is that
she was the supposed daughter of a Saxon
owner of Wensleydale in Yorkshire ; that
she became a Christian ; and that she was
strangled by the Danes on account of her
religion. Catholic martyrologies are silent
regarding her. J. W. F.
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SIR CHARLES WILLIAM TAYLOR, BT. —
According to Burke' s ' Peerage and Baronet-
age,' 1829, he was M.P., and was created a
baronet Jan. 21, 1828. Can any one tell
me what was his constituency, and on what
occasion or for what services he received his
baronetcy ? C. A. C.
RIDDLE BY GEORGE SELWYN. — That pro-
lific letter-writer Horace Walpole, in an
epistle to the Rev. Wm. Mason, dated
July 29, 1773, says : —
" I will enliven the conclusion of a heavy letter
with a riddle by George Selwyn, the only verses
I believe he ever made, and marked with all his
wit : —
The first thing is that thing without which we hold
No very good bargain can ever be sold.
The next is a soft white prim delicate thing
Which a parson has got 'twixt his knees and his
chin.
Then what at the playhouse we all strive to get,
Or else are content to go in the pit.
Then all this together will make an odd mess
Of something in something — and that you must
guess.
So you will ; therefore I need not tell you the
subject, nay, nor who writes this letter."
Presumably Mr. Mason sent a solution of
some sort to this conundrum, for on the
17th of the following September, Walpole
writes to him : —
" I have so totally forgotten what the riddle was
I sent you that I do not know whether your solu-
tion with all its humour is right; you may judge
with what rubbish my mind is hlled. I have
learned so many new things of late that I have lost
my memory."
Does any one know what is the correct
solution of this riddle, or whether Mr.
Mason discovered it ?
WlLLOUGHBY MAYCOCK.
SHAKESPEARE AND THE GARDEN. — I should
like to know if there has been compiled
and published a Shakespeare anthology of
the garden. JAS. A. PATON.
Dalrymple, Ayrshire.
OLD CLOCKMAKERS. — Any information
about the following, who are not in the late
Mr. F. J. Britten's list, would be welcome : —
Danl. Keele, Sarum.
Thackwell, Bristol.
Wm. Ide, Tunbridge Wells.
Is anything known of Michell of Launces-
ton, a clockmaker of the eighteenth centurjt,
and of John Mureh of Honiton, who in 1817
made the clock which is now inside Sidburv
Church ?
H. C.'s query as to John Farnham (12 S.
i. 172) is not in the index to that volume.
JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.
JACK STRAW AND WAT TYLER. — In ' Links
with the Past,' by Mrs. Charles Bagot, 1901,
p. 219, is the following : —
" Sept. 4, 1823. North Court [in the Isle of
Wight]. I copied the following inscription froin
a curious old painting over the chimney-piece in
the dining-room at North Court : ' This . is. the
Pictor . of . Sqr : Willyam . Walworth . Knight .
that . Kyled . Jake . Stran . in . Kynge . Richard's .
sight.' "
This is an extract from forty volumes of
unpublished journals written by Miss Mary
Bagot. Some histories have it that Jack
Straw and others were hanged in chains in
1381, the time Wat Tyler was killed in
Smithfield by the Lord Mayor of London ;
but I have never before read that he (and
not Tyler) was Sir William Walworth' s
victim. Is there any known tradition to
the latter effect ? W. B. H.
BARR FAMILY : THEIR ARMS. — Wanted
instances of the use of the following arms
by any Barr family, especially in Ireland,
at or before 1800 : Azure, an eagle displayed
gules. Crest, a lion's head erased gules,
collared or. Motto, " Fortitudine."
H. R. P. BAKER.
77 Accrington Road, Blackburn.
MASTER GUNNER. — In the REV. A. G.
KEALY'S interesting quotation about burial
at sea (ante, p. 106) it is stated that a salute
was fired for a captain, master gunner, or
other proper officer. What was the exact
status of a master gunner ? Some years ago
I tried to trace a man calling himself " Master
Gunner at Gillingham Fort " in 1804, but
could not discover whether he belonged to
the army or navy. He was married at
Lubeek in 1762. L. E. MORIARTY.
35 Manor Park, Lee, S.E.
[The quotations in the ' New English Dictionary |
under " Gunner " show that •' Master Gunner "
(1, c), marked as obsolete, was used both in the
army and the navy. The quotations range from
1548 to 1688.]
SOMERSET INCUMBENTS. — Thanks to some
kindly reader of ' N. & Q.' (see 12 S. iv. 273),
the Clerical Index Society has come into
possession of a copy of the rare issue of the
Rev. F. W. Weaver's ' Somerset Incum-
bents,' 1889. Unfortunately, this work
only brings the succession of the clergy
down to about 1730. I have ascertained
that more than one copy has been brought
down to date in MS. entries. Has any
reader of ' N. & Q.' such a copy ? or does any
reader know where there is a copy ? We want
lists of the later clergy, 1730-1600, or so, for
index purposes, and should be grateful for
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r.ny assistance. To the lists of counties
indexed must be added Middlesex, Warwick-
shire, and Worcestershire ; and we are now
getting on with Somersetshire. Can any
reader inform us where we may find lists for
other counties, so that our index work may
continue ? J. W. FAWCETT.
Consett, co. Durham.
NEW CHESTERFIELD LETTERS. — Could
some one tell me in what paper these letters
appeared and the date of publication ?
They do not appear to have been published
in book-form.
H. A. ST. J. MILDMAY, Col.
31 Gloucester Street, Warwick Square, S.W.I.
KELLOND SURNAME. — I shall be glad if
some one can tell me the origin and meaning
of the surname Kellond. I understand it
springs from somewhere in Devonshire.
WALTER M. KELLOND.
la Ashlar Road, Waterloo, near Liverpool.
LABOUR AND CAPITAL. — " Labour is the
father, and Land is the mother, of Capital."
Can any of your readers oblige with a
reference to the source of this definition ?
J. D. W.
WAYTE FAMILY. — A monument in Ren-
hold Church commemorates Edmund Wayte,
who died in 1518. I shall be glad of any
information relating to this family.
W. GLASSBY.
Renhold, near Bedford.
HERALDIC : SABLE, A LION RAMPANT,—
Can any reader say what family blazoned
their arms, Sable, a lion rampant betwixt
six fusils in pale ? An answer direct would
be appreciated. A. E. OUGHTRED.
Lawns Cottage, Hartlepool.
MERCURY DRAWN BY COCKS. • — I have
before me two prints, evidently a pair. One
is named ' Venere,' and the other ' Mercurio.'
In the latter the god is represented seated in
a car drawn by two cocks. The car is
passing over a cloud, and in it are three
beings, one of them in an attitude indicating
fear. My conjecture is that they are souls
being conveyed to the underworld. Under
the print to the left is inscribed " Raffaelo
Sanzio Urbino " ; in the middle, " Stefano
Tofanelli delin " ; and on the right, " Pietro
Bonato Veneto incise."
Would any reader of * N. & Q.' kindly tell
me why two cocks should be drawing
Mercury's chariot ? Doves drew Venus, and
tigers Bacchus, but both these cases can be
explained easily. Is the print copied from
some work of Raphael ? I have looked
through a long list of his genuine works and
of the works falsely assigned to him, and
I cannot find anything that throws any
light on the subject. I suppose that the
print might represent a figure taken from a
larger work. Any information as to the
probable date of the print would be of
interest. T. PERCY ARMSTRONG.
JAMES COCKLE, OF COCKLE'S PILLS. — Has
any account of the still well-known surgeon-
apothecary of this name been published ?
When were his antibilious pills first patented?
Was he the father of Sir James Cockle,
F.R.S., sometime Chief Justice of Queens-
land, who died in 1895 ? Both the ' D.N.B.'
and the ' Encyclopaedia Britannica ' say that
Sir James was the second son of an Essex
surgeon named James Cockle, but neither
authority mentions the pills, nor 4 Great
Ormond Street, W.C., where the firm James
Cockle & Co., patent-medicine vendors, still
carry on business. HARMATOPEGOS.
TILLY KETTLE.— Who was Tilly Kettle,
and where was he born ? There is a por-
trait by this artist of Rear-Admiral Richard
Kempenfelt (1720-1782) in the Painted
Hall at Greenwich Hospital. Are any of
his other works in public galleries ?
J. LANDFEAR LUCAS.
Glendora, Hindhead, Surrey.
" ARGYLES " OR GRAVY-POTS. — What was
the origin of tjie word " Argyle "as applied
to gravy-pots, and what is the date of the
earliest known specimen ? They had an
outer jacket which held hot water so that
the gravy was kept hot while on the table,
a very necessary luxury in the days of
large dinners, when all the carving was
done at the table. Any information will
be gratefully received.
LEONARD C. PRICE.
Essex Lodge, Ewell.
[The only quotation in the 'New English Dic-
tionary' is dated 1822, from Kitchiner's 'Cook's
Oracle': "We have in the English kitchen our
'argyll' for gravy."]
THE HOUGHTON MEETING. — As all turfites
are aware, this is the style and title of the
last of the three Newmarket autumn meet-
ings. I am anxious to ascertain why it
was so named, but so far my researches
have been in vain. It was established and
so styled in 1770. It is possible that it
may have some connexion with the third
Lord Orford, a wild gambler of that period
who resided at Houghton Hall, Norfolk,
but this is only conjecture. If any reader
of ' N. & Q.' can furnish some precise 'in-
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formation on the subject I shall be very
rgrateful. Horace Walpole, who succeeded
his eccentric nephew as the fourth Earl, has
several allusions in his letters to the racing
.at Newmarket, but does not apparently
touch on this specific point.
WlLLOUGHBY MAYCOCK.
QUEEN ANNE:
THE SOVEREIGN'S VETO :
THE ROYAL ASSENT.
(12 S. v. 95.)
THERE are many references in ' N. & Q.' to
what is popularly termed the "royal veto."
Probably the following list is not exhaus-
tive : —
1 S. vi. 556 ; vii. 50.
3 S. ix. 374, 519 ; x. 55, 97, 137, 156, 191,
"256.
5 S. ii. 426, 476; iii. 117.
8 S. iii. 369, 394, 456 ; iv. 418, 494.
US. xi. 451.
The reply at the second reference (Jan. 8,
1853) says that the last exercise of the pre-
Togative of rejecting a Bill, after passing
both Houses of Parliament, was in 1692,
when William III. refused his assent to the
Bill for Triennial Parliaments. Perhaps this
"was taken from a foot-note in ' Bishop
Burnet's History of his own Time,' new
edition, 1847, p. 587, which asserts that this
rejection " is the last time the prerogative
of the crown has been so employed." Con-
cerning this refusal of assent Burnet (ut
supra] says : —
*| He [the King] refused to pass it [the Bill for
Triennial Parliaments] ; so this session ended in ill
humour. The rejecting of a bill, though an un-
questionable right of the crown, has been so seldom
practised, that the two houses are apt to think it
a hardship when there is a bill denied."
The fact that this was not the last royal
rejection of a Bill is given by Sir Thomas
Erskine May in his ' Parliamentary Practice,'
e.g. 12th edit., 1917, p. 395, where he says
that the last instance was when Queen Anne
refused her assent to the Militia of Scotland
Bill in 1707. Other writers (e.g. the Editor
3f ' N. & Q.,' 3 S. ix. 374 ; and a correspon-
ient, 3 S. x. 256) give a more particular date,
viz. March 11, 1707.
These statements are not as precise as
they ought to be. I have referred to the
' Journals of the House of Lords,' vol. xviii.,
where I find, p. 506, that the actual date,
though given as March 11, 1707, was in fact
March 11, 1707/8. Therefore, according to
the historical reckoning, the date was
March 11, 1708.
Similarly the historical date of the rejection
of the Triennial Bill was March 14, 1693—
otherwise 1692/3 (the Journals give, of
course, only the legal years). Regarding
this rejection it should be noted that the
Triennial Bill was not the only one rejected
on that day. The entry in the ' Journals of
the House of Lords,' vol. xv. p. 289, is as
follows (the King being on his throne in the
House of Lords) : —
" ' An Act for the frequent Calling and Meeting
of Parliaments ' [i.e. the Triennial Bill].
'"An Act for removing Doubts and preventing
Disputes Touching Royal Mines ; and that Their
Majesties may have the Pre-emption.' "
To these Bills the answer was, .
" ' Le Roy et la Reyne se aviseront.' "
Concerning Queen Anne's refusal of
assent, March 11, 1707/8, the entry,
vol. xviii. p. £06, is (the Queen being on her
throne) : —
"'An Act for settling the Militia of that Part
of Great Britain called Scotland.'*'
"La Raine se avisera.'5
On Dec. 22, 1694, the Bill for Triennial
Parliaments received the Royal Assent (the
King being on his throne). The entry is : —
" ' An Act for the frequent Meeting and Calling
of Parliaments.'
*' Le Roy et la Reyne Tveulent.'*
On the same day a Bill of Supply (pro-
viding money) received the Royal Assent as
follows : —
" Le Roy et la Reyne, remerciant les bon Sub-
jects, acceptant leur Benevolence, -et aiusi 1'veu-
lent." — * Journals,' xv. 451.
The same form appears ibid., pp. 203, 288.
But in Queen Anne's time this assent
was : —
"La Raine remercie ses bon Subjects, accepte
leur Benevolence, et ainsi le veult." — 'Journals,'
xviii. 506.
Sometimes in her reign (e.g. '^Journals,'
xviii. 162) " bons Subjects " appears instead
of " bon Subjects."
The Royal Assent to a private Bill was : —
:' Soit fait come il est desire."
See ' Journals,' e.g. xv. 290 ; xviii. 506.
It may, I think, be assumed that the
spellings were correct, according to their
oeriods, seeing that in vol. xv. pp. 203,
289, there is a foot-note as to "la" in
la Reyne," which reads " Origin, le."
This, no doubt, means that originally the
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Clerk of the Parliaments, or some one for
him, had written " le Reyne," and that the
error had been corrected on examination
before printing.
The forms of Royal Assent to-day are the
same as those of the time of Queen Anne,
allowing for differences in spelling and pro-
bably in pronunciation, and "Roy" for
"Reyne." The Assent most frequently
heard is that given to public Bills, " Le
Roy le veult." ROBERT PIERPOINT.
' The Laws of England ' has the follow-
ing note (vol. xxi. p. 275, s.v. Parliament)
on this point : —
" The royal assent has not been withheld since
1707, when Queen Anne refused her assent to a
Bill for settling the militia in that part of Great
Britain called Scotland ; see Journals of the
House of Lords, 1707-8, vol. xviii. p. 606."
LEONARD J. HODSON.
Robertsbridge, Sussex.
The Bill to which Queen Anne refused
her assent was, according to May ('The
Law and Usage of Parliament '), one for
settling the militia in Scotland, 1707. He
further says : —
" The necessity of refusing the royal assent is
removed by the strict observance of the con-
stitutional principle, that the Crown has no will
but that of its ministers, who only continue to
serve in that capacity so long as they retain the
confidence of Parliament."
JOHN PATCHING.
Lewes.
[W. A. B. C. and MB. ARCHIBALD SPARKE also
thanked for replies.]
LILLIPUT AND GULLIVER.
(12 S. iv. 73, 140, 199.)
WHEN I propounded my query as to the
origin of the former name as that of a
portion of Parkstone in Dorsetshire, I had
not noticed that I had been forestalled in
every particular by your correspondent
A. R. at 11 S. xii. 120. This is the less
excusable on my part as another query
from myself appears on the same page
as his respecting Lilliput. Since I wrote
I have made some inquiries on the subject,
and I am not now prepared to maintain the
opinion that Swift owed the name Lilliput
to the place in Parkstone. I have an open
mind on the question.
The following are results of my inquiries.
I have traced the name here back to 1805,
which seems to be the oldest date on which
it appears in any document. In that year,
as I am informed by Mr. Herbert Kendall,
M.S. A., architect and surveyor of Poole,
" a Perambulation was made from CanforcF
to Sandbanks, and one piece of land is
mentioned as being ' near Lilliput.' ' An.
old resident of Lilliput village told me
that when he was a boy, " about 55
years ago," there were in existence, on
the site now occupied by the garden of
a modern house called Minterne Grange
at Lilliput, the ruins of a building called
" Lilliput Castle," and that he used to
play in its cellars. He further told me
that five or six years ago it was proposed to
change the name of the post office from
Lilliput to Salterns, which is the name of
another portion of the parish ; but there
was opposition and a controversy over it,
and the proposal was abandoned. The late
vicar, Canon Dugmore, did not fancy the
name Lilliput (so it was said), and there-
fore the chapel-of -ease which was built here
in 1874 is known ecclesiastically as the
" Chapel of the Holy Angels, Salterns,"
Salterns, half a mile or more distant, being
the place of residence of the donor of the
site, whereas the chapel itself is in the
middle of the village of Lilliput. However
this may be, I think the village and post
office are to be congratulated on retaining
the name Lilliput.
The same old resident told me that he had
pome recollection that Lilliput House or
Castle had at one time belonged to a family
named De Lisle, of which nothing is now
known locally.
I referred in my query to a smuggler
named Gulliver. Here are some particulars
about him. He was
" the most famous of all the chiefs of smugglers
upon the East, Dorset, and West Hampshire coasts.
His smuggling operations were carried out on
such an extensive scale that he not only had a
small fleet of vessels, but also teams of pack-horses
and a number of men in his employment, who
were stated at that time to be scarcely less than^
fifty in number. His favourite spots for landing
cargoes were in the inlets of Poole Harbour and*
at the mouths of the chines— in particular, Brank-
some Chine, on the borders of Hants and Dorset.
But this famous Gulliver, who lived to a great age,
leaving a large fortune, was not only a smuggler,,
but appears at times to have acted in the capacity
of a secret-service agent for the Government. A
writer of the period states that no movements of
the French took place during the great war with
France but that Gulliver was cognisant of them,
and his knowledge was found to be so valuable
that the Government often overlooked his smug-
gling operations for the sake of the information
that he was able to afford regarding the plans of
the French." — 'Wessex, painted by Walter Tyn-
dale, described by Clive Holland,' p. 60.
I suggest another possible explanation of
the occurrence of the name of Lilliput in
I Gulliver's neighbourhood. This Gulliver
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a man of substance and consideration
very likely he built himself a house in
keeping with these attributes, and, re-
membering a book that he had read when
a boy, and also his own name and
present importance — that he loomed large
in, the public eye — called it " Lilliput
Castle."
This name Lilliput, I may mention, does
not occur in the two old local histories : ' The
History and Antiquities of the County of
Dorset,' by the Rev. John Hutchins, 3rd edit.
1861, and ' The History of the Town and
County of Poole,' by John Sydenham, 1839.
There is a station called " Lilliput Road '"
on the Swansea and Mumbles Railway,
and a hamlet called " Lillyhoo," four
miles S.W. of Maidstone in Kent.
PENRY LEWIS.
WESTMINSTER HALL ROOF (12 S. v. 121).
— A tract published in 1625 can scarcely
be regarded as the " printed source " of the
tradition that there are no spiders in the
roof of Westminster Hall because the
timber is Irish. In Southey's ' Common-
Place Book,' first series, p. 138, there is the
following extract from an earlier and more
Famous work than that of Benjamin
Spenser : —
" Thus it hath been the complaint of all ages,
'eges esse telas aranearum, vel quia juridici *unt
iraneae,vd quiamitfica^capiunt. et vexpaxdimittunt.
But I am not of their rnind ; for I think that God in
liis providence hath so fitly ordained it, as prophe-
sying or prescribing a lesson, that the timber in
Westminster Hall should neither admit cobweb
rior spider; and God make us thankful for the
rree course of our justice." — Godfrey Goodman,
: The Fall of Man, or the Corruption of Nature
proved by the Light of his Naturall Reason.'
Bishop Goodman's book was published in
.616, and the superstition referred to was, it
nay be presumed, already familiar. The com-
>arison of laws to cobweb^ is ascribed by
Valerius Maximus and Plutarch to Ana-
rharsis, and by Stobaeus to Zaleucus. The
'orm of the saying as given by Goodman is
nost like that in Stobaeus.
A similar legend has attached itself to
hat " glorious Work of fine intelligence."
king's College Chapel, Cambridge.
In Wil kin's edition of Sir Thomas Browne's
>Vorks there is a note of Wren's in bk. vi.
:hap. vii of the ' Pseudodoxia Epidemica,'
n which we are told that venomous things
lie
' on Irish earthe, brought thence by ship into our
;ardens in England : nor is this proper to Irish
larthe, but to the timber brought thence, as
appeares in that vast roof of King's College Chappel
in Cambridge, where noe man ever saw a spider, or
their webs, bycause iit is all of Irish timber."
Wilkin wrote to a friend in Cambridge
and gave an extract from his reply, which
referred to " the traditional account of the
roof, and more particularly the organ loi't
of King's College Chapel, being formed of
Irish oak, and that no spielers or their webs
are to be found upon it." After personal
inquiry and investigation Wilkin' s friend
said that he could discover no cobwebs or
spider?, but was informed that spiders' webs
were very abundant in some parts of the
stone roof underneath the wooden roof.
Wilkin also refers to a paper in the Philo-
sophical Transactions, lix. 30, by the Hon.
D. Barrington, who examined several ancient
timber roofs without detecting any spiders'
webs, and explained this as due to the
absence of flies in such situations. But, as
Wilkin observes, this seems inconsistent
with the number of cobwebs found in the
stone roof of King's. Dairies Barrington
was one of Charles Lamb's " old Benchers."
and we may guess that the roof under which
' Twelfth Night ' was first acted was among
those examined.
Some of these references were given by me
at 12 S. iii. 306 in an answer on the Folk-
Lore of the Spider. EDWARD BENSLY.
ALDELIMA, 1280 : ITS LOCALITY (12 S.
V- 96). — jt a,ppears from Domesday Book
that Aldelime was in the hundred of War-
mendestrou in Cheshire. Cheshire formed
part of the diocese of Lichfield until the
formation of the dioce.se of Chester temp.
Henry VIII. Aldelime would therefore be
described in 1280 as in the diocese of Lich-
field (see Hemingway's ' Hist, of the City of
Chester,' i. 296). The hundred of War-
mendestrou became, about the time of
Edward III., the hundred of Nantwich
( ' Hist, of Cheshire/ published by Poole of
Chester, 1778, p. 865). In the work last
cited there is given on pp. 74-5 a list of
benefices in Cheshire extracted from a MS.
at Cambridge. These benefices include
Aldalem, the annual value of which was
~)l. 16s. 8cZ. On p. 47 of the same work there
s a list of all villages and townships in the
hundred of Nantwich. One of these is
Audlem. Lysons says : " The township of
Audlem, or, as it was anciently written,
Aldelym, lies nearly seven miles south by
east from Nantwich" ('Magna Britannia,'
vol. ii. part 2, p. 494). Audlem in the
inndred of Nantwich still exists.
GEORGE NEWALL.
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BLUECOAT SCHOOLS (12 S. v. 126).— The
Bluecoat School, Birmingham, was founded
in 1722, by public subscriptions and dona-
tions, and was stimulated by the erection of
St. Philip's Church, now the Pro-Cathedral.
The burial-ground attached to this church is
of considerable extent, and a strip of land
from it was granted at a nominal rent by the
church authorities, on the ground that
" profaneness and debauchery were greatly
owing to gross ignorance of the Christian
religion, especially among the poorer sort."
Liberal contributions were received from
many of the old Birmingham families, and
a brick building was opened in 1724 accom-
modating 22 boys and 10 girls. As early as
K-90 a Birmingham mercer of the name of
^'entham had provided for the education of
about 20 boys, and his trust was amalga-
mated with the Bluecoat School, the boys
being, however, clad in green for distinction.
Another benefaction provided for the educa-
tion, of a number of Welsh children, there
being many Welsh families in the neigh-
bourhood, mostly poor, and the poorer
because they had no assistance from the
rates.
The school has been greatly enlarged on
two occasions, and is now a large stone-
fronted edifice, with no pretension to
architectural ornament, but so simple and so
good in its proportions as to be by no means
unpleasing, especially as it faces the large
and well-planted churchyard. The only
decoration consists of two figures of a
Bluecoat boy and girl by Edward Grubb.
Of these William Huttor says : " They are
executed with a degree of excellence that a
Roman statuary would not have blushed
to own." Of Hutton's knowledge of Roman
statuary art we may entertain grave doubts,
but the figures are certainly simple and
pleasing. Of these the legend has long been
told to Birmingham children that when they
hear the church bells strike midnight they
come down and disport themselves in the
churchyard. The legend is of course per-
fectly truthful, provided that the proper
emphasis be placed on the "when."
The Birmingham Bluecoat School has an
uneventful but most honourable history.
It has always been liberally supported and
excellently managed, and has done incal-
culable good in its existence of nearly two
centuries. Many who have found there their
only chance of education have attained
wealth and honour. One grateful pupil
gave a donation of 1,OOOL when he became a
successful man. The school has also con-
stantly grown, and now educates about
200 boys and 100 girls. The costume of the
time of George I. is still continued, and the-
boys, as they are led by their masters
through the streets, form a quaint and
pleasant spectacle.
The present school, large as it is, is over-
crowded, and its removal to Harborne would
already have been effected, but for the
hindrance caused by the war. In suburban
quarters the children will have purer air and
adequate playgrounds, though they can
scarcely be healthier than they are in their
present close quarters.
HOWAKD S. PEARSON.
The Bluecoat School in Wolverhampton
was founded in 1696, and, so far as I am
aware, is still in existence. When I resided
in Wolverhampton the number of scholars
was about 80, of whom 22 were boarders.
In addition to these the boys in the-
Wolverhampton Orphanage, some 150 in
number, wore the Bluecoat dress. The
Orphanage was founded in 1850.
In the town of Leicester there used to be,,
and doubtless still is, the Greencoat School.
(Alderman Newton's).
JAS. M. J. FLETCHER.
The Vicarage, Wimborne Minster.
The following appears to give the required
information. There is no date on my copy: —
The Parent's | School And College Guide,] or, I
Liber Scholasticus : | Being an Account or { All
The Fellowships, Scholarships, And | Exhibitions,
| At The | Universities of Oxford, Cambridge,.
Durham and Dublin: | By Whom Founded, I And!
Whether Open Or Restricted To Particular | Places
And Persons : | Also, Of Such | Colleges, Public-
Schools, Endowed Grammar Schools, | Chartered
Companies Of The City Of London, | Corporate
Bodies, Trustees &c. | As Have University Ad-
vantages Attached To Them, | Or In Their Patron-
age ; | With The | Ecclesiastical Patronage Of The
Universities, Colleges, | Companies, Corporate
Bodies, &c. | With Appropriate Indexes And
References I Second Edition, Much Enlarged. |
London : | Whittaker And Co. Ave Maria Lane.
W. CURZON YEO.
10 Beaumont Avenue, Richmond, Surrey.
There is a Bluecoat School in York. It
was founded in 1705, and is still carried on
in vigorous condition. A Grey Coat School
for girls was established almost contem-
poraneously, and that also continues its
good work. But a day ago these institu-
tions celebrated their annual festival, and,
according to a time-honoured custom,,
assembled at the Mansion House, where the-
Lady Mayoress made each child glad by the--
gift of sixpence and an orange.
ST. S WITHIN.
12 8. V. JUNE, 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Your correspondent will perhaps find all he
needs in that encyclopaedic work, Carlisle's
' History of Endowed Schools in England
and Wales ' — 2 vols., stout royal 8vo, issued
early in the nineteenth century. I am
miles from nearest library, so cannot give
precise date, but copies are believed avail-
able at British Museum, Guildhall, and
Bishopsgate Institute. At the last-named
is an excellent London collection (including
nearly all the known literature on London
schools), for which feature scholars are not
a little indebted to Mr. Goss the Librarian.
WM. JAGGARD, Capt.
In the 'History of Reading,' p. 391, by
Rev. Charles Coates, 1802, is the following : —
" In St Giles's parish [Reading], near the corner
of Silver Street, on the south side of the London
Road, is the building called the Blue-School. This
school was originally founded, in the year 1646, for
twenty blue-coat boys, and a master, by a gentle-
man of great worth and character, Richard
Aldworth esq : to which six more were added by
Sir Thomas Rich, baronet, three of which are to be
chosen from the Parish of Sunning."
R. J. FYNMORE.
Warrington, founded 1711 (see history in
Trans. Hist. Soc. Lanes, and Ches. xxii. 89).
Liverpool, founded 1709 (see Trans, of same
Society, xi. and xiii.), now moved to Waver-
tree. R. g. B.
WAR SLANG (12 S. iv. 271, 206, 333 ;
v. 18, 79). — J. R. H. is perhaps correct in
his impression that "fed up " was brought
home by soldiers from the Boer War, as the
words are used in the City article of The
Times of Oct. 1, 1904, and also in The
Daily Telegraph of Oct. 20, 1900, and in
both cases in the same sense as they are
used to-day. ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
" Yellow peril " is the name given to
a well-known brand of cigarettes packed
in yellow paper. They are also called
"gaspers." A. S. E. ACKERMANN.
" MACARONI " : ORIGIN OF THE WORD
(12 S. iv. 326).— The story told by the
Italian to a querist as to the origin of this
word is of no etymological value, and was
evidently concocted by some wag for the
diversion of his audience. The Italian
form maccheroni is a plural, signifying a
mixture of flour, cheese, and butter. It is
derived by Diez with great plausibility
from It. maccare or ammacare, to bruise,
pound. Maccherone, a Jack-pudding ;
macaroon, a cake originally of much the
same composition ; and macaronic (medley)
come from the same root N. W. HILL. "
DEACON IN LOVE (12 S. v.T 42, 104). —
We ought to have the words of Cantilupe's
Register. Has there been a misunder-
standing of the common phrase " intultu-
caritatis," used in records of bestowals o£
preferment ? If a deacon was admitted
to serve a chantry, it must have been on,
the understanding that he would at once
proceed to priest's orders. J. T. F.
Winterton, Lines.
HON. LIEUT. GEORGE STEWART (12 S'.-
v. 12, 75). — The inscription at the first
reference seems to me to be either a hoax:
or a manufactured epitaph, or, as has beem
said, a case of " sending a man to his gravo
with a lie on the lips of the people." He
certainly was not what the epitaph makes
him out to be. What is the entry in the
burial register ? This may throw gome
light on the matter. The only solution at
present seems that he was " a bar sinister..'"
Is there such a name in the Army Lists ?
J. W. FAWCETT..
Consett, co. Durham.
METAL-BRIDGE, DUBLIN (12 S. ii. 487 ;-.
iii. 59). — This bridge has now been, made-
free to tl\e public. For nearly 105 years a.
toll of one halfpenny was levied, the annual.
rent being 3351. J. ARDAGH.
35 Church Avenue, Drumcondra, Dublin.
WRIGHT OF ELMSALL (12 S. iv. 190, 285).-
— Concerning the part played by James,,
Duke of York, in the descent of this family
the following supplementary facts may be-
of interest. The uncle of his victim, viz ,
Sir .Arthur Darcy of New Park, Hornby,.
brother of the Earl of Holderness, wa»
Comptroller of the King's palace at York
in 1665 (12 S. iv. 161). In Pepys's ' Diary *
we read : —
" July 27, 1665, to Hampton Court, where-
I saw *the King and Queen set out towards-
Salisbury, and after these the Duke and Duehesse,
whose hands I did kiss."
On pp. 572 and 573 of vol. v. of ' Lives of t
Queens of England,' Agnes Strickland wrote
concerning the events of July, 1665 : —
" The plague speedily extending to Hampton.
Court, their Majesties and the Court left on the'
27th for Salisbury. It was agreed on the spote
that the Duke and Duchess, with their retinue,
should set off direct for York, much to their-
satisfaction."
This is corroborated in the State papers.
Amongst the archives of the Hartley
family w-as a sheet of notepaper (now in the-
present writer's possession) stamped in blua
fancy type " Middleton Lodge, Richmond,
Yorks," and containing the following j ottings*
160
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. V.JUNE, 1919.
written between 1793 and 1809 by a female
hand : —
" George Wright of South Kirkby married a
bastard daughter of James Stuart, Duke of
York. He and his wife Anne, who was bom May,
1666, were buried at South Kirkby in 1729. —
James Wright of South Elmsall and Thurnscoe
Grange. — George Wright of Thurnscoe Grange :
•hield, Or, fesse componed az. and arg. betw.
'three erased eagles' heads ; crest, a unicorn
pass. reg. — Sarah Wright, the wife of Sampson
George of Middleton Tyas."
On another MS. (undated, but appar-
ently much older) of this family (seen by
the writer) " George Wright and his wife
Anne, daughter of Othia Hutton," are
recorded as parents of a son James and a
daughter Othia. VALEAT QUANTUM.
' THREE BLACK CROWS ' (12 S. v. 123).—
The piece will be found in the ' Miscellaneous
Poems ' of John Byrom, " a name well
known in literary history for his versatile
genius, and varied accomplishments," as
Bishop Monk wrote of him in his Life of
Richard Bentley.
Though Byrom describes his tale as "a
London story," it is taken, " with very
beseeming alterations," as Swan remarks in
a note to his English version, from the
'Gesta Romanorum,' 125 (117). In the
mediaeval version the number of the crows
rises to sixty.
J. G. T. Grosse in his German translation
of the ' Gesta,' and Oesterley in his edition
of the Latin text, refer to Byrom' s verses,
and Oesterley gives a long list of literary
references in his note on this story.
EDWARD BENSLY. -
John Byrom of Manchester, whose Christ-
inas hymn, ' Christians, awake ! salute the
liappy morn,' is so well known, was the
author of 'Three Black Crows,' which he
wrote to be recited at one of the breakings -
up of the Manchester Grammar School.
There is an interesting article on this piece
in the 'Palatine Note Book' (vol. i. p. 21).
The writer observes that
*' it immediately hit the public fancy, and became
a stock piece wherever there was a demand for sly
satire couched in facile verse. It still has admirers,
although it must be confessed that younger rivals
have arisen and somewhat pushed it backwards
into the shade."
The article investigates the literary sources
of the story, and refers to Lafontaine's
'Fables' (livre viii. fab. vi.), Lodovico
Guicciardini's ' Detti e fatti pacevoli ' (which
first appeared about 1569), the ' Fables of
Abstemius ' (of which a French translation
Appeared in 1572), ' The Book of the Knight
of La Tour-Landry ' (written about 1371)
the ' Promptuarium Exemplorum ' (com-
piled early in the fifteenth century) and the
* Gesta Romanorum.'
WM. SELF WEEKS.
Westwood, Clitheroe.
GRIM OR GRIME : ETYMOLOGY OF THE
NAME (12 S. v. 95, 137).— See also P. A.
Munch' s ' Samlede Afhandlinger,' vol. iv.
p. 89 (Christiania, 1876), and O. Rygh's
' Gamle Personnavne ' (Christiania, 1961),
p. 94.
Grim enters into many Scandinavian
names : Arngrim, Asgrim, Steingrim, Thor-
grim, &c. ; Grimketill, Grimulf, &c. Grimr
is one of Odin's titles.
ALEX. G. MOFFAT.
Swansea.
The personal and regional names Grimm,
Grimes, Grimsby, Grimston, Grimshaw,
Grinketel and Crinkle (see U.S. iv. 187,
233, 434, s.v. cytel) all spring from the
Old Ncr.se grime ; as do the Celtic Graeme
and Scotch Graham. See H. A. Long's
' Personal and Family Names.'
N. W. HILL.
BIRD-SCARING SONGS (12 S. v. 98, 132).—
I append some Worcestershire versions of
similar lines.
From Tredington by James - Barnet,
aged 72, Oct. 17, 1912 : —
Sho ! all away, you birds that are so black,
Come here to steal my master's crop
While I lies down to have a nap.
From Wenbold-on-Stour, by Tho. Baldwin,
aged 70, Oct. 17, 1912 : —
Sho ! all away ! Sho ! all away !
You birds that are so black',
Come here to steal my master's crop.
If he was to come with his lonu gun,
You would fly, and I would run.
From Wimpstone, by George Bailey,
aged 74, Oct. 27, 1912 :-
Ye pigeons and crows* away ! away !
Why do you steal my master's tay ?
If he should come with his long gun,
You must fly, and I must run.
This is corroborated as the correct Warwick-
shire version by the late F. Scarlett Potter,
well known as an accurate folk-lorist. This
version was current in Ilmington in his
boyhood. J. ' HARVEY BLOOM.
HEDGEHOGS (12 S. iv. 76, 140; v. 105).—
Will MR. CLAUDE MORLEY be good enough to
quote some more (even second-hand) in-
stances of the alleged sucking of cows' teats
by hedgehogs ? The information he gives
at the last reference is not very satisfactory.
12 S. V.JUNE, 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
161
He writes of a letter he received in 1911 from in the Rectory oft Orpington till 1566.fc He
went with Thomas Goldwell, Bisncp^of
St. Asaph, to Rome, where we find boih^in
Mr. Cockaday, who apparently claims to hav went
seen the alleged act on " »«*•*»*•«/ m>?>p,dons "
several occasions
but, for all this, only one (in 1906) is men
tioned by MB. MOBLEY. We are told, too
that hedgehogs are " very common in tha
district." This being so, one would hav
thought MB. MORLEY might have tried t
see the event for himself — for " what th
soldier said " is not evidence. Then is no
" fifteen or twenty yards " rather a Ion
distance from which to see and be sure o:
what was happening ? My faith is greatly
stretched when we are told that at tha
distance " the contraction of the cheek
[of a hedgehog !] in the act of suction also
was evident "... .and " only the extremity o
the mouth touched the teat, and the teeth
were not in contact at all " /
ALFBED S. E. ACKEBMANN.
BISHOPS OF THE FIFTEENTH CENTUB\
(12 S. iv. 330; v. 107).— The Rev. Joseph
Hunter in his ' South Yorkshire : The His
tory and Topography of the Deanery of
Doncaster in the Diocese and County of
York,' ii. (1831), 97, writes: —
" On August 18th, 1491, a commission issued
from the Ecclesiastical Court at York, to William,
Bishop of Dromore, to consecrate anew the chapel
of \Ventworth, in the parish of Wath, with its
chapelyard."
George Brann is said to have been Bishop
of Dromore from 1489 to his translation,
April 15, 1499, to the see of Elphin. If the
above extract is correct, George cannot have
been appointed until after Aug. 18, 1491.
That being so, who was Bishop William ?
Brann 's predecessor at Dromore is said to
have been Thomas Radclifie, 1440-89, and
his successor William , 1500-4. The
succession of these Irisn bishops is very
uncertain.
J. W. F.
REV. DR. CLENOCK (12 S. v. 124).—
Maurice Clenock took the degree of B.C.L.
at Oxford in 1548, and, according to Mr.
Gillow ('Bibl. Diet. Eng. Cath.,' i. 500),
subsequently became D.C.L. and D.D.
Nicolas Sander says he was a Prebendary of
York, and, though this has been doubted,
Dom Norbert Birt, O.S.B., has shown that
Sander was quite accurate ('Elizabethan
Religious Settlement,1 p. 152). Clenock was
also Chancellor of the Prerogative Court of
Canterbury, and Rector of Orpington, Kent,
and was Bishop -nominate of Bangor at
Queen Mary's death. He was one of the
witnesses to Cardinal Pole's will. He seems
to have gone abroad early in Queen Eliza-
beth's reign, though he was not succeeded I
January, It 63/4. In 1567 he became
Camerarius, and in 1578 Gustos* of the
English Ho&jriee there, and was first Rector
of the English College, 1578-9 (ep. Catholic
Record Society's Publications, i. 23, 48 ;
ii. 3). In P.R.O., S.P. Dom Eliz., cxlviii. 61,,
mention is made, among " the doctors that
be at Rome," of D. Morris Clenocke, " over-
seer of the Englishe hospitall." This docu-
ment is considered as belonging to 1581;
but Clenock had certainly ceased to je&ide
at Rome in that year. He was unpopular
among the English exiles, as he was oon--
sidered to favour the Welsh unduly.
JOHN B, WAINEWBICET.-
There is quite a lengthy bibliograj hy ol'
this individual in the ' D.N.B.,' the ' Catholic
Encyclopaedia,' Gillow's 'Bibliographical
Dictionary of the English Catholics,' Foley's
' Records,' and in the Transactions of the
Catholic Record Society, but the birth and
death dates are not given. In the Trans-
actions above he is usually referred to as
either Mr. or Dr. Morrice.
ABCHIBATJD SPABKE..
BOASE BBOTHEBS (12 S. v. 95).— Tnere-
s a portrait of Mr. George Boase in The
Illustrated London Nev.s, Oct.
p. 521.
1897,
I have a photograph of the late Mr..
Frederic Boase, and will be pleased to lend it
;o MB. HAMBLEY ROWE if it is of any service
or the purpose lie has in hand. I am
ending on the query to Mrs. Lewis Thom-
on, who is sister to the three brothers
Boase. SJie might be able to help in the
bove mattei.
A. KATE RANEB.
25 Boscobel Road, St. Leonards-on-Sea.
BlBLIOCBAPHY OF EPITAPHS (12 S. V. 68^,
29). — Here are the titles of a few books
hat I have : —
Sepulchrorum Inscriptiones ; or, a Curious Colleo
on of about 900 of the most remarkable Epitaphs,
Antient and Modern, Serious and Merry, in the
Kingdoms of Great Britain, Ireland, &c., in English.
Verse. Faithfully collected by James Jones, gent.
Vol. 1., 1727. [1 have only the one vol.]
Churchyard Gleanings and Epigrammatic Scraps :..
being a Collection of remarkable Epitaphs and
Epigrams. By William Pulleyn. [Undated.]
ISepulchralia, or "Sermons in Ktones": being.
Epitaphs from the Churchyards in the neighbour-
hood of Blackpool. 1873.
Among the 'J ombs of Colchester. 1880.
Faithf ul Servants : being Epi taphs and Obituaries
recording their Names and Services. Edited and
in part collected by Arthur J. Munby, M.A., F.S.A.
1891.
162
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. v. JUNE, 1919.
As regards MR. FAWCETT'S question as
to the possibility of compiling a list of
•works on epitaphs, see 6 S. x. 34, 35,
where MR. W. G. B. PAGE writes as " the
-compiler of the' Bibliography of Epitaphs,' "
-and refers to 6 S. ix. 86, 493. Was this
Bibliography ever published in its complete
'form ? F. J. HYTCH.
The following are in order of date : —
Select Epitaphs. By W. Toldervy. 2 vols. 1755.
Select and Remarkable Epitaphs. By J. Hackett.
•2 vols. 1757-
A New Select Collection of Epitaphs. By T.
Webb. 2 vols. (1775.)
Illustrium Virorum Elogia Sepulchralia. By
E. Popham. 1778.
Epitaphs and Monumental Inscriptions, His-
torical, Biographical, Literary, and Miscellaneous.
By Dr. Johnson. 2 vols. 1806.
Church Yard Gleanings and Epigrammatic
^Scraps. By W. Pulley n. 181-
Moral and Interesting Epitaphs. By Wm.
Henney of Hammersmith. 1819.
A Collection of Epitaphs and Monumental In-
scriptions. By Silvester Tissington. 517 pages.
1857.. i
Epitaphs, Collected from the Cemeteries of
"Great Britain. By Joseph Barlow Robinson. 1859.
Gleanings in Graveyards. By H. E. Norfolk. 1866.
Bunhill Fields Burial-Ground : Proceedings in
-reference to its Preservation. 1867. (Gives the
inscriptions on the tombs.)
Epitaphs ["&c.] in Greyfriars Church-yard, Edin-
burgh. By James Brown. 1867.
Ancient and Modern Metrical Epitaphs. Edited
% the Rev. John Booth. 1868.
Curious Epitaphs, with Biographical, Genealo-
gical and Historical Notes. By W. Andrews. (1883.)
Gleanings from God's Acre, being a Collection of
Epitaphs. By John Potter Briscoe. 1883.
W. B. H. .
CHURCHES USED FOR THE ELECTION or
"MUNICIPAL OFFICERS (US. xii. 360, 404, 430,
470, 511 ; 12 S. i. 38, 437 ; v. 127).— I am
•greatly obliged to MR. SELF WEEKS for the
information given at the last reference,
which corroborates my contention (11 S.
•xii. 470) that the evidence of such use of
church buildings, so far as adduced, is
-confined to the East of England, with the
single exception of Lancashire. May I
therefore beg to be allowed to take advan-
tage of the present recrudescence of tjae
subject to ask that particular attention
may be given to the question whether
the assertion made by the late Dr. Cox in
nis ' English Parish Chmch ' can be sup-
ported by any evidence ? The statement,
namely, that such elections used to take
place in the churches respectively of Totnes
•and Plymouth. ,
With regard to the case of Totnes, I know
that the best local authorities have disputed
the meaning of the document, the words of
which seem to have given rise to the state-
ment. As to Plymouth, while old in-
habitants, like myself, can remember the
time when the " Ctuardians " of the poor
were annually elected by " scratching," as
it was contemptuously called, in both the
" old " churches of the town, yet these
were not, and have never been reckoned in
any sense as, municipal officers, like the
mayor and aldermen of the borough.
W. S. B. H.
JOHN MIERS, THE PROFILIST (12 S.
iv. 45, 141). — In view of the numerous
inquiries and replies which have appeared
in ' N. & Q.' from time to time respecting
this artist in piofile, it would appear desir-
able to draw attention to the article recently
contributed by Mr. G. D. Limib, F.S.A.,
with the above heading for title, to the
' Miscellanea,' vol. xxiv., of the Thoresby
Society. Mr. Lumb's paper contains with-
out doubt the fullest account of Miers's
life and work, his family and connexions.
Profiles of the artist and others are attached.
A list of profiles identified as the work of
Miers or his firm, with the names of the
present owners, and in many cases with
the purchase price, is not the least in-
teresting feature of this valuable contribu-
tion. J. H. LETHBRIDGE MEW.
NEW SHAKSPERE SOCIETY'S PUBLICATIONS
(12 S. iv. 77, 143, 170, 338).— Many thanks to
CAPT. JAGGARD for reference to his ' Shake
speare Bibliography ' for a list of these
publications ; but even this list is not quite
complete, as I have Part 14 of Series I
(Transactions, 1887-92, Part 4, 1904), and
though this is mentioned in the numbers
given in the record on p. 231, it is not given
on p. 228. Neither is No. 14 of Series VI
(Robert Laneham's Letter) mentioned in
the detailed list or record.
ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
FRENCH REVOLUTION : " EAT CAKE "
(12 S. iv. 272: v. 53).— I think that the
letter from Lady Dillon to the editor of
The Daily Mail, which appeared in that
paper on Nov. 14, 1916, gives a very good
explanation of what Marie Antoinette
really meant, if she did use the words
attributed to her. I have read — I know
not where — that the question was asked
by the Dauphin.
Lady Dillon states that Marie Antoinette
did not know how the poor lived, and that
she wanted to know why the peasants did
not eat the caisses which contained the
12 S. V. JUNE, 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
'rench pates, these caisses being generally
lirown away. , As the caisse was made of
lour and water, it was eatable. " A bad
ranslation gave the word * cake ' for ' case.' "
HEBBEBT SOUTHAM.
[Lady Dillon's suggestion is ingenious, but the
lying 'is older than Marie Antoinette, as shown by
j.G.G. ante, p. 53.]
ALABACTJLIA, NAME OF A RACEHOBSE
12 S. v. 98). — The word was coined from
he name of a distinguished Oriental ad-
renturer Ali Bey Kuli, a native of Circassia,
rho for some time arrested the attention of
he politicians of Europe by his revolt
•gainst the Porte in 1770 and his attempt
o found a new dynasty in Egypt.
WILLOIJGHBY MAYCOCK.
BYBON'S BUST AT OXFOBD (12 S. v. 122).
— Thorwaldsen executed, apparently, more
han one portrait of the poet. To begin
vith, there is the famous seated figure in the
ibrary of Trinity College, Cambridge, or-
Lered, according to the ' D.N.B./ by Hob-
louse in 1829, finished in 1834, refused a
>lace in the Abbey by two deans of West-
ninster, and accepted for Trinity College
>y Whewell in 1843. Hobhouse was raised
o the peerage as Baron Broughton de
jryfford. Is Y. T. right in speaking of his
laughter Lady Broughton ?
I have a clear recollection of being shown,
ome thirty years ago, a bust of Byron in
he Biblioteca Ambrosiana at Milan by
he learned librarian Canon Antonio Ceriani,
tnd of his remarking, " This bust was —
T — sculpted by Thorwaldsen."
Baedeker, ' Ober-Italien,' ]902, p. 87,
aentions it. EDWABD BENSLY.
" PENNILES BENCH" (12 S. v. 126).—
^yon's ' Hist. Dover,' vol. i. p. 19, gives the
ollowing : —
"'Severns's Gate.'— This gate fronted Bench
street, and in the apartments over it the customer
>f the port anciently received the King's dues.
Here was a place paved with stone, where the
nerchants used to meet, about eleven o'clock in the
orenoon, to transact business, and in a course of
ime it was called Pennyless Bench."
R. J. FYNMOBE.
Sandgate,
MEWS OB MEWYS FAMILY (12 S.f ii. 26,
)3, 331, 419, 432 ; iii. 16, 52, 113, 195, 236,
1:21, 454 ; iv. 166).— The Rev. John Thom-
inson in his ' Diary,' under date Oct. 18,
L717, writes: "King Charles used to say
>f Peter Mew that he should preach and
ight with any man in England " ('North
Country Diaries,' Surtees Society Publica-
tions, vol. cxviii. p. 85). The editor, J.
Hodgson, F.S.A., in a foot-note adds r
"Peter Mews, D.D., Bishop of Winchester,,
who lent his horses for the artillery at
Sedgemoor." J. W. FAWCETT.
GOOD FBTDAY PLEASUBE FAIBS (12 S.
v. 124). — The gathering of persons, mostly
young, on Holcombe Hill, near Ramsbottomr.
Lancashire, on Good Friday, can hardly be
called a pleasure fair — it is more like a mob
of picnickers. There are a few local stalls
and swingboats at the foot of the hill, and,,
perhaps, a couple of common -lodging-house-
looking men singing and selling comic songs.
The farmhouse on the top of the hill has some
swings for children, and a band generally
plays up there for dancing. The main thing
for the visitors is to climb the moorland hill
and the 120 ft. tower on its top. Teas are-
provided at the farmhouse and at most of
the houses round about the hill. Holcombe
is visited all through the summer by pleasure
parties, but the biggest crowd is there on
Good Friday. The erection of the tower on
the top to the memory of Sir Robert Peel in
1852 may have been the first cause of crowds
assembling there at holiday time. I doubt
if the custom dates farther back than the
middle of last century.
There are several lesser Good Friday
resorts in this neighbourhood : Ashworth
Valley, Simpson Clough, Birtle Dene, and
Grant's Tower. This last tower was erected
by the brothers Grant, who are said to have
been the originals of Dickens's " Cheeryble
Brothers." It is on Top -o'-th' -Hough to
the east of Ramsbottom. Holcombe Hill,
much higher, is to the west of the town.
Queen's Park, given by Queen Victoria to
the borough of Heywood (1879), used to be a
Good Friday resort for this district, but its
novelty seems to have fallen off. Heaton
Park, Manchester's big breathing space, is
now much patronized on Good Friday and
other holidays, as it is easily reached from
all parts of this populous district by electric
train and tram. Hollingworth Lake, near
Rochdale, is another much frequented Good
Friday resort. WT. H. PINCHBECK.
Bury, Lanes.
During the first half of the eighteenth
century a great " Market or Fair for Cattle "
was held at Wimborne on Good Friday, and
was continued for seven weeks afterwards.
To this the Pleasure Fair was naturally an
adjunct. In the year 1765 the date of the
commencement of the fair was changed
from Good Friday to Friday in the preceding
week, and it was succeeded by a market for
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-oattle which was continued for some weeks
afterwards. (Cf. Russell's ' Vindogladia,'
p. 4, Herman Moll's 'New Description of
^England and Wales,' London, 1724, and
Hutchins' 'History of Dorset,' iii. p. 180.)
JAS. M. J. FLETCHER.
The Vicarage, Wiraborne Minster.
The Eve Fair at Grantham, which
breaks out, or used to break, as from
the smouldering embers of a famous gala
held on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday
after the fifth Sunday in Lent, is the nearest
thing I know of to a Good Friday Fair.
Easter Eve is hardly a day on which one
would expect to find the "rabble rout"
asserting itself. ST. SWITHIN.
MAY (12 S. v. 123).— Florentine b. 1732,
was probably son of the Rev. Wm. May,
B.A., St. John's, Camb., rector of Kingston,
Jamaica, by his second wife Bathsua
Beokford. He d. at sea June 4, 1747,
aged 15, on his passage to Boston for the
recovery of his health (Archer, p. 102).
The rector left an only surviving son Rose
Hearing May, who was at Eton in 1752,
but sent his sons to Westminster, viz., Wm.
Vassal! May, d. at Bath, Dec;. C, 1811,
Florentius May and Rose May.
V. L. OLIVER.
About 1815 there was living at Maidstone
William May, M.D.. described as author of
medical works of 1790 and 1792, and of
various papers in The London Medical
- Journal. W. B. H.
" ROUGH " AS HOUSE-NAME (12 S. v. 97):
•—The ' E.D.D.' gives as the twelfth signi-
fication of "rough": "A small \\ood;
a rough wooded place ; a moor overgi own
with leather ; uncultivated land ; an ^n-
closure." It cites as examples the placo-
name Great Comberton Ruff, and the quota-
tion : " Philipps promised to feed the horse
in a rouah or enclosure."
Under " Rowless " (also roughleaze, row-
lass, roughless) is the expression " rowless
tenement," which denoted apparently land
without a house attached to it, or " waste
and unprofitable land" (1646). So, too, a
" rowless thing." N. W. HILL.
DICKENS' s TOPOGRAPHICAL SLIPS : A PECU-
LIARITY OF STYLE (12 S. v. 37, 136).— In
chap, xxxii. of ' David Copperfield ' a
record is made of grant of probate to the
will of Barkis, a carrier, who died near
Yarmouth, but in the county of Suffolk.
The will, as is shown by chap, xxxi., was of
personalty, amounting to three thousand
pounds and existing in one diocese. Dickens
states that probate was granted at Doctors*
Commons. Surely, it would have been
granted at a provincial registry.
In the same work, in chap, xlv., Dickens
has two instances of a peculiarity of style,
used by him in passages purporting to be
solemn or pathetio. It consists of a treble
protasis with treble repetition of the initial
words, the third protasis being disjunctive
and the words of desire being contained in
a short apodosis.
Thus, that irritating super, TVlrs. Strong,
when explaining to her imbecile husband
her failure to commit adultery, says : —
" If I have any friend here, who can speak one
word for me, or etc. ; if I have any friend who can
give a voice to any suspicion that, etc. ; if I have
any friend here, who honours my husband, or etc.,
I implore that friend to speak."
Curiously enough, this style is feminine.
I have observed it in the addresses of
married ladies, who catch their breath at
each protasis and repeat themselves to
prevent the interjection of remark or
remonstrance by their spouses, or possibly
to gain time, wherein to formulate a false
accusation in a plausible shape. But I have
never observed the adaptation of this
very artificial form to pathos. A woman,
in real sorrow will often, even in the pre-
sence of observers, manifest herself naturally,
mal(/re novelists.
MARGARET WHITEBROOK.
" PRO PELLE CUTEM " (12 S. v. 93, 132).—
I have little doubt that the Hudson's Bay
motto is a perversion of Juvenal, Sat. X. 192,
" pro cute pellem." Cutis is the skin of the
living animal, pdlis of the dead. They
probably knew more about Juvenal than
about Job in the Vulgate in those days.
R. H. B. BOTTOM.
Highgate.
ANTHONY TODD, SECRETARY OF THE
G.P.O. (12 S. iv. 11, 114; v. 104).— The
late Rev. C. B. Norcliffe in his privately
printed account of ' Robinson of White
House, Appleby,' 1874, states that : —
" Anthony Todd was, I believe, son of Anthony
Todd, Esq. who died 15th November. 1767, and
who was sprung from the parish of Wolsingham,
co. Durham He had issue Charlotte, Ann (bap-
tised 7th April, 1765). who both died young, and
Eleanor, who married 15th August, 1782, James,
Viscount Maitland, eighth Earl of Lauderdale.'
After giving particulars of the family of the
latter Mr. Norcliffe proceeds : —
" Truth compels us to declare that no reliance
whatever can be placed on parts of the account in
Sir B. Burke's Peerage of the family of Sir Lionel
12 S. V. JUNE, 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
165
Eldred Smith. Anthony Todd did not marry Eleanor
Smith, nor John Robinson, M.P., Elizabeth Smith,
as there stated ; and although uncle and nephew
do sometimes marry two sisters, they do not die at
an interval of sixty years."
Mr. Norcliffe was an. eminent genealogist
and he. informed me that the Rev. H. J.
Todd, who edited Dr. Johnson's Dictionary,
was a relative of his. Therefore the Rev.
H. J. Todd would be a descendant of
Anthony Todd. G. D. LTJMB.
Leeds.
ANGUISH STREET: "SCORES" (12 S.
v. 122). — J. R. H. is clearly mistaken.
Anguish Street has no such intriguing deri-
vation as he imagines, but the commonplace
one of having been named from the Anguish
family of Somerleyton, who held the manor
of Lowest oft with other manors adjacent
in the hundred of Lothing, Suffolk, in the
eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries.
The street is a merely modern compliment
to a very prosaic memory.
" Scores " is still a general term in
Norfolk and Suffolk for the deep narrow
indentations in a hillside.
The gangways to the sea and to the
marshes by the sides of the rivers Ore and
Deben in Suffolk are often called " scores " —
hence the term as applied to the steep lanes
running down to the seacoast at Lowestoft.
I hazard the suggestion that the word is
Norse in origin. H. W. B. A^AYMAN.
I do not suppose that the " wives and
mithers ' maist despairin' " of Lowestoft
have been accustomed to speak of " anguish,"
or believe that the street mentioned by
your correspondent was called after their
emotion. I suspect that the name imports
narrow street. Elsewhere than at Lowes-
toft a " score " denotes, as the ' E.D.D.'
assures us, " a vertical indentation in a hill,
a gangway down a cliff," and so forth :
roughly speaking a score is a mark, a track,
a dividing line or lines. ST. SWITHIN.
In St. Andrews, Fife, there is what —
though now a street — was within my
memory a roughish pathway ; but it still
goes under the name of " The Scores."
This runs parallel to, and within a few yards
of, the cliffs which are washed by the North
Sea. There appears to be little or no
doubt that this name is a corruption of the
old Scottish word " scaur " or " scar "
vide Jamieson's ' Scottish Dictionary ' —
" a cliff " or "a bare place on the side of a
steep hill, from which the sward has been
washed down by rains."
What may further corroborate ' this ex-
planation is that this road probably co-
incides with the 50-feet Beach Terrace of
geologists, while to the immediate south
of the city are still well shown two of the
higher sea Beach Terraces.
ALEX. THOMS.
7 Playfeir Terrace, St. Andrews, Fife.
A favourite promenade in Irvine was
styled the " High Score." It extended
from the north port or gate to the old
harbour and shore. In 1646-7, when, during
the plague, Glasgow University classes were
temporarily removed to Irvine, the " High
Score " was the favourite walk of the red-
gowned students. A part of the same walk
was called the " Low Score." The name is
now known only to the very oldest in-
habitants. Prof. Skeat gives the name as
of Scandinavian origin, meaning " a gang-
way down to the sea-shore." Another
local name of like origin is " Halfway " —
haaf meaning the open sea.
R. M. HOGG.
Irvine.
' [CoL. FYMVIORE also thanked for reply.]
GEORGE BORROW (12 S. iv. 242, 311).—
To the authorities already indicated may
profitably be added ' In the Footsteps of
Borrow and Fit z Gerald,' by Morley Adams.
The book was issued by Jarrold & Sons,
but is (vexatiously enough) undated. I
think I purchased it (1915) when recently
published. The Borrow itinerary begins
at p. 174 at Lowestoft with a view of
Sorrow's Lodge, Oulton, near the site of
the now demolished house in which ' The
Bible in Spain,' ' Lavengro,' and * The
Romany Rye ' were written. Excellent
photographs of Borrow's House, Willow
Lane, Norwich, and of his birthplace,
Dumpling Green, East Dereham, as also of
himself in youth and old age, further
enhance the value of the volume.
J. B. McGovERN.
St. Stephen's Rectory, C.-on-M., Manchester.
MISSEL THRUSH AND MISTLETOE SEEDS
(12 S. v. 98, 132).— The earliest extant form
of the Latin proverb is that found in Ser-
vius's commentary on Vergil, ' ^neid,'
vi. 205 (the " Golden Bough " episode).
After mentioning Pliny's account ('Nat.
Hist.,' xvi. 247) of the sowing of the mistletoe
by thrushes, the commentator adds " unde
Plautus ' Ipsa eibi avis mortem creat '
(Plautus, ' Fragmenta,' 1. 168, in vol. ii. of
Lindsay's Oxford text). Isidorus, Bishop
of Seville, whose ' Origines ' was so popular
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-in the Middle Ages, ascribes the propagation.
• of mistletoe to the thrush (' Orig.' xii. 7,71),
with the remark " unde et proverbium apud
antiques erat, malum sibi avem cacare."
Erasmus in his ' Adagia,' under " Turdus
ipse sibi malum cacat," quotes the fragment
of Plautus, arguing that we should read the
'last word as "cacat," not " creat." He
does not notice the passage of Isidorus,
Tjut supports his emendation by quoting as
a Greek equivalent, Ki^Xa x^« <™T>J KO-KOV.
Burman, ' Virgilii Opera,' 1746, vol. iii.
p. 37, approved of Erasmus's proposal.
A. Otto, who gives the fragment of Plautus
and the words of Isidorus in his ' Sprich-
worter der Romer,' p. 52 under Avis, 4),
is in favour of reading " cacat,"* but the
writer of the article Caco in the * Thesaurus
Linguae Latinse ' thinks that while Plautus
is alluding to the proverb which Isidorus
cites he avoids the word "eacat."
Otto has no quotation for the form
'* Turdus ipse sibi malum cacat," which
is possibly a later development, based
on the passages in Servius and Isidorus.
Neither does he mention the Greek form
of the saying produced by Erasmus. The
* Adagia,' though an indispensable book,
must be used with caution.
EDWARD BENSLY.
"DAVERDY" (12 S. v. 11).— I do not
know the word " daverdy " as applied to
brown, but I have heard in this county of
Durham the word " verdy -brown " applied
to a greenish brown, or faded coat or dress.
J. W. FAWCETT.
Consett, co. Durham.
THE SWIN- (12 S. v. 95, 130).— Swin is
from svinnr (Icelandic), meaning swift ;
therefore a swiffc-running channel or stream.
See ' Icelandic Dictionary,' Cleasby and
Vigfusson, p. 611, and list of British river-
names at end of book.
Streatfeild in his ' Lincolnshire and the
Danes,' p. 194, refers to Swin water — Aqua
de Swin (Hundred Rolls).
ALEX. G. MOFFAT.
" RAIN CATS AND DOGS " (12 S. iv. 328 ;
v. 108). — I think I have read somewhere that
this phrase is a corruption of tempo cattivo
(bad weather), and that it was introduced
into England by Nehon's sailors who had
served in Italian waters.
FREDERIC D. HARPORD.
* Both Otto, op. tit., and Prof. Lindsay in his
edition of Plautus, nass over Erasmus and ascribe
the emendation to Burman.
THE ' NEW ENGLISH DICTIONARY ' :
CHANGES IN ACCENTUATION (12 S. v. 32,
105, 137). — Milton has in' finite many times,
usually at the end of a line. In * Paradise
Lost,' v. 874, he has : —
Hoarse murmur echoed to his words applause
Through the infinite host. Nor less for that
where my ear certainly requires a heavy
middle syllable. How does he stress the
word infamous ? ' N.E.D/ says that in-
fa'mous was usual up to 1730, but that Milton
has in'famous. I suppose the reference is
to ' Samson,' 417 : —
Unmanly, ignominious, infamous,
for ' Comus,' 424, is inconclusive, as the
word begins the line ; arid in ' On the Death
of a Fair Infant,'
Thereby to wipe away the infamous blot,
one would naturally read infa'mous. Is it
not possible to adopt the same stress in the
line from ' Samson,' by giving full value to
all the syllables of ignominious ?
G. G. L.
To AD- JUICE (12 S. v. 70, 103).— A page
on ' Venins de crapauds et de salamandres '
is given in G. Roederer's ' Venins animaux '
(Bulletin des Sciences Pharmacologiques, 1916,
xxiii. 300—304). Additional items from
recent French scientific journals are readily
accessible, but there is so much unreasonable
reluctance regarding toads that the above
may suffice here. ROCKINGHAM.
Boston, Moss.
W. H. ARNOLD (12 S. v. 126) seems to
refer to Samuel James Arnold, of whom an
account is given in the ' D.N.B.,' where his
date is 1774-1852. R. H. B. BOTTOM.
GRAVES PLANTED WITH FLOWERS (12 S.
v. 15). — The custom of planting flowers on
graves is an old one. Wm. Tegg in ' The
Last Act : being the Funeral Rites of Nations
and Individuals ' (1876), says : —
"The custom of decorating grave-;. was once
universally prevalent : osiers were carefully bent
over them to keep the turf uninjured, and about
them were planted evergreens and flowers."
The following extract shows that the
custom was far older than the time of Mrs.
Piozzi's tour : —
" We adorn their graves with flowers and
redolent plants, just emblems of the life of man,
which has been compared in Holy Scriptures to
those fading beauties, whose roots, being buried
in dishonour, rise again in glory." — Evelyn's
' Sylva ' (1664).
Aubrey (1626-97), in his 'Miscellanies,'
records the custom at Oakley, in Surrey, of
planting rose-trees on the grave 3 of lovers
by the survivors. ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
12 S. V.JUNE, 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
167
BURT, MINIATURE PAINTER (12 S. iv. 47,
115, 194). — Birmingham can be added to
the list of towns in which Albin K. Burl:
painted miniatures. I removed the oval
glass and card from the red-leather case ;
on the back of the card is written in ink :
" Painted by | A. K Burt | Birmingham."
HERBERT SOUTHAM.
BADULLA, CEYLON : TOMBSTONE INSCRIP-
TION (12 S. v. 37, 78).— I should have men-
tioned in my reply that an illustration of
Mrs. Wilson's tombstone, reproduced from
a photograph, appeared some years ago in
The Strand Magazine ; but I am unable
just now to give the date.
PENRY LEWIS.
HERVEY OR HERVET (12 S. v. 95).- —
This surname is probably of continental
origin, the Norman Herve being cognate
with German Herwegh— -a recent poet's
name — from kere-wic, army dwelling, or
encampment. Hence we get Hervey, Har-
vey, Hervot, Hervet, &c. Hervot, Hervet,
Hervit, are doubtless diminutives, as Pierrot
is from Pierre. N. W. HILL.
'Corn from Olde Fieldes: an Anthology of English
Poems from the Fourteenth to the Seventeenth
Century. By Eleanor M. Brougham. (Lane,
7*. 6d. net.)
THE making of an Anthology forms a delightful
occupation, and it is surely as much to that fact
as to any other that we may impute the astonishing
number of these collections. Miss Brougham's
field of search lies, as a whole, so far behind us,
that anything whatsoever culled from it possesses
some interest, were it only through that quality of
** quaintness " which time has imparted to it. If
this volume gives pleasure to the reader — as it
certainly does — it must have given tenfold greater
pleasure to the compiler. In fact, it may be said
that this pleasure has caused, now and again, too
facile and indiscriminating an admiration. Most
•of the really admirable things here are well known
and fairly easily accessible. The hitherto almost
unknown pieces — the bulk of the book — if they
had not the charm of age, would, in many cases,
no more than bear comparison with the good
magazine verse of to-day, and would, in some cases,
not even so far hold their own.
It is, however, quite unfair to approach this
pleasant compilation in the spirit which criticism
of that sort implies. One should rather dip into
it, or go through it, in the mood and with the
expectations which one brings to a survey of old
family letters and photographs, bits of china,
plate or furniture, good and solid and desirable
•enough to have descended through several genera-
tions, but not works of genius or proper for a
museum. They have something in them that
thrills ; but it is not their intrinsic value. It is,
actually, the fact of their being not choice, not
rare, not linked with startling histories, but, at
their own date, ordinary— a part of the neat and
comely banality of life, whose function was rather
to make going easy than to arrest — it is this itself
which thrills. Now, in every generation, a certain
amount of verse is part of the same scheme.
Each period fashions its own to its liking, just as
it varies the patterns on its china, and the outlines
of its chairs and tables. So much of it as becomes
commonplace gets to itself a peculiar significance,
in virtue of that very commonplaceness, a worth
and significance different, and differently to be
judged, from the worth of classical achievements
which live on in their own right. This is the kind
of verse which has here been brought together, so
far as the chief portion of the book is concerned,
and it is by realizing, first of all, its true quality
that it can best be enjoyed.
The poems chosen are grouped under the head-
ings "Religion," "Love," "Death," with a ''Mis-
cellany " at the end. The topics are much the
same frcm one century to another— the earlier
having the advantage in directness, the latter in
developed imagination. The compiler supplies
short biographical notes, which, when they deal
with writers like Herbert, Vaughan, and Crashaw,
seem a little too crude and slight even for their
necessarily small compass,but are good and sufficient
when it comes to dealing with the several " mini-
mus " poets whose effusions are brought before us.
Antiquaries and students of literature will find
matter of interest here ; but we would recommend
the book principally to the average person who
cares for poetry — and riot for great poetry only,
but for the current expression in verse of every-
body's ideas. Things made with the straight-
forward simplicity and artless pleasure in the
making which characterize most of these produc-
tions hardly seem a matter for learned comment ;
hardly can become so merely by being old. We
hope this collection will have a fate uncommon
among books drawn from bygone times— that of
being taken as it stands and enjoyed without more
than a casual reference to the questions of scholar-
ship with which it is connected.
The Story of Doctor Johnson : being an Introduction
to BoswelVs Life. By S. C. Roberts. (Cam-
bridge, University Press, 4s. 6d. net.)
BOSWEIX'S ' Life of Johnson ' is, as Mr. Roberts
remarks in his Preface, " a long and, outwardly,
formidable work," neglected by many who might
enjoy it. Here is an excellent introduction to it,
full of plums, and attractively illustrated with
contemporary portraits and views. Mr. Roberts
— a member, we believe, of the staff of the Uni-
versity Press before he went to the War — is
evidently a lover of Johnson and Boswell, and has
used with, skill to fill out his picture other memoirs
concerning the great literary dictator. His
choice of passages from Boswell is admirable, and
his sketches of Johnson's chief friends are always
judicious. Sometimes we wish to emphasize a
point he has hinted, or to give more detail, as in
his sketch of Johnson as " The True-Born
Englishman." This would, however, be taking
the standpoint of a Boswellian rather than of an
introducer, who cannot be expected or desired to
say everything that matters. ' The Tour to the
Hebrides ' has, quite rightly, a chapter to itself.
We wonder how many people know that Johnson
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wrote a memoir concerning this journey as well as
Boswell. Mr. Roberts has been hampered by the
exigencies of war in preparing his book, but he is
well equipped in all essentials.
His ' Bibliographical Note ' at the end is really
useful. Johnson's Collected Works, as he says,
are easily obtainable secondhand, and, we may
add, at a very moderate price. Macaulay's and
Carlyle's essays must, we suppose, be mentioned,
but neither of them is first-rate. Besides Sir
Leslie Stephen's volume in the " English Mon of
Letters," there is an excellent paper in his ' Hours
in a Library ' ; and the University Press itself
has published in Jebb's ' Essays and Addresses '
a delightful paper on Johnson. We rather wish
that, when he was mentioning the house in Gough
Square, Mr. Roberts had added that it has been
well repaired, and is now a Johnson Museum full
of interesting things. Mr. W. P. Courtney's
' Johnson Bibliography,' 1915, is authoritative,
and a very thoroiigh piece of work which every
student should know.
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contains tracts, broadsides, proclamations, &c.,
and its 79U entries afford many side-lights upon
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Catalogue 118 is devoted to 'Rare and Interest-
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C 0 N T E N T S. — No. 94.
NOTES :— Aliens in Maidstone in 1567. 169— De Miners
Family, 170— A Reverie in Old Ratcliffe, 171— Boutell's
Punning Catalogue of Painting and Sculpture, 173—
Inscriptions in St. James's Church, Sydney— The Greek
Flag, 174— Tanks (Military)— Literature and Iconography
of London Peace Celebrations, 175— Knox's 'Spirit oj
Despotism "—Sir Nicholas Bagnal and the Earls of
TTilwut*.^*? TJ/ic-TTT^lTa * T/tVinarkYi * . a flnrrant.irm ** "V
Kilmorey— Boswell's ' Johnson ' : a Correction—" Non-
naturals," 176— "Sniffle-shuffle"— " Let the weakest go
to the wall "—Defoe and Alexander Selkirk— Monuments
in Sydney — Heredity : Long Hair, 177 — East, Anglian
Characters and Characteristics— "Tamasha," 178.
QUERIES :— Proclamation Stones, 178— William Hoorde
—Byron's 'Don Juan'— Harvard University: Thomas
Shepard, 179—" As jolly as sandboys" — Durrow Castle —
Miss Helen Maria Williams— Morbus Anglicus— General
John Nicholson— Sir Thomas Colby — Heraldic : Woolmer,
Liphook, Hants — Bowshot : the Longest — Jeremiah
Wainewright, 180— Fish-yard— Fenner Family— Boulogne :
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and Sampson Families — "Thunder" — Breslau — Thames
Tunnels, Bibliography, 181 — Miss Sarah Fielding -
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well— Inscriptions in St. John the Evangelist's, Waterloo
Road— The Ant-bear and the Tortoise, 193— "Get the
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ALIENS IN MAIDSTONE IN 1567.
THE following documents should be read
in conjunction with Dr. Cunningham's
' Alien Emigrants to England,' pp. 149-50.
London and Southwark appear to have
been somewhat surfeited with foreigners at
this period, and Maidstone here claims her
share of the surplus population. As regards
the new industries to be introduced, a
monopoly of Spanish leather had been
granted in 1565, so either there was im-
pending infringement, or the new residents
were working under the patent in question.
Frisados," earthen pots, armour, and
paper formed the subjects of subsequent
patents. " Dottenye " appears as " Dot-
tegnye " in the Huguenot Society's publica-
tion viii.
The first is from the State Papers
Domestic, Elizabeth, vol. 4?, no. 19, June,
1567 : —
To the Queries moste excellent Matic
Pleaseth yor highnes at the humble sute of yor
obedient Subiects the Maior, Juratts and Comln-
altie of yor Mate Towne and p'isshe oi All Seynts
of Maydeston in yor Countie of Kent to graunte
to them yor gracious licens by yor Mate letters
pattents to be made in due forme of the lawe for
the receipts and placynge wthin the same towne
of this nomber of threscore families of the
straungers peregrines and artificers of the severall
faculties and misteries hereunder mencioned.
And yor said humble subiects accordinge to their
most bounden dueties shall contynually prey to
God for the prosperous Raign of yor highnes
longe to endure.
Makers of
Saies Tykes for fetherbeddes
Mockados Arras and Tapissary
Grograyne Chamletts Spanish lether
Russetts Flaunde
Chamlett=<
Wevers of diaper
Damaske and
Lynnen Clothe
Sackclothe
Stametts
Baies
Frisados
Flaunders potts
Paving tyle and bricke
Brasiers
White and
browne paper
Corsetts and
hedde peces and
all kynde of Armor
Gonne pouther
Flaunders wollen clothe
And many other Artes and Sciences -wch are
not there knowen beinge bothe necessary and
profitable for the common wealthe.
[Endorsed : ] The maior & jurats of Maydstone
for licence to receave 30 housholders of
Straungers crafts men into theyr towne.
The other is an extract from Patent Roll
9 Eliz., part 4, no. 1033 : —
Elizabeth, by the grace of God [&c.].
Know ye that for divers especiall considerations
as well for the helpe, repair and amendment of
our towne of Maidston in our County of Kent,
by placing in the same men of knowledge in
sondrye handy crafts as also for the relief and
convenient placing of certaine Duchemen aliens
nowe residing within our Citie of London and
ells where, within our realme of England, being
very skilfull in divers Arts, occupacions, handy-
crafts and faculties which may tende to tne
cominoditie of our Realme, We of our especiall
grace do grant and licence by these presents,
power free libertie and authoritie unto Our
wellbeloved the Maior, Jurats and Commonaltye
of our towne and parish of All Saints of Maideston
aforesaid, and to Michael of Orly, arrace-worker,
Thilip Velemyncke, weaver, Anthony de Scyeter,
Ferdinand Dottenye, and to suche other of the
said alyens borne being Duciie and not denizens
and having knowledge of the several occupacions,
artes, handycrafts and faculties hereafter ex-
pressed as shall extend in the whole to the
170
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. v. JULY, 1919.
number of thirty householders of the said Duche-
men Aliens, and who shall be allowed from time
to time to be mete for their profession in Cristen
religion, that they shall have and enjoy any
benefice, commoditie or things which hereafter
in these premises are specified, that is to say,
that the said Maior [&c.] may receive and permit
to be inhabiting within our towne of Maidston
aforesaid the said Michaell Orly [and others
above-named] and the residue of the said thirty
householders, Duchemen Alyens, with their
servants and families being Duche people or
English, and that the said Maior f&c.] may
demise, grant or let to ferine for a term of 21 years
or under, to any of the said Duchmen Aliens, any
of the said messuages, dwelling houses, tene-
ments or shops, within the said towne, in as
ample manner as they may lawfullie do unto any
of our liege subjects. And further the said
Michael Orly, Anthony de Scieter, Ferdinand
Dotteny and* the rest of the said Duchen Aliens,
with their servants not excedinc: the uombre of
twelve in eche of theier households and famylies,
not exceeding the number of thirtie householdes ;
for the only exerciseing of the faculty of weaving,
making and working of mockadott, Chamletts,
Grograine Chamletts, Russells, Diapers, Damaske
and lyning clothes, sackclothe, Flanders woollen
cloth, arras and tapissarie, featherbedtycks,
Spanish lether, Flanders potts, paving tyles and
brike, brasiers, white and brown paper, corselets,
and all other kinds of armor and gonne powder,
or of any other arts, may lawfully and safely
inhabit within the said towne of Maideston, and
any of the wares by them there to be wrought, to
sell in gross only and not by retail.
Dated 4 November, 1567.
E. WYNDHI.M HULME.
THE DE MINERS FAMILY.
(See ante, pp. 16, 72, 101.)
THE name of this family of landowners,
taken from Les Minieres (Dept. Eure),
Normandy, occurs as early as before 1104,
in the following connexion.
Henry of Elmbridge, with consent of his
wife Heloise and their heirs, and of his lord,
Gilbert de Miners, sold to Hugh Purchas all
the land held from (the manor of) Foxcote
next the fields of Coberley (i.e , Little
Cubberley, co. Glos.), which Roger Crocton,
and his son Robert, with his wife, gave to
him. The actual charter gives Roger's name
as Corzon = Curzon. With it went the
render of a pound of cummin to the lord of
Foxcote, annually, on the feast of St. Oswald
(cf. ' Hist, et Cart. S. Petri, Glos.,' i. 70).
Another grant, c. 1150, by Alexander of
Elmbridge, the son, mentions that his father
had received this land in marriage with
Heselyn, Alexander's mother, so it is clear
that her name was Curzon. That was in
Abbot Serlo's time (1072-1104). This land
is identified, 170 years later, in Kirby's
' Quest,' in the following manner : —
"Foxcote is held by William Curzon (Cresson
for three portions of a fee from the Templars (i.e. of
Quenington), and these, from the heirs of De Miners,
and their heirs, themselves, from the Bishop of
Worcester ; and the Bishop, from the King ; by
Barony."
The De Miners, therefore, were tenants some
time before 1104 (when Abbot Serlo died)
of the Bishop of Worcester. The neighbour-
ing Colesbourne was held of the Bishop at
the same date by Walter Fitz Roger, ancestor
of the De Bohuns. But as in 1086 one Morin
held Foxcote, and it consisted of 3 hides, it
is clear that the De Miners had succeeded, as
lords there, to Morin. The Rev. Charles Taylor
(' Domesday Survey of Glouc.,' p. 155)
conjectures that Morin was connected with
Walter Fitz Roger. To this I venture to add
that Gilbert de Miners was presumably a
close connexion, and probably a cousin. We
find him answering for the Pleas of Milo of
Gloucester and Pain Fitz John in 1130 (P.R.);
and we have seen him claiming, as late as
1127, in the King's Court, the manor of
Coin St. Andrew (Roger), which had be-
longed to Roger de Gloucester, son of
Durand, the Sheriff, who died of a wound
in the head received at the siege of Falaise.
In 1166 we find a second Gilbert de
Miners holding 1 fee of the Bishop, still
according to the old feoffment. but denying
£th part of it. It is evidently the same
that his father, or grandfather, had held in
Henry I.'s reign.
We may here note other connexions,
particularly with Roger de Gloucester's
property.
In 1114 the King confirmed to the monks
of Gloucester, for some manor-land at
Westbury-on-Severn which the late Roger
de Gloucester had given them, certain other
land at Hatherley and at Sandhurst. (Cf.
Trans. Bristol and Glos. Arch. Soc., vol. xli.)
This manor without a name at Westbury
had belonged to Durand, Roger's father.
It is noteworthy that we find Henry II.
granting a manor at the same Westbury to
Roger de Miners for the service of one
soar-hawk or xxs. rent per an. (Cf. P.Q.W.,
a. 15 Edw. I., n. 17). Moreover, in 1175/6
(P.R., a. 22) William de Miners is found to
be the custodian of the manor of Hatherley
with the daughter of Roger de Troilli, of
the fee of Richard de Clare.
Before 1158 Gilbert de Miners confirmed
the grant by his homager, Roger Parvus
(Little), of 8 acres of land at Brookthorpe
and Whaddon to St. Peter's, Glos. — being
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
171
Ills overlord. Gilbert's fellow-witness to
this deed is William de Hereford (i.e., Milo
•of Gloucester's youngest son).
This Roger Parvus was son and heir to
Hugh* Parvus (who was fellow- witness with
the Abbot of Winchcomb to Roger de
'Gloucester's grant of Coin St. Andrew to
the Abbey of St. Peter in 1106), and he had
for his wife Margery, daughter of Ralph de
'Sudeley, with whose dower he held 6 virgates,
or yardlands, at Stanley Pont Larche.
Further, his mother (also Margery) was
daughter to Ernulf de la Feld of the Rudge
by Standish (near Brookthorpe) — all places
in Gloucestershire.
We now turn to 1166 and the * Liber
Niger ' and ' Liber Rubeus.' Here we find
a second Hugh Parvus holding 4 knights'
fees of Margaret de Bohun, and Gilbert
de Miners and Hugh de Cundicote jointly,
-of her ^ a fee (at Condicote, near Stow-on-
the-Wold). These had all been enfeoffed
"in the days of her father, Milo of Gloucester
(Fitz Walter), i.e., before 1143. This fief
had also belonged to Durand, father of
Roger of Gloucester, in 1085 ; and in 1275
~we find the larger portion of Condicote
passing from De Bohun, Earl of Hereford,
to John de Stonor. Possibly this estate had
descended, not (as hitherto supposed) direct
from Durand to Walter his nephew, but
to Roger his son (of Gloucester), from him to
Wr alter, and so to Milo. Again, the Bishop
of Worcester was the overlord.
In the Rot, Curiae, 1199/1200, another
Gilbert (III.) held a plea (co. Cambridge)
as against Mabel FitzPeter, and yet another
against Mabel de Barton, concerning half a
yardland (mort d'ancest.}. The first Mabel
(if, indeed,, these are not one and the same
person) was presumably granddaughter to
Lucy FitzHerbert, Milo of Gloucester's
-daughter (3), and she could also claim
Herbert, brother of Roger of Gloucester, as
;an ancestor.
"Sciatis me dedisse... terrain quam Rogerus de
Glocestra dedit ecolesie S. Petri de Gloc : pro anima
fratris sui Herebert [i.e. at West wood in Archen-
field, Herefordshire], scilicet, duos radcnihtes et
unara ecclesiam cum 1 hida terre et 1 Molen-
dinum."
Stephen confirmed this in 1138 (cf. ' H.C.
'St. Petri, Glos.,' i. 222-3).
Though the direct evidence of an " avus "
or " pater meus " in a charter is still lacking
* I may add that this elder Hugh Parvus was a
tenant of Walter the Sheriff before 1112, and was
witness also to a charter by which Walter the
Sheriff gave North Cerney to St. Peter's, Glouc.,
,in,or before, 1106.
to complete the evidences here brought
together, it is, the writer thinks, sufficiently
presumptive that Gilbert de Miners (1) in
making his claim to Coin Roger as against
the Benedictines of Gloucester (albeit, in
vain) had the solid tie of a near blood-
relationship with the powerful Roger de
Gloucester upon which to found his claim
to Coin. ST. CLAIB BADDELEY.
A REVERIE IN OLD RATCLIFFE.
A CORRESPONDENT in South China has
manifestly seen the local and other refer-
ences in British Magazines and Miscellanies
to the fact that the memory of gallant
Captain John Weddell (the Ratcliffe con-
temporary of Oliver Cromwell and of
Maurice Thomson of Old Stepney Meeting
connexions and pious posturings at Poplar
as a sometime zealous Puritan politician)
has been curiously revived by boding
events in the limitless reserve of human
" Labour " in the Furthest East. Capt.
John Weddell, as many readers in the Port
of London area know, was, when at home,
a resident in that jumping-off place of
ocean heroes and pioneers, Old Ratcliffe.
And this seaman-adventurer silenced with
comparatively good Stepney cannon the
Chinese " batteries " near the great city
of Canton in 1634 ; and by decent gunnery
he effected his object of " Frightfulness "
without injuring the already venerable
Wall of the city. For, be it remembered,
in those days gun-making of all sorts was a
prospering art and mystery in Eastern
London Without the Wall ; and gunnery
was in almost daily practice in the Port of
London, if not for the Navy Board or Lords
of Admiralty, then for account of the
adventuring companies who were taking
the English flag into every sea, east, west,
north and south, whether charted or not,
in eager and frequently unscrupulous rivalry
with the East India Company and many
Continental combines. The place of
" proof " for all ship-guns, even so late as
the last of the Stuart kings, was " Ratcliff
Fields." And, after the Civil War and the
Restoration, we know that Master Secre-
tary Pepys, supported by his seamen -
coadjutors, was always " on the pounce "
in East London armouries, from Limehouse
Hole to the Old Artillery Ground, for a
light, strong, serviceable gun — even when
the making was alleged to cost from 12Z.
to 151. a ton — a " serviceable " weapon
being one that the navigators were not
172
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 S. V. JULY, 19191
compelled to deposit for safety in the hold
when the time came for action. Hence we
see that the East Londoner, John Browne,
King's Gun-founder, gained a reward of
200Z. for casting lighter pieces than had
been previously made. Maurice Thomson,
the very adaptable Puritan merchant-trader,
by the by, had interests in this important
matter of armament, and his deals with the
necessary saltpetre (prepared in what is
now St. George's East) were very much on
twentieth -century lines when operating for
a government. Moreover, his enemies and
trade rivals used to more than whisper
that in years agone he had traded in muskets
with the Red Indians for ever threatening
the young and struggling English settle-
ments in North America. It was Maurice
Thomson who sold (how got is perhaps a
story of the Lord Protector) the land upon
which the Old Stepney Meeting House was
erected ; and he dwelt close by in Worcester
House on Stepney Green and Stepney High
Street ; and he figured with signal unction
at the opening service in 1654 of the Old
Poplar Chapel, which extended the means
of grace to Old Stepney seamen who had
roved all over the lawless Indian Ocean.
And, withal, he usefully officiated on the
ancient Stepney Vestry (for Commonwealth
or for Royal interests as occasion served,
for events in his career showed that in mere
politics he was no bigot and worshipped no
fetish catechism) as a representative for the
principal Maritime Hamlet of Rat cliff.
But Capt. John Weddell, who is first seen
on records as Master's Mate of the East
India Company's Thames-built Dragon,
died obscurely on the homeward voyage
from India in 1639, after a life of evidently
great vicissitudes in various service in the
East, in the Persian Gulf, in the Indian
Ocean, and in the more distant China
Seas ; and no peerage came to his family,
as in the case of Maurice Thomson's.
On Dec. 4, 1623, John Weddell, then
described as " of Ratcliffe, in Middlesex,
gent., aged 40 or thereabouts," was ex-
amined before the Judge of the High Court
of Admiralty, and gave a detailed account
of his voyage when he was Commodore of a
Thames fleet that joined in the attack on
the Portuguese in the Persian Gulf, and the
consequent sack of Ormuz, which appears
to have yielded so little plunder to the
adventurers and so very much disappointed
the Duke of Buckingham, Lord High
Admiral, who greedily clamoured for his
tenths of the spoil. In 1634 John Weddell
held the commission of Admiral of the
East India Company's Fleet, given to him.
by the President and Council at Surat,
despite the Court of Directors having,
timidly called him home to London. And
the Surat Council testified in April, 1634r.
that he was
"a gentleman of valour and resolution, and second
to no man that the Company ever employed in the
care of his charge, especially at sea ; and his trac-
tability far exceeds that of many of the churlish
Commanders who conceive themselves only created
for the sole good of the fleets they command that
they desire no better, or other, way to con the
fleet."
At Canton (owing to the Portuguese in-
trigues) he had "a difficulty " with the
Chinese as before mentioned, but, after
having battered one of the forts, he was
compelled to return to Macao, to India,
and so to England, in 1640, before petition-
ing for a new commission. J. K. Laughton,
the naval historian, thought that such of
Weddell's property as was not lost in his
various adventures and mishaps was swal-
lowed up in the insolvency of Sir William-
Courten, who was conspicuous in the en-
deavour to establish a trade to the East
Indies independent of the East India-
Company. But Capt. Weddell when he
sailed from the Thames under the Courten
patronage flew the King's colours on his-
fleet of six vessels — The Dragon, The Sun,
The Katharine, The Planter, The Anne, and
The Discovery — which had cost the then
great sum of £120,000 to equip ; and the
charter which had been obtained somehow
from the crooked and needy King was valid
enough.
However, these things are rather of
the very mixed story of the doings of the
English in Asia ; all that is here sought to
emphasize is that it was no unusual thing
that a seaman of Capt. John Weddell's
quality and capacity for command should
have been resident in what is now one of the
most unlovely historical spots in all Eng-
land, with nothing whatever — as yet — to
indicate the nature of its unique record.
For generations the ancient Hamlet was &
common place of residence or lodging of
the officers and mariners in the service of
the Companies and the Associations laying
down, more or less intuitively, the founda-
tions of the wide -flung British Empire ; and1
adventurers, exploiters, Asian wanderers,
were always to be found on the local Rialto-
by Ratcliff Cross, to be used, at any rate,
by Daniel Defoe and the pamphleteers and
balladists. The first fleets of the East India-
Company are set down frequently as having-
" sailed from Woolwich," " from Blackwall,"
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
173
*' from Gravesend," &c. ; but, as has been
often reasoned by local antiquaries anc
^topographers — no matter where the barques
awaited their complements of agents, fac
tors, officers, and seamen, all voyagers alike
assembled at Ratcliff Cross and the adjacenl
Stairs in the numerous inns and taverns
which grew up rapidly ; and all were rowec
or sailed therefrom to the vessels astream
in the Lower Reaches of the Thames, de-
pendent on the varying winds and tides and
flows. The first practice of getting aboard
at Ratcliff gradually declined, for sailing
out of the winding river was often a work oi
days, and sometimes of weeks, which could
be more pleasantly, or more hilariously,
-occupied ashore. For the same reason, the
Shipwrights' and the sawyers' centre of
governance was in Butcher Row, within
a bosun's call of Ratcliff Cross ; and their
neighbour the Watermen's Company allotted
the privileges and arbitrated the claims,
customs, and courses of the river -workers
below bridge ; and frequently recruited crews
not merely for the King's service but for the
nominally private adventurers oversea. And
liere also the Masters and Captains of the
Trinity Brotherhood watched, warded, and
dwelt when England's great day upon the
Inner and the Outer Seas was dawning.
Me.
BOUTELL' S PUNNING CATALOGUE
OF PAINTING AND SCULPTURE.
READEBS of ' N. & Q.' may be interested by
the following transcript from an autograph
by the late Rev. Chas. Boutell, which, as the
present owner of the MS. believes, has never
yet been in print. Mr. Boutell, author of
well-known books on heraldry and archae-
ology, was, at the time he produced this
jeu cTesprit, Rector of Norwood, Surrey.
Some of the jests seem really witty ; some
may be more intelligible to others than they
are to me. I presume all the painters'
names to be genuine. S.
A Catalogue of a small collection of rare and
singularly characteristic Paintings, with a
few works of the same class in Sculpture, all
of them by most eminent artists, ancient
and modern.
1. The Holy City in Sight .. Old Palma
: 2. The Siege of Troy . . . . Teniers
3. The Waggon on the Boad
Van Goen and Van Os.
4. The Flower Protected . . Salvator Rosa
5. The Rencontre . . . . . . Metzu
6. The Cat not let out of the Bag . . Poussin
: 7. The Monk Cloesterman
8. Glovers superseded
9. The Blush Rose . .
10. The Salute
11. The Mutual Promise
12. The Field of Battle
13. Cats Fighting
14. Tolling the Great Bell . .
15. The Fairest of the Flowers
16. Interior of a Carpenter's Shop (a
Cabinet picture)
17. The Successful Candidate
18. Caught at Last . .
19. The Slender Waist
20. Rolling Waves
21. At the Seaside . .
22. The Empty Manger
23. The Estate Purchased
24. Rabbits at Home
25. The Gathered Flowers .
26. The Day after the Alma
27. The Pride of the Forest
28. Fair in the Olden Time .
29. Highland Attendants
30. Sunset
31. The Decision, without
for a Verdict "
32. A Scene in Macbeth
88. The Stage-coach Catastrophe
34. Anchovy Nets
35. River Navigation Impeded
by A.
36. The Boaster Outdone
37. Innocent Flirtation
38. The Way to the Village
39. Sharp Set
40. Venice
41. The Notice to Quit
42. The Bird's Nest ..
43. David and Goliath
44. Sunday in Scotland
45. Pugilists
46. Dressing the Wound
47. The Bell-wether ..
48. Across the River
49. Vanity Fair
>0. The Impending Cry
51. Arctic Scenery
52. The Pathway Stopped . .
53. The Home made Happy. .
54. The Sly Glance . .
" She never told her love "
A Hard Row at Sea
57. The Pudding made Perfect
8. The Trout Taken
9. The Proposal
60. The Response
31. Blue Noses..
Ball- Room Scenes
.by Mytcns
Rubens
Lippo Lippi
by Both
. Waterloo
Claude
Kneller
Lely
Turner
Gainsborough
. by A. Constable
Girtin
Sandby
Beechey
Haydon
Morland
Warren
Faed
. . Redgrave
Oakley
Bartholomew
Gillies
,-. . . Westall
Waiting
Solomon
Duncan and Haag
Brokedon
Burgess
Harrison Weir
by Topham
by Cousins
by Lane
Hone
. . Waterton
by A. Tennant
Callow
. . Hurlstone
Kirke
Boxall
Linton
Tinkler
Ferrey
.. P. Cox
. . Whymper
Landseer
by A. Poole
.. by Shee
Smirke
Pvne
Mrs. Herring
by Egg
by Hooke and Rodwell
Asker
Clarke
Jack Frost
52. Ball- Room Scenes . Hoppner, Dance, Inskipp
and Stephanoff.
53. The Knight Armed . . • . by Lance
54. Travel in the Dark . . . . Knight
5. Sketch on the Caspian . . . . Eastlake
6. The Mountain Spring . . . . Gush
7. The Butt . . . . Cooper and Singleton
8. Full Cry Hunt
59. The Happy Family . . . . Goodall
0. The Two Letters Opie
1. An Exclamation at Whist . . Uwins
2. Preparations for Dinner . . . . by Cooke
3. On the Forth ' Frith
4. High and Dry Patten
174
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 S. V. JULY, 1919.
75. The Prompt Blunder . . . . Mulread}
76. The Gambler Ruined . . . . by Dyce
77. The Lesson Repeated . . . . by Harl
78. The Youthful Aspirant . . . . Cockerell
79. Caught Out .. by Copley Fielding
80. The Eavesdropper . . . . Martin
81. The Order of Release . . . . Grant
82. Incident in ' My Novel,' the Italian
Philosophizing . . . . Stocks
Sculpture.
1. The Distressed Milkmaid . . Can-ova
2. The Irish Weaver.. .. .. Flaxraan
3. The Cathedral Choir . . . . Chan trey
4. The Highlander Admonished MacDowell
5. The Model Footman . . John Thomas
6. Baby's Recompense . . . . Papworth
7. The Convalescent . . . . by Physick
8. A House to Let . . . . by Weeks
April 5, 1859.
CHARLES BOUTELL.
AUSTRALIAN
MEMORIAL INSCRIPTIONS :
IV. ST. JAMES'S CHURCH, SYDNEY.
(See 12 S. iii. 269, 330; iv. 184.)
THE following abstracts were made in
1895: —
1. James Given, Commander of the ship
Dunbar, died Aug. 20, 1857.
2. Robert AlhvooJ, B.A., Incumbent of
St. James's, 1840-84 ; died Oct. 27, 1891.
3. Wm. John Dumaresq, Capt. Royal Staff
Corps. Served in Crirrea, Canada, N.S.W. Died
Nov. 9, 1868.
4. Alexander Macleay, F.R.S. Died July 19.
1848.
5. Commodore Sir James Brisbane. Died
Dec. 19, 1826.
6. Lieut.-General Sir Maurice Charles O'Connell,
K.C.B., Lieut.-Governor of N.S.W. 1810 to 1814.
Died May 25, 1848.
7. Rt. Hon. Lady Mary Fitzroy, wife of Sir
Charles Augustus Fitzroy, Kt. Died Dec. 7, 1847.
8. (A shield-hatchment.) Rt. Hon. Sir Robt.
Wm. Dull, G.C.M.G., Governor of N.S.W. 1893-5.
Died March 15, 1895.
9. Dulce et decorum est pro scientia mori. |
This monument is erected | by the Colonists of
New South Wales | in memory of | John Gilbert |
Ornithologist | who was speared by the blacks on
the 29th of June | 1845, during the first overland
expedition to Port Essington by Ludwig Leich-
hardt and his intrepid companions.
10. In | Memoriam | lonnis Coleridge Patteson,
| primi Melanesia? Episcopi | et martyris. |
Vestigia Domini fideliter secutus | in gaudium
Domini intravit xx° die Sept. A.D. | MDCCCLXXI
Cum dilexisset suos usque ad finem dilexit eos.
11. Collet Barket, 39th Regt., murdered by the
aborigines April 30, 1831.
12. Others to various officers who fell in the
New Zealand WTar of 1845.
13. This tablet — erected by the Executive
Government pursuant to a vote of the Legislative
Council of New South Wales, in testimony of the
respect and gratitude of the inhabitants of the
Colony — commemorates the active service and
early death of Assistant-Surveyor Edmund Besley
Court Kennedy, who, after having completed the
survey of the River Victoria, was chosen by the
Government to conduct the first exploration of
York Peninsula, where, after the most patient
and persevering exertions to overcome the-
physical difficulties of the country and the
destructive effects of consequent disease, by which-
the expedition, originally consisting of thirteen
persons, was reduced to three. He was slain by
the aborigines in the vicinity of Escape River on
the 13th December, A.D. 1848, falling a sacrifice,-
in the 31st year of his age, to the cause of science,,
the advancement of the Colony, and the interests
of humanity. | Flebile Principium melior fortuna
sequatur.
The persons who perished by disease were —
Thomas Wall (naturalist), W. Costigan, C. Niblet,.
E. Carpenter, J. Mitchell, James Luft, J. Douglas,
E. Taylor, Denis Dunn. | requiescant in pace.
The survivors are — William Carron (botanist),.
William Goddard, and Jackey Jackey, an
aboriginal of Merton District, who was Mr.
Kennedy's sole companion in his conflict with the
savages, and, though himself wounded, tended his~
eader with a courage and devotion worthy of"
remembrance, supporting him in his last moments
and making his grave on the spot where he fell.-
14. To the memory of the Reverend Richard!
Hill, the first minister of this Church, who expired
suddenly, in the performance of his duty within its^
walls, on xxxth May, MDCCCXXXVI., aged LIV. |
Erected by his friends and congregation in
ftectionate remembrance of his unwearied labours-
luring seventeen years, his serene resignation
under no ordinary trials, his blameless and useful
ife, his prompt attention to every call of distress,,
is faithful and fearless reproof of the sinner, his
disregard of personal ease when any work of
;harity required his services, and his peculiar
ibility in engaging the attention and affection of"
.he young, and in imbuing them with a deep-
•everence for the word of everlasting salvation^-
Blessed are those servants whom the Lord, when.
cometh, shall find watching.
J. \V. FAWCETT.
Consett, co. Durham.
THE GREEK FLAG. — According to a
generally accepted idea, the Greek flag of
:>lue and white stripes, with a white cross-
on a blue canton, was first used in a modern
jense as the national or commercial ensign
D£ Greek-speaking people, when Bishop
Grermanos raised the standard of revolt
against Turkish rule on the festival of the
Annunciation (Mar. 25), 1821, at Patrasso
n the Morea. Since then generations of"
modern Greeks have been taught from
nfancy to repeat the following lines of a
Datriotic hymn from the ' Child of Inde-
pendence,' in John Adams's oration on the-
Jnited States, beginning : —
) Child of German os ! O banner beautiful !
Godchild of the Panayia, compassionate and?
merciful !
12 S. V. JULY, 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
175
Another suggested origin — not improbable
— is that it represents the traditional
•" colours " of the B.V.M. or Panayia ; this
idea seems consonant with the constantly
-expressed " Mariolatry " of the Greek
'Church, and may be paralleled with the
figure of the Panayia impressed on Byzantine
• coins.
It would be a matter of considerable
interest to discover what were the standards,
flags, or colours of the Byzantine Empire.
The flag which Richard I. hung up in the
church of Bury St. Edmunds as a trophy
from Cyprus was a work of embroidery and
probably resembled an ordinary feudal
'•banner.
A legend has it that Miaolis, the popular
hero of the Greek Revolution, asked to make
a flag, tore up his shirt (white) and breeches
(blue) and pieced them together for the
tmrpos'e. N
The national flag of the Greek Republic
(1821-33) was probably the blue flag with
a white cross, now the naval flag of the
modern Greek kingdom.
It is reasonable to suppose, in lieu of direct
evidence, that the blue and white striped
flory of the present Greek flag originates in
the Republican period, imitating the " star-
-spangled banner " of the greatest republic of
modern times, itself adapted from an old
English colonial flag (by Act of Congress,
1808).
Any ordinary history of the Byzantine
Empire refers to pestilent factions with their
party badges of " blue and white " and " red
and green " opposed to each other ; how
far these badges were retained in a subse-
quent age after the introduction of feudalism
and the consequent decay of the democratic
: spirit in the Eastern Empire is difficult to
discover ; the famous factions continued to
exist at the end of the seventh century, and
until the coming of the Arabs and the
general spread of Mohammedanism.
Turkish sultans reigning in Byzantium
have carried on the institutions and tradi-
tions of their Byzantine predecessors ; it is
not therefore inconceivable that in the
modern Greek and Turkish national emblems
may linger souvenirs from the early cen-
turies of Levantine history. The " blue and
white" and "red and green" which still
distinguish severally the Rumelian or
Romaic Greeks and the Anatolian Turko-
mans may be but one of those singular
coincidences which admit of very little
-explanation and may in fact be merely
accidental. The ill-defined origin of the
'Turkoman or Moslem natives of Asia Minor
allows of a supposition that they may have
been represented by the " reds and greens "
in an earlier age. G. J.> F.S.A.
Cyprus.
[We have also received a translation of a recently
published leaflet on 'The National Badge' (Flag),
circulated among Boy Scouts in Greece, which we
may subsequently find room for.]
LITERATURE AND ICONOGRAPHY OF
LONDON PEACE CELEBRATIONS. —It is of
some topical interest to note the wealth of
pamphlets and prints that the successive
Peace celebrations in London have provided.
The purpose of the earlier forms was to
describe and represent the public displays
of fireworks usually provided by the Board
of Ordnance. Most familiar in this class
is ' A Description of the Machine for the
Fireworks, &c., in which they are to be
exhibited in St. James's Park, Thursday,
April 27, 1749.' This, and the many con-
temporary engravings it occasioned, cele-
brated the General Peace signed at Aix-
la-Chapelle, Oct. 7, 1749.
These official firework displays were for at
least another hundred years the principal
feature of the celebrations. There was, for
example, a display of fireworks in Hyde,
Green and Victoria Parks on May 29, 1856.
The programme (4 pp. fcap.) provides, in
24 divisions, detail of an immense number
of rockets, &c. The late Mr. Eliot Hodg-
kin in his collections on fireworks (vide
' Rariora ' ) made a special quest of these
items and the frequently exchanged dupli -
cates.
Trafalgar, the Peninsula and Waterloo
came in the age of panoramas and showmen's
exhibitions. The Waterloo Museum at
97 Pall Mall was established in 1815, but
soon had rivals at the Egyptian Hall,
Piccadilly ; the Oplotheca, 20 Lower Brook
Street, Bond Street ; the Gothic Hall, Pall
Mall, and finally the Royal Armoury,
Haymarket. Except the display at 97 Pall
Mall they cannot, however, be identified as
" celebrating " exhibitions. Most remark-
able of its kind, and worthy of special
mention now as having hitherto escaped
notice, was " Mr. Michel's Exhibition of
Crocodiles " at 18 Dover Street, " intended
to commemorate the victory of Lord Nelson
near the mouth of the Nile, &c." The date
of the catalogue before me is 1800, and in
some 15 pages " this astounding creature "
is described at some length. There were
only ten exhibits, which it is necessary to
add were mostly models of crocodiles, " the
only specimen of this wonderful animal in
England, to the knowledge of the artist,
176
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. v. JULY, 1919.
which is nineteen feet in length, and to be
seen at the British Museum."
Research into the bibliography and icono-
graphy of this subject of Peace celebrations
leads into diversified channels ; except they
were not intended to be so identified, we
might have to include Madame Tussaud's, the
Benin Bronzes at the Ethnographical Gallery
of the British Museum, and the doyen of
Drury Lane Theatre, where many years ago
Sir Augustus Harris produced a spectacular
drama, ' The Armada.'
ALECK ABRAHAMS.
51 Rutland Park Mansions, N.W.2.
TANKS (MILITARY). — The following, which
gives the origin of the name "tank," may
well find a place in ' N. & Q.' : —
" STORY OP THE TANKS.
" General Swinton, the military originator of
the Tank scheme and the commander of the first
Tank unit, on Saturday presented to Berwick a
tank, the gift of the Army Council, in appreciation
of the borough's War Savings work. He said
that the tanks got their name from the belief
when they were being manufactured that they
were water-carriers for the troops in Egypt." —
The Times, June 24, p. 13, col. 4.
This does not, I think, imply that General
Swinton was the inventor of the machine
itself. ROBERT PIERPOINT.
[See also 12 S. iii. 444 ; v. 36.]
KNOX'S ' SPIRIT OF DESPOTISM.' — The
' D.N.B.' (vol. xxxi. p. 336) says of the
edition of Vicesimus Knox's work published
in London in the year 1795 : " Only three
copies were left in existence .... no trace,
however, of the three copies is now dis-
coverable." References to this book appear
in ' N. & Q.,' 5 S. xi. 43, 174 ; 6 S. vii. 407.
The Library of Harvard University has a
copy received in 1900 bearing the imprint
"London; printed in the year 1795,"
which bears every evidence of having for
some time been in possession of Boston
families. The Harvard Library at one
time possessed another copy which was
received " by exchange of duplicates " in
1869. This copy unfortunately disappeared
previous to 1900.
T. FRANKLIN CURRIER,
Assistant Librarian.
Harvard College Library, Cambridge, Mass.
SIR NICHOLAS BAGNAL AND THE EARLS
OF KILMOREY. — In the review of vol. iv. of
* Indexes to Irish Wills ' it is stated (ante,
p. Ill) that the Earls of Kilmorey are
descended from Sir Nicholas Bagnal.
This is, strictly speaking, not correct, as
the Earls of Kilmorey are descended from
Sir Robert Needham, 1st Viscount, elder-
son of Robert Needham of Cranage, whose
younger son Thomas Nedham of Pool Parkr
co. Denbigh, married the daughter and co-
heiress of Sir Henry Bagenal of Newry and
Plas Newydd, Marshal of Ireland.
The great -grands en of Thomas Nedham,.
Robert Nedham of St. Thomas-in-the-Vale
and St. Catherine, Jamaica, succeeded (as
coheir with Sir Edward Bayley, ancestor of
the Marquess of Anglesey) to the estates of
Nicholas Bagenal, grandson of Sir Henry
Bagenal.
The grandson of this Robert Nedham
was William Nedham of Newry and Moone-
Park, who d.s.p. 1806, leaving the estates to-
Robert, llth Viscount Kilmorey, thus dis-
inheriting his father's brother, viz., Major-
General William Nedham of Mount Olive,,
Jamaica, and Widcombe, near Bath, M.P.
for Athenry in the last Irish Parliament.
The Major -General's grandson is Capt.
Charles Sewell Nedham, R.N. (retired) of
Branksome Chine, Bournemouth, who is
head of that branch of the Nedham family
descended from Thomas Nedham of Pool'
Park, and, in the female line, from Sir
Henry Bagenal.
H. R. POPHAM BAKER,
M.R.C.S., L.R.C.P.
77 Accrington Road, Blackburn, Lanes.
BOSWELL'S ' JOHNSON ' : A CORRECTION. —
Boswell, in his ' Life of Johnson,' under date
1730 (Hill's ed., vol. i. p. 77), says :—
"We are told by Tursellinus, in his life of
St. Ignatius Loyola, that this intrepid founder of
the Order of the Jesuits, when he arrived at Goa,
persisted in wearing his miserable shattered
shoes," &c.
Not one, I think, of the innumerable-
editors and commentators of Boswell, has*-
ever noticed that this is a mistake. St~.
Ignatius never visited India, and both the-
anecdote and the biographer Tursellinus
pertain to the other great Jesuit, St. Francis*
Xavier. F. R. BRACEY.
St. Dominic's Priory, London.
" NON -NATURALS." — The earliest quota-
tion in the ' N.E.LV for " non- natural "
as a substantive is from my remote-
relative Dr. Jeremiah Wainewright in 1708 ;,
but Burton, in his ' Anatomy of Melan-
choly,' first printed in 1621, in his ' Synopsis,
of the First Partition ' speaks of " Necessary
causes, as those six non-natural things,,
which are : Diet .... Retention and evacua-
tion Air Exercise Sleep and wak-
ing.... Passions and perturbations of the:
mind." JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.
12 S. V. JULY, 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
177
"SKIFFLE -SHUFFLE." — This word is classed
«is rare in the ' N.E.D.,' and no earlier use
of it is quoted than 1871. It appears in the
speech made in the House of Commons by
Mr. George Grenville on the disturbances in
America, Jan. 26, 1769 : "Do not let us
stand shime-shuffle between two measures "
<' Debates, 1768-1770,' Sir H. Cavendish,
p. 203). Here it evidently implies hesitation,
.so may be only a playful or a cant enlarge-
ment of " shuffling " ; but possibly it is an
-expression that was used in some game such
-as shovel -board. ALFRED WELBY.
Carlton Club.
PROVERB : " LET THE WEAKEST GO TO
THE WALL." — The following may be worth
noting from ' Rambles round Edge Hill,'
;by the Rev. George Miller, 1896 : —
" Shotteswell Church, Warwickshire. On the
north and west sides of the north aisle the old
stone seats against the wall of the church remain .
In those days there were no seats in the midst of
'the church, and the congregation stood or knelt .
When the clergyman commenced his sermon he
'Used to say ' Let the weakest go to the wall ' ;
hence the proverb now so strangely perverted
.from its original meaning."
W. B. H.
DEFOE AND ALEXANDER SELKIRK. — The
* D.N.B.' in the article on Selkirk states
•that, " despite some apocryphal stories,
there is nothing to show that Defoe knew
anything of Selkirk beyond what had been
published by Rogers, Cooke, and Steele."
"The following documents in an extra-
illustrated copy of Robinson's ' History of
Stoke Newington ' (1820), belonging to Mr.
Aleck Abraham, seem to throw some doubt
•on the above statement : —
Portland House.
Thursday Evg.
My Dear Mr. Lunell,
My dear Wife has copied the mem. about De
&oe for you, & I now send it.
I trust Mrs. Lunell & yourself were not knocked
tip with our long " palaver " Tuesday !
Ever Sincerely,
RICHARD BALL.
(Memo, after a conversation with Mr. W. P.
Lunell, May, 1834, E. A.)
Joseph Beck (the Father of Joseph, the hus-
band of the well-known Mary Beck) built the
'house at Frenchay. The wife of the elder
Joseph Beck survived him ; she had three hus-
bands, Jos. Beck, Caysgarne, and lastly
Daniells, and survived them all. This Mrs.
Danielle lived at a corner house in James's
: Square, Bristol (the corner diagonally opposite
the entrance from the Barton) ; there she was
visited by Alexander Selkirk, then recently
returned from his solitary abode in the Island of
Juan Fernandez ; there also she was accustomed
t to entertain Daniel De Foe. It was in her house i
that Selkirk gave De Foe an account of his
adventures, &c., from which De Foe drew up a
narrative of Selkirk which was published. Many
years later, De Foe wrote and published his
romance of ' Robinson Crusoe,' the notion of
which was suggested by Selkirk's narrative.
The romance speedily supplanted the genuine
work, and while the existence of the latter is
now hardly known, the former is still among the
most popular of books.
A gentleman (name forgotten) who was accus-
tomed to meet Selkirk at Mrs. Daniells's sent a
paper to The Gentleman's Magazine containing a
very specific account of what he heard from him.
In addition to Cowper's well-known poem,
there is another entitled * Jwan Fernandez,'
by Patrick Branwell Bronte, the MS. of
which was offered for sale by a London
firm in 1914. J. ARDAGH.
35 Church Avenue, Drumcondra, Dublin.
MONUMENTS IN SYDNEY. — Monuments to
the following are found in Sydney, New
South Wales.
1. Life-size statue on square base in
Wynyard Park : —
John Dunmore Lang, D.D.
Patriot and Statesman.
Born 1799 at
Greenock, Scotland.
Died 1878 at
Sydney.
2. Life-size statue on base facing Queen
Square : —
The Right Honourable
William Bede Dalley, P.C.,
Scholar, Statesman,
Patriot.
3. Life-size statue on base : —
Captain Cook
Born at Marton, Yorkshire, 1728.
Discovered this Territory, 1770.
Killed at Owhyhee, 1779.
J. W. FAWCETT.
Consett, co. Durham.
HEREDITY : LONG HAIR. — Dean Stanley
considered that Richard II.' s eyes had been
transmitted to members of Queen Victoria's
family ; the tresses of the heroine of Coven-
try would seem to have had a yet longer
passage through the centuries. A lady who
claims to be a descendant of Leofric of
Mercia and the famous Godiva, writes thus
in The Guardian of May 15, 1919 : —
" Unusually long and abundant hair still prevail?
in our family. In youth, my mother's hair reached
her ankles, and she had scarcely a grey hair when
she died at the age of eighty-three. The hair of
one of my aunts measured 6 ft., and trailed several
inches on the ground behind her. Four of my
sisters and myself, when young women, had hair
which fell well below our knees, shrouding us like
thick mantles ; and now that I am in my seventieth
year my hair is as long and almost as abundant as
ever, and absolutely refuses to turn grey. Two or
178
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 S.V.JULY, 1919.
three of my first cousins had tine heads of hair also
The wealth of hair has descended to some of my
nieces, and to at least one of my grand-nieces. So
much for heredity for four generations at any rate
if not from our ancestress Lady Godiva."
ST. SWITHIN.
EAST ANGLIAN CHARACTERS AND CHARAC-
TERISTICS.— In an old eighteenth-century
commonplace book occur the following
manuscript rimes, signed " R. S.," and
dated 1785. They appear worth preserva-
tion in the archives of ' N. & Q.' if only for
their humour and shrewd observation. At
so lengthy an interval it is not easy to
identify all the persons named.
You I love, my dearest life.
More than gracious George his wife,
(King George HI.)
More than Harbord loves grimace,
(Sir H. Harbord)
More than Bacon loves a place,
(Sir Francis Bacon ?)
More than Billy Leigh the Church,
More than Parr to handle birch,
(Dr. Parr, bibliophile, and Rector of Asterby,
Lines, and afterwards Vicar of Hatton, near
Stratford-on-Avon)
More than Cutting loves a Welchman,
More than Jaggard loves a Frenchman,
(Rev. John Jaggard, Rector of St. Nicholas',
King's Lynn)
More than Wade does love to game, (Capt. Wade)
More than Twist a married dame.
More than Addey loves to smile,
More than Money to beguile, (Major John Money)
More than Parson Brand a trope,
More than Burcham hates the Pope,
More than Chamber loves a rout,
Or the Baron loves to spout,
(Baron Robert Harvey)
More than Hardingham a flower,
More than Gay the midnight hour,
More than Lloyd his handsome self,
(Dean Lloyd of Norwich)
More than Houghton loves his pelf,
More than Adkins loves his wife,
More than Bacon noise and strife, (Sir F. Bacon ?)
More than Payne a drinking bout, (Capt. Payne)
More than Dewing hates the gout,
More than Billy Crown a tussle,
More than Kerrison a bustle,
More than Walker loves his muse,
(Rev. Walker)
More than Garland loves his views,
More than Parr a Greek discourse, (Dr. Parr)
More than Beevor loves his house, (James Beevor)
More than Harvey loves his gold,
(Robert Harvey, sen.)
" TAMASHA." — The Morning Post of
April 29 contained the following : —
44 Cherbourg, April 27.
"The Navy's first joy ride for five years is almost
over. To-morrow the Second Battle Squadron
will leave Cherbourg with regret. As a young
officer put it this afternoon : 4 What a tamasha r
Now 'tamasha' is a word of the Navy's own
lingua franca, that tongue which seafaring has built
up from the slang of many ports. Philologists may
tell you learnedly of the derivation of 'tamasha'
and its different meanings in the Pushtu, Korean,
or Thibetan tongue, but when the Navy says =
'tamasha' it just means a jollification of first-class
dimensions."
J. R. H.
More than Hooke does hate a scold, (Dr. Hooke)
More than Beevor loves his book, (James Beevor)
More than Prince of tarts to cook,
(Benjamin Day)
Thus, my fair, I love you more
Than ever man loved *rnaid before.
Aug., 1785. B. g.
WM. JAGGARD, Captain.
Repatriation Records, Winchester.
djmrhs.
WE must request correspondents desiring in-
'ormation on family matters of only private interest
x> affix their names and addresses to their queries,,
n order that answers may be sent to them direct.
PROCLAMATION STONES. — At Totnes is-
Brutus Stone, on which the mayor standa to
proclaim a new sovereign. London Stone-
appears from Shakespeare (' 2 Henry VI.,'
v.6), following Holinshed, to have conferred'
special sanction on a new ruler. On the-
oronation Stone the new sovereign receives:
lis crown. At St. Austell is the Maengaw
Stone, where proclamations of peace and
war and new reigns used to be made. If
Kingston-on-Thames takes its name from the
Stone of the King and not from his -ton or
town, a new origin and meaning for, at any
rate, some of the many Kingston place-
names suggests itself.
Can local archaeologists give us full details
of the history, tradition, position, &c., of
any other similar stone conferring like
sanctions ? For, from a comparison of all
the instances with their varying detail, there
may emerge one or more characteristics
which, being common to all, may show the
original essential underlying idea. For
instance, Totnes and the Coronation Stone
agree in pointing to association with
foreigners, Jacob and Brutus ; while London;
Stone has been assigned to Romans1. Or,
again, Totnes and St. Austell are used only
for such proclamations as were national,
international, or intertribal : peace, war, and"
new rulers ; so perhaps, too, Kingston.
Queries that suggest themselves, among
others, are : —
1. Can they be connected with the de-
tached standing stones often found outside-
stone circles, as at Stonehenge, the Stennis
Stones, the Hurlers, the Rollright Stones,,
and many other stone circles ? Presuming,.
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for instance, that a given stone circle was
sepulchral, might its outlier mark the spot
outside the dead chief's tomb where his
style and title were recited, and, naturally,
his successor's claims made ?
2. Is there derivative connexion in idea
with a stone altar outside a Roman camp
pra3torium, or forum, by appeal to which the
promulgator called the gods to witness his
act and deed ? So perhaps Joshua (xxiv. 27).
3. If some or all of the stones show an
underlying tradition of foreign origin, could
they be supposed to have been brought as a
part of the newcomer's original land or
homestead ?
But before any theories can be formed the
fullest details of all the traditions of all such
stones should be known. Will archaeologists
in the respective localities oblige me with
the full particulars of the above-mentioned
and any other such stones and customs ?
It may be found also that customary places
or spots for proclamations may have derived
their positions from stones now non-existent.
(Rev.) F. G. ODELL, R.N.
Totnes.
WILLIAM HOORDE, WINCHESTER SCHOLAR.
— He entered Winchester College, aged 12,
in 1555, from the Soke of Winchester, and is
probably to be identified with the recusant
of this name, described as " of Wolvesey,"
who was committed to the Wood Street
Counter in London, July 27, 1586, and with
the recusant gentleman of the same name
of Preston Candover, who occurs in the first
Recusant Roll (of 1592-3) as owning various
properties in Hampshire (see Cath. Rec.
Soc. Publ. xviii. 273, 277, 290). Any
further particulars about him would be
welcome. JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.
BYRON'S ' DON JUAN,' CANTOS 17 AND 18.
— Can any of your readers tell anything
about cantos 17 and 18 of ' Don Juan ' ?
I have a copy in paper binding printed for
the booksellers by Duncombe of Little
Queen Street, Holborn — without date —
but my father wrote his name and 1825
on the title-page. It was tied up with four
parts also belonging to him and in paper
binding, published at one shilling each by
John Hunt of Old Bond Street, containing
cantos 6 to 16 of ' Don Juan,' the earlier
ones dated 1823, and cantos 15 and 16, 1824.
Byron's name does not appear on either
the booklets by Hunt or that by Dun-
combe : I suppose it was on canto 1, but
that is lost. The quotation from ' Twelfth
Night ' as to cakes and ale is on both Hunt's
and Duncombe's copies. Hunt's are better
got up and on much better paper than
Duneombe's.
Byron seems to have patronized several
publishers. I have a set of his poems in
six vols. duodecimo, uniformly bound in
morocco — the first four by Murray, dated
1829, and vols. 5 and 6, which contain ' Don
Juan,' dated 1828, published by J. F.
Dove, St. John's Square, London. To show
that cantos 17 and 18 resemble Byron a
good deal, I append a copy of verse xci.
canto 18 : —
All in their turn have sipped of pleasure's draught,
Some drink its dregs, while others madly
waste it —
I, in my time, the cup have deeply quaffed,
Though once 'twas dashed before I well could
taste it —
Since then, though, I have drank, and sung, and
laughed —
Perhaps I've loved — however, I ve replaced it ;
I care not how 'twas done — the why or wherefore,
'Twill bring the grave— the all that now I care
J. T. ANDREWS.
HARVARD UNIVERSITY : THOMAS SHEPARD.
—Will any readers of ' N. & Q.' kindly add
to or correct the following details in the life
of Thomas Shepard, one of the founders
of Harvard University, U.S.A. ?
Thomas Shepard was born in the year
1604, and somewhere about 1631 acted as
chaplain to Sir Richard Darley, Kt., of
Aldby Park, Buttercrambe, in the parish
of Bossall, in the North Riding of York-
shire. He refused to subscribe to the
XXXIX. Articles, and was consequently
" silenced " by Archbishop Neile. There is
an entry in the Register of the parish as
follows : " 1632. Mr. Thomas Shepard and
Mrs. Margarit Tutvile were married the
23 of July." " Tutvile " is evidently a
corruption of Estuteville, a family of
Norman origin, owners of the manor of
Scrayingham in the East Riding, which in
those days included Bossall and Butter-
crambe, on the west side of the river Derwent.
Mistress Margaret was a relative of Mr.
Shepard' s patron, Sir Richard Darley ; and
after their marriage they emigrated amongst
the Pilgrim Fathers to New England,
landing at Boston on October 3, 1635.
Mrs. Shepard died in the following year,
and Mr. Shepard married again on two
subsequent occasions, dying at Boston,
August 25, 1649. He was a man of vision
and forceful character, and in 1636 took a
leading part in founding the College which
is now known as Harvard University.
WILLMORE HOOPER.
Bossall Vicarage, York.
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"• AS JOLLY AS SANDBOYS." Has this
not very recondite simile been investigated ?
For my own part I did not know what
" sandboys " were until I read the following
passage in the ' Letters of Dr. John Brown ' :
" The long strings of donkeys carrying neat
little bags of white sand of the 'size and shape of
Bologna sausages (these are brought from
Brompton and are used for sanding the floors),
winding through the narrow streets, with two or
three boys in their pure white or yellow frocks,
are very pretty."
This is in a letter written from Chatham in
1831. Is the industry quite of the past ?
JOHN WILLCOCK.
Lerwick.
DURBOW CASTLE, near Tullamore, King's
County, was erected by Hugh de Lacy on
the site of a famous monastery, which was
given to the Herberts, and later passed into
Lord Norbury's family. Any information
will be appreciated. E. C. FINLAY.
1G34 Hyde Street, San Francisco, California.
Miss HELEN MARIA WILLIAMS.— Infor-
mation as to parentage and characteristics
of this remarkable lady who enthusiastically
espoused the French Revolution is de-
siderated. ANETJRIN WILLIAMS.
Menai View, North Road, Carnarvon.
MORBTJS ANGLICUS.— What was this dis-
ease in the fifteenth century ? Was it, or
was it not, the sweating sickness ? On a
brass on a stone in St. Laurence Church,
Hatfield, Yorks, is the following : —
Qui in cruoem moritur
Peccatis Thomse misereatur
Stones, gen. qui multis
Passus est serumneis.
Qui per morburn Anglicum
Mortuus eat demum
Die pro anima Ave Maria et Pater Noster
Decessit M.CCCC.II. Septemb.
In the next century and later the disease of
that name was the consumption ; and, Dr.
Gideon Harvey published a work called
' Morbus Anglicus, or, an Anatomy of Con-
sumption,' in 1671. J. W. FAWCETT.
Consett, co. Durham.
GENERAL JOHN NICHOLSON. — The pedigree
of the celebrated John Nicholson is wanted.
(Mrs.) E. E. COPE.
Finchampstead, Berks.
SIR THOMAS COLBY. — I shall be glad of
any information enabling me to trace the
relationship between Sir Thomas Colby,
Bart., who died Sept. 23, 1729, and the
Thomas Colby mentioned in his will as his
kinsman. CHARLES CLAY.
11 Tite Street, Chelsea.
HERALDIC : WOOLMER, LIPHOOK, HANTS.
— Can any one tell me whose is this coat of
arms ? 1st grand quarter : 1st and 4th,
paly of six or and gules, 2nd and 3rd, 01*,
two bulls gules ; 3rd quarter : a saltire
gules within a bordure of fleur de lys ;
4th : or, 3 bends gules ; 5th : az. 3 lions
passant guardant or ; 6th : vair, az. and
arg., a chief gules. Impaling : 1st grand
quarter : 1st and 4th, France, 2nd and 3rd,
gules ; 2nd grand quarter : 1st and 4th,
arg., a dragon rampant gules ; 2nd and 3rd,
gules, a lion rampant ; 3rd : gules, a chevron
or between 2 stars arg. ; 4th : az., a bend or
between 3 stars arg. ; 5th : az., semee of
fleur de lis or, a bendlet gules ; 6th : or,
a cross az. between 4 stars. Over all on a
shield of pretence, az., a bar or, and in fesse
a circle or.
The achievement is surrounded by the
collar and badge of the French order of St.
Michael, and underneath the latter is the
eight-pointed cross badge with the dove on
it of the French order of the St. Esprit,
and the date 1647. Surmounting the coat
of arms is a Marquis (?) coronet, and at each
side of the latter smaller coronets round a
large initial H.
The whole device is on a window in
Woolmer House, Bramshott, Hants, for-
merly the residence of Sir Archibald
Macdonald, Bart.
(Miss) A. F. MACONCHY.
Fowley, Liphook, Hants.
BOWSHOT : THE LONGEST. — The Daily
Mail of June 24, 1913, says : —
" Mr. Ingo Simon, a member of the Royal Toxo-
philite Society, shot an arrow 459 yards 8 in. on
Friday at the annual archery meeting at Le
Touquet, France. His next best shot was 2 yards
shorter. This distance was measured by a quali-
fied surveyor. Mr. Simon used two Turkish bows,
made of buffalo horn and antelope sinew, pulling
80 Ib. and 60 Ib. Both bows were over 200 years
old. The longest distance with a yew bow was
236 yards 7ft. [>'c]."
The newspaper states that this was the
longest bow-and-arrow shot since 1794.
Where and on what occasion was the shot
made in 1794, and what was the make and
style of bow ? Is there any record of a
longer shot previously ?
HERBERT SOTJTHAM.
i
JEREMIAH WAINEWRIGHT. — Can any one
tell me where I can find the will of Jeremiah
Wainewright or Wainwright, postmaster at
Ferrybridge, Yorkshire, who died Dec. 1,
and was buried Dec. 4, 1696, at Ferrybridge ?
JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.
Union Club, Trafalgar Square, S.W.I.
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FISH-YARD. — Can, any of your readers
kindly inform me, or give me references, as
to the meaning of " fish-yard," as found so
often in the ' Records of the Honour of
Halton ' ? A typical quotation is as
follows : " On Mar. 30, 1672, a tenant at
Thelwall was fined for the old offence of
making his fish -yard in the midstream of the
Mersey." G. A. DUNLOP.
Warrington Museum.
FENNER FAMILY. — The Sussex Record
Society's vol. iii. contains on p. 41 the
following : —
" John Fenner of Amberley, Esq., died 25 Dec.,
9th Elizabeth. Son and heir Dudley Fenner age
6 (?). Inq. at Steyninge 26 Sept., 9th Elizabeth."
The ' D.N.B.' has an article on the
Nonconformist Mr. Dudley Fenner (1558?-
1587), who is stated to have been born in
Kent, " heire of great possessions," who was
at Cranbrook in 1575-6 and again in 1583,
ultimately retiring to Holland, where he
died in 1587. Did the latter Dudley enter
either of the Universities ? If so, is his
parentage recorded ? R. J. FYNMORE.
Sandgate.
BOULOGNE : REGISTERS AND EPITAPHS,
&c. — I have a note that the records of
English births, marriages, and deaths at
Boulogne-sur-Mer were transcribed by one
Col. Tinley — query when ? And where are
they printed ? My note also says that some
notice of these epitaphs in the Protestant
Cemetery at Boulogne appeared in The
British Architect in 1913. Is there any other
work on these matters ? J. W. F.
THE MILLION BANK. — In the 'D.N.B.'
and elsewhere are mentions of Nathaniel
Neal (the son of Daniel Neal, divine and
historian, 1678-1743, and nephew of
Nathaniel Lardner, Nonconformist author,
1683-1768) describing him as " an eminent
attorney and secretary to the Million Bank."
What was the institution thus named ?
W. B. H.
BLACKMAN AND SAMPSON FAMILIES OF
SUSSEX. — I should be obliged for any
particulars concerning the ancestry of John
Blackman of Hooe, Sussex (will dated
June 7, 1789, proved at Lewes, Jan. 27,
1798), also of his wife, who was a daughter
of Richard Sampson of Ninfield, Sussex.
I have been unable to obtain a copy of
' Pedigree of Blackman of East Sussex,' by
Mrs. Stephen Batson, 1901, broadside,
which may contain some of the information
I require. H. E. RUDKIN, Maj or.
21 Vanbrugh Park, Blackheath, 8.E.3. I
" THUNDER." — Indian servants are said to
give the name " thunder -box " to a night-
stool. This is thought merely amusing.
But I find an evil odour, or rather the
mental effect of it, called " thunder " by
George Herbert (b. 1593). I quote from his
poem ' Content ' : —
The brags of life are but a nine days' wonder,
And after death the fumes that spring
From private bodies make as big a thunder
As those which rise from a huge king.
The ' N.E.D.' does not seem to elucidate
the usage. What I wish to know is : was it
carried to India by English pioneers, or is
its present existence a coincidence due to
native ingenuity ? J. K.
South Africa.
BRESLAU. — On looking through some un-
published minutes of the Church of Scotland
Presbytery of Shetland, I found that in
the middle of the eighteenth century
collections were made in the parish churches
of Shetland for the churches in Breslau.
Could any of your correspondents explain
what it was in the circumstances of the
time that called for this exercise of Christian
charity ? JOHN WILLCOCK.
Lerwick.
THAMES TUNNELS : BIBLIOGRAPHY. — In
making some research into the biblio-
graphy of the several Thames tunnels, both
Brunei's achievement and its predecessors,
I have met with some perplexing identifica-
tions.
R. Dodd's proposal for the Gravesend-
Tilbury " dry tunnel or passage " is familiar
to me in his pamphlet ' Reports with Plans,
Sections, &c.,' 1798, and the opposing
critical " Observations on the Intended
Tunnel,' &c., by Charles Clarke, F.S.A.,
1799; but I believe Dodd's scheme was
attempted so far as sinking a shaft on the
Kent shore and then stopped owing to
flooding from land springs. I am informed
by a friend that he has seen pamphlets and
lampoons on this failure of the project.
Can any reader confirm this with a few
bibliographical detail ?
On the Rotherhithe Driftway of 1809
I have failed to trace a single pamphlet or
publication, yet it was actually constructed
for over 1,000 feet or within 130 feet of the
opposite shore. Did this undertaking and
its partial success pass unnoticed and un-
sung, except for the contemporary press ?
Apparently, M. J. Brunei's first pam-
phlet was issued in 1824. The copy in my
collection came from Sir William Tite's
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library, who has added the date and a note :
" This is the original prospectus of Brunei
and it will be seen that the estimated cost
is left blank." This consists of 4 pp., 8vo,
with a large folding plan reprinted or added
from The Philosophical Magazine, vol. Ixii.
part 2. I infer there was originally a
wrapper to provide a title-page, apparently
now missing, but I seek comparison with
other copies or information that will
correct or confirm Tite's note.
ALECK ABRAHAMS.
51 Rutland Park Mansions, N.W.2.
Miss SARAH FIELDING : YEW COTTAGE. —
Local histories and guides tell that Ralph
Allen of Prior Park allowed Miss Sarah
Fielding a free cottage, known as Yew
Cottage, Church Lane, Widcombe, being
just outside Prior Park. What authority
is there for this ? M. N. L.
" BOCHE " : " SNOB." — Are the following
possible etymologies ? —
Boche : M. Masson in ' The Early Chroni-
clers of Europe: France,' c. 11, quotes:
" On m'apele bochu [Picard for bossu], mais
je ne le suis mie." — From Adam de la Halle,
circa 1280.
Snob : " Una conversazione inarmonica
e snobilitante " (Silvio Pellico, * Le mie
prigione,' c. 40, 1833;. H. C— N.
MANOR RECORDS. — Where can I find
records of manors ; also information as to
what manors exist in a parish ? Would the
lord of the manor keep them, and if the
lordship is vested in the Crown, who would
have them ? M.D., E.E.F.
GARRETT, PORTUGUESE POET. — All
visitors to Lisbon know the Rua Garrett,
which is named after the most famous
nineteenth -century poet of Portugal, Joao
Baptista da Silva Leitao de Almeida Garrett,
who was born in 1799 at 39 Rua do Calvario,
Oporto, and was buried at Belem, in 1854,
in the church of the Con vent o dos Jeronymos
de Belem. His surname would seem to
connote Irish or British origin. Is any-
thing known about his Irish or British
ancestors ? JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.
" ABDOLLA." — A familiar Morning Post
reviewer, in the issue of April 10, speaking
of ' The Years Between * said : " Mr. Kipling
would have nothing of ' abdolla cloak of
sweated verbiage, this squeamishness at
the sight of truth.' " What was meant by
the word " abdolla " ?
ANEURIN WILLIAMS.
Menai View, North Boad, Carnarvon.
CHARLES I. : HIS JOURNEY FROM OXFORD
TO SOUTHWELL. — I am anxious to discover,
if possible, the exact route taken by King
Charles I. in his journey from Oxford to
Southwell, April 27 to May 5, 1646. I have
consulted Peck's * Desiderata Curiosa ' and
Rulshworth's * Historical Collections,' but
they leave the matter in doubt.
(Rev.) R. PARK.
Highnam Vicarage, Gloucester.
BERKSHIRE INSCRIPTIONS ON TOMB-
STONES.— I am making a collection from
tombstones for genealogical purposes, and
shall be glad of inscriptions from church-
yards in Berkshire. Please reply direct.
(Mrs.) E. E. COPE.
Finch ampstead Place, Berks.
NORFOLK MANUSCRIPTS. — On July 31,
1888, Messrs. Christie, Manson & Woods
sold by auction several collections of Norfolk
manuscripts, viz. : Frere's, Norris's, and
Fenn's. Lot No. 10 in the sale catalogue
was : —
" Norris. Collection of the Pedigrees of Norfolk
Families, digested in Alphabetical Order, and
compiled from Public Evidences, Wills. Records,
Title Deeds, and Monuments ; with Index, 2 vols,
folio, and Index 8vo, half-bound calf."
I am anxious to trace this item to its present
owner, and should be very grateful for any
assistance. Mr. Quaritch" bought it at the
sale for 10Z., and sold it again later, but there
's no record of the purchaser's name.
CHAS. A. BERNAU.
20 Charleville Road, N.14.
BARNARD OR BERNARD. — Thomas Barnard,
D.D., Vicar of Pirton 1548-82, was (vide
Visitations of Oxfordshire ') descended
rom the Barnards of Enderby (Ainderby),
co. York. What relation was he, if any, to
he Barnard of Fountains, co. York, who
carried a daughter of Sir Richard Acton
(vide 'Visitations of Essex')? Are there
any records or books wheie this information
might be obtained ?
" Francis Barnard of Margatyne [Mar-
garetting] in com. Essex, esquire, sonne and
heir, gentleman, Porter of ye Tower, where
he lyeth buryed with hatchments, 6 April,
1612." Was he related to Edwardus Bar-
nard, who on May 20, 1630, was granted the
office of Janitor Superior in the Tower of
London during his life (vide Rymer's
' Fcedera,' t. viii. part iii. p. 164) ? Where
can any information be found about these
officers of the Tower of London ?
H. C. BARNARD.
The Warren, Burnham, Somerset.
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DEVONIAN PRIESTS EXECUTED IN 1548-9.
(See ante, p. 131.) — Can any of your corre-
spondents give ome information con-
cerning a Devon and Somerset priest, who
after a most adventurous life, including such
events as an escape from the Tower and
torture on the rack, is believed to have been
executed ? — a point I should be glad to
olear up. I should be still more glad if I
could learn with certainty his parentage.
I refer to a George Stocker, who for many
years lived in exile with the Earl of West-
morland, took active part in the Babbington
conspiracy, and was imprisoned in the Tower
and Newgate. There is strong evidence that
he was a member of the Somerset family
(itself an offshoot from the Bedfordshire one),
and was probably related to Dom Augustine
Stocker of Downside and Glastonbury.
CHARLES J. STOCKER.
The White Horse, Brundall, Norfolk.
SOCIETY FOR PRESERVING THE MEMORIALS
OF THE DEAD. — A society with this name
was founded at Norwich in or about 1883.
Is it still in existence, and what are its
objects ? Has it published any works, and,
if so, what are they ? J. W. F.
FUND FOR PRESERVING MEMORIALS OF
rHE DEAD IN IRELAND. — I have a report of
this Fund for 1888 or 1889 (date wanting).
Can any one say when the Fund was started,
and if it is still in existence ? What
reports, &c., has it issued ? J. W. F.
ETCHINGS BY T. PARKER, 1838. — Mr.
Parker's print-shop in Panton Street will be
a, pleasant memory to many readers. He
survived to a patriarchal age, but I cannot
team anything of the history of the business
}ther than it had migrated from Wardour
Street (then Princes Street). It was possibly
:iis father who etched in 1838 some small
elates (3| in. by 2 in.) of views near London.
Fhe specimen before me shows two horsemen
ind a toll-keeper at the entrance to a rising,
:ree-arched road. A milestone inscribed
' X miles to London " possibly helps the
attribution of the scene being the toll-gate
iear the Bull and Bush, Hampstead Heath.
\ further pencil note identifies the print as
' Etched by T. Parker, printseller, Princes
Street, 1838." The late Mr. Fawcett years
igo advised me of these etchings, saying
here were six in the set and very few im-
>re&sions, but this is the only example I have
net with. I should be glad of any informa-
tion about these etchings.
ALECK ABRAHAMS.
51 Rutland Park Mansions, N.W.2.
AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED. — Can any
reader supply the whole (with authors and sources)
of the following poems? —
1. Grandmother's garden was edged with box,
And quaint were the flowers that grew :
Foxglove and fennel and ladylocks,
Marjoram, mint and rue.
Fragrant it was with mullen pink,
And lilies of white and gold ;
Never was sweeter a spot I think—
Grandmother's garden old.
2. In a small New England garden,
Midst the larkspur and the box,
Where the gold-glow is blooming
With the brilliant hollyhocks,
Stands a little sad-eyed mother.
W. M. DODSON.
63 North wick Road, Evesham.
3. Could any one kindly tell me who wrote a
ballad which begins as follows ? —
Now praise to the Lord Almighty : there is no
God but One.
Mahomet is his prophet and his will shall ever be
done.
I rather think it was written in India.
PHILIP WITTAM.
WThitmoor House, Sutton Park, near Guildford.
4. Can any reader inform me who wrote the
following lines, and give any references? —
He was better than all my doubts and fears ;
He made a bridge of my broken hopes
And a rainbow of my tears.
GIFFORD H. JOHNSON.
Feltham, 97 Park Lane, Croydon.
KENT FAMILY OF WINCHESTER AND
READING.
(12 S. iv. 187, 274; v. 52, 106.)
MAY I be allowed to add a few supplementary
notes to the article which appeared at the
penultimate reference ?
WINCHESTER.
Robert Kent, Proctor for Winchester
College in the Court of Arches, 1450—1.
It was suggested that he was probably
dentical with Robert the brother of Master
Thomas Kent. I am informed that Robert
bhe brother was a Bachelor of Laws. His
will, in which he is described as of Hede-
corn, Kent, occurs in the Calendar of
Lambeth Wills for 1486 (109 Warham).
The two brothers founded a chantry at
Headcorn temp. Edward IV., the objects o
the foundation being (a) for the souls of
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their own families and (b) for the souls'- of
those killed in the battles of Northampton,
Mortimer's Cross, St. Albans, Wakefield
and Sherborne, special mention being made
of the Duke of York, the Earl of Rutland,
and the Earl of Salisbury. The original
Chantry Book, a Latin MS. of 13 folios,
dated 1483, is in the possession of E.
Williams, Esq., who has kindly supplied the
particulars above stated. Master Thomas
Kent, Doctor of Laws, was buried in the
Church of St. James Garlickhithe, London,
near to his former wife Isabella. His
second wife Joan, daughter of Sampson
and Joan Haynes, and widow of Thomas
Dounton, was subsequently buried there.
Her will, dated July 12, 2 Hen. VII., 1486,
was proved Nov. 3, 1492 (P.C.C. 15 Doggett).
See Hasted's 'Kent,' by H. H. Drake,
part i. p. 48. The signature of the said
Thomas Kent is preserved in Brit. Mus.
Cott. MS. Galba B.I, 151 (' D.N.B.').
James Kent, musician. His wife Eliza-
beth, dan. of John Freeman, died Dec. 10,
1736. Grove's ' Dictionary of Music and
Musicians,' Lond. 1880, vol. ii. p. 50.
READING.
W. R. W.'s contribution (ante, p. 106)
regarding Clement Kent of Thatcham, M.P.,
and the descendants of Griffith Kent of
South wark, Norway merchant, is very
serviceable. " The grandfather of Clement
Kent, Esq., of Thatcham, late Member of
Parliament for Reading, and my wife's
grandfather Griffith Kent (who was born
at Sunning, Berks), were brothers' sons."
See ' A Genealogical Account of the Family
of Druce of Goreing, co. Oxon,' by George
Druce, Lond. 1735, p. 29. The relation-
ship stated ante, p. 52 (No. 7), is therefore
confirmed. The names of Griffith Kent
and John Shorter, merchants, appear on the
committee mentioned in an Act of July 14,
1659, for settling the Militia for the Borough
of Southwark (' Acts and Ordinances of the
Interregnum,' vol. ii. p. 1312). Griffith
Kent was born at Sonning, probably in
March, 1611/12. The entry in the Church
Register reads, " Griffin son of John Kent ";
but the Register for that period being a
transcription, the name Griffith may have
been wrongly transcribed, or misappre-
hended when the baptism was entered. In
his will, dated Mar. 30, 1677, proved P.C.C.
March, 1682/3 (Cottle 35), he is described
as of Redriffe, co. Middlesex, merchant.
He desired to be buried in the parish church
of St. Saviour in Southwark (Southwark
Cathedral) in or near the grave or graves of
his wife and children. His stepson Sir
John Shorter, Kt. (1625-1688), Goldsmith,
and Lord Mayor, was also buried there ;
but their inscriptions are now obliterated.
The Shorter pedigree occurs in Le Neve's
' Knights ' (Harl. Soc. vol. viii. p. 301). Sir
John was the grandfather of Katharine-
Shorter, wife- of the Rt. Hon. Sir Robert
Walpole, K.G., afterwards Earl of Orford.
Her sister Charlotta Shorter was married to-
Francis Lord Conway, father of Francis,.
Earl of Hertford (James Brown, F.S.A.).
As regards Elizabeth Latham, who was
married to Thomas Kent, brewer, of Sonning-
(ante, p. 53), I find that her will, dated
Sept, 16, 1679, proved P.C.C. June 8, 1680-
(Bath 82), appears in ' Geneal. Gleanings
in England,' by Henry F. Waters, A.M.,.
Boston, 1901, vol. i. p. 759. It bequeathed
her wedding ring, her silver tankard, and
her Great Bible (probably Cranmer's). By~
her said marriage it is interesting to state
that she became stepmother to John Kent
of St. Michael Bassishaw, London, merchant,,
citizen, and Merchant Taylor (ante, p. 53).
The said John Kent was bur.* "wrapped
in woollen onely," Feb. 6, 1694, and his wife
Elizabeth - - was buried * in woollen,.
Mar. 8, 1708. Her will, dated Jan. 22, 1702,.
was proved P.C.C. March, 1708 (Barrett 64).
They had the following issue : —
1. John Kent living Sept. 16, 1679, prob-
ably dead Sept. 19, 1693.
2. Ruth, of whom presently.
3. Walter Kent of Kingston-upon-Thames,,
Esq., formerly Turkey merchant, died Feb-
ruary, 1746, cet. 84, presumably s.p.s. He
married (M/ L April 11, 1688) Eleanor, dau.
of Thomas Whincopp of Esher, co. Surrey.
She was living Oct. 27, 1724. His willv
dated July 8, 1740, was proved P.C.C. March,.
1746 (Edmunds 90).
4. Elizabeth, cet. 22 years July, 1687,.
married (i.) to Charles Mitchell, who died
ante January, 1702, leaving a son Edward
Mitchell, and (ii.) to William Brown, by
whom she had Eleanor and Hannah. Thejr
were living Jan. 22, 1702.
5. Hannah, married* May 18, 1695, by
licence to Robert Hooke, Esq. She was a
widow Jan. 22, 1702, with a daughter
Elizabeth.
Ruth Kent aforesaid, the eldest dau., was
twice married : Istly,* Aug. 31, 1679, by
licence, to William Kent of London, mer-
chant, who was bur.* in woollen, April 17r
* St. Michael Bassishaw, now united with
St. Lawrence Jewry.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
185
1706— his will, dated Jan. 11, 1680, was
proved P.C.C. April 20, 1706 (Ledes 90);
2ndly (M/L Sept. 11, 1710) to John Austen.
They were both living Oct. 27, 1724. By
William Kent, her first husband, she had
1. John Kent bap.* Aug. 17, 1680, prob.
«Iead Sept. 19, 1693.
2. William Kent bap.* Jan. 19, 1683,
prob. dead Jan. 3, 1710.
3. Elizabeth bur.* July 29, 1703, in
woollen only.
4. Ruth, living Jan. 22, 1702, mar. to
Thomas Barker and had Ruth, a spinster,
living Sept. 12, 1759.
5. Chidiock Kent of Romsey, co. Southton,
«sq. Will dated Sept. 12, 1759, proved
P.C.C. June 20, 1760 (Lynch 245). Like his
uncle Walter Kent of Kingston-on-Thames,
he died presumably s.p.s.
The said William Kent of London, mer-
chant, had two brothers, also London
merchants, and two sisters ; and it may be
well to mention them for genealogical
record.
1. Anne, mar. to William Naish of Salis-
bury and had a dau. Mary. They were
living Oct. 27, 1724.
2. Deborah, mar. to Rooke. She
was a widow Oct. 27, 1724, with three
•children (under age April 5, 1716), Giles,
Deborah, and Mary. On Sept. 12, 1759,
Giles is described as Giles Rooke, Esq.,
Deborah a spinster, and Mary as deceased.
Mary, the last named, was mar. to Joseph
Pearce of Lymington, co. Southton, apothe-
cary, and had by him four daughters, Mary,
-Ann, Bathia (?) and Sophia, all unm. at that
date.
3. Stephen Kent of London, merchant,
.apprenticed to John Kent of St. Michael
Bassishaw, merchant, see supra. Described
.as of Richmond, co. Surrey, gent., in his
will dated Oct. 27, 1724, proved P.C.C.
Jan. 27, 1726/7 (Farrant 16). He was bur.*
Jan. 21, 1727, in woollen " near to his
brother William " in terms of said will.
He appears to have died unmar. A former
will dated Jan. 3, 1710, was some years ago
in the writer's possession. The armorials
on the seal attached to the signature may
be stated thus : Coat — a lion passant -
guardant, a chief erm. Crest — a lion's
head, erased, collared and lined — similar to
those borne by Clement Kent of Thatcham,
M.P., see Burke's ' General Armory.'
* St. Michael Bassishaw, now united with
St. Lawrence Jewry.
They, however, differ slightly from the
original grant by Richard St. George,
Norroy, July 24, 1615, to Roger Kent of
Coppenhall, co. Chester.
4. Charles Kent of London, merchant.
' The History of Shiplake, Oxon,' by Emily
J. Climenson, Lond. 1894, alludes to him,
p. 305, as " a rich merchant who owned
property in several counties, also important
estates in Jamaica." He died April 14,
1716, cet. 49, and was bur. at Folke, co.
Dorset (Hutchins's ' Dorset,' vol. iv. p. 55).
Will dated April 5, 1716, proved P.C'C.
13th idem (Fox 75). Susanna, his wife, died
Feb. 16, 1718, and was bur. with him. Her
will, which describes her as of West Hall,
co. Dorset, is dated Feb. 2, and was proved
P.C.C. Mar. 9, 1718 (Browning 49). They
left surviving issue, three co-heiresses,
viz. : (i.) Susanna, bap. Jan. 20, 1704/5 ;
died 1791. She was mar. 1722 to Henry,
son of James Jennings, M.P., of Shiplake
Court, Oxon. He died in France in 1739.
See tablet in Shiplake Church. They had
a son, Henry Constantino Jennings, " vir-
tuoso " (1731-1819) ('D.N.B.'). In 1816
he claimed the Earldom of Warwick and
Salisbury and royal descent from King
Edward III. (Mr. James Coleman). (ii.) Char-
lotte, mar. at Shiplake by licence Dec. 18,
1725, to John Dalby of Hurst, co. Berks,
esq., and was living July 26, 1737. (iii.) Dul-
cibella, bap. April 17, 1711, living Oct. 271,
1724.
Susanna and Dulcibella were bap. at St.
Bartholomew the Great, and their two
brothers Charles and William, who died
infants January, 1707/8, were buried in
the chancel there.
I have to express my indebtedness in
preparing the above notes to the Rev.
G. P. Crawfurd, M.A., Vicar of Sonning,
and the Rev. J. Stephen Barrass, Rector
of St. Lawrence Jewry, for extracts from
their church registers ; and also to earlier
contributions to my collection by the late
Col. J. L. Chester, D.C.L., LL.D., and the
late Dr. G. W. Marshall, afterwards Somerset
Herald.
Col. Chester also supplied the following
baptisms from the Registers of St. Luke,
Chelsea, relating to Clement Kent, M.P.
(ante, pp. 52, 106). Some reader may be
glad of them : —
1707, Aug. 17. Richard, son of Clement
Kent, gent.
1714, April 25. Sebastian, son of Capt.
Clement Kent. p RAMSEY-KENT.
82 Victoria Street, Westminster, S.W.
186
NOTES AND QUERIES. (12 s. v. JULY, 191*.
There is a pedigree of the Kent family of
Wadworth, mentioned at the last reference,
in Hunter's * South Yorkshire,' i. (1828), 254
— four generations. In the same volume are
references to members of the Kent family of
Kimberworth by Rotherham, pp. 195 and
401, and in vol. ii. (1831), pp. 13, 353.
J. W. FAWCETT.
Consett, co. Durham.
DEVILS BLOWING HORNS OR
TRUMPETS.
(12 S. iv. 134, 201, 308; v. 48.)
CONTRASTING with the castle of Heaven,
where angels are playing musical instru-
ments, Hell, with devils blowing horns from
a tower and personifications of vices, appears
in a wall painting formerly in a church at
Stratford - on - Avon. It was reproduced,
before its being whitewashed again, by
Fisher in his work on Stratford paintings.
Thomas Sharp had it in his magistral study
on the * Coventry Mediaeval Plays,' 1825, and
it is to be found again in many modern
books, including ' The Plays of our Fore-
fathers,' by Mr. Charles Mills Gayley.
The last work has a reproduction of
Christhar rowing Hell from ' Ancient Mys-
teries Described ' ; one devil has a horn
with the words " out, out, arought." This
print may be the same as the one given by
Hearne in the appendix to his edition of
Fordun's ' Scotichronicon,' vol. v. p. 1403,
according to Th. Sharp (p. 60). Another
print in Th. Sharp (loc. cit. p. 63) is said to
be an ancient German wood- engraving,
without any further indication of source.
Here a winged demon is seen blowing a
twice-curved horn, different in shape and
form and also bigger than the English ones.
The well-known illustrated ' History of
England,' by Green, reproduces, with a
curious commentary, a pretended thirteenth -
century caricature against Jews. It is really
taken from the Jews Roll of the date above,
but I have ascertained, through examining
the document myself, that the drawing is a
later addition, made during, and possibly
at the end of, the fourteenth century. It
represents, in fact, some mystery on the
stage with the three-faoed King of Hell,
demons, one of whom is blowing a horn
from a tower, and personifications of vices.
The similarity with the painting at Stratford
is striking, some identical inscriptions are
partly legible : " Gola " for Gula, " Bia " for
Superbia. Real names of Jews have been
added, like Isaac of Norwich, Avegay, and'
others, which creates confusion.
The three English examples quoted above
seem to refer to some religious plays of the
time. But the many accounts of myateriea
given by Th. Sharp have no allusion to
expenses for the horn of the devils, while the
trumpets of angels are mentioned there
again and again. Maybe, the actors playing
the part of devils were using real horns like
those used for calling back the cattle home
(which, by the way, were said in Scotland to
frighten the evil spirits away). Maybe, also,,
the horns reproduced were rather speaking-
trumpets, made of some cheap and perishable-
stuff, such as the ones used nowadays by
children during the carnival feasts. In fact,
the devils, according to the text of the
mysteries, had to perpetually shout the
words : " harrow," " alas," " haro out," and'
wanted probably something for enforcing
their voice.
I understand that the horn or bagpipe for
the devil is a late and grotesque fancy, in
opposition to the heavenly music. Trum-
pets, I believe, were reserved, from an early
date, to angels when summoning the dead
for judgment or transmitting an order of the
Almighty, such as the Commandments to*
Moses. They really represent the " Word
of God," as pointed out by M. Westlake
( ' History of Wall Painting ' ). Examples are
quoted by him, including the frescoes at
Saint-Savin, in San Angelo in Formis, Rome,,
and St. Michael at Burgfielden, Wurtem-
berg. One may add an early Irish MS. at
St. Gallen, and others.
I do not know of any examples where the
calling for jiidgment is allowed to anybody
but angels. A doubtful instance is in
Wootton-Wawen Church (Warwickshire).
Some very interesting "frescoes" — I uae
the word intentionally — have been lately dis-
covered there in a south chapel. Through the-
courtesy of Rev. — Pollock I was allowed
to have a good examination when they were-
still half-hidden by whitewash. On the
south wall the well-known subject of the
punishment of vices ig treated in the usual
way : Pride is a crowned woman holding a
sceptre and transpierced by a speaj1; Sloth,
a man sitting and playing a pipe and a
drum ; Avarice is a burning man — perhaps
Judas — presented with pieces of money by
a red devil ; Lechery is a monk tempted by
a naked woman. Above all a big figure of
a sort of herald is blowing a long trumpet
with a red pennon hanging from it. His face
is rather ugly and he may be understood as
& demon, but I rather suppose it is r,n unusual
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NOTES AND QQERIES.
187
presentation of the Supreme Order callin
ie vices for punishment. I leave it t
•mebody more acquainted with the MSS
the time to decide on the question.
It may be added that many devils or
onsters during the fifteenth century anc
ter, for instance, in paintings by J. Boscl
id Teniers, had sometimes their musica
struments blending with their nose or the
iver part of their body. The latter joke if
ite mediaeval ; even Dante himself has
»t despised it, and the readers of ' Inferno
11 remember at the end of Canto XXI. : —
Ed egli avea del cul fatto trumbetta.
It remains to say that a general icono
aphy of the devil is badly wanted by the
idents of mediaeval iconography. It has
en attempted by Miss Margaret Stokes in
r well-known English edition of Didron's
Ostoire de Dieu,' but her work is rather
sketch and the siibject remains practically
touched. Such a study should con-
.erably help in identifications of works of
;. When the liturgical part or even the
;endary element of the religious subjects
s severely controlled by the Church, some
edom was generally allowed in the re-
»sentation of the devils. Local influences
I temporary fashions could be more easily
;ected in the treatment of the subject,
ich I hope will tempt later some student ;
3 the matter is enormous and will require
erious effort. PIERRE TURPIN.
4 Heath Terrace, Leamington.
DICKENS' s TOPOGRAPHICAL SLIPS (12 S.
37. 136, 164). — I am by no means con-
ced that MR. ALECK ABRAHAMS' s charges
tinst Dickens with regard to Child's Bank
borne out. Hilton Price should be a
•d authority on the subject ; but reference
that first-rate authority Harben ('A
jtionary of London'), to Wheatley's
mdon Past and Present,' and to Walford's
id and New London,' makes me doubtful
:o the date of the building of that Child's
ik which was known to Dickens and to
ny others still alive. At any rate,
ording to Pennant the original goldsmith's
p of Blanohard & Child seems to have
n standing in 1793, eighteen years after
opening of « The Tale of Two' Cities.' I
not know exactly what MR. ABRAHAMS
ins by saying that Dickens' « reference to
use of cheques is " haphazard " — I
aid like the charge to be stated in a more
bicular, and less apparently " haphazard "
iner. At any rate Francis, in his
story of the Bank of England,' tells us
of a gentleman who in 1780 was induced to
give his cheque for 500?. for a parcel of
forged notes, which cheque was cashed early
the following morning, before a discovery of
the fraud was made.
As to the use of cheques in the eighteenth
and early nineteenth centuries, the following
throw a light on the practice : —
5 Anne, cap. 17. — The word cheque is used
in the sense of counterfoil.
In a Court Minute of the Bank of England,
1717, occurs the following: —
" All persons who keep accounts by drawn
notes to use cheques."
Annual Review, 1803 : —
" Might pay to the several stockholders their
interest money in cbecques [stc], as they are called^
or drafts to bearer, on some Banker."
Todd, 1818 :—
" Check, the corresponding cypher of a Bank
bill : often corruptly used for the draft itself."
A very high official of the Bank of
England writes me that : —
It looks as if the beginning of the eighteenth
century saw the beginning of the cheque system ;
though it was not for a
dictionaries used the word
hundred years that
for the draft rather
than the counterfoil."
I should like to know if in view of these
facts MR. ABRAHAMS upholds his charge
against Dickens that the author's " reference
to the use of cheques is haphazard."
Why Dickens should be blamed for not
laving referred — quite unnecessarily, in my
opinion — to the story of Sarah Anne Child' s;
elopement with the 10th Earl of Westmorland
n 1782, I cannot conceive ; but there seems
}o be an epidemic of hole-picking in the
Tiantle of the great novelist at the moment..
As to Dickens being ignorant of this
•omance, which was often mentioned when.
1 was a small boy sixty years ago, that
ppears almost a ludicrous assumption in
riew of his appetite for all romances, legends,,
and traditions connected with London.
W. COTJRTHOPE FORMAN..
Compton Down, near Winchester.
SOTJTHEY'S CONTRIBUTIONS TO * THE
CRITICAL REVIEW' (12 S. iv. 35, 66, 94,.
22). — MR. JACOB ZEITLIN'S four papers
.nder this heading display a painstaking
nd successful research which will lay
future bibliographers of Southey's writings
under a considerable obligation to their
author. But his criticisms of the poet-
critic as reviewer will not, I suspect, pass
muster equally well. Such phrases as
" colourless summaries," " deprived his
articles of all character," " resulting in-
sipidity," " giving pleasure to worthless-
188
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. V.JULY, 1919.
writers," &c., will, it seems to me, appear
unduly severe to others than, those of the
sealed tribe of bibliographers. That all are
not of MB. ZEITLIN'S opinion is clear from
Landor' s ' Imaginary Conversations between
'Southey and Porson.' I take it that the
views attributed to Porson are in reality
those of Landor himself, as much as those
he ventilates in his conversation headed,
' The Abbe Delille and Walter Landor.'
.But be they Landor1 s or Porson' s, the
subjoined excerpts (from vol. iii.) hardly
/square with MR. ZEITLIN'S estimate of
Southey as a reviewer : —
<k Be sparing of your animadversions on
,Byron."-P. 42.
" What exquisite pleasure must you have felt
in being the only critic of our age and country
labouring for the advancement of those who might
'be thought your rivals ! " — P. 46.
"Let me ask you, who being both a poet and a
.critic are likely to be impartial," &c.— P. 46.
" I admire your suavity of temper, and your
consciousness of worth ; your disdain of obloquy,"
, etc.— P. 48.
" Although you attributed to him [Wordsworth]
what perhaps was not greatly above his due." &c. —
P. 50.
14 You judge correctly that there are several
parts of genius in which Demosthenes is deficient."
—P. 57.
" You, Mr. Southey, will always be considered
the soundest and the fairest of our English critics ;
but your admirable good nature has thrown a
•costly veil over many defects and some deform-
ities."—P. 70.
The second half of the last quotation, while
it exhibits Lander's (or Person's) impar-
tiality, does not impair the value of the
.first half. J. B. McGovERN.
SCOTCHMAN'S POST (12 S. v. 123).—
" Scotchman's Post," erected on the Winter
Hill portion of the Horwich Moors, marks
the scene of a murder committed in 1838,
and bears the following inscription : —
"In memory of George Henderson, traveller,
native of Arran, Dumfriesshire, who was barbar-
ously murdered on Horwich Moor, on Monday
November 9th, 1838, in the 20th year of his age."
.Henderson was shot, and the culprit was
never discovered. A man named Whittle
was apprehended for the murder, but was
discharged after a trial at the Liverpool
Assizes in 1839.
The present memorial (of cast iron) is
.the third erected at this spot. The first
was a plain oak stake, replaced in 1887 by
..a stone memorial, which was damaged and
uprooted a few years ago and replaced by
the present one.
Henderson, although a native of Scotland,
was known as a " Scotchman " by reason
of his being a travelling draper or packman,
and your correspondent is in error in
describing him as a travelling " bargee " ;
in fact the use of this word is new to me in.
any other connexion than that of a man,
employed on a barge.
ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
RIDDLE BY GEORGE SELWYN (12 SJ
v. 153). — I should guess the answer of this
to be : a bee in a bandbox. I have no
doubt about the receptacle and very little]
about the inmate. Without a b any
" bargain " would be incomplete and so not;
very good. I fancy that my grandmother, j
born when George III. was king, used to]
speak of things being "as - - as a bee
in a bandbox " — the blank is caused, not byj
any impropriety in the dear lady's language,'
but by my own lack of memory. I think the
missing word was " safe " : the captive!
would be fairly secure, though it might]
resent its loneliness.
I have met with the expression " like aj
bee in a box " in print, and have also ream
that a certain kind of collar was known as a]
" bee." An article of that sort might be]
fitly kept in a bandbox. ST. SWITHIN.
PHILADELPHIA LINK WITH LONDON (12 S.
v. 148). — James Peller Malcolm gives th€J
epitaph on Catharine Mary Meade in hill
' Londinium Redivivum,' 1803-7, vol. ii.
p. 552. He describes the monument as
" A neat tablet, near the vestry-door, by]
Cooke, with a relief, of a female, mourning over!
an urn, shaded by a weeping willow."
After the epitaph he writes : —
" I cannot refrain from adding, that I had the
pleasure of knowing this amiable young lady:,
intimately ; whose sudden death was the cause ofj
most sincere grief to all her friends."
ROBERT PIERPOINT. j
BISHOP DAWSON OF CLONFERT (12 S.j
iv. 133, 171). — Since the above query and
answer appeared I have found in the
church of South Kirkby, Yorkshire, the
following inscription to the bishop's
daughter : —
" Hie jacet corpus M.argeriae filiae reverend! in
Christo patris D. Robert! Dawson, defunct!,
quondam Episcopi Clonfertensis et Kilmacdowy-
hensis in regno Hiberniae; quondam uxoris et
relictse yirilis ducis ad arma Colonelli Joh'is Morris,
martyris pro Bege et patria ; quid dulcius ?
Postea nuperque uxoris Jonse Buckley, gen.
Quse obiit 28 die Octobris, anno Christ! 1665;
aetatisque sue 38. Mors mihi lucrum."
Can any one now supply me with the
name of the bishop's wife, date of the
marriage, and date of her death ; also the
names of any more of his family or de-
scendants ? J. W. F.
2 S. V. JULY, 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
189'
CLASSICAL PARALLELISMS TO THE WAR
2 S. v. 57). — A striking passage of Virgil's
found in ' ^En.,' x. 230. A sea-nymph
eaks : —
nea, vigila, et velis immitte rudentes.
»s sumus Idsnse sacro de vertice pinus,
mo pelagi Nymphse, classis tua. Perfidus ut nos
fficipites ferro Rutulus flammaque premebat ;
ipimus invitee tua vincula, teque per sequor
serimus. Hanc genetrix faciem miserata refecit ;
dedit esse Deas, sevumque ; agitare sub undis.
)t only do these words (some I italicize for
ident reasons) read like a prophecy and a
krning, but poetic genius ascribes grief to
e sunken craft instead of to the remaining
et, however distracted by their loss. This
3ws that sea-sentiment, universal among
ifarers, excepting our late adversaries
me, existed in full force in days of old.
" Innabant pariter " (1. 222) may be
ken as undying memories helping to make
eh loss a gain. J. K.
louth Africa.
FORGOTTEN WRITERS (12 S. v. 150). — I
d in an American publication, ' Library
Poetry and Song,' some information
jarding the following : —
Frances Brown (Browne), Ireland, 1818-64.
lames Joseph Callanan, Ireland, 1795-
29.
Margaret Davidson, American, 1823-
*8 (sic).
Edward Johnson, M.D., English. (No
tes, but mentions that his poem * The
bter-Drinker ' was published 1837.)
Che George Washington Doane mentioned
presumably the well-known American
mn-writer and Bishop of New Jersey,
J2. Born May 27, 1799 ; died April 27,
>9. (See Julian's ' Dictionary of Hymn-
gy-')
Che Rev. Cornelius .Neale was born
g. 12, 1789, and died Aug. 8, 1823. (See
Life by Rev. William Jowett, M.A.) He
3 the father of the eminent and revered
in Mason Neale.
J. DE BERNIERE SMITH.
Gloucestei Gate, Regent's Park, N.W.I.
£ELLOND SURNAME (12 S. v. 154). — A
lily named Kelland lived at Gainsford in
i seventeenth century, and monuments,
earliest " John Kelland, Esquire, 1679,''
in Ashprington Church, Devon. Accord-
to an endorsement on one of the Totnes
nicipal deeds dated 1520, " John Kel-
d," probably the ancestor of the first
[land of Gainsford, who inherited through
rriage with Somaster, had a house in
;nes in the sixteenth century, but the
name does not otherwise occur in the very
complete series of Totnes records (see ' Hist^
of Totnes Priory and Mediaeval Town').
I cannot suggest a Devonshire place-name
as the origin, it is more probably Cornish r
Kellilan, Kellinellan, Kellow, Kelly, Kelly-
han, as well as other combinations of the -
first syllable, being foi nd in Cornwall.
HUGH R. WATKIN.
Chelston, Torquay.
TILLY KETTLE (12 S. v. 154). — Tilly
Kettle was son of a coach-builder, and born
in London about 1740. He studied at the
Duke of Richmond's Gallery and the
St. Martin's Lane Academy, and practised as
a portrait painter in London and India.
He died in 1786 at Aleppo.
CONSTANCE RUSSELL.
Swallowfield, Reading.
He was born in London about 1740, the
son of a coach-painter. In 1765 he joined
the Incorporated Society of Artists. After
practising portrait painting in London went
to India, amassed a fortune, and returned
1776. Exhibited at the Academy, 1777,
1781, 1783. His good fortune then deserted
him ; he became bankrupt, and left London, .
He set out to return to India, but died at
Aleppo in 1786. There is a portrait by
him of Warren Hastings in the National.'
Portrait Gallery, and of Sir William Black-
stone at Oxford. See Bryan's ' Dictionary
of Painters' and ' D.N.B.'
A. G. KEALY,
Chaplain, R.N. (retired).
Gosport.
[W. B. H. and MR. ARCHIBALD SPARKE also-
thanked for replies. ]
HERVEY OR HERVET (12 S. v. 95, 167).—
I am obliged to MR. N. W. HILL for his reply
to my query. But I cannot agree with him
that Her vet is a diminutive of Hervey. Its
form and its use alike forbid it. It is not
on all fours with Pierrot and many like
diminutives which are formed by adding the
syllable et or ot to the name. Hare is no-
addition of the syllable et, but simply a
change of the final letter and sound. Nor
is it the case that there are two names,
Hervey and Hervet, some families called by
the one and some by the other. There is
but one name with two forms or two pro-
nunciations, and the same families are called
by both. Hervet is only the occasional
provincial pronunciation of the more usual
Hervey. That it is not modern is shown by
its occurrence in an Inq. p.m. in the reign
of Henry III. ; that it is not obsolete is shown-.
190
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by its being heard in the reign of Victoria.
The change from Hervey to Hervet seems
to be exactly opposite to a more usual change
of syllables which can be easily accounted
for. It is common in names and words for a
final long syllable to become a short one
•ending in ey. For example, (1) Hithe in
Putney, Stepney, Bleadney, and many other
place-names. (2) I knew a man once who
•was called Holly, pronounced fts " holy."
He told me that his grandfather's name was
Halbrook. (3) A man once asked me to
send him some certificates from the parish
register. The name as he wrote it was
Ratcliffe. I found it entered as Rackley.
(4) Falkland sometimes becomes Fally.
But no need to multiply instances : they
abound. In all such cases the final long
syllable becomes a short one ending in ey,
and it is easy to see why. It saves trouble.
It is less trouble to make the final syllable
short than to keep it long. In the one case
it is as a bicycle propelled along the plain,
in the other case it is as a bicycle running
•down the hill. As the change from Hervey
to Hervet is the opposite to what is usual
and gives trouble instead of saving it, I
would ask whether there is not some law
(I don't mean an Act of Parliament) which
would account for it. I don't know what the
French custom is. S. H. A. H.
JAMES COCKLE, OF COCKLE'S PILLS (12 S.
v. 154). — The following extract from The
Medical Directory for 1846 may interest
your correspondent : —
" Cockle, James. — In practice before the Act
of 1815 (when qualifications became necessary),
matriculated at the University of Edinburgh in
1801, formerly, during many years, Parochial
.•Surgeon to Great Oakley and liamsey in Essex."
S. D. CLIPPINGDALE, M.D.
I have understood that Cockle practised
.as a surgeon in a small town in Norfolk.
'Sir James Cockle, the judge, of Brisbane,
was his son. J. FOSTER PALMER.
SIR CHARLES WILLIAM TAYLOR, BT. ( 12 S.
v. 153).— He was M.P. for Wells 1796 to
1830, married Lord Sydenham's sister, and
died April 10, 1857, aged 86. The title
expired with his only son Sir Charles Taylor,
2nd bart., at his death Aug. 26, 1876.
W. R. WILLIAMS.
The following account is taken from
Boase's ' Modern English Biography ' : —
" Sir Charles William Taylor, 1st Baronet (son
of Peter Taylor of Burcot House, near Wells,
:Somerset, M.P. for Portsmouth 1774 to his death,
1777), was born April 25, 1770, and was M.P. for
Wells City from May 27, 1796, to July 24, 1830 ; •
created D.C.L. at Oxford, July 6, 1810 ; created
baronet, Jan. 21, 1828. Died at Hollycoombe,
Sussex, April 10, 1857."
A memoir of him appears in The Gentle-,
man's Magazine for May, 1857, which states
that he was a favourite companion of King
George IV. when Prince of Wales, was a
constant visitor at Carlton House and the
Pavilion, and that he was created baronet
by that monarch. ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
[W. A. B. C. also thanked for reply.]
ST. ALKELDA (12 S. v. 152).— Of this saint
nothing is certainly known. Dr Whittaker^
in his ' History of Richmondshire ' (vol. i.
p. 333) says: —
" In the east window of the north aisle of]
Middleham Church was a stained - glass picture •
of St. Alkelda, the patroness of the church, in '.
the act of being strangled by two females. The*
story is said to be unknown to all the Catholic]
martyrologies, and the history of the sufferer
wholly forgotten."
In a ' Concise Guide to Richmondshire,' by]
WT. Hylton Longstaffe (1852), it is stated*
that Ralph, Lord Neville, the great Earl ofj
Westmorland,
" obtained Richard II. 's charter for a weekly!
market there, and a yearly fair on the feast ofj
St. Alkelda the virgin, a local saint, of whom:,
nothing more is known, beyond the fact that her
martyrdom, two female servants strangling her,
remains in a hideous state of dilapidation in the-
windows. There are marks of screens having
crossed the whole church, on the two piers of thej
nave first from the east. At the south of these?
two was an altar tomb, supposed to be that of
St. Alkelda, on which payments of money were,
required to be made (as on the tomb of John
Harby in York Cathedral). The pulpit stands
nearly on its site."
Murray's ' Guide to Yorkshire ' (1882) saygf
speaking of Middleham Church, " There are
some fragments of ancient glass, com-
memorating St. Alkelda, of whom nothing
is known."
In 1878 there was discovered in the nave
of Middleham Church, near the site of the
traditional tomb of St. Alkelda, a female
skeleton in a stone coffin. Local opinion
jumped to the conclusion that it was that of
the saint, and a tablet has been placed in
the church recording the discovery and
marking the spot.
There was a holy well at Middleham
dedicated to the saint, which is referred to
in an indictment at the Richmond Quarter
Sessions in July, 1640, as "St. Awkell's
Well."
The only other church dedicated to this
saint is that of Giggleswick in the West
Riding. This parish has also a famous
tas.
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191
ell, the celebrated " Ebbing and Flowing
rell." This was most probably at one
me a holy well.
Haelig-keld is the Anglo -Slaxon for holy
ell. There is a spring near Malmerby, in
ichmondshire, which in Anglo-Saxon days
>re this name of Haelig-keld, and has thus
ven the name of Halikeld to the Wapentake
; this day.
Speaking of the ebbing and flowing well at
iggleswick the author of ' The West Riding
Yorkshire ' in Methuen's " Little Guides "
>ries says : —
"It is incredible that in very early times,
hen springs of all kinds were the objects of
>neration, this singular curiosity should escape
jservation. It has been suggested, indeed, that
tis was a holy well ; and that the name of the
?dication saint of Giggleswick Church — St. Al-
jlda — is merely a corruption of haelig-keld and
tat the- lady herself is imaginary. — Yorkshire
rchceological Journal, xii. 83."
WM. SELF WEEKS.
Very little is known of this good woman,
id indeed it has been suggested that there
sver was any such person. If she did exist,
le was a Saxon princess who was strangled
Y the Danes. The parish church of
iddleham in Yorkshire stands on the spot
here the sad deed is said to have been
tacted, and inside the church there is some
ained glass that recalls the martyrdom,
ast century a stone coffin was discovered in
le church and in it were the bones of a
oman. People, jumping to conclusions
>rhaps, declared that these were the mortal
mains of the saint herself.
On the other hand, it is argued that from
me immemorial there has been a well at
iddleham, where the ancient Briton
lenched his thirst and then gave thanks to
ie kindly genius of the spring. The
txons would have called it Halikeld (haelig,
cred, and keld, a fountain). The early
iristians no doubt substituted the Blessed
irgin for the spirit of the fountain and
>dicated their church to St. Mary of
alikeld. The Normans, not understanding
iixon, corrupted the name into St. Mary
id St. Alkelda (not Akelda, as given by
.e correspondent to ' N. & Q.'), and the
ory of the martyrdom grew up later. A
mewhat similar case is that of St. Osyth
Essex, who also is said to have been a
ixon princess murdered by the Danes.
Saints are so few in this wicked world of
irs that it is sad to have to prove that
ere has been one less of them than is
mmonly supposed.
T. PERCY ARMSTRONG.
There is one church besides that of Middle-
ham dedicated to St. Alkelda, that of"
Giggleswick, where the same corruption of
the word Halikeld seems to have taken
place. For at Giggleswick is the marvellous
well whose ebbing and flowing is not easily
accounted for even now, and which in old
days must have been attributed to super-
natural agency.
Near Melmerby in the North Riding is a
spring still called Halikeld, which gives it»
name to the Wapentake.
M. H. DODDS.
Home House, Low Fell, Gateshead.
[The REV. A. G. KEALY also thanked for
reply.]
EXCHANGE OF SOULS IN FICTION (12 S.
v. 124). — The following works of fiction all1
treat of this subject : —
Flames : a London Phantasy. By Robert S. Hichens. '
The soul of a human Mephistopheles seizes one
man's personality and seduces another ; a weird
story, akin on one side to 'Dr. Jeykll and Mr.-
Hyde.'
Ligeia. By Edgar Allan Poe.
Tells of a woman of powerful will returning
from the dead and usurping the living body of
her husband's second wife.
The Return. By Sir John De La Mare.
Gives the experiences of a man whose person-
ality has been seized by a being from beyond the
grave.
As far as I recollect the following novels
also treat of the same subject : —
A Beleaguered City. By Mrs. Oliphant.
An Exchange of Souls. By Barry Pain.
The Jacket. By Jack London.
It may also be of interest to your corre-
spondent that in Lord Byron's ' The De-
formed Transformed ' the soul of the
Stranger passes into the body of Arnold;
and in Spenser's ' Fairie Queen,' where -
Priamond and Diamond are slain, their
souls take up their abode in the body of
their surviving brother Triamond.
ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
H. G. Wells' s 'The Story of the Late Mr.
Elvesham,' a short story in ' The Plattner
Story and Others ' (Methuen & Co.).
G. H. WHITE.
23 Weighton Road, Anerley.
Perhaps some of the following books will,
fall within the class of novels required :-
J. D. Hennessey's ' A Lost Identity,' F.
Anstey's 'Vice Versa,' Barry Pain's 'The
One Before,' J. Donnelly's ' Doctor Huguet,'
Mrs. Rosa Praed's ' The Insane Root,'
M. E. Braddon's ' The Conflict,' T. W.
Speight's ' Strange Experiences of Mr.
Verschoyle,' George Griffith's 'Denver's
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Double,' R. S. Hichens's 'Flames,' Steven-
sou's ' Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde,' and ' The
Transformation of Hanna Stubbs,' whose
author's name I have forgotten.
N. W. HILL.
BIBLIOGRAPHY or EPITAPHS (12 S. v. 68,
129, 161). — I append a further list of
publications on above subject from books in
my possession : —
The History and Antiquities of Windsor. By
Joseph Pote. Eton : Printed by Joseph Pote,
Bookseller. MDCCXLIX. — This work contains six
full-page illustrations of monuments to noted
.persons buried in St. George's Chapel ; amongst
them one to Edward, Earl of Lincoln, Lord High
Admiral in the reign of Queen Elizabeth, died
Jan. 16, 1584.
Remarks on English Churches and Sepulchral
Memorials. By J. H. Markland, F.R.S. and S.A.
Oxford : John Henry Parker ; C. F. & J. Riving-
ton, London ; Simms & Son, Pocock, and Collings,
Bath, MDCCCLXIII.
The North Devon Hand Book. By the Rev.
George Tugwell, M.A. Oxon, Rector of Bath wick.
Published 1857. London : Simpkin, Marshall &
Co. Ilfracombe : W. Stewart, Gazette and Arrival
List Office.
Memorials of Westcot Barton, Oxon. By Rev.
Fenner Marshall, M.A., Lord of the Manor.
London : John Russell Smith, 36 Soho Square.
Historical Notes on the Church of Saint Cuth-
bert in Wells. By Thomas Serel. Wells : J. M.
Atkins, Journal Office, High Street ; and E. M.
Beauchamp, Market Place. 1875.
History of the Parish Church of Saint Michael
and All Angels, Chipping Lambourn. By John
Footman, M.A. London : Elliot Stock, 62 Pater-
noster Row, B.C. 1894.
History and Antiquities of the Newport Pagnell
Hundreds. Compiled, printed and published by
Oliver Ratcliff, Cowper Press, Olney, Bucks.
1900. Another excellent and most instructive
work which should be more widely known.
Littleover and its Church. By A. B. Scott.
Printed by Bemrose & Sons, London and Derby.
MOMXVI.
History of Congregationalism and Memorials
of the Churches in Norfolk and Suffolk. By John
Browne, B.A., Congregational Minister at Wrent-
ham. London : Jarrold & Sons, 3 Paternoster
Buildings. MDCCCLXXVII. )
_ ,. , L. H. CHAMBERS.
Bedford.
About forty epitaphs are collected in
pp. 382-94 of 'Thistledown, a Book of
..Scotch Humour,' Paisley, 1901.
Though not ranging strictly under the
above heading, perhaps the following epitaph
taken in 1903, and apparently not printed,
.••is worth preserving. It is in the churchyard
of Thaxted, Essex : —
To George Foot, Esq. — " He departed this
Life, July 27, 1819, In the 57th year of his age :
Beloved by all who knew him or had the pleasure
•of his Acquaintance." W B H
"FLUMMERY" (12 S. v. 149).— " Flum-
mery" is not unknown to contemporary
English cooks, I remember it as a dainty
dish offered at juvenile parties in early
Victorian days. A recipe for Dutch flum-
mery is given in that culinary classic ' Mrs.
Beeton,' and about half-a-dozen flummeries
were considered worthy of mention by
Mary Jewry in ' Warne's Everyday Cookery.'
The composition is not farinaceous, and I
should say that the result is an uncleared
jelly. ST. S WITHIN.
" HOMER " MONTHS (12 S. v. 150). —
" Homer " months, or " romer " ' months,
i.e., Roman months, is an antiquated ex-i
pression denoting the monthly sum of
money (fixed at the Imperial diet of Worms
in the year 1521), a subsidy of 12,800 florins,
required for keeping an army of 4,000 horse-
men and 20,000 foot soldiers sent to Rome
to maintain and protect there the Holy
Roman Empire during the Middle Ages.
H. K.
TOWER OF LONDON : YEOMEN OF THE
GUARD AND TOWER WARDERS (12 S. iv. 190).
— Chamberlayne's ' Present State of Great
Britain/ 1716, p. 105, says: —
" Of the Yeomen of the Guard. Again, in the
first Boom above Stairs, called the Guard-
Chamber, attend the Yeomen of the Guard of
His Majesty's Body ; whereof they were wont
to be two hundred and fifty Men of the best
Quality under Gentry, and of larger Stature than
ordinary (for every one of them was to be six
foot high). There are at present one hundred
Yeomen in daily waiting, and seventy more not
in waiting ; and as any one of the Hundred shall
die, his Place is to be fill'd up out of the Seventy.
These wear Scarlet Coats down to the Knee, and
Scarlet Breeches, both richly garded with black
Velvet, and rich Badges upon their Coats, before
and behind. Moreover, black Velvet round
broad-crown'd Caps (according to the Mode used
in the Reign of Henry VIII.), with Ribbands of
the King's Colour : One half of them of late
bear in their Hands Harquebuses, and the other
half Partizans, with large Swords by their Sides.
They have Wages and Diet allow' d 'em. Their
Office is to wait upon the Ki-ig in his standing
Houses, Forty by Day, and Twenty to watch by
Night ; about the City, to wait upon the King's
Person abroad by Water or Land."
Later on (pp. 217, 218) he discourses .of
the Tower of London, of whose Lieutenant
he says : —
" He hath also a further Perquisite, the
disposal of the 40 Yeomen-Warders places as
they die oft."
He then proceeds : —
" Warders. The Yeomen- Warders of the
Tower are 40 in Number, who are accounted the
King's Domestic Servants, and are sworn by the
Lord Chamberlain of his Majesty's Household,
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
193
37 the Clerk of the Cheque ; their Duty is to
md Prisoners of State, and to wait at the
;es ; Ten of them are usually upon the Days-
t, to take an account of all Persons that come
) the Tower, to enter their Names, and the
nes of the Persons they go to, in a Book, to
perused by the Constable or lieutenant. Two
hem are upon the Watch every Night."
W. R. WILLIAMS.
JHAKESPEARE AND THE GARDEN (12 S-
153). — I think MB. PATON'S question
*ht be answered by a visit to Stratford -
Avon. In the garden at the back of
ikespeare's house all the plants men-
led in the plays are represented. I have
doubt a list is kept, and a reference to this
uld give the information required as to
• flora of Shakespeare.
J. FOSTER PALMER.
Oakley Street, S.E.3.
["he poet's garden has been industriously
y over by Mr. H. N. Ellacombe ( ' The
m,t-Lore and Garden-Craft of Shake-
>are') and Mr. Leo H. Grindon ('The
ikespeare Flora '), and I should say that
>y and others labouring in their tracks
/e made a note of every vegetable that
a,kespeare planted in his works. There
i plot of ground behind the birthplace at
atford-on-Avon in which an attempt has
>n made to grow specimens of all.
ST. SWITHIN.
A glance at the subject index in my
tiakespeare Bibliography ' under " Shake-
sare's botany " or " Shakespeare's garden
owledge " or " Shakespeare's flowers "
uld instantly reveal the half-dozen books
Beisly and others dealing with this
>ject. WM. JAGGARD, Capt.
Fhere are several works which treat of
> plant-lore of Shakespeare. Taking them
•onologically, the following may be men-
tied : —
Shakespeare's Garden. By Sidney Beisly.
ngmans. 1864.
Dhe Plant-Lore and Garden-Craft of Shake-
;are. By Rev. Henry Ellacombe. Pollard,
rth Street, Exeter. 1878. Reprinted by
;chell & Co. , 1 884. Another edition, illustrated ,
nold. 1896.
Che Shakespeare Flora. By Leo H. Grindon.
Lmer & Howe, Manchester. 1883.
Shakespeare's Garden. By J. Harvey Bloom,
thuen & Co. 1903.
1 Garland of Shakespeare's Flowers. By
se Carr Smith. With coloured plates. Elliot
>ck. 1911.
J. E. HARTING.
MR. ARCHIBALD SPARKE also thanked for
ly.]
MORLANDS AND NEWCOMES (12 S. V. 141).
— Rev. Thomas Moreland was rector of
Sulhamstead till 1652, when he died. His-
daughter Marie was baptized 1628. Two-
pieces of land were called Morelands.
When Sir Samuel Moreland was created -
a baronet he was called of Sulhamstead.
Another Rev. Matthew Moreland was of-
Sulhamstead temp. Queen Elizabeth.
Apparently Martin Moreland lived at one-
time in Sulhamstead.
Thomas Morland, clerk, married at Heck-
field, 1613, Alice Croswell, gent.
(Mrs.) E. E. COPE.
Finchampstead, Berks.
LABOUR-IN-VAIN STREET, SHADWELI*
(12 S. v. 123). — Harben in his 'Dictionary
of London ' says that the name of a Court
as above was taken from a sign of a public-
house of " two women scrubbing a negro."
It was also meant to typify the excellence-
of the ale brewed in the house, which defied
the competition of the women brewers in
the industry. It was called by the lower
classes the " Devil in a Tub." Harben
also mentions other places that used to
bear this curious name, and so do Larwood
and Hotten in their ' History of Signboards.'
" To wash an ^Ethiop " is a proverbial
expression, and occurs in Massinger's ' Par- •
liament of Love.' ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
INSCRIPTIONS IN ST. JOHN THE EVANGE-
LIST'S, WATERLOO ROAD (12 S. v. 63, 135).—
One supposes that Mr. E. V. Lucas's authority
for his statement (in a note on Lamb) that
R. W. Elliston was not educated at St. Paul's
School, but at another place of the same
name in Covent Garden, is the mention of
the latter locality in the ' D.N.B.' life of
Elliston. The epitome volume of ' D.N.B.'
gives simply St. Paul's School, which is in
agreement with the School Registers, and
with Lamb. He entered on July 29, 1783,
and left in 1790. He is in the registers
wrongly stated to be " son of Dr. E., Master
of Sidney College, Cambridge," who was
really his uncle ; his father was apparently
worthless. Was there such a place as
St. Paul's School, Covent Garden ?
G. G. L.
THE ANT-BEAR AND THE TORTOISE (12 S. -
v. 125). — That old-fashioned but generally
reliable authority 'Chambers' Encyclopaedia '
observes that the anteater
" has the reputation of being slothful, unsocial
and stupid. Like other insectivorous animals
it can live for prolonged periods without food.
It spends much of its time in sleep, the long.
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snout concealed in the fur of the breast, the hind
And fore claws locked together, and the bushy
tail thrown over all, as if for a shade from the s\in.
Though the collar bones are rudimentary, the
great anteater has great strength in its fore legs,
and is said to hug like a bear, so as to crush its
enemy to death."
The uardvaik (Orajeteropus capensis) of
South Africa is a closely related type.
N. W. HILL.
" GET THE NEEDLE " (12 S. v. 151).— The
meaning given in the ' English Dialect
Dictionary' to the expression "to get the
needle " is " to be completely cheated," not,
as J. R. H. assumes in his query, " to take
offence." No explanation of the phrase is
given.
(Miss) M. E. CORNFORD, Librarian.
William Salt Public Library, Stafford.
This slang phrase i& illustrated in the
4 N.E.D.' under ' Needle,' in the sense of
annoyance or irritation. J. H. Vaux's
* Flash Dictionary,' 1812, says : " To needle
a person is to haggle with him in making a
bargain, and if possible take advantage of
him." WM. JAGGARD, Capt.
The above phrase is evidently fairly
common, as will be seen from the following
extracts : —
Needle (Tailors'). — Got the needle, i.e., irritated
as when the needle runs into a finger. Has
spread generally over working classes, who have
accepted the graphic nature of the phrase. —
Ware's ' Passing English of the Victorian Era.'
Barrere and Leland's ' Dictionary of
Slang, Jargon, and Cant ' says : —
Needle, The (General). — Vexation, stinging
annoyance.
And it gives a man the needle when he hasn't got
a bob,
To see bis pals come round and wish him joy.
— Song ' You Should Never Marry.'
(Turf). — " To get the needle " or " cop
the needle " is to be so goaded by " the slings and
arrows of outrageous fortune " that the better
loses his self-control and " plunges " wildly to
recover his money.
(Athletics). — To " get the needle " is to
feel very nervous and funky.
Farmer and Henley in ' Slang and its
Analogues ' give many examples of the use
of the phrase, from 1881 to 1898.
ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
MAY (12 S. v. 123, 164). — Archer in his
' Monumental Inscriptions of the British
West Indies,' 1875, has this information
about the May family. The Rev. Wm. May
was Rector of Kingston Cathedral Church,
Jamaica. His first wife was Smart, the
daughter of Edward and ElizabethjPennant
of Clarendon parish. She died 1722, aged
22. His second wife was Bathusa, daughter
of Florentius and Ann Vasaall of St. Eliza-
beth parish. She died 1746 ; by her he
had issue six sons and two daughters, five of
whom are buried in Kingston Church ; two
died at sea ; one was Florentius, who died
1747. His son, i.e., the Rev. W. May's son,
Rose Herring May, is the only chifd that
survived him, who, it is hoped, will inherit
his father's virtues as well as his fortune.?
Rose Herring May, his only surviving son,
born 1736-7, was Member of Council and
Gustos of Clarendon and Vere. He married
Mar. 28, 1759, Mary Trelawny Wigan (she
died 1786), by whom he had nine children.
He died 1791, and was buried in Spanish
Town. So I should think William, about
whom inquiry is made, was one of hisj
nine children. Grandfather May was at
St. John's College, Cambridge. Perhaps
Rose was another son of Rose Herring May.
Florentius, admitted in 1777, was perhaps
one of Rose Herring May's sons, as also John.
M.A.
FOLK-LORE : RED HAIR (12 S. ii. 128, 196,1
239, 379). — What justification is there for)
assuming that Rosalind was referring to •
red hair when she said : " His very hair is of
the dissembling colour " (' As You Like It,' ]
III. iv. 7-12) ? By Celia's reply at line 12 it
would appear that chestnut colour was
meant. ALFRED S. E. ACKERMANN.
ANGUISH STREET: "SCORES" (12 S.
v. 122, 165). — Forby in his ' Dictionary of
East Anglia ' (1830) gives " score " as a
gangway down the cliff to the beach for
carriages of any kind. It comes from the
A.S. scieren, to cleave or cut out. Anguish
Street is probably named after the builder.
Anguish is a rare name and is supposed to
be a corruption of Angus. W. AVER.
Primrose Club, Park Place, St. James's, S.W.I.
" PENNILES BENCH " (12 S. v. 126, 163).—
About a mile and a half to the north-east
of Winwick Church in South Lancashire
there is a place marked as " Pennyless
Bench " in the six-inch Ordnance Survey
map engraved in 1849, which is at a point
where three country lanes and a farm-road
to Kenyon Hall Farm meet. I remember
that it was known by the same name sixty
years ago, when there was a large tree, I
think it was an oak-tree, growing at the
junction of the lanes, and around its roots
a circular embankment of earth, overgrown
with grass, afforded a seat for wayfarers in
dry weather. J. P. R.
L2S. V.JULY, 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
195
WAR SLANG (12 S. iv. 271, 306, 333 :
18, 79, 159).— "Digger" is the usual
rm for Australian soldiers among them-
Ives ; and in Australia I asked a man in
at country for the derivation, and he
ought the term originated from the gold-
Ids, i.e., a gold-digger.
1 have never heard " Bill Jim " in con-
rsation, but only seen it in Australian
pers.
" Dincum " is regarded as a most binding
pression. If a man tells you that anything
;' dincum " it is probably the most binding
ing he can say — more so than " on my
bh," " honour bright," &c. No one in
LStralia that I asked could give me the
rivation.
[ have not seen " to chance one's arm " in
) list. • " I'll chance my arm " is equiva-
it to " I will have a try," and probably
plies that the " chancer " knows nothing
>ut the job.
Referring to nicknames, why is a Green
^ays a " Dodger," a Clark or Clerke
rays a " Nobby," Martin always a
'incher " ? Can any one supply a full
of surnames carrying a nickname ?
M.D., E.E.F.
DISCOVERIES IN COINS (12 S. iii. 449). —
May 15, 1919, it was reported that Mr.
A. Shepherd, a Guildford allotment-
der, had unearthed on his plot a farthing
led in the reign of Charles I.
FRED. L. TAVARE.
2 Trentham Street, Pendleton, Manchester.
:*ITT AND DlJNDAS AT NEW CROSS (12 S.
151). — The story quoted by MR. PHILIP
RMAN is given in greater detail in the
a,ble Talk of Samuel Rogers,' as follows : —
Stothard the painter happened1? to be one
ning at an inn on the Kent Road when Pitt
Dundas put up there on their way from
Imer. Next morning as they were stepping
i their carriage, the waiter said to Stothard :
•, do you observe those two gentlemen ? '
;s,' he replied, ' and I know them to be Mr.
; and Mr. Dundas.' ' Well, sir, how much
e do you suppose they drank last night ? '
:hard could not guess. ' Seven bottles,
n those days wine bottles were smaller
n they are now, and if seven were
Dtied it is reason able to infer that they
e pints. Moore has a story of Sheridan's
ler saying (when Dr. Bain was called in
. found him in a high state of fever) that he
drunk nothing extraordinary the day
>re, " only two bottles- of port."
J. E. HARTING.
[W. B. H. also thanked for reply.]
Mate* 0n 100&5,
The War of Chupas. Translated and edited by
Sir Clements R. Markham. (Hakluyt Society.)
The Book of Duarte Barbosa. Translated, edited,
and annotated by M. Longworth Dames.
(Same publishers.)
A SPECIAL interest is attached to ' The War of
Chupas,'— a pathetic interest, for this was the last
publication of the Society for which the veteran
Sir Clements Markham was responsible. The
extent and vigour of his literary career may well
seem almost incredible, when it is recalled that his
first work for the Society appeared in 1859, and
that from that time onwards hardly a year passed
without bringing something from his pen. It
was in 1864 that the translation of the first part
of the ' Cronica ' of Cieza de Le"on was entrusted
to him, and it was singularly appropriate that he
should have been spared to bring the work to a
close. For the printing of this volume was in a
forward state when the unlucky mishap brought
his life to a tragic and untimely end ; his fourscore
and more of years seemed to have impaired his
powers not a whit.
It is only quite recently that those parts of
Cieza de Leon's chronicle which deal with the
civil wars of Peru were brought to light, though
his account of Inca civilization was well known
and of considerable service to Prescott. ' The
War of Quito ' and ' The War of Las Salinas ' were
among the last contributions of Markham to the
Society, and ' The War of Chupas ' serves as a
supplement to them. The book deals with the
events immediately after the battle of Las
Salinas, with the fortunes and ultimate overthrow
of the Almagro faction, and ends with the
appointment of Blasco Nunez Vela. But the
main interest to the general reader lies in the
narrative of the murder of Pizarro by the " men
of Chile." The chronicler does not, as a rule,
show any marked sympathy with the conqueror,
only too often he reminds us of his coldness and
barbarity, but his courage he never calls in
question, and of his intrepidity and resolution at
the last he gives a moving picture. The narrative
is full of dramatic moments, and is told with a
directness and a freedom from digression which
do not always distinguish this historian.
Barbosa's account of his periplus in Indian
waters has long been known to readers of Ramusio ;
for it was included in his ' Navigation! e Viaggi '
published at Venice in 1563. To English readers
it was known in the edition of Lord Stanley,
prepared for the Society some forty years ago.
Unfortunately this translation was made from a
Spanish MS. in the library at Barcelona, and is
marred by inaccuracies. These have been cor-
rected in the present edition, which is an entirely
new translation by Mr. Longworth Dames of the
Portuguese MS. found at Lisbon in the early part
of the nineteenth century. But the excellence
of the book does not consist solely m the transla-
tion ; for it has been provided with copious foot-
notes, which, coming from such an authority as
Mr. Longworth Dames, are of great interest and
^Duarte Barbosa, was a man of good family in
the service of the Portuguese Government. He
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accompanied Pedro Alvarez Cabral in his ex-
pedition of 1500, and settled as a writer at Cochin
and afterwards at Cananor. Piqued at not
achieving the promotion his abilities warranted,
he returned to Portugal in 1517, and it was
probably during this voyage that the narrative
was compiled. On his return he joined Magel-
haes, his brother-in-law, in Seville, and set out
with him, Serrao, and other disappointed men on
his enterprise of 1519. He soon gave proofs of his
ability, became captain of one of the ships, and
fell soon after Magelhaes at the Isle of Sebu, a
victim of native treachery. This was ia 1521.
He was a remarkable man. He had that lust
for acquiring information which distinguishes the
greatest geographers, and combined with it a
faculty for minute observation of native lore and
custom. He was a remarkable linguist, and on
his first arrival in the East acquired proficiency
in Malay al am. This led to his employment by
Alboquerque as interpreter in his effort to convert
the King of Cochin — an abortive attempt.
A bibliography of books dealing with the early
history of India completes a volume which is
worthy of the Society's highest traditions.
Selections from James BoswelVs Life of Samuel
Johnson. Chosen and Edited by R. W. Chap-
man. (Oxford, Clarendon Press. 3s. 6d. net.)
DR. BIRKBECK HILL, Johnson's greatest editor,
published, it' we remember right, a selection of
Boswell's book : but it has been ?ome while out of
print. We noticed in June the collection of John-
sonian matter by Mr. S. C. Roberts. But the world
of readers cannot have too much of a wise and
noble master of life, like Johnson, and we welcome
Mr. Chapman's selections. His notes at the end
reveal his expertness and good taste, and his Pre-
face provides a firm and needed reduction of false
views of Boswell. M acaulay 's travesty and Carly le's
patronage are alike out of place. The world should
read Boswell, not his reviewers, and Johnson's
own writings. The great biography, as Mr. Chap-
man remarks, contains more than half a million
words; but what of that? It can betaken up
anywhere, and is the best of bedside books.
Mr. Chapman's selection should tempt many
readers to seek the mine whence these good things
come. No competent student of life and letters
can fail to perceive, for instance, the inimitable
way in which the meeting of Johnson and Wilkes
at dinner is told. Mr. Chapman has, how-
ever, not confined himself to brilliancies, but
given a fair record of letters and anecdotes which
are characteristic, but not sparkling. There are
people who think that because Johnson was the
greatest man of his time, he was perfect in every
wav and the greatest writer. We know his pre-
judices so well, thanks to Boswell, that we are apt
to think too much of them. Mr. Chapman has in-
eluded his remarks on soldiers and sailors. He
was very far from the typical John Bull in his
views of the latter. His intense desire for the
truth, and his standard in maintaining it, present
an ideal which many men in public life might well
follow to-day. His feelings about the Whigs re-
mind us of the distortions of history which have
been produced by that powerful sect of politicians.
The notes at the end are especially interesting,
and always to the point. Regarding extract 62
we think that Johnson knew much more about
mediaeval Latin than about ancient Greece.
yEsehylus (144) is almost above translation, but
'-.he versions of E. D. A. Morshead might have
been mentioned. We are glad to find Mr. Chap
man recording recent research in the metre of
prose, which is well illustrated (127). Mr. Chapman
does not annotate the use of orange peel which
Johnson would not give away to Boswell ; but we
think Dr. Birkbeck Hill discovered it.
The book has reproductions of two excellent
portraits, showing Reynolds's view of Johnson and
Dance's of Boswell, while Boswell's crest figures to*
advantage on the cover.
BOOKSELLERS' CATALOGUES.
WE have received from Messrs. Maggs Bros.
34 and 35 Conduit Street, New Bond Street, their
Catalogue No. 379 of Early English Literature,,
which comprises only poetical and prose works by
authors born prior to 1700, and contains 690 items-
of this description. The most interesting book
included seems to be a Chaucer manuscript of the-
Canterbury Tales, written during the first half of
the fifteenth century on 616 pages of vellum ; a
reproduction of a page of this is given in the cata-
logue. It is to be hoped that this manuscript may-
find a place in one of our great public libraries.
There are no less than 54 tracts and books referring
to Quakers, including a collection of 300 tracts and
broadsides by members of the Society of Friends,
published 1654-57, and bound in 9 volumes by
Bedford. The rarest book described is undoubtedly
the first edition of Skelfr n's complete poems, pub-
lished in 1568 "in Flete Streate neare unto Saint
Dunstones Churche." There was no copy in either
the Huth or Hoe Library. One of the "cokes""
contained in the volume is entitled " Speake
Parrot," and is chiefly aimed at Cardinal Wolsey.
"Bo-ho doth bark well, but Hough-ho he ruleth
the ring," is the burden of the poem, Bo-ho being
the king and Hongh-ho Woleey. Wolsey retaliated
by sending Skelton more than once to prison.
Skelton was the third English poet laureate.
Many other notable items are to be found
under the following headings : Witchcraft, Political
Economy, Newspapers, Medical and Military, Lon-
don, Ireland and Law, Queen Elizabeth, James I,
James II, Book of Common Prayer, Bibles, Charles
1, Charles II, Civil War and Commonwealth'
Some very interesting early grammars printed by
Caxton's successor Wynkyn de Worde are bound in
one volume and are described under No. 1620. The
catalogue, as all Messrs. Maggs's catalogues are, is
well printed, and there are not too many items on
one page. Many booksellers make the mistake of
overcrowding their pages, and it is refreshing to
meet with a catalogue that does not tire the eyes.
JSflifos to C0rastr0tt5enf*
WE cannot undertake to answer queries privately*
but we will forward advance proofs of answers
received if a shilling is sent with the query j
nor can we advise correspondents as to the value
of old books and other objects or as to the means of
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"grime " read grimr.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
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LONDON, AUGUST, 1919
C O N T E N T S. — No. 95.
*OTES:— The Peace Pageant on the Thanus, 197-
Marriage Entries in Duplicate, 198 — Incumbents and
Patrons of Bredwardine and Brobury, 200— Lewknor
Family, 201 — Shakespeariana, 202 — Marshal Foch's
Patronymic, 203 — Earl of Beacon sfi eld's Birthplace —
Early Maps — Early London Orphan Asylum, 204 —
Moresnet: Alleged Small Republic— Vinegar upon Nitre
—Plane Trees in London— " Lorribus "—Attention of a
Soul to the Corpse, 205— American Link with Winchester
—Curious Personal Names, 206.
iUERIES : — Huett Tomb — Sir Peter Denis — Chevalier
Peter Dillon— Cowap — Mediaeval Scientific MSS.,206 —
Duffus Family -F. Le Hardy, Miniature Painter— Shake-
speare Signatures— Mind, Memory, &c.— Divorce Cases:
List Wanted — Charles Russell - " Bambino " — John
Williams— Rev. Thomas Hugo, 207— Church of England
Marriage Service— Field-names— Hore, Artist : Robertson,
Miniaturist-Lowndes— Marshall, 208— Brewing Kimes—
George Street, Portman Square — William Anderson —
St. John Baptist Heads— Yeardye Family— Metal Mortars
— " Apochromatic "—Bernard de Mandeville, 209— Scum
of Democracy— Seven Kings— Charles Cooke, Bookseller
—Tobacco Pipes— Popular Fallacies— Ambassador— Bats :
Hair-Birds Poisoning Captives, 210— 'Albania '—Philip
Scot—' The Village Blacksmith '—Authors of Quotations
Wanted, 211.
JEPLIES :— Indentures, 211— Master Gunner, 212-Litera-
ture and Iconography of London Peace Celebrations, 213—
Reverie in Old Ratcliffe : Death of C*pt. John Weddell—
Queen Anne : the Sovereign's Veto : the Royal Assent, 214
— Mercury drawn by Cocks — New Chesterfield Letters
—Representations of the Blessed Trinity, 215— Fish-yard
— Inscriptions in St. John the Evangelist's, Waterloo
Road, 216— Norfolk Manuscripts—" Pro pelle cutem "—
Jack Straw and Wat Tyler, 217— Stanhope— Bibliography
of Epitaphs -Fund for Preserving Memorials of the Dead
in Ireland— Folk-Lore : Red Hair— Bluecoat Schools, 218
— "Argyles" — Lord Roberts : House in which he died—
Deacon in Love — Daudet's ' Jack,' 219— Bowshot: the
Longest— Kellond Surname 220— George Washington's
Wealth— Tilly Kettle — Proclamation Stones — Anguish
Street, 221 — The Million Bank— 'Mr. Howard '—" Let
the weak-st go to th« wall "— Dickens's Topographical
Slips — Boulogne : Registers and Epitaphs, 222 — Authors
of Quotations Wanted, 223.
iOTES ON BOOKS:— 'Supplement to the Letters of
Horace Walpole.'
Booksellers' Catalogues.
(BITUARY :-Richard Welford.
foiices to Correspondents.
'HE PEACE PAGEANT ON THE
THAMES.
SAST LONDON antiquaries, especially, and the
;reat Service of the ancient Brotherhood,
kiild, Corporation, and Admiralty annexe,
fhose homes are dispersed so generally over
he wide area of the modern Porfc of London,
rere gratified to observe that some pride of
•lace was justly and naturally given to
' Trinity " in the national Pageant on the
Thames on Aug. 4, 1919 ; and they only
egretted that the Royal Progress could not
ie extended to where so much English sea-
dventure is historically localized — to Old
Stepney and its maritime hamlets which
were long " the Nursery of English seamen."
The Spert monument in the south wall of
the chancel of Stepney Church (which has
been restored thrice at least by the records,
viz., in 1725, in 1806, and in 1894) sets out
that there, almost within sight of the famous
Ratcliff Cross and Stairs and but a stone's
throw from the Mansion House of the
Stuart and Georgian Trinity Corporation,
is laid the body of Sir Thomas Spert, kt.,
sometime Controller of the Navy to
Henry VIII., " and both the First Founder
and Master of the Worthie Societie or
Corporation called the Trinity House, who
died 8th September, 1541." To Spert the
Corporation of Trinity House erected this
memorial in 1622, " eighty yeares after the
decease of theyr Founder," when the
Trinity Guild and Fraternity had been
changed into the Corporation of the Trinity
House in official documents of the Brother-
hood, though not in the common parlance
on the Seven Seas. Metcalfe, in his * Book
of Knights,' states that Sir Thomas Spert
was among the " knight es made by ye Kinge
at York Place now called Whitehall, Anno
D'ni 1529, the 21st yere of his reigne."
There do not seem to be any in 1622 to
contest the claim for Thomas Spert as " of
Stebonheth " in domicile and citizenship, and
the Corporation's own memorial only fol-
lowed and replaced the monuments upraised
originally in Stepney Church by the founding
pilot's own, family. For Norden says,
writing of Stepney Church : —
" Sir Thomas Spert, Knight, s-ometime Comp-
troller of the Shipes tc H. 8, Dame Margery-
Dame Anne, and Dame Mary, his wives, lie in the
Chancell there."
By the Act passed in Queen Elizabeth's
eighth year (1566), enabling Trinity, among
other things, to grant licences to mariners to
on the River Thames, the Guild or
'raternity is described as
charged with the conduction of the Queens
Majesties Naval Royal, who are bound to foresee
the good increase and maintenance of ships most
meet for Her Majesties Marine Service."
This Act is revealing in other respects withal,
for it recites that "by the destroying and
taking away " of certain sea-marks on the
coast, "to the great detriment and hurt of
the Commonweal and the perishing of no
mall number of people, both home and
foreign trade was injured." Also that the
provision of licences to mariners to row on
the Thames had become necessary " the
better to keep and refrain themselves from
folly, idleness, and lewd company ; and for
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 S. V. AUG., 1919.
the relief of their wives and children."
Prior to this time, it seems, " wherrymen "
claimed and roughly exerted the sole right
of rowing on the river, and were in the habit
of molesting the private boats of both
English and foreign vessels. For this was a
period, as the Trinity official historian more
than hints, when there was a sort of Eliza-
bethan mariners — " of which the proper
designation should probably have been
pirates and the most fitting destination the
nearest yardarm — who infested the high
seas, being pests to the trading shipping of
both friend and foe alike." And there is
much evidence discoverable that to this
" fitting destination " the Trinity captains
faithfully remitted many rovers, native and
foreign, in the North Sea, in due pursuance
of their multifarious national duties.
It will be noticed' that when, on Aug. 5,
The Prime Minister was asked : —
" whether, in view of the fact that the East End of
London has always, since the Armistice, been left
out of official Peace Celebrations, Processions,
Triumphal Marches, and land and -water Pageants,
a reason could be given why the Great Pageant of
the 4th August could not have started opposite
Greenwich and Poplar, arid finished at Chelsea,
and thus have afforded a larger number of wounded
and war wrorkers an opportunity of viewing the
Royal Progress ; and, considering the amount of
war service done by the residents of the Eastern
portion of the Metropolis — quite apart from purely
historical associations — would the right honourable
gentleman see that the East End has its share in
any future official rejoicing?"
Mr. Bonar Law replied that the River
Pageant was
44 not part of the official Peace Celebrations,
although the Admiralty rendered every assistance
possible The factors governing the length of the
course were time, tide, land facilities, and the
fact that the principal boats were pulling boats,
which rendered any extension impracticable."
Me.
MARRIAGE ENTRIES IN DUPLICATE.
(See 11 S. viii. 410, 455.)
THE question of the reason for entries in
parish registers of marriages performed
elsewhere is a somewhat difficult one to
solve. In ths Clithsroe Registers there are
the following entries of this character : —
1692.
Mr Thomas Hooke of East Bradford and Mrs
Rebecca Pratt of Clitherowe were marryed att
Griadleton Chappell, Octob. 4th.
1695.
Edmund Taylor and Margarett Chapman, both
within the Chapelry of Waddington, were marryed
att Mitton, Novemb. 14.
1696.
Will™ Noblett of Mitton and Sarah Sorebutts
of the P'ish of Ribchester were marryed att
Grindleton Chappel, Octob. I8t.
These three entries are in the handwriting
of William Bankes, who was incumbent of
Clitheroe from 1672 to 1696. They are in
proper order of date among the marriages,
and would appear to have been entered at
or about the time the marriages were con-
tracted. It is possible that Bankes himself
performed the ceremony on each occasion,
as the churches of Grindleton and Mitton are
both near Clitheroe, and that he made the
entries in the Clitheroe Register as a record
of his own doings. I think this is the more
probable, because Bankes left Clitheroe for
the Vicarage of Mitton, and his last entry in
the Clitheroe Registers is in December, 1696.
On a blank page of the Registers, between
the end of the burials and the commencement
of the marriages (the latter of which in that
volume commence in 1681), there are the
following entries : —
Mr Will™ Bankes, Minisf of Chit hero we, and
Mrs. Elizab. Webster of Clitherowe, marryed by
Mr. Tho Slacke, Rector of Bolton juxta Bowland,
October y° 4th, 1686.
John King and Margarett Scott marryed June
25, 1695.
Mr John Lister of Clitherowe and Anne Swingle-
hurst of Clitherowe were marryed Octob. 2, 1682.
Mr John Taylor of Chatborn and Ann Fountain
of Linton married July yc 4th, 1717-
It should be noted that Chatburn is in the
parochial chapelry of Clitheroe.
The first three of these entries are in the
handwriting of Bankes. The last entry is in
that of Thomas Taylor, who was incumbent
of Clitheroe from 1701 to 1737. The first
entry, singularly enough, is that of the
marriage of Bankes himself. There is no
entry of this marriage in the Bolton-by-
Bowland register, so that it apparently did
not take place there. The entries were cer-
tainly not made contemporaneously with the
marriages themselves, as they are not in
order of date. It is hard to think they were
marriages performed at Clitheroe, and for-
gotten to be entered at the proper time, and
then recollected arid entered years after-
wards. Surely Bankes, as the incumbent of
Clitheroe, would have taken care that his
own marriage was entered in due course
among the other marriages of the year in its
proper place ; and we can hardly imagine
that Lister's marriage in 1682 (which is
entered after King's marriage of 1695), if it
took place at Clitheroe, was only entered in
the register thirteen years at least after the
event. Moreover, if these marriages had
28. V. AUG., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
199
m performed at Clitheroe and forgotten
be entered at the time, they would most
)bably have been interlined among the
.rriages of the appropriate year, instead
being entered by themselves in a separate
,ce. They appear to me to be memoranda
marriages that had taken place elsewhere,
which it was desirable to keep a record in
? place where the parties lived.
A reason for this is not far to seek, for at
3 period to which these entries relate, and
years afterwards, the Church of England,
•ough the Ecclesiastical Courts, exercised
control over the morals of the people.
By the 109th Canon, " if any offend their
sthren either by adultery, whoredom,
jest, or drunkenness, or by swearing,
»baldry, usury, or any other uncleanness
d wickedness of life," the churchwardens
9 enj.oined to present them to their
•dinaries. And by the 113th Canon, which
ites that churchwardens, " either through
a,r of their superiors, or through negligence"
ben neglect their duties in this respect,
e minister is empowered to join the church-
irdens in their presentments, or, if the
.urchwardens will not present, then the
inisters are empowered to do so themselves.
tnon 115 clearly recognizes the duty of
inisters and churchwardens to present not
dy the crimes and disorders committed by
iminous persons in their parishes, but also
the common fame which is spread abroad
them " — in other words, local gossip and
:tle-tattle.
These canons were frequently acted on
id offenders presented to the Ecclesiastical
>urts ; and if the charges were sustained,the
lilty parties were ordered to do penance, or,
the case were serious, excommunicated,
he working of the system is illustrated by
le following entry in the Clitheroe Church -
ardens' Accounts for 1669 : —
. Mch 18. Itm, spent at Airton's in attend-
ice of Mr. Driver, to know -whether hee was
arryed or noe, ffor the discharge of the minister
id churchwardens ... ... ... 006
There was apparently some scandal about
[r. Driver. It was probably whispered
naong the gossips of the town that he and
le lady he called Mrs. Driver had not been
'gaily made man and wife. In order,
lerefore, to discharge their consciences, and
aable them to decide whether they must
^.ke action under the canons, they sent for
j[r. Driver to the alehouse, and over six-
ennyworth of small beer got his explanation
!" the matter.
>r 1669 we
On turning to the Register
find the following entries
William Brigge and Elizabeth Lord marryed the
19th of October.
MrBernerd Driver and Bridgett Ffarrer marryed
the 26 of Sep. by License from Chester, 1669.
Marriages in Anno. 1670.
James Crooke and Ellen Hindle marryed the
third day of July.
As at this period the year began on
March 25, the 18th of March, 1669, when the
interview with Mr. Driver took place, was
the 18th of March, 1670, according to the
present reckoning. It is therefore clear that
"he entry of his marriage in the register could
not have been made at the date of the inter-
view, or there would have been no need to
interview him ; and if the marriage had
taken place at Clitheroe, every one would
have known about it. The interview must
have resulted in Driver furnishing satis-
factory evidence that he was legally married,
and to set the matter at rest the minister
must have entered the marriage in the
Register, which, it will be seen, he was able
to do only a little out of proper order.
Curiously enough, there is another case
of a somewhat similar character in the
Clitheroe Registers. In a blank space under
a list of what he calls " Publications of
Marriages " (but which is evidently a list of
the publications of banns) during the year
1675 Bankes has made the following entry : —
Ch. K. and J. Du sayd they were marryed ffeb.
ye 14th, 1680, but I never had any testimoniall
thereof brought. Willm Bankes.
Not content with this, at the end of the
marriages for 1680 (which was the end of
the marriages in that volume) Bankes has
written again : —
Christopher Kendall and Jennett Dugdall sayd
they were marryed ffebuary the 14th, 1680, but I
never had any testimoniall thereof brought.
Will"1 Bankes.
Then comes the following entry by Thomas
Taylor, who became incumbent in 1701 : —
May ye 20th, 1704.
I received a testimoniall from ye Reverend Mr.
Phillipson, now Vicar of Almondbury, yt ye above
mentioned Christopher Kendall and Jennet Dug-
dall were marryed Feb. ye 14, 1680, as above
Witness my hand,
Witness also Tho. Taylor,
Richard Dugdale. Minr of Clithero.
There may have been more reasons than
one that led to duplicate entries of marriages,
but I think it is pretty clear that in many
cases they were intended to preserve a-
record of the marriage in the register of the
parish where the parties lived, in order to
prevent scandal, and to save trouble to the
church officers, and annoyance to the parties
concerned.
wards the end of the marriages in 1669 : — Westwood, Clitheroe.
WM. SELF WEEKS.
200
NOTES AND QUERIES.
. v. ACO.. mm
INCUMBENTS AND PATRONS OF
Vicars. Patrons.
18oO Newton Dickinson Rev. N. D. H. New
BREDWARDINE AND BROBURY,
Hand Newton ton
HEREFORD.
1854 William Newton (Patronage vested ii
the Newton famil-
BOTH churches were built early in the
until 1918, when i
Norman period at dates unknown. The two
parishes were united by an Order in Council
lapsed pro tempor\
to the Bishop.)
1862 Samuel Clark
in 1851. In 1873 the dilapidated nave of
1871 John Houseman
Brobury Church was demolished, and the
1877 Robert Francis Kil-
chancel converted into a mortuary chapel.
Bredwardine thus became the parish church
vert
1879 Henry Trevor Wil-
lictrnson
for both parishes.
1909 Owen Randal Slacke
The following lists are compiled from
1911 James Jobling
(a) Episcopal Registers (Hereford), pub-
1918 Herbert Fuller Bright Bishop of Hereford
lished by the Cantilupe Society, the com-
Compston
pletion of which series will help to fill up
(38 names.)
some gaps in the lists ; (b) the parish registers
RECTORS OF ST. MARY MAGDALENE, BROBURY.
(Bredwardine from 1723, Brobury from
Rectors. Patrons.
1786) ; (c) notes of a paper published in The
1305 Peter de Brockbury William de BrocE
Ross Gazette by the late Canon Phillott and
bury (i.e. Bra
kindly sent me by my predecessor, Pre-
bury. The nan*
bendary H. T. Williamson ; (d) Duncomb's
occurs in variou
' History of Hereford ' (Cooke's continuation)
for Brobury only (an inaccurate and in-
forms.)
1325 Thomas of Bosbury \ , ~-K ,
1329 Walter de Marstone )Wm- de Brockburj
complete list). I am also indebted to Canon
1366 Robert de la Mare Simon de Brockburj
Bannister for some facts and verifications.
j 1372 John Caundile \-nr-ii-
1391 Richard Bron Bene /William Seymour
VICARS OF ST. ANDREW'S, BREDWARDINE.
1421 Philip Clad Sir John Baskervilll
Vicars. Patrons.
(Guardian of Rogei
1277 Walter de Middleton Abbot and G'onvent
of Wigmore (Wig-
m ore held the
advowson up to
Seymore's heir.) ]
1423 Thomas Warde \Tnhn Hevmore
1436 John Forgvs
1440 Griffin ap David Bishop of Hereford
its dissolution in
1537.)
(by lapse)
1444 Lewis ap Jevan Sir John Seymore
1332 Walter Heys
1369 William Kemmus
? Lewis Jones
1482 Walter Hygins Bishop of Hereford!
? John Marske
13TO \Villiciin (.AH toys
1371 Richard Palmore
1371 Thomas Martyn
1375 Thomas Wymaston
1524 David ap Lewes ) c- T,VK« ««^
1529 Richard Pvtt }Sir John Seymore j
1561 John Owgan (In 1565 John Scudamorj
permitted to hold (of Holm Lacy]
Brobury along with and J ames Warnej
Holrner and St. comb
1.3QO Jon.ni \Vyvc
1396 John Poore de Black-
in. 01*0
1398 William Pontesbury
Mary, Staines.)
1416 William Tynkere
1569 John Williams
1420 John Smyth
1421 John Walter
1432 Walter Russel
1456 Matthew Mason
1462 John Persy vale
? Laurence ap Harry
1506 Philip Vayne
? Joshua Molde
1572 Richard Browne
1601 George Bannister
1613 Edward Francis
1618 Edward James
1629 Thomas Reading \ John, Viscount
1637 Robert Tetlowe / Scudamore
1664 John Stilling Thomas Bennet
? Thomas Aubrey (See
1542 James Tern King Henry VIII.
also under Brewar-
1557 Roger Browne John Walwyn
1616c.Richard Brampton
? John Stilling
1671 Thomas Aubrey
(d. 1709)
dine, 1671-1680.)
1681 John Stilling (jun. ?) \JohnScudamoreanJ
1694 Benjamin Griffith / Viscount Sligo
1702 Francis Harris \Rev. W. Harris, V,
1709 Higgins Harris f of Bredwardine
1680 William Harris
1751 Samuel Prosser Exors. of Anne
1731 Higgins Harris William Brydges
1751 Samuel Prosser Exors. of Anne
Wright
Wright
1789 James Beebee Mary Beebee
1816 Will Tylnev Spurdens Rev. W. T. Spurdens
1789 James Beebee Mary Beebee
1830 Newton Dickinson Rev. N. D. H. New-
1816 Will Tylney Spurdens Rev. W. T. Spurdens
Hand Newton ton
2 8. V. AUG., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
201
For subsequent rectors, making 42 names
all, see list of Vicars of Bredwardine, the
fishes having been united in 1851.
[ should be grateful for any corrections,
nments, or additions.
H. F. B. COMPSTON.
Bredwardine Vicarage, Hereford.
LEWKNOR FAMILY.
7 Edward I. Roger de Lewkenor claimed
d had the manor of Horstede, i.e., Horsted
jynes, in Sussex, which he and his an-
stors had owned from time immemorial
Sussex Archaeological Collections,' iii. 91).
Mr. Weekley in his ' Romance of Names '
, 100) has : " Lukner, Du. Luykenaar,
Ein from Liege."
The best pedigree is in the volume of
iussex Archaeological Collections ' above
;ed, and was compiled by William Durrant
ioper, F.S.A. Charles Henry Cooper in
Lthenae Cantabrigienses,' i. 251, expressed
e opinion that Edmund Lewkenor (B.A.,
62/3, Fellow of St. John's College, Cam-
idge, Mar. 31, 1563), was probably a
•unger son of Edward Lewkenor, groom-
-rter, who was implicated in Sir Thomas
yatt's rebellion, and died in the Tower of
>ndon in 1556 : but this seems impossible
)m a perusal of W. D. Cooper's pedigree
id introductory notes. He was much
ore likely a brother of Thomas Lewknor,
:amined as a suspected Papist Mar. 24,
176, M.P. for Midhurst 1586 and 1588,
id of Richard Lewknor of West Dean,
lief Justice of Wales, and son of Edmund
3wknor of Fyning Manor in the parish of
ogate. Nevertheless, C. H. Cooper's sug-
>stion has been accepted with a query by
Dster in his ' Alumni Oxonienses,' and by
oase in his ' Registrum Collegii Exoniensis,'
3. 74, 75.
Edmund Lewknor commenced M.A. at
imbridge in 1565, but before taking that
3gree migrated to Exeter College, Oxford
. 1566, as one of the original Fellows on
r William Petre's foundation, and took
le degree of M.A. in 1567. Among his
npils there were Thomas and John Gerard
>ns of Sir Thomas Gerard, of Bryn, Lanes
.t., the former of whom became a baronei
L 1611, and the fatter a Jesuit in 1588
he latter writes in his autobiography
F. Morris, ' The Condition of Catholics under
ames I. ' p. xi) : —
" At the age of fifteen I was sent to Exeter
allege, Oxford, where my tutor was a certain
Hr. Leukner, a good and learned man, and a
Catholic in mind and heart. There however I did
not stay more than a twelvemonth, as at Easter
the heretics sought to force us to attend their
worship, and to partake of their counterfeit
sacrament. I returned then with my brother to
ny father's house, whither Mr. Leukner himself
soon followed us, being resolved to live as a
atholic in very deed, and not merely in desire .
While there, he superintended our Latin studies
!or the next two years, but afterwards going to
Belgium, he lived and died there most holily."
Edmund Lewknor resigned his fellowship
in 1577, being then Vice -Rector of the
College.
On June 5, 1579, he arrived at the English
College at Rheims, and received the first
tonsure, minor orders, and the subdiaconate
at Laon, Sept. 20, 1579, the diaconate at
Rheims at the hands of Mgr. Cosine Clausse
de Marchaumort, Bishop of Chalons-sur-
Marne, Mar. 19, and the priesthood at
Soissons between May 25 and 29, 1580, and
he said his first mass in the Church of St.
Etienne, Rheims, June 16, 1580. He became
lecturer on the Catechism in 1585, and
apparently continued in that office except
for a short holiday in August, 1589, until he
left. In December, 1588 he was au-
thorized to hear the confessions of all
English people of either sex. In May and
June, 1590, he gave a seven weeks' course
of lectures in logic to the older students.
On Aug. 8, 1593, he set out for Douay, and
matriculated at the University there in
April, 1594 (see Knox, ' Douay Diaries,'
passim). He seems to have been the writer
of the latter portion of the ' Second Diary '
which came to an end in 1593 (see ' Cath.
Rec. Soc. ' vol. x. p. 1, &c.). Boase ten-
tatively ascribes to him ' The Estate of the
English Fugitives, 1591,' printed in ' Sadler
Papers ' ii. 478. Is it known when he died ?
Nicholas Lewkenor entered Winchester
College aged 13, from Broadwater, Sussex,
in 1529. Possibly he was the illegitimate
son of John Lewkenor who was parson of
Broadwater 12 Henry VII. Is anything
known of him ? The Bursar of Winchester
College has kindly sent me the following
notes about the Winchester scholar George
Lewkner : —
1. Winchester College Register : " Nomina
Scholarium admissorum Ao Dni 1556. [7th
name :] Georgius Lewkner de Tangmer, xij
Anno rum in festo Omnium Sanctorum preterite,
dioc.] Cichestrensis. [Marginal note :] rec.
Oxon."
2. " Liber Successionis et Dignitatis " (compiled
from New College records), under year 1562 (the
date is of admission to Fellowship after two years
of probation): "Jan. 29 [i.e., 1562/3] Georg.
Lukener [alias] Lewkener, De villa Tagmer [sic for
202
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 S. V. AUG., 1919.
Tangmer], com. Sussex. [Ceased to be Fellow]
1570. [Degreel Artium Bacc."
3. Boase, ' Register of the University of
Oxford ' (Oxford Hist. Soc.), vol. i. (1885), p. 254 :
" Lewkner or Lukener, George, adm. B.A.
24 Mar. 156|, det. [i.e., "determined," that is,
" presided over disputations, and gave out his
determination or decision on the questions dis-
cussed," as every man admitted as B.A. was
expected to do in the Lent after his admission]
1565 — adm. probationary Fellow of New College
29 Jan. 1560 [i.e., say I, 1560 /I] from Tagmer [sic]
in Sussex, res. 1570 ; a doctor of medicine [but
Boase does not state his authority for saying that
this George Lewkner was " doctor of medicine "]."
I have been unable to ascertain when one
George Lewknor abtained his degree of M.D.
However, assuming him. to have taken it
somewhere abroad it is possible that he
should be identified with the father of a
nun of St. Monica's, Louvain. The Chronicle
of St. Monica's, vol. ii. (edited by Dom.
Adam Hamilton, O.S.B. and published by
Sands & Co. in 1906), at p. 39 says that
Sister Margaret Lutnor (Lewkenor) was
professed on Oct. 4, 1626, and that she was
" daughter unto George Lukner, of an ancient
noble house, but a younger brother. He under-
took the course of law, and was Doctor of the
Civil Law, but finding in time that he could not
well live thereby in England, being a Catholic, he
was content to become a doctor of physic, &c."
It adds (p. 40) that her father dying about
1626, when she was 28, " of his free will
gave her a portion for religion, she having
nothing of her own." Sister Margaret
Lewkenor died Mar. 6, 1644, " at the age
of 46 years and eighteen of her profession"
(pp. 196-7).
Samuel Lewknor entered Winchester Col-
lege in 1584, aged 11, from Selsey. Though
not in the pedigree, he was probably a son
of the Thomas Lewknor, M.P. for Midhurst
in 1586 and 1588, mentioned above : and a
brother of Sir Lewis Lewknor (M.P. for
Midhurst, 1597, and appointed Master of
Ceremonies to Ambassadors, Nov. 11, 1605).
Thomas Lewknor, the Jesuit (as to whom
see Foley, ' Records S. J.,' vol. ii. p. 636,
vol. vii. pp. 454, 924) belonged to the West
Dean branch of the family and his father
held a high place at court. He was born at
Antwerp in 1588, entered the Society of
Jesus in 1611, was employed from 1625 to
1645 on the English mission, and died in
London, aged 57. I should conjecture that
he was a son of Richard Lewknor, of West
Dean, Chief Justice of Wales, above men
tioned.
Is there any evidence that this Richard
Lewknor' s wife was a Catholic ?
JOHN B. WAINEWKIGHT.
SHAKESPEARIANA.
A BATCH OF EMENDATIONS. — ' Tempest/1
I. ii. : —
Who t' advance, and who
To trash for over-topping.
Much ingenuity has been wasted in attempts
to twist a meaning out of trash. The
Restoration arrangement by Davenant and.
Dryden substituted lop. A much more
satisfactory word is plash.
' 1 Henry IV.,' II. i. : —
Bourgom asters and great Oneyers.
The right word is plainly indicated by the
opening scene of ' Merchant of Venice,
line 10: —
Like signiors and rich burghers on the flood.
We need have no hesitation in adopting the
reading
Burgomasters and great signiors.
' King Lear,' I. ii. (from the Quartos) : —
" Needless diffidences, banishment of friends
dissipation of Cohorts, nuptial breaches, anc
I know not what."
Somewhere in Elizabethan literature — un-
fortunately I did not note where — I met
with a phrase which explains the difficulty
" dissipation of contracts."
These three emendations, plash, sicpiiors
contracts, I think deserve admission into
the text. Here are also some attempts to
explain obscurities.
' Measure for Measure,' II. ii. : —
But man, proud man
Brest in a little briefe authoritie ;
Most ignorant of what he's most assurTd,
(His glassie Essence) like an angry Ape
Plaies such phantastique tricks before high heaven
As makes the Angels weepe.
This I formerly thought to be the most
hopeless misprint in all Shakespeare ; possi-
bly I have at last hit upon the general idea
on which the simile is based. The reference
is apparently to an ape being angered by
seeing his reflection in a looking-glass. The
best emendation I can offer is
His glassed semblance.
Shakespearian students may be able to
improve upon this ; but I fear a line has
dropped out. There may have been a
semicolon in the middle of the missing line,
after a verb ; the whole sentence having
constructional analogies with Hamlet's sen-
tence on the " vicious moles of nature."
'1 Henry IV., 'II. iv. :-
Gads. Some sixe or seven fresh men set upon us.
Fal. " And unbound the rest, and then came*
in the other."
12 S. V. AUG., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
203
ralstaff more probably said came on (all)
ogether. Came in yet others, though further
rom the original text, deserves con-
ideration.
In the same scene occur the two mis-
•rints " pitiful -hearted Titan," and elf skin,
orrected by Theobald and Hanmer to
' pitiful -hearted butter " and eelskin. They
•re both adopted in Dyce's edition ; I did
iot know this when I put forward Theo-
>ald's suggestion at 10 S. vi. 504. Nat.
Weld's * Woman is a Weathercock,' I. ii.,
•nd Fletcher's 'Women Pleased,' III. ii.,
ustify Hanmer.
' Tempest,' V. i., Ariel's song : —
On the bat's back I do -fly
After summer, merrily.
something is wrong ; Theobald proposed
fter sunset, which has been generally fol-
3wed. The Davenant - Dryden version
;ives : —
On the swallow' 's wing I fly
After summer, merrily.
"his version has been overlooked ; and
ven in the ' Variorum Shakespeare ' it
[oes not appear.
Trembling for the consequences, I send a
uggestion for the text of the entire song ;
a sheer timidity I have long kept it un-
written, but have finally screwed my
ourage to the sticking-place, and here
; is : —
Where the bee sucks, there (suck) I ;
Ic a cowslip's bell I lie ;
On the bat's back I do fly,
There I couch when owls dp cry.
On the swallow's wing I hie,
After summer, merrily.
"he two^ versions are thus united ; and the
ourth line of the original put before the
bird. Otherwise the only addition is hie.
n the first line, neither suck, as in the Folio,
or the popular emendation lurk, is quite
on vine ing..
' Macbeth,' I. i. — How many readers have
ny conception of the exact meaning of the
oncluding lines ? The couplet
Faire Is foule, and foule is faire,
Hover through the fogge and filthie ayre,
onveys no distinct idea ; and equally
bscure are Macbeth' s first words in I. iii. : —
So foule and faire a day I have not seene.
>avenant's arrangement has : —
For us fair iceather's foul, and. foul is fair ;
Hover through the foggy filthy air.
'he witches have " wound up " a charm
afore Macbeth and Banquo enter. It
ppears to me that in both scenes Shake -
Dear© directed that the witches should
raise a sudden darkness, an effect required
in several contemporary dramas.
' Romeo and Juliet,' III. ii. : —
Spread thy close curtain, love-performing night I
That runnaweyes eyes may wincke ; and Romeo
Leap to these arms, untalkt of, and unseen !
The emendations sunne-a-weary and un-
awares, proposed for this famous difficulty,
have not been accepted : one is too com-
plicated, one too trivial. Here again a
Restoration arrangement gives some help.
Otway, in ' Caius Marius ' (1680), uses the
speech ; he substitutes "jealous eyes,"
making at least good sense of the line.
I hardly think jealous is the right word, and
perhaps Shakespeare wrote two words ; but
I prefer jealous to any emendation found so
far.
Davenant' s and the other Restoration
acting versions of Shakespeare are com-
monly decried, and with full justice, for
their needless alterations and objectionable
additions ; but let it not be forgotten that
Davenant knew Shakespeare, and that the
leading tragedian of his company was
Charles Hart, grandson of Shakespeare's
sister Joan ; and further, that both Davenant
and Hart had been connected with the stage
even before the Civil War. On textual
questions the Restoration arrangements
claim examination. The operatic perver-
sion of ' Measure for Measure,' for which
Oldmixon wrote a prologue in 1700, alters
Isabella's speech wildly enough ; but it
suggested to me the explanation I have
given above. H. DAVEY.
MARSHAL FOCH'S PATRONYMIC. — Some
time ago it was stated that the late Com-
mander-in-Chief of the Allied Army, like
the famous American admiral of the Civil
War, David Glasgow Farragut, was of
Spanish extraction ; though in neither case
would the name be thought to betray an
Iberian origin.
Prof. Weekley in his ' Surnames ' (pp. 46—
282) connects the French general's name
with Fulke, Foulkes, Vokes, Fogg, Fochier,
and Fouche, through the Latin Fulcher ;
\vhich I take to be a false attribution. On
the' other hand in Larchey's ' Dictionnaire
des Noms,' the personal names, Focke and
Focas, are associated with that of Phocas, a
martyr of the fourth century, who was
subsequently canonised.
The true derivation of this now all-
important surname is, I think, best indicated
by M. Raymond Recouly in his newly-
published monograph on the career of the
204
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. v. A™., 1919.
French general, as coming from fwch, a
patois word of the Haute Garonne, which
signifies "fire." The locality in question
being close to/ the Pyrenees, this dialect
term is ostensibly nothing more than a
variant of Catalonian fog, Span, fuego, FT.
feu, Port, fogo, Ital. fuoco, Prov. foes,
Roum. foe, from Lat. fccus, a hearth : a
philological consummation devoutly to be
wished in view of the fact that the attribute,
ardour, is in an especial degree appropriate
to the mentality of the great French soldier,
whose well-laid plans eventually overcame
the deep designs and pretentious claims of
Prussian militarism. N. W. HILL.
THE EARL OF BEACONSFIELD'S BIRTH-
PLACE.— Monypenny's 'Life' (1910), says
that Isaac D' Israeli, who had been living in
chambers in James Street, Adelphi, moved
to King's Road, Bedford Row, on his
marriage, and there his eldest son Benjamin
was born ; a foot-note stating that the
house is now 22 Theobalds Road, and that,
oddly enough, Lord Beaconsfield seemed
never to have been certain either of the
place or the year in which it occurred. An
editorial note in ' N. & Q.', 6 S. iii. 360
(1881), states that the date Dec. 21, 1804,
had been fixed, " but not so the number of
the house in the Adelphi where the late peer
was born." The ' D.N.B.' gives 6 John
Street, Bedford Row, as the birthplace. In
' The Life and Reminiscences of E. L.
Blanchard,' 1891, Blanchard thus spoke or
wrote of 6 Adelphi Terrace (where he lived
from 1876 to 1889), p. 631 :—
Isaac DTsraeli was lodging in an adjoining street
where, his wife being near her confinement, the
doctor advised a removal to a house where a better
view and fresher air could be obtained. D'Israeli
came to this house, and it was in this very room
that the statesman was born."
And on p. 600 referring to " his own room
on the third floor," Blanchard says : —
*' We are sitting now on the site of Durham
House, where Raleigh smoked his first pipe in
England. It was in this very room that Benjamin
Disraeli was born, just eighty years ago."
The second of these two extracts seems
to have appeared in The World in December,
1886, and the first of them in The Star in
February, 1889.
Unless better evidence has been forth-
coming, can the officially-placed tablet
which now commemorates the house in
Theobald's Road be implicitly relied upon ?
W. B. H.
[See also 6 S. x. 310, 363 ; 7 S. iii. 441 ; 9 S. iv.
895, 526; 10 S. vi. 357; 11 S. viii. 119.]
EARLY MAPS. — The following paragraph,.
which is cited from Scientific America^
May 31, 1919, urder the heading of ' Science,*"
p. 569 (Munn & Co., New York), seems:
perhaps worth reproduction in 'N. & Q.' :— n
THE EARLIEST PLAN OF NEW YORK.
Dr. F. C. Wieder, of the Royal Netherlands.
Geographical Society, who has recently carried'
out extensive investigations concerning early
explorations of the region about the present site-
of New York city, has brought to light an earlier!
plan of New York than any previously known-
According to an account of this discovery pub-
ished in The Geographical Journal the map-
appears to have been based on a survey made in
1660, and shows a regular series of intercrossing"
streets, proving that even at that period, though-
few houses had been erected, the whole plan of
the City had been laid out, even to the modern!
" townships." This map, which was found at
the Villa Castello in Florence, is the only one thus
far known dating from the period of L>utchJ
sovereignty on Manhattan Island. The so-ealled
" Duke's plan," preserved in the British Museum J
formerly the earliest one known,, appears to bferj
in fact, only an inferior British copy of the Dutch.]
map'"
FRED L. TAVAHE.
22 Trentham Street, Pendleton, Manchester.
.
EARLY LONDON ORPHAN ASYLUM. —
April, 1917, a London bookseller had f
sale an unfamiliar pamphlet : —
" London's Charity Inlarged, stilling the orphan's
cry, by the liberality of the Parliament, in grant-
ing two houses by Act, and giving a thousand
pounds towards the work for the employment of
the poor and Education of poor children, by S. H.,
etc., small 4to, pp. 22. London, 1650."
Failing the opportunity of purchasing or\
examining this, I can only infer it refers to j
an early form of orphan asylum, and ifrj
therefore pre-dates the pamphlet describing
" the General Nursery or Colledg of Infants
set up by the Justices of Peace " in part of
the Corporation Workhouse at ClerkenwelL
This pamphlet, small 4to, 16 pp. (including
title) was licensed Oct. 13, 1686r and printed
by R. Roberts. I am indebted to Mr. F~
Marcham for sight of the pamphlet and
much useful data relating to it. Sir Thomas
Rowe was entrusted with the care thereof,,
and apparently (Middlesex Sessions Books,.
1689-1709, pp. 13, 66, 74/5, 125, 126, 156,
165) he conveyed Ms estates as security for
this trusteeship. Ultimately, the children
were removed to Hornsey. In the fact
that these two proposals provided for
boarding the children gratuitously, they
were more than mere charity schools, and *
distinct advance upon W. Blake's ' Silver
Drops or a Serious Thing,' an account o£
a Highgate Ladies' School, 1685.
ALECK ABRAHAMS*.
2 S. V. AUG., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
205
MORESNET : ALLEGED SMALL REPUBLIC.
ee 12 S. i. 42, 129, 195, 258.)— At the first
'eren.ce I quoted a letter in The Standard
June 2, 1896, in which the writer mentioned
Dresnet as a "miniature republic." I
ve an extract from The Times of Aug. 25,
03., which showed that it was not a
public, but rather a small territory " under
e condominion of Belgium and Prussia,"
subject to a joint administration, pending
final settlement." This presumably final
ttlement lias been arrived at by the
•eaty -of Peace, partiii., articles 32 and
'Germany recognizes the full sovereignty of
Igium over the whole of the contested territory
Moresnet (called Moresnet neutre)."
' Germany renounces in favour of Belgium all
;hts and title over the territory of Prussian
Dresnet situated on the west of the road from
ege to Aix-la-Chapelle ; the road will belong to
Igimn where it Ibounds this territory."
e Supplement oiThe Times, June 28, 1919.
ROBERT PIERPOINT.
VINEGAR UPON NITRE. — Compared in
•ov. -xxv. 20 to disturbing actions. The
nitre " vhere referred to is not saltpetre, on
lich vinegar lias no effect, but carbonate
soda, known as " washing soda," on
licli vinegar produces a violent efferves-
ace. R.V. gives " soda " as an alter-
,tive rendering, but that ought to be the
.ly one. "Nitre," L. nitrum, Gr. virpov,
sb. nether, used at first to denote native
dium carbonate or natron, but since about
33 potassium nitrate or saltpetre. So
Jer. ii. 22, " though thou wash me with
bre " (TLV. lye), " with soda " would be
jht now, and be generally " understanded
the people." J. T. F.
iVinterton, 'Lraca.
PLANE TREES IN LONDON. — Plane trees
,ve been €iccused (without definite proof)
being agents in spreading colds, &c. ;
is said trhat their minute spicules, which
>at in tlie air in dry spring weather, act as
•itants of the nose and throat. The plane
a native of a region of scorching summers,
id the sun's heat in London is reflected
Dm buildings and streets ; it is late in
ifing, thus escaping the spring frosts ;
.d its bark is shed periodically. For these
isons it is an excellent tree for towns,
lere are many fine examples in London,
e best known being the one in the old
urchyard of St. Peter in Chepe, at the
rner of Wood Street, which probably
ggested Wordsworth's ' Reverie of Poor
isan.' Amy Levy's poem ' A London
Plane Tree ' must not be forgotten, and Dr.
Manette had a fine example in his wonderful
old echoing garden in Soho.
The April number of the Proceedings of
the Royal Irish Academy contains an
article entitled ' The History of the London
Plane, Platanus acerijolia,' by Augustine
Henry and Margaret G. Flood. The biblio-
graphy of the subject is extensive (un-
fortunately not included by Dr. Henry),
and mention may be made of a paper by
George Nicholson in ' Woods and Forests,'
vol. i. p. 346, and an article by Henry
English in The Daily News and Leader,
Aug. 13, 1917. J. ARDAGH.
" LORRIBTJS," " LORRIBTJSES." — The words
" lorribus " and " lorribuses " have found
their way into print this month (June),
probably for the first time, and it may be
useful to place this on record. Journalists
have used these words in connection with
the conversion of the large War Depaitment
motor lorries into passenger-carrying vehi-
cles. These are now plying for hire on the
London streets, to relieve the congested
condition of the tubes, trains, trams, and
other public conveyances.
ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
ATTENTION OF A SOUL TO THE CORPSE. —
Fresh to me is the psychological fancy that
as long as a corpse remains unburied the
released soul pays it a visit once in ^ every
twenty-four hours. This is what I pick up
from p. 73 of Mrs. Romanes's ' The Story of
an English Sister' : —
" At one of our luncheon parties, Lord Halifax
told us the following story. Two ladies (I think
he knew them) had been hunting somewhere in
Lincolnshire, and after the run they gave their
horses to a groom and hired a gig. Presently
they got to a bridge and saw a man looking very-
tired, so they either offered him a lift or he asked
for one. Presently they came to an inn, and
without any thanks he got off the back seat and
made his way into the inn, round which a small
crowd had gathered. The landlord came out
to them, and as he came out the man brushed
close past him. So they, a little bit vexed at
the roan's want of manners, asked who the man
was. The landlord said he had seen no one.
' Oh, yes,' they said, ' you must have seen him,
and they began to describe the man. The land-
lord grew very puzzled and said : ' Please will
you come into the house for a minute ? So
they went into the inn, and the landlord took
them into a room where on the bed lay the man
whom they had seen— dead. ' This is the body
of a man who was drowned,' said the landlord.
' His body has just been found and we are await-
ing the coroner.' But the cream of the story is
yet to come. Lord Halifax was driving across
a moor with only a servant, so he began talking
to him and presently told him this story : where-
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upon the man said, ' Of course, you know what this
was, my Lord. It was his soul visiting the man's
body. The soul of a dead person always visits
the body every twenty-four hours until burial.' "
To turn from the spiritual to the material :
ever a gig a " back-seat " ?
ST. SWITHIN.
AMERICAN LINK WITH WINCHESTER. —
While searching the city archives of Win-
chester I came across this entry in the
Winchester Coffer Book, which may appeal
to those who collect historical and genea-
logical data. : —
" 1625, 30th December. Taken from the
(city) cofers Thirty shillings, for the apparelling
of six poor boys that went to Virginia."
Unfortunately rames are not given. So far
r,s the expenditure went, those were cer-
tainly " good old days," as compared with
present prices for clothes, if the boys got a
fair supply at five shillings each.
WM. JAGGARD, Capt.
Records J3 Bepat. Camp, Winchester.
CURIOUS PERSONAL NAMES. — The follow-
ing female telephonists appear among a list
of persons appointed by the Admiralty, as
set out in The London Gazette of July 4,
1919 : Lady-smith Shamrock and Thistle
Dijon. W. C. J.
Union Club.
WE must request correspondents desiring in-
formation on family matters of only private interest
to affix their names and addresses to their queries,
in order that answers may be sent to them direct.
HUETT TOMB, MILLBROOK. (See 2 S'
vi. 246, 294, 331.) — This tomb which appears
to have been destroyed and buried in 1858
was rediscovered on April 11, 1919, and the
figures and portions of the tomb placed in a
temporary position in the church ; but it
appears from the excellent description of
the tomb in ' N. & Q.,' Oct. 9, 1858, that
there are further portions still to be found.
This agrees also with PEDESTRIAN'S account
of Sept. 25, 1858, and with local statements
that portions of the tomb were buried in the
rectory garden, together with the brass of a
priest. Owing to alteration of the chancel
since the tomb was destroyed, it is practically
out of the question to put the tomb back in
its original position : but I shall be glad to
hear from any members of the family as to
their ideas on the subject.
HARRY P. POLLARD.
The Rectory, Millbrook, Beds.
SIR PETER DENIS. — I shall be obliged if j
any reader of ' N. & Q.' can give me in- 1
formation regarding Sir Peter Denis and j
his wife, beyond the following : Sir Peter i
and Lady Denis, the commander of then
yacht which conveyed Princess of Mecklen- '
burgh Strelitz, bride of George III., tcl
England.
I should like to know the date of his birth,,
marriage, and death, to whom he was
married, and where I can find the best
account of him. He is not in the ' D.N.B.'
JOHN LANE.
The Bodley Head, Vigo Street, W.I.
CHEVALIER PETER DILLON. — The Cheva-
lier Dillon, who was a member of the Legion,
of Honour, of the Asiatic Society of Bengal,
and of the Geographical Society of Paris,
and commander of the H.E.I.C. ship Research.'
published in 1829 an account of his search,
in the South Seas for information about La.
Perouse's voyage of 1785-88. What was
his origin and when did he die ? He seems ;
to have been alive in 1842, when his pam-
phlet against the Methodist Missionaries in.
the Friendly Islands to which the Rev.
David Cargill replied was published. Where-
can I see the pamphlet. It is not in
British Museum. J. M. BULLOCH.
37 Bedford Square, W.C.I.
COWAP. — Information desired as to the-
origin of the surname Cowap. Believed to-
have arisen in Cumberland or Westmorland.
Is it a variation of Cowan, and Cowen ?
J. LAND FEAR LUCAS.
MEDIJEVAL SCIENTIFIC MSS. — I am com-
piling a catalogue of the Mediaeval Scientific-
MSS. in the British Isles. The work has
received grants from both the Royal Society
and the British Academy — a combination of
help which happily illustrates that co-
operation and mutual recognition between
science and the humanities that votaries of
the history of science feel confident will be
fostered by this growing study.
The catalogue now comprises over 40,000
entries, and I am anxious to make it as
complete as possible. Early scientific
material has been found embedded in the
most unlikely places — even in missals and
psalters — and I shall therefore be grateful
for information as to any MSS. dating from
before the sixteenth century, other than
those of our great national collections which
have, of course, already been examined for*
the purpose.
DOROTHEA WALEY SINGER.
Westbury Lodge, Norham Road, Oxford.
12 S. V. AUG., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
207
DUFFUS FAMILY OF KINGSTON, JAMAICA.
—What were the Arms and Crest of the
i-bove family, one of whom Laura Duffus
narried about 1836 Konstantin Alois Ducki
'rince de Lubecki of Poland, and her sister
Charlotte Price Duffus married about the
ame time Lucien Stanilas, Count Plater de
Srollis of Poland. Were they related to
Sutherland, Lord Duffus ? Any informa-
ion will be gratefully received.
LEONARD C. PRICE.
F. LE HARDY OF LONDON, MINIATURE
JAINTER. — I should be grateful if any one
ould tell me who was his father and to what
Branch of the Le Hardy family he belonged.
. Bertrand Payne in his ' Armorial of
ersey ' gives a pedigree of the family, but
am unable to place him from that. He
xhibitecl four miniatures at the Society of
irtists and twenty -one at the Royal Aca-
emy between 1790 and 1802.
LEONARD C. PRICE.
Essex Lodge, Ewell.
SHAKESPEARE SIGNATURES. — At 10 S.
. 332 (1904) Miss L. TOULMIN SMITH said
hat photographs were taken of the Shake-
peare signatures in his (so-called) Prayer
Jook, copies of which were sent to the
tratford Museum. These are not now to
e found there. Can any of your readers
9!! me where I can procure a facsimile of
hese signatures ? Perhaps Miss TOULMIN
MITH is still alive and would help me in this
latter. Also where is the Prayer Book
ow ? C. R. HAINES.
Meadowleigh, Petersfield.
MIND, MEMORY, &c. — I notice that, in
robate cases where the sanity of a testator
? in dispute, the defendant pleads that the
sstator wTas not of sound " mind, memory,
nd understanding." Must these three
acuities combine, each in a sound state, to
roduce a legally sane person ?
I notice, too, that journalists often use
lie expression " defective intellect," and,
ometimes, " defective intelligence." Do
liese expressions mean the same thing as
not of sound mind, memory, and under -
; anding " ? BARRULE.
Woodbourne Place, Douglas, Isle of Man.
DIVORCE CASES : LIST WANTED. — Can
ny correspondent supply me with a list of
ivorce cases which were tried between 1755
nd 1765, including the names of the co-
sspondents ? Please reply direct.
WM. JACKSON PIGOTT.
Manor House, Dundrum, co. Down.
CHARLES RUSSELL, OR RUSSEL, WIN-
CHESTER SCHOLAR (Kirby, p. 254). was a
grandson of William Russell of Wimborne,
and a son of the Rev. William Russell, M.A.,
of Hart Hall, Oxford, and of Wimborne
Minster, Rector of Hinton Parva (who died
April 10, 1748, aged 49), and Mary his wife.
His elder brother William died Jan. 4, 1770,
aged 35. Charles Russell, who was bap-
tized Dec. 12, 1741, entered Winchester
College from Wimborne in 1757, and sub-
sequently became Fellow of New College,
Oxford, taking his B.A. degree in January,
1761. He is said to have been for sixty-
five years Rector of Lydeard St. Lawrence,
Thurlbeare, and Thurloxton, Somersetshire,
when he died at his house in Bath, Jan. 10,
1833.
Was he related in any way to any branch
of the family of Russell of Beaminster and
Powerstock, of which Thomas Russell, the
poet, Winchester Scholar of 1777 (Kirby,
p. 270), was a member ? (As to Thomas
Russell see ' D.N.B.').
JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.
" BAMBINO." — My family have in their
possession one of the replicas of the famous
Roman " Bambino," which were given at
one time vo favoured Roman Catholic
families after being blessed by the Pope.
This one was brought to England by a
French refugee of good family, at the time
of the first French Revolution, and given
by him to my great-grandfather, as the
greatest treasure he possessed. It has been
stated that a few years ago a paper ap-
peared in one of the magazines dealing with
the subject of these wax figures, but we
cannot trace the date of its appearance.
If any of your readers could give in-
formation on the subject, and state whether
there are likely to be any similar figures
preserved as relics, we should be very
grateful. (Miss) BERTHA F. H. PAUL.
Plynlimmon, Malvern.
JOHN WILLIAMS, c. 1671. — Can any reader
supply brief particulars about this Roman
Catholic, who wrote ' Stillingfleet against
Dr. Stillingfleet,' 1671, 8vo ?
ANEURIN WILLIAMS.
REV. THOMAS HUGO. — I have a volume
of The Hive, 1812, with cuts by Bewick, &c.,
and purporting to be part of the collection
formed by the said Mr. Hugo. Gleaned
particulars concerning this collector of
Bewickiana will be esteemed.
ANEURIN WILLIAMS.
Menai View, North Road, Carnarvon.
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CHURCH OF EVGLAND MARRIAGE SERVICE.
— In Scott's Fortunes of Nigel ' he puts
into the mouth of the villain, Lord Dalgarno,
a satirical allusion to " that happy portion
of the Prayer Book which begins with
' dearly beloved ' and ends with ' amaze-
ment ' " (chap, xxxii.). Is this Scott's own,
or is it a current bit of satire ? I notice that
Hardy uses it in his ' Desperate Remedies ' :
" Yes, matrimony do begin ' dearly beloved '
and ends wi' ' amazement,' as the Prayer
Book says " (chap. viii. 3).
JOHN WILLCOCK.
Lerwick.
FIELD -NAMES. — I should be very glad if
any of your readers could give me informa-
tion as to the meanings of certain terms
which I have come across in field-names,
taken chiefly from Hampshire tithe awards.
I have not been able to trace them in the
vavious dictionaries and glossaries at my
disposal : —
Adhouse, Anmery, Bilcroft, Bilgrove, Bittum
(-Malm), Bodylains, Boldrick, Briff (-Bottom),
Buncas, Burging (adj.), Burselot, Busnut, Buxey
(-Wood), Cad (subst.), Caingar (? Coneygar),
Capery, Carl (Picked-), Carronback, Catter
(-Down), Catthaw (-Lands), Cernamon, Chancum,
Charl, Chattern, Chaubush, Chimple (-Bridge),
Chin (-Acre), Churn (-Hill), Clan (-Burrow),
Clibs (? surname), Cockharris (-Copse), Colly
(-Grove), Comp, Compt, Quomp-Cossett (-Field),
Cossical (also in Berks, and Corsicle in Oxon),
Couthy (adj.), Crawle (subst.), Crawte (-Pasture),
Cray (-Down), Creuse (-Pins), Cricklett, Griddle-
style, Croutears, Crumsell, Cump ( Copse), Dalen
(-Copse), Dally (-Down), Dawser (-Field), Dellence,
Derrit (-Lane), Derry (-Down), Dewling (-Acres),
Diddygate, Dimmick (-Meadow), Din (Great-,
-Acre), Dines, Dolpits, Domlands, Dongreen
(-Croft), Drawland, Drawlegs, Duads (The-),
Dndlands, Dukem (-Down), Durditch, Durless
(-Ground), Ethy (-Copse), Evence (-Field), Fain
(-Field), Fishstile, Flasket (-Meadow), Flits
(snbst.), Freazen (sabst.), Freeze (-Copse), Fulin
(-Barn), Gallego, Gaslet, Gattage, Gollard, Goss-
flesh (-Hill), Gotty (-Field), Graffle, Grew (-Lands),
Gr'ittan, Grundlet, Gudge (-Close), Gurnel (-Field),
Hackrett (Little-), Hackthorn, Hamble (-Land)
Harmersnapper, Harmage (-Field), Harrage,
fpaddock), Harry (adj.), Hatback (subst.),
Hemsome, Hobern (-Copse), Hofflet, Holless,
Hornet (-Warren), Horegood (-Field), Hornix
(-Wood), Horob, Horsemily, Hough (Lower-,
-Croft), Hovena (-Copse), Howage, Howen,
TTnrkle (-Copse), Hummet (-Wood), Huss (subst.),
Hussell (subst.), Hyeth (-Pightle), Hypress
(TCopse), Is (-Field), Jobstile, Kent (-Field),
Kidnam, Kimbley (The-), Kirval (-Lane), Lady
(-Field, -Furlong, &c.), Lamel (-Mead), Lammer
(-Pio-htle), Lampacre, Larkett (Great-), Leadhearn,
Lidstile, Lillage, Limmer (-Field), Limner
(-Meadow), Lincegrove, Lolly (-Field), Lungick,
Mail (-Lands), Manglemees, Mmn (-Croft),
Mitchemar (-Mead), Moulshay, Murlands, Nancole
(-Copse), Nea (-Wood, -Farm), Nutbane (-Copse),
Ogber (-Gate), Ollix, Pavis (-Piece), Peart (The-),
Phlexes (The-), Pickastow (-Bushes), Pickhatch*
Pillinch (-Field), Pilver (-Lands), Pinhorne, Piplar,
Ponfleld, Powner (-Ground), Pratlands (-Copse),
Prickworms, Priss (-Field), Prowshards, Punt
(-Field), Pussex, Quarterlands, Quidliz (-Round),
Bason (-Field), Ratsom (-Five Acres), Redrice
(-Farm), Rockage, Rockbowen (-Paddock),
Rodgett (-Field), Roy (-Holt), Rubit (-Field),
Saddlesome (-Copse), Samber (-Hill), Saris
(-Field), Scilly, Scull (subst.), Search (Copse-,
Roundabout-), Seas (subst.), Shagrat, Sheet
(subst. and adj.), Shirf (-Down), Siress (-Field),
Smear Pits, Smelland, Snailsome (subst.), Span
(-Yard, &c.), Spence (-Field), Spleck (-Field),
Sporelake, Spradbray, Stanter (-Mead), Staplish
(-Meadow), Steterage (-Mead), Sticelet, Stingard,
Stockram, Stretchins, Strodge (-Moor), Stry
(-Piece), Swarmity, Swankey (subst.), Tapnage,
Tattle (-Copse), Themes, Thomess (subst.),
Throup, Tidpit, Tolt (-Copse, &c.), Trunnel,
Tuckle (-Close), Turl (-Hill), Undy's (-Field, &c.),
Updy's (-Hill), Vallard (-Gate), Velmead (-Farm),
Vidle, Van, Vilands, Vocas (-Copse), Vurlin,
Wackland, Wait (Denny-), Waitings, Wake
(-Land), Warr (Great-), Warrage (-Gully), War-
wicker, Watership (-Down), Wecock, Wedlands,
Werrar (-Farm, -Wood), What (-Verelands),
Wheer (The Great-), Whippage, Wiggle (-Pits),
Wilsom (The -Field), Wivelrod, Wore (The
-Ground), Worldage, Yerrage, Zeals.
I have added the attributes in case they
may be of assistance. Where no attribute
is added, none occurs in the tithe awards.
G. B. GRUNDY.
Corpus Christi College, Oxford.
HORE, ARTIST, BATH: ROBERTSON.—
Are any lists of pictures painted by him
extant and did he ever exhibit in the
Academy ? Who was Robertson, miniaturist,
of Dublin? (Mrs.) E. E. COPE.
LOWNDES. — I should be glad to obtain
information about the following persons of
this name, who were educated at West-
minster School : —
(1) Layton Lowndes, admitted 1726,
aged 12.
(2) Richard, son of William Lowndes of
Westminster, admitted on the foundation
1734, aged 14. G. F. R. B.
MARSHALL. — Information is desired con-
cerning any or all of these Marshalls who
were at Westminster School : —
(1) John Marshall, admitted in 1730,
aged 11.
(2) John Marshall, admitted Feb. 7, 1814,
and left July 5, 1816.
(3) Thomas Marshall stated to have been
at the School in 1728.
(4) Thornton Marshall, born March 6,
1822, and admitted in 1835,
(5) William Marshall stated to have been
at the School in 1728. G. F. R. B.
12 S. V. AUG., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
209
BREWING RIMES. — The following local
imes are interesting as purporting to give
he names of the various grades of beer
Brewed in cottage homes early in the nine-
eenth century. Whether these are genuine
lames or merely used as jingle I am not
prepared to say, but in either case they seem
vrorthy of record. Were similar rimes
Current in other countries among the good
oik ? Also, where would " Government
>eer " come ? Possibly below " worse than
hat."
Rimes giving the names and order of the
lifferent brewings of ale in the old Cotswold
armhouses : —
Ilmington, co. Warwick. — Blackstrap | Ruffle-
ne-Cap | Fine and Clear | Servants' Beer. (Black-
trap was very strong, and so on in order.) — An
>ld Ilmington man in the College Arms, Quinton,
)ct. 4, 1912.
Pillerton, co. Warwick, circa 1830. — Twenty
gallons of strong ale | Twenty gallons of table
*eer | Twenty gallons of small beer | Twenty
gallons of Tit-me-Tat | Twenty gallons worse than
hat. — John Mallett, miller, of Talton Mill, co.
Worcester, Oct. 5, 1912.
Whitchurch, Warwick, circa 1850. — Forty
gallons of table beer | Forty gallons of table
>eer | Forty gallons of Rat-me-tat | And Forty
gallons worse than that. — Tho. Morris of Wimp-
iton, Oct. 7, 1912.
Alderminster. — Forty gallons of Clink-me-
;lear | Forty gallons of table beer | Forty gallons
)f Rat-me-tat | Forty gallons worse than that.
31d James Pearson of Alderminster said he
3 re wed this from two bushels of malt, mixed them
ill up, and had good beer at Christmas. — John
\tayo of Wimpston, aged 70, Nov. 4, 1912.
Alderminster, co. Worcester. — Double ale I
Single ale | Very good ale | Twine-in-the-belly |
rwice-as-many | Tip-tap | Worse-than-that | Pin.
Brewed out of one quarter of malt. An old
voman named Keyts once gave a man " Tip-tap "
:o drink, and upon his laughing she, much
)ffended, asked him why he did so. To which he
•eplied, he was a-wondering how she could brew
wo lots worse than that.
J. HARVEY BLOOM.
GEORGE STREET, PORTMAN SQUARE, LON-
DON.— Can any one tell me where I can see
:he rate and parish books in which this
street would be assessed for years 1780-1816 ?
"n what parish is this street ? Is it in the
;ame parish now as in 1816 ?
HERBERT SOUTHAM.
WILLIAM ANDERSON, 1757-1837.— There
lias lately been discovered a portrait of
Robert Burns, and on the back of this
eighteenth century canvas there is the name
William Anderson, 1757-1837.
Could any of your correspondents inform
me where this artist died ?
W. M. GRAY.
Thornliebank, Renfrewshire.
ST. JOHN BAPTIST HEADS. — On the more
elaborate examples of St. John^ Baptist
heads, executed in alabaster at Nottingham,
c. 1430-1530, in addition to figures of St.
Peter and St. Thomas of Canterbury, we
find behind them two other saints. The
following occur in pairs, viz., St. James
Major and St. Anthony ; St. James Major
and St. Christopher ; also St. Catherine and
St. Dorothy ; St. Catherine and St. Margaret ;
and St. Dorothy and St. Mary Magdalene.
I should be glad if any reader could suggest
what association exists between these pairs
of saints, and alao what is their association
with the head of St. John Baptist resting
upon the charger between them. In the
foreground is the half figure of Christ
emerging from the tomb, whilst above the
charger are two angels supporting the soul
of the Baptist. PHILIP NELSON, M.D.
YEARDYE FAMILY OF HUNTINGDON. — la
any information available as to the history of
the Yeardye family of Huntingdon, and as to
the etymology of the name ? I find Saxon
eorde, the earth, and modern geordie, the
subterranean miner, also as a proper name
Yardley and Yeardley. Is there any
connexion ? JOHN YEARDYE.
12 Coleridge Walk, Hampstead, N.W.4.
METAL MORTARS. — Would any reader of
' N. & Q.' kindly help me to fix the date of
three metal mortars in my possession ?
One has embossed on the outside the
crown Tudor rose, another the fleur-de-lis,
and the third has a crown over a fleur-de-lis.
Several other articles I possess have a
tulip on some part. Does this tulip point
to any particular period ?
J. W. SWITHINBANK.
Sheffield.
" APOCHROMATIC." — Can any reader tell
me what is the right pronunciation of this
word ? Is the o long or short ? The
' N.E.D.' and Webster's do not give the
word at all ; Lloyd's has a long o, which
seems strange.
JOHN ANDERSON SMITH, M.D.
158, Willesden Lane, Brondesbury, N.W.6.
BERNARD DE MANDEVILLE. — I would much
appreciate any information as to the exist-
ence of the following editions of books
connected with Bernard de Mandeville, and
as to where they may be viewed : —
The 1734 edition of 'The Fable of the
Bees.'
The 1760 edition of the French translation
of the fable ' La Fable des Abeilles.'
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(.12 S. V. AUG., 1919.
The German translation of the fable,
' Bernhard von Mandeville's Fabel von, den
Bienen.'
' The Planter's Charity ' : a poem [1704 ?].
I am also in search of portraits of, and
letters or manuscripts by Bernard cle
Mancleville outside the British Museum and
the Bodleian Library. F. B. KAYE.
North Western University.
SCUM OF DEMOCRACY. — Who is the author
of the saying, "In a democracy it is the
scum that comes to the top ? " Voltaire
said, " Pure democracy is the rule of
rascaldom," but the metaphor in the
English proverb suggests that it is not a
translation of the saying of the sage of
Ferney. T. PERCY ARMSTRONG.
SEVEN KINGS. — Can any of your readers
tell me the origin of the name Seven Kings,
borne by a station on the G.E. Railway, and
also by a hotel on the neighbouring road
from London to Romford. R. M.
CHARLES COOKE, BOOKSELLER. — I shall
be glad to have references to his life and
career generally, his ancestry, and so forth.
He carried on business at 17 Paternoster
Row, and published a large number of
books, of which a list would be useful. He
died at the house from which I write in 1816
and was buried in the churchyard at
Walthamstow under an altar tomb with a
long epitaph. There is a short obituary
notice of him in The Gentleman's Magazine,
1816. Please reply direct.
F. SYDNEY EDEN. ,
Belle Vue House, Cooke's Folly, Walthamstow.
TOBACCO PIPES. — Years ago in Hexham,
Northumberland, were to be seen exposed
for sale in Giles-gate, clay tobacco pipes
with three bowls and three stems : the three
stems were brought into a common mouth-
piece looped and interlaced with stems.
An old townsman told me that they were
used by pitmen on Trinity Sunday, and that
there was religious significance. Beyond
this he knew nothing — they have not been
seen for years. An inquiry in the columns
of a local paper was without result, and the
writer has made many personal inquiries
round Newcastle and Durham, Carlisle and
Scotland towards the south ; among friends
a-> well.
V Giles-gate is the Catholic part of Hexham
even now and is or was the wealthy part
once.
These pipes and the custom mav have
been of local origin or imported from France
or Holland. Can any correspondent say ?
Usually the pipes were of white clay with
a brown glaze and bowls and stems rather
smaller than ordinary pipes. Their value
and price were small. HENRY T. DAVIS.
POPULAR FALLACIES. — The number and
character of my questions which the editor
of ' N. & Q.' kindly inserted in 11 S. xii.,
12 S. i., ii., iii., and the current volume, most
of which have been answered by many
correspondents, to whom I am greatly
indebted and hereby wish to thank, have
probably led some readers to think that a
third edition of * Popular Fallacies ' is in
preparation. This is so, for the second (or
" enlarged ") edition was published by
Cassell's in 1909 and contained about 460
fallacies. The third edition will, it is hoped,
deal with 1,200 (including the 460). The
MS. is nearly completed and I should be
much indebted to any readers who have the
1909 edition who will be good enough to
point out any mistakes in it of any kind,
however serious or insignificant, so that the
next edition may be as free from errors as
possible, though I fear with so much new
matter (which cannot be checked in this
way), additional slips will inevitably be
made.
Kindly send such matter (unless of general
interest) direct to me at 25 Victoria Street,
Westminster, S.W.I.
ALFRED S. E. ACKERMANN.
AMBASSADOR. — Was Dr. Samuel Johnson
the first to define an ambassador as "an
honest man sent to lie abroad for the good
of his country " ? Mr. R. B. Marston, writ-
ing in The Daily Mail of June 24, 1916, said
Izaak Walton was the author, but apparently
did not give the reference.
ALFRED S. E. ACKERMANN.
BATS : HAIR. — I have heard it said that
bats have a particular tendency to get into a
person's hair. Is this true, and if not, what
has given rise to the idea ?
ALFRED S. E. ACKERMANN.
BIRDS POISONING CAPTIVES. — It was
stated, in The Daily Mail of Jan. 8, 1914,
that wild birds sometimes give poison to
captive birds. Is there any truth in this ?
If not, how has the error arisen ?
ALFRED S. E. ACKERMANN.
(.' N. & Q.' cannot insert half the queries which
MR. AOKERMAN wishes answered, but we will
forward those not inserted to anyone who will
promise to return them, and send us a stamped
addressed envelope.!
12 S. V. Auu., 1919/
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211
' ALBANIA.'— In a letter to Joanna Baillie
bout her new tragedies Scott wrote inter
lia : —
" Were it possible for me to hasten the treat
expect in such a composition with you, I would
remise to read the volume at the silence of
3onday upon the top of Minchmoor . ... It is in
ich a scene that the unknown and gifted author
c ' Albania ' places the superstition which con-
sts in hearing the noise of a chase .... I have
'ten repeated his verses with some sensations of
we in this place."
Dr. John Brown (of ' Rab and his Friends '
ime), who quotes this passage in his paper
n Minchmoor, adds : —
" The lines — and they are noble, and must
ive sounded wonderful with his voice and look —
>e as follows. Can no one tell us anything more
: their author ? —
here oft is heard, at midnight, or at noon,
eginning faint, but rising still more loud,
nd nearer, voice of hunters, and of hounds ;
nd horns, hoarse-winded, blowing far and keen !
orthwith the hubbub multiplies ; the gale
abours with wilder shrieks, and rifer din
f hot pursuit ; the broken cry of deer
.angled by throttling dogs ; the shouts of men,
nd hoofs thick beating on the hollow bill,
idden the grazing heifer in the vale
barts at the noise, and both the herdsman's ears
ingle with inward dread — aghast he eyes
he mountain's height, and all the ridges round,
et not one trace of living wight discerns,
or knows, o'erawed and trembling as he stands,
o what or whom he owes his idle fear —
o ghost, to witch, to fairy, or to fiend ;
ut wonders, and no end of wondering finds."
beg leave to repeat Dr. Brown's query in
lese columns. J. B. McGovERN.
St. Stephen's Rectory, C.-on-M., Manchester.
PHILIP SCOT.— Is anything known of the
ithor of " A Treatise of the Schism of
ngland, Wherein particularly Mr. Hales
id Mr. Hobbs are modesty accosted: by
tiilip Scot : Permissa Superiorum : Amster-
im : Printed Anno Dom. 1650 " ?
JOHN B. WAINE WRIGHT.
'THE VILLAGE BLACKSMITH.'— I should
ce to know where the original " village
acksmith " shop is situated. Several vil-
ges claim the original, and to settle a
spute information concerning the above
3uld be helpful. E. A. GARLICK.
AUTHORS OP QUOTATIONS WANTED. —
Can any reader tell me the author of the
lowing lines, also when and where they first
peared in print ? —
NEVER AGAIN.
I will laugh Avith you, I will jest with you,
I will dance with you down the year ;
But trudge a day on a weary way ?
Never again, my dear !
MOLLY H. SNELL.
INDENTURES.
(12 S. v. 148.)
IT is not at all probable that our current
indentures are survivals of the practice of
parting a sacrificed animal's carcase between
those concerned in a contract.
In Smith's ' Compendium of the Law of
Real and Personal Property ' it is stated as
follows : —
" Formerly when deeds were more concise than
they are at present if they were made between
two or more parties, it was usual to write both
parts of which they were composed on the same
skin of parchment with some words or letters of
the alphabet between them, through which the
parchment was cut in acute angles, instar dentiwn
(from which they acquired the name of indentures
or deeds indented), in such a manner as to leave
half the words or letters on one part, and half on
the other [for this 4 Cruise, T. 32, C. 1, sect. 20,
is cited]. In its origin indenting was in all
probability a mode of identification, by a com-
parison of the parts at the point of indenting,
and thus a guard against forgery or fraudulent
substitution [for this 1 Pres. Shep. T. 50 is cited]."
It is not unlikely that the idea was taken
from the tally, which, as is well known, we-s
a stick upon which notches were cut, which
was then split longitudinally so as to leave
part of the notches on each half of the stick.
The French bakers still keep in this way
their customers' accounts for bread supplied.
I have often seen the baker's halves of these
tallies hanging up in his shop in a bundle,
and have also seen children coming back
from the shop carrying both the bread they
had been sent to purchase and their parent's
half of the tally, the latter of which had been
taken to the shop to have the purchase
recorded thereon. It is obvious that this is
a complete protection against fraud. The
two pieces of stick, produced as the two
halves of the tally, must exactly fit together
if they are genuine, while it is impossible for
either party to attempt to alter the account
without the half of the tally held by the
other party, showing it at once.
The necessity for some check on the
fraudulent alteration of the records of
contracts was felt as early as the days of the
clay tablets of ancient Babylon. There a
very ingenious method was adopted. It is
described in ' The Evolution of the Aryan,'
by von Ihering, translated by A. Drucker
(London, Swan, Sonneschein & Co., 1897),
p. 207 : —
" The arrangement consisted in the manufac-
ture of two identically similar clay tablets, which,
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before being baked, were joined together, one
on the top of the other, by a frame. The top one
was open to view, the lower one closed up ; the
former served all ordinary purposes, only when
a dispute arose as to its authenticity the frame
joining the two was broken open before the Court
and the duplicate compared with it. If the
proprietor of the double tablet, in order to falsify
the duplicate also, had broken away the frame,
he himself would thereby have destroyed the
value of the record as evidence."
The same writer also points out that we
meet with an arrangement similar in principle
at Rome, which, first coming into use with
respect to wills, afterwards, by order of the
Senate, became the exclusive form of all
records which had claim to evidential value.
There was a twofold record — an outer and
an inner — and the latter was closed up, and
the whole fastened by thread, and sealed
by the witnesses on the thread, and he cites
Paul. S.R.V. xxv. 6 : —
" Amplissimus ordo decrevit, eas tabulas,
quse publici vel privati contractus scripturam
continent, adhibitis testibus ita signari, ut in
summa marginis ad mediam partem perforate
triplici lino constringantur atque impositee supra
linum cerse signa imprimantur, ut exteriori
scripturse fidern interior servet."
Having referred to tallies, I may mention
a survival of them in this locality. Clitheroe
Castle is the residence and the office of the
Steward of the Honour of Clitheroe. The
various local pounds or pinfolds in the
district having fallen into disuse and mostly
disappeared, on the somewhat rare occasions
when straying animals are required to be
impounded they are taken to Clitheroe Castle
and impounded in the Castle grounds. The
person who impounds them receives from
the Steward's office the half of a piece of
stick split lengthwise, upon which several
notches had previously been cut, and the
other half is retained in the Steward's office.
Whoever comes to take the animals out of
pound has to bring with him, as his warrant
for so doing, the half of the piece of stick
that was delivered to the impounder, and if
any question arose as to the genuineness of
the piece of stick produced it would be soon
settled by seeing if it corresponded with the
half that remained in the Steward's office.
This practice appears to have been once
general in the district. The late Mr. Robert
Parkinson of Mitton, who died a few years
ago over 80 years of age, told me that when
he was a boy at Bolton-by-Bowland the
pinder, when cattle were impounded, used
to cut a piece of stick from the hedge, make
several notches on it, then split it lengthwise,
and give half of it to the impounder, retaining
the other half himself.
In Speight's 'The Craven and North-West
Yorkshire Highlands' the writer states: —
" In Upper Settle the old Cattle Pound may
still be seen, where lost or stray animals were
kept till claimed by their rightful owner. This
was effected in a curious way. The pinder —
or pound keeper — broke a piece of stick in two,.
giving one part to the finder and retaining the
other himself, so that when the cattle were
redeemed and the reward was made, this could
only be done upon production of the stick, as a
means of identification."
WM. SELF WEEKS.
Westwood, Clitheroe.
MASTER GUNNER.
(12 S. v. 153.)
I TAKE it that the status of a master gunner,
both in the army and navy, as compared with
his junior or subordinate gunners, was similar
to that of the head master of a college or
school in comparison with the other or under
masters. As regards the army, an Ordnance
List dated Mar. 8, 1715 (printed in Dalton's
' George I.'s Army,' vol. i. p. 285), mentions
" Col. James Pendlebury, Master Gunner of
Great Britain, to exercise scholars to shoot
in great ordnance, at 190Z. per annum,"
with three mates at 45Z. 10s. per annum
each. He held this post under three British
sovereigns, from Nov. 20, 1710, having suc-
ceeded Capt. Richard Silver, whose predeces-
sor, Col. George Brown, held it in 1700 till his
death in June, 1702. ' The True State of
England,' 1734, gives Col. (Jonas) Watson as
then master gunner of England (until he
fell at Carthagena in 1741), and says : —
" By an old Custom it is assign'd to the Master
Gunner to teach all such as desire to learn the Art
of Gunnery ; and he has Power to administer an
Oath to his Pupils, which binds them not only to
Allegiance, but that they shall not serve any
Foreign Prince or State, without express Leave
from their own Sovereign ; nor can he teach any
but such as have taken the said Oath : when there
is a want of Gunners, he certifies the Capacity of
such Persons as are recommended to be Gunner*
in his Majesty's Train."
In Porter's ' History of the Royal
Engineers,' p. 25, John Rogers the engineer
appears as also comptroller of the train at
the siege of Boulogne in 1544, his train
consisting of one master gunner and seventy-
one gunners, &c. On p. 46 he mentions
Nathaniel Nye as chief engineer and also
master gunner of Fairfax's army at the
siege of Worcester, in or about 1642, on
behalf of the Parliament. The train for
Flanders, Feb. 27, 1692, had in its gun
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
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achment one master gunner at 5s. and
> mates at 3s., &c. (ibid., p. 55). The
in to proceed with the Channel fleet on
summer expedition in 1692 included
> master gunner of England at 13s. 4td.
I ninety -two gunners at 2s. (ibid., p. 57)
Cdward French was serving as master
xner at Tynemouth Castle in 1688 ; and
>mas Holman, who was appointed a
iner, April 30, 1680, was sent with an
illery detachment to the relief of London-
ry, with the rank of master gunner, in
y, 1689 (Dalton's ' Army Lists,' vol. v.
2, p. 11). In Chamberlayne's 'Present
te of Great Britain,' 1716, mention is
ie of Thomas Cornelius, master gunner
:he Tower of London at 361. 10s. a year,
h four other gunners (73Z.) ; and it also
3 there was a master gunner at Berwick,
lisle, Chester, Cockham Wood, Calsted
tie, Guernsey and Castle Cornet, Hurst
tie, Kingston-upon-Hull, Languard Fort,
Mawes, Pendennis Castle, Portsmouth,
erness, Sandham Castle (I.W.), Yarmouth
tie (I.W.), and Cowes Castle (I.W.)
>ectively, each at 36Z. 10s. a year ; while
mouth, Tilbury Fort, Tinmouth Castle,
Upton Castle had two master gunners
i. Under them were, two, three, four,
or seven other gunners, according to the
or importance of the garrison, the chief
3 having : Plymouth 18, Portsmouth 23,
erness 13, and Tilbury Fort 10 other
ners, all at 181. 5s. each. The War
ce Papers in the Record Office further -
e give the names of several other
•isons where gunners were stationed,
•ng them being Gillingham. These local
ners were occasionally removed to other
ions, and some of them were promoted
naster gunners, all appointments being
Le by warrant of the Board of Ordnance.
>seph Brome, who was a drummer in
company of the Royal Regiment of
llery in the Island of Minorca in April,
>, died master gunner of England,
il 24, 1796. I think the late General
lulph was the last (honorary) master
aer of St. James's Park.
W. R. WILLIAMS.
tie King's Regulations of 1912, amended
iug. I/ 1914, par. 1767, shows that a
ber gunner, 1st class, in the army ranks
. a naval carpenter and a naval artificers'
neer, but the naval men are the seniors.
presume that there are still master
lers in the Royal Artillery — I have
ing here to verify this. I know, however,
such a rank existed, as in the past I
knew many of them. I do not think that
the rank of master gunner could have been
used in the navy for a long time past, as I
presume the naval rank of chief gunner —
which ranks with a second lieutenant in the
army — gives to the holder duties similar to
those of a master gunner in the armv : unless
the gunner in the navy does the work — this
I do not know, having no knowledge of naval
duties. HERBERT SOUTHAM.
Although this word is marked " obsolete "
in the ' N.E.D.,' it appears to be still in use
in India. By a curious coincidence within
a few days after reading MR. MORIARTY'S
note (ante, p. 153), I received from a friend
at Simla a copy of The Statesman of
April 29, 1919, published at Calcutta, con-
taining inter alia an account of a riot p^t
Kasur, between Ferozepore and Lahore. In
a report of the circumstance by a railway
official the following sentence occurs : —
"The two warrant officers to whom it was
reported we owed our preservation were not the
two who helped us. They, Conductor Selby and
Master Gunner Malatt, went on to the station in
the train which was after a few minutes taken into
Kasur Station. It was on the platform that these
two unfortunate men were killed."
J. E. HARTING.
There is a functionary so called in
Shakespeare's ' 1 Henry VI.,' i. 4.
ST. SWITHIN.
LITERATURE AND ICONOGRAPHY OF LON-
DON PEACE CELEBRATIONS (12 S. v. 175). —
In providing a brief supplement to this note
I am able to revise my last contribution.
In the fourth line from end for "doyen "
read " foyer." An exhibition of relics of
the Armada was arranged in the foyer during
the production of the spectacular drama so
named, to commemorate the tercentenary of
the great naval victory.
To complete my note I should add
references to earlier examples of such
pageants, but as a victory triumph it is
apparently the first of its kind. To
the civic boating episodes we need not
refer. The Maria Wood is sufficiently
known and the famous trip to Oxford
was indiscreetly described by the mayor's
chaplain, but of state pageants or river
progresses I believe the earliest illustrated
was Lord Sandwich's return with Catherine
of Braganza. Of this rare print an example
is in the Pepysian collection ; the description
informs us it shows " the reception of her
majesty and the King, on the River coming
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from Hampton Court to Whitehall." The
Gentleman's Magazine of October, 1768,
provided a folding plate illustrating the
river pageant when Christian VII. of Den-
mark went from Whitehall to the Temple,
Sept. 23, 1768. More uncommon is an
aquatint view of the funeral procession of
Nelson. This was published with The
Lady's Magazine of Feb. 1, 1806. The artist,
or others responsible, singularly present a
lavish display of flags and bunting, but not
one is at half mast and, except the barge
with the catafalque, there is no sign of
urning. ALECK ABRAHAMS.
A REVERIE IN OLD RATCLIFFE : THE
DEATH OF CAPT. JOHN WEDDELL (12 S.
v. 171). — Your correspondent Me. in remark-
ing that Weddell, after leaving Macao,
returned to India " and so to England in
1640, before petitioning for a new com-
mission " is evidently following the account
in the ' Diet, Nat, Biog.' But Prof. J. K.
Laughton, Weddell's biographer, gives no
authority for his return, and the records at
the India Office fail to substantiate his
statement. After leaving China, in Decem-
ber, 1637, Weddell sailed in the Dragon to
Achin and thence, in February, 1638, to the
West Coast of India (' Continuation of the
China Voyage,' ' Marine Records,' vol. Ixiii.).
He is subsequently heard of at Cochin,
Bhatkal, Masulipatam, and Cannanore. The
latent direct mention of him in the India
Office records being on Jan. 29, 1639, at the
last-named place, when he was preparing
to sail for England in company with the
Catherine (Foster, ' English Factories in
India,' 1637-41). Neither the Dragon nor
the Catherine reached their destination, and
Mr. Foster (op. cit., p. 23) surmises that both
vessels were wrecked in the storms of May
and June, 1639.
Further confirmation of the loss of the
two ships has been supplied to me by SIR
RICHARD TEMPLE, whose third volume o:
' The Travels of Peter Muncly ' (Hak. Soc.
h now in the press. Mundy was a member o
Courteen's Association. He sailed in Wed
dell's ill-fated China expedition and returnee
to England in the Sun from Achin. In th
notes which he added to his diary of th
China voyage the following passage occurs : —
"Capt. Weddell and Capt. Carter, shippes
goods and company lost, supposed to bee foundrec
in the Sea. Yett More Disasters. Captain
Weddell in the Dragon, Admirall, with the Cheif
Merchantts, Preachers, etrp , and Captaine farte
in the Catherine, rere admirall, since their depar
ture [blank] in [blank] were never More heard o
and therefore g\\Qu for lost, supposed to bee eithe
ast away on the great and Dangerous shoalds and
ands without St. Laurence, beetweene it and India,
r foundred and Swallowed in the Sea, shippes,
oodes with all the Soules in them. The shippes-
/ere old and long outt. Questionlesse, had they
ome home, they had Made a Ritch voyage as-
Veil for them selves as for the Imployers."
This evidence from one of Weddell's
>ersonal friends should finally settle the-
•uestion of the fine old sea captain's end.
'urther proof can, however, be found in a
>amphlet (Tract No. 359, India Office
abrary) by J. D. [John Darell], published in ;
665. It is entitled " A True and Com-
endious Narrative. .. .Of the totall Plun-
dering and Sinking of the Dragon and
Katherine Both Ships and Men...." The-
luthor endeavours to incriminate the Dutch
n the loss of the two ships with their crews,
le fails to carry conviction in the mind of
he reader, but the depositions and inquiries
hat he records show unmistakably that
leither the two ships nor their commanders
,vere ever heard of after leaving India early
n 1639. L. M. ANSTEY.
QUEEN ANNE : THE SOVEREIGN'S VETO r
THE ROYAL ASSENT (12 S. v. 95, 155). —
There is a small error in my reply at the-
econd reference : in the last paragraph
I should have written that " Raine " (not
' Revue ") is in our days differently spelt,.
seeing that I was alluding to Queen Anne's
ime, when the word was spelt " raine."
I may, perhaps, be allowed to add to
what I wrote about the Royal Assent, &c.
Erskine May in his ' Parliamentary Prac- j
tice,' 12th eel., 1917, p. 394, gives the Assent
o a petition demanding a right, whether
mblic or private, viz. : " Soit droit fait
comme il est desire." He also gives in a
nodernized form the ancient pronounce-
ment made by the Clerk of the Crown upon. .
the reading of the Title of her Majesty's !
[Queen Elizabeth's] Pardon. Although he-
refers to ' The Journals of all the Parliaments
during the Reign of Queen Elizabeth,'
collected by Sir Simonds D'Ewes, revised
and published by Paul Bowes, 1682, p. 35,,
he does not give an exact copy. The-
following is the pronouncement as it appears
on the said page of D'Ewes : —
" Les Prelats, Seigneurs, & Communes, en ce-
present Parliament assembles, au nom de touts
vous autres subjects, remercient tres humblement
vostre Majestie, & prient a Dieu, vous donner e»
sante bonne vie & longue."
May, though quoting D'Ewes, p. 35, gives
" parlment " for " Parliament " ; " assem-
bles " for " assembles " ; " sujects " for
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' subjects " ; " majeste " for " Majestie "
' sante " for " sante."
This ancient form appears on two othe:
Dages of D'Ewes, viz., 76 and 116, with
small differences of spelling, " Majestye '
ind " Majesty " for " Majestie " ; also " que
Is vous donne " and " que il vous done '
or " vous donner."
As to this ancient form May writes thai
nodern practice has substituted for it the
•oyal assent in the usual form as to a public
rill. For an example of this see Journals
>/ the House of Lords, vol. xx. p. 546, where
July 15, 1717) the Assent was so given to
' An. Act for the King's most Gracious
General and Free Pardon."
D'Ewes gives the following forms oi
Assent, p. 35, under An. 1 Reg. Eliz., 1558
c 1559 : —
To Publick Acts, La Roigne le veult.
To Private Acts, Soit faite come il est desire.
To Bill of Subsidy, La Roigne remercye ses
jyaulx subjects, accept leur benevolence, & aussi
5 veult.
n this "ses loyaulx subjects " appears instead
f " les (or ses) bon (or bons) subjects,"
nd " aussi " instead of " ainsi." On p. 76
he word is "ainsi," and on p. 116 it is
; auxi " (presumably — aussi). There is no
oubt that D'Ewes wrote " aussi," p. 35,
s he translates the last words of the Assent,
and also wills it."
La Roigne s'advkera, i.e., the Queen will
dvise upon it, is the form of answer,
ccording to D'Ewes, " to such Acts as her
[ajesty did forbear to allow."
Sir Winston Churchill in his ' Divi Bri-
innici : being a Remark upon the Lives of
11 the Kings of this Isle,' 1675, p. 20,
iys: —
'"Tis the Royal Assent that Quickens and puts
ie Soul, Spirit, and Power into it [a law]. A Roy
•ivisera,, only much more A Roy ne veult, makes
1 their [the Lords' and Commons'] conceptions
>ortive, when he pleases."
I have nowhere else found anything
Dout " A Roy ne veult," but I can scarcely
link that Churchill was in error, seeing
lat when his book was published he had
?en a member of the Pensionary Parlia-
ent for about fourteen years. A query
mine as to this appeared at 11 S. xi. 451,
it there was no reply.
ROBERT PIERPOINT.
MERCURY DRAWN BY COCKS (12 S. v. 154).
-The cock was dedicated to Mercury, he
ing the god of merchandise, as a symbol
that vigilance and early rising essential to
e success of commerce.
CONSTANCE RUSSELL.
NEW CHESTERFIELD LETTERS (12 S.
v. 154).—" The Chesterfield Letters of 1873,
by Lord G — -H ," to give them their
correct description, commenced in July,
1873, in a monthly illustrated magazine, now
defunct, called London Society, published by
Bentley of Burlington Street. There were
five in all, and they terminated in November
of that year, by which time they had caused
a considerable flutter in fashionable circles
by their caustic tone and thinly- veiled
allusions to many well-known personages of
that period. For example, " Rippy Dion"
of the Foreign Office was obviously meant
for " Creppy " Vivian, as he was known to
his familiars, and who afterwards, when
Lord Vivian, became British Ambassador
at Rome.
The authorship of these satirical squibs
was attributed to the late Lord Depart, who,
while admitting responsibility for them, -
denied that they actually emanated from his
pen. When Pelegrini's cartoon of his
lordship appeared in Vanity Fair of Jan. 31,
1874, it was styled " Chesterfield Letters "
and the letterpress of " Jehu, Junior," dealt
rather fully with the matter.
In January, 1874, according to that
paper, a resolution was moved at the
Guards' Club to the effect that the tone of "
' The Chesterfield Letters of 1873 ' is objec-
tionable and unworthy a member of this
club, and that Lord Desarts' name may be
removed from the list of the club members.
The motion was, however, defeated by the
necessary majority, and there the incident
nded, to the best of my knowledge, without
the actual authorship ever having been
disclosed.
Lord George Hamilton wrote a letter in
The Times of Dec. 9, 1873, denying that
ither he or Lord George Hill were the
authors of the letters, and added that as
there were no other Lord G. H.s the author
was unwarranted in so describing himself,
WlLLOUGHBY MAYCOCK.
REPRESENTATIONS OF THE BLESSED
TRINITY (12 S. iii., 168, 231, 307 ; iv. 55, 228, .
331). — I quite agree with your correspondent, .
HEV. J. M. J. FLETCHER, that the dove does
not actually appear in the canopy of the
Black Prince's tomb in Canterbury Cathe-
dral. It was, as suggested by MR. ROCKING-
HAM, " bowdlerized " out in some restora-
tion, when the body of Christ was repainted
as naked, a most extraordinary feature for
the time, never to be found before the
Renaissance and, even then, quite un-
common.
216
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s.v. AUG., 1019.
I feel sure that the clove is still visible in the
Black Prince's badge at the British Museum ;
a part of the beard of the Father, in the
engraving of Dean Stanley's book, is nothing
but a poorly depicted dove coming out of His
mouth, for expressing the dogma of pro-
fession from the Father as well as from the
Son below, " procedenti ab utroque."
I keep therefore wondering why Albert
Day did describe those two instances of a
pretended trinity in two persons without
any more explanation. Of course, there is
not, as far as I know, any question of
*' clouds or rays of light or nothing at all "
for representing the Holy Ghost before the
Renaissance. The dove was considered
to be quite fitting to represent an invisible
spirit coming from above. Owing to the
text of the Gospels it was accepted uni-
versally and from a very early date as a
convenient symbol and was not much
objected to before Puritan times. It was
• even kept by the writers of the Reforma-
tion, including Jac. Faber (Stapulensis).
He understands the dove as a figure of
Divine Love, when explaining a print,
possibly by Holbein, representing the
baptism of Christ in the River Jordan
(' Commentarii in Quatuor Evangelia, Basel,
1523). The clove appears as well in the fron-
tispiece of the Authorized Version of the
Bible, 1611, where the Father is represented
by the Jewish monogram, the Son by the
Lamb of God.
Notwithstanding the many examples in
Flemish and, late German art — we know what
the expression " old German school " really
means — the representation of a Trinity
with a recumbent figure of Christ remains
unusual in English art, as pointed out by
MR. J. LE COUTEUB. So far, no other
example has been given of the same. It
must be added that a number may have been
destroyed as objectionable in later times.
PIERRE TURPIN.
FISH-YARD (12 S. v. 181).— Fish -yard or
fishgarth (Icelandic fiski-gar&r) denotes in
the west of Scotland an almost obsolete
-device for taking fish on tidal shores.
A rampart of boulders was built out on the
strand usually in a semi -circle to near the
limit of ebb, with a sluice or water-gate at
the outer extremity. The flowing tide
filled this enclosure ; when in ebbed it left
-. a pool with any fish that happened to be in
it. The sluice was then opened, the pool
was run dry and the fish were taken out.
These garths were sometimes of large size,
i enclosing an area of an acre or two ; but the
ruined remains of lesser ones may be seen in
many places forming dark semicircles where
small streams flow across a sandy shore,
designed for the capture of migratory
salmon and sea trout. An act of the
13th Parliament of James III. (Feb. 4, 1483)
regulated the construction and management
of " fischgari:hes."
The most extensive arrangement of fish-
yards known to me is on the vast expanse
of sand at the head of the Bay of Luce.
The river Luce and its tributary the Pil-
tanton wind across these sands to the sea,
and at low tide the foundations of a perfect
labyrinth of fish-yards are visible in a series
of wide curves, dark with seaweed. I am
told, though I have not seen the document,
that the charter of the Hays of Park, whose
ancient castle dominates the scene, con-
ferred upon them the fishings of the river
Luce from its source to the sea, and as far
into the sea as a man might ride and cast a
javelin. HERBERT MAXWELL.
Monreith.
Explained in the ' N.E.D.' as being the
same as fishgarth, " a garth or inclosure on
a river or on the seashore for preserving
fishes or taking them easily. Quotations
from 1454 to 1894. Two quotations for
" fish-yard," both from Picton, ' Liverpool
Municipal Records' (1883), 1685 and 1789.
J. T. F.
Winterton, Lines.
[MR. N. W. HILL and MR. ARCHIBALD SPARKE
also thanked for replies.]
INSCRIPTIONS IN ST. JOHN THE EVANGE-
LIST'S, WATERLOO ROAD : R. W. ELLISTON'S
PLACE or EDUCATION (12 S. v. 63, 135, 193).
— I am out of touch with most works of
reference and I do not know upon what
ground Mr. Lucas, as cited by PROF.
BENSLY, states that Elliston was educated
not at St. Paul's School but at the school of
St. Paul's, Covent Garden. The registers
of Colet's school, however, are conclusive as
shewing that Mr. Lucas is mistaken. The
entry therein dated July 29, 1783, is as
follows : " Robert William Elliston, aged 9,
son (sic) of Dr. E., Master of Sidney College,
Cambridge."
Curiously enough the son of the head of
an Oxford college was admitted to the
school a few days later. Thi^ was Sir
Charles Wetherall, the well-known Attorney-
General, who?e father was Master of Uni-
versity College.
MICHAEL H. MCDONNELL.
Sierra Leone.
12 S. V. Arc , 1919. ]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
217
NORFOLK MANUSCRIPTS (12 S. v. 182). —
..ot 10 in the Frere Catalogue of 1888 was
mrchased by Mr. Walter Rye, the eminent
Norfolk antiquary, who now resides in
Norwich. These manuscripts, which are
till in his possession, are catalogued as
ollows in his printed catalogue of MSS.,
entitled ' A Catalogue of Fifty of the
Norfolk Manuscripts in the Library of
Walter Rye at Winchester House, Putney,'
:889: —
fo. 4. 2 vols. folio, containing 305 Pedigrees of
Norfolk Families, compilea by Anthony Norris
of Barton, with an 8vo index of all persons
named therein. There is an index to persons
and places in vol. 1 8vo, of indexes (No. 5 of
present catalogue). [No. 10 in Frere Sale
Catalogue]. The names of the families of which
there are detailed pedigrees are : — &c.
fa. 5. Index (8vo) to the last collection [Frere
Catalogue No. 10], containing : — &e.
Mr. Rye has by his will left these manu-
cripts to the Norwich Public Library, and
am authorized to state that they can be
een here by appointment.
GEO. A. STEPHEN, City Librarian.
Public Library, Norwich.
"Pno PELLE CUTEM " (12 S. v. 93, 132,
64). — MR. BOTTOM'S suggestion is the best
have seen. It is far more probable than a
aference to Job iv. The significance of the
wo words also is important. They seem
o have changed places during the voyage,
owever. J. FOSTER PALMER.
JACK STRAW AND WAT TYLER (12 S.
-. 153). — In a sense both were Wai worth's
; victims " — Tyler more directly. The truth
3 somewhat less dramatic than the legend,
"he interview between the King and Tyler
ras fairly amicable until one of the royal
uite (Sir John Newentone, who had lost
lochester Castle to Tyler) interfered to say
hat he recognized in Tyler a notorious
hief and marauder. For this the rebel
rould have killed him with his dagger had
tot Walworth interfered. He struck at
Valworth, whose armour turned the blow,
,nd who then drew sword and wounded
]"yler, who turned and fled to his followers ;
thereupon another Kingsman (Ralph
>tandish, afterwards knighted) pursued and
aortally wounded him. Tyler fell from
lis horse and was carried half dead into St.
Bartholomew's, close at hand. Walworth,
>n his return from rousing the city for the
£ing, missed the body of the rebel chief,
,nd on learning his refuge h&d him out and
>eheaded him. The head was carried on a
>ole " to intimidate the commons," and
Afterwards, with that of the other chief
ringleader, Jack Straw, replaced those of
Tyler's victims on London Bridge.
Who Straw was is somewhat uncertain.
According to the ' Diet. Nat. Biog.' a pro-
clamation of the rebels in Thanet Church
(June 13, 1381) ran in the names of Wat
Tyler and John Rackstraw, and it is con-
jectured that the latter is to be identified
with Jack Straw. Tyler himself has been
mistaken for others of his name. Thus
the slayer of the poll-tax collector was ona
John Tyler of Dartf ord ; and there is
further confusion with another Walter
Tyler " of Essex " — the historic Wat being
of Maidstone.
The story of Walworth's dagger in the
city arms seems also to be mythical. It
was originally a sword of St. Paul, and an
old device before the fourteenth century.
GEORGE MARSHALL.
There can be no doubt that Jack
Straw was hanged, in the company of
Robert Starling and other chiefs of the
rebellion, as it was not until the night of"
June 15, 1381, the day of Tyler's death, that
Richard gave authority to a commission,
composed of Sir William Walworth, Sir
John Philpot, and Sir Nicholas Bramber, to-
deal with criminals according to law " or
by other ways ancl means," whereupon
Straw and the others were arrested. Indeed
it is not even strictly accurate to say that
Walworth killed Wat Tyler ; he wounded
Tyler in the shoulder, causing him to fall
on his horse's neck, but the actual coup de
grace came from the sword of John Stand-
wich, one of the King's squires, who followed
up Walworth's blow by instantly running
Tyler twice through the body.
W. A. HUTCHISON.
There is apparently an old tradition that
it was Jack Straw and not Wat Tyler who
was stabbled by William Walworth, Lord
Mayor of London. See ' Life and Death of"
Jack Straw,' Dodsley's ' Old English Plays '
(Hazlitt, 1874, vol. v.). The author isr
unknown. In this play Jack Straw was
stabbed by Walworth. Wat Tyler and
John Ball were hanged after the rebellion
was suppressed.
The heading of the play is as follows : —
" The Life and Death of Jack Strawe a notable
Bebell in England : who was kild in Smithfield
by the Lord Maior of London. Printed at
London by John Danter and are to be sold by
William Barley at his shop in Gratious- Street
over and against Leaden Hall. 1593."
GEORGE DENTON.
Eiverdale Eoad, Sheffield.
218
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 8. V. AUG., 19J9.
STANHOPE (12 S. v. 152). — 3. Edwin
Stanhope, aged 13 in 1742, might be the same
as Edwin Francis Stanhope of St. Maryle-
bone, bachelor, married by special licence
at St. George's, Hanover Square, on Aug. 9,
1753, to Lady Catherine Lyon, widow.
4. Langdale Stanhope's parentage would
seem to be wrongly described by G. F. R. B.
He was the son of John Stanhope of
Grimston, co. Yorks (d. 1704), by Judith,
clau. of Langdale Sunderland of Aketon.
He died s. p. See Hunter's Familise (Harl.
Soc.) iii. 988. It is almost inconceivable
that there should have been two men of this
uncommon name of the same generation.
G. R. Y. R.
BIBLIOGRAPHY OF EPITAPHS (12 S. v. 68.
129, 161, 192).— To previous works should
be added : —
A Collection of Epitaphs in the Ceme-
teries and Churches of S. Pancras, Middlesex.
By Frederick Tcague Gansich. 1872.
These epitaphs relate to Highgate Ceme-
tery, and to the churchyard of Holy Trinity,
Gray's Inn Road only.
Mr. Cansioh was a relative of Dr. Engall, a
homoeopathic practitioner of Euston Square,
who survived him, I think, until about 1890.
Mr. Cansich left unpublished a collection of
Hornsey epitaphs, in which Dr. Engall was
interested ; sufficiently so to arrange my
presence during part of the transcription.
If the collection still exists, it should be
published. The seventeenth century regis-
ters of Hornsey are defective. J. C. W.
FUND FOR PRESERVING MEMORIALS OF THE
DEAD IN IRELAND (12 S. v. 183).— Many of
the printed reports of this society are in the
library of the Society of Genealogists,
5 Bloomsbury Square, and many of them
have been indexed in their Consolidated
Index. The late Col. P. D. Vigors was the
moving spirit in, these invaluable efforts to
save fast -decaying inscriptions.
GEORGE SHERWOOD.
There is a set of the Journal of the Associa-
tion for the Preservation of the Memorials
of the Dead, Ireland, from vol. ii. 1892, in the
library of the Victoria and Albert Museum.
V.
FOLK-LORE : RED HAIR (12 S. ii. 128, 196,
239, 379 ; v. 194).— Rosalind does not say
that Orlando's hair is red. She says it
" is of the dissembling colour," and she
means that it is a mixture dissembling both
red and brown — it is neither one or the
other. Celia says it is " something browner
than Judas's," and in the next line that she
speaks terms it chestnut. Judas's hair is
a yellowish red, and in the sunlight chestnut
hair glints the Judas colour.
W. H. PINCHBECK.
BLUECOAT SCHOOLS (12 S. v. 126, 158). —
Have not 1hese schools differences in their
costume, which should distinguish the boys
of one school from those of another ? 1
When I was staying at Eastbourne six ori
seven years ago, I saw a Bluecoat boy whose
stockings proclaimed that he did not belong
to Christ's Hospital, the colour being
brownish instead of yellow. He told me 1
that he came from Wolverhampton. Some
years previously, whilst waiting for a train
at Malvern, I noticed on the platform a
boy wearing a blue coat (not so long as the
well-known garment) over corduroy trousers
(not breeches) — a most incongruous com-1
bination. I was told that he belonged to a
Bluecoat School, but have forgotten its :
locality ; I think some small town not far
away.
In ' The Queen's Empire.' published many ;
years ago by Cassell & Co., there was a
photograph of the boys and girls of the
Liverpool Bluecoat School at prayers ; but
the scale was too small to show details of
dress.
It would be interesting to know if any of
the provincial schools included in their
original costume the long yellow petticoat
formerly worn at Christ's Hospital (cp. 11 S.
viii. 477, sub ' Charles Lamb's Mrs. S — - ').
G. H. WHITE.
23 Weigh ton Road, Anerle>, S.E.
There was a Bluecoat School for twelve
boys, who received a free education and
clothing, at Bromsgrove School in Worcester-
shire. These boys had a separate elementary
master, and were taught in an outhouse
attached to the Grammar School. I believe
they were abolished about the year 1869,
when Dr. Blore wras headmaster.
W. G. D. FLETCHER.
Oxon Vicarage, Shrewsbury.
An unusual origin is narrated in a work
printed at Ashby-de-la-Zouch in 1852. I
give it in abbreviated form : —
" Mr. Isaac Dawson, the founder of the Blue-
Coat Charity, \vas the son of Mr. John Dawson,
who lived in the principal street in Ashby. The
story is that Mr. Dawson, when on his journey to
York, was stopped and bound by three highway-
men, whom he afterwards succeeded in discover-
ing. They were convicted and executed for the
offence, and under the law then existing Mr.
Dawson became entitled to receive the sum (40Z.)
5 8. V. AUG., 1919.. 1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
219
rable on a capital conviction for highway
bery ; but probably from thankfulness for
escape, and unwillingness to enjoy the money
obtained through the death of others, he
olved on applying it to the foundation of a
alic school, and payment for the preaching of
annual sermon, commemorative of his de-
irance [The boys] are clothed in blue coat,
istcoat and trowsers, with cap and pair of
ads .... The Green-Coat School was founded
1769 by Alderman Newton of Leicester....
he boys] are clothed in green coat, waistcoat
i trowsers, with cap and pair of bands."
Mr. Dp.wson's adventure is described by
:n in a contemporaneous letter dated
,n. 5, 1714-15. I believe both schools
ve ceased to exist as such, being now under
e Educational Authority for the county.
W. B. H.
For a representation of the primitive blue
stum© worn by the girls in one of these
stitutions see the painting ' Children of
e Bluecoat School, Nottingham ' (No. 52
catalogue), by Miss Marjorie C. Bates in
e present exhibition of the Royal Academy.
N. W. HILL.
"ARGYLES" OR GRAVY-POTS (12 S.
154,). — The origin of this name ia at
•esent unsolved. In all probability the
leffield plate manufacturers were the first
• introduce these double- jacketed vessels,
here are many still to be found made by the
der process of plating, though very few
i solid silver. The latter generally bear
all-marks of the early George III. period.
; is possible that this description derived
s origin from the inventor. However, the
lethod of filling an outside lining to contain
ot water was frequently adopted when
laking sauce boats and teapots, as well as
ravy -holders, in former times. Argyles for
eeping gravy or sauce hot are still made in
oth electro - plate and sterling silver
hough not to any considerable extent
tiey are very liable to become bruised if nol
andled carefully, and are very difficult tc
epair satisfactorily. F. BRADBURY.
Arundel Street, Sheffield.
"Argyles" were named after my great
reat - grandfather, John, 5th Duke o
irgyll, and I have several tliPat belonged t
,is son George, 6th Duke, who, I believe
fas the first person that used them. H
ras born in 1766.
I cannot now look at their dates becaus
hey are locked up, but will do so later i
.esired. CONSTANCE RUSSELL.
Swallowfield Park, Reading.
[L. B. also thanked for reply.]
LORD ROBERTS : HOUSE IN WHICH HE
DIED (12 S. v. 125).— In March, 1915, when
I returned from Switzerland, I brought back
several cuttings and written extracts from
Swiss newspapers. All are concerned with
events of the war. On one extract, I now
find, in pencil, " Rue Carnot, St. Omer,
18/11 /14." As the extract is with reference
o Lord Roberts, the street given above is
vidently correct. HERBERT SOUTHAM.
Lord Roberts' s death took place at No.
2 Rue Carnot, St. Omer.
(Rev.) R. PARK.
DEACON IN LOVE (12 S. v. 42, 104, 159). —
^he original Latin text of the ' Registrum T
>f Thomas de Cantilupe has been printed
y the Canterbury and York Society. The
passage required is on p. 206 of pt. ix.
issued March, 1907), which forms part of"
>. 58 of the original. The Latin runs thus :
' Kyngtone, Thomas .... Hugoni de Chalpe-
aore, diacono, salutem &....ad ecclesiam
de Kyngtone. . . .te caritative admittimus."
Dated April 29, 1248.
The extract thus relates to the institution
of a certain deacon to a parish church, but
aot to a chantry, nor is any thing said about
its dedication or its rich endowments. The
3arish church of Kington is still dedicated
:o Our Lady. Was there ever really a
chantry of " Deacon in Love " in the
athedral church of Hereford ? The whole
thing seems to be a mistake in the local
history of 1845. W. A. B. C.
DAUDET'S ' JACK ' : ILLUSTRATIONS BY
MYRBACH (12 S. v. 150). — Referring to the
supposed discrepancy between the Myrbach
drawings and the text, your correspondent
asks : " When were Jack's curls cut off ? 5T
Was it not a gradual process ?
After the child's escape from the Gymnase
Moronval, and his establishment with his
mother and d' Argent on at Etiolles, there is
this further reference to them on the
occasion of the invitation to breakfast by
Madame Rivals : " Charlotte rougit de
plaisir, renoua la cravate de F enfant, fit
bouffer ses beaux cheveux. ..." (p. 244).
When the scene changes to Indret, " apres
les deux annees de liberte et de plein air qu'il
venait de passer aux Aulnettes " (p. 312),
author and artist are at one : " Ses cheveux
blonds, quoique coupes. ..."
My copy bears the Flammarion imprint
(Collection Guillaume), and is dated Paris,
1889. HUGH HARTING.
46 Grey Coat Gardens, S.W.I.
220
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. v. AUG., 1919.
r BOWSHOT : THE LONGEST (12 S. v. 180).—
The subjoined excerpts from an article in
The Manchester Guardian of July, 1905,
may be of interest to COL. SOUTHAM : —
" ' An arrow from a Turkish Bow ' has long been
a poetical illustration of great speed. The recent
announcement of Sir Ralph Payne Gallwey's
remarkable shot with his ancient Turkish bow
may be taken to confirm the poet's opinion. Sir
Ralph Payne Gallwey's arrow has gone further
than any known have been shot by an Englishman
in recent times. Shooting at the new French golf
links of Le Tpuquet, he covered a distance of 367
yards with his best arrow. There seems to be
some doubt whether Sir Ralph Payne Gallwey's
shot can be claimed as a ' record.' Robin Hood's
celebrated shot of ' two North-country miles and
an inch ' has probably been exaggerated by the
chronicler ; indeed it is hinted that the phrase of
' drawing the long bow ' derived its esoteric
meaning from the manner in which archers used
to describe their feats. We do not know whether
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle in ' The White Company'
has authority for the skill with which Hordle John
used to cover a mile in three arrow-flights by
sitting down and drawing the bow \yith his feet,
converting himself, in fact, into a kind of human
cross-bow. Ascham, with all his entertaining lore,
omits to mention the distance to which an arrow
could be sent ; but Neade, a famous archer under
Charles I., states that the ordinary range of the
bow was from 320 to 400 yards. The longest shot
authentically recorded in this country is that of
a secretary of the Turkish Embassy who in 1794
shot an arrow 463 yards with the wind, and 416
against it, in the presence of members of the Royal
Toxophilite Society, who measured the distance
and preserved the arrow."
Like Ascham, Hargrove (' Anecdotes of
Archery,' 1845), "with all his entertaining
lore," is guilty of a similar omission as
regards the distance of an arrow's flight,
mentioning only the modern average of
100 yards. The famous and hitherto un-
beaten record of 1794 could not be chronicled
by him as his ' Anecdotes ' end with the
year 1791. I may add, further, that very
curiously Hordle John's feat is paralleled
by a tradition, according to an eighteenth-
century writer in ' Archseologia,' that
"an attorney of Wigan named Leigh shot a mile in
three flights. He is supposed to have sat on a stool,
the middle of the bow being fastened to one of his
feet ; to have elevated that foot forty-five degrees
and drawn the string of a strong bow with both his
hands."
One wonders whether this tradition is the
basis of Hordle John's exploit.
J. B. McGovERN.
St. Stephen's Rectory, C.-on-M., Manchester.
The long distance bowshot of 236 yards
7 feet (sic) made in 1794, was not the record
bowshot made up to 1913. In ' Archery,'
by C. J. Longman and others (Badminton
Library) many instances of long distance
shooting are given, all exceeding the above
A bowshot of 360 yards was made by £
Mr. Rawson, who died in 1794, and ir
1798 Mr. Troward made a shot of 34(
yards, using a self-bow pulling 63 Ibs.
and flight j arrows 29 inches long. It i<
said of these two instances of distance
shooting that they had not been surpassec
for at least a century or two previously
Mr. Horace Ford in 1856 shot an arro\*
308 yards, his bow being a 68 lb*. self-yew
G. A. Hansard's ' Book of Archery ' (1841)
states that by Act of Parliament (3,
Henry VIII. c. 9), " No person above the
said age of 24 years, shall shoot at anj
mark of eleven score yards or under, wit!
any prick shaft or flight, under the pain tc
forfeit for every shoot, six shillings anc
eight pence." In those days 236 yards wa?
evidently no great distance.
ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
Mahmood Effendij, in 1795, shooting witl:
a Turkish bow, discharged an arrow 482
yards. Mr. Troward, with (?) an English
bow, in 1798, discharged an arrow 340 yards
(See ' Record of Sports,' published by the
Royal Insurance Co., Ltd., May, 1914, p. 26
where other lesser records will be found.
HUGH S. GLADSTONE.
Capenoch, Thornhill, Dumfriesshire.
[MR. W. A. HUTCHISON also thanked for reply.]
KELLOND SURNAME (12 S. v. 154, 189).—
Kellond is probably a variation of Kelland.
a place-name (according to R. S. Charnoek,
' Patronymica Cornu-Britannica ') in Trigg
Hundred, Cornwall, " perhaps etymologicallj
connected with Helland or the same name
as Kellan, q.v. Kil is a neck or promontory
and kelin a holly-tree." " Kellan, this name
may be from Ian, the church, or place en-
closed with a hedge." Bannister, ' Glossary
of Cornish Names,' gives : " Kelland ? grove,
enclosure (Ian), or church."
Hence Kelland may be from two Cornish
words : kel, grove ; Ian, church. But it is tc
be remembered that Celtic custom in place-
names puts the substantive first and the
qualifying words after ; e.g., pen maen maun
is hill, stone, great. The English idiom
would be great stone hill. So Kellan(d)
would be in English Church Grove, i.e., the
grove by the church, not Grove Church, the
church by the grove.
Kellan might assume the d either in-
trusively— as Simonds for Simons, Dymond
for Dyman, Dayman, Dairyman ; or from
the irrepressible desire of copyists to make
sense out of what they do not understand,
12S.V. AUG., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
221
eo Diamond for a fresh corruption of
Dymond. A word ending in -land would
have some dim suggestion of sense to an
Englishman — Ian would be quite unmeaning.
If these two variations are accepted,
Kellond as surname would signify that the
originator of the name came from Kelland in
Cornwall, a place-name equivalent to Church
Grove. (Rev.) F. J. ODELL, RN.
Some references to Kelland of Kelland in
Lapford, co. Devon, and of other places in
the same county may be found in the
Bibliographical Collections of the Devon-
shire Association. M.
GEORGE WASHINGTON'S WEALTH (12 S.
v. 94). — This was undoubtedly very great.
His half-brother Lawrence left Mount Vernon
to him ; while his marriage increased his
property by some $100,000 — " making him
one of the richest men in the Colonies."
Was the source of some of his wealth the
eternal land speculation ?
His biographer writes in the 'Encyclopaedia
Britannica ' of the very outset of his career :
" He always retained a disposition to speculate
in Western lands, the ultimate value of which he
early appreciated ; many of his later investments
of this character are treated in C. W. Butterfield's
' Washington-Crawford Letters ' (1877)."
The fact that he refused all salary musl
of course have contributed to the idea o:
great wealth. GEORGE MARSHALL.
TILLY KETTLE (12 S. v. 154, 189).— MR
LANDFEAR LUCAS will find full particulars ir
Bryan's ' Dictionary of Painters and En
gravers ' (ed. 1886, p. 728), and in the
' Catalogue of the Pictures in Alleyn's
College of God's Gift at Dulwich,' where
there are two portraits (Nos. 582, 583)
him.
The large picture mentioned by Bryan a
having been exhibited at the Academy in
1781, is described in The Gentleman's Maga
zine for 1786, pt. ii. p. 1145, as of the Shah
Allum, the Great Mogul, reviewing the Eas
India Company's troops at Allahabad ; am
it is therein stated that the picture was, ir
1786, at Busbridge House, near Godalming
I take a personal interest in this pictur
because a kinsman of mine appeared in it
He was William Denman, Brigade Major t
Sir Robert Barker, the Commander-in-Chief
and, as the said William Denman died before
Mar. 23, 1777, the picture must have been
painted before Tilly Kettle's return from
India in 1776. Where is it now ?
ARTHUR DENMAN, F.S.A.
12 Harley Gardens, S.W.10.
In the obituary of the Gent. Mag. for
)ec., 1786, occurs the following : —
"Lately, on his way to Bengal, Tilly Kettle,
sq. — His abilities as an artist could only be ex-
eeded by his virtues as a man. Society loses a
tost amiable member, and his family and friends
man endued with every virtue, which rendered
im highly respected, while living, and deservedly
amented. A large piece by him of Sir Robert
barker and other officers having audience of the
^abob, is at Busbridge house, whither he lately
ent a large picture of ihe mother and her seven
hildren martyred by Antiochus."
The Scots Mag. dates his death in Nov.
786. W. R. WILLIAMS.
PROCLAMATION STONES (12 S. v. 178). —
Joyce's ' A Social History of Ancient
"reland,' vol. i. p. 45, gives the following : —
"Each tribe used an inauguration stone — a
ustom common also among the Celts of Scotland.
Some of the inauguration stones had the impression
of two feet, popularly believed to be the exact size
of the feet of the first chief of the tribe who took
3ossession of the territory. Sometimes there was
a stone chair, on which the king sat during a part
of the ceremony."
The laws were recited and the chief swore to •
observe them. Plutarch (' Solon,' 25) tells
how the thesmothetae at Athens swore to
observe the laws at a stone in the market-
place. Sir J. G. Frazer regards the stability
of great stones as the secret of their efficacy
in such rites. The stone at Tara uttered a
roar when a king of the old Milerian race
stood on it, which would no doubt enhance
the efficacy. G. G. L.
ANGUISH STREET (12 S. v. 122, 165,
194). — A Thomas Anguish of Great Rusrell
Street, Bloomsbury, purchased the Manor of "
Oulton High House, with lands, &c., in
Oulton and Lowest oft (deeds dated Dec. 21
and 22, 1772) from Delme Van Heythuson.
Anguish held his first court the following
year. He by his will dated Sept. 3, 1784,
directed his trustees and executors, Sir
William Henry Ashurst, Kt., and John Hare,
to sell the same. This they did in 1789 by
deeds dated Sept. 1 and 2 in that year.
They conveyed the Manor, &c., to Susanna
Blackwell, then of Normanston House. The -
description of the property conveyed was : —
"The Manor or Lordship of Oulton, and the
capital mansion or manor house called Oulton
High House, etc and certain lands in Oulton
and Lowestoft Oulton Broad and Fishings, and
all wastes, court-leets, courts-baron, view of frank-
pledge, and rights, royalties, and appurtenances
except the advowson."
Susanna Blackwellfheld her first court in
1793. 4 H. W. B. WAYMAN.
12A Avenue Chambers, 4 Vernon Place, W.C.I.
222
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. v. AUG., 1919.
THE MILLION BANK (12 S. v. lSl).—The
Gentleman's Magazine and London Magazine
both record the death on Dec. 13, 1765, of
Nathl. Neale, Clerk of Guy's Hospital
(which post he held in 1750), and Secretary
to the Million Bank. His name appears as
such in the Court and City Register for
1759 and 1764, p. 253, where appears a list
of the twenty -four " Directors of the
Million Bank (office, Nagg's Head Court,
Gracechurch Street)," in alphabetical order,
including two M.Ps., Sir Richard Glyn,
Bart., and Sir W. Beauchamp Proctor,
Bart., and such other (then) well-known
city merchants and bankers as Bibye Lake,
Joseph Martin, and Lee Steere. It follows
the Bank of England, East India, South Sea,
and Hudson's Bay Companies, and im-
mediately precedes the Insurance Com-
panies. In 1793 it is given under the
heading of " Trading Companies," and
before the separate " List of London
Bankers," and I should imagine it was more
of a trading than a banking institution. It
disappeared before 1798.
W. R. WILLIAMS.
The following extract is taken from
Lawson's ' History of Banking ' (1850) : —
" About the latter end of 1693 there appeared a
scheme for a bank, commonly called 'The Million
Bank.' It took its rise from a number of London
bankers, who lent out money on pledges, agreeing
to purchase tickets in King William's Million
Lottery, and from thence they were called ' The
Company of the Million Bank.' This bank was
finally established, and its affairs were conducted
by a Board of Directors, consisting of twenty-four
members, including a Governor and Deputy-
Governor; they subsequently purchased ' many
reversions of the Fourteen per Cent, annuities, and
permitted many proprietors of annuities to pur-
chase their joint stock, which amounted to£500,000.
They were a partnership by deed, enrolled in
Chancery, with a joint stock fund."
ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
I would suggest a search at the Public
Record Office, Chancery Lane.
GEORGE SHERWOOD.
'MR. HOWARD,' PORTRAIT OF (12 S.
iv. 18). — I do not know whether this can be
a portrait of John Howard the philan-
thropist. I have a stipple (17 in. by 13 in.)
representing the philanthropist, sitting in. a
chair, holding a scroll in one hand, marked
" Plan of Laenrettos." It was engraved by
Edmund Scott from a portrait by Mather
Brom. He is dressed in the prevailing style.
I have also a pastel (full length) not
named, but , showing what is supposed to
be Howard, sitting in a chair, by a table, on
which is a MS. relating to Prisons. He hole
in one hand a MS. of pome size. It is a
oval about 27 in. by 20 in., beautiful!
coloured — artist unknown.
HOWARD EDWARDS.
2026 Mt. Vernon Street, Philadelphia.
PROVERB : " LET THE WEAKEST GO i
THE WALL" (12 S. v. 177). — The quotatic
from the Rev. George Miller's book wf
given at US. x. 78. The period to whic
the author refers is not clear, but one ma
suppose that it was not earlier than 1540.
W. Carew Hazlitt in his ' English Pr<
verbs,' editions 1882 and 1907. writes s.v
" The weakest goeth to the wall,"
" The title of a play printed 1600 and 1618. Bi
in Scogin's Je*t*, first published in 1540, the phras
is, Even the weakest is thrust to the wall....
Tuvill, in his Kxxay* Morali and The.oloyicall, 160!
p. 187, speaks of this as That common Proverbe <
our owne.
" Sampson. I will take the wall of any man (
maide of the Mountagues.
" Qregorie. That shewes thee a weake slaue, fc
the weakest goes to the wall. — Romeo and Jidie
edit. 1599, sign. A3."
Probably Hazlitt quotes David Erskin
Baker's ' Biograhhia Dramatica ' (2nd ed.
vol. ii. p. 400, a? to the play, entitled ' Th
Weakest goeth to the Wall,' where it i
said to be " Anonymous. Acted by th
Earl of Oxford, Lord Chamberlain of En£
land's servants, 4to, 1600, 4to, 1G18. Tb
scene is laid in Burgundy."
ROBERT PIERPOINT.
DICKENS' s TOPOGRAPHICAL SLIPS (12 S
v. 37, 136, 164, 187).— I have no wish to b
hypercritical, but the evidence of structure
changes at Child's (" Tellson's ") Bank is ver
definite, and the late Mr. Hilton Price mug
be the preferred authority on all relating t
the bank and the changes in its appearance
The allusion in the novel to the cheques i
haphazard because it suggests they wei
then in common use. The whole graphi
reference to the bank is strictly in accor
with its appearance, customs, and tradition
when the novelist saw it ; but he is at fau]
in pre-dating all these suggestions of ag
fifty or sixty years.
I derive some satisfaction in having re
ceived useful comment from MR. \\
COURTHORPE FORMAN.
ALECK ABRAHAMS.
BOULOGNE : REGISTERS AND EPITAPH;
&c. (12 S. v. 181). — In answer to the quer
initialled J. W. F. I am directed to say thf
this Society has in its Great Index copic
of the M.I. at Boulogne, transcribed b
12 S. V. AUG., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
223
ol. Newport -Tinley, a late valued member
' this Society. So far as we know these
we not been printed.
A. E. ROWAN, Secretary.
Society of Genealogists of London,
5 Bloomsbury Square, W.C.I.
The late Col. Newport-Tinley transcribed
>r the Society of Genealogists the English
iscrlptions at Boulogne (Cimitiere de
Est), and also those at Caen (see the
Dciety' s Annual Report, 1913, p. 17).
hey are embodied in our Consolidated
idex, to which Col. Newport - Tinley con-
.•ibuted well over 100,000 index-slips. The
ociety will be glad to send a copy of this
Report or any other (1911-18), to J. W. F.
v others interested in such matters.
GEORGE SHERWOOD.
The .late Col. G. F. Newport-Tinley, C.B.,
stracted the list of tombs from the records
E the Vice-Consulate at Boulogne. This
st was sent to the consul at Boulogne by
tie Maire on Jan. 17, 1851, and was printed
i The British Archivist for November, 1913,
ages 71-74. A. H. W. FYNMORE.
Tarrant Street, Arundel.
AUTHOR OF QUOTATIONS WANTRD (12 S. v. 183). —
3. See 4 The Old Pindaree,' in the late Sir Alfred
yall's 'Verses Written in India.' C. L. S.
0n
Supplement to the Letters of Horace Walpo1<
Chronologically Arranged and Edited, with
Notes and Indexes, by Paget Toynbee, D.Litt.
2 vols. (Oxford University Press, 17s. net.)
LS a letter-writer Horace Walpole is in the first
ank, and, like Edward FitzGerald, he spent the
'est part of his energies on his correspondents.
f he was particular about the fortunes of his
otters, his wishes could not have been more
mply observed than by Mrs. Paget Toynbee,
*hose masterly edition of the ' Letters of Horace
Valpole ' now receives a ' Supplement ' in two
olumes which is a marvel of accuracy and precise
esearch. The larger portion of the second
olume is occupied with additions and corrections
o the long row of Mrs. Toynbee's volumes,
allowed by a list of missing letters, and ' Supple-
lentary Addenda.' We congratulate Dr. Paget
'onybee on the successful completion of what
lust have been a labour of love. The new
olumes were delayed by the War, and we welcome
hem as one of the signs of returning civilization.
lorace Walpole, though a petit maitre, is a master
u his way, and deserves the care bestowed upon
dm. There is not much editing work of this
inal quality about, but all lovers of letters must
vish for more of it in a period largely devoted to
econd-rate writing and slack printing.
A main source of Dr. Toynbee's new material
has been the Waller Collection, which is likely,
we learn, to supply us with two further volumes of
matter Walpole had gathered " for illustration."
Bored by politics, unattracted by relatives, he
lived for his own treasures and the company of his
choice, both within easy reach. Like Horace,
when he avoided the boro, he was always
Nescio quid meditans nugarum et totus in illis."
In the correspondence before us there is much of
interest. The letters to Madame du Deffand are
now complete, and represent one of the writer's
firmest allies. The lady, even when old and blind,
was so active and relentless a seeker after
intellectual and social pleasures as to be somewhat
of a trial to Walpole in Paris. At home he had to
protest against her lachrymose fears of losing his
friendship ; but usually his letters are gay enough ,
full of scandal, epigram and criticism. He is
bored with Montaigne, but able to recommend the
wit of George Selwyn ; he discusses the merits of
' The Castle of Otranto ' and affirms the opinion
he expressed in the preface to the second edition
of the French translation that " Shakespeare a
beaucoup plus d'esprit que Voltaire." Voltaire
was vexed, of course. The notes below the page
give us some of Madame du Deffand's replies.
They both agreed in regarding " common sense "
as a guide of life. But what has " common
sense " to do with the collection of scandal,
antiquities, and the writing of elaborately polished
correspondence ? Three letters to a forgotten
dramatist, Robert Jephson, contain some in-
teresting views on tragedy. Walpole's own verse
is negligible, but he did much to bring Gray
forward. That Walpole could treat a difficult
relative with every care that consideration and
good sense could suggest is shown by his letters
to his brother concerning their mad nephew.
He writes : " I have ever wished to serve and save
my nephew. I have wished to save and restore
the family." All this unhappy business showed
him as very far from an elegant trifler. His com-
pliments to all kinds of correspondents strike one
nowadays as boringly elaborate. We prefer his
epistles to familiar friends. His interests in
pictures and antiquities are incessant, and varied
by news of the Court. To ladies he is always
courtly. His single letter to Miss Bumey begins :
" Humility modest and beautiful as yours,
madam, could alone make you express yourself
to me in terms that make me ashamed ; and I
should be twenty times more ashamed both of
my heart and taste, were I capable of forgetting
so much virtue, sense, and genius as Miss
Burney's." A leisurely world, indeed, when there
was time to begin a letter with so much padding !
A few choice illustrations complete the two
volumes. The prettiest is a miniature of Walpole
as a little boy, dressed in great style and even *^t
that age looking a little complacent.
WARWICKSHIRE RECORDS.
IT has been suggested that a society (to be called
the Dugdale Sociei.y) should be formed for the pub-
lication of manuscript material throwing light on
the history, topography, and antiquities of the
county of Warwick. Though there is a vast mass
of unprinted matter of the highest importance in
various public and private collections, Warwick-
shire is far behind other counties in making its
224
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ancient records accessible to the general reader. It
is requested that anyone interested in this matter,
who would assist in the formation of such a Society,
should communicate with one of the undersigned : —
M. DORMER HARRIS, 16 Gaveston Road, Leaming-
ton : FREDK. C. WELLSTOOD, Shakespeare's Birth-
place, Stratford-upon-Avon.
BOOKSELLERS' CATALOGUES.
WE have just received from Messrs. Maggs Bros,
another of their fine Catalogues, namely, No. 380,
entitled ' Manuscripts and Early Printed Books.'
This profusely illustrated Catalogue contains 36
full-page reproductions of items therein. It is
divided into four parts : Part I. Manuscripts ;
Part II. Incunables ; Part III. Illustrated Books
of the Sixteenth Century ; Part IV. Aldine Press,
and other Rare Books or the Sixteenth Century.
One of the most interesting manuscripts is doubt-
less a French Bible, in 3 vols., written on parchment,
and richly illuminated, which comes from the
library of Diana de Poitier. Diana de Poitier was
the contemporary and perhaps the rival of Grolier
as a book collector. It was the suggestion of Diana
de Poitier that one copy of every book to which the
royal privilege was extended should be printed on
vellum and handsomely bound, and deposited in the
Royal library. This edict was issued by Henry II.
in 1556, but Diana was assuredly at the bottom
of it. Several reproductions from this manuscript
are given, showing us how interesting the
French art of the middle of the fifteenth cen-
tury was. It is a curious fact that both the arms
of Aymar de Poitier, the grandfather of Diana
de Poitier, and Diana de Poitier's arms are
to be found on most of the miniatures, including
the motto " Et puis hola." An English Manuscript
Chronicle, writteu by an English scribe, upon a
roll of vellum, measuring 20ft. 5 in. long by 12 in.
wide, with illuminated border and ornamental
genealogical tree, is a valuable early historical
manuscript. It was presumably completed before
1465, the year in which King Edward IV. was
married to Elizabeth Woodvill. Another Chronicle
of Kneland, written in French by an English
scribe of the fourteenth century, appears at item
1682, arid is a French version of Le Brut, similar to
that in the British Museum. Item 1691 of the
Catalogue is a Twelfth-Century Medical Manu-
script, also written by an English scribe, in Latin,
in the first half of the twelfth century in
England, on vellum. This must be of high im-
portance to a student in medicine.
Many important manuscripts with miniatures
complete Part I. of the Catalogue.
Time and space prevent our dealing at present
with the other three Parts, but we propose to
comment upon them in our next issue.
MESSRS. MYERS & Co., 59 High Holborn,have
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ing Books, Autograph Letters, &c,, containing a
number of items relating to America ; the Edition
de Luxe of the Lea and Dove Edition of Walton's
Angler in morocco extra, Ql. 6s. ; Sir H. Wotton's
Elements of Architecture, 1624, 4Z. 15s.; Sanderus's
Chorographia Sacra Brabantise, 1659-95, 41. 4s. ;
Book of Common Prayer, with arms of Charles I.
on sides, 4L 10s. ; Dickens's Oliver Twist, first octavo
edition, original cloth, 51. 10s. ; Koempher's Japan,
1727, 51. 10s. ; Pettus on Metals, 1683, 4Z. 4s. ; Tom
Brown's Works, 1730, 2Z. 2s ; Churchill's Poe
first collected edition, 1763-65. in a beautiful C
temporary English binding, Ul. ; Milton's Para<
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the works in this catalogue come from the
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and have either their arms on the sides, or
armorial bookplate inside the covers.
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RICHARD WELFORD.
THE death of Mr. Richard Welford, M.A.
Gosforth. near Newcastle-upon-Tyne, on June
last, at the age of 83 years, removes from amor
us an old and valued contributor to ' N. &
His first contribution was sent in Janui
1891, his last in 1915. Durine: the interver
years he sent about two hundred and fourt
separate contributions to ' N. & Q.' Mr. V
ford was a native of Upper Hollowav, but •
brought up in the village of Hadderiham,
Buckinghamshire. He went to Newcastle in 1!
a little while before he reached the age of 18 yei
and resided there for the rest of his life. Aft<
very strenuous ten years' apprenticeship to j<
nalism and literary work generally, which star
on the lowest rung of the ladder, he adopte<
commercial career. In this he was highly succ'
ful ; but it is by his labours as an historian
antiquary, a biographer, and a bibliographer t
he is best known. His chief works are ' A Hist
of the Parish of Gosforth,' 1879; 'A Descripi
and Historical Account of the Monuments in
Church of St. Nicholas, Newcastle-npon-Ty:
1880; 'History of Newcastle and Gateshead in
Fourteenth, Fifteenth, Sixteenth, and Seventee
Centuries,' 1884-7 ; ' Men of Mark 'Twixt T
and Tweed.' 1895 ; ' Early Newcastle Typograp
&c. An obituary notice o/ Mr. Welford was r
at the July meeting of the Newcastle Society
Antiquaries bv Mr. John Oxberry, who said t
when Mr. Welford passed away the North of 5
land saw the end of an eminently useful career,
the friends who knew him bade farewell t
charming personality.
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lication, but as a guarantee of good faith.
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but we will forward advance proofs of &nsv
received if a shilling is sent with the que
nor can we advise correspondents as to the vs
of old books and other objects or as to the meam
disposing of them.
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be "Grasae." — (" Scotchman's Post "): p.!
col. 1, 1. 17 from foot, Arran should be "Annan.
12 8. V. SEPT., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
225
LONDON, SEPTEMBER, 1919
CONTENTS. —No. 96.
NOTES : —Cyril Tourneur : ' The Revenger's Tragedy ' :
« The Second Maiden's Tragedy.' 225— Pyrgo Park and Old
Bow Bridge, 229 -Swift and Mrs. Oldfield, 230— Diirer :
Wilibald Pirkheinaer — Gunnersbury : Buislip, 231— The
Puritan and his Cat—" Man proposes, God disposes "—
Sir Richard Phillips — Mrs. Susan Cromwell, 232 — Mrs.
Grundy — Roger de Gloucester in • Domesday ' —
"Topping" : " Top-hole " — Sundial Motto in Savoy-
Francis Place, Political Economist, 333-Official Peace
Rejoicings, 334.
QUERIES :- Emerson's ' English Traits '—Wordsworth:
•The Excursion,' 234— Richard Challoner— Dennis the
Hangman— Oldfield— " When you die of old age," 235—
David M. Main — Lucien Bonaparte — Feast of the
Assumption— Mary Clarke of New York— Marylebone
Burial Grounds— Wooden Pegs : Screws— R. Griffith—
Maule— Martin— Newton. R.A.— Crusaders' Names, 236
— G. Dyer — ' • Valhalla " — " Buffaloes " — J. Wilson—
Dr. Stocks— Cornwall : Unwritten Book— Caractacus—
Simplon Tunnel— Richenda — Louisa spelt Leweezer — Old
Watch- and Clock-makers—Welsh Pupils of Wilson, R. A.,
237— Standard— " Old Lady of Threadneedle Street "—
Capt. B. Grant— Twining-Haynes Marriage— Shield of
Flanders— Moat Island— Edward the Confessor's Crown
— " Episcopus Recreensis "—Elephant : Oliphant— Col.
Barnard — Birth and Earth Place-names — St. John
Baptist Heads— Poems Wanted, 238— Authors of Quota-
tions Wanted, 239.
REPLIES :— Yeoman of the Mouth, 239— Byron's 'Don
Juan,' 240— William Hoorde— Etchings by T. Parker-
Exeter Cathedral Epitaph— Joseph Knibb, Clockmaker,
241— Church of England Marriage Service-Sir Peter
Denis, 242 — Devonian Priests executed — " Abdolla "—
Ambassador, 243— Miss Helen Maria Williams— Manor
Records, 244— ' Trilby '— R. S. Surtees— Jenner Family-
Grim or Grime— Somerset Incumbents, 245— Exchange of
Souls in Fiction— East Anglian Characters— Hervey or
Hervet — Bird-scaring Songs— Philip Westcott, 246 —
Heredity: Long Hair — Mrs. Anne Button— Cowan—
St. Alkelda, 247—' The Village Blacksmith '— " Argyles "—
Rev. Thomas Hugo, 248— Turner Family— Seven Kings-
Society for Preserving Memorials of the Dead— Robert-
son, 249— Dickens's Topographical Slips— Metal Mortars
— Inscriptions in St. John's, Waterloo Road — The
Houghton Meeting— Portraits on Gravestones— "Pro pelle
cutem "— " Apochromatic "—Col. Colquhoun Grant, 250.
NOTES ON BOOKS :— ' History of the Worshipful Com-
pany of Glaziers in the City of London' — • Milton :
Areopagitica.'
Booksellers' Catalogues. Notices to Correspondents.
CYRIL TOURNEUR:
'THE REVENGER'S TRAGEDY':
* THE SECOND MAIDEN'S TRAGEDY.
THE only Elizabethan, drama that bears on
its title-page the name of Cyril Tourneur is
' The Atheist's Tragedy, or The Honest
Man's Revenge,' printed, "as in divers
places it hath been acted," in 1611. Al-
though Tourneur is also usually credited
with the authorship of ' The Revenger's
Tragedy,' published anonymously iu 1607
and again in 1608, there has been an
increasing tendency to regard his title to
this play as doubtful since Fleay questioned
it some thirty years ago. Prof. F. E.
Schelling remarks that, though consensus
of opinion assigns it to Tourneur, neither in
style nor in characterization does ' The
Revenger's Tragedy ' resemble * The
Atheist's Tragedy,' " above which the former
rises as far aesthetically for the living realism
of its effects, its mastery of horror, and its
passages of poetic power as it falls below the
well-defined moral intent of the earlier play "
(' Elizabethan Drama,' vol. i. p. 568). Prof.
Thorndike (' Webster and Tourneur,' Ameri-
can Book Company, 1912, p. 337) observes
that Tourneur' s authorship of the anonymous
play is " accepted rather than certain."
Another recent critic, Mr. E. H. C. Oliphant,
emphatically rejects its attribution to
Tourneur : —
" I cannot," he says, " conceive of the two plays
as being by the one author. To accept Tourneur
as the writer of ' The Revenger's Tragedy ' we
have to suppose that he alone of the Elizabethan
dramatists did not develop but absolutely revolu-
tionized his manner of writing...! know of no one
among the named writers of the time to whom I
would attribute it, unless it be to Middleton, to
whose verse alone the swing of the verse of ' The
Revenger's Tragedy' makes some,approximation...
I prefer, however, to consider ' The Revenger's
Tragedy ' as the greatest work of its period of that
prolific writer ' Anon.,' and look upon the establish-
ment of the identity of the author as one of the
chief problems to be tackled by students of Eliza-
bethan drama." — ' Problems of Authorship in Eliza-
bethan Dramatic Literature,' Modern Philology,
1911, vol. yiii. pp. 427-8.
The doubts concerning Tourneur' s claim
to ' The Revenger's Tragedy ' are chiefly due
to the unlikeness of its metrical system to
that of ' The Atheist's Tragedy,'' and as
they have found their way into most of
the recent discussions of Tourneur's work,
I determined to make an effort to set
them at rest. In this I venture to
think that I have been successful, having
discovered sufficient internal evidence to
justify the traditional ascription of ' The
Revenger's Tragedy ' to the author of
* The Atheist's Tragedy.' I have also con-
vinced myself, and hope to convince the
reader, that Tourneur was the author of
another anonymous tragedy of this period
which closely resembles ' The Revenger's
Tragedy ' both in plot and technique. This
tragedy is that usually known as ' The
Second Maiden's Tragedy,' a title given to
it by Sir George Buc because the MS. sub-
mitted to him for licensing had " no name
inscribed." "This Second Maiden's Tragedy
(for it hath no name inscribed)," runs the
licence, " may, with the reformations, bee
acted publicly. 31 October, 1611, G. Buc."
It is printed in Hazlitt's ' Dodsley ' (vol. x.),
226
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. v. SEPT..
with a prefatory note from which we learn
that the name of " William Goughe " is
written on the back of the manuscript,
subsequently altered to " G. Chapman," and
this again to " Will. Shakespeare." Nothing
is known of any William Goughe, and it is
inconceivable that either Chapman or
Shakespeare can have had a hand in the
play. As the chief figure of the tragedy is
called simply "The Tyrant," it has been
suggested that it may be identifiable with a
play of that name entered in the Stationers'
Register by Moseley in 1660 as Massinger's.
WThether this be so or not, ' The Second
Maiden's Tragedy ' has nothing in common
with any known work of Massinger's, nor is
there any evidence that Massinger was writ-
ing for the stage so early as 1611. Fleay
believed that it was written by the author,
not of ' The Atheist's Tragedy,' but of
* The Revenger's Tragedy.' There is no
doubt whatever in my mind that all three
plays are the work of one hand, and that the
hand of Cyril Tourneur.
On comparing the texts of ' The Atheist's
Tragedy ' and ' The Revenger's Tragedy '
one of the first points I noted was that
colloquial contractions of the smaller parts
of speech — and especially 't for " it " were
unusually common in both plays. On
examining ' The Second Maiden's Tragedy '
I found these contractions even more
numerous. Used in association with the
common words " do," " for," " in," "on,"
" upon," " is," " was," and " to," the
contraction of "it" to 't ("do't," " for't,"
" in't," &c.) will be found about 20 times
in ' The Atheist's Tragedy,' nearly 50 times
in ' The Revenger's Tragedy,' and over
70 times in ' The Second Maiden's Tragedy.'*
The plays do not differ greatly in length,
and the lack of uniformity in the figures is
doubtless to be accounted for by differences
of date. Besides the above we find
" confer't," " done't," " mak't," " sha't,"
" then't," " under't " in ' The Atheist's
Tragedy'; " and't," " else't," " gi'en't,"
" keep't," " o'er't," " take't," " were't " in
' The Revenger's Tragedy ' ; and " bestow' t,"
" by't," " have't," " know't," " me't," " par-
don't," " recover't," " restore't," " turn't"
" unto't," " with't " in ' The Second
Maiden's Tragedy.' This is not conclusive
evidence of Tourneur's authorship, for there
* I have (perhaps unwisely) assumed that the
modern reprints of the plays in the Mermaid
edition of Webster and Tourneur and Hazlitt's
' Dodsley ' (here used) accurately reproduce the
early copies so far as this contraction is con-
cerned.
are other dramatists of the period (Middled
for instance) who use this elision just
freely, but it is an important feature comm
to the three plays.
Though rime is much more abundant
' The Revenger's Tragedy ' than in * T
Atheist's Tragedy,' both contain a lai
number of rimed couplets. These are of t
sententious, moralizing type found also
Webster, and, later, in Ford. But t
author of ' The Atheist's Tragedy ' and ' 1
Revenger's Tragedy ' is much niore addict
to antithesis than either of these t1
dramatists. Fully one-third of the coupl
in each play are antithetical. Here are soi
of those in ' The Atheist's Tragedy ' : —
Let all men lose, so I increase my gain,
I have no feeling of another's pain.
Act I. sc. i., Mermaid Edn., p. 249
And fear not that your profit shall be small ;
Your interest shall exceed your principal.
I. ii. 254
But we may say of his brave blessed decease
He died in war, and yet he died in peace.
III. i. 289
I've buried under these two marble stones
Thy living hopes, and thy dead father's bom
III. i. 290
and, from ' The Revenger's Tragedy ' : —
But there's a cold curse laid upon all maids
Whilst others clip the sun, they clasp the shad
II. i. 369
If all feared drowning that spy waves ashore,
Gold would grow rich, and all the merchants pc
II. i. 370
Age hot is like a monster to be seen ;
My haii-s are white, and yet my sins are gre
II. iv. 383
As much as the dumb thing can, he shall feel
What fails in poison, we'll supply in steel.
'III. iv. 393
Couplets are less abundant in ' The Seco
Maiden's Tragedy ' than in ' The Atheis
Tragedy ' and there is much less antithej
But it appears now and then, e.g. : —
I wish no better to bring me content,
Lovers' best freedom is imprisonment.
Hazlitt, ' Dodsley/ x. 394
And yet confess too that you found me kind
To hear your words, though I withstood y<
mind. P. 410
So by imprisonment I sustain great loss,
Heav'n opens to that man the world keeps clc
P. 426
The money ne'er will thrive, that's a sure st
What's got from grace is ever spent in law.
P. 444
Tourneur does not repeat phrases to a
noticeable extent, and though in his ea]
satirical poem ' The Transformed Me1
morphosis ' there is a deal of outlandi
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227
jargon, there is nothing very distinctive in
the vocabulary of his plays. In view of its
traditional association with his name little
more in the way of internal evidence will be
required to complete the proof of his
authorship of 'The Revenger's Tragedy.'
It will doubtless be sufficient to draw atten-
tion to the following points : —
1 The author of ' The Revenger's Tragedy,'
besides riming "another" with "mother,"
" brother " with " mother," " others " with
" mothers," and " brother " with " t'other,"
twice rimes " brother " with " another " : —
Vendice. Come, mother, sister : you'll bring
me onward, brother ?
Hippolito. I will.
Vendice. I'll quickly turn into another.
1. 1. tV,Ld •
I rise just in that place,
Where thou'rt cut off ; upon thy neck, kind
brother ;
The falling of one head lifts up another.
III. i. 385.
This "brother" — "another" rime occurs
also in ' The Atheist's Tragedy ' : —
.... gentle love and noble courage are
So near allied, that one begets another ;
Or Love is sister, and Courage is the brother.
I. iv. 260.
2. In ' The Atheist's Tragedy,' I. i.,
Borachio sententiously observes : —
Wealth is lord
•Of all felicity,
and D'Amville replies : —
'Tis oracle.*
For what's a man that's honest without wealth ?
So in ' The Revenger's Tragedy ' (end of
IV. i.) when Lussurioso remarks to the
nobles of the Duke's court : —
What in us
Would appear light, in him [i.e., the Duke] seems
virtuous.
the " 3rd Noble " answers : —
'2'is oracle, my lord.
3. In ' The Atheist's Tragedy,' I. ii. 251,
Belforest observes to Charlemont that no
time should be employed in compliments,
But what our serious business will admit,
;and at IV. iii. 316, D'Amville speaks of the
ghost of Montferrers as
A fool unfit to be employed in
Any serious business for the state of hell.
Compare, in I. ii. of ' The Revenger's
Tragedy ' (last speech of the Duke) : —
About it, then, my lords, with your best powers ;
More serious business calls upon our hours.
4. In ' The Atheist's Tragedy,' IV. iii. 312,
Castabella, on hearing the vile proposals of
the " atheist " D'Amville, exclaims : —
O patient Heaven ! Why dost thou not express
Thy wrath in thunderbolts, to tear the frame
Of man in pieces ? How can earth endure
The burthen of this icickedness without
An earthquake ? Or the angry face of Heaven
Be not inflamed with lightning ?
Compare with this Vendice' s outburst in
' The Revenger's Tragedy,' II. i. 372 : —
Why does not Heaven turn black, or with a froivn
Undo the world ? Why does not earth start up ,
And strike the sins that tread upon't ?
and again (IV. ii. 411) : —
0 thou almighty patience ! 'tis my wonder
That such a fellow, impudent and wicked,
Should not be cloven as he stood ;
Is there no thunder left ; or is't kept up
In stock for heavier vengeance ?
So far as the language of the two plays is
concerned, this is the only striking parallel
1 can find. But there can scarcely be any
question as to its significance.
Now for the evidence as to ' The Second
Maiden's Tragedy.' Though in ' The
Atheist's Tragedy ' and ' The Revenger's
Tragedy ' we find the same atmosphere of
vice and corruption, the same ingenuity in
devising horrible situations and morbid
satisfaction in revealing the uttermost
depths of depravity, there is no close
resemblance so far as their plots are con-
cerned. But it is different with ' The Second
Maiden's Tragedy.' This contains a gro-
tesquely horrible incident — the painting by
Govianus of the lips and face of his dead wife
with poison as a means of revenge upon the
Tyrant who has sought to supplant him in
her affections — all but identical with a
device appearing in ' The Revenger's
Tragedy,' where Vendice wreaks vengeance
upon the ravisher of his dead mistress by
poisoning the lips of her skull. And there
are other significant points of resemblance
in the plots of these two plays. As Dr. Stoll
has pointed out,* Helvetius's endeavour to
persuade his daughter to yield to the ad-
vances of the Tyrant (' S.M.T.,' II. i.) and
Votarius's tempting of the wife of his friend
Anselmus at the latter's instigation (' S.M.T.,'
IV. i.) together contain all the elements of
Vendice' s temptation of his mother and
sister (' R.T.,' II. i.). Helvetius's conversion
by his daughter and son-in-law ('S.M.T.,'
II. i.) is remarkably like the conversion of
* The punctuation of the Mermaid edition,
•*' 'Tis, oracle " is obviously incorrect.
* See the ' Sketch of the Development of
(Plays of) the Revenge Type ' in his ' John
Webster,' pp. 114-5.
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Gratiana through her children. ('R.T.,'
IV. iv.), and, as in the case of the Duke in
' The Revenger's Tragedy,' the sufferings of
Anselmus when at the point of death are
intensified by the revelation of his wife's
infidelity (' R.T.,' III. iv. ; ' S.M.T.,' V. i.).
There are so many points of contact here
that it is obvious that some relation exists
between the two plays ; either the author of
' The Second Maiden's Tragedy ' borrowed
from ' The Revenger's Tragedy ' or both
plots originated in the same brain. It
remains to be shown that, little as Tourneur
repeats himself, there are yet sufficient traces
in * The Second Maiden's Tragedy ' of the
language and sentiments of ' The Atheist's
Tragedy ' and ' The Revenger's Tragedy ' to
exclude any doubt as to their common
authorship. The clearest of these traces
will be found in the passages set forth
below : —
1. ' Second Maiden's Tragedy,' I. ii. 396
(Ariselmus, the brother of the deposed
King Govianus, tells his friend Votarius
that, far from being overwhelmed with
grief at his deposition, Govianus was never
so happy) : —
He's lost the kingdom, but his mind's restored
Which is the larger empire ? prythee, tell me :
Dominions have their limits ; the whole earth
Is but a prisoner, as the sea her jailor
That with a silver hoop locks in her body.
But the unbounded kingdom of the mind
Is as unlimitable as heaven.
' The Atheist's Tragedy,' III. iii. 298
(Charlemont is here speaking to Sebastian,
whose father, D'Amville, has dispossessed
him of his inheritance) : —
I have a heart above the reach
Of thy most violent maliciousness ;
I was a baron. That thy father has
Deprived me of. Instead of that I am
Created king. I've lost a signiory
That was confined within a piece of earth,
A wart upon the body of the world,
But now I am an emperor of a world,
This little world of man.
2. ' Second Maiden's Tragedy,' II. i. 409
(second speech of Helvetius) : —
I'll sooner give my blessing to a drunkard
Whom the ridiculous power of wine makes humble,
As foolish use makes thee.
' Atheist's Tragedy, II. ii. 270 (D'Amville
to Borachio, calling his attention to three
men-servants who are tippling close at
hand) : —
Their drunkenness, that seems ridiculous,
Shall be a serious instrument to bring
Our sober purposes to their success.
3. ' Second Maiden's Tragedy,' IV. iii. 4^
(a soldier is raising the stone that cove
the " Second Maidens " tomb) : —
'Tis the first stone that ever I took off
From any lady ; marry, I have brought 'em man
Fair diamonds, sapphires, rubies.
' Atheist's Tragedy,' II. iv. 277 (Borachi
who has killed Montferrers with a ston
describes the murder to D'Amville) : —
. . . .ere his faltering tongue
Could utter double O, I knocked ou,trs brain?
With this fair ruby, and had another stone
Just of this form and bigness ready.
4. ' Second Maiden's Tragedy,' V. ii. 41
(Govianus, having poisoned the Tyrar
throws off his disguise and reviles his victi
for his sacrilegious exhumation of tl
maiden's body) : —
Thou thief of rest, robber of monuments !
Cannot the body, after funeral
Sleep in the grave for thee ? must ft be rais
Only to please the wickedness of thine eye ?
Do all things end with death, and not thy Ius1
' Atheist's Tragedy,' III. i. 292-3 (Charlemo:
discovers the monument of his murden
father) : —
Of all men's griefs must mine be singular ?
Without example ? Here I met my grave,
And all men's woes are buried i'their graves
But mine.
5. ' Second Maiden's Tragedy,' II. ii. 425
Tyrant. Sophonirus !
Here take this jewel, bear it as a token
To our heart's saint, 'twill do thy words no ham
Speech may do much, but wealth's a greater char
Than any made of words.
' Revenger's Tragedy,' I. iii. 355 : —
Lussurioso (giving money to Hippolito).
We thank thee : yet words are but great met
blanks ;
Gold, though it be dumb, does utter the lx
thanks.
6. ' Second Maiden's Tragedy,' II. i. 418 :
Votarius. . . . .thy once crack'd honestv
Is like the breaking of whole money :
It never comes to good, but wastes away.
* Revenger's Tragedy,' I. iii. 358 : —
Lussurioso. . . . .honesty
Is like a stock of money laid to sleep
Which, ne'er so little broke, does never keep
A few words may be added on the subje
of the date of ' The Atheist's Tragedy
Apart from the doubts as to the authentic!
of ' The Revenger's Tragedy ' there has be<
a good deal of discussion as to whether tl
or ' The Atheist's Tragedy ' was written firs
Though ' The Revenger's Tragedy ' w
registered and published in 1607, ' Tl
Atheist's Tragedy' not until 1611, Prc
Churton Collins and others have inferre
from the " immaturity " of ' The Atheist
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229
Dragedy ' that it was written before ' The
Revenger's Tragedy.' Dr. Stoll ('John
Webster,' Appendix I.) combats this view,
irguing that a comparison of their metrical
characteristics favours the presumption that
he dates of registration and publication of
he two plays indicate approximately the
lates of composition. He points particu-
arly to the more sparing use of rime and the
ibundant light and weak endings in ' The
Uheist's Tragedy ' as marks of a later stage
n the development of Tourneur's metrical
echnique. I think there can be no doubt
hat Dr. Stoll is right. Many small points
)f difference between the two plays show
hat they are separated by a considerable
nterval of time. For instance, the con-
ractions ha1 ( = "have") and o' for "of"
not followed by the definite article) are as
tbund-ant throughout the text of ' The
Atheist's Tragedy ' as they are rare in
The Revenger's Tragedy.' But there are
ither peculiarities in ' The Atheist's Tragedy '
>f greater significance in their bearing on the
[uestion of its date. The diction of this play
5 much more elaborate and stilted than that
if * The Revenger's Tragedy.' Unlike the
itter play, its text bristles with polysyllabic
touns terminating in -tion. Now the
,bundance of these -tion words is equally
Loticeable in Tourneur's ' Funeral Poem on
he Death of Sir Francis Vere,' written in
609. This strongly favours the pre-
umption that they were written much about
he same time. And there is another small
>oint that confirms this presumption,
["ourneur, as I have remarked, has few
incommon words in his plays. This makes
t the more noticeable that three times in one
cene of ' The Atheist's Tragedy ' (I. iv.) he
ias the word " hability " (Fr. habilete). He
blso uses this noun, as well as the adjective
' hable," in ' Vere.' I have noted it
lowhere else either in his plays or poems.
It is curious that although ' The Second
laiden's Tragedy ' (licensed 1611) resembles
The Atheist's Tragedy ' in its compara-
ively sparing use of rime, it seems closer to
The Revenger's Tragedy ' in plot, metre,
.nd diction. Tourneur here shows no
narked partiality for nouns in -tion.
Vhether we are to infer that this partiality,
o clearly exhibited in ' The Atheist's
Dragedy ' and ' Vere,' was only a passing
>hase, or that ' The Second Maiden's
Dragedy ' was written many years before it
cached the licenser's hands, is a question
ipon which I hesitate to express an opinion.
H. DUGDALE SYKES.
En field.
PYRGO PARK AND OLD BOW
BRIDGE.
IT ought not to be forgotten, when the
ancient estate of Pyrgo Park (between
Romford and Brentwood, and occupying a
delightfully picturesque position in rura-1
Essex, although only a walking distance
from industrial East London), again comes
up for private sale, by Lord O'Hagan, that it
includes an interesting association with the
Old Bow Bridge across the Lea River at a
point — dingy and forlorn as it now is —
which is compact with thronging memories
of the long past. The present mansion at
Pyrgo, raised in the Classic Italian style,
erected upon the site of a former residence,
but not upon the actual site of the ancient
Palace, was built in part in 1836 from a
design by Sabin, and completed in 1852 by
Messrs. Cubitt & Sons. In 1862 it was
enlarged under the able and active super-
intendence of Barry, and during the occu-
pation of Lord O'Hagan it has been further
greatly improved by the addition of the
picture gallery, by the conversion of the
conservatory into a lounge and billiard-room,
&c. So, if a thousand years ago the status
of the old Manor of Havering-Bower was
more exalted among the conglomerating
Saxons and other tribes from oversea, the
conditions were far less luxurious. The county
historians tell us that Havering-Bower is
one of the manors into which the Haver-
ing Liberty was divided, that " Liberty "
being 9 miles in length from north to south,
and 4| miles in its greatest width from east
to west, but near the Thames it is not above
three-quarters of a mile. In the time of the
Saxons it wap an old demesne of the Crown,
the park covering 1000 acres ; and, being
one of the royal palaces, it was created into
a " Liberty," independent of the adjoining
Hundred of Becontree, or, indeed, of any
jurisdiction, either ecclesiastical or civil, of
the county : de facto itself a tribunal for
life and death. The reason of this seems
to have been that, the kings of newly united
" Angle-land " having here a hunting lodge
at which they passed much of their time,
their officers should take cognizance of
crimes and misdemeanours within the pale
of the demesne, and that offenders should
receive sentence under their more immediate
inspection ; or else it was a privilege usually
belonging to royal palaces.
The name of Havering is plainly derived
from two Saxon words, and means " Goats'
Pasture." Philip Morant, the eighteenth-
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century antiquary and collator, notes
another derivation which he says is quite
" legendary and fabulous." The substance
is that St. John the Evangelist, under the
guise of an old beggar, asked alms of
King Edward the Confessor. The King,
having nothing else at hand ready to
bestow upon him, gave him a ring off
his finger. Some years after, St. John
sent him this ring back by two English
pilgrims to Rome, with wrarning that
he would die within six months. They
delivered the message and ring to him at
Havering-Bower, which was the accustomed
retiring place of the Saxon kings, and
particularly of King Edward the Confessor,
for he took a great delight in its woody
solitudes as fitting for his private devotions
and saintly meditations. The suffix of
" Bower " added to it meant that it included
the Dower House — as in the case of Rosa-
mund's Bower at Woodstock. Georgian
writers concur in describing the area as a
most charming spot in their clay, " having a
beautifully expansive prospect over a great
part of Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent, Middle-
sex, and Surrey, and also a view of the
Thames with shipping continually sailing up
and down."
And besides the palace here vouched to
have been built there was another near by
at Pyrgo which belonged to the Queens of
England for centuries, where they resided at
their own conveiiiency, and probably during
their widowhood or the absence of their
spouses on the wars. For Havering was
usually part of the queen's jointure.
Matilda, the wife of King Henry I., built
Old Bow Bridge across the Lea in order to
get to " Pyrgo " without danger at the
ferry, and " as a mark of gratitude for her
preservation from the peril of a great flood
that beset the River Lea." Eleanor, Queen
of King Edward I., appears to have enjoyed
Pyrgo's peace ; and it otherwise appears that
in her time both Havering-Bower and Pyrgo
hfl.d parks. In the time of Anne, Queen of
King Richard II., who held this Manor of
Havering in dower, it was valued at 100Z.
per annum. The old Georgian scholars used
to suggest that " Pyrgo " (the name has
been most variously spelt through the ages)
derives its title from the fact that it was
originally a park gateway before the Dower
House itself was erected and its own demesne
and park created out of the primeval forest
land. Joan, widow of King Henry IV., died
there in July, 1437. When Queen Mary was
made the medium of pacification between
her father and the Emperor Charles V., she
was residing with! her brother Edward a
her sister Elizabeth at Havering-BoM
Coming to post-Reformation times,
is seen that Queen Elizabeth, in Ap
1559, granted to Sir John Gray the i
and capital messuage of Pyrgo and 1
appurtenances and park. This Sir J<
Gray was the second son of Thomas Gri
the Marquis of Dorset who was the grand;
of Sir John Gray and Elizabeth Woodvi
afterwards Queen of King Edward !
And his eldest brother, Henry Gray, Di
of Suffolk, was the father of the Lady Jf
Gray, the Nine Days' Queen of Engla]
The estate was eventually sold to Sir Thon
Cheke, grandson of the learned Sir Jo
Cheke, who had got it, apparently,
one of the tutors of King Edward ^
When that family had died out it ca:
to Thomas Archer by marriage, and
was created Baron Archer on July 14, 17
and was the holder of the property a
in residence when Philip Morant publish
his portly tomes on the history and arc
quities of the county of Essex.
For the assistance of those who explore 1
county by map it may be stated that 1
Manor of Dagenham "stands south-east
Pyrgo, bordering upon South Weald ; a
that the road is, at normal times and seaso
tolerably good, and certainly is full of inter
to all concerned in Old England and its Ic
and varied history. Me,
SWIFT AND MBS. OLDFIELD. — In
' Journal to Stella,' Swift, under date April
1713, writes : —
" I was this morning at ten at the rehearsal
Mr. Addison's play, called Cato, which is to
acted on Friday. There were not above haU
score of us to see it. We stood on the stage, i
it was foolish enough to see the actors promp
every moment, and the poet directing the
and the drab that acts Cato's daughter, out in
midst of a passionate part, and then calling
' What's next ? ' '
Resenting this uncomplimentary appellati
Mr. Fyvie in his ' Tragedy Queens of 1
Georgian Era,' 1909, runs to Mrs. Oldfiel
protection, sword in hand : —
" Swift's reference to her as ' the drab t
acts Cato's daughter ' is merely an instance of
habit that acrid genius had of flinging his
grading epithets indiscriminately at high i
low."— P. 57.
Though Swift could, on occasion, rage w
volcanic fury, the 'Journal' (1710-13), a
whole, displays an evenness of temper wh
is seldom ruffled save by excessively 1
weather, or when his man absents hims
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:ey in^pocket, and he is forced, to pace
!helsea " embankment " till the small
tours of the morning. A letter written by
Jeorge Berkeley to Sir John Percival affords,
suggest, an indication of what was passing
H Swift's mind as he penned the entry of
Lpril 6. Dating May 7, 1713, Berkeley
'b serves : —
" Mr. Addison's play has taken wonderfully,
hey have acted it now almost a month, and
vould, I believe, act it a month longer were it not
hat Mrs. Oldfleld cannot hold out any longer,
laving had for several nights past, as I am
nformed, a midwife behind the scenes, which is
;urely very unbecoming the character of Cato's
laughter."
L quote this passage from Benjamin Rand's
Correspondence of George Berkeley, after-
yards Bishop of Cloyne, and Sir John
Percival, afterwards Earl of Egmont,' 1914
at p. 115). I quote it because it "may
iccount indifferently well," to use an ex-
aression from ' Tom Jones,' for Swift's
contemptuous utterance. But I do not
}uote it for the purpose of throwing mud
it Mrs. Oldfield ; on the contrary, the
situation, as recently disclosed, serves to
show how great was her personal courage.
J. PAUL DE CASTRO.
il Essex Court, Temple.
DtJRER : WlLIBALD PlRKHEIMER. — I want
to call the attention of your readers to what,
I believe, is a little joke of Albert Diirer's
about his friend Wilibald Pirkheimer. About
twenty-five years ago I was browsing among
old books on astrology at the British Museum
Library, a subject in which the late Dr.
Richard Garnett, then head librarian, was
not merely a student, but a firm believer,
and the writer of a valuable essay on ' The
Soul and the Stars.' Among other horo-
scopes of famous men, I copied out one of
Pirkheimer. I regret that in this case I did
not make a note of the book from which
I copied it, but perhaps another reader can
supply this.
Pirkheimer was born at Nuremberg on
Tuesday, Dec. 4, 1470, at 1.30 A.M., when
the eleventh degree of Libra or the Balance
was rising on the eastern horizon or Ascen-
dant. Now, on one day looking at a repro-
duction of Diirer's woodcut of the Four
Riders of the Apocalypse, I was at once
struck by the strong resemblance of the
rider with the Balance to Diirer's well-
known engraved portrait of his friend.
The only difference is that the man in the
woodcut of 1498 is an older man than
Pirkheimer then was, but otherwise the face
Is identical, a square massive one of an
unusual type. Any one by comparing
reproductions can see this for himself. The
whole of Diirer's engraved works is accessible
in various publications, of which the
cheapest are the admirable " Klassiker der
Kunst Series," ' Deutsche Vertags-Anstalt,'
Stuttgart, 1906, and Hachette's " Les
Classiques de 1'Art." Diirer also designed
a book-plate for Pirkheimer, and did some
astrologic drawings for a book which his
friend contemplated but did not publish.
Pirkheimer was a learned man, and also, if
we are to believe certain jests in Diirer's
letters to him from Venice, rather a Don
Juan. He wrote the epitaph of his friend,
and is the origin of the legend that the great
artist's wife was a shrew.
HAMILTON MINCHIN.
GUNNERSBURY i RUISLIP. — Johnston's
' Place-Names of England and Wales ' states
that the name " Gunnersbury " denotes the
town or dwelling of Gunner, the English
form of Norwegian Gunnair, and that its
earliest occurrence dates from the fifteenth
century ; while the modern " Ruislip," repre-
sented by an archaic Ryselippe, is explained
as the leap of Ruga, a hypothetical indivi-
dual of whose actual name earlier forms are
desired. Both these conjectures can now be
dismissed as erroneous.
In a letter of great historical value to The
Times Literary Supplement MR. J. HARVEY
BLOOM, after an examination of certain
unpublished records at Compton Verney
belonging to Lord Willoughby de Broke,
gives minute details concerning the estates
owned in 1380 by Alice Ferrers, the reputed
mistress of Edward III., and her husband,
Sir William de Wyndesor, situated in fifteen
different counties, among which are men-
tioned " the manors of Rischlep and
Gunnoldsbury " in the county of Middlesex.
Hence it follows that Gunnersbury derives
its name from an early settler in the Baling
district called Gunnold or Gunnild, synony-
mous with the Norwegian Gunhild, or
Gunhilda, which, like the Wagnerian
Brynhild or Brunhilda is a woman's name ;
and that the word Ruislip is compounded
of A.-S. ruse, M.E. risce, a rush -j- hlyp, a
leap, also an enclosure, as in Rishangles,
Rishton, Rissington, Hindlip, Islip, &c.
This discovery well illustrates the import-
ance of research among the earliest available
records for all disputed place-names, and
the too common fallacy of attributing the
majority of such names to an eponymous or
tribal Teutonic source. N. W. HILL.
35 Highbury Place, N.
232
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. v. SEPT., 191%
THE PURITAN AND HIS CAT. (See 12 S.
iii. 360, 393, 455).— Richard Brathwaite's
' Barnabae Itinerarium ' (first published
1038) contains the famous lines : —
To Ban bury came I, 0 profane one !
Where I saw a Puritane one
Hanging of his cat on Monday,
For killing of a mouse on Sunday.
The play 'Pathomachia or The Battell of
Affections ' (described when printed in 1630
as " Written some yeares since, and now
first published by a Friend of the deceassed
Author ") appears to have been written
about 1616 by Thomas Tomkis of Trinity
College, Cambridge, author of the plays
' Lingua ' and ' Albumazar.' (It occurs
also in Harl. MS. 6869 and Bodleian MS.
Eng. misc. e.o.) Here in Act II. sc. v. we
have mention of " some factions [perhaps
* factious '] men whereof one of late killed
his Cat because it kil'd a Mouse on Sunday."
Again, in the lines ' On my Lute-stringes
Catt bitten,' by the accomplished Thomas
Master of New College, the friend and
literary assistant of Lord Herbert of Cher-
bury — lines found often in MS. collections
(e.g., Rawl. Poet 206, p. 59, and 147, p. 104,
and printed in Dr. Smith's and Sir John
Mennes' ' Musarum Delicise ') we have: —
Puss, I will curse thee, maist thou dwell
With some dry Hermite in a Cell
Where Ratt nere peept e, wher mouse nere fedd,
And flyes go supperless to Bedd,
Or with some close-parde Brother, where
Thou'st fast each Sabboth in ye yeare ;
Or els (prophane) bee hangde on Monday
For butchering a Mouse on Sunday.
Master died in 1643, at the age of 40, and
these lines may have been written before
Brathwaite's, though not before Tomkis' s,
allusion. There are perhaps other references
to the jest which I have not come across.
G. C. MOORE SMITH.
Sheffield.
"MAN PROPOSES, GOD DISPOSES." — It
may, perhaps, be of interest to note with
regard to this proverb that in seven lan-
guages the jingle is preserved. This, no
cloubt, is not very remarkable in the case
of the Romance nations, as they all bor-
rowed from a common source, and though
Ariosto wrote " Ordina I'liomo e Dio dis-
pone," the rendering " L'uomo propone
e Dio dispone " may be found in a modern
Italian - English dictionary. Latin has
" Homo proponit et Deus disponit," French
" L'homme propose et Dieu dispose," and
Spanish " El hombre pone y Dios dispone."
England has taken the saying, not from an
Anglo-Saxon source, but from the Latin :
it is found for the first time, I believe, iit
' Piers Plowman ' in a Latin form, and it*-
occurs again in ' The Imitation.' What,,
however, is more striking than any of the-
above versions is that German has " Der
Mensch denkt, Gott lenkt," and Russian,.
" Cheloviek predpolagaetaBograspodagaet."
Russian scholars who read ' N. & Q.' —
and there are several of them, I know —
will not be too hard on me, I hope, if I haver
not rendered the Russian lettering into
English with the nearest possible approach
to accuracy. Possibly, of course, the version.
I have given is merely a translation of the!
English, and is not a proverb in current use»j
among the Russian people.
T. PERCY ARMSTRONG.
SIR RICHARD PHILLIPS. — In discussing:;
(11 S. x. 463) this author-publisher's un-1
familiar work ' A Personal Tour through,
the United Kingdom,' issued by his son.
Horatio Phillips in parts, commencing 1828r
I was uncertain as to its extent and what the-
author intended to accomplish. Thes&l
points are definitely settled in a letter!
addressed by him to William Hone (then at
Newington Green) from 8 Marlboro' Square,.
Chelsea, Dec. 19, 1829: —
" I mean to prosecute my tour as a downright-]
fagging job, to the extent of 40 or 50 parts or
7 or 8 volumes. I have copy for 7 parts, but
wait for the public to buy and read. My reception
everywhere, good as it was, will be improved, and
the excursion become memorable ! 1 wanted a.
companion like you, but as it was, L found
materials in superabundance. I could write
3 parts for 1, but I dare not dwell far fear o£'
becoming dull and prosing.
" There are Book Societies at Newington Green
and they ought to be of my readers. What an
old-fashioned place ! I often meditate on what
London will be, if it last, 'till all the New buildings
get of that age.
" What a No. of odd and curious people I found
everywhere ! I converted most of them by some
means or other, though in a preliminary route L
was less understood than I could have wished to>
be. I often wanted Cruikshank."
ALECK ABRAHAMS.
MRS. SUSAN CROMWELL. (See " Rabsejr
Cromwell, alias Williams," 12 S. ii. 136.)—
The following is taken from ' The Book of
Days,' edited by R. Chambers, 1863, vol. i.
pp. 305-6, under February 28 : —
"On the 28th of February, 1834, died, at the age
of ninety, Mrs. Susan Cromwell, youngest daughter
of Thomas Cromwell, Esq., the great-grandson oi
the Protector. She was the last of the Protector s
descendants who bore his name. The father of this
lady, whose grandfather, Henry Cromwell, had
been Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, spent his life 11
the modest business of a grocer on Snow-hill ; ne
128. V. SEPT, 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
233
, however, a man of exemplary worth, fit to
ave adorned a higher station. His father, who was
major in King William's army, had been born
Dublin Castle during his father's lieutenancy
t may be remarked that the family of the
ord Protector Oliver Cromwell was one of good
ccount, his uncle and godfather, Sir Oliver Crom
rell, possessing estates in Huntingdonshire alone
rhich were afterwards worth £30,000 a year. The
rotector's mother, by an odd chance, was namec
tewart; but it is altogether imaginary that she
ore any traceable relationship to the royal family
he race was originally Welsh, and bore the name
>f Williams ; but the great-grandfather of the Pro-
tector changed it to Cromwell, in compliance with
i wish of Henry VIII., taking that particular name
n honour of his relation, Thomas Cromwell, Earl
)f Essex."
FRED. L. TAVARE.
.22 Trentham Street, Pendleton, Manchester.
MBS. GKTJNDY. — Within the last few weeks
i Doctor of Divinity of some eminence
•eferred to this lady two or three times in a
sermon preached in a cathedral church.
She is as yet only about 120 years old, and
t is perhaps too soon to affirm her im-
nortality, but it strikes me that as a mere
lame, in an almost forgotten play — not one
>f its personages — her vitality is abnormal.
Vhen Thomas Morton wrote ' Speed the
5lough ' he could have had little idea how
he fame of Mrs. Grundy, whom he never
>rings upon the stage, would outlive that of
very other character in his play.
ST. SWITHIN.
ROGER DE GLOUCESTER IN ' DOMESDAY.'
—In 1102 Roger de Gloucester made an
xchange of lands with Serlo, Abbot of St.
Jeter's, Gloucester : —
" Anno Domini millesimo centesimo secundo,
erlo abbas fecit escambium cum Rogero de
Houcestria, scilicet quod abbas habuit in West-
ury habeat Bogerus in feodo absque decima
quae et silvae, et abbas praedictus habeat in
lemoeinam Sandhurst, et Erelyam, et terrain
Ilsthetel, cum omnibus quae prsedictae terrae
ertinent apud Hamme, et decimam suam "
Hist, et Cart. S. Petri de Gloucestria,' i. 112).
Erelyam" should rather be " Atteleyam"
s on p. 352.
Of the above lands given by Roger, Sand-
lurst and Hatherley were in the king's
ands in 1086 (Taylor, ' Analysis of the
)omesday Survey of Gloucestershire,'
p. 288-9). Hamme was already held by
t. Peter's of Gloucester at that date (ibid.,
p. 320-1). Its identity is not certain
Ibid., p. 205), but it was apparently close
D Lassington (ibid., pp. 320-1), and of
lassington we read in ' Domesday ': —
" Ulchetel tenuit Lessedune. . . .Modo ten'
tog' de Thoma Arch " (i. 1646.).
I suggest that it is at least highly probable
that the " terra Ulsthetel " of 1102 was part
of the estate held by Ulfketyl in 1066, and
had retained the name of Ulfketyl' s land
in spite of the change of ownership. If this
were the case, the Roger who held of the
Archbishop in 1086 would presumably be
Roger de Gloucester, who has not previously
been traced in ' Domesday ' so far as I know.
G. H. WHITE.
23 Weighton Eoad, Anerley.
" TOPPING " : " TOP-HOLE." — In modern
slang " topping " and " top-hole " have
quite displaced " ripping." I venture to
throw out the suggestion that " top-hole "
may be merely a light-hearted variant of
" topping " — invented by, or conceived by.
some horsey youth who had in mind the
buckling of a horse's girth or belly-band to
its top-hole.
But " topping " appears to have a
respectable ancestry. The dictionaries give
it as a synonym for " surpassing," " pre-
eminent," " fine," " noble," " gallant," &c.,
and I have just come across it in Mr. Hardy's
' Far from the Madding Crowd,1 chap, xxxviii.
Gabriel Oak says to Boldwood, " You look
strangely altered, Sir," and in reply to
Boldwood' s disclaimer, remarks, " I thought
you didn't look quite so topping as you u&ed
to, that was all." J. R. H.
SUNDIAL MOTTO IN SAVOY. — The follow-
ing appeared in a Lausanne newspaper in,
I think, 1913 :—
' Tu ne sais 1'heure. — On vient de restaurer a
Thones, ures Annecy (Savoie), un vieux cadran
solaire de 1690 qui se trouve en face de Peglise.
L'aricienne devise ressort tres lisible maintenant : —
Tu vois 1'heure
Tu ne scais 1'heure."
HERBERT SOUTHAM.
FRANCIS PLACE, POLITICAL ECONOMIST,
1771-1854.— Neither the 'D.N.B.' norBates's
Maclise Portrait Gallery ' in notices of the
above mentions that he was foreman of the
coroner's jury which in 1810 sat to inquire
nto the death of Sellis, who was found to
lave committed felo de se after having
attempted to murder his master, Ernest,
3uke of Cumberland. In a later con-
roversy, arising in 1832 on a prosecution
or libel upon the Duke in connexion with
he Sellis affair, Place, described as "of
Charing Cross, man's mercer," figured in
affidavits that were made and filed, and
ppears to have himself published " a letter
to the Public " under date of April 19, 1832.
W. B. H.
234
NOTES AND QUERIES. 112 s. v. SEPT, 1919.
OFFICIAL PEACE REJOICINGS. — Touching
the neglect of the Port of London in the
matter of official peace rejoicings, a corre-
spondent writes that he well remembers
being taken to Victoria Park on May 29.
1856, when there was a grand official
firework display to mark the termination oi
the Crimean campaign and its many blunders
and glories, and the end of the Franco -
British War with " the Autocrat of all the
Russias." Me.
WE must request correspondents desiring in-
formation on family matters of only private interest
to affix their names and addresses to their queries,
in order that answers may be sent to them direct.
EMERSON'S ' ENGLISH TRAITS.' — I should
be grateful for any suggestions, elucidations,
or reference to sources or authorities for any
of the following passages in the above work.
References to pages and lines follow the
World's Classics Edition. Phrases in
brackets are my own.
1. P. 11, 1. 33. [Wordsworth advised Americans!
never to call into action the physical strength
of the people, as had just now [1832] been done
in England in the Keform Bill, a thing prophesied
by Delolme. [What is the " thing prophesied
by D." — the Bill, or its effect in calling into
action, &c. And where does such a prophecy
occur in D.'s writings ?]
2. P. 13, 1. 22. KrrjfM es Aei. [From Thucy-
dides, I believe ; but I have no reference.]
3. P. 19, 1. 4. [Concerning the English claim
to the sovereignty of the seas against the Dutch.]
" As if," they said, " we contended for the drops
of the sea, and not for its situation, or the bed
of those waters. The sea is bounded by His
Majesty's empire." [Is this a literal quotation
from any source ? If a general abstract, to
what date may it be referred ?]
4. P. 19, 1. 20. Alfieri thought Italy and
England the only countries worth living in.
[Perhaps from Alfieri's autobiography.]
5. P. 22, 1. 16. Charles the Second said, " it
[the English climate] invited men abroad more
days in the year and more hours in the day than
any other country."
6. P. 23, 1. 2. The epigram on the climate by
an English wit, "In a fine day, looking up a
chimney ; in a foul day, looking down one."
7. P. 23, 1. 13. Sir John Herschel said, " London
was the centre of the terrene globe."
8. P. 23, 1. 28. Chestnut Street. [Apparently
a street in Philadelphia ; but is it the Park Lane
of Philadeplhia, or the Throgmorton Street, or
what ?]
9. P. 24, 1. 29. Fontenelle thought that nature
had sometimes a little affectation.
10. P. 25, 1. 32. Humboldt reckons three
races of men. [I cannot find any such reckoning.
In his ' Cosmos ' H. deprecates such divisional
classification.]
11. P. 28, 1. 5. Our Hoosiers, Suckers, ancl
Badgers of the American woods. [Where are-
these tribes located ?]
12. P. 30, 1. 8. Defoe said in his wrath, " the-i
Englishman was the mud of all races." [I cannot-
trace any such phrase literally. Is it merely
given as the gist of D.'s ' True-born Englishman' ?p
13. P. 32, 1. 8. The Celts or Sidonides are an
old family. [Liddell and Scott give " Phoeni-
cians " as a meaning for " Sidonides." Is it so
used in classical literature ? Has Emerson any
authority for identifying the Celts with the
Phoenicians, or is he following some theory now-
abandoned ?]
14. P. 35, 1. 25. The [Norman] conquest has-
obtained in the chronicles the name of the
"memory of sorrow." [I have not found any
such " name," though passages on the people'^
misery are common enough.]
15. P. 36, 1. 37. Alfieri said, " The crimes of
Italy were the proof of the superiority of the
stock." [Probably in A.'s autobiography.]
16. P. 37, 1. 23. The right of the husband to- .
sell the wife [in England] has been retained down
to our times. [Is this still true ? If not, when
was the right abolished ? ' English Traits *" ;
was published in 1856.]
17. P. 38, 1. 5. As early as the conquest it is-
remarked in explanation of the wealth of England
that its merchants trade to all countries.
18. P. 39, 1. 32. I apply to Britannia the
words in which her latest novelist portrays his-
heroine : " She is as mild as she is game, and as-
game as she is mild." [Who is thfe heroine ? I
I should guess the novelist to be Thackeray.]
19. P. 40, 1. 2. Admiral Rodney's figure ap-j
proached to delicacy and effeminacy, and he
declared himself very sensible to fear, which he- \
surmounted only by considerations of honour
and public duty.
20. P. 40, 1. 9. Sir Edward Parry said the-
other day of Sir John Franklin, that, " if he
found Wellington Sound open, he explored it ? ^
for he was a man who never turned his back on
a danger, yet of that tenderness, that he wouldJ
not brush away a, mosquito." [Who was Sir-
Edward Parry ? Can his observation on Franklin
be traced ?]
(Rev.) R. FLETCHER.
Buckland, Faringdon, Berks.
WORDSWORTH : * THE EXCURSION T : GRAS-
MERE CHURCH. — 1. In book vi. (Knight
vol. v. p. 261, 11. 515-26 ; Macmillarx, 1888
p. 489) the following inscription is given as
being " around the margin of the plate " o!
a dial in Grasmere churchyard : —
We gathered, as we read,
The appropriate sense, in Latin numbers couched r
' Time flies : it is his melancholy task
To bring and bear away delusive hopes
And reproduce the troubles he destroys.
But while his blindness thus is occupied,
Discerning mortal, do thou serve the will
3f Time's eternal Master, and that peace
Which the world wants, shall be by thee confirmed.""
followed immediately by the Solitary's-
comment : —
Smooth verse, inspired by no unletter'd Muse~
2 S. V. SEPT., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
235
There is no dial in Grasmere churchyard,
,d no tradition even of one " (Knight) ;
it it is suggested that Wordsworth has
"xed up with his Grasmere scenery some
miniscence of a dial once existing on a
lar in Bowness churchyard. Or it may be
mewhere else. Does any reader of
J. & Q.' know this inscription ? What I
ant to get at is the original Latin verse,
le passage with its context seems to me
roof that the inscription did exist and was
ot a flight of fancy, like the bells of ' Sir
Jfred Irthing ' in book vii. 1. 981.
2. In book v. 1. 172, Wordsworth records
mong the sepulchral stones in Grasmere
hurch : —
Some with small
.nd shining effigies of brass inlaid
A brazen plate,
'ot easily deciphered, told of one
7hose course of earthly honour was begun
i quality of page among the train
f the Eighth Henry, when he crossed the seas,
[is royal state to show and prove his strength
i tournament upon the fields of France.
hat is to say, at the " Field of the Cloth of
rold " in 1520. The text is that of the
oet's final decision. There are not now —
rere there ever ? — any monumental brasses
i Grasmere Church. But do these brasses
xist, or are they recorded as once existing,
nywhere in the Lake District ? At Cros-
tiwaite is the brass effigy of a Sir JohnRatclif ,
ated 1527 ; this is the only one in the
ounty whose date is suitable. Was this
ersonage attached to Henry VIII. 's court ?
H. K. ST. J. S.
RICHARD CHALLONER, FATHER OF BISHOP
/HALLONER (b. at Lewes, Sept. 29, 1691),
3 said to have been a wine-cooper by trade
nd " a rigid Dissenter " by religion, and
o have died when his son Richard, the
iture bishop, was still very young (Burton's
Bishop Challoner,' vol. i. p. 1).
Is it known whether the father of the
ishop was related in any way to Richard
/haloner, " of the Chapell, gentleman,"
fho " lived an orthodoxe Christian, feared
Jod, honoured the King, obeyed the Church
..." and "died of an apoplexie in the
6 year of his age," May 12, and was buried
t Westweston, May 14, 1664 [the last
.gure is uncertain] ? As to him see ' English
"opography, Surrey and Sussex,' " Gent,
lag. Library," London, 1900. at p. 338.
Hare in his 'Sussex' (1896) states at
>. 110 that the church of St. John, sub
J astro, at Lewes contains a tomb of " Mr.
Chaloner, 1705, father of Bishop
Chaloner." I have been unable to find
this tomb ; but, anyhow, John Chaloner was
not Bishop Challoner's father, though per-
haps he was a relative.
Richard Chaloner of Westmeston had a
son named William, who died in May, 1713,
aged 57, and was buried at Westmeston, :
probably John Chaloner of Lewes was
another son.
Where is there any pedigree of the Sussex
Chaloners ? JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.
DENNIS THE HANGMAN. — In recording the
trials at the Old Bailey of the Gordon
Rioters, The Gent. Mag. has this paragraph,
under date, Monday, July 3, 1780 : —
"Edw. Dennis, better known by the name of
Jack Ketch, was tried for assisting in pulling down
the house of Mr. Boggis in New Turnstyle. The
prisoner admitted the fact, but pleaded compul-
sion, the mob swearing they would burn him if he
did not assist them in burning the goods. He was
found guilty, hut recommended to mercy, and has
a bailable warrant, which will be sued out when
the executions are ended. The humanity of Mr.
Smith, the Keeper of Tothill-fields bridewell, to
whose custody he was committed, deserves due
praise. He declined confining him among the
other prisoners lest his obnoxious character should
expose him to their rage."
Now if old " Sylvanus Urban' s " state-
ment was correct it sharply controverts at
least two of the portions in ' Barnaby
Rudge ' dealing with this unhappy man, for
it implies (1) that Dennis would be reprieved,
and in that case was never hanged, so dis-
posing of the thrilling picture of the all-
night waiting of the crowd for his execution ;
and states (2) that he was allowed a cell by
himself in Tothill Fields Bridewell, whereas
in Dickens the turnkey thrust him into
Hugh's cell in Newgate, with the grim
remark that necessity, or the rioters, had
left no choice. Has any student of the
novelist noticed this before ?
W. R. WILLIAMS.
OLD FIELD. — Who was John Oldfield of
Oldfield, who died 1762, aged 74 ? Please
reply direct. (Mrs.) E. E. COPE.
Finchampstead, Berks.
" WHEN YOU DIE OF OLD AGE, I SHALL
QUAKE FOR FEAR." — This was a common
saying among peasants and workpeople,
when speaking to someone rather older than
themselves. Of course, other causes which
led to decease were excluded, it was death
caused by senile decay was the sole reason
alluded to. Was this a well-known saying;
or merely a stray cockney allusion ?
W. W. GLENNY.
Barking.
236
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. v. SEPT., 1919
DAVID M. MAIN AND THE ENGLISH
SONNET. — David M. Main in his preface to
the ' Treasury of English Sonnets ' (ed. 1880)
says that he determined " not to encumber
his volume with the analytical Essay on the
Sonnet out of which it originally grew."
Can any reader say if that essay was
ever printed, either separately or in any
periodical ? ROLAND AUSTIN.
Public Library, Gloucester.
LUCIEN BONAPARTE : PRISONER IN ENG
LAND. — Madame Jtmot, Duchesse d' Abrantes,
at p. 146, vol. iv., of her 'Memoirs (Bentley
& Sons, 1893), relates that Lucien Bona-
parte on being taken prisoner by the English
was conducted to Ludlow Castle and placec
under the charge of Lord Powis, Lore
Lieutenant of the county. Is this accurate,
and was any part of the Castle habitable so
recently as 1810 ? GRAHAM MILWARD.
77 Colmore Row, Birmingham.
FEAST or THE ASSUMPTION : SIGN OF THE
CROSS.- — Can any of your readers tell me oi
an instance in which they have heard
Aug. 15, the Feast of the Assumption,
spoken of as " Lady T)ay in harvest " ?
I believe that it was so called by the peasan-
try in past days and I am very anxious to
know if the usage, or any definite record of
it, still survives.
I should be grateful also for any informa-
tion as to old Catholic practices, such as the
use of the sign of the cross, which may still
exist, to your readers' knowledge. I am
trying to collect traces of such. I may add
that I do not want to trouble any one for
more than a postcard.
MARGARET A. MOULE.
Thistledown, Bearton Avenue, Hitchin, Herts.
MARY CLARKE or NEW YORK.— There is
a tablet to her memory in the chancel of
Millbrook Church, Bedfordshire, in, which
she is described as wife of Richard Vassall
of Jamaica who was born in 1730, died 1795.
Any particulars regarding Mary Clarke,
especially in regard to her connection with
Millbrook, will be welcome.
HARRY P. POLLARD.
MARYLEBONE BURIAL GROUNDS. — On the
south side of Paddington Street is the
largest ground, consecrated temp. George I.
The site having been converted into a public
garden the headstones have been mostly
set up against the boundary wall, others
having been laid flat to form a walk. Very
few of the inscriptions are now legible,
owing to incrustations of dirt and the effect
of the weather. Some stones have had
identification numbers painted on thei
Is any list in existence ? The majority ht
"Mr." but a few "Esq." Among tl
latter I noticed Robert Auchmuty, Judj
of the Admiralty in New England, who
death is not given in Sabine's ' America
Loyalists.' V. L. OLIVER, F.S.A.
Sunninghill.
WOODEN PEGS : SCREWS. — I should 1
glad to know when wooden pegs in furnitu
were displaced by pointless screws, and wh<
the latter gave way to pointed screws.
J. W. SWITHINBANK.
Sheffield.
RALPH GRIFFITH. — A few particulars ar
dates of birth and death of the founder <
conductor of Monthly Review, 1749-178
will be esteemed ANEURIN WILLIAMS.
Menai View, North Road, Carnarvon.
MAULE. — Information concerning the fc
lowing Maules who were educated at Wes
minster School is desired : —
(1) John Maule, admitted in 1787.
(2) Robert Maule, admitted in 174'
aged 10,
(3) Willaim Maule, admitted in 1786.
G. F. R. B.
MARTIN. — Information is much wante
about the following Martins, who wei
educated at Westminster School : —
(1) Charles Martin, admitted 1766.
(2) Charles Martin, son of Charles Marti
of Charleston, South Carolina, who wras ac
initted a King's Scholar 1772, aged 13. .
(3) Edward Martin, who graduated M.^
at Camb. Univ. from Trin. Coll. 1606.
(4) George Martin, admitted 1772.
(5) George Martin, admitted 1783.
(6) John Martin, who graduated M.A. a
Camb. Univ. from Trin. Coll. 1649.
(7) John Martin, admitted 1718, aged 15.
(8) Leonard 'Mar tin, admitted 1727, aged 1$
(9) Richard Martin, admitted!720, aged 1]
(10) Samuel Martin, admitted 1722, aged 7
(11) Thomas Martin, admitted 1720, aged 14
G. F. R, B.
NEWTON, R.A. : PORTRAITS WANTED. — '.
shall be glad of particulars of portrait
Dainted by Gilbert Stuart Newton, R.A.
E. ALFRED JONES.
6 Fig Tree Court, Temple, E.C.
CRUSADERS' NAMES. — A list of the recruit;
Burnished to the third Crusade exists in *
VIS. penes Dean and Chapter of Canterbury
Has this ever been printed, if so, where anc
vhen ? J. H. R
12 S. V. SEPT., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
257
GEORGE DYER : PORTRAIT AND AUTO-
BIOGRAPHY.— Do any of your readers know
anything of the present whereabouts of the
portrait of George Dyer (Lamb's friend,
1755-1841), once owned by Theodore Watts-
Dunton, or of the present or former where-
abouts of the manuscript autobiography of
Dyer quoted in the obituary notice in The
Gentleman's Magazine, and the materials
collected by Dyer for a bibliographical work
—all referred to in the ' D.N.B.' ? Has the
portrait ever been engraved ?
CHRISTOPHER MORLEY.
1722 Pine Street, Philadelphia, Pa.
" VALHALLA." — Can any one explain why
the German word " valhalla " should be
employed in English ? Our forefathers,
Anglo-Saxon and Norse, knew nothing oi
the a suffix tacked on by foreign Teutons.
N. POWLETT, Col.
" BUFFALOES." — About two thousand
Yorkshire members of the " Royal Ante-
diluvian Order of Buffaloes " lately assem-
bled at a memorial service, held in church,
with reference to the hecatomb which their
society had contributed to war- victims.
Will some one tell me why the members are
" Buffaloes," and how they are " ante-
diluvian " ? ST. SWITHIN.
JOHN WILSON, BOOKSELLER : HIS CATA-
LOGUE.— Do any of your readers know
whether or not there is still in existence, and
where, a copy of the book catalogue of John
Wilson, London bookseller, who died in 1889,
in which (possibly on the front cover) first
appeared the well known " O ! for a booke
and a shadie nooke " lines ? (See 10 S.
ix. 192, Mar. 7, 1908, communication of MR.
AUSTIN DOBSON.)
CHRISTOPHER MORLEY.
1722 Pine Street, Philadelphia, Pa.
DR. STOCKS. — Information wanted of a
Dr. Stocks. He was a traveller, and I
understand he presented many years ago
some of his collection (woods, &c.) to a
museum in Kew Gardens.
MONTAGUE PAWSON.
58 Coleman Street, E.C.
CORNWALL: UNWRITTEN BOOK. — Borrow
is said to have made a lot of memoranda for
his proposed book on Cornwall, which was
advertised at the end of ' The Romany Rye,'
but was never written. Can any one tell me
wh re these memoranda are ? They would
be worth printing just as they stand.
J. H. ROWE.
CARACTACUS : DRUIDS. — Can any reader
tell me where to find particulars of the life
of Caractacus ? I wish to know the names
of his wife, daughter, son-in-law (was this
Caius ?), of the Arch-Druid, and of the
Roman tribune with whom he had dealings.
I want any information outside of Tacitus.
Where did Hume get his information from
on the subject ? I do not mind if the
references are to Spanish, French, or German
works.
At the same time can a reader give me the
name of a very good German work on the
Druids ?
I am anxious to get all this information as
early as I can. M. LUCK.
THE SIMPLON TUNNEL : MAN AND THE
SIMPLON. — Does anyone know of a transla-
tion from (I fancy) Italian of a description
of the construction of the tunnel given to a
passer-by by a workman who, with his
father, had both worked therein ? The
father died before the feat was accomplished,
and the son promises to visit his tomb and
tell him if man has been able to triumph
over nature. The English translation begirs
with : " A blue lake is deeply set in moun-
tains capped with eternal snow."
A. D. B.
RICHENDA : ORIGIN OF NAME. — What is
the origin of the woman's name Richenda,
and how does it obtain among gipsies as well
as in such a family as the Gurneys of
Norfolk ? F. M. BLAND.
Inglethorpe Manor, Wisbech.
LOUISA SPELT LEWEEZER. — In the church-
yard of the old church on the hill at Llan-
drindod Wells, I came across a tombstone oil
which the Christian name Louisa was spelt
Leweezer. Is this unique ?
INQUIRER (3).
OLD WATCH- AND CLOCK-MAKERS. — Was
John Price of Deptford (a maker of watches)
the man of this name apprenticed to R.
Nemes in C.C. in 1678 ? (See Britten,
2nd edn., p. 678.)
Is anything known of Michael Knight of
Brighthelmstone, clock-maker ?
JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.
WELSH PUPILS OF RICHARD WILSON, R.A.
— Can a list be given of whom they were and
where they were wont to foregather ? Did
any of his pupils attain any distinction as
landscape painters ?
ANEURIN WILLIAMS.
Menai View, North Road, Carnarvon.
238
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. v. SEPT., 1919.
STAND ABD: REFERENCE WANTED. — In, a
poem written a number of years ago relating
to a picture shown in some British exhibi-
tion, and representing a grandmother,
daughter, and granddaughter, it is said of
the last that she was in the Court that
Greeted, when the "standard" fell,
A Hanoverian king.
I am not sure that I have the lines exactly
right, but there was a reference to the
" standard." What is the meaning of this
reference? HENRY LEFFMAUN.
Philadelphia.
" OLD LADY OF THREAD NEEDLE STREET."
. — Can any reader kindly inform me when
and by whom the Bank of England first got
the name of " The Old Lady of Threadneedle
Street " ? MABERLY PHILLIPS, F.S.A.
Steyning, Enfield.
[See 11 S. i. 89, 177.]
CAPT. B. GRANT. — Can any of your cor-
respondents give me any information regard-
ing Capt. B. Grant, wounded at Waterloo
while serving in an infantry regiment ?
A. T. CROSSE.
13, Drayton Gardens, S.W.10.
TWINING -H A YNES MARRIAGE . — Want ed ,
evidence of the marriage of John Aldred
Twining of Twickenham and Emma Haynes,
probably about 1808. Please reply direct to
(Sir) ALFRED IRWIN.
49 Ailesbury Road, Dublin.
SHIELD OF FLANDERS. — The ancient shield
of Flanders was : — Gyronny or and azure,
an inescutcheon gules. The modern shield
is : Or, a lion rampant sable. When and by
whom was the change made ?
H. I. HALL.
9 Neeld Parade, Wembley Hill.
* THE MOAT ISLAND.' — I came into posses-
sion recently of an engraving entitled ' The
Moat Island,' T. Sandby del., F. Nivarez,
sculp. The number " 3 " in the corner seems
to indicate that this picture is one of a series.
It was published March 2, 1772, by John
Boydell, engraver, in Cheapside, London.
I would like to find out whether the picture
refers to some existing locality, and if so,
where this moat island is to be found.
R. P. HOMMELL.
Lehigh University, U.S.A.
EDWARD THE CONFESSOR'S CROWN. — The
English " regalia," including the famous
crown of Edward the Confessor, were
destroyed about the time of the Common-
wealth. I am interested in a representation,
I believe, of this crown in a tapestry I suppose
to be of James I.'s time. The shape is of a
sort of circle surmounted by two half-circles,
enriched with pearls, and at the top by a
small orb with lion. Are any other repre-
sentations of the same known in England or
does any reliable description exist ?
P. TURPIN.
44 Heath Terrace, Leamington.
DAVID, " EPISCOPUS RECREENSIS." — In
1315, after the death of Archbishop William
Greenfield, David, " Episcopus Recreensis,"
was commissioned by the Dean and Chapter
of York to reconcile the churchyard of
St. Mary, Bishophill, senior, Yorks, polluted
by blood-shedding. Is it known from what
see this bishop derived his title ? An Irish
origin has been suggested.
WILLIAM BROWN.
The Old House, Sowerby, Thirsk.
ELEPHANT : OLIPHANT. — In The Times
Literary Supplement for August some corre-
spondence has been published concerning
the site of the Elephant tavern in South-
wark, and old documents are quoted where
the words " elephant " and " oliphant " are
both used to indicate the place. Did this
well-known Scottish surname originate in the
name of the quadruped ?
J. LAND FEAR LUCAS.
Glendora, Hindhead, Surrey.
COL. BARNARD, 1778. — Who was the Col.
Barnard who is represented in the portrait
group by Romney recently purchased for the
National Gallery. A description of the
picture appeared in The Times of June 9
last. H. C. B.
BIRTH AND BARTH PLACE-NAMES. — In
the Registers of the Society of Friends at
Somerset House, I find two persons de-
scribed as "of Birth" and "of Barth "
respectively. As they both appear in-
digenous to Suffolk, I suppose these place?,
or this place, to be in Suffolk, but can find
no trace of such a place in that county.
Have your readers any suggestion ?
RICHARD FREE.
St. Clement's Vicarage, Fulham, S.W.
ST. JOHN BAPTIST HEADS. (See ante,
p. 209.)- — In what building in Nottingham
are these and the other figures mentioned
by Dr. Philip Nelson to be found ?
ST. SWITHIN.
POEMS WANTED. — Wanted the title of a
book of poems written in India in 1867-8 by
the late Sir Gilbert Campbell.
F. M. BLAND.
42 S. V. SEPT., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
239
AUTHOR OF QUOTATION WANTED. —
1. They shall not pass.
CJan any reader supply the words and author of
this poem which appeared in the film of the life
of Lord Kitchener ? Please reply direct.
(Miss) GWEX GALBRAITH.
10 Binswood Avenue, Leamington Spa.
2. Can any of your correspondents kindly give
me any clue to words and music of some lines
which my mother taught me fifty years ago ? 1
give a stanza from memory : —
Yes ! I will leave the battle field.
And seek again my native land.
I cast aside my spear and shield
And join the merry mountain band.
To roam o'er hills and valleys green,
I'd gaily rise at early dawn,
And listen to the echo wild
Of the merry mountain horn.
H. HARGRAVE.
Glen Hill, Oadby, Leicester.
3. Can any reader kindly tell me the author of
these clever lines on 'The Road '? —
I am the way the Past has trod,
I wear the dust of ages ;
On me the Future, yet unshod,
Must travel through its stages.
I am the means whereby men meet
The parting place of others ;
For I, like Death, divide the past
Of comrades, sweethearts, brothers.
J. HARRIS STONE.
•Oxford and Cambridge Club.
YEOMAN OF THE MOUTH.
{12 S. iii. 508; iv. 89)
IT is impossible after this lapse of time
to define the duties of this post, and they
can only be guessed at from the title. In
Chamberlayne's ' Present State of Eng-
land,' 1700, among the thirty -four different
departments of the " Queen's Household
Officers and Servants, attending in the
several Offices below Stairs, under the Com-
mand of William, Duke of Devonshire, Lord
Steward,' such as the Buttery, Ewry,
Acatery, Poultery, Almondry, &c., appears
the name of " Jo. Centlivre, Yeoman,
Mouth, wages 51., and Board Wages 45Z.
per Annum," under the heading of " Privy
Kitchen," following the first, second, and
third clerks, the master cook, second and
third ditto, and preceding four yeomen, four
grooms, and four children. " In each Office
there is a Succession from one to another ;
thus one of the Children may come to be a
Groom, then Yeoman, then Gentleman, then
Serjeant, as he happens to out-live them
above him" (ibid., 716). "The Yeomen
are chiefly employ 'd in Soups, Ragousts, &c.
The Grooms for boil'd Meats ; and the Chil-
dren for all Meats roasted." ('The True
State of England, 1734.')
The Historical Register for Jan. 20, 1725,
says : " Dy'd Mr. Joseph Centlivre, Master-
Cook to his Majesty " ; and, earlier, on
Dec. 1, 1723, said of his wife, the poetess :
" Dy'd Mrs. Centlivre, Author of The Busy
Body, and several other Plays. She was
wife of Mr. Joseph Centlivre, one of the
Yeomen of the Kitchen to his Majesty."
He was succeeded as Yeoman of the
Mouth by Claude Arnold in March, 1724,
and he again in Jan., 1725, by Henry
Daniel, whose board wages were 551. in
1727, but who in 1734 was Master Cook
of the Queen's Privy Kitchen at III. Ss. l$d.
and 108Z. 11s. 10M.
In 1734 Henry Lyon was Yeoman of the
Mouth of the King's Privy Kitchen, while
John Humston held the same post in the
Queen Consort's Privy Kitchen, both^ at 6CZ.
In 1737 Joseph Lemarey held the office to
the King, and William Calboun, sen., to the
Queen Consort. " Henry Lyon of the
King's Kitchen," died Jan. 18, 1754 (London
Magazine), having been made second Master
Cook at III. Ss. Hd. wages and 100Z. 11*. W$d
board wages, before 1741. In 1748 Joseph
Lemarey was still Yeoman of the Mouth,
Daniel Durant and Anthony Trolling were
two of the four Yeomen at 60Z. each, and
Thomas Griffith was a groom at 501., and
from other similar lists it appears that one
of the children at 40Z. would in years later be
found to have been promoted to groom,
yeoman, Yeoman of the Mouth, and master-
cook successively. Michael Heathcote was
one of the two Grooms of the Pantry at
21. 13s. 4d. and 37Z. 6s. 8d. in 1741 and 1748
but by 1755 had been promoted to Gentleman
and Yeoman of the Pantry at 60Z., but this
was another branch of the Lord Steward's
department.
In 1750 the style was altered to the King's
Private Kitchen, when Daniel Durant was
Yeoman of the Mouth at 60Z. ; Anthony
Froling held it in 1755, being succeeded by
Thomas Griffith two years later, who held
it till 1761, when the style was again altered
to the King's Kitchen, and Henry Teget-
meyer was appointed at 140/. a year, and
held it in 1769. The London Magazine gives
his death on Mar. 8, 1779, as : " — Teget-
meyer, cook to the King " (being then first
master-cook at 237Z. 10s.).
Other holders of the post were John Dixon
in 1773, W. Weybrow, who succeeded him
240
NOTES AND QUERIES.
in. 1778, who was succeeded by G. Harris
before 1781 ; Nathaniel Gardiner at 138Z. in
1783 and 1797 ; Peter Donaldson in 1800,
who was succeeded by George Rawlinson in
1808, who was succeeded by J. Teed in 1811,
but the post was vacant during the King's
illness, 1812 to 1820. Henry Beard held it
1820 to 1823, when two Yeomen of the
Mouth, Thomas Huggins and Fr. Chevasset
were appointed, who were succeeded by
F. Chevasset and John Miller in 1827 or
1828. In 1830 Alex. Jaquiery and George
Sheppard were appointed to the position,
and the latter held it alone 1833 to 1837,
being the last Yeoman of the Mouth
(of. Royal Kalenclars).
W. R. WILLIAMS.
BYRON'S ' DON JUAN,' CANTOS 17 AND 18.
(12 S. v. 170).— The cantos 17 and 18 men-
tioned by your correspondent is undoubtedly
one of the ' Sequels ' mentioned by Mr.
E. H. Coleridge in the ' Works of Lord
Byron,' vol. vi. p. 608 (Murray, 1903).
Mr. Coleridge gives a foot-note on this
matter on p. 608, which is as follows : —
" May 8, 1823, MS.— More than one seventeenth
canto or so-called continuation of ' Don Juan ' has
been published. Some of these ' Sequels ' pretend
to be genuine, while others are undisguisedly
imitations or parodies. There was, however, a
foundation for the myth. Before Byron left Italy
he had begun (May 8, 1823) a seventeenth canto,
and when he sailed for Greece he took the new
stanzas with him. Trelawnay found fifteen stanzas
of the seventeenth canto of ' Don Juan ' in Byron's
room at Missolonghi (' Recollections,' &c., 1858,
p. 237). The MS., together with other papers, was
handed over to J. C. Hobhouse, and is now in the
posession of his daughter Lady Dorchester. The
copyright was purchased by the late John Murray.
The fourteen (nob fifteen) stanzas are now printed
and published for the first time."
The other four parts which are mentioned
in the paper bindings, and published at
Is. each, by J. Hunt of Old Bond Street,
are not original first editions of the various
cantos of ' Don Juan.' These were pub-
lished as follows : —
Cantos 1 2. T. Davidson, Whitefriars,
1819. 4to ... ... price £1 11 6
Cantos 1,2. T.Davidson (new edition), 1819,
8vo ... ... ... 9 6
Cantos 3, 4, 5. T. Davidson, 1821, 8vo ..96
Cantos 6, 7, 8. John Hunt, 1823 ... ..96
Cantos 9, 10, 11. John Hunt, 1823 ... ..96
Cantos 12, 13, 14. John Hunt, 1823 96
Cantos 15, 16. John & H. L. Hunt, 1824 ..96
None of these editions were published with
Byron's name.
I have in my collection a similar set of
Poems in six volumes to those your corre-
spondent mentions, but mine differ some-
what in dates to those given. The par-
ticulars of my set are as follows : —
Vol.1 fin 2 vols) J. F. Dove 1828.*-
Vol.2 (in 2 vols) ... J. F. Dove 1828.*
Vol. 3 (in 4 vols) ... J. Murray 1830.
Vol. 4 (in 4 vols) ... J. Murray 1830.
Vol. 5 (no mention of 4 vols) J. Murray 1831,
Vol. 6 „ „ J. Murray 1831.
I have also another edition of Lord
Byron's works in my collection which has
the same variation, viz., six volumes pub-
lished by Murray, 1827. The last two
volumes are uniform with the above,,
containing ' Don Juan,' published by
Davidson, 1828.
It is difficult to say how these variations
occur, except that at that time there were
a great number of collected works of Lord
Byron published within a few years, and it
looks as though several of these editions
have got mixed up in the collections, and
hence have come through in this manner.
HERBERT C. ROE.
Sunnyholme, Alexandra Park, Nottingham.
In 1903 was published by a London firm.
" Don Juan, XVIIth and XVIIIth Cantos,"
74 pp., containing 80 and 79 stanzas respec-
tively. The lines quoted at reference do
not appear, and the work (for what it was-
worth) seemed to be original.
'A Sequel to "Don Juan" (10 !
ii. ,55), had this advertisement prefixed : —
"Five cantos of the 'Sequel to Don Juan ' are-
now issued to the public : should they be received
with favour, eleven more will shortly follow, i\
being the original intention of the writer to extend
the work to the same length as the ' Don Juan ' of
Lord Byron. In the meantime the author deems-
it prudent to withold (sic) his name from the title-
page— with the promise, however, that he shall'
feel bound to reveal himself should the remaining-,
eleven cantos of his poem be called for."
Anonymous both as to author and date-
(the latter appearing, from internal evi-
dence, to be 1840 or a few years later),,
the ' Sequel ' has been attributed to G. W. M-
Reynolds ; but the above advertisement is
quite unlike his style ; and though there-
may be points of resemblance between the*
' Sequel ' and passages in Reynolds' s works,
assertions in the former's text as to trie-
family and seemingly far from flourishing
circumstances of the author, and ill-treat-
ment of him by a relative, leave me with a
* It is strange these volumes published by Dove
also contain ' Don Juan ' similar to the other
edition mentioned below by Davidson. It is most
probable Murray still adhered to his refusal to
publish l Don Juan.'
12 S. V. SEPT., 1919.1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
241
trong impression that G. W. M. Reynolds
^as not the writer.
Can it be stated whether the contemplated
leven cantos were claimed by and given to
he public ; and if such were the case, if the
uthor " revealed himself " as promised ?
W. B. H.
[DR. LEFFMANN also thanked for reply.]
WILLIAM HOORDE (12 S. v. 179), the
Winchester Scholar of 1555, was the son of
loger Hoorde (Horde or Hurde), the
cholar of 1527. The marginal note to
loger's name in the College Register is
Vergifer ecclesie cathedralis Winton.," and
is career explains why, though he himself
ras a native of Shrewsbury, his son William
^as born in the soke of Winchester. In
541 Roger Hurde was " chyef sexten "
t the Cathedral ('Winchester Cathedral
)ocuments,' i. 55, Hampshire Record Soc.).
n May, 1559, when Dr. White, the Bishop of
Winchester, was a prisoner in the Tower of
.ondon, Roger Horde was one of the
•ishop's officers who were permitted to see
im there about his accounts ( ' Acts of
'rivy Council,' N.S. vii. 103). Thomas
ryrdeler, another of these officers, had also
een a Winchester Scholar. The will, dated
[ay 6, 1580, of Roger Hoorde, of Wolvesaye,
-as proved on Oct. 23, 1581, by Peter
ohnson, notary public, proctor for the
jstator's son William, the executor (P.C.C.,
6 Darcy). According to some notes that
have of the will, the testator desired to be
uried at the College, where his wife had
[ready been buried, and therefore be-
ueathed to the College the works of Origen,
asil, TertulHan, and Gregory of Nazianzus
iloorde's copies of these books do not seem
) be now in our Fellows' Library). He
tentioned his daughters: (1) Iline Ilman
vhose children, Richard, Thomas, William
id Alice were surnamed Symonds) ; (2) Alice
oodlake (who had three sons), and
i) Thomazine (mother to Thomas and
nne Chidley). His son William Hoorde
he residuary legatee) had four children,
oger, John, Clare and Ellen. Mr. Thomas
enslowe and his brother Mr. Harrie
enslowe were appointed overseers of the
ill. H. C.
Winchester College.
ETCHINGS BY T. PARKER, 1838 (12 S.
183).— T. Parker, or rather T. H. Parker,
as my grandfather. The original copper -
ate of the etching MR. ABRAHAMS refers
is still in my possession. I have never
sard of any other views round London
etched by him, and I think that the late Mr.
Fawcett was wrong in his surmise.
The old firm of T. H. Parker is still in
existence at 12a Berkeley Street, Piccadilly,
and I represent the fourth generation carry-
ing on the business, established in 1790.
Early in 1917 my brother suddenly dying,
and I and most of the staff serving in the
army, I had no other option but to close
down the business temporarily until Christ-
mas, 1918, when I was invalided out, and
able to re-establish the business at its
present address. HARRY PARKER.
EXETER CATHEDRAL EPITAPH (12 S.
v. 152). — In Fuller's ' Worthies ' is the
epitaph of William Scot, buried in Braborne
Church, Kent, " qui obiit 5 Febr. 1433."
There are four hexameters, the last two
being : —
Quisquis eris qui transieris, sic perlege, plora.
Sum quod eris, fueramque quod es, pro me, precor,
ora.
This is over fifty years earlier than the date
given for Sy Ike's death.
Weever, ' Ancient Funerall Monuments,'
p. 609, has an inscription over a member of
the Coggeshall family from Maldon, Essex,
the year of death being given as 1427 (Jan. 9).
It contains the two lines quoted above, with
the difference of sta for sic in the first.
Nathan Chytraeus, ' Delicise,' 1606, p. 298,
gives two undated lines at Augsburg : —
Quisquis ades, qui morte cades, sta, respice, plora.
Sum quod eris, modicum cineris, pro me, precor,
ora.
An inscription closely resembling the above,
if not identical with it, in the church at
Santeuil (Seine-et-Oise), was the subject of
correspondence in vols. Ixxi. and Ixxii. of
L' Intermediaire, but the writer who intro-
duced it did not recognise the metre.
In one form or another the lines are widely
spread. It will be interesting to see if MR.
WAINE WRIGHT'S query draws an example
of still earlier date than those given here.
EDWARD BENSLY.
Oudle Cottage, Much Hadham, Herts.
JOSEPH KNIBB, CLOCKMAKER (12 S.
v. 123). — Three or four members of the
Knibb family are known among the seven-
teenth century clockmakers, but the most
eminent was Joseph, of whom MR. WAIN-
WRIGHT will find a very long notice in
Britten's ' Old Clocks and Watches and
their Makers,' together with several illus-
trations of miniature, bracket, and long-
case clocks. Particular note is also made
of the peculiar striking features of many of
them. A perusal of the new edition of
242
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. v. SEPT., 1919.
Britten, published by Batsford in 1911
will reveal much interesting information
about Dial numbering and striking arrange-
ments. Cescinsky and Webster's book
* English Domestic Clocks ' (Routledge, 1913)
and also Moore's * Old Clock Book,' pub-
lished by HeinemanR in 1912, may be read
with advantage. ARCHIBALD SPARKB.
CHURCH OF ENGLAND MARRIAGE SERVICE
(12 S. v. 208), — With reference to the
inquiry by DR. WILLCOCK, Scott was quite
accurate in ' The Fortunes of Nigel ' in
making Lord Dalgarno speak of " that
happy portion of the Prayer Book which
begins with ' dearly beloved ' and ends with
* amazement.' ' The Anglican marriage
service opens by the clergyman addressing
the congregation as " dearly beloved," and
it ends with an exhortation to the newly-
married couple as to their respective duties,
women being in subjection unto their
husbands, " even as Sarah obeyed Abraham
calling him lord, whose daughters ye are as
long as ye do well, and are not afraid with
any amazement." W. S. YATES.
Birmingham.
I MR. F. A. RUSSELL also thanked for reply.]
SIR PETER DENIS (12 S. v. 206).— Sir
Peter Denis was a son of the Rev. Jacob
Denis, a Huguenot, born at Rochefoucauld
in Aiigoumois (now Department de la
Charente), who fled from France at the
revocation of the Edict of Nantes and
settled at Chester, where he was ordained,
and married " Mrs. Martha Leech, who was
born in Manchester of a very antient family
in Lancashire " (Kimber), by whom he had
twelve children born in Chester. Peter, the
youngest but one, adopted the naval
profession, and sailed round the world with
Lord Anson. He commanded the Centurion
in 1747 and the Dorsetshire in 1758, and was
afterwards " one of the most foremost ships
of Sir Edward Hawke's fleet," and took part
in many hard-fought actions. After the
peace he was made captain of the Royal
Charlotte yacht, and it was in this vessel,
with Lord Anson on board, that he was sent
to meet Princess Charlotte of Mecklenburg -
Strelitz at Stade. There are two engravings,
by Pierre Canot, representing the yachts
going out on this occasion. My great -
grandmother Elizabeth, Duchess of Hamil-
ton, was one of the two Ladies of the Bed-
chamber sent to meet the Princess at Stade.
The voyage back was performed under the
charge of Admiral Kingsmill. It lasted ten
days, and the ladies were extremely ill.
When the Princess first saw the tv,
Duchesses, it is said that she burst iui
tears and exclaimed : " Are all the women •
England as beautiful as you ? "
Admiral Peter Denis " of St. Mary's, an
Blackmonstone in Romney-Marsh, Kent
was created a baronet Oct. 28, 1767. H
wife Elizabeth died two years previous!;
aged 44, and was buried in the burial-grour
behind the Foundling Hospital belongir
to the parish of St. George, Bloomsbur;
where there is also a monument to tl
memory of her mother-in-law, " Mrs. Marti
Denis, relict of the rev. Mr. Jacob Denis, wl
departed this life July 11, 1746, age
77 years." The arms of Sir Peter are giv<
as : Arg., a chevron, engrailed between thr<
fleur-de-lis, gu. At some time of his life 1
must have been living in Dublin, as we fir
there amongst the Huguenot notices mentic
of his standing godfather and also being
witness to marriages.
CONSTANCE RUSSELL.
Swallowfield Park, Beading.
Sir Peter Denis was born at Chester
1713, and m. Sept, 2, 1750, Elizabe
(known as "Miss Poppet"), dan. of Jol
James Heidegger of St. James's (a Swi
Count), manager of the Opera in Londo
who died Deo. 30, 1765. Sir Peter di<
s.p. June 12, 1778, aged 65, title extinc
will proved 1778. He was seated
Valence (which he bought in 1753, and sc
about 1766) in Westrane, Kent, and
St. Mary's, Blackmonstone, in Romni
Marsh, Kent (G. E. C.'s ' Complete Barom
age ' ).
From The Gentleman's Magazine and oth
sources it appears that he became a lie
tenant in the Royal Navy, 1739, and we
as third lieutenant of the Centurion wi
Anson round the world, 1740 to 174
returning as his first lieutenant ; beeai
( master and commander, June 25, 1744 ; pc
captain, Feb. 9, 1745 ; captain of the Ce
turion (a fourth rate ship, 400 men, 60gui
February, 1747, in which he greatly d
tinguished himself in the battle of May
following off Cape Finisterre, where
began the attack, and was sent home wi
Anson' s despatch of the victory. He \\
appointed to command the Medway ((
in March, 1755, sat on the court-martial
the unfortunate Admiral Byng at Por
mouth in December, 1756 and January, 17^
commanded the Namur (second rate, 7
men, 92 guns), in 1759, and was ma
captain of the Dorsetshire (a new 70 g
ship), Feb., 1758, in which he took t
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
243
Raisonable (64) in that year, and began the
battle off Belleisle, Nov. 20, 1759, where he
gained great honour. He commanded
the Bellona (74, a new ship just off the
stocks at Chatham) ; the Royal Charlotte
yacht (of 15,5 tons, 40 men, 8 cannonade
and 10 swivel guns, stationed at Deptford),
from Aguust, 1761, till he was made rear-
admiral of the Blue, Oct. 28, 1770, and of the
White four days later ; became vice-admiral
of the Blue, "March 31, 1775, then vice-
admiral of the Red Squadron of H.M.'s
Fleet, was M.P. for Hedon in two Parlia-
ments, 1754 to 1768, and a director of
Greenwich Hospital, January, 1769, till his
death. W. R. WILLIAMS.
[CoL. FYNMORE and MR. ARCHIBALD SPARKE
also thanked for replies.]
DEVONIAN PRIESTS EXECUTED IN 1548-9
(12 S. v. 131, 183).— Anthony Babington
mentioned by your correspondent was not
a priest, but a page to Mary Queen of Scots,
and there is no evidence to show that he
came from Devonshire. Some information
concerning him is given in Gillow's ' Biog.
Diet. English Catholics ' (vol. i. p. 93),
where it is stated that he was " concerned
irx a plot to procure the liberation of Mary
Queen of Scots and to assassinate Queen
Elizabeth." For a long time he lay con-
cealed in a house in St. John's Wood until
compelled by hunger he fled to Harrow-
on-the-Hill, where he was taken. He was
executed on Sept, 20, 1586, together with
thirteen others (including John Ballard)
implicated in the same conspiracy. This, it
will be observed, is nearly forty years after
the date mentioned by your correspondent
(ante, p. 183). As to George Stocker to
whom he refers, no mention of him is made
in the ' Diet. Nat. Biog.,' but some informa-
tion concerning him is given in * Notes of
Priests at Wisbech, prisoners in the Tower,'
printed in Catholic Records, vol. ii. pp. 280,
282. Thus " George Stocker, the old Earl
of Northumberland's man, who would have
conveyed his daughter awaye [to save her
from arrest ?]. He came lately from
Rome " (p. 280). Again, " Feb. 7, 1587.
George Stocker prisoner [in the Tower]
vj. monthes who hath been in ffrance these
xxtie yeares, and came over to fetch the
Earle of Westmorland's [sic] daughter "
(p. 282). The date of his execution is not
given, but evidently from this entry it
could not have been so early as 1548-9 as
suggested in the headline, and was most
probably some time in 1587.
J. E. HARTING.
Portmore Lodge, Weybridge.
" ABDOLLA" (12 S. v. 182).— Can this be-
an error for the Latin word abolla, meaning a
cloak, which occurs in the following places
at least : —
Juv., iii. 115. — Facinus majoris abollae, a crime •
committed by one who wore an ampler cloak, i.e.r
a professed (Stoic or Cynic) philosopher.
Juv., iv. 76.— Kapta properabat abolla Pegasus
(a courtier).
Suet. Vit. Calig., 3o. — Ptolemaeus ... convertit
hominum oculos fulgore purpurese abollse.
Mart., viii. 48.— Nescit cui dederit Tyriam Cris-
pinus abollam.
Prudent, adv. Symmachum 1, 557 [Romanorum <
senatum conversum ad Christum 12].
[Anicius Olybrius] palmata insignis abolla.
The first reference suggests that the garment
had some speciality of significance ; the ~
abolla was a large, voluminous, compre-
hensive cloak, serving as an all -enveloping
garment by day and a blanket by night
(Mart., iv. 53). H. K. ST. J. S.
[G. G. L. also thanked for reply.]
AMBASSADOR (12 S. v. 210). —This defini-
tion is not due to Samuel Johnson, nor may
it go to the credit of Izaak Walton. It is a
witty translation of a mot of Sir Henry
Wotton's, recorded by his biographer, but
to which " the judicious hooker" nmkes no-
claim. Here is part of a passage relating to-
the authorship. When Sir Henry was going
as ambassador into Italy,
"as he passed through Germany he stayed some
days at Augusta, where, having been in his former
travels well known by many of the best note for
learning and ingeniousness (those that are esteemed
the virtuosi of that nation), with whom he, pass-
ing an evening in merriment, was requested by
Christopher Flecamore to write some sentence m •
his Albo (a book of white paper which the German
gentry carry about with them for that purpose),
and Sir Henry Wotton, consenting to that motion, -
took occasion, from some accidental discourse of
the present company, to give a pleasant definition
of an ambassador in these very words : —
' Legatus est vir bonus peregr^ missus ad menti-
endum reipublicse causa,'
Which Sir Henry Wotton could have been content
should have been thus Englished : —
* An ambassador is an honest man sent to lie
abroad for the good of his country.'
But the word for lie, being the hinge upon which
the conceit was to turn, was not to be expressed
in Latin, as would admit (in the hands of an enemy
especially) so fair a construction as Sir Henry's •
thought in English."— ' Lives,' Zouch's- edition,
pp. 128-9.
With us "to lie" formerly signified " to •
lodge " or " to stay." ST. SWITH!N.
Izaak Walton in his ' Life of Sir Henry
Wotton ' says : —
" Sir Henry Wotton. . . .took an occasion, from
some accidental discourse of the present companyv -
to write a pleasant definition of an Ambassador
244
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in these very words : Legatus est yir bonus,
peregre missus ad mentiendum Beipublicse causa ;
which Sir Henry Wotton could have been content
should have been thus Englished : An Ambassador
is an honest man, sent to lie abroad for the good
of his country."
The witty conceit is Walton's. It appears
that Wotton' s blunt definition eventually
• got him into trouble. C. A. COOK.
It was Sir Henry Wotton (1568-1639)
who first said that an ambassador was
" a good man sent to lie abroad for the
-good of his country." According to the
' D.N.B.' he first phrased it in Latin ("ad
mentiendum "), which obviously annihilates
the double entente. The tempering of the
cynicism with the jest appears to have been
an afterthought. See the ' D.N.B.,' vol. Ixiii,
p. 53, and Izaak Walton's * Life of Sir Henry
Wotton,' a little beyond half way through.
S.
[Several other correspondents also thanked for
replies. ]
Miss HELEN MARIA WILLIAMS (12 S.
v. 180).— Of this lady, then living, I find
a somewhat lurid account in 1816, appar-
ently written by one possessing personal
knowledge from about 1780. Coming from
Berwick to London, the proceeds of her
poems and novels enabled her about 1788
to visit Paris, where she became resident in
1791. During the reign of Robespierre
she was arrested and imprisoned, but on his
fall was released.
" Though a violent republican, this woman could
stoop to eulogise the late usurper of France ; and,
to her eternal disgrace, she undertook the employ-
ment of editing the Correspondence of Louis XVI.,
= accompanying all the letters with the basest
calumnies, arid the most brutal observations."
A later publication, however, '' A Narra-
tive of the Events which have taken place
in France from the landing of Napoleon
Buonaparte on the 1st of March, 1815, till
the Restoration of Louis XVIIIth, 1815,"
is credited as being "a volume which, if it
does not completely atone for the bad
qualities of her former works, will at least
•entitle her to respect." She appears to
have written some fifteen or sixteen different
works, and to have died in 1827.
W. B. H.
Helen Maria Williams wa^ the daughter of
-Charles Williams, an officer in the army, and
was born in London in 1762. In 1782 she
published ' Edwin and Eltruda,' a legendary
tale in verse, and later wrote many other
poems. She went to France in 1788 on a
visit to her sister, and from that time she
for the most part resided there. She adopted
with enthusiasm the principles and ideas of
the revolution, and wrote of it with a fervour
that amounted almost to frenzy. She
became acquainted with many of the
leading Girondists, was thrown into prison
by Robespierre, and narrowly escaped the
fate of so many of her friends. In 1817 she
took out letters of naturalisation in France,
and died in Paris on Dec. 15, 1827. A long
account of her will be found in the
' D.N.B.' ARCHIBALD SPABKE.
Charlotte Ann Burney in January, 1783,
found her " superfinely affected," and Mary
Wollstonecraft writing from Paris in Decem-
ber, 1794, notes her affectation, " yet the
simple goodness of her heart continually
breaks through the varnish." I have seen
it stated that she was Imlay's mistress.
Johnson met her at Hoole's in 1785 (see
Boswell), and Wordsworth met her in Paris
later (see Harper's ' Life of Wordsworth ').
G. G. L.
MANOR RECORDS (12 S. v. 182).— The
Court Rolls of a manor remain in the
custody of the lord of the manor — in
practice with his steward who is usually a
solicitor. In some cases they have been
deposited with the Board of Agriculture
under Copyhold Act 1894 s. 64. A list of
manor customs is collected by Watkins in
his book on Copyholds. Where the Crown
is lord of the manor the Court Rolls are
either with the Duchy of Lancaster Officers
or the Commissioners of Woods, &c.
G. D. JOHNSTON.
10 Old Square. Lincoln's Inn. W.C.2.
The Manorial Court Rolls should be in
possession of the lord of the manor. There
are many Manor Court Rolls in the Public
Record Office, Chancery Lane, and a printed
list of them is issued by the Stationery
Office. Refer to Mr. N. J. Hone's ' The
Manor and Manorial Records,' second edi-
tion (Methuen, 1912), and to The Manorial
Society, 1 Mitre Court Buildings, Temple,
E.G. '
Court Rolls, being regarded as private
title-deeds, have been much scattered and
destroyed. A well-known dealer would sell
these invaluable records in separate mem-
branes, so that the records of any one Court
may at the present time be scattered all over
the world. Every effort should be made to
save what remain of them, and one of the
best methods is to join the Manorial Society.
GEORGE SHERWOOD.
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245
' TRILBY ' : ' LIFE OF HENRY MAITLAND ' :
£EYS WANTED (12 S. v. 151).— The fol-
owing is my opinion. In ' Trilby ' du
laurier introduced Gleyre's Studio in
Jaris ("Carrel's"). "Little Billee " was
Frederick Walker, and " the Laird," T. R.
jamont. " Taffy " was a composite of
nore than one original, notably of a certain
riend of Mr. Armstrong and Sir Edward
^oynter — " a splendidly built and hand-
lome athlete," writes Canon Ainger.
Vhistler was " Joe Sibley ; " and, per-
laps as the portrait was rather too like,
te " took it in snuff " and wrote fiercely
o The Pall Matt Gazette. An apology was
nserted in Harper's Magazine (wherein
Trilby ' was running) for January, 1895.
Che original numbers are before me, and
lu Maurier was certainly emphatic enough
vith both pen and pencil. His drawings of
/Vhistler are not to be mistaken. When the
lovel appeared in book form the place of
Sibley was filled by one Anthony, " tall and
(tout and slightly bald," writes Whistler,
>xultingly. He had been consulted in
Anthony's making. So his self-respect is
•e-instated. When ' Trilby ' was burlesqued
it the Gaiety, Whistler was represented as
' The Stranger," but was unrecognized and
ipeedily disappeared.
GEORGE MARSHALL.
21 Parkfield Road, Liverpool.
The reference to Whistler in Du Mauri er's
lovel is dealt with fully in his ' Life,' by
5. R. and J. Pennell, vol. ii. pp. 160 et seq.
Che omission of " Joe Sibley " from the book
ifter serial publication is also mentioned in
George du Maurier,' by T. Martin Wood,
vho states that even Whistler himself
' confessed " to a regret for the disappear -
ince ; this seems so improbable, in view of
Vhistler's resentment of the characterisation,
hat it would be interesting to know if there
s any authority for the confession.
F. J. P.
R.. S. SURTEES (12 S. v. 122).— Robert
>mith Surtees was the second son of An-
hony Surtees of Milkwell Burn and Ham-
terley Hall, co. Durham, and of Ackworth
:*ark, co. York, by Alice Beaumont his wife,
ister of Christopher Beaumont of Wylam,
tl.P. for South Northumberland, and his
ddest brother Anthony having died aged 30
kt Malta, March 24, 1831, in vita patris,
ucceeded his father in the above mentioned
(states, March 5, 1838. He was born in
i803, was a J.P. and D.L. for Durham
Bounty, and served as High Sheriff, 1856,
and was for some time major in the Durham
militia. He died at Brighton, March lQr
1864. He was succeeded by his only son
Anthony, who died at Rome, March 17, 1871r
unmarried, aged 24, and his two daughters
succeeded to the estates. F. DE H. L.
JENNER FAMILY (12 S. v. 149).— The
conjecture at the end of this note that a
certain Thomas Jenner, son of Josiahr
became President of Magdalen College,
Oxford, in 1747, is without foundation.
The president's father was John Jenner, of
Standish, co. Gloucester. (See W. D.
Macray, Magdalen College Register vi. 153.)*
W. A. B. C.
GRIM OR GRIME (12 S. v. 95, 137, 160).—
Grim was a Scandinavian (Danish) adven-
turer (like Asgar, Hacon, Orm, &c.), who gave-
his name to Grimsby (and they to Asgarby,
Haconby, Ormsby, &c.), "by" signifying
(originally) a dwelling or single farm, and
(eventually) a village. The suffix is common
in Denmark, and is also found in the names
of places colonized by Danes. (See G. S.-
Streatfield's ' Lincolnshire and the Danes,'
19.) Until the abolition of the dues in the
Sound, vessels belonging to Grimsby could
claim certain privileges and exemptions at
the port of Elsinore which had been con,-
f erred by the Danish founder of the town.
(See Palgrave, ' English Commonwealth,'
i. 50, and ' Normandy and England,'
iii. 349.) Besides the Grimsby in Lincoln-
shire, one ought not to forget that the chief
port of Scilly is also called Grimsby. There
is a Grim's dyke near Salisbury (part of the-
old boundary between the Saxons and
Welsh); Grime's dyke in Scotland (part of
the old northern wall of Antoninus twixt
Forth and Clyde) ; Grime's ditch in Cheshire-
(an old earthwork). See Chalmers's ' Cale-
donia,' i. 119. J. W. FAWCETT.
SOMERSET INCUMBENTS (12 S. v. 153). —
MR. FAWCETT and others may be interested^
to read an extract from the Report of the
Somersetshire Archaeological and Natural-
History Society, read at the annual meeting
of the society at Taunton on July 29 last : —
"From the Rev. F. W. Weaver, F.S.A., has been*
received his library copy of ' Somerset Incum-
bents,' which he edited in 1889, together with a
considerable amount of additional information in
the form of letters and loose manuscript sheets.
Further entries have been made in the Society's
interleaved copy of ' Somerset Incumbents,' and
your Council is anxious to hear of somebody willing
to undertake the collation of the memoranda
preserved with the copy which Mr. Weaver has
presented, and the additions and corrections to the
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part having reference to the Archdeaconry of
Welle, compiled and recently given to your Society
by the Rev. Prebendary Daniel. Your Council
has been informed by Sir H. Maxwell Lyte,
K.C.B., that in the Literary Search Room of the
Public Record Office there is a series of Institution
Books from 1720 to 1838, which give the name of
the incumbent, the date of institution, and the
name of the patron. The diocese of Bath and
Wells is in Series C., Vol. I., which is arranged
under parishes alphabetically."
H. ST. GEORGE GRAY.
Taunton Castle.
EXCHANGE OF SOULS IN FICTION (12 S.
<-. 124, 191). — Something of the kind occurs
in Mrs. Margaret L. Woods' s novel ' The
Invader.' C. L. S.
An early 'Tale from Blackwood' ('The
Metempsychosis ' ) is an interesting example.
J. K.
South Africa.
EAST ANGLIAN CHARACTERS AND CHARAC-
TERISTICS (12 S. v. 178). — It would appear
that the persons named were contemporaries
of the writer B. S., and were of or connected
with Norwich. The Parr must have been
the well-known headmaster of Norwich
Grammar School, Rev. Samuel Parr, D.D.,
and the references to " birch " and " Greek
. discourse " make that clear.
The following names are suggested : —
.Bacon. — Edward Bacon of Earlham, Norwich,
Recorder and M.P. for many years.
Dewing. — Edward Dewing of Guist, after 1785, was
Master of the Norwich staghounds.
Addey. — John Addey, Mayor of Norwich, 1773.
• GuttinQ. — William Cutting, Sheriff of Norwich,
1790.
Parson Brand. — Rev. John Brand, or Rev. Fitz-
john Brand.
Burcham. — Rev. John Burchanu Rector of St.
Simon and St. Jude, Norwich, 17:36-91.
C. G.
HERVEY OR HERVET (12 S. v. 95, 167, 189).
— Prof. Weekley in his ' Surnames '
makes the observation that the suffixes -itt
•: and -ett, as in the personal names Hewitt
: and Willett, are not always diminutives,
but are occasionally only altered forms, here
of Heward and Wlllard, the termination
being the same as in " dullard," " coward,'
&c. ; but these cases are exceptions. In
the case of Hervey, the Latin form, Herveus,
occurs twice in Domesday, so that I suspect
Hervet resulted from a contracted Latinised
variant Hervetus, which proved to be more
durable than the other ; compare Lat
privus, single, whence privatus, and ulti
: mately Eng. privet ; especially as S. H. A. H
informs us that both Hervey and Hervet
were applied concurrently to the same family.
Solecisms arose in Norman and Plan-
tagenet times, as I pointed out (10 S.
xii. 515; 11 S. i. 58), through the difficulty
Norman functionaries experienced in adapt-
ing their tongue to an Anglo-Saxon voca-
bulary ; PO that A.S. hedh tyd, high festival,
ecame haul tyd by the substitution of the
Yench adjective ; and this through the
Church's influence soon got popularized as
Hocktide : a word which had for long
mffled the skill of that ardent philologist the
ate Prof. Skeat. Thus it often happens that
rregularities occur in the development of
surnames and place-names, such as those to
which S. H. A. H. alludes, by means of
phonetic decay and popular assimilation ;
:hus Culmundelei in D.B., literally Ceol-
iiund's pasture, became Cholmondeley —
which Bardsley took to be of Norman origin
— the modern Chumleigh.
N. W. HILL.
BIRD -SCARING SONGS (12 S. v. 98, 132,
160). — Here is another sample which will,
[ hope, be acceptable to MR. SAMPSON. I
take it from Halliwell's ' Popular Rhymes
and Nursery Tales,' p. 179, where it is said
:o be " the universal bird-shooers song in the
Midland counties " : —
Awa' birds, awa,'
Take a peck
And leave a seek,
And come no more to-day.
' The Nursery Rhymes of England ' at p. 264
supplies another bird-boy's song : —
Eat birds eat, and make no waste,
I lie here and make no haste ;
If my master chance to come,
You must fly and I must run.
ST. SWITHIN.
PHILIP WESTCOTT, PORTRAIT PAINTER
(12 S. iii. 385 ; iv. 55, 314).— The Committee
of Royal Museum and Art Galleries, Peel
Park, Salford, own oil portraits of Stephen
Heelis, whom your querist refers to in hia
note, William Lockett (full length), E. R.
Langworthy, M.P., 1853 (full length), John
Kay, 1858 (half length), all presented by
subscribers. Joseph Brotherton, M.P. ;
donor, County Borough Council. All of
these pictures are painted by Philip West-
cott, who was born in 1815. His practice
was principally in the North of England,
notably in Liverpool and Manchester.
He expired January, 1878.
FRED L. TAVARE.
22 Trentham Street, Pendleton, Manchester.
12 S. V. SEPT., 1919.]
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247
HEREDITY : LONG HAIR (12 S. v. 177).—
[y grandmother often, spoke of my great -
reat -grandmother (Hutton of Lanarkshire),
^ho at the age of 96 had snow-white hair,
?aching the ground when seated on an
rdinary chair. Two of my aunts in the
ame line had long heads of hair at the age
f 79. My sister's hair reached her ankles,
nd my own hair laid a good inch on the
round when standing, enormously thick, so
nuch so that friends used to spin me round
nd bet whether I was facing them or other-
wise. My height was 5 ft. 4 in. My hair
LOW is over 3 ft. long, nearly white ; my
,ge 77. Headache has been unknown to me.
was born in India, and lived some time in
Queensland, thermometer often 117° in
hade. E. C. WIENHOLT.
7 Shooter's Hill Road, Blackheath, S.E.3.
MRS. ANNE DUTTON (12 S. ii. 147, 197,
515, 275, 338, 471 ; iii. 78, 136). — Hearing
hat the identical Bible used by her was still
n existence and preserved in the Baptist
Library, Broughton, Hants, I wrote making
nquiries, when I received a photograph of it,
vith the following particulars. Size 6^ in.
jy 3^ in. by If in., bound in leather, with
}wo metal clasps, one of which is broken.
Eitle-page :—
" The Holy Bible, containing the Old and New
Festament. * Newly translated out of the original
tongues and with the former translations dili-
gently compared and revised. | With Marginal
aotes | shewing | The Scripture to (be) the best
Interpreter of Scripture | London. | Printed by
Charles Bill, and the Executrix of Thomas
Newcomb deceas'd. | Printers to the King and
Most Excellent Majesty Anno Dom. 1698."
After the names and order of the Books
there is an address, " To the Reader, on
the Scripture being the best Interpreter o^
Scripture," signed " John Canne." On one
of the fly -leaves (in very minute writing) if
a copy of an address : —
" To the right honourable Lords and Commons
assembled in the high Court of PARLIAMENT
Great Reformers, &c., also signed ' John Canne.' |
' Extracted from ye Amsterdam Edition o
Canne's Bible. 12mo, 1647.' "
" Inscriptions | Ann Button or One who hath
tasted that the ' Lord ' is gracious. [ Grea
Gransden | Huntingdonshire."
Inserted in another hand : —
" Died 1765, November 17 | Anne Steele, Junr
j Broughton, Hampshire."
Also in another hand : —
" Theodosia died 1778, Nov. llth, aged 61 yrs.'
The first inscription is in Mrs. Dutton's
own unmistakable minute hand, with
" Lord " as always by her in capitals, anc
nost probably the above extract from
anne's is hers also, as her husband visited
lolland, and preached at Rotterdam in
735.
My kind correspondent at Broughton
asks the usual question : " Who was
VErs. Dutton ? " The unique library at
Broughton was collected by John Collins
of Devizes, a former deacon at Broughton,
and bequeathed to the church there at his
leath. Diligent search has been made, but
no work of Mrs. Dutton's can be found
among its treasures, and how or when the
Bible came into the possession of the •
afflicted but gifted hymn-writer Anne Steele
yet remains to be known. Neither ladies
it any time travelled far from their homes, •
but might have known each other by corre-
spondence, and similarity of sentiment.
Mrs. Dutton's correspondence was very
xtensive. R. H.
COWAP (12 S. v. 206).— As a Cumberland
or Westmorland name the suffix is probably
-hope, common in place-names, but of very
vague meaning. Thus, cow-hope. This -hope
becomes in compounds -ap, -ip, -ep, -op, -up. -
With Cowap cf. Harrap (hare-hope).
ERNEST WEEKLEY.
University College, Nottingham.
In Harrison's ' Surnames of the United "
Kingdom ' (Eaton Press, 1912), the deriva-
tion of the above name is given as " Dweller
at the cow-hope," the cow-hope being a
shelter in some hollow valley, or hill-recess.
ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
ST. ALKELDA (12 S. v. 152, 190). —
MR. SELF WEEKS and MR. ARMSTRONG
would derive kelda from Anglo - Saxon,
but no such word is to be found in
Bosworth and Toller's Dictionary, either
under C or K. Cleasby and Vigfusson's
' Icelandic Dictionary,' however, gives kelda
=well or spring ; and keld is noted in the
' E.D.D.' as a North- Country word for well.
Kelda enters into the composition of place-
names in Denmark (Roeskilde) and Iceland
(Keldin). Bjorkman (f. 141) gives it as an
old West Scandinavian word. Consult
' Handbook of Lancashire Place-Names,' by
J. Sephton, 1913, and ' Place-Names in
Lancashire,' by Wyld and Hirst, 1911 ; as
also ' Norske Gaardnavne,' O. Rygh, 1898
(the Introduction), and ' Northmen in
Cumberland,' Ferguson, 1856, f. 119. The
Norse for " holy " would be heilagr, which,
according to Munch, gives Heiligstadir, now
Heilstad, pronounced Helstad. See K.
Rygh, ' Helgoland's Stednavne,' f. 65, in
248
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. v. SEPT., 1919.
'Norsk. Hist. Tidskrt.,' 1, and also J.
Nordlander, ' Norrlandska Ortnam,' 1881,
f. 25. I would submit that Norse, and not
Anglo-Saxon, accounts for Alkelda. In
' Northern Folk -Lore on Wells and Water,'
by Alex. Fraser, Inverness, 1878, reference
is made to a spring in Burgie-Forres :
Tubernacrumkel, no doubt a composite word,
which the author says should be Gaelic
. tobar nan crum ghiall !
ALEX. G. MOFFAT.
Swansea.
'THE VILLAGE BLACKSMITH' (12 S.
v. 211). — The original blacksmith's shop is
generally supposed to have been situated in
the village of Edgware, Middlesex, and to
have been visited by Handel, while staying
at Canon's Park with the Duke of Chandos.
But a monument was put up at a com-
paratively recent date in the church at Little
Stanmore or Whit-church, which is scarcely a
mile from Edgware, to the memory of
"William Powell, the Harmonious Black-
smith," which would seem to indicate that he
at least lived at Whitchurch for some period
-of his life though his shop may not have been
there. F. DE H. L.
' The Poetical Works of Longfellow,' pub-
lished by Cassell & Co. about 1886, has on
p. 58 the words of this well-known poem,
with a wood-engraving of the smithy. Re-
ferring to this in the ' Notes on Illustra-
tions' is the following: —
"From fa water -color painting, in Mr. Long-
fellow's possession, of the blacksmith shop and
chestnut tree, which stood for many years , on
Brattle Street in Cambridge, not far from the
poet's house. The smithy was subsequently
removed to make place for a dwelling-house, and
the tree has since been cut down upon the plea
that its low-hanging branches rendered passage
dangerous."
W. S. P.
" ABGYLES " OR GRAVY-POTS : ".TEA
KITCHENS" (12 S. v. 154, 219).— John,' 5th
Duke of Argyle, was born in 1823, so if
" Argyles " were his invention the period of
their introduction was probably early
George III. It would be of interest to hear
further from LADY CONSTANCE RUSSELL on
this subiect. Can she tell us how it came
about that her great -great -grandfather
invented " Argyles," whilst apparently her
great grandfather was the first to use them.
Are the articles she mentions silver or Old
Sheffield plate ? and will she be good enough
to let us know the date of their manufacture,
or any other interesting particulars in con-
nection with them ? Having discovered the
inventor of " Argyles," can any of your
readers throw light on the origin and exact
meaning of "Tea Kitchens," found so de-
scribed in Old Silver Assay Office books and
lists of plate about 150 years since. In all
probability they were what are to-day known
as Tea Kettles. Matthew Boulton, writing
to his wife from London in 1767, says : " I
am to wait upon their majesties again as
soon as our tripod Tea Kitchen arrives."
FREDK. BRADBURY.
Sheffield.
REV. THOMAS HUGO (12 S. v. 207).—
This celebrated cleric, scholar and anti-
quary was the son of Dr. Charles Hugo and
was born at Taunton in 1820 ; he died at
his rectory of West Hackney, in the north-
east of London in 1876. He was educated
at Worcester College, Oxford, where he
graduated B.A. in 1842, and M.A. in 1850.
Having been ordained by Dr. Sumner, after-
wards Archbishop of Canterbury, he served
several curacies in the North of England ;
for a very short time he was vicar of Halli-
well, near Bolton-le-Moors. In 1851 he
came to London, as senior curate of St.
Botolph's, Bishopsgate, a church which is
still connected with the Honourable Artillery
Company of which ancient military body
he subsequently became chaplain. In 1858
he was appointed to the living of All Saints,
Bishopsgate Street, which he exchanged
for the rectory of West Hackney in 1868,
and here he remained for the rest of his life.
He was a member of a large number of
learned societies, amongst others : The
Royal Society of Literature, The Society
of Antiquaries, The London and Middlesex
Archaeological Society and the Genealogical
Society of Great Britain. He was a
voluminous author, and wrote on a number
of subjects : theological, archaeological, liter-
ary, Church government, &c., also many
hymns, forming a supplement to ' Hymns
Ancient and Modern,' as well as numerous
articles in the Transactions of learned
societies, and in various magazines, &c.
" Our author published in 1866 ' A critical and
descriptive catalogue of the works of the Brothers
Thomas and John Bewick ' (the celebrated wood
engravers of Newcastle-upon-Tyne), of which Mr.
Hugo possessed the finest collection ever formed,
including many of the original wood blocks. This
was followed in 1868 b> ' The Bewick Collector,' a
supplement to the foregoing, and two years later
appeared a volume of ' Bewick's Woodcuts,' with
an introduction, a descriptive catalogue of the
blocks, and a list of books and pamphlets illus-
trated."
This last paragraph I take from an Intro-
duction to a most interesting book, entitled
12 S. V. SEPT., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
249
Miscellaneous Papers by the late Rev.
Thomas Hugo, M.A., Rector of West
rlackney.' The book was published by
/[asters in 1878. It was designed as a
memorial volume of this great scholar.
A short account of his life is given in the
ntroduction, and specimens of his sermons,
peeches, papers, &c., are given to show the
rariety of his work, both in Church and
State. His archaeological treatises show
great research, as do his scientific papers.
He belonged to a family of French ex-
traction. He was a man much admired
as a scholar, and greatly beloved as a parish
priest. As a very young man, I had the
privilege of hearing him on several occasions,
his descriptions were clear, and clothed in
most beautiful language, while the charm
of his delivery I can never forget. The
•volume I have mentioned contains a biblio-
graphical list of his publications, but I have
not been able to find a complete list of his
papers and reviews, which are scattered up
and down many volumes of various Trans-
actions, magazines, and other periodicals.
G. YARROW BALDOCK, Major.
TURNER FAMILY OF SHRIGLEY PARK,
co. CHESTER (12 S. v. 94). — Adverting to my
query at the above reference I am indebted
to MR. R. GRIME for notes on this family
extracted from the ' History of Blackburn,'
by Mr. W. A. Abram.
The notes give me particulars of the
ancestry of William Turner, M.P., of
Shrigley Park, co. Chester, and the names
of the latter's brothers, Thomas, Robert,
and John, but do not state the connexion
between this family and Emanuel Turner
(born 1825), the Committee Clerk to the
Manchester Corporation from 1842 to 1857.
I should be glad if any of your readers
could tell me whom the following gentlemen
married : —
1. Robert Turner of Mart holme in 1687,
buried at Great Harwood, December, 1727.
2. Thomas Turner (son of the above),
Trustee of Township Charities, 1743 and
1759.
3. Thomas Turner (son of above Thomas)
of Altham, born 1732, died April 10, 1812.
4. Robert Turner (brother of No. 3),
born 1734, died October, 1811.
5. Thomas, James, and William (sons of
No. 3).
6. Thomas, Robert, and John (sons of
No. 4), brothers of William Turner, the
member of Parliament for Blackburn.
JAMES SETON-ANDERSON.
4 Temple Street, Brighton.
SEVEN KINGS (12 S. v. 210).— Presumably
the name is derived from the seven sovereigns
who were styled Bretwaldas, viz., Ella of
Sussex, 491-510 ; Ceawlin of Wessex, 560-93;
Ethelbert of Kent, 560-616; Redwald of
East Anglia, 599-620 ; Edwin of Northum-
bria, 617-33 ; Oswald of Northumbria, -
634-42 ; and Oswy of Northumbria, 642-70,
WlLLOUGHBY MAYCOCK.
The name is derived from a legend to the
effect that seven kings met there during the
time of the Heptarchy. The subject was
discussed in ' East London Antiquities/ by
W. Locks ; ' Ilford, Past and Present,' by
G. Tasker ; ' Sketch of Barking,' by E.
Tuck,' and ' London's Forest,' by P. J. S.
Perceval. The same question was askecl
3 S. vi. 455 (1864), under 'Localities in
Essex,' and also discussed at 10 S. xi. 89r
154, 335, 376.
The earliest mention of Seven Kings is in
1437. Reference to it is made in the Record
Office Lists and Indexes, No. 11, Foreign
Accounts, p. 239. Ogilby's ' Traveller's
Guide,' 1699, also mentions " Seven Kings
Watering." G. H. W.
[MR. T. P. ARMSTRONG also thanked for reply.]
SOCIETY FOR PRESERVING THE MEMORIALS
or THE DEAD (12 S. v. 183).— This society,
which was started in 1882, has ceased to
exist. It published a Journal, the first
volume of which was completed in 1888.
The last report I have is of the tenth annual
meeting in 1892. The secretary was Mr.
William Vincent, Belle Vue Rise, Hellesdon,
Road, Norwich, who died quite recently.
GEO. W. G. BARNARD.
Norwich.
ROBERTSON (12 S. v. 208).— Robertson,
miniaturist, of Dublin, would be either
Walter Robertson or his younger brother
Charles, as both were noted miniature-
painters.
Walter was born in Dublin, about 1750,
the son of a jeweller, and towards the enct
of the eighteenth century held the first
place as a painter in miniature in that city.
He was known as " Irish Robertson," and
went with Gilbert C. Stuart to America.
Later he sailed for the East Indies, where
he died.
The younger brother Charles went to
London in 1806, and between 1790 and 1810
exhibited eight miniatures at the Royal
Academy. Returning to Ireland he took
a prominent part in the movement which
led to the foundation of the Royal Hibernian
Academy. ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
250
NOTES AND QUERIES. 112 s. v. SEPT., 1919.
Robertson, tne Dublin miniaturist, was
named Walter, and is known as " Irish
Robertson," apparently to distinguish him
from the three brothers Robertson, who
belonged to Aberdeenshire. He went to
America in 1783, and subsequently to India,
where he died. Bryan gives a very skimpy
paragraph on him in his encyclopaedic work
on ' Engravers.' It would be interesting to
;know if anything more has recently come to
light. J. M. BULLOCH.
37 Bedford Square, W.C.
DICKENS'S TOPOGRAPHICAL SLIPS (12 S.
v. 37, 136, 164, 187, 222).— No doubt a great
part of Dickens' s success is due to the fact
that he is so human, therefore, like all man-
kind , he is liable to error. But, after all, what
do these little " slips " matter to us ? There is
apparently a trivial one in ' Scotland Yard,'
one of the ' Sketches by Boz,' according to
4 Old and New London' (vol. ii.) the first
stone of London Bridge was laid by the
Right Hon. John Garratt, Lord Mayor, and
not " by a Duke — the King's brother."
J. ARDAGH.
METAL MORTARS (12 S. v. 209).— If J. W.
SWITHINBANK refers to the following articles
on ' Domestic and other Mortars,' the in-
formation required will be obtained : Anti-
quary, August, September, November, and
December, 1897 ; The Chemist and Druggist,
January and July, 1903, January, 1904,
and July, 1907 ; The Connoisseur, August,
1906 ; The Spatula, April, 1914.
W. J. M.
INSCRIPTIONS IN ST. JOHN THE EVANGE-
LIST'S, WATERLOO ROAD : R. W. ELLISTON'S
PLACE OF EDUCATION (12 S. v. 63, 135, 193,
216). — Charles Lamb, in ' Essays of Elia,'
Second Series ; ' Ellistoniana ' (published
1831) gives a clear indication when he
apostrophises his late friend : —
" Thou wert a scholar, and an early ripe one,
under the roofs builded by the munificent and
pious Colet. For thee the Pauline muses weep.
In elegies that shall silence this crude prose, they
shall celebrate thy praise."
W. B. H.
THE HOUGHTON MEETING (12 S. v. 154). —
SIR WILLOUGHBY MAYCOCK seems to be
correct in his surmise. Sir Robert Walpole
held a " hunting congress " of the neigh-
bouring gentry at Houghton, in the Novem-
ber of every year. Horace Walpole has a
description of such a " congress." The
name and the season would be chosen in his
honour for the Newmarket meeting.
GEORGE MARSHALL.
PORTRAITS ON GRAVESTONES (12 S. ii. 210,
277, 377, 459 ; Hi. 14).— The Rev. T. D.
Whitaker, LL.D., in his ' History of Rich-
mondshire,' ii. (1823), 452-3, writes : —
" In the churchyard [of Garstang, Lancashire!
near the east end of the church, is a stone, in
length BIX feet seven inches, breadth two feet one
nch. On it is a nude cumbent figure in mezzo
relievo, with the hands joined on the breast. At
the head is inscribed : —
LEONARD FOSTER, BURIED NOVEMBER, AN. 1631.
The man, as it appears by the parish register,
died of the plague, and his tomb deserves to be
mentioned, as containing the last specimen, which
I am aquainted with ; of an attempt to sculpture
the human form on a gravestone."
Is any later specimen known ? J. W. F.
"PRO PELLE CUTEM" (12 S. v. 93, 132,
164, 217). — I surmise that as cutis regularly
means human skin and pellis non-human
hide, the motto " pro pelle cut em " means :
" (We risk) human life to get seal-skin," or:
" We pay for the seal's hide with suffering
(danger, &c.) to our own skin."
Juv. x. 192, and Hor., Epod. 17.22, are
two passages in which pellis is used with
deliberate significance of human skin deterior-
ated and coarsened. H. K. ST. J. S.
" APOCHROMATIC " (12 S. v. 209).—
" Apochromatic " is clearly compounded of
the prefix " apo " and the word " chromatic,"
which is derived from the Greek word chroma
with the long o. F. DE H. L.
COL. COLQUHOUN GRANT (12 S. iv. 326;
v. 54). — There were three contemporary,
officers of this name : ( 1 ) Colquhoun Grant,
M.D., Surgeon to the 74th Foot in 1832, from
Apr. 16, 1812 ; (2) Major-General Sir (John)
Colquhoun Grant, M.P., a Cavalry officer,
who fought at Waterloo; and (3) Lieut. -
Col. Colquhoun Grant, who is the man
wanted, of whom Sir John Philipparfc's
« Royal Military Calendar,' 3rd ed., 1820,
says : —
"Ensign, llth Foot, Sept. 9, 1795; Lieut., April
5, 1796 ; Capt., Nov. 19, 1801 ; Brev.-Maj., May 30,
1811 ; Brev. Lt.-Col., May 19, 1814, and Maj., llth
Foot, Oct. 13 following ; he is now on the half-pay
of the llth foot. He served as an Assist.-Quar.-
Mast.-Gen. in Spain and Portugal : he also served
in Flanders and was present at the battle of
Waterloo."
I can carry his career a little further
(from the Army Lists) by adding that he
was on half -pay of major llth Foot, 1816
to 1821, and junior lieutenant -colonel 54th
Foot, Nov. 25, 1821, till he re ired Dec. 24 or
25, 1829. He was made a C.B. 1822, and was
living twenty years later (Dod's ' Peerage,'
1842). W. R. WILLIAMS.
2 8. V. SEPT., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
251
0tt
[story of the Worshipful Company of Glaziers
of the City of London. By Charles Henry
Ashdown, F.R.G.S. With contributory notes
by Percy W. Berriman Tippetts, Clerk and
Solicitor to the Company. (Blades, East &
Blades [1919], roy. 8vo, viii-163 pp., 8 plates.
12s. Qd.
LMSEY'S ' History of the Worshipful Company
Glass-sellers of London ' appeared in 1898,
t contributed little, if anything, of value to
p knowledge of the history of glass in England
[or to the Restoration. The volume before us
als with a wider theme ; for the art of the
tzier originally included glass-painting and
lining and the records of this art go far back
x> the Middle Ages. The subject naturally
rides itself into two parts — the art of window
iss-making and that of the painter-glazier.
their inception both arts were under the
tronage of the Church, and may be regarded
monastic industries.
The early history of glass-making and the
tmology of the craft are obscure, and as Jeames
la Pluche would have said, " wropped in
retery," for the local industry nowhere appears
indigenous. The Sussex industry is thought
have been of French extraction ; the Normandy
iss-makers were not Normans ; the Lorraine
iss-makers are said to have been of Bohemian
igin. Of what race were these aliens ? Their
cupation was an hereditary one and rigidly
eserved by close intermarriage. On the Con-
lent special privileges were claimed and con-
ded by charter. Certain features in the history
the craft suggest a Jewish origin, but this is a
gression which cannot here be pursued, for the
3rk before us deals only perfunctorily with the
story of English glass-making. The object of
5 authors is to trace the rise and fortunes of the
mdon Company ; the earliest mention of which
found in Guildhall Records of the year 1328.
lis list is of considerable interest, as are the
bsequent regulations adopted for the govern-
ent of the Guild, but the later history of the
jmpany fails to incorporate the results of
cent investigation in the well-known treatise
Hartshorne, and the numerous articles in The
ntiquary and ' N. & Q.' For instance, the
lations of the foreign colony of glaziers to the
Dndon Company in the reign of Henry VIII.
•e of supreme importance, for they show that
; the period when glass-painting had reached
3 height, the Crown patronage was almost
Delusively bestowed on the Flemish glaziers of
mthwark. The glazing at Fairford appears to
ive set the fashion which was subsequently
llowed at Westminster and Cambridge. The
lemish colony prospered at the expense of the
ondon glaziers. The latter appealed to the
3urt of Star Chamber, but apparently with
different success for Flemish design continued
> dominate English glass-painting right through
te sixteenth and seventeenth centuries. This
•itical period in the history of English glazing
represented in the work before us by a solitary
jtition of the English glaziers in 1541-42. In
lap. iv. the same want of familiarity with the
nblished history of the art is shown. Isaac
Bongar, for instance, is introduced as an un-
familiar personage, although Hartshorne has
dealt with him at some length and with scant
courtesy. Bongar, the sworn opponent of Mansel
and Monopoly, asserted that his ancestors were
the first to introduce window glass-making into
this country. This much-commented-on state-
ment has generally been interpreted to mean that
Bongar came over with the French immigrants
early in the reign of Elizabeth, and helped to
spread the art of making " muff " glass through-
out the country. The late Mr. Cooper of
Chiddingfold, however, suggested to the present
reviewer that Bongar's statement may have
referred to an earlier immigration, as there was a
parcel of land in Chiddingfold still known as
' Bungler's Field." The whole history of the
Mansel Monopoly is set out with such detail in
Hartshorne's work that it was hardly necessary
bo go over the same ground again. Buckley's
[earned monographs on the taxation, &c., of
English glass do not appear to have been con-
sulted, and we have no disquisition on the intro-
duction, rise and fall of the English " Crown "
glass industry.
Notwithstanding these defects of omission we
are sincerely grateful to the author for the
publication of this work. It contains material
of value and data that are now revealed for the
first time. We did not, for instance, know of the
existence of a glass furnace at Newgate in 1580,
and there is much in this volume that will help
the student of glazing to bridge the gaps, in the
history of the craft. The volume is handsomely
produced and will be sought after by collectors,
and we look forward to its publication at no
distant date in a second and extended edition.
Milton : Areopagitiea. With a Commentary by Sir
Richard 0. Jebb ; and with supplementary
material. ( Cambridge University Press, 3s. net.' )
MILTON'S famous plea for the liberty of the Press
failed to achieve its object ; but it remains the
finest of his prose works, and includes the most
celebrated of tributes to England as " a noble and
puissant nation." Jebb, as Mr. Waller explains
in his brief foreword, printed privately the notes
here given for a course of lectures as long ago as
1872. It was an excellent idea to publish them
with additions by Mr. A. W. Verity, who is well
known as one of the soundest editors of English
classics, and particularly of Milton's poems. The
volume thus ranks with the Pitt Press Series of
Schoolbooks, and is admirably equipped for the use
of students. Jebbs' mastery of the subject and
his clear and graceful English make his notes ex-
cellent. He did not deal in detail with points of
English and allusions which wsre well worth bring-
ing out, and Mr. Verity's work here fills out the
scheme.
The only objection is that the two sets of note-?
are not printed together, so that the student has
to refer to two places to find whether there is any
assistance for him. So much, however, is done
nowadays for the learner that this little addition
to his trouble should not matter. We are par-
ticularly glad to see that the notes deal with
derivations and give parallels for odd words or
usages. This is the best way to fix them on the
mind. We find, for instance, good notes on " its "
and "monopoly," in each case with references to
1 Shakespeare's England.'
252
NOTES AND QUERIES. 1 12 s.v. SEPT., 1919.
Mr. Verity has added a judicious Life of Milton,
in which he justly refers to the "barren" contro-
versy with Salmasius. A poet such as Milton was
wasting his time in a slanging match. It seems
rather odd at this time of day to refer to "Mr.
Mark Pattison." Perhaps the little Life was
written when he was not generally known as a
scholar of great repute.
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Part II. of the Catalogue, which is wholly
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* Luther and the Reformation.' Further headings
are Magic and Witchcraft, Mathematics, Medical
Books, Music, Roman Catholic, including an inte-
resting ' Papal Indulgence,' imprinted in London
by Richard Faques in 1520, and is a form of indul-
gence granted to such as should become members
of the confraternity of the Hospital of the Holy
Spirit at Rome. It was issued by Philip Mulartr
the Papal Commissary in England aud Ireland,
and granted to all benefactors certain specified
privileges. Richard Faques issued about 24 dif-
ferent books, but for some reason almost everything
he printed is of the greatest rarity, quite one half
of his productions being known only from single
copies or fragments. Another item of interest is
the Papal Bull against the Russians granted by
Pope Julius II. in 1506, being a Bull of indulgence
to all those who should assist in person or in purse
in resisting the heretical and schismatic Russians.
The Indulgence was made in favour of the King of
Poland, who in the following year defeated the
Russians, under Czar Basilius, and slew thirty
thousand of them.
The Catalogue concludes with a number of
interesting Spanish books, the first Aldine edition
of ^Esop, and some additional manuscripts with
miniatures.
MESSRS. C. J. SAWYER, LTD., of 23 New
Oxford Street, London, have recently issued
another of their excellently produced Illustrated
Catalogues (No. 55).
This interesting list contains a fine selection
of Illustrated Works, Picture Galleries, and rare-
Colour-Plate Books in choice condition, a larg»
and finely executed Original Oil Painting of
Charles Dickens, by W. P. Frith, B.A., and a
magnificent large Oil Painting of Greenwich from.
Observatory Hill by Thomas Shotter Boys,;
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those are shewn in the list. Amongst the n>is-i
cellaneous items we note fine bound sets of
Modern Authors, British Poets, British EssayistsJ
&c., beautiful bindings, and a first rate copy oli
Le win's ' Birds of Great Britain,' illustrated witbi
the original water colour drawings. Also Auto-
graph Letters from Samuel Johnson to Mrs-
Piozzi on the death of her husband, and a number
of other autograph letters from the Townshend
Collection.
We also notice what is possibly one of the
greatest extra-illustrated works ever attempted,.
' Life of George Cruikshank,' by BlanchardL
Jerrold, the two crown octavo volumes extended
to four folio volumes by the insertion of over;
1,700 rare colour plates, caricatures, autograph.
letters, drawings, playbills, &c., sumptuously
bound in polished levant morocco, at the price oC
400Z.
WE cannot undertake to answer queries privately,,
but we will forward advance proofs of answers-
received if a shilling is sent with the query;,
nor can we advise correspondents as to the value
of old books and other objects or as to the means of
disposing of them.
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Forwarded.
ST. SWITHIN.— Yes.
CORRIGENDA.— Ante, p. 190, col. 1, 1. 16, for
"Falkland" and "Fally" read Falkland, Folly •--
P. 201, col. 2, 1. 21, for " Marchaumort " read
Marchaumont.—P. 211, col. 1, 1. 19 from foot, for
"Permissa" read Permissu.— P. 214, col. 1,3 1. M|
for " urning" read mourning.
2 8. V. OCT., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
253
LONDON, OCTOBER, 1919
CONTENTS.— No. 97.
TES:— Temple Bar, 253— 'The Tragedy of Nero 'and
Piso's Conspiracy,' 254— John Sykes, Nelson's Coxswain,
57— Cowper's 'Sephus,' 258— Statues and Memorials in
he British Isles, 259 -East Hatley Brasses, 260— Capt.
William Considine— Piano Legs in Trousers— Stepney for
he Ocean-Born— A Spurious Charter of the Conqueror,
61 — "Up" and "Down": their Barbarous Misuse—
larriages— Swift and Walpole, 262— Ira F. Aldridge, 263
ERIES :— William Peer: the alleged Actor, 263 —
_harles Morris of Portraan Square — Congewoi —
American Church of England Bishops — Gilbert White's
Portrait— Coorg State : Strange Tale of a Princess— More
or Moore, 264— References to Works Wanted— Nuncupa-
tive Wills — Rede-birds — J. Symmons of Paddington
House— Court of St. James— Concannon Family, 265—
" As dead as a door-nail " — Fleet Prison Records —
" Gram " in Place-names — Richard Warnford, Win-
chester Scholar— Maurice— Derivation of Names— Two
Popes — Blackwell Hall Factor — Gender of "Dish"
in Latin, 266— Tombstone Inscription— Author of Book
Wanted— Giants' Names— Title of Book Wanted— Aster-
tion Flowers— James Wheatley : Cobbler, 267—' Quentin
Durward '—Lord [John] Vaughan— 'Tom Jones '—Authors
of Quotations Wanted, 268.
EPLIES:— 'Life of Henry Maitland': George Gissing,
269— An English Army List of 1740, 270— Thomas Shepard
—Chevalier Peter Dillon, 271— Plane Trees in London—
Cowap— Seven Kings — Queen Anne : the Sovereign's
Veto : the Royal Assent, 272— Bishops of the Fifteenth
Century — Westgarth, Inventor — Exeter Cathedral
Epitaph— Sir Walter Raleigh and Queen Elizabeth at
Sandgate— Birds Poisoning Captive Young, 273— Fenner
Family : Dudley Fenner— Bibliography of Epitaphs, 274
—George Dyer— Caractacus : Druids— Emerson's English
Traits — Proclamation Stones, 275 — John Durston : John
Dale—" Buffaloes "—Louisa spelt Leweezer— St. John
Baptist Heads, 276 — Newton, R.A. — Martin — " Apo-
chromatic "—Metal Mortars— John Wilson, Bookseller-
Mrs. Susan Cromwell — Master Gunner, 277— Church of
England Marriage Service— Mary Clarke of New York :
Vassall — Bowshot : the Longest — " When you die of old
age I shall quake for fear" — 'The Moat Island'— General
William Haviland, 278— Exchange of Souls in Fiction-
Ralph Griffith— Robertson— Finkle Street— " As jolly as
sandboys "—''Scores"— Birth and Earth Place-names, 279.
[OTES ON BOOKS :— ' Latin Epigraphy : an Introduction
to the Study of Latin Inscriptions '— ' The Natural His-
tory of the Child.'—' " The Child She Bare " '
lotices to Correspondents.
TEMPLE BAR.
[Y recent contribution on Tellson's Bank
mte, p. 37) and subsequent correspondence
inte, pp. 136, 164, 187, 222) occasioned some
^search and the reassembling of notes on
he iconography of Temple Bar for the
ssociated buildings on the south side.
Such a list has in a measure been antici-
iated by James Holbert Wilson, whose
(ublished portion of his ' Catalogue of
'ictorial Records of London ' describes many
lustrations of this outer gate of the city.
The timber gateway on this site, that was
aken down in 1670, was a survival of suc-
essive triumphal arches raised to welcome
James I., &c., and finally Charles II.
at the Restoration. Tha only illustration
of it has been re-drawn by T. H. Shepherd
and others from the small representation
in Hollar's seven-sheet map of London.
The Portland-stone gate that replaced this
was completed in 1672 from the designs of
Sir Christopher Wren, who filled in the west
side of the pediment with an altar, from
which flames rise, supported on either side
by cornucopise ; presumably an allusion to
the Great Fire and subsequent re-building of
the city.
The seventeenth- century illustrations of
Temple Bar are not only uncommon but
difficult to date correctly.
1. * The Sheet of Engravings of the Gates
of London,' by Sutton Nicholls, includes
Temple Bar.
2. ' Memoires et Observations Faites par
un Voyageur en Angleterre,' published " a
la Haye, 1698," contains a small 4to folding
plate showing the structure isolated from
its surroundings. There are a few pedes-
trians, but no other traffic. The title is
provided on a ribbon above the pediment,
' Temple Barr.'
3. The illustration in ' Les Delices de la
Grande Bretagne ' has for its title ' Temple
Barr du Cote du Couchant.' There are
several states of this familiar plate ; the
houses on the left have been added piece-
meal ; also the incident of the pair-horse
coach, the barking dogs, and the man
escaping has probably some significance.
4. A small 4to plate that may be an
English re-rendering of No. 3. The Bar is
represented in fine -line engraving, but the
streets cene and houses are etched, and the
perspective is hopelessly at fault. The
street incidents are a four-horsed coach being
met by two pair-horsed coaches from which
persons of consequence have alighted, while
horsemen proceed to the city. Pedestrians
are looking towards this incident, which may
be illustrative. The whole plate is sur-
rounded by a laurel border with title-piece
inlaid : ' Temple Barr : the West-Side.'
Other seventeenth-century illustrations
are the rare engravings of the * Solemn Mock
Processions,' usually headed by an effigy
of Sir Edmundbury Godfrey and his anta-
gonists. The procession stopped at Temple
Bar and a huge bonfire completed the cele-
bration, which apparently was held
Nov. 17, 1679, and 1680. The three (5, 6,
and 7) engravings and a descriptive pam-
phlet are fully described by J. Holbert
Wilson (see ante). It is worth noting that
Samuel Pepys the diarist completed in 1700
254
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 «. v. OCT., 1919.
his MS. catalogue entitled ' My Collection
of Prints and Drawings (as far as extant and
recoverable) relating to the Cities of London
and Westminster and their Environs.'
This only includes two west views of Temple
Bar, so his collection was not so complete as
his zeal and opportunities would lead us to
expect.
The eighteenth- century illustrations are
very numerous, and I do not claim to have
listed all, but only noted the most remark-
able.
Hogarths's view provided in the eleventh
plate (8) of the ' Hudibras ' set is fictitious,
as it illustrates an incident occurring twelve
years before Temple Bar was built (vide
Pepys's 'Diary,' Feb. 11, 1660).
Another familiar illustration of Temple
Bar is the print with the heads of Townley
and Fletcher exposed on poles above the
pediment. The original 4to etching (9) is
very scarce, but has been re-engraved, and
the lithograph inserted at p. 26 of ' Temple
Bar, the City Golgotha,' correctly represents
the illustrative part of the print. There
are in the original eight verses below an
imprint : " Published Sept. 20, 1746. Price
6cL" Of great interest are the parodies of
this engraving. One represents Lord Bute
and George III. walking through the arch,
and another has the head of Fox as the
fearful example of treason.
The Battle of Temple Bar (10) illustrated
in The Oxford Magazine, 1769, is not an
important illustration and of the published
engravings the 4to views by Roffe after W.
Capon (11), published by W. Richardson,
May 8, 1797, and by Neagle after E.
Dayes (12), published by Stockdale, 1799,
are probably the most interesting. There
are other important views: the engravings
by Malton and Morle — but I must express a
preference for two important paintings in
which Temple Bar is illustrated con-
spicuously— ' The Reception of George III.,'
now in the corridor of the Council Chamber
at the Guildhall, and a canvas by John Colet,
painted between 1741 and 1780, now in the
possession of Child & Co. The water-colour
drawings of this and the later period, by
Schnebbelie, T. H. Shepherd, and others, are
numerous, but in many instances suspect of
being ingenious reconstructions or copies
from engravings. Each must be strictly
judged for its topographical accuracy. I
also exclude some engravings that, cropped
of their imprints, cannot be identified.
The nineteenth-century illustrations of
Temple Bar are numerous, but, as book
illustrations, without special merit. When
in the seventies the clearance of buildings
for the new Courts of Justice caused the
subsidence and consequent propping of the
centre arch, the photographers were active
and I have before me a very full series ilh
trating the stages of its decay and fina
demolition. Of published illustrations ii
this period some call for special notice.
The Illustrated Times of Feb. 18, 1871
(p. 103), provides an excellent view of the
interior of the room. A rare etching by
C. W. Sherborn is of interest, and in a letter
accompanying the example before me he
says : —
" I have this day forwarded a proof impression
of my work on Temple Bar. On the left you will
see 1 have introduced the entrance to the Temple
and Child's old Banking house where Nelly
Gwyne used to Bank. On the right the Cock
Tavern, one of the oldest in London, with the
cock carved by Gibbons."
He adds that he stood at the corner of
Chancery Lane to obtain the view.
The removal and rebuilding of Temple
Bar was so much a topic of the hour and
subsequent sentiment that illustrations of
it frequently occur in Christmas greeting
cards, menus of city banquets, and other less
familiar forms of publicity. It is a distinc-
tion singular to this city gate, but makes
almost impossible this or any other effort
to provide a complete iconography.
ALECK ABRAHAMS.
51 Rutland Park Mansions, N.W.2.
' THE TRAGEDY OF NERO ' AND
'PISO'S CONSPIRACY.'
IT is peculiar how responsible historians of
literature, deeply versed in their subject,,
careful and erudite as they may be, some-
times persist, one after the other, in making
the same mistakes as to matters of fact, or
in reproducing uncritically the uncritical
assertions of earlier historians. It is easy
to make mistakes, but some mistakes seem
so ludicrous and so apparent that one
wonders how they first came to be made,
and, more, how they continued to be
repeated. Of such a mistake ' The Tragedy
of Nero ' presents an interesting example.
' The Tragedy of Nero, Emperour of
Rome,' published in 1675 and acted at the
Theatre Royal, Drury Lane, the same year,
was the first of those tragedies written by
poor Nat Lee, dark with the overlooming
melancholy of madness, yet so luridly and
so beautifully lit at time* with the fierce
lightning flashes of his gem a- Its probable
production on the stage was in the early
2 S. V. OCT., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
255
mmer, as it was licensed on June 19 and
peared from the press in the Trinity term
rber, 'The Term Catalogues,' i. 211).
le year following, 1676, another play on
B same subject, but this time styled ' Piso's
nspiracy,' and issued anonymously, was
ted at the rival playhouse at Dorset
,rden. It was licensed on Feb. 10 and
peared in book form about Easter ( ' The
rm Catalogues,' i. 227). It is concerning
lese two plays that the uncritical error
ferred to above occurs.
Gerard Langbaine, in his ' Momus
riumphans ' (1687), and later in his 'An
ccount of the English Dramatick Poets '
691), in speaking of the latter play, declares
iat it is " only the Tragedy of Nero. . . .*
eviv'd, and printed verbatim " (p. 545).
riarles Gildon, who in 1698/9 produced an
nended and enlarged edition of Lang-
line's work (' The Lives and Characters of
ie English Dramatick Poets '), amplified
is statement and announced that ' Piso's
mspiracy ' "is no more than the Tragedy
Nero, with a Title chang'd, and if you
•mpare them, will find no Difference
roughout " (p. 166). This statement was
ily copied in the various editions of the
Siographia Dramatica,' and even the Rev.
>hn Genest, in 1832, quoted Langbaine's
sertion, apparently with approval ( ' Some
3count of the English Stage,' i. 1 86). What
most surprising, however, is that, in our
odern days of most elaborate and pains-
king research, the ' Cambridge History of
iglish Literature ' should, in its biblio-
aphy of Lee, declare that ' Nero ' was
reissued in 1676 as ' Piso's Conspiracy.' '
ie whole of the statements, of course,
ice 1687, are based on the initial phrase of
tngbaine's, but that hardly excuses the
;er unverified repetition of his erroneous
3W.
The truth of the matter is that not only
there not a line of ' Piso's Conspiracy '
rrowed from ' The Tragedy of Nero,' but
it the two plays, in conception, in
aracters, in treatment, are as diverse as
o plays written on the same subject can
ry well be. Lee's drama, already rich in
rants and in its bombast, softening into
thetic little patches of pure poetry,
ounds not only in such " heroic " ex-
•mations as that of Brittanicus — " O
IDS ! Devils ! Hell, Heaven and Earth ! " —
: In * Momus Triumphans' he traces both
gedies to the same source : Suetonius, ' InVitam
ronis.' ' Piso's Conspiracy,' however, owes much
lacitus.
but also in such powerful scenes as that
where the same character runs mad, an
early sign of a fatal bent in Lee's own mind,
both of which are lacking in the later
production. The author of ' Piso's Con-
spiracy ' was obviously more concerned with
historical presentment than was Lee. He
introduces more classical allusions in his
conversation, and less of the emotional
outbursts to which Lee gives himself so much
away. For this purpose, he introduces
among his dramatis personae the characters
of Lucan and Scevinus, as well as the Seneca
common to them both, and, cutting out
Agrippina, " the Old Empress mother to
Nero," Octavia, " Nero's first wife sister of
Brittanicus,'" Cyara, " Princess of Parthia,
Mrs. [sic] of Brittanicus," Syllana, " Pop-
psea's confident," he reduces the female
persons to Poppea alone, thus considerably
diminishing the emotional element in his
play. Along with those characters which
are wanting in his drama go Brittanicus
himself, " true Heire of the Empire," Otho,
Poppea' s husband, " Caligula's Ghost,"
Dru^illus, Plautus, Silvius, and Mirmilon.
On the other hand, he adds, besides the two
mentioned above, Nimphidius, " A Noble
Man of Rome, and Favourite to Poppea,"
Tigellinus, " Nero's Creditour," Antonius,
" in Love with Poppea," a couple of other
courtiers and Memicus, the freeman of
Scevinus. Undoubtedly, the author of
' Piso's Conspiracy ' knew more of Roman
manners than did Lee. He has inserted
little scraps of translation from Juvenal and
from Persius into the general dialogue, and
such a conversation as that between Seneca,
Scevinus, and Lucan in Act I. scene iii.
shows how skilfully he could reproduce his
knowledge. Lee's tragedy " doth more
heroically sound," but in general its horror
and its strained emotions are too continuous.
There is no working up in it to a precon-
ceived end, and when we consider that it
begins with a murder we realise that our
nterest must somewhat flag ere the end be
reached. It is not the tragedy of Nero, but
of a giant monster of infamy, of a moon-
struck villain of his own diseased fancy.
In the conduct of the plot, and apart from
she obvious changes made necessary from
the difference in the dramatis persona*, the
bwo authors vary almost as far as they could
have done. In ' Piso's Conspiracy ' Poppea
dies in Act IV., stabbed by the hand of
Nero ; in Lee she is not killed until the
close of the play (Act V.), and then she falls
by Piso's dagger. Nero, also, in the former
tragedy, commits suicide at the close,
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 S. V. OCT., 191&.
naturally : while Lee makes him perish in
a supernatural manner as if the heavens were
taking revenge on his foul crimes. More-
over, to take only the more obvious dis-
similarities, Rome, in ' Piso's Conspiracy,' is
shown cor am, populo burning (Act III.
scene ii., " Scene Rome, a Fire "), with all the
accompanying emotions concomitant to that
event. In Lee the incident is omitted
entirely, for Lee was more interested in the
fires of the heart than in the fires of reality.
Variant as the anonymous tragedy is in the
matter of plot, it differs too in the region of
style. Lee's play was of the " heroic "
cast, and was penned largely, if not quite, in
rhymed verse. It is rampant, as we have
seen, in bombastic exclamations, just such
as are so prominent in Lee's other dramatic
productions : " Furies ! and Hell ! "
(' Gloriana,' Theatre Royal, 1676), " Night !
Horrour ! Death ! Confusion ! Hell ! and
Furies ! " (' CEdipus,' Dorset Garden, 1679),
" Death and Devils ! Daggers ! Poison !
Racks and Fire ! " (' Caesar Borgia,' Dorset
Garden, 1680), k' Furies and Hell ! " (' Duke
of Guise,' Theatre Royal, 1683), while the
bombastic heroics contained in it are hardly
to be matched even in other productions of
the same cast. Nero's wild rage in the second
act could, I think, only have been written by
Lee, although Dry den might have run him
close in exaggerated absurdity : —
When I look sad, whole Hecatomb* should fall,
Ha ! who are they? my fretting Blood does rise :
Hands, rest : Fie try to blast him with my Eyes.
Make me Basilitk, but one short hour,
Some GOD, that would be Nero's Emperour.
On reading ' Piso's Conspiracy ' we are
thankful that such remarkable "furious"
declarations are conspicuous by their
absence ! That play, in point of fact, is
written almost completely in more or less
chastened blank verse, which, however, has
been apparently most severely handled by
the printer who set it in type. In Act IV.
Scene iii., for example, a speech of Poppea
appears in this wise : —
I know not, but this Youth does strangely move
My mind ;
His Face, me-thinks, is more Angelical,
Than Earthly.
Oh ! his words invade
My weak'ned Senses, and o'r-come my Heart,
and another, by a Friend of Seneca, in an
even more mangled form : —
To our own Losses do we give these Tears,
That lose thy Love, thy Boundless Knowledge
Lose,
Lose the unpattern'd Sample of thy Vertue,
Lose whatsoe'r may Praise, or Sorrow
Move ;
In all these Losses
and so on for another dozen or so of linesj
This, surely, can be nothing but the some-1
what crude notions of a seventeenth-century
compositor as to the visual " shape " of]
verse !
Overlooking such typographical eccea- y
tricities, however, ' Piso's Conspiracy,' little
read as it seems to be, even by responsible-
critics, is by no means a contemptible pro- -j
duction, and whoever the anonymous
author he stands well on the same plane as-
that of the writer of ' The Tragedy of Nero/ ;
Lee's play irritates us by its loyalty and gods
and kings, all spoken of in capital letters...
His conception of royal excellence has-
marred what otherwise would have pre- .
sented an ideal subject for a Restoration-
blood-tragedy. The anonymous dramatist
has not fallen into this pitfall, but has led,
us into a world of real vice, not vice imagined
merely in exaggerated heroics and swayed
to a bias of the mind. Nor does he lack
those telling lines which, few as they are inv.
number when compared to those of Lee, yet
tell of a considerable power of diction and of^
imagination. The last act is very much
superior to that of ' Nero ' and does not lose
in tone from the fine opening words of the-
Emperor : —
Enough is wept, Poppea, for thy Death,
Enough is bled ; so many Tears of others
Wailing their Losses havewip'd mine away.
Who in the Common Funeral of the world
Can mourn one Death ?
' Piso's Conspiracy ' is not in the British
Museum, but there is a well-preserved copy
in the Malone collection of the Bodleian.
Library (No. 52), where also is that unique
specimen of "The Tragedy of Nero ' (evi-
dently a presentation copy) which contains
what are without doubt the manuscript
corrections and additions of the author
himself. When Malone bought it it was
richly bound in a finely gilt cover ; nowr
unfortunately, it has been added to other
first editions of Lee's plays to make up a
single collected volume. Most of the cor-
rections are merely ones of spelling or
orthography, but on pp. 26 and 29 occur-
two added lines : " Thy honour's lost. I
read it in thy eyes," and " Prettily shruggs
and witty prayers does make," which could
have come from none but the author's own
pen.
Both plays, like so many others of the*
forgotten Restoration tragedies, are well
worth our re-reading, even in our modern-
sophisticated age. Unnatural and artificial
as they often are, they tell of a fertility of
imagination not lost from the earlier days
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
257
triumph for the drama, and, if their
thors equal not Webster or Ford, tc
nation no names more illustrious thar
ese, they have worked in the same studio
th them, have learnt the same high
hguage, have quaffed the same Parnassian
ine, are as representative and as importan
r an understanding of their age as th<
,rlier dramatists were for that of Elizabeth
• of Charles I. In the very midst o
>mbast lie their treasures of beauty
aong the absurdest of their artificialities
ie elements of a strong and a sane humanity
ALLABDYCE NICOLL, M.A.
11, St. Clements, Oxford.
JOHN SYKES,
NELSON'S COXSWAIN.
IE tracing of coxswains in the Naval
uster Books is always a difficult process,
they were chosen irrespective of their
bing on board ; but, as coxswains, had no
icial, or recognised standing; and there
3 no lists of them in the Naval Records.
Though a coxswain was a personal body
bendant of a captain, or admiral, he never
pears amongst the retinue of the latter,
t was rated along with the rest of the
ip's company.
In having come across, in an old Colonial
per,* a very interesting account of the
mbardment of Cadiz on the night of July
1797, by an eye-witness (but whose name
not given), the following description
jrefrom of the devotion of John Sykes for
beloved captain, will be read with interest,
i will bear repeating, as it ought to be
>re generally known.
lohn Sykes, a native of Kerton, Lincoln-
re, joined the Agamemnon as a volunteer
1793, when 23 years of age ; from an A.B.
became ship's corporal July 23, 1793, and
about three years served thereon under
Ison, following him, as his coxswain, to the
ptain.
Vfter the battle of St. Vincent (Feb. 14,
)7) Nelson records that John Sykes and
iers were present on board the Spanish
t rate when " I did receive the swords of
> vanquished Spaniards, which as I
eived, I gave to William Fearney,f one
my barge men, who put them with the
atest sangfroid under his arm."
C.O. 116/1, March 21, 1836 (lodged at the Public
ord Office).
Not to John Sykes, which has been sometimes
meously stated.
From the Captain John Sykes accom
panied Nelson to the Theseus.
On the night of July 3, 1797, Nelson, who
had the command of the inshore squadron,
proceeded with the Thunder bomb, &c., to
bombard the town of Cadiz, but the large
mortar being materially injured, she was
ordered to retire, and the enemy perceiving
this, tried to carry her off, but Nelson
defeated them.
*' The commandant of the Spanish gun-boats, a
gallant fellow, Don Miguel Tryason, singled out
the Admiral's barge, in which we had only ten
men besides my self, the Admiral and Capt. Free-
mantle, and in which was John Sykes, as gallant
a sailor as ever took up sloops from a purser, or
shared his grog with his mess-mates.
" Don Miguel ordered his boat to be placed alon*
side of ours ; and, as you may suppose, we did not
object to the meeting, although she was a powerful
craft, and manned by twenty-six stout looking
chaps. This was a hand to hand business. Don
Miguel led his men bravely ; and to give them the
credit they deserve, they were worthy of such a
gallant commander, and of the honour of being
killed by us.
" Nelson parried a blow which would have saved
lim from being at the Nile, and Freeman tie fought
ike himself, fore and aft, both boats. It was a
desperate struggle, and once we were nearly car-
'ied. John Sykes was close to Nelson on his left
land, and he seemed more concerned for the
Admiral's life than his own : he hardly ever struck
blow, but to save his gallant officer.
" Twice he parried blows which must have
>een fatal to Nelson ; for Sykes was a man whose
coolness gave him full scope for the Science at
Single Stick, and who never knew what fear was,
any more than his Admiral. It was cut. thrust,
ire, and no load again— we had no time for that.
?he Spaniards fought like devils, and seemed
esolved to win from the Admiral the laurel of
lis former Victory : they appeared to know him,
nd directed their principal attack towards the
ffieers.
"Twice had Sykes saved him ; and now he saw
blow descending which would have severed the
ead of Nelson. In that second of thought which
cool man possesses, Sykes saw that he could not
ward the blow with his cutlass ; the situation of
rie Spaniard rendered it impossible. He saw the
anger ; that moment expired, and Nelson would
ave been a corpse: but Sykes saved him — he
iterposed his 9\vn head ! His Commander was so
eloved, that his old follower (for Sykes was with
s in the Captain) sought the death he could not
therwise have averted. We all saw it — we were
witnesses to the gallant deed, and we gave in
revenge one cheer and one tremendous rally.
Eighteen of the Spaniards were killed, and we
boarded and carried her; there not being one man
left on board who was not either dead or wounded.
;' ' Sykes,' said Nelson, as he caught the gallant
fellow in his arms, ' I cannot forget this.' But my
wounded shipmate only looked him in the face, and
smi'ed, as he said, 'Thank God, Sir, you are safe.'
" Your heroes have the best hearts : if gratitude
could have repaid Sykes, Nelson had done it : he
would have made him a lieutenant, but the wound
258
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. v. OCT., 1919.
rendered him for ever unfit to benefit by the powe
and disposition of his Admiral. He died soon after
but was always a little queer here in the head ; anc
no wonder, for the blow would have split the skul
of a negro, or a cocoa-nut, and Sykes was beyom
the help of the noble hero he had saved. This was
no brush. It is very rarely that men are opposec
hand to hand, and sword 'to sword ; and you may
guess how fierce was the fight, when Spaniards
resisted until not a man remained untouchec
amongst them."
From one of the last letters which Nelson
ever wrote with his right hand, and which i.<
now preserved in the Museum of the Public
Record Office,
taken : —
the following extract is
" Theseus, July 4, 1797.
I feel particularly indebted for the successful
termination of this contest to the gallantry of
Capts. Eraser and Miller, the former of whom
accompanied me in my barge, and to my coxswain
John Sykes who, in defending My Person, is most
severely wounded, as was Capt. Freeman tie slightly
"
in the attack
HORATIO NELSON.
John Sykes was discharged from the
Theseus on Oct. 24 1797, to the Andro-
mache on promotion to a gunner, and died
abroad on May 1 1798, of wounds received
by the bursting of a gnn.
'Letters of administration were granted to
his mother Hannah Huddlestone, (sworn
under 300Z.).
John Sykes had a brother, Robinson
Sykes, who is said to have been coxswain
to some captain or admiral at the battle of
St. Vincent. I should be glad if any of
your readers could kindly tell me the name
of any ship upon which he served.
E. H. FAIRBROTHER.
COWPER'S 'SEPHUS.'
MANY years ago (1 S. xi. 343) there appeared
a query, so far unanswered, on the following
points : " Who was Joseph Hill's father ?
Who was his wife ? Did they leave children?
What became of them ? When did he die
and where was he interred ? " As a result
of recent researches which I have been
making I am able not only to answer these
questions, but also to supply much other
interesting information about this stanch
and unassuming friend who is so scantily
treated by Cowper's biographers.
Joseph Hill was born on Dec. 27, 1733
(O.S.), at Took's Court, Cursitor Street,
Chancery Lane, the son of Francis and
Theodosia Hill, and was baptized on Jan. 18
following at St. Andrew's, Holborn. Francis
Hill, an attorney by profession, was a
gentleman of good family and estate, related
Hill to Sir Joseph Jekyll, Master of the-
Rolls, whose secretary he became. Try-
phena Hill was the daughter of Thomas
Sanders of Ireton, co. Derby, a colonel in_
Cromwell's army. She married first Richard,
Hill (d. 1650), and in 1653 became the
second wife of John Jekyll (1611-90), and
bore him several children, the youngest of
whom rose to be Master of the Rolls.
Francis Hill, who was thus a half-nephew
of the judge, married Theodosia Sedgwickf
sister of Robert Sedgwick (d. 1744), purveyor
to the royal stables at Charing Cross. He;
died in 1741, leaving his wife (d. 1784) and
three infant children, Joseph, Frances, and
Theodosia, whose friendship with Cowper
has preserved them from oblivion. Cowper's
Uncle Ashley was appointed one of the*
trustees of his will, and it was through
Ashley and probably at his house that
Cowper and Joseph became acquainted.
Despite the fact that Cowper in one of his
letters addresses Hill as an old member of
the Nonsense Club it is clear from a letter
written by Hill to Hayley in 1802— a copy of
which is in my possession — and from the
absence of his name in the school admission*
ists between the years 1740 and 1752 that
le was not at Westminster. The place of
nis education I have not been able to>
discover.
Hill was bred early to the law. While-
/owper was giggling and making giggle with
lis cousins of Southampton Row. Hill was
erving under articles of clerkship to Mr.
Robert Chester of the Six Clerks' Office in
Chancery Lane. In due course he qualified
as a solicitor and attorney, and also became
one of the Sixty or Sworn Clerks in Chancery.
Cowper's prediction that his friend would
have a crowded office was soon realized.
He rapidly acquired a flourishing and
aristocratic practice, which numbered in its
clientele several members of the nobility.
Numerous tokens reached him of the esteem
felt for his services — one of his clients, the-
Hon. Mary Leigh, leaving him the princely
legacy of 10,OOOZ. as a mark of her gratitude.
In 1778, upon Thurlow's elevation to the
"Woolsack, Hill was created Secretary of
Lunatics, a class of unfortunates over whom
the Crown, through the Lord Chancellor,
exercizes a paternal jurisdiction. Indirectly
he owed the appointment to Cowper, for it
was the latter who had introduced him to the
future Chancellor in the Southampton Row
days.
Hill, cockney though
he was, shared'
'owper' s love for rural sights and sounds,
through his paternal grandmother ^ryphena j In middle life he purchased an estate at
J £ V. OCT., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
259
irgrave and built himself a house beside
> Thames, where he entertained Lady
sketh, and would have entertained her
isin if that cousin could have been
iuced to stir from Olney.
Sill died on April 28, 1811, at his London
ise in New Burlington Street, and was
ried in Wargrave Church. A memorial
>let ornamented by Nollekens was placed
the chancel bearing the following in-
iption. composed by his friend Joseph
qrll : —
To the memory of Joseph Hill, Esqr., of War-
ve Hill, who died 28 April, 1811, aged 77, great
•hew of Sir Joseph Jekyll, Kt., Master of the
Us. His long practice in the profession of the
v was marked with integrity and talent, his
vate life with every social and domestic virtue.
w his remains are deposited those of Sarah, his
low, \vho closed a life of piety and benevolence
October the llth, 1824, aged 82 years."
.happily the memorial was destroyed in
) fire which wrecked the church in 1914.
By this his only wife Sarah (b. 1742, the
aghter of John Mathews of Wargrave),
whom he was married in August, 1771,
il had no issue. Unknown to Cowper,
:ept by correspondence, Mrs. Hill, like
• husband, was assiduous in attention to
s poet's wants and comforts, including his
il-known taste for fish.
Fhe friend and confidant of Lady Hesketh
1 Theodora, Mrs. Hill was the lady en-
sted with the packet of Cowper' s early
>ms by her whose love had inspired and
served them: —
fer through tedious years of doubt and pain,
ixed in her choice and faithful but in vain.
)n the death of Theodora and of Mrs.
1, within a short time of one another, the
;ms were handed to James Croft, one of
former's executors, who published them
the following year, 1825.
"he Wargrave property, together with the
S. letters from Cowper to Hill, passed
>r Mrs. Hill's death to Joseph Jekyll, the
I -known wit, whose cousin, the Rev.
eph Jekyll Rye, was an occasional
-espondent of the poet's. The letters
© subsequently given by Jekyll's grandson
the late Canon Cowper Johnson, Rector
"
have not seen any portrait of Hill. We
•n from Lady Hesketh that he was a
.e man and from his friend that, like
yers in general, he escaped corpulency.
lived for some years with his mother and
ers at Cook's Court, Carey Street, where
rper first addressed him. In 1780 he was
ag in Great Queen Street, Lincoln's Inn
Ids, whence he removed about 1793 to
Saville Row. From there he moved shortly
before his death to New Burlington Street
adjoining.
For the inscription on the memorial
tablet I have to thank Sir Herbert Jekyll,
who has also most kindly given me much
valuable information concerning Hill's pedi-
gree. WILFRID HOOPER.
Redhill.
STATUES AND MEMORIALS IN THE
BRITISH ISLES.
(See 10 S. xi., xii. ; 11 S. i.-xii ; 12 S.
i.-iv. passim ; v. 89. 145.)
FOR many years I had the pleasure of
assisting MR. PAGE with this series ; the
following notes are supplementary to those
published by my friend : —
ROYAL PERSONAGES.
Alfred.— Church of St. Nicholas, Cole
Abbey (11 S. iv. 184). There were also in
the gardens of old Carlton House statues by
Rysbrach of Alfred and the Black Prince ;
another statue of Alfred, by Rossi, in the
Inner Temple Hall is now stored away.
William I. — St. Leonards, in enclosure
opposite American Palace Pier, oblong Flab
with inscription : " Tradition says that
William the Conqueror landed at Bulver-
hythe and dined on this stone."
Henry III. and Edward III.— Statues on
exterior of Public Record Office, London.
Edward I. and Edward III.— Inner Temple
Hall, by Rossi, now stored away ; statues by
Richard Garbe, on exterior of National
Provincial Bank, High Holborn.
Edward III. and Philippa.— People's
Palace, Mile End Road. Marble statues by
Edward Wyon, circa 1870, formerly in
Drapers' Hall.
Henry VI. — Eton College Ante Chapel,
white marble statue by Bacon, erected 1786,
a fellow of the college, the Rev. E. Betham,
having in 1783 bequeathed 600Z. for this
purpose.
Henry VIII. — St. Bartholomew's Hospital,
London, in niche over west gateway,
culptor unknown, erected 1702.
Edward VI. — In the old Guildhall Chapel,
in canopied niches on the west front were
stone statues of Edward VI., Charles I.,
and Henrietta Maria ; they are now in the
Guildhall Museum. The statue of Edward,
formerly in niche in Newgate Street, facing
the door of the counting-house of Christ's
Hospital, is now at the south end of one of
the school buildings at West Horsham,
260
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 8. V. OCT., 1919.
Over the Bridge Street entrance of Bridewell
Prison was a head of Edward sculptured on
the keystone of the arch. According to
Dickens' s ' Dictionary of London,' 1880.
p. 251, there was another statue of
Edward VI. in St. Bartholomew's Hospital.
Elizabeth. — Statue on exterior of Hotel
Russell, London. There were numerous
memorials to Elizabeth in London, in-
cluding those in St. Mildred's Church,
Bread Street ; St. Mary Magdalen, Old Fish
Street ; St. Martin Ongar ; St. Michael,
Wood Street ; St. Pancras, Soper Lane ;
St. Peter, Paul's Wharf; St. Stephen,
Coleman Street ; St. Thomas the Apostle ;
Bridewell Precinct; St. Olave's, Southwark;
All Hallows the Less ; All Hallows the
Great ; St. Mary Overy ; St. Mildred's
Church, Poultry ; St. Lawrence Jewry ; and
St. Mary Staining. There are busts at
Nicholson's Wharf and St. Olave's Grammar
School, Bermondsey (over doorway of
central tower), and at the " Queen's Head,"
St. John's Lane, Clerkenwell (1595). For
inscriptions, &c., consult ' Anglise Metro-
polis,' 1690 ;' N. & Q.,' 1 S. iv. 231 ; Punch
Oct. 25, 1916 ; Archceologia Cambrensis,
N.S. 1 (1850), pp. 194-9; ' Vetusta Monu-
menta,1 iii. pp. 1-7. Particulars are desired
of the statue in Cumnar Church.
James I. — On the western facade of Old
St. Paul's Cathedral were statues of James
and Charles I., removed during the Common-
wealth ; they are shown in Hollar's view.
In Clothworkers' Hall are statues of James
and Charles, richly gilt. Aldersgate had a
figure of James in high relief over the centre
arch, and another figure of the king in his
royal robes on the south side ; another
statue was on Aldgate. In the Council
Chamber of the Tower is a bust erected in
1608 by Sir William Wade. See also
1 S. i. 43.
Charles I.— The statue at Charing Cross
has been the subject of many poems,
including one by Waller and one in the
Harleian MSS. 7315 ; in the London Museum
is a medal with a view of the statue. In the
first half of the seventeenth century statues
of Charles and Henrietta Maria stood in
Great Queen Street ; they were removed in
1657. There are busts of Charles in Barber-
Surgeons' Hall, London Museum ; Victoria
and Albert Museum (by Le Soeur, signed and
dated 1631). In Windsor Castle is a
painting of Charles from three points of
view, painted for Bernini, the sculptor of
the bust destroyed by fire in 1698. (See
also 1 S. ii. 54; iii. 260.) In 1678 Wren
prepared designs for a mausoleum to
Charles, for which Parliament voted 70,OOOL
This memorial was never erected, but the*
designs still exist in All Souls' College^.
Oxford.
Charles II. — Royal Exchange. Poem by~
P. K. in ' Flosculum Poeticum,' 1684.
Stocks Market (Gent. Mag., xlix., 1779,,
p. 270 ; Dickensian, 1916, pp. 50 and 76 ; and
' Book of Days,' ii. 485). Guildhall Museum,.,
stone statue from facade of old College o£
Physicians, Warwick Lane. Christ's Hos-
pital, West Horsham, in niche outside north
entrance to " Big School," dated 1672*
removed from the school in London. .
Chelsea Hospital, bronze statue in Roman,
costume, by Grinling Gibbons, erected.,
circa 1692, the gift of Tobias Rustat. Old
Town Hall, Southwark, statue on front off
building dated 1686 ; in 1793 set up in.
Three Crown Court, afterwards in a garden^
in New Kent Road. The statues of Charles i
and James II., by William De KeysarJ
formerly in niches on front of the TholselJ
Dublin (see Malton's view), are now iix the|
crypt of Christ Church Cathedral. There isj
a marble bust of Charles II. by Honore Pelle^
in the Victoria and Albert Museum, signed]
and dated 1684 ; it was intended to erect aJ
statue of Charles instead of the present vaser
of flames on the Monument. See alsol
1 S. i. 76; 11 S. xi. 468.
James II. — St. James's Park (see Proc. Soc.^
Antiq., 2 S. xix. 218-20). National Galleryrl
of Ireland, bronze equestrian statuette, with>j
inscription on girth of horse : " Baxter
taught Wyck Drew Larson Embost & Cast
it [a date illegible]." Bronze statue formerly
on the Sandhill, Newcastle (Arch. JEliana,^
ii. 260-4). J. ARDAGH.
35 Church Road, Drumcondra, Dublin,
(To be continued.)-'
EAST HATLEY, co. CAMBRIDGE, BRASSES. —
In Transactions of the Monumental Brass
Society, vol. iii. p. 28, the above brasses are-
fully described, as in Cole's MSS.y although,
the knight, the iascription plate, and the-
lower sinister shield are now missing. Cole
attributes these brasses, from the coats
given, to Roger Docwra and his wife*
Elizabeth, daughter of Edward Brockett off
Brockett Hall, co. Herts. I have seen the-
remains of the brasses, namely, the lady and
two shields (sacl to relate they are used for a.
standing for the church coalbox), and havfr
obtained rubbings. There is little doubt in-
my own mind that Cole's supposition i»-
incorrect. Roger, above, was great-grand-
father of Sir Thomas Docwra, Lord Prior
12 S. V. OCT., 1919. ]
NOTES AND QQERIES.
261
f St. John of Jerusalem (1501), until
is death in 1527. The dress of the lady
epieted in the brass is undoubtedly of
'udor period .and not late fourteenth or
irly fifteenth century, which would be the
ate of Elizabeth Brockett's death.
James Bocwra, elder brother of Sir
'homas the Prior, married Catherine, daughter
f John Haseldon of Murdon, co. Cambridge,
'he arms -of Haseldon are: Arg., a cross
ory sable, and those of Brockett being
>r, a cross flory sable ; hence the confusion.
&ut the lady's dress is the real clue to date.
Why James and his wife were buried at
last Hatley is a mystery. The family were
t that time seated in and around Bradkirke
Kitchin), but John, the son and heir of
ames, married Ann, daughter of Thomas
t. George of Hatley St. George, the next
arish to East Hatley.
J. DOCWRA. ROGERS.
Manor House, Ashmansworth, nr. Newbury.
CAPT. WILXJAM CONSIDINE, 69TH REGI-
[BNT. — A memorial tablet to this officer in
he cloisters of the cathedral here has
Bcently fallen to the ground and is smashed
eyond repair. I am writing in the hope
hat some descendant or friend of the family
lay see my note and come forward and
eplace the tablet. If this be not done then
he memory of a good and gallant soldier
rill die out as far as this place is concerned,
rhich is much to be deprecated.
I will gladly answer any inquiries.
JOSEPH C. BRIDGE.
Chester.
PIANO LEGS IN TROUSERS. — A corre-
pondent (8 S. iv. 463-4, s.v. ' " Electrocute "
•r " Electroeuss " ') writes : " Americans
tave found .... indecency in the legs of a
>iano."
Whether Capt. Marryat was the first to
mblish this curious conceit I do not know.
le told of it eighty years ago in his ' Diary in
America, with Remarks on its Institutions.'
am quoting from the Paris (Galignani's)
dition, 1839, first part, pp. 203-4. He tells
LOW he was escorting a young lady at Niagara
i^alls. Standing on a rock, she slipped down,
md hurt herself. She had in fact grazed
ler shin. Marryat said : " Did you hurt
rour leg much ? " She turned from him
ividently shocked or offended. He begged
o know what was the reason of her dis-
deasure : —
" After some hesitation, she said that as she
:new me well, she would tell me that the word leg
ras never mentioned before ladies. I apologized
or my want of refinement, which was attri-
mtable to my having been accustomed only to
English society, and added, that as such articles
must occasionally be referred to, even in the most
polite circles in America, perhaps she would inform
me by what name I might mention them without
shocking the company. Her reply was, that the
word limb was used; ' nay,' continued she, '1 am
not so particular as some people are, for I know
those who always say limb of a table, or limb of a
piano-forte.' "
Marryat, in illustration of the above, writes
of an incident of a few months later : —
"I was requested by a lady to escort her to a
seminary for young ladies, and on being ushered
into the reception room, conceive my astonishment
at beholding a square piano-forte with four limbs.
However, that the ladies who visited their
daughters, might feel in its full force the extreme
delicacy of the mistress of the establishment, and
her care to preserve in their utmost purity the
ideas of the young ladies under her charge, she had
dressed all these four limbs in modest ^ little
trousers, with frills at the bottom of them."
Marryat's visit to America began May 4>
1837, and covered nearly two years.
ROBERT PIERPOINT.
STEPNEY FOR THE OCEAN-BORN. — Readers
know that down to early Victorian times
the belief was general in the Port of London
that the English ocean-born, and sailors
having no traceable local " settlement "
under the old Poor Law system, were
commonly registered as chargeable to the
maritime parish of Stepney ; and that
" Bumbles " of a season of acute and
general distress, anxious to be rid of a
burden, quietly rid themselves of this
responsibility without recourse to the High
Courts of Law and Equity. It is now
announced that
" Among the passengers landed the other day
from the Pacific liner Oriana was a little girl who
was born on the Orduna, in South American
waters, just before the War broke out, is a British
subject, registered at Stepney, although of foreign
parentage."
Me.
A SPURIOUS CHARTER OF THE CONQUEROR.
— In the Gloucester Cartulary No. 316
purports to be a copy of a charter granted
by the Conqueror in 1086, confirming to
St. Peter's of Gloucester the lands which
Archbishop Thomas (of York) formerly
held of the abbey, together with the gifts
of various donors. (' Hist, et Cart. S. Petri
Glouc.,' Rolls Series, i. 334.) The editor
remarks that the cartulary heading ' De
hyda in Aspertone,' " is quite inapplicable
to the charter to which it is prefixed " ; but
he does not hint at any doubts of the charter
itself, which opens with a suspicious dating
clause : " Anno Incarnationis Domini mille-
simo octogesimo sexto, ego VTillelmus," &c.
262
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 S. V. OCT., 1919.
On the other hand, Mr. H. W. C. Davis,
who summarises the charter in his in-
valuable calendar (' Regesta Regum Anglo-
DsTormannorum,' No. 219), observes : —
" The form is suspicious, and resembles that
of a preceding charter (No. 167). These lands
of Abp. Thomas are entered under his name in
' D.B.,' i. 1646. This charter should be com-
pared with a spurious confirmation, attributed
to Stephen and dated 1138 (' Cart.,' i. 122 \rectins
222])."
But Mr. Davis does not definitely reject
the charter, nor mark it with the asterisk
with which he distinguishes spurious
charters.
There can be no doubt that the alleged
charter is a concoction — a forgery if there
were a pseudo-original. Amongst the gifts
confirmed are those of Littleton by Hugh
de Port, Plymtree by Odo Fitz " Hamelin "
(rectius Gamelin), the mill at Fromelode by
Winebaud de Ballon, and Clifford by Roger
de Busli : gifts which, according to the
monks' own list of donations, were made in
1090, 1095, 1126, and 1099 respectively.
(' Hist, et Cart. S.P. de Glouc.,' i. 93, 74,
77, 68.)
As to Winebaud de Ballon, Dr. J. H.
Round thinks that he and his brother
Hamelin did not even come to England
until the reign of William II., who gave
Hamelin his lands (' Studies in Peerage and
Family History,' p. 190) ; as Hamelin him-
self states in a charter (' Cal. Docts. France '
No. 1045).
Again, the charter confirms Westwood as
given by Walter de Gloucester for the soul
iof his father ; but ' Domesday ' records that
bt was given by Durand for the soul of his
Prother Roger (Walter's father) : " S'c's
Detrus de Glowec' ten' Westuode
Durand' ded' seed's?, p' a-nirna fr'is sui
Rogerii " (i. 181). G. H. WHITE.
23 Weighton Road, Anerley.
*' UP " AND " DOWN " : THEIR BARBAROUS
MISUSE. — Looking over some back numbers
of ' N. & Q ' I find at 10 S, v. 245, the heading
" Up " : its Barbarous Misuse.' Before
the 'N.E.D' reaches the letter "U" may
one be permitted a protest against the
constant arid meaningless addition of this
word in everyday life ?
A new. route will " link up " all the cross
roads, &c. ; the train " slowed up " ; one is
invited to have " a brush up," &c.
May I also request permission to remark
on the equally absurd use of the word
" down " as found on three consecutive
days, Oct. 13, 14, 15, 1917, in The Daily
News (2) and The Observer. The business
was " closed down " ; I shall have to " close*
down " my business ; I am sorry to say
that, though the rain ceased during the*
morning and the sun shone awhile, t her
weather has again " closed down." Mr.
• stated that he had the most valuable-
stallions in England, and if this man were-
taken he must " close down " his stud.
A Sunday paper warns us that unless the-
heavy entertainment tax is remitted 4,000-
out of the 7,000 theatres in this country
may have to " close down."
I think the genesis of the expression is
this. When there were strikes at the coal*
mines, and the masters refused to concede-
the men's demands, it was said the shafts
were " shut down," i.e., the covering of the-
shaft was put on, thus preventing ingress, j
Then, not to use the same word too often,. ,
" closed " was used instead of shut.
A. D. JONES.
Oxford.
MARRIAGES. — It has occurred to me that if J
your readers interested in genealogy com- j
piled a list of marriages from unpublished !
notes in their possession, the information.!
might be very useful to those who are com-1
piling pedigrees. The following names are-
taken from notes in my possession. If any
of your readers can supply the names of t he-
parents or children thereof I should be glad.
Elizabeth Adamson ("a pupil of John Knox, >
1555")=^ James Barren of Kinnaird.
John Anderson = Helen Simpson, July 23, 1824.
James Simpson^ Nell Forrester, about 1774.
James Simpson = Isabella Dickson, Nov. 26, 1790-
Thomas Baillie (of Lamington !) = Gordon,
1720-1760.
Samuel Dickson = Agnes, dau. of Thomas Baillie,,
April 19, 1773.
Robert Anderson (of Longhough ton ?)= Alice-
Bowden, July 26. 1782.
George Anderson (born July 19, 1829)= Jane-
Bulman, 1852.
Anne Simpson = John Douglas of Cupar, Fife,,
about 1815..
Samuel (?) Dickson (fur merchant of Edinburgh*
and St. Petersburg, died 1798, aged 94)- ?
JAS. SETON-ANDERSON.
4 Temple Street, Brighton.
(To be continued.)
SWIFT AND WALPOLE. — Mr. C. E. Pearce*
in his ' Polly Peachum and the Beggar's
Opera,' 1913, discussing the intellectual
influences on Gay when in the throes of
waiting his play, remarks at p. 2 : —
"Swift had come to England in the spring of
1726 chiefly with the object of representing to
Sir Robert Walpole the distressed state of
Ireland, and also, with a view of obtaining his
own preferment. He failed in the first, Walpole
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
263
nistrusting the motives of the intercessor, and
,s for the second, it is very doubtful whether the
)ean's proud, imperious spirit permitted him to
sk favours."
If Mr. Pearce refers to Swift's reluctance
0 asking favours generally, then his in-
erence is scarcely justified by facts, for it is
lear from the Calendar of MSS. of the
Marquis of Bath (Hist. MSS. Com., 1904,
^ol. i. p. 228) that Swift personally sought
idvancement at the hands of Walpole's
)redecessor. To the Earl of Oxford he
vrote on Jan. 5, 1713 : —
"1 most humbly take leave to inform your
^ordship that the Dean of Wells died this morning
it one o'clock. I entirely submit my poor fortunes
)0 your Lordship."
J. PAUL DE CASTRO.
1 Essex Court, Temple.
IRA F. ALDRIDGE, THE AFRICAN Roscius.
—In addition to what has already appeared
it 4 S. x. 35, 132, 373, and in Boase's'
1 Modern English Biography,' I can now
present some fresh facts concerning this
remarkable man and his family. Born in
1804 in Maryland of pure African parentage,
after finishing his education at Glasgow
University, he eventually adopted the stage
as a profession. It was not, however, until
he had appeared in ' Othello,' ' Titus
Aixdronicus,' and certain other plays, comic
as well as tragic, that his dramatic talent
was established, and that even in the eyes
of such good judges as J. W. Wallack, Miss
O'Neill, and Sheridan Knowles.
His first wife must have been a white
woman to judge from the complexion of his
eldest son, whom I knew well in the sixties,
though he was my senior at school by some
years. The wife of the present Mayor of
Canterbury, Dr. R. A. Bremner, who subse-
quently knew the family personally, has
kindly informed me that the actor's second
wife was a Swedish beauty of noble birth
who went by the name of Baroness Aldridge.
This second marriage took place, I believe,
about 1860, during the course of his pro-
fessional tour through Belgium, Germany,
Sweden, Russia, and Austria. After his
death in 1867 Madame Aldridge lived in
retirement at Aneiiey with her three children ;
but having the misfortune to lose most of her
money she died in very straitened circum-
stances. Her only son is also dead, but
the two daughters, whose dark faces con-
trasted strangely with their mother's fair
complexion, being accomplished singers and
musicians, took to the stage. I do not know
what became of the elder son, though I can
recall his acting very effectively in an
amateur representation of ' Box and Cox/
The father is credited with having played
Aaron in ' Titus Andronicus ' for six nights
at the Britannia Theatre in March, 1852y
that being the last occasion of the play's
production in England. N. W. HILL.
WE must request correspondents desiring in-
formation on family matters of only private interest
to affix their names and addresses to their queries,
in order that answers may be sent to them direct.
WILLIAM PEER: THE ALLEGED ACTOR.—
The first and last mention of this actor
occurs in No. 82 of The Guardian, published
on June 15, 1713. In this essay Steele
speaks of his
" concern for the death of Mr. William Peer of the
Theatre-royal, who was an actor at the Restoration
and took 'his theatrical degree with Better-ton,
Kynaston and Harris," [and] "distinguished him-
self particularly in two characters, which no man
could ever touch but himself."
These were the speaker of the three -line
prologue to the play in ' Hamlet,' III. ii., and
the apothecary in ' Caius Marius,' which was
' Romeo and Juliet ' adapted by Otway to
the Restoration stage. Steele proceeds to
describe and analyse Peer's excellence m
these two very small parts, which, he says
won " universal applause," and " more
reputation than those who speak the length
of a Puritan's sermon every night will ever
attain to." He also held the post of
property-man, and at last became so
prosperous that " in the seventieth year of
his age he grew fat," and so was unfitted for
the only two parts he could play ; and this
calamity hastened his death.
On the strength of Steele' s enconium Peer
has been admitted to that Pantheon the
' D.N.B.,' yet it seems doubtful whether he
ever existed. His career must have been a
long one if he began to act at the Restoration
and lived till 1713 ; and if he won such
" reputation " and " great fame " as Steele
attributes to him by these two parts it is
strange that a man so well versed in the
history of the stage as the late Joseph
Knight, who wrote the notice of him in the
' D.N.B.,' could not find so much as a single
mention of his name in all the voluminous
theatrical literature of this long period, apart
from this one essay written after his death.
Moreover, the essay itself is written in a
humorous strain, scarcely suited to the
obituary even of a minor or minimus actor.
264
NOTES AND QUERIES-
[12 S. V. OCT., 1919.
These facts, together with the recollection o
the elaborate hoax which Swift had playe
upon Partridge the astrologer a few year
before, make one a little suspicious. An<
although, if Peer was not a real person, th
circumstances of the two jests would not be
exactly parallel, it seems possible, to say the
least, that the whole essay is a joke of some
kind, the key to which is now lost.
Can any reader throw further light on thi
subject, or adduce any evidence, independen
of Steele's essay, that Peer really existed ?
It may be worth while to add that Steele's
statement that no one but Peer " could ever
touch " the two parts mentioned is noi
literally true, for Gibber records in hi
'Apology ' (chap, ix.) that Richard Estcourt
spoke the prologue in the play scene wher
'Hamlet' was acted at Drury Lane in 1707
GORDON CBOSSE.
Oxford and Cambridge Club, Pall Mall, S.W.I.
CHARLES MORRIS OF PORTMAN SQUARE. —
About the middle of last century Charle
Morris of Portman Square was a frequent
visitor and great benefactor to Malvern.
He built schools, still known as the " Morris
Schools," and large tanks capable of holding
many gallons of water for a much-needed
water supply, and performed many other
good deeds. Unfortunately, no record of
him remains beyond these bare facts. Can
any of your readers supply the dates of his
birth and death, and details of his life, or
present or lend a portrait of him to this
library ? My committee are most anxious
to make our local collection as complete as
possible and will be grateful for any help
that can be given.
F. C. MORGAN, Librarian.
Public Library, Graham Road, Malvern. .i»»
CONGEWOI. — Rolf Boldrewood in his hovel
' Modern Buccaneer,' speaking of a marine
vista outside of Sydney, remarks : " The
sea is here much as I remember when a boy I
used to get ' congewoi ' for bait off those
very rocks." What are we to understand
by the term ? ANEURIN WILLIAMS.
Menai View, North Road, Carnarvon.
AMERICAN CHURCH OF ENGLAND BISHOPS.
— Can any reader furnish us with the name
of a work giving the succession of the
bishops of the Church of England in the
United States of America, and their mis-
sionary bishops, or furnish me with a copy ?
What is chiefly wanted is full name, degree,
date, and place of consecration, and date
and place of death. [ J. W. F.
GILBERT WHITE: PORTRAIT OF. — At 1 S.
viii. 304 (1853) Mr. A. Holt-White wrote as
follows : —
" Oriel College, of which Gilbert White was for
more than fifty years a Fellow, some years since
offered to have a portrait painted of him for their
hall. An inquiry was then made of all the mem-
bers of his family, but no portrait of any descrip-
tion could be found. I have heard my father say
that Gilbert White was much pressed by his
brother Thomas (my grandfather), to have his por-
trait painted, and that he talked of it, but it was
never done."
This passage is quoted in Jardine's edition
of 1853 of 'White's Natural History and
Antiquities of Selborne.'
In 1913 an alleged portrait of the natural-
ist, which had been purchased in the Cattle-
Market, was exhibited at a meeting of the
Selborne Society, and it was understood that
the owner was endeavouring to trace the
early history of the portrait.
Can any of your readers give information
as to what was done in the matter, whether
the portrait was duly authenticated, or it
was proved to have been a forgery ?
EDWARD A. MARTIN.
The Gilbert White Fellowship,
285, Holmesdale Road, South Norwood, S.E.
COORG STATE : STRANGE TALE OF A
PRINCESS. — Dr. Vincent Smith, in his
recently published ' Oxford History of
India,' p. 660 note, writes : —
"The princess having been brought up as a
Christian by her father's desire, was baptized by
he name of Victoria in 1852, the Queen being her
godmother. The royal favour encouraged the
laja to claim seven lakhs of rupees from the East
Tndia Company, but he lost his suit after litigation
asting several years. His daughter married
Colonel C., and had a child by him The union
vas unhappy, and she died in 1864. Some time
ater visitors in a cab called at the Oriental Club,
lanover Square, for Colonel C., who drove off with
hem, saying he would return shortly. He was
lever seen again. The child also disappeared.
Soth must have been secretly murdered and buried
omewhere in London. The story of the dis-
.ppearance of Colonel C. was related by his son to
he author. The Raja died before his daughter,
,nd was buried in Kensal Green cemetery."
}an any one give any further detail of this
trange story, or refer to any contemporary
iterature on the subject ? EMERITUS.
MORE OR MOORE. — The family of More or
foore of Milton Place, Egham, Surrey, were
ettled in Antwerp during the reign of Eliza-
eth. It has been said that they were con-
ected with the Mores of Loseley, Surrey,
ut I have never found the slightest evidence
a support of this statement. Is anything
nown of the origin of the Egham family ?
FREDERIC TURNER.
12 S. V. OCT., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
265
REFERENCES TO WORKS WANTED. — It is
fcated at p. 18 of Reseller's ' Geschichte der
^ational-Oekonomik in Deutschland ' that
he treatise of Henricus de Hassia (known as
ienry Langenstein), entitled ' Tractasu de
ontractibus et de Origine Censuam,' and
lie treatise of Henricus de Hoyta entitled
Tractatus de Contractibus sc. Redditibus
re to be found in the fourth volume oi
Person's ' Tractatus Diversi.' I cannot find
ny reference to this work of Gerson's in any
brary catalogue that I have consulted,
an any of your readers inform me where I
can find copies of these two treatises ?
GEORGE O'BRIEN.
40 Northumberland Road, Dublin.
NUNCUPATIVE WILLS. — In the time of
Milton was it necessary to the validity of a
nuncupative will — that is, a will made by
word of mouth — that it should be made
when the testator was in extremis ? or could
it be validly made when the testator was in
good health ? No weight can be given to
what Wartoi) (as quoted in Todd's Milton,
3rd edn., 1826, vol. i., pp. 264, 289) says on
th s subject ; it is evident that Warton's
knowledge was very imperfect.
AEGERIA.
REDE-BIRDS. — Some years ago a query
appeared in ' N. & Q.' as to what were
rede-birds, and no satisfactory answer was
given. Can any reader say now what are
rede-birds ? W. D. R.
J. SYMMONS OF PADDINGTON HOUSE. — Is
anything known of this excellent collector of
topographical prints and drawings, who
apparently flourished at the end of the
eighteenth century ? Messrs. Leigh &
Sotheby had prepared for sale on Friday,
Dec. 11, 1795, and three following days
; Sunday excepted) an exceptionally in-
teresting collection of topographical prints
md drawings in England and Wales. A
VIS. endorsement on the catalogue before me
s to the effect that this, the most extensive
collection ever offered to public sale, was
sold by private contract, the day before the
luction was to have commenced, to Mr.
Simmons of Paddington. Presumably the
jurchaser wished to secure certain prints for
lis own collections, but a few years later —
ictually on Monday, April 23, 1804, and five
'pllowing days — Mr. King sold by auction a
similar, almost identical, collection of up-
vards of 10,000 topographical prints and
Irawings, and in the catalogue before me, in
iddition to the names of purchasers and
prices realised, a MS. note is added identify-
ing the same owner, and referring to the
preceding sale.
I would like to write at length of the
interest of this collection. As usual the
various lots, although large, are all too
briefly detailed, but it is possible to notice : —
Lot 80. "Aggas (Ralphe) original map of
London in the time of Elizabeth, sup-
posed to be the only one remaining."
Bought by Dodd £12 12 0
This is the Guildhall Copy.
Lot 81. " Vertue's copy of the above, and
another copy done 1738." Bought by
Dodd ... ... £109
Lot 58. The original Drawing from which
the great West Window of the abbey
was made. N.B. This drawing was
Bishop Atterbury's, at whose expence
the window was made. Bought by I.
Smith £1 15 0
Lot 20. Fourteen Prints and Drawings
from Kentish Town to Newington
Butts, including a Ground Plot of
Kilburn Abbey. Bought by Dodds £110
This collector also formed a library, which
apparently was sold in 1828. In ' The
Crypt,' vol. ii. p. 143, in his 'Letters from
London,' Periphes (? Rev. Peter Hall)
writes : —
" Symmonds, of Paddington Green is gone to the
auctioneer's ; his books come on to-morrow and
12 following days ; 40,000 volumes, of very mixed
character. The Cataloguing by Phillips of Bond
Street is particularly curious : ' Elzevirianis ;
Classics ; Plantin's ; Gronovius, &c.' eight and ten
in a lot."
A still further clue to the identity of this
collector is afforded by the title of a small
8vo volume published 1797 : " Hortus
Paddingtonensis, or a catalogue of Plants
cultivated in the Garden of J. Symmons Esq.
Paddington House, by W. Salisbury."
ALECK ABRAHAMS.
COURT OF ST. JAMES. — When was England,
in diplomacy, first known as the Court of
St. James ? I believe it was after the
burning of Whitehall, at the end of the
seventeenth century. What is the first
recorded document in which the term
appears ? J. LANDFEAR LUCAS.
Glendora, Hindhead, Surrey.
CONCANNON FAMILY. — Can any one give
any details of, or state the relationship (if
any) between the following : —
1. George Concannon, app. Aug. 30,
1736, one of the three lieutenants of Capt.
Samuel Cunningham's Independent Com-
pany of Foot at Jamaica.
2. Matthew Concanen, author of several
poems, Attorney -General of Jamaica, who
m. Shirley, only sister of Robert Nedham,
266
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 8. 7. OCT., 1919.
M.P. (son, of the Robert Nedham mentioned
12 S. v. 176), but died s.p. Jan. 22, 1749.
3. Lucius Concannon, an Irishman, m.
May 10, 1790, Miss Richmond, had his
portrait painted by Hoppner, R.A., and was
M.P. Winchelsea, 1820, till his death in
January, 1823. W. R. WILLIAMS.
" AS DEAD AS A DOOR-NAIL." — What is th(
origin of this expression ? Dickens con
sidered " a coffin-nail as the deadest piece o
ironmongery in the trade."
J. ARDAGH.
FLEET PRISON RECORDS. — An ancestor
of mine, Thomas Free, was committed to
the Fleet for non-payment of tithe in 1715
Are the records of the prison available ?
RICHARD FREE.
St. Clement's Vicarage, Fulham, S.W.
" GRAM " IN PLACE-NAMES. — What is the
meaning of the syllable common to the
following place-names : Kilgram (near Jer-
vaulx Abbey), Angram (Nidderdale), Legram
(Bradforddale), Leagram (Mid-Lanes.) ? Is
there not a place Pegram also ? Where is
it ? J. H. R.
RICHARD WARNFORD, WINCHESTER
SCHOLAR. — He entered Winchester College
in 1560, aged 14, from Sevenhampton, and
became Fellow of New College, Oxford, in
1565. He is probably to be identified with
the recusant gentleman of the same name
who was in prison at Winchester in 1583, and
who occurs in the first Recusant Roll (of
1592-3) as owning properties in Berkshire,
Wiltshire, and Hampshire. Further par-
ticulars about him would be welcome.
JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.
MAURICE. — I should be glad to obtain
any information about the following Mau-
rices, who were educated at Westminster
School :
(1) E. D. Maurice at the school in 1795.
(2) F. Maurice at the school in 1718.
(3) Maysmor Maurice, admitted to Peter-
house, Camb., Nov. 27, 1735, aged 17, and
elected a Hale scholar in the following year.
(4) P. Maurice at the school in 1795.
(5) William Maurice, admitted in 1733,
aged 7. G. F. R. B.
DERIVATION OF NAMES. — Can any of your
readers suggest the derivation of the following
names, which are chiefly of Shropshire
origin : Amphlett, Crowther, Devey, Eykyn,
Gittins, Hoord, and Nock ?
W. R. F. SMITH.
Norton, near Shifnal.
Two POPES. — Having recently, in th«
course of my reading, fallen upon the two
annexed statements connected with two]
occupants of the Roman See, I submit that
a confirmation or contradiction of them
would interest others than myself. Either
way they merit preservation in * N. & Q.'
as curiosities of history (true or false) and
literature.
I. In the third chapter of Book I. of]
'Notre Dame de Paris,' Victor Hugo
writes : —
" Le proverbe bachique de Benoit xii., ce pape
qui avait ajoute une troisieme couronue a la
tiare : — 'Bibamus papaliter.' "
II. Landor, in his ' Imaginery Conversa-
tions' (vol. iii. p. 406), makes Barrow ob-
serve to Newton . —
'* I have already seen some hundred Sectaries of
that pugnacious pope, who, being reminded that
Christ commanded Peter to put up his sword,
replied, 'Yes, when he had cut the ear off. "
Is there any historical basis for these
assertions, and, if so, was Barrow's pope
Julius II.? J. B Me. GOVERN.
St. Stephen's Rectory, C.-on-M., Manchester.
BLACKWELL HALL FACTOR. — In looking
through some old deeds, I came across the
following description of some of the parties,
viz., John Smith of London, Blackwell Hall
Factor. Can you enlighten me as to what
a Blackwell Hall Factor was ? The date of
the deeds is about 1820.
J. M. ELDRIDGE.
7 St. Aldate's, Oxford.
GENDER OF "DisH " IN LATIN. — Can any
one tell me what is the gender of the word
"Mazonomum" (or -on, or -us)? The
question arose from an attempt to turn
Hi ! diddle-diddle " into a Latin hexameter
by a, friend who wanted to introduce it.
When referred to I could only cover my
ignorance by the following cloud of
words : —
14 Mo,^oz><5yuos is a masculine, dish
Because I say so," said Liddell.
" You may call it any gender you wish,"
Said lexicographer Riddle.
" But it's fiddle-dee-dee, old Liddell, D.D.,
For both you and your coadjutor*
Will agree with me, when you're able to see
That Mazonomum is neuter."
As a matter of fact Liddell gives it as
Ma£ovo'//.o5, Riddle gives it as Mazonomum,
and another dictionary which I consulted
*ives it as either Mazonomus (masculine), or
Vlazonomon (neuter).
J. FOSTER PALMER.
3 Oakley Street, S.W.
Scott.
12 S. V. OCT., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
267
TOMBSTONE INSCRIPTION. — The following
inscription in capital letters is on a tomb in
"alvern Priory: —
hilosophus Dignus Bonus Astrologus Lptheringus
ir Pius ac Humilis Monachus Prior Huius Uvilis :
ic Jacet in cista Geometricus ac Abacista :
oetor Walcherus : flet plebs, dolet undique Clerus
vie Lux Prima mori dedit Octobris, Seniori :
ivat ut in coelis exoret quisque Fidelis MOXXV+
rhat does the fifth line mean ?
H. C— N.
AUTHOR or BOOK WANTED. — There is
DW lying before me a small anonymous
olume, printed at London in 1757 (302pp.).
he following is an abstract of the title : —
" The Art of Conversation ; or the polite enter-
,iner : calculated for the improvement of both
xes By a nobleman of distinguished abilities."
Can any of your correspondents throw
ght on the authorship ? The work does
Dt appear in Halkett-Laing's Dictionary.
J. K. (2)
GIANTS' NAMES. — We have many and
ariously located giants' legends in England
id giants' graves, dykes, tables, caves, &c.,
Dound in the land.
There are, however, comparatively few
^rsonal names of these supermen placed
I record. I here set down some twenty
r them : Ordulph of Tavistock, Gog and
"agog or Gogmagog, Ossian of Ross-shire,
arquin of South Lancashire, Carados of
rirewsbury, Thunderbore, Blunderbore,
lunderbuss, Holiburn of West Cornwall,
srmagol, Denbras, Dan Dynas and his
ife Venna, Cormoran or Cormovan, other-
ise Careg Cowse, and his wife Cormelian of
i. Michael's Mount, Wrath of Portreath,
om of Lelant, Bellerus of the Land's End,
recrobben, Trebiggan of West Cornwall,
id Bolster of St. Agnes.
Several of these are obviously place -
imes, as, for example, Trecrobben and
rebiggan. The former is the name of a
II on the west of the isthmus of Penwith,
hich is dialectically Crobb'n Hill, and in
L6 ordnance maps Trencrom. Trebiggan is
farmstead not many miles from the Land's
ad. Its middle syllable would help to
sociate it with a big man. Bolster is the
Line of a steading on the hill of St. Agnes,
id the giant give his name to the place or
>es the place owe its name to its most
mous inhabitant. Bellerus is suspicious
id suggests that some scholar who was
nd of retailing folk-lore knew that
3llerion is reputedly the classical name for
e Land's End. Careg Cowse is an old
>rnic-Celtic name for St. Michael's Mount.
Others of these names are of a familiar type,
as Tom, Ordulph, and Carados, which in
connexion with Shrewsbury suggests Caradoc.
Thunderbore, Blunderbore, Blunderbuss,
and Wrath, gives one the sense of having
been made up or adapted for the occasion.
The remaining names on the list are not easy
to explain. Gog and Magog sometimes
appear as one giant Gogmagog. Has any
one attempted to explain the derivation of
these syllables ? Can the syllable " Ma" by
any chance be indicative of femininity, ard
was Magog the wife of Gog ? Of Connelian
and Venna giantesses I can only observe
that Vennes(h)ire was the name given in one
of the oldest Cornish charters to the present
Hundred of Kerrier.
Termagol, Cormoran or Cormovan (it looks
as if carelessness in writing r and v has misled
a printer of Hunt's or Botterell's books on
West Cornish Folk-lore), Holiburn, Denbras,
Dan Dynas, and Tarquin are names which I
would ask some of your readers to shed light
on. Most of them are Celtic, I believe, and
if so, what meaning do they possess in that
language ? Do their names arise from some
incident in the story, woven around their
personalities ? In conclusion, will your
readers amplify this imperfect list of the
giants' names of England ?
J. HAMBLEY ROWE.
TITLE OF BOOK WANTED. — I shall be
greatly obliged if any of your readers can
five me the name and publisher of a book
read many years ago. It was a very
charming romance, purporting to give the
origin of the Tanagra figures, the well-known
small statuettes in terra-cotta. The story
was of the sculptor and his lover, the latter,
being a modest young woman, refused to
pose for the nude, and the sculptor eloped
with her to Tanagra, where he modelled the
statuettes in terra-cotta. M. BURNHAM.
141A Kensington High Street, W.
ASTERTION FLOWERS. — In some old-time
culinary recipes these flowers are mentioned
as ingredients. What were they ? ^ I cannot
trace " Astertion " in the * N.E.D.' G.
[? Nasturtium.]
JAMES WHEATLE Y : COBBLER. — James
Wheatley, a cobbler, afterwards Methodist
minister, was the cause of extraordinary
riots in Norwich in 1752. His conduct
resulted in scandal, and he was sentenced
by an ecclesiastical court to public penance.
This was apparently never performed. He
retained the confidence of his congregation,
and died at Bristol.
268
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[ 12 8. V. OCT., 1919.
The fullest information, relative to his
career would be of interest to me. Garrick,
I believe, held him up to public scorn,, but
I forget the details. He receives notice in
Hogarth's scurrilous print of Whitefield
preaching, the " Medley," and there is an
extant portrait of him, but where I do not
know.
To indicate the references known to me,
I furnish the following very incomplete
bibliography : —
1. Tyerman's, Wesley, Whitefield, and Oxford
Methodists.
2. Life and Times of Selina, Countess of Hunting-
don.
3. Biography of Robt. Robinson. By Jared
Sparks.
4. A True and Particular Narrative of the
Disturbances in Norwich, 1752.
f>. The Wolf in Sheep's Clothing. By T. Keymer,
J. /O^.
6. A Reply to the Scandalous Papers of Mrs. M — n
and Mr. T. K— r, 1754.
7. The Fawning Sycophant Display'd. By
T. Keymer, 1754.
8. Gentleman's Magazine, 1752, and Feb. 3. 1756.
9. Minutes of Conference, 1749.
10. A Summary View of the Doctrines of Method-
ism, &c. 1753.
11. An Address to the Protestant Dissenters of the
established congregations in Norwich, circ.
1753. No copy known.
12. Whitehall Evening Post of 1752.
13. The Methodists, an Eclogue. By John Robin-
son. No copy known to me.
14. An Extract of the Life and Death of John
Janeway. By James Wheatley, 1749. No
copy known to me.
15. Larkin's History of Methodism in Norwich.
No copy known to me.
17. Norfolk Notes and Queries, vol. ii. pp. 159,312.
18. Wesley's Journal, passim.
With the exception of those to which
contrary indication is placed, all the above
works are either in the British Museum or
the Norwich Public Free Library.
J. C. WHITEBRQOK.
24 Old Square, Lincoln's Inn, W.C.2.
' QUENTIN DUBWABD.' — I should be grate-
rul for any help in solving the following
points ; the references are to the pages in
the Oxford Scott : —
1. " The wink with which our village
Packwood used to communicate the news of
the morning." — Introd. of 1823, p. xx.
Packwood was presumably a barber, but
whence did Scott get him ?
2. Where can I find some details of
Martin Dominique, the artist who made
"the famous cups of Tours" ? — Chap, iv.,
p. 40.
3. What is the meaning of Dunois's
remark to Louis : " Your Majesty owes
the house of Orleans at least one happy
marriage" ? In return for what ? and why-
" at least one " ? — Chap, ix., p. 111.
4. Whence are the lines of " the old
ballad-maker"
With many a cross-bearer before,
And many a spear behind ?
Chap, xviii., p. 224.
5. What is the source of " the old college-
jest, sero venientibus ossa " ? — Chap, xix.^
p. 239.
6. Who was the " active political agent "
of whom it was said that " his finger was
in- every man's palm, his mouth was io.
every man's ear " ? — Chap, xxxi., p. 392.
7. I presume the motto to chap, xxxiv.,.
p. 425: —
I '11 take thee to the good green wood
And make thine own hand choose the tree,
though purporting to be from an * Old
Ballad,' is Scott's.
8. Is it possible to trace " be hush'd, my
dark spirit." — Introd. of 1823, p. xxi,
I may add that I have run to earth
Aboulcasem, who was asked for in 8 S, i. ;
he is in Namby Pamby's ' Persian Tales.'
C. B. WHEELEK.
LOBD [JOHN] VAUGHAN. — Can any of your
readers give me any information as to Lord
[John] Vaughan, son, I believe, of the Earl*
of Carbery, whose title is now extinct,
though there appears still to be an Earl of
Carbery, and also inform me of the parentage
of his niece who, while he was Governor of
Jamaica — 1674 to 1678 — married David'
de Hennin. I should be very glad of any
information as to the de ancestre of the-
de Henin or Dehany family in Jamaica and'
as to Dr. Dallas of Dallas Castle and James
Kerr or Carr who was living there in the-
eighteenth century. G. D. McGBiGOB.
3 Carlton Hill, Exmouth.
' TOM JONES.' — Gibbon made a prophecy
that ' Tom Jones ' would outlive the-
Imperial eagle of Austria. This prophecy
came true last year. But can any reader
give me the reference to when and where-
Gibbon said it ? DE V. PA YEN-PAYNE.
AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED.—
1. 1 should be glad to know the author of the^
following lines, and where they appear : —
The kiss of the sun for pardon,
The song of the bird for mirth —
One is nearer God's heart in a garden
Than anywhere else on earth.
RICHARD HEAPE.
[These lines are the last of four verses of a sacretB
song entitled * God's Garden ' by D. F. Gurney*.
published by Chappell & Co.]
2. And the low plashing of the sea
Their everlasting threnody. LUCES.
2 S. V.OCT., 1919. J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
269
IFE
OF HENRY MAITLAND
GEORGE GISSING.
(12 S. v. 151.)
the above reference MB. DE V. PAYEN-
YNE says he would like to have a key to
Morley Roberts's 'Life of Henry Mait-
d,' which is reputed to represent the life
the late George Gissing. I can assure
. PAYEN-PAYNE that that book does
hfully represent the life of that unfor-
,ate man of genius, but as nearly all the
Name in ' The Private Life of
Henry Maitland.'
orhampton
efields
e Vortex'
)rning '
: Henry Bissell
horstein
of. Little
proper names in it are disguised under other
names it is rather difficult to know who is
meant in places. However, as no one has
as yet supplied a key to the book I beg to
suggest some twenty identifications for a
start, and if any one can correct me or
suggest other identifications I shall be
very pleased. Any one familiar with
publishing houses and publisher's readers
could easily identify another dozen disguised
names.
A mystery meets us on the title page,
which reads : " The Private Life of Henry
Maitland, a record dictated by J. H., revised
and edited by Morley Roberts." Who is
J. H. ? I take it the book is entirely
written by Morley Roberts, and identify the
following : —
Reed Name
of. Henry Parker
he Exile '
e Rev. Mr. Wolff
hildren of the Dawn '
aternoster Row '
oughton
irold Edgeworth
asil' ... m
he Meditations of Mark Sumner
he Mob ' ...
hn Harley
lydon
he Underworld'
tmerton's
label '
H. Rivers
ubilee'
he Beat of All Things '
he Unchosen'
utside the Pale '
orge Hardy
ford
Ida Moon
ictorian Novelists '
Manchester.
Wakefield.
' The Whirlpool,' by G. G.
'A Life's Morning.' by G. G.
Sir Henry Enfield Roscoe, F.R.S.
Prof. Carl Schorlemmer, F.R.S.
Prof. Joseph G. Greenwood, LL.D., Principal of Owen's
College.
Thomas Parker, M.A., Professor of Mathematics.
(These four were at Owen's College, Manchester, in 1876.)
' Born in Exile,' by G. G.
Either the Rev. Wm. Gaskell, M.A., or the Rev. S. A. Steinthal,
M.A., Ministers of Cross Street Unitarian Chapel at Man-
chester in 1876.
* Workers in the Dawn,' by G. G.
4 New Grub Street,' by G. 'G.
Whelpdale. (A Character in * New Grub Street.')
Mr. Frederic Harrison.
* Veranilda,' by G. G.
4 The Private Papers of Henry Ryecrof t,' by G. G.
' Demos,' by G. G.
Mr. John Morley.
Reardon. (A Character in ' New Grub Street.')
' The Nether World ' by G. G.
Remington & Co. Publishers.
4 Isabel Clarendon,' by G. G.
Mr. G. H. Wells.
4 In the Year of Jubilee,' by G. G.
« The Crown of Life,' by G. G.
4 The Unclassed,' by G. G.
Ditto.
Godwin Peak. (A Character in ' Born in Exile.')
Biffen. (A Character in ' New Grub Street.')
Ida Starr. (A Character in 'The Unclassed.')
' Charles Dickens : a Critical Study,' by G. G.
Just one more point. In my copy of
he Unclassed,' by George Gissing, pub-
led by Sidgwick & Jackson, p. 145, the
[•oine, Ida Starr, washes herself pure of her
s in the sea at midnight, or rather 1 A.M.,
Hastings. Now, in ' The Private Life
Henry Maitland,' by Morley Roberts, it
,tes (p. 165) that George Meredith, who
was the reader for the publishers who first
published * The Unclassed,' compelled Mait-
land to eliminate that passage, and it is
missing in the published book. There is
evidently a discrepancy somewhere. Per-
haps the passage was restored in a subsequent-
edition.
G. A. P.
270
NOTES AMD QUEKLtilS.
[12 8. V. OCT., 1919.
AN ENGLISH ARMY LIST OF 1740.
(12 S. ii. 3, 43, 75, 84, 122, 129, 151, 163, 191,
204, 229, 243, 272, 282, 311, 324, 353, 364,
391, 402, 431, 443, 473, 482, 512, 524 ;
iii. 11, 46, 71, 103, 132, 190, 217, 234, 267,
304.)
MORE than a year ago I corrected proofs of
the matter which follows, but the Editor
could not find room for its insertion. I am
now enabled to give a part of what is in
type.
3rd Foot Guards (12 S. ii. 165, 231).
Unfortunately the history- of this regi-
ment has not yet been written.
James Scott of Logie and Comiestoun,
second son of Hercules Scott of Brotherton,
m. Margaret Wallace of Ingliston ; was M.P.
co. Kincardine, 1713 to 1734 ; brigadier-
general, Nov. 16, 1735; major-general,
July 2, 1739 ; lieutenant-general, March 26,
1743 ; Envoy to Poland.
Charles Legge d. December, 1740 (Gent'
Mag.), and not June 7, 1753, as stated on
p. 231, where he is wrongly placed in the
Coldstream.
Henry Skelton of Braitjiwaite Hall, Cum-
berland, 1st major (vice Legge dec.), 5 Jan.,
1741 ; lieutenant-colonel of the regiment
(vice Scott), March 12, 1743; colonel 32iid
Foot, Aug. 27, 1743; colonel 12th Foot,
May 28, 1745, till he d. April 10, 1757;
brevet-colonel, Aug. 21, 1739; brigadier-
general, Feb. 25, 1744; major-general,
June 1, 1745; lieutenant-general, Sept. 18,
1747.
Hon. George Byng, 2nd major (and
brevet-colonel), Jan. 5, 1741 ; 1st major,
March 12, 1743 ; lieutenant-colonel of the
regiment, Aug. 28, 1743 ; colonel 4th Ma-
rines, June 28, 1744, till broke Nov. 8, 1748 ;
brigadier-general, June 3, 1745 ; major-
general, Sept. 19, 1747. B. 1701, succeeded
his brother as 3rd Viscount Torrington
January, 1747 ; d. April 17, 1750.
James Steuart senior, of Torrence, eldest
son of Alexander Stuart of same, was
A.D.C. to John, Duke of Argyll, 1715, when
commanding in Scotland ; was present at
Sheriffmuir ; served in Spain and Flanders
M.P. Ayr Burghs, 1734 to 1741 ; one o
the two Gentlemen Ushers to the Prince o
Wales in 1727 ; Gentleman Usher, Dairv
Waiter (150Z.) to George II., 1727 till h
d. unmarried, April 3, 1743.
Rowland Reynolds, 2nd major (and
brevet-colonel), March 12, 1743 ; 1st major
Aug. 28, 1743 ; lieutenant-colonel of the
•egiment, July 18, 1744, till he d. in or before
Vlarch, 1748. Presumably son of the
Rowland Reynolds of St. Martin-in-the-Fields,
Vfiddlesex, gent., bachelor, aged 29, who was
icensed 9 April, 1685, to m. Elizabeth Fendall,
>f same, spinster, aged 21, with consent of her
nother, Mrs. Fendall, of Tonhall, co. Surrey, at
>t. Martin-in-the-Fields, St. Paul, Covont Garden,
»r St. Clement Danes, Middlesex " (Chester's
London Marriage Licences ').
Hon. Thomas Murray, colonel (57th, after-
wards) 46th Foot, June 23, 1743, till he d.
unm., Nov. 14, 1764 ; major-general, April 1,.
1754; lieutenant-general, Jan. 19, 1758;
Brother to the colonel of the regiment, and
fifth and youngest son of 1st Earl of Dun-
more ; was appointed a Page of Honour to
George I., 1714.
John Mordaunt of Freefolk, Hants, only
son of Hon. Harry Mordaunt, M.P., b. 1698 ;
Page of Honour (156?.) to Queen Anne in.
1711, and to George I. from 1714 ; Equerry
to the young princesses in 1720 ; Equerry to
he King, June, 1737, to December, 1760 ;
M.P. Pontefract, February, 1730, to 1734 ;
Whit church, April, 1735, to 1741 ; Cocker-
mouth, 1741 to 1768 ; installed K.B.r
June 23 or 26, 1749 ; a Governor of tho
Foundling Hospital, November, 1739;
colonel (new) 58th (afterwards 47th) Foot,,
Jan. 15, 1741 ; of 18th Foot, Dec. 18, 1742 ;
of 12th Dragoons, Dec. 22, 1747 ; of 7th
Dragoon Guards, July 14, 1749 ; of 10th
Dragoons, Nov. 1, 1749, till he d. unm. at
Bevis Mount, Southampton, Oct. 23, 1780,
aged 82 ; brigadier-general, May 17, 1745 ;
served in Holland ; commanded an infantry
brigade at Falkirk, January, 1746 ; fought
at Culloden and at Val, July, 1747 ; major-
general, Sept. 22, 1747 ; lieutenant-general,
May 1, 1754; general, April 13, 1770;
served on staff in South Britain (one of three
to review the forces), June, 1749 ; com-
manded the futile expedition against Roche-
fort, 1757 ; Governor of Sheerness Fort and
the Isle of Sheppey, June, 1752, to 1778 ;
and of Berwick, 1778 till death.
Hon. Robert Carpenter, second major and
brevet -colonel, Aug. 28, 1743 ; first major,
July 18, 1744, till killed at Fontenoy, 1745,
James Russell Stapleton, d. Aug. 16, 1743,
the younger son of Sir Wm. Stapleton, 3rd
Bart., and only brother to Sir Wm. Stapleton,
4th Bart., M.P. (see ' Oxfordshire Members,
1213 to 1899,' privately printed), "is a
Colonel in the Guards " (Wotton's ' Baronet-
age,' 1741), and m. Penelope, daughter of
Sir John Conway, last Bart., M.P., of
Bodelwyddan, co. Flint. She d. May, 1739,
leaving "five daughters.
12 8. V. OCT., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
271
Hon. James Stuart, junior, of Bailliewhirr,
Barvennan, and Auckland, second son of
James, 5th Earl of Galloway, d. unm. at
Calley, April 27, 1768 ; second major of the
regiment (and brevet-colonel), July 18, 1744 ;
first major, May 27, 1745 ; lieutenant-colonel
thereof, Feb. 25 1747 /8, till Col. 37th Foot,
Nov. 17, 1752, till death; major-general,
May 1, 1754; lieutenant-general, Jan. 20,
1758 ; M.P. Wigtown Burghs, 1734 to 1741,
and 1747 to 1754 ; and co. Wigtown, 1741 to
1747, and 1754 to 1761.
Hon. Charles Ingram, fourth son of 5th
Viscount Irwin, matriculated Oriel College,
Oxford, April 29, 1714, aged 16 ; adjutant-
general (and brevet-colonel), April 3, 1743 ;
and also M.P. Horsham, February, 1737,
both till he d. Nov. 28, 1748, having resigned
his company in the regiment, February,
1748.
John Campbell, Earl of Loudoun, A.D.C.
to the King (and brevet-colonel), July, 1743 ;
colonel (new) 64th Foot, April 25, 1745, till
broke, Jan. 4, 1749 ; colonel 30th Foot,
Nov. 1, 1749, till 1770 ; major-general,
Feb. 17, 1755 ; lieutenant-general, Jan. 22,
1758 ; general, April 13, 1770 ; Governor of
Stirling Castle (300Z.), April, 1731, to 1763 ;
then of Edinburgh Castle (500Z.), March, 1763,
till he d. unm. April 27, 1782 ; a Scotch
Representative Peer, 1734 till death ;
Governor of Virginia, February, 1756, to
September, 1759 ; Commander of the Forces
in America, March, 1756, to December, 1757 ;
colonel 3rd Foot Guards, April 30, 1770, till
death ; served in Scotland, 1745, America,
and Portugal. Only son of Hugh, 3rd Earl
of Loudoun, whom he succeeded Nov. 20,
1731 ; b. May 5, 1705 ; formed at Loudoun
Castle the largest then existing collection of
willows, gathered from all parts of the world.
Lord John Murray of Pitnacree, M.P.
co. Perth, 1734 to 1741 ; A.D.C. to the King
(and brevet-colonel), July, 1743 ; colonel
42nd Royal Highlanders, April 25, 1745,
till he d. May 18, 1787, then senior general ;
major-general, Feb. 16, 1755 ; lieutenant-
general, Jan. 21, 1758 ; general, April 13,
1770. Sixth son (first by second wife) of
1st Duke of Atholl, b. April 14, 1711 ; m.
Sept. 13, 1758, Miss Dalton of Banner Cross,
Yorks.
George Ogilvie, d. 1745 (presumably father
of the George Ogilvie, lieutenant and captain
in the regiment Feb. 19, 1757 ; captain and
lieutenant-colonel, Jan. 14, 1763, till first
major, Aug. 7, 1777 ; brevet-colonel, Oct, 4.
1776 ; major-general, Feb. 19, 1779 ; d. 1779).
R. W. WILLIAMS.
(To be continued.)
THOMAS SHEPARD (12 S. v. 179).— There-
was an inquiry about Thomas Shepard, who*
was the minister in Cambridge, Mass., after
the Rev. Thomas Hooker left in 1635.
John Nicholas, Topographer and Genea-
logist, London, 1846, in vol. i. p. 229 et seq.r
has an account of the Harlakenden family of
Harlakenden, Kent. On p. 255 he quotes
from Richard Baxter's ' Certainty of t he-
World of Spirits fully Evinced,' 1691, and
gives two ghost stories from Richard
Harlakenden.
Mr. Thomas Shepard (who afterwards
went to New England), with some other
ministers, prayed and cast out the devil !
This devil had been ringing bells and never
afterwards made a noise.
The Rev. Thomas Shepard, according to-
his autobiography, laid a ghost in England,.
Ralph Josselyn succeeded Shepard as
vicar to Harlakenden (see ' Diary of Ralph
Josselyn,' edited for Royal Hist. Soc. by
E. Hockcliffe, M.A., at office of that society r
published at London, 1908).
There is, of course, a great amount of
matter here in Massachusetts about Sheparct
in this country.
A life of Thomas Shepard should be in the-
British Museum, and he left plenty of"
sermons, and there are letters of his in the
Mass. Hist. Soc. Collections. See ' Thomas
Shepard ' in the ' D.N.B.'
M. J. CANAVAN.
133 West Springfield Street, Boston, Mass.
CHEVALIER PETER DILLON (12 S. v. 206). —
Interesting particulars of Peter Dillon arer
given in w Sea Life Sixty Years Ago,' by
Capt. George Bayly of Trinity Houser
published in 1885 by Kegan Paul, Trench.
Dillon was a herculean Irishman, self-
educated but a fine navigator, who spent
many years as a sandalwood trader in the
South Pacific in the days when the vessels
had to be heavily armed to guard against
attacks by the natives. He was a man of
dauntless courage, great powers of command,-
but of violent and tyrannical temper. Irt-
1813 he was about 28 years of age. In 1825
he sailed as captain and owner of a vessel
he re-named the St. Patrick under Chilian
colours, from Valparaiso to New Zealand
to load spars for Calcutta. At the island
of Tucopia he met an old shipmate, a
Prussian named Buchert, who had been
living among the natives for thirteen years,
and who gave him news of native stories
that long years before two French ships had
been wrecked on the Santa Cruz island
of Vanikoro. Capt. Bayly, then a young
man, was trading officer or supercargo oil
272
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 S. V. OCT , 1919.
board the St. Patrick and he bought from a
Lascar who had been living with Buchert
a silver sword-hilt, which had come from
Vanikoro. It bore the initials of the ill-fated
Comte de la Perouse, and Dillon reported
this discovery to the Royal Asiatic Society at
Calcutta on his arrival there. He was not in
the service of the H.E.I.C., but one of their
cruisers, the Research, was fitted out and he
was given the command, with orders to
proceed to Vanikoro to make further in-
vestigations. This he did and secured brass
guns, besides silver, copper, and iron articles
which conclusively proved that the vessels
wrecked at Vanikoro were those of La
Perouse's expedition. He returned to Cal-
cutta in April, 1828, and was sent to France
with the relics, arriving in Paris in February,
1829. Charles X. created him a Chevalier
of the Legion of Honour, and granted him
an annuity of 4,000 francs. He was then
appointed French Consul to the South Sea
Islands, and resided for a few years in that
capacity at Tahiti. He resigned his consul-
ship and returned to England, where he
lived on his pension until his death in 1846.
There is an article on Dillon in the
' D.N.B.,' Supplement II., which gives the
date of his birth as about 1785, but does not
state parentage or birthplace. It quotes
his ' Narrative,' published in two volumes in
London, 1829. R. S. PENGELLY.
PLANE TREES IN LONDON (12 S. v. 205).—
The theory that the minute spicules shed in
spring from the ripe fruit of the plane act
as agents causing catarrh in, human beings
is not only, as MB. ARDACH observes, " with-
out definite proof," but, so far as known to
me, is pure hypothesis, devoid of any
evidence in its support. It reminds one of
the delightful lines in ' Rejected Addresses,'
satirising those who traced every mishap
and adversity to the direct agency of
Napoleon Bonaparte : —
Who burnt, confound his soul ! the houses twain
Of Coveiit Garden and of Drury Lane ?
Who makes the quartern loaf and Luddites rise?
Who fills the butcher's shops with large blue flies
It is true that the dispersal of plane seeds
and^their volatile achenes by the winds o\
March synchronises with a vast amount of
catarrh among the inhabitants of London
But before the beautiful planes, so patient
of an urban atmosphere, are condemned
would it not be prudent to ascertain whether
spring catarrh prevails to a greater extent
in London, where planes do greatly abounc
for our delectation, than it does in cities
where there are no planes, such as Bir
:anin.gham, Chester, Manchester, Edinburgh,
Glasgow, &c. It is cruel to give a bad name,
without attempting to justify it, to the
aoble tree which is almost unique in its
capacity to resist the many adverse con-
litions it has to encounter in our vast
netropolis. HERBERT MAXWELL.
Monreith.
COWAP (12 S. v. 206, 247).— This is a very
3ommon name in Cheshire. Harrison gives
:he derivation as a " dweller at the Cow-
Hope." " Hope " is a valley or a sloping
hollow, or, as Camden says, " the side of a
hill." This seems a reasonable derivation,
and I have been told that in Herefordshire
we get the name of Cowmeadow, which is
corroborative evidence, if true. Perhaps
some Herefordshire correspondent will en-
lighten us on this point. In Chester we
frequently shorten this word to Cowp.
JOSEPH C. BRIDGE.
Chester.
SEVEN KINGS (12 S. v. 210, 249).— This
spot was originally in the parish of Barking,
and remained so until 1888, when the
ancient parish which extended from Chigwell
to the Thames was divided by Act of
Parliament. Ilford took the north and
Barking the south. Seven Kings is now
in Ilford. Tradition tells that in the time
of the Heptarchy, seven kings, after a
hunting expedition in Waltham Forest,
watered their horses at a stream which
crosses under the Great Eastern Railway
here. No written testimony prevails of the
original story ; but in the MS. tithe-book of
Thomas Cartwright, Vicar of Barking, and
Bishop of Chester, there are two entries, and
this carries the record back to 1669. The
first entry calls the place King's Watering,
the* second says Seven Kings. Both entries
relate to land called Crackbones or Crack-
lands, then in the occupation of a certain
Richard Clark. W. W. GLENNY.
Barking, Essex.
QUEEN ANNE : THE SOVEREIGN'S VETO ;
THE ROYAL ASSENT (12 S. v. 95, 155, 214).—
In my reply at the last reference, viz., p. 214,
col. 2, last line, " sujects " should be
" sujets " ; i.e., I meant that May in his
modernised version substitutes " sujets '
for " subjects." I ought to have added
that he gives " vos " for " vous " — a
justifiable emendation. Seeing that he was
writing a book on ' Parliamentary Practice,
not necessarily of antiquarian research, i1
may be that he was right in modernising the
old French, but it is curious that he should
give " parlment " not " parlement," and
that he should retain " touts " and " vostre."
128. V. OCT., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
273
In the 9th edition of his ' Parliamentary
Practice,' p. 595, he writes of " Les prelats,
seigneurs," &c., as " assemblies," thus
turning D'Ewes's unaccented masculine
" assembles " into the feminine.
ROBERT PIERPOINT.
BISHOPS OF THE FIFTEENTH CENTURY
(12 S. iv. 330 ; v. 107, 161). — There was only
one William, Bishop of Dromore, in the
fifteenth century. But his dates vary
strangely. Gams (' Series Episcoporum
Ecclesise Catholicae, 1873,' p. 217) says
c. 1501, and places him after Georgius
Brann (1487-1499). But Father Conrad
Eubel (' Hierarchia Catholica. Medii Aevi,'
ii. 1901, p. 162), puts him as early as 1463.
Others give 1465-1488.
It is certain that Georgius Brann was
translated to Elphin in 1499, but Gams
gives 1487 as the date at which he began
to rule at Dromore, and Eubel 1483.
Eubel' s order seems the best authenticated.
Gams (p. 233) says that William, Bishop of
Dromore, helped in the province of York,
1463-1501. W. A. B. C.
WESTGARTH, INVENTOR (12 S. iv. 244). —
W. Wallace in his ' Alston Moor, its Pas-
toral People, its Mines and Miners,' (New-
6astle, 1890), pp. 142-3, says the hydraulic
engine for lead-mines was
"re-invented in 1765 by Mr. Westgarth, agent for
the Coal Cleugh [lead] mines [Allendale, North-
umberland] A history of this invention, written
by [John] Smeaton may be found in ' The Transac-
tions of the Society of Arts' Two of Mr. West-
garth's engines were erected in the Middle Cleugh
[lead] mines [Alston], and both were in operation in
1784. One was erected at a later date in the Cross-
fell mines."
A description of the working of these old
hydraulic engines is given in an article
entitled ' My First (and last) Descent into
a Lead-mine in 1836,' which appeared in
Chambers' s Journal about 1866. Perhaps
the above brief note will enable some other
contributor to give more details. I have
reason to believe that this inventor was a
native of co. Durham, and, as well as the
querist, would welcome any further replies.
J. W. FAWCETT.
Consett, co. Durham.
EXETER CATHEDRAL EPITAPH (12 S.
v. 152, 241). — An earlier example has just
presented itself. In Mr. Mill Stephenson's
' List of Monumental Brasses in Surrey '
(' Surrey Archaeological Collections,'
vol. xxv.) there is a description of a brass
to William Millebourne, Esq., 1415, which
was formerly in Barnes Church, but has now
disappeared. It is mentioned by Aubrey
and (with an illustration) by Lysons. The
inscription ends with a Latin couplet corre-
sponding exactly to that which Weever
gives from Maldon.
In Mr. Stephenson's list St. Luke in the
earlier part of the inscription is made-
feminine, an error either of the original
engraver or the transcriber, or the printer.
EDWARD BENSLY.
Oudle Cottage, Much Hadham, Herts.
SIR WALTER RALEIGH AND QUEEN ELIZA-
BETH AT SANDGATE (12 S. v. 96). — The visit,
as described, is surely very doubtful. It
could not possibly be placed in or near 1573.
In that year Raleigh was probably still f
serving in arms in France. Certainly, he had
not entered on London residence, and could
have known nothing of the Court. In
December, 1581, returning with despatches
from Ireland, he first took the fancy of the
Queen. Not over creditable in themselves
they proved "happy despatches-" for
Raleigh, and he speedily rose in favour.
Pillion-riding, even as a joke, was scarcely
a mode of "progress" for Elizabeth, one
would fancy. The Saraband, too-, in either"
form, could hardly have been known in
England at that date — certainly would not
be danced. GEORGE MARSHALL.
21 Parkfield Boad, Liverpool.
BIRDS POISONING CAPTIVE YOUNG (12 S.
v. 210). — I have been long aware of the fact
that if young birds are taken from the nest
and caged in an outdoor aviary, or in a
place where they can be discovered by their"
parents, the latter will visit and feed them,
and attempt to release them. Some years
ago I had ocular demonstrations of this in
the case of some young nuthatches which
were taken from a nest near West Grinstead
and placed in an aviary at Henfield. They
were taken there in a dog-cart by a friend
(the late William Borrer of Cowfold), who
remarked as he drove along that an old
nuthatch was accompanying him along the
roadside, flying from tree to tree. A few
days after the young birds had been placed
in the aviary he received a letter from the
owner of it to say that they were being
visited by a pair of old nuthatches who daily
brought them food. At my request he
drove me over to Henfield to see them, and
as we sat on a garden seat watching we
witnessed the arrival of one of the parent
birds (presumably) which clung to the wires
of the aviary, and fed one of the young.
A further observation made by inde-
pendent witnesses, both in England and
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America, is to the effect that if the old birds
fail to release the captives they will bring
them poisonous berries which prove fatal.
Of this I have had no personal experience,
but I have at intervals noted reported cases.
See The Field of Oct. 12, 1872, and Aug. 24,
1912. The earliest mention of such a case
which I have met with occurs in the Journal
of Thomas Moore, where, under date 1827,
Feb. 25, is the following entry : —
" Brougham told me that in a letter which he had
just received from America (from Casey of Liver-
pool) he was informed that some young birds in a
cage [ppecies not statedl were from time to time
visited by the old ones their parents, and that the
latter, after many attempts to liberate them
through the bars of the cage, brought some
poisonous berries which they placed in the cage,
and which the prisoners immediately eat of and
died."
Moore's comment upon this statement is
" a strange story to send all the way from
America." And so it is ; but, as above
stated, analogous cases have been reported
in England.
Before placing entire credence in such
statements it would be desirable, in fresh
cases, to have more explicit details. For
example, the species of bird observed, in
order to infer the nature of its usual food ;
the name of the plant the berries of which
are alleged to be poisonous ; and the result
of a post mortem examination to ascertain
the cause of death. For although it might
be true that the parent birds brought
berries of some kind to their young, it does
not follow that the latter were poisoned by
eating them. They may have been too
young to appreciate them, and may have
• died simply from starvation.
J. E. HARTING.
Portmore Lodge, Weybridge.
FENNER FAMILY : DUDLEY FENNER (12 S.
v. 181). — There are accounts of Dudley
Fenner in the ' D.N.B.,' Cooper's ' Athenae
Cantabrigienses,' Brook's ' Puritans,' and
many other works on the Puritans and on
Literature. He is described as being born
iu Kent and the heir of great possessions,
but who his parents were is not stated. He
entered Cambridge University, matriculated
as a fellow- commoner of Peterhouse, June 15,
1575, and left the University without
graduating. During his stay there he is
said to have been a celebrated tutor. He
became minister at Cranbrook in Kent, but
being dissatisfied with the Church of Eng-
land went to Antwerp, and was ordained
according to the manner of the reformed
.churches at that place, renouncing his
former ordination. Upon his return to
England he was brought into many troubles
for nonconformity, was imprisoned for
above a year, and ultimately went to
Micldleburg, in Zeland, where he was chap-
lain to the English merchants. He is Faid
to have died at that place in the winter of
1589. He was the author of numerous
treatises, &c. ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
BIBLIOGRAPHY OF EPITAPHS (12 S. v. 68,
129, 161, 192, 218).— I take the following
from booksellers' catalogues : —
Select Collection of Epitaphs chiefly collected
from the Tombstones of the most eminent
Personages in England, Scotland, and Ireland,
with many that are celebrated for their Oddity
and Quaintness. Printed for John Death at the
sign of the Hour- Glass and Skull in Church- Yard
Alley. 12mo, 1759.
Frobisher's New Select Collection of Epitaphs.
216 pp. Printed for Nathl. Frobisher, York. No
date (1790?).
The Epitaph Writer, consisting of upwards of six
hundred original Epitaphs. By John Bowden, a
stone-mason of Chester. 12mo, 1791.
Graham (W.) Collection of Epitaphs and Monu-
mental Inscriptions, Ancient and Modern. 12mo,
1822.
Wadd (William) Nugae Canorae, or Epitaphian
Mementos (in Stone Cutter's verse) of the Medici
Family, of Modern Times. By Unus Quorum.
8vo, 1827.
Booker (L.) Tributes to the Dead ; consisting
of more than 200 Epitaphs. 12mo. 1830.
Simpson (J.) A Collection of Curious, Interesting
and Facetious Epitaphs and Monumental In-
scriptions. 1853.
Booth (J.) Metrical Epitaphs, Ancient and
Modern. 12mo, 1868.
Mottoes for Monufn^nts, by F. and M. A.
Palliser. Post 8vo, 1872.
W. B. H.
To previous works should be added : —
The Churches and Churchyards of Berwickshire.
By James Robson. Kelso, 1896.
The Churches and Churchyards of Roxburgh-
shire. By James Robson.
A good collection of Epitaphs of Organists appears
in Cathedral Organists, Past and Present. By
John E. West. Novello, London, 1899.
I would be glad if MR. J. W. FAWCETT
would correspond with me.
HAYDN T. GILES.
II Ravensbourne Terrace, South Shields.
See list of epitaphs of Scottish martyrs in
' Cloud of Witnesses,' 1765, pp. 375-92.
J. ARDAGH.
There are at the Minet Joint Library,
Knatchbull Road, S.E.5, fifteen volumes of
epitaphs in manuscript, collected and
arranged by myself, which the Librarian,
Mr. C. J. Courtney, would be pleased to show
to any one interested in the subject ; and I
128. V. OCT., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
275
have at home four volumes more unbound,
which I should be pleased to bring to the
Library for inspection by private collectors
any evening after 6 o'clock. Each volume
contains 1,000, and they are indexed for
first lines, subjects, and localities.
G. W. YOUNGE.
43 Maxted Road, Peckham, S.E.15.
GEORGE DYER : PORTRAIT (12 S. v. 237).—
The portrait of George Dyer, by H. Meyer,
was engraved by the artist and by Beetham.
The portrait by E. Cristall was engraved by
J. Cristall. (See Evans' ' Cat. of Prints,'
pt. iv. i. p. 108, ii. 135.)
M. E. CORNFORD, Librarian.
William Salt Library, Stafford.
CARACTACUS: DRUIDS (12 S. v. 237).—
Most of the information on these subjects
will, I think, be found in the Welsh Triads
and other similar documents, and also in the
old British chronicles. Geoffrey of Mon-
mouth gives a great deal of information on
both subjects, and his statements may not
be all fictitious, though many historians
are incredulous. The permanence of certain
towns which derive their names from British
kings, as Carlisle, Leicester, and York (Ebor.),
seems to give them some support.
J. FOSTER PALMER.
Caractacus had a daughter named Eigen.
She is recorded as the first female saint
among the Britons. She married Sarllog,
Lord of Caersarllog, or the present Old
Sarum. A church in Brecons named Llanigon
or St. Eigen, post town is Hay. Caractacus
had a son Cyllin, with whom is closed the
list of primitive Christians of the first
century. Cyllin's son was Coel, who had a
son named Lleurwg, the first saint of the
second century (Rees' ' Essay on the Welsh
Saints,' edn. 1836). Lleurwg Mawr — the
Great Luminary. M.A.OxoN.
EMERSON'S ENGLISH TRAITS (12 S. v. 234).
— Information concerning the nicknames
given to inhabitants of the different states
of the Union will be found in Thornton's
' American Glossary.' " Hoosiers " are the
inhabitants of Indiana. " Suckers " those
of Illinois, while residents in Wisconsin are
called " Badgers." The origin of the two
latter names is given in a long quotation
from The Madison (Wis.) Journal. The
miners in the lead region of Wisconsin were
of two grades, those who stayed at the
" diggings " all the year round, and those
who came up from Illinois for the summer
season. The former lived in caves burrowed
out of the hill sides, which, from the
prevalence of badgers in the district, were*
called " badger-holes," and their inhabitants
" badgers." The annual migrations of the
Illinoisans coincided with those of the
Catastomus or sucker-fish. Hence they wera
styled " Suckers." These names were after-
wards applied to the entire peoples of the
two states. Wisconsin bears a badger as its
crest, and is known as the Badger State.
The inhabitants of many of the states are
or have been distinguished by a nickname.
I have found the following in Thornton :
Ohio, Buckeyes ; Virginia, Buckskins ; Ken-
tucky, Corncrackers ; Missouri, Pakes ~r
Iowa, Hawkeyes ; Michigan, Wolverines ?
Delaware, Blue Hen's Chickens ; Massa-
chusetts, Bay-men.
C. W. FIREBRACE, Capt.
3. Charles I. issued in 1630 a medal which
asserted the claim of Great Britain to the
dominion of the sea, as maintained by Selden,
and in accordance with instructions given
by Charles I. to his Minister at the Hague : —
" We hold it a principle not to be denied that the
King of Great Britain is a Monarch at Sea and on
land to the full extent of his dominions. Hi»
Majesty finds it necessary for his own defence and
safety to re-assume and keep his ancient and un-
doubted rights in the Dominion of the Seas."
The medal is reproduced in my book, ' The
Herring : its Effect on the History of
Britain,' p. 110.
ARTHUR MICHAEL SAMUEL.
Carlton Club, Pall Mall, S.W.I.
2. KTijfjia es dei. See Thucydides, i. 22.
16. Though never legal in England the sale
of wives was not very uncommon. See
10 S. ix. 207, 416 ; x. 118, 237, 276.
JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.
[MR. E. ROLBURN also thanked for reply.]
PROCLAMATION STONES (12 S. v. 178,
221). — At Winchester outside the old gate-
way leading from King's gate to the Cathe-
dral or Priory Close is a block of stone not
unlike what the Brutus-stone at Totnes
must have been like in shape and height
before it was cut down to the level of the-
oavement. My attention was recently
drawn to the stone by a remark in Warren's
* Guide to Winchester ' : " Note Druidicaf
stones near this gateway." I could only
find one stone, however, which attracted
attention : a well worn, obviously ancient
block, placed in the pathway on the outer
south side of the gateway. The material is
hard and the upper surface bears evidence
of being worn more or less flat by use as a
seat or the friction of boots. It may have
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[12 8. V. OCT., 1919.
been used on occasion as a mounting-block,
but there are no steps and it is not high
^enough to suggest that such was the object
for which it was originally placed just out-
side the gates. Will s-ome local geologist
and antiquary kindly explain the character
of the stone and if not an erratic block,
whence was it obtained ? I cannot find
that it was noticed in the Transactions of
.the Archaeological Institute in 1845, when the
meeting was held at Winchester. The old
Cheyney Court just inside the gateway was
from very early times the court-house of
the episcopal jurisdiction of the Soke of
Winchester, and it seems quite possible that,
as on the stones at London, Totnes, St.
Austell, Darlington, and possibly Kingston-
on-Thames, it was customary to read pro-
clamations and judicial declarations from
the stone outside the Bishop's gate and in
the immediate vicinity of the so-called
King's gate. Can some Winchester anti-
quary explain. HUGH R. WATKIN.
Chelston, Devon.
JOHN DURSTON : JOHN DALE (10 S. ii. 45,
116). — At the last reference H. C. makes
William Longford succeed Durst on in the
Wykehamical prebend of Bursalis in, Chiches-
ter Cathedral, but according to the Rev.
George Hennessy's researches published in
his ' Chichester Diocesan Clergy Lists,'
Durston was succeeded by John Dale, M.A.,
in 1556, John Dale by William Haward, M.A.,
in 1558, and William Haward by William
Longford in 1560. William Haward was
Vicar of Cowfold in 1559-60 and was
succeeded in 1575. John Dale is mentioned
in the list at the end of the ' Concertatis
Ecclesise.' He is probably the Fellow of
Queen's College, Cambridge, who took the
degree of M.A. in 1545, and was Rector of
St. Margaret's, Fish Street, London, of
which living he was deprived early in Queen
Elizabeth's reign. His name occurs also in
S.P. Dom. Add. Elz., xi. 45, and in Sander's
list in the ' De Visit ili Monarchia.'
JOHN B. WAINE WRIGHT.
"BUFFALOES" (12 S. v. 237). — A few
years ago I was a brother in the R.A.O.B. and
was advanced to the degree of Primo
(i.e., Master of the Lodge), and ultimately
I became a founder of a lodge, viz., the
Richard Brinsley Sheridan, under the banner
of the Grand Lodge of England. There is
nothing really mysterious about the R.A.O.B.
beyond the signs and passwords. The order
was founded by R. B. Sheridan and other of
the Drury Lane actors at the Harp Tavern,
facing the theatre, in 17 — . They met for
the purposes of conviviality and charity in
the guise of a mimic freemasonry. They
claimed among the founders Noah, hence
the antediluvian, and Nimrod, " a great and
mighty hunter before the Lord," in memory
of whom a pair of buffalo horns ornamented
the lodge room. For the moment I forget
the original name of the order, but after a
time it was dropped, and the name of their
emblem was adopted. The order is now
split into different sections, each called a
banner.
CHRISTIAN E. P. GROTH, M.A.(Camb.).
Research Laboratories,
1 Richmond Buildings, Dean Street, Wl.
LOUISA SPELT LEWEEZER (12 S. v. 237).—
Another example of a quaint spelling of the
name Louisa can be seen in the churchyard
of Selsley (Stroud, Glos.), where a lady is
buried who died Oct. 7, 1870, aged 70 years,
named Lueazer.
JOHN WATSON-TAYLOR.
Wellington Club, Grosvenor Place, S.W.I.
I have never seen Leweezer, but the
abbreviation " Weezer " may be found in
' Concerning Teddy,' by Mrs. Murray Hick-
son (Mrs. S. A. P. Kitcat, wife of the
Gloucestershire cricketer) — one of the best
books about a boy that I know — published
by James Bowden, 1897. But this Louisa or
Weezer was only a doll. G. H. WHITE.
23 Weighton Road, Anerley.
ST. JOHN BAPTIST HEADS (12 S. v. 209).—
As St. Catherine was the patron saint of
maidens and St. Dorothy of brides they are
not unfitly paired. Again, St. Catherine and
St. Margaret were both regarded as specially
helpful in time of trouble, St. Margaret
particularly so in the period of childbirth.
The third couple is more puzzling, but I
would venture to suggest that as St. Dorothy
is the patron saint of brides and St. Mary
Magdalene stands for the contemplative life,
to which nuns vow themselves as " brides
of Christ," it may be intended to signify
marriage in a terrestrial and in a spiritual
sense.
As for their connexion with the Baptist
all these women are said to have been im-
prisoned and beheaded. An additional
reason for inserting St. Mary Magdalene
may have been that she is often depicted in
mediaeval art as a penitent in the wilderness.
There are also traditions to the effect that
St. James the Great, St. Christopher and
St. Antony the Hermit suffered death by
decapitation. T. PERCY ARMSTRONG.
12 S. V. OCT., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
277
NEWTON, R.A. (12 S. v. 236).— Consult
Algernon Graves's book, ' Royal Academy
Exhibitors, 1769-1904,' where many portraits
exhibited in the Royal Academy are recorded ;
also engravings after G. S. Newton in Print
Room of British Museum.
E. E. LEGGATT.
MARTIN (12 S. v. 236).— (10) Samuel
Martin. Probably only son of Col. Sam.
Martin of the island of Antigua by his first
wife Frances Yeamans. Born Sept. 1, 1714 ;
of the Inner Temple, 1747 ; M.P. for Camel-
ford and Hastings, Joint Secretary to
Treasury, fought a duel with John Wilkes,
1763 ; Treasurer to the Princess of Wales,
resided at 84 Pall Mall and Marshalswick,
St. Albans, and died bachelor, Nov. 20, 1788 ;
buried and M.I. at Great Canford, Dorset ;
will [551 Calvert].
V. L. OLIVER, F.S.A.
Sunninghill.
Can any of the Martins have been of the
family of Martins of Hemingstone Hall,
Ipswich ? M.A.OxoN.
" APOCHROMATIC " (12 S. v. 209, 250).—
F. DE H. L. has misunderstood my query.
There is not much doubt as to the quantity
of the second o in the word ; it is the first o
that I queried, and was surprised to find it
marked long in ' Lloyd's Dictionary ' ; in
most other compounds of apo- the o is short.
J. A. S.
METAL MORTARS (12 S. v. 209, 250).— If
MR. J. W. SWITHINBANK refers to The
Pharmaceutical Journal of about three years
ago he will find some interesting notes and
descriptions of mortars. At my instance a
description was inserted of the important
example found at Hyde Abbey, and now
in the Winchester Museum. No doubt the
editor of the Journal will give the references.
W. H. QUARRELL.
Burlington Fine Arts Club, 17 Savile Row, W.I.
JOHN WILSON, BOOKSELLER (12 S. v. 237).
—In partial reply to MR. CHRISTOPHER
MORLEY I find in The Globe, on Jan. 23, 1911,
the following paragraph : —
" Mr. Dobson says : ' The late Mr. John Wilson,
bookseller, once of 93 Great Russell Street, and
afterwards of 12 King William Street, Strand,
informed me not long before his death that he
made them up as a motto for one of his second-
hand catalogues, where I think 1 saw them. He
was amused at the vogue they eventually obtained.'
No doubt many of the vogueists will be surprised,
if not amused, by the revelation."
I venture very respectfully to differ from
so learned a writer as Mr. Austin Dobson, in
consequence of my finding Mr. Alexander
Ireland in his charming book, ' Thef Book-
Lover's Enchiridion,' has placed the quota-
tion as follows (I give his spelling and
punctuation) : —
O for a Booke and a shadie nooke, eyther in-a^
doore or out ;
With the grene leaves whisp'ring overhede or the
Streete cryes all about.
Where 1 maie Reade all at my ease, both of the
Newe and Olde ;
For a jollie goode Booke whereon to looke, is better
to me than Golde.
as ' An Old English Song ' at a period
between 1592-1670, and I do not think that
such a careful compiler and author as Mr~
Alexander Ireland would have given a
quotation in this particular period without/
due investigation, especially as he tells us
in his preface (June, 1888) that he was fifty
years making his collection of quotations,
and his object " has been to present in-
chronological order, a selection of the best
thoughts of the greatest and wisest minds-
on the subject of books."
He would doubtless have made an.
alteration " in the chronological order " had
it been necessary after his first edition,,
published in 1882, or his second (or third)
edition of 4,000 copies, or again in 1887,
when a further new edition (of 5,000 copies)
was issued.
Had this quotation been original to such
a recent writer as Mr. John Wilson the
bookseller, Mr. Alexander Ireland would
have found it out and rectified his first or
subsequent edition, and placed the quotation
at a much later period than about 1590-1670.
I might mention incidentally that many
years ago I adopted the full quotation in
connection with my book-plate, which I still
use, and which is much liked by my friends.
OSCAR BERRY, F.C.A., C.C.
Monument Square, E.G.
MRS. SUSAN CROMWELL (12 S. v. 232).—
The late Sir Bernard Burke, in his ' The Rise
of Great Families,' stated as follows :
" Oliver Cromwell's last male descendant
was Oliver Cromwell, an attorney, the son of
a grocer on Snow Hill." He, therefore, was
the brother of Mrs. Susan — in modern sense,
Miss Susan — Cromwell, mentioned above.
HERBERT SOUTHAM.
Loxley House, Maybury Hill, Woking.
MASTER GUNNER (12 S. v. 153, 212).— A
letter from Fra. Coningesbye, June 28, 1637,
to Capt. Collins states that : —
" the Master Gunner William Elldreade had
complained that he was enjovnde to watch and
warde. He did not think that a Master Gunner ie •
to pass uppon the dutye of a common souldier
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•spicially being an able, and a deserving man in his
quallytye, and an oulde man, and suggests that if
there be convenience for him he should reside
within the fort and be ready upon all alarums."
Capt. Collins was in charge of Mote's
Bulwark, Dover.
Lieut. -Col. Francis Coningsby was ap-
pointed Commissary General of all the castles
and fortifications in England by Charles I.,
Jan. 22, 1636.
William Eldred, sixty years master gunner,
Dover, published ' The Gunner's Glasse,'
London, 1646.
R. J. FYNMORE.
A tablet, which was in Woolwich Church,
in memory of Capt. Leake, Master Gunner
of England, is mentioned at 8 S. ii. 249, 313.
He appears to have died in 1696.
ROBERT PIERPOINT.
CHURCH OF ENGLAND MARRIAGE SERVICE
(12 S. v. 208, 242).— The point of my inquiry
has been missed. Of course I knew that the
service in question begins with " Dearly
beloved " and ends with " amazement." I
wished to know if the sarcasm on marriage
founded on this were a current witticism, or
an invention of Scott's. It seemed to me
probable that Hardy's use of it was suggested
by the passage in ' The Fortunes of Nigel.'
Lerwick.
JOHN WILLCOCK.
MARY CLARKE OF NEW YORK : VASSALL
(12 S. v. 236).— In Archer's 'Monumental
Inscriptions of the British AVest Indies,'
under ' Jamaica,' there is this inscription :
11 Here lies interr'd the body of Florentius,
son of Florentius Vassal, Esq. Born,
April 18, 1732, departed this life May 29
following." B.M. — black marble ? Arms :
In chief, the sun in splendour, and in base
an uncovered cup. Crest over an esquire's
helmet, a three-masted ship with sails furled
(a kind of lymphad). See ' Pedigree of
Vassals of Vassal of Milford.' But I cannot
find any information about Richard Vassall
nor of his wife Mary Clarke. M.A.OxoN.
She was daughter of Thomas Clarke of
New York ; married first Richard Vassall,
son of Florentius Vassall of Jamaica ; he
was born 1733, died 1795. She afterwards
married (July 18, 1796), at St. George's,
Hanover Square, Sir Gilbert Affleck, bart., of
Dalham Hall, Suffolk, and died 1835. For
fuller information re the Vassall family see
Graves and Cronin's ' History of the Works
of Sir Joshua Reynolds,' pp. 1427-8.
Reynolds painted her portrait, now owned
by Lord Normanton at Somerley.
ifej HARRY P. POLLARD.
BOWSHOT: THE LONGEST (12 S. v. 180,
220). — Shakespeare's evidence is of interest.
In Justice Shallow's reminiscences of old
Double we are presumably told what was
considered to be a good performance in
Shakespeare's own day : —
"Jesu, JPSU, dead ! a' drew a good bow; and
dead ! a' shot a fine shoot : John a Gaunt loved
him well, and betted much money on his head.
Dead ! a' would have clapped i" the clout at twelve
score ; and carried you a forehand shaft a fourteen
and fourteen and a half, that if would have done a
man's heart good to see." — '2 Henry IV.' III., ii.
Old Double could hit the mark at 240 yards,
and send an arrow a distance of 280 or
290 vards.
EDWARD BENSLY.
Oudle Cottage, Much Hadham, Herts.
" WHEN YOU DIE OF OLD AGE I SHALL
QUAKE FOR FEAR" (12 S. v. 235).— I came
across this proverb a few years ago in a
slightly different form, in a small village in
Staffordshire. The vicar of the parish was
visiting some parishioners, and we saw two
women, each with a baby, sitting together
on the grass. " They were both born the
same day," one of them said, and added :
" When one dies of old age the other will
quake for fear." I presume it is a fairly
prevalent saying. J. FOSTER PALMER.
' THE MOAT ISLAND ' (12 S. v. 238).— This
is one of a set of coloured engravings of
Windsor Great Park ( I have a set). They
were designs by Paul Sandby for beautifying
the park. The others are": c The Lodge,'
' The Great Bridge,' ' The Lake/ l Belvedere
Tower,' ' Grotto,' &c. I have seen small
engravings of some of them.
MRS. COPE.
Finchampstead Place, Berkshire.
GENERAL WILLIAM HAVILAND (12 S.
ii. 250). — Peter Haviland's commission as
lieutenant in Sir Henry Goring's 31st Foot
in Ireland was renewed by George I. on
June 1, 1715. He was made captain -
lieutenant Aug. 1, 1727, and was captain of
a company therein, June 20, O.S. 1735, till
he " quits " Apr. 1, 1744. He was first
made lieutenant in July, 1714. It is pro-
bable that his regiment would be split up
into detachments of one or two companies
each, and quartered in different parts of the
country. His son William's name appears
in a " List of Gents, humbly recommended
to his Majesty by Lord Cat heart, for
lieutenants in the American Troops," 1739.
Among the " Names of Gents, carrying
Arms," with the " Date of Service and
Character," is : " Wm. Havaland, a pretty
young gent., has carried arms in Col. Handy-
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side's Regt. seven years ; his Father is Capt.
in the same Regt. Recommended by Col.
Blakeney." William Haviland was after-
wards promoted to captain in Blakeney's
27th Foot, Sept. 7, 1742; major, May 24,
1751 ; lieutenant-colonel thereof Dec. 16,
1752, until he was made colonel-commandant
of the 3rd Battalion of the 60th or Royal
American Regt. of Foot in America, Dec. 9,
1760, which he held till it was disbanded at
the Peace of 1763. He was made local
" colonel in N. America only," Jan. 9, 1758 ;
was on half -pay 1763-7, and was colonel of
the 45th Foot, June 1, 1767, till he died
Sept. 16, 1784, set. 67, having become major-
general, July 10, 1763, lieutenant-general,
May 25, 1772, and general, Feb. 19, 1783.
W. R. WILLIAMS.
EXCHANGE OF SOULS IN FICTION (12 S.
v. 124, 191, 246).— In 'Tales from Black-
wood,' vol. ii., is a story called ' The Metem-
psychosis,' by Dr. Robert Macnish. The
date of its publication in Blackwood's
Magazine is given as May, 1826. Two
students in the College of Gottingen exchange
their souls, or rather their bodies, for the
spirit of each is unchanged. The inter-
mediary is apparently the, or a, fiend, in
the shape of " a little, meagre, brown-faced,
elderly gentleman, with hooked nose and
chin, a long, well-powdered queue, and a
wooden leg," whose contract the one student
has signed deliberately, the other carelessly,
t having read what he was signing.
ROBERT PIEBPOINT.
RALPH GRIFFITH (12 S. v. 236). — I would
refer MR. A. WILLIAMS to George Paston's
' Sidelights on the Georgian Period,' 1902
(Methuen & Co.). Article: The Monthly
Review, pp. 145-66, where he will find a great
deal of interesting information.
J. PAUL DE CASTRO.
ROBERTSON (12 S. v. 208, 249). —This
miniaturist married Christian, daughter of
Thomas Jaffray. Some miniatures of the
Jaffray family are in possession of Harriet,
Lady Cope , who inherited them from her
ancestors. MRS. COPE.
FINKLE STREET (12 S. v. 69, 109).—
There is a Fenkle or Finkle Street in
Newcastle-on-Tyne, and one in Stockton-
an-Tees, co. Durham. Streets with the
some name occur in Carlisle and Workington
Cumberland, in Kendal, Westmorland, in
Knaresborough, Yorks, in Barton - on -
Humber, Lines, &c. All these streets are
crooked or have corners in them. The wore
comes from the Danish virikel or vinkle, an,
angle or corner. Finchale Priory, co. Dur-
ham, is situated in an angle or bend of the
river Wear.
The Rev. Joseph Hunter in his ' South
Yorkshire,' vol. ii. (1831), p. 329, in speaking
of Wortley by Tankersley, says : —
" The little hamlets in Wortley, all of ancient
oundation are Finkel-street,"
and then adds : —
kThe name of Finkle street is found in other
mrts of the county [York ]. Finkel is Fennel. But
t seems hard to explain how that plant should
jrive name to a village, and harder still to account
ror its union with the word street in more instances
;han one. while it is not found in union with any of
e usual local termimals."
J. W. FAWCETT.
Consett, co. Durham.
One would expect Winkel (shop) Street to
be a common name on the east and south
coasts frequented by the Dutch.
J. K.
" AS JOLLY AS SANDBOYS " (12 S. V. 180)
— The ' N.E.D.' defines " sandboys " as
" a boy who hawks sand for sale." In John
Bee's ' Dictionary of the Turf,' sandboy
is given as " all rags and all happiness ; the
urchins who drive the sand laden neddies
through our streets, are envied by the capon-
eating turtle-loving epicures of these cities."
" As jolly as a sandboy " designates a merry
fellow who has tasted a drop."
ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
The offering for sale of sandbags of the
shape and size described has been familiar
to me for very many years in inland counties,
but it was only one with other articles
carried by general hawkers, often in vans ;
and the use to which the sandbags, usually
in green or red baize, were put was to lay on
window ledges and frames, or along doors,
to stop draught. W. B. H.
"SCORES" (12 S. v. 122, 165, 194).—
J. R. H. will be sure to find an explanation
current in St. Andrew's, where a seaward
street, a level one, is so called. There are
steps enough at the end of it, viz., the famous
archery butts. J. K.
BIRTH AND BARTH PLACE-NAMES (12 S.
v. 238). — The name Bartham, co. Suffolk,
occurs in a document (8 Eliz.) referred to by
Copinger (' Suffolk Records and MSS.,'
i. 120). Copinger also states that Barton in
Suffolk is sometimes spelt Berthon. Possibly
one of these names may have been contracted
into Barth. M. E. CORNFORD, Librarian.
William Salt Library, Stafford.
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CONTENTS.— No. 98.
NOTES :— The Anglo-French 'De Sanctis,' 281— Fielding as
a Publicist, 283-The Moores of Egham. 234— Waltham-
stow's Historic Manor House. 286— "Tribion"-" Spido-
metre "—Lamb at East India House, 287— The State Coach
—A Threatened River Bed— Jenner Statue at Boulogne-
Louis XVIII. : Monument at Calais— "A little garden
little Jowett made." 288 — Superphosphate — Quarry-
men's Terms— Double Christian Names, 289.
QUERIES :— Hamilton, 289— "Toponymies"— Dumb Ani-
mals — H. Washington — ' Hints to Freshmen ' — " Ney "
— Rev. T. Aubrey, 290— John Bell — Blackstone : the
Regicide— All^yne or Allen— John Norcross— Four Royal
Rivers of Scotland- Patrick Brady— Author of Anthem
Wanted— Cantrell Family—' Cobden : a Bagman '—"Peter-
loo," 291— 'Adeste Fideles'— Missing Register Wanted—
H. Nepean— Melkart's Statue — Marazion— Ensign Oliver
Cromwell — Three Cripples — Alexander — S . Hopkins :
D. Michell : T. Cotesmore, 292— Arms on Stone Entabla-
ture—T. Baillie— J. W. Fletcher— Wilson of Westmorland
and Cumberland — Unfinished Law Case — Crusaders'
Names— Army Officers' Obituary — Pseudonyms— Daggle
Mop, 298— Church Briefs— T. Greenwell— Pannag— Rome-
land— Simco's'Monuments— Boyer Family— Royal Grooms
— W. Cope— Capt. R. Boyle— Slang Terms, 294— Fremland
and Gunpowder Plot—'4 Xit "— Bell Tavern, Bristol-
Translations Wanted — J. J. Kleinschmidt — " Now
Then ! "— G. Shepherd— Gavelacre : Place -n ame— David
Powell —Authors of Quotations Wanted, 295.
REPLIES :— Strange Tale of a Princess, 296— John Wilson
—New College, Oxford— Thames Tunnels, 297— Capt. B.
Grant— References Wanted, 298—' Village Blacksmith '—
' Tragedy of Nero,' 299— Lucien Bonaparte—" Dish " in
Latin, 300— Discoveries in Coins— G. Dyer— Piano f.egs in
Trousers— Elephant : Oliphant, 301— "Old Lady of Thread-
needle Street "—Emerson's 'English Traits '— Astertion
Flowers— Bluecoat Schools— Brassey Family, 302—' Tom
Jones ' — Tobacco Pipes — " As dead as a door-nail," 303 —
Hedgehogs— Hampshire Church Bells. 304— Old Watch-
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Portraits on Gravestones — Blackwell Hall Factor —
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THE ANGLO-FRENCH 'DE SANCTIS/
IT does not appear to have been generally
noticed that the Anglo-French list of saints
and their burial places, preserved as the
last item in the miscellaneous matter bound
up with the Breviate of Doomsday and
printed in the Rolls edition of Gaimar's
* Estoire des Engleis ' (vol. i. Introduction),
is in part a version of a much earlier list
originally compiled in Anglo-Saxon about
1030 and translated into Latin before 1085 ;
both of these were published by Lieber-
mann in 1889 under the title ' Die Heiligen
Englands,' the Anglo-Saxon from two
MSS., the Latin from a British Museum MS.
(Cotton Vitellius A. 2 f3-5 = V.) with variants
from two others and from a version pre-
served by Leland in his * De Rebus Britain.'
(ed. Hearne III. 80).
The Anglo-French text, as it stands,
belongs to the fourteenth century, but
cursory examination shows that it is not
all of one date in origin. The introduction
in verse, " Ci sunt les mervailes dites," is
due to the writer of the MS. before us -and
to him is probably due the introduction of
the prose miracle of St. Cradoc, which is
inserted between the list proper and the
next section of the treatise — the description
of Britain deriving from Henry of Hun-
tingdon's history (Lib. I. §§ 4, 5, 7). The
main body of the text is much earlier in
origin, and seems to have been put together
in its present form in the first half of the
thirteenth century, the most recent date
being the mention of St. Hugh, Bishop of
Lincoln ; there is, however, a distinct trace
of an earlier form compiled about the
middle of the twelfth century by a writer
living in the south of England. From the
initial entry of the list proper — " St. Alban
fust li premir martir si fust posez en
Lingecestre " — down to the entry con-
cerning St. Osith and Aylesbury we have
a fairly close version of the earlier De
Sanctis interspersed with a few additions,
either augmenting the list or supplementing
existing statements. Of the first class are
the entries relating to Glastonbury, Ciren-
cester and Aylesbury ; of the second are
the addition of'Caricius (?=Faricius, abbot
of Abingdon, d. 1117) in the entry referring
to Abingdon and the re -arrangement of the
entries relative to Winchester. The latest
date in this part is that given by the men-
tion of Thomas a Becket, but it is not
improbable that the list was put into French
some twenty or thirty years earlier as the
next latest reference is, apart from Caricius
(v. supra), to Anselm (d. 1109). This early
draft seems to have found its way, either
original or in copy, to a more northerly
home where about a dozen more names were
added — the entries from St. Oswi e St.
Oswine en Tinemue to St. Bethothe en
Copland — probably, as they are in no sort
of order, in one batch.
The question next arises whether the
source of the first draft is the Anglo-Saxon
or the Latin version of the De Sanctis.
The evidence, though not very conclusive,
suggests that a Latin text, not identical
with V. nor, seemingly, with those cited
in the variants in Liebermann's edition,
was used by the translator. In support of
this view the following points may be
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 S. V. XOV., 1919.
submitted, the paragraphs being those of
Liebermann's edition :
f 8. Our text agreeing with V. has St.
Ethelred li roys instead of Ethered.
§ 13. Our text agreeing with the A.-S.
and Latin other than V. has Ethelb[u]rth.
§ 16. Our text has St.Winstan in place of
the correct Wigstan, the reading deriving
apparently from the same tradition as the
Wihstan of Leland's transcript.
§ 27. Our text has St. Pancred — e St.
Berefrid in place of the correct St. Thancred
— e St. Herefrid ; the first error is not found
in V. but does occur in another MS. (Arundel
74 f. 10), the second occurs only in V.
Reference to the earlier De Sanctis
enables us to elucidate a number of rather
obscure names in the Anglo-French version
as the following examples will show.
8 2. Lingecestre= St. Albans : this mistake
is due to the omission of the initial W. in the
Anglo-Saxon name Wsetlingaceaster, a mis-
take more likely to occur in a Latin than in
an English MS. ; the scribe reading " ....
locum qui vocatur setlingaceaster " ren-
dered it by " en Lingecestre," just as in
§ 6 he translated "....quod vocatur aet
Hryopan " by "en Ripon."
§3. " Sur Lewetan," as it is printed in
the Rolls edition, is seen to be " sur Fewe
Tau (R. Tay) " = " iuxta amnem qui vocatur
Tau."
§ 10. " Croilan.de entre plus sur ewes,"
the latter part of which is hardly sense, is
probably, in view of the earlier text, to be
emended to " C. en les palus Gireweis" =
" in mediis paludibus [Giriwensis]," the
A.-S. text having " on middan Girwan
fsenne."
§ 24. " St. Nielabe," as he is called in the
printed (R.S.) text, is seen to be " St.
Nie 1'abe " = " St. Neot presbyter."
There still remains one problem, of wider
interest, to be discussed : the relation
between our list and Gaimar's ' Estoire des
Engleis.' Briefly stated the position is
this. In vv. 1289—98 Gaimar in accordance
with the A.-S. Chronicle records the death
and burial of St. Oswald ; in vv. 2096-122,
as a result of a confusion between Oswald
and Alfwald, he again relates the fate of
the former, but there are additional refer-
ences of a general nature to places in
possession of relics of or otherwise con-
nected with Oswald which do not appear in
the first account. Gross in his dissertation
(Gaimar : ' Die Komposition seiner Reim-
chronik und sein Verhaltnis zu den Quellen.'
Erlangen, 1902) is of opinion that Gaimar
obtained this information not by compiling
it himself from the various biographies of
the saint, but by consulting a F hort list
similar to that of the Breviate of Dooms-
day, where we have the two consecutive
entries : —
"St. Cuthbert en Ubeford prof de Tuede puis
fust remue d'iloc a Duralme. Iloec gist tot entier
e la teste St. Oswald sur la peiterine.
"St. Oswald fu posez en Bardeneie, or dit 1'om
k'il est en Nostle. Mes li moigne de Burc dient
k'ilont les mayns entiers."
If we turn to the source of our Anglo-
French list we find only : —
" §§ 4. 5. Beatus vem Cuthbertus in loco qui
vocatur Ubbanford — vel Dunholm— requiescit iuxta
amnem qui Twiode vocatur.
" Caputque sancti Oswaldi re<jis ef martyris simul
cum corpore beati Cuthberti reqnioscit : bracliitim-
que eius dextrum in looo qui dieitur Bcbb«nl'erier,
corpusque eiua reliquum in novo monasterio apud
Gleaweceastre."
Thus our translator has here made a
deliberate alteration after reference to some
other source of information. On the other
hand, if we compare the expressions of our
list and those used by Gaimar, we can hardly
avoid the conclusion that there is some
connection. Thus cf. Gaimar, vv. 1293—4 —
A Bardeneie fud ported
La fud une nuit herberged,
the last line of which, from the Durham
and Lincoln MSS., is more in harmony
than the reading of the Royal MS. — "Son
cors i fu bien enterre," with the subsequent
reference : —
En fud ported a Bardenaie
Hoc le vindrent (en) sevelir
A Nostle co dient asquanz
La 1'enporterent ses aman/c.
(vv. 2108-14.)
Sur saint Cutbert la gist sun chief
A Durelme est co dit le brief.
(vv. 1295-6.)
A Duralme Deu[s] seit loed (Lincoln MS.
reading.)
Sun chief entier est bien posed
Sur la peitrine saint Cutbert.
(vv. 2119-21.)
One other possible point of contact may
be mentioned before we continue the dis-
cussion. In vv. 1374—6 of his chronicle
Gaimar in accordance with the A.-S.
Chronicle relates the death of Tuda, and as
a result of the not uncommon confusion
between the A.-S. " W." and the Roman
"P." buries him at Paggle instead of
Wagele (=Whalley ?). Similarly in the
additions of the second draft of our text
we find " St. Tude a Pagle," showing that the
compiler was using a written source for his
information. Of this connection there are
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
283
three possible explanations : either the
writer of, probably, the second draft had
access to a copy of Gaimar and used it to
•correct just this one entry relative to St.
Oswald, which is hardly likely, or the
alteration was made by the writer of the
first draft which was then used by Gaimar
or the list was originally compiled by Gaimar
himself, a supposition which would involve
a reconsideration of the relations between
the two drafts and their dates. As it
cannot be definitely established that the
Wagele-Paggle confusion is due solely to
Gaimar the second alternative is the most
probable though in view of the fact that
indications in the text of Gaimar, which
I have not yet been able to work out in
detail, point to his connection with the
south of England, including among other
places Abingdon, as well as with Lincoln-
shire, the third possibility should not be
•entirely excluded at present.
Further investigation of the Latin ver-
sions'of the De Sanctis and of similar com-
pilations, e.g., the Peterborough Chronicle
of Hugo Candidus of 1173, which, as I am
unable to follow it up at present, I leave
for others, would probably lead to a more
satisfactory solution of the various problems
adumbrated above than I have been able to
•offer from the material at my disposal, and
to the identification of one or two of the
obscurer saints mentioned, e.gr., St. Bethothe
•en Copland. ALEXANDER BELL.
31 Hanover Square, Leeds.
FIELDING AS A PUBLICIST.
•THE COFFEE-HOUSE POLITICIAN.'
Justice, Squeezum. Did Mother Bilkum refuse to
•pay my demands, say you ?
Quill. Yes, sir ; she says she does not value
your worship's protection of a farthing, for that
•she can bribe two juries a year to acquit her
in Hick's Hall, for half the money which she hath
(paid you within these three month*. (Act II. so. i.)
Sot more. Squeezum, thou wilt be ushered to
Tyburn with more pomp than Alexander was
ushered into Babylon. Justice never triumphs so
universally as at the execution of one of her own
officers. (Act IV. sc. vii.)
Justice Worthy. Let me tell you, Justice
Squeezum, he is the greatest of viiiajns> who hath
the impudence to hold the sword of Justice while
he deserves its edge. By Heaven, it shocks me that
we, who boast as wholesome laws as any kingdom
upon earth, should, by the roguery of some of their
-executors, lose all their benefit, (Act V. )
Thus wrote the young dramatist, Henry
Fielding, in one of his earliest and most
;amusing comedies, which was played at the
Little Theatre in the Haymarket in June,
1720 (when Charles Macklin first made his
mark), and also in the Lincoln's Inn Fields
Theatre in the December following.
Let us now do what neither the play-
wright nor the audiences were able to do,
and (to borrow an expression from ' Tom
Jones') "peer into the unopened leaves of
Fate " by transporting ourselves twenty
years onwards.
Late in 1748 Fielding entered upon the
duties of a Justice of the Peace for the City
and Liberty of Westminster ; early in
January, 1749, he was appointed a Justice
for the county of Middlesex also ; while in
the following May his brethren for the city
of Westminster chose him as their chairman
of Quarter Sessions.
By courteous permission of Montagu
Sharpe, Esq., chairman of the Middlesex
Quarter Sessions I have been permitted to
examine the original ' Quarter-Sessions
Orders, 1743-1753,' and in the light of the
sentiments expressed in * The Coffee Hou;e
Politician,' there are a few entries that arrest
the attention and justify once again the
maxim that the youth is oftentimes father
to the man.
On Jan. 11, 12, 13, 1750, Fielding pre-
sided at the General Quarter Sessions
" holden where the Court of Exchequer is
usually held at Westminster." From
Jan. 15-18 he was occupied at Hick's Hall ;
on the first two days with the trial of
prisoners ; on the 17th with . Settlement
appeals, and on the 18th with a business
meeting of the justices. It is to the pro-
ceedings of the last day only that, for
present purposes, attention is drawn. After
a long and important representation to the
judges at the Old Bailey, on matters of
practice, had been passed ; then,
" A matter com'ng on to be debated concerning
some irregularities alleged to have been committed
by Henry Broad head. Esq., in relation to his office
of a Justice of the Pe<ce of this county Henry
Fielding, E?q., informing this Court that he hath.
a further charge to bring against Hie said Mr.
Broadhead by affidavit in writing It is ordered
by this Court that a copy of such further charge
be transmitted to the s^id Mr. Broadhead, and
that a committee of his Majesty's Justices of the
Peace be appointed to examine and consider of the
said matters. Whereupon it is recommended by
this Court unto Thomas Lane Henry Fielding
and Walter Berry, Esqr.s., or any three or
more of them as a committee to meet together at
Hick's Hall on the first day of March to con-
sider of the matters comprized in the said affi-
davits and of what answer shall be given thereto
by the said Mr. BroKlhnad who is desired to be
present that he may be heard touching the said
matters."
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[12 S. V. Nov., 1919.
The next entry relative to this affair
runs : — •
" By adjournment on the first day of March, 1749
[1750]. Upon consideration of several affidavits
concerning some irregularities alleged to have
been committed by Henry Broadhead, Esq.......
This Court is of opinion that a representation be
drawn up to the Lord High Chancellor against
the said Mr. Broadhead It is hereby recom-
mended unto His Majesty's Justices of the Peace
to wit Thomas Lane Henry Fielding.. ....and
Walter Berry Esquires to meet together at Hicks
Hall on the 'fourteenth day of March to draw up
the said representation to the Lord High Chan-
cellor against the said Mr. Broadhead."
Then occur entries occasioned by Mr. Broad-
head putting in no appearance. Anxious, no
doubt, to stave off the day of reckoning, he
writes that he is obliged to resort to Bristol
for the waters on the advice of his physicians.
He is finally given a date on which the
justices will proceed to draw up their
representation whether he be present or not.
It was finally settled and signed on April 26,
and Lord Hardwicke appears to have
removed Broadhead' s name from the com-
mission. His chief offence was a continued
practice of declining to proceed in a prose-
cution for felony unless the prosecutor
paid him for a warrant for arrest in cases
whese the prisoner was actually before the
Court, and had confessed to the fact.
Within less than a year a similar case was
considered — at the sessions held on Feb. 25,
26, 27, 28, 1751, at Hick's Hall— Fielding
being again present. On the last day a
very strong representation was drawn up
setting forth the malpractices of another
justice, Sir Samuel Gower. It was sent -to
the Lord Chancellor, but the knight could
not have been removed from his office for
his name appears as a regular attendant
at the sessions for a long time subsequently.
His villanies, however, stand recorded
against him to this day, and they were of a
blacker dye than Broadhead' s.
The persual of these graphic records gives
rise to two reflections : —
1. Do they not justify up to the hilt
Miss Godden's remark that " from the days
of his first boyish satires to the last energetic
acts of his life as a London magistrate, for
Fielding to see an abuse was to set about
reforming it " ? (' Memoir,' 1910, p. 61).
2. Was it disgust at Gower going un-
punished that determined Fielding to ex-
pose that class of character, and have we
here the original of " Justice Thrasher " in
' Amelia ' which appeared in December,
1751 ? j. PAUL DE CASTBO.
1 Essex Court, Temple.
NOTES FROM AN OLD DIARY:
THE MOORES OF MILTON PLACED
EGHAM, SURREY.
THE accounts of this family which have
appeared in the local and county histories
are very meagre and inaccurate. This,,
however, is not the fault of the compilers
and historians, for though the family was
an armigerous one, and was seated at
Egham for nearly 150 years, they do not ap-
pear in the Herald's ' Visitations.' Then, too,
though they were wealthy and prolific, only
one of them seems to have taken any active
part in public life. This member is noticed
in the * D.N.B.' under the name of Robert
Moor, and the article, though short, contains
more than one error, and is altogether mis-
leading. There is another obstacle, one
that every genealogist and biographer knows
to his cost. Like many other families the
Moores had a preference for one particular
Christian name ; in their case it was Adrian.
All the accounts of the family mention but
two of that name ; there were at least five
Adrians.
The third Adrian pre-deceased his father,
who died in 1672, when the family estates
passed to another Adrian, whose son Adrian
ignored his cousin and heir-at-law, and left
Milton Place to a distant relative, William
Edgell. Edgell had no son and his daughters
died childless or unmarried, so again the
property passed to a cousin Richard Wyatt,
whose descendants added the name of
Edgell to their own.
To the late Arthur Wyatt Edgell I am
indebted for the sight of an old diary kept
by the Robert Moore above mentioned and
his son Robert. For the most part the
entries are merely records of the births,
deaths, baptisms, and marriages of their
numerous progeny, but there are a few
notices of current events, and what is of
greater interest, many particulars of the
career of the elder Robert hitherto unknown.
All his entries are in Latin, as befits a
cleric, and from them we learn that he was
born at Antwerp in 1568, and not at Holyard,
Hants, as stated in the ' D.N.B.' As all his
brothers and sisters were born in that city
it is evident that the family were settled
there. His father was born in 1534 at
Brerport (sic), Dorset, and married at
Antwerp Katherine Cobinger of Breslau in
1562. The family returned to England
about 1574 and Robert entered New College,
Oxford, in 1587, proceeded M.A. in 1595, and:
was ordained at Salisbury the next year.
12 S. V. Nov., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
285
His career in the Church was long and
prosperous. He was evidently acquainted
.with Bilson, Bishop of Winchester, who
made him his domestic chaplain in 1597 and
presented him to the rectories of Milbrooke
<and Dipdene at the same time. In 1600,
-not 1597 as in the 'D.N.B.,' he was pre-
sented to the well-endowed rectory of West-
Meon and received permission to hold that
of Chilcombe also. 'Apparently he retained
both until his death in 1640. He preached
Before and was received in audience by
King James in 1607 and again in 1609, and
Moore notes in his diary the cordial nature
of his reception. In 1613 he was installed
prebendary of Winchester, and in the
following year took his degree of D.D.
James appointed him a Court chaplain in
1623, and Charles continued him in that
office on his succession. According to
Gardiner, 'History of England,' vol. vii.
pp. 50-56, he was called before the Commons
'to give evidence as to the doings of Laud
-and Neile.
By his first wife Constant]' a, the daughter
of Dr. Sprint, he had six children, of whom
a daughter, Arnica, married Dr. Twisse, the
nephew of Bishop Bilson. There is a slight
error in the ' D.N.B.' account of Twisse.
It states that he married the daughter of
Robert Moor before 1615 ; but she was not
born until 1602, and the diary tells us that
the ceremony took place April 18, 1626, and
that the lady was 23.
By his second wife Francesca Loving,
Moore had five children, one of whom,
Barbara, married Dr. Edward Meebkirke,
another wealthy Hampshire divine.
In 1640, being then in his 72nd year, Dr.
Moore was evidently nearing his end, for his
son Robert takes up the diary to record his
mother's death. It is probable that he was
not so good a classical scholar as his father,
for after this first entry the remainder are in
English. On Feb. 20, 1640, he writes :
" Satcly. about 9 of the clock in the morning
my most deare and loving father Robert
Moore Dtr. of Divinity departed this life
setatis suse 72 following my mother just six
-weeks to an howre. ' ' He was buried at West -
Meon two days later, and " Dr. John^Harris
did preach his funeral."
Nearly all the remaining entries by the
younger Robert are records of the birth and
baptism of his nine children, none of whom
seem to have distinguished themselves. It
is, however, practically certain that it was
his youngest daughter Anne who married
into the Edgell family, and became the
mother of the William Edgell who inherited
Milton Place in 1750.
The date of the death of the younger
Robert is unknown, but it was after 1657,
the date of the last entry in the diary.
Dr. Moore, in accordance with the fashion
of his time, was fond of chronograms, and
among others we have the familiar one on
the Duke of Buckingham. There is also a
reference to the ill-fated expedition to the
Isle of Rhe. He also notes that on Jan. 31,
1622, there were three tides in the Thames,
and that the same occurrence took place in
1413 and 1574. At 7 S. viii. 348 and 433
will be found references to the same subject.
The younger Robert lived through the
troublous times of the Civil War and the
Protectorate ; but there is not a single
reference to the public events of that
stirring time. The family was a Puritan
one, but their sympathies do not appear
to have led them to take any active part in
the struggle.
Dr. Moore had an elder brother Adrian,
a London merchant who leased the manor
of Milton from C.C.C., Oxford. He died in
161 8, at his house on Tower Hill, and from the
State Papers Domestic we learn that in
1634 his widow, reputed a rich woman,
refused to subscribe to the repairs of
St. Paul's, the matter was brought to the
notice of the King, who "was greatly incensed
and directed the Dean and Chapter not to
renew her lease of the house on Tower Hill.
They were also charged to register his letter
as "a monument of her unthankfulness."
The Egham property had descended to her
son Adrian, who died in 1672. His son,
another Adrian, died before his father, and
Robert Moore the younger had prudently
christened his fourth and only surviving son
Adrian. Family reasons also seem to have
dictated the advisability of being on the spot
when anything happened, so he left Hamp-
shire and settled at Thorpe Lee, Egham.
This Adrian was born there in 1654 and
succeeded to Milton Place in 1672, as already
mentioned. He also acquired the crown
lease of the manor of Egham, and married a
fortune of 30,OOOZ. He died in 1740 at
Milton Place, aged 86, and not " upwards
of 90," as stated in contemporary obituaries.
As a famous editor of ' N. & Q.' would have
observed, this is the way centenarians are
made. His son, another Adrian, followed
him. He was childless, and apparently
quarrelled with his heir-at-law Robert Moore
of Hammersmith, as he left his estate to a
more distant cousin William Edgell.
286
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. v. NOV.,
It is not often that one comes across such a
storehouse of genealogical information as
this old diary, which, in addition to the
items I have referred to, gives particulars
of the proceeding generation. It has fur-
nished material for a very full pedigree of the
family from 1534, but onTaccount of space
an outline only is given.
Robert Moore of "Brerport,"
b. 1534, ob. 1601.
I
Adrian,
born Antwerp, 1534,
ob. 1618.
Adrian, ob. 1672.
Adrian, ob. 1655.
Robert, D.D.,
born Antwerp, 1565.
ob. 1640.
Robert,
born 1618, ob. after 1657.
Adrian,
born 1651, ob. 1740.
Adrian, ob. 1749.
I I
Anne=r... Edgell.
VVm. Edgell.
3 daughters.
A niece of Wm. Edgell=rRiohd. Wyatt.
Edgell Wyatb Edgell.
Richd. Wyatt Edgell.
Arth. Wyatt Edgell.
! I I
2 sons. daughter.-
I might add that the second Adrian of the
elder line was a lunatic.
FREDERIC ".TURNER.
WALTHAMSTOW'S HISTORIC MANOR
HOUSE.
WALTHAMSTOW, six and a half miles from
Liverpool Street Terminus, is normally
lavishly served by road and by rail. Every
good Londoner knows that it was once part
of the Great Forest from which it derives
its Anglo-Saxon name. Strangers may be
reminded that it lies between Chingford on
the north, Leyton on the south, and Wan-
stead on the east, among the hillocks and
undulations which border the suburban
bank of the River Lea ; and it is claimed
that a larger proportion of its denizens of all
classes derive from the old Tower Hamlets
and the ancient Stepney Manor than any
other part of the Outer Metropolis, not even
excepting the townships and villages abutting
on the Great Eastern Railway to Loughton.
The Register of the ancient St. Mary's
Church only begins in 1645, but Lysons is
careful to name four persons who flourished
for upwards of a century.
The fifth monograph of the Walthamstow
Antiquarian Society (only founded so late as
1915) is devoted to Higham Hall, now known
as Essex Hall — the most ancient house in
the parish of Walthamstow, and in Eliza-
bethan days the Manor House of Higharn
Benstead, given, it is said, by the Virgin
Queen to her sometime favourite, the Earl
of Essex. It was made famous again in the
earliest part of the nineteenth century by
Eliezer Cogan's school. This remarkable
Nonconformist minister, a powerful preacher,
a first-rate Greek scholar, and an accom-
plished musician, for eight and twenty years
from 1801 carried on the school, never taking
a single day's holiday ; and he died in 1855
at the age of 93. As everybody ought to
know, Walthamstow is rich in traditions of
old and eminent Nonconformist educational
associations scarcely less than middle-class
Dissenting Hackney close by. For instance,
the Rev. Samuel Slater, M.A., ejected from
the collegiate chapel of St. Katharine-by-the-
Tower, after some wanderings settled at
Walthamstow and received an official licence
from the Crown to teach in his own house.
Doubtless he was the spiritual forerunner of
Eliezer Cogan, who made the remnant of the
old Hall, the Manor House of Higham
Benstead, into a famous educational centre.
ELIEZER COGAN.
The fifth monograph of the Walthamstow
Antiquarian Society sets out that Eliezer
Cogan was born at Rothwell,in Northampton-
shire, in 1762. He was the son of a doctor,
John Cogan, " a Protestant Dissenter with
moderate Calvinistic opinions," who had
made Eliezer a good Latin scholar by the
age of 6. The boy had a decided gift. for
tongues, and though he learnt no Greek at
Samuel Addington's Academy at Market
Harborough and was self-taught in that
respect, Dr. Blomfield, Bishop of London,
said that " Cogan was the first Greek scholar
in England " ; while Dr. Parr, eminent both
as a Greek scholar and a Churchman, " placed
Cogan among the first Greek scholars of his
time." Eliezer was trained for the ministry
at Daventry Academy, which he entered in
1780, and he worked under Toller, Kenrick,
and Belsham. He became in 1787 the
Presbyterian minister at Cirenc ester, and
was soon recognised as one of the most
learned Dissenting pastors of his day.
However, in 1790 he^became^a schoolmaster,
128. V. Nov., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
2187
and after passing from Cirencester to Ware,
Enfield, and Cheshunt, he settled in 1801 at
Walthamstow as a minister and a school-
master. He took Higham Hall, and it soon
became an important boarding school, with
a fins staff and a remarkably wide curricu-
lum, which was supplemented with ample
:spor,';s and a strict though undenominational
training in religion. The enterprise was a
•great success and Cogan in 1828 retired from
i»ctive service with savings amounting to
ao,oooz.
DISRAELI'S SCHOOL.
At this school were educated Disraeli,
Busk of the Chancery Bar, Russell Gurney,
/Samuel Sharpe, and many other prominent
men, including Paget, the remarkable Thames
Police magistrate = " cadi," Richard and
Harry Green of the historic Blackwall
Yard ,<f Alexander Ellis, the plionetician, Miss
Florence Nightingale's father, &c. Benjamin
Disraeli, according to his own account,
was there for four years from the age
of 13 ; and he says : "I learnt, or rather
'read, a great deal in these years." Ben-
jamin's father, Isaac, had made Cogan' s
-.acquaintance accidentally and had been
attracted by him ; and Benjamin himself
gives a very flattering description of Cogan
as a teacher. But the comment of Disraeli's
biographer, Mr. Monypenny, is that : "In
later years the memory of Higham Hall
seems to have absorbed many of the recol-
lections both of what preceded and what
followed on his education " ; and Mr. Mony-
penny ventures to doubt whether Disraeli
stayed at the Higham Hall School so long
as four years. A story is given that Disraeli
accompanied the Anglican pupils to
St. Mary's Church instead of the Meeting
House in Marsh Street with which Cogan,
then a Unitarian, was connected. The
Anglican service being long and the boys
generally very late for their dinner, Disraeli
threw out the suggestion that they had better
all become Unitarians, for. the term of their
school life, at any rate. Cogan seems to
have had no particular fondness for his very
self-conscious pupil. Mr. W. P. Courtney
mentions that Cogan used to say "I don't
like D'Israeli : I never could get him to
understand the subjunctive." Disraeli often
revisited Walthamstow — as he did every
place associated with his youth, his father's
vagaries, and his family's descent — and he
loved to talk with Mrs. Cogan. She seems
to have understood him vastly well and to
have been otherwise a woman of character.
.JU one of his visits he affectedly groaned at |
the boredom of " a late dinner and dressing
for the opera." Mrs. Cogan ejaculated
" Don't talk such nonsense, Disraeli ; you
know you would not like to live any other
life."
Cogan died at Higham Hill on June 21,
1855, and was interred in a vault in
the burial-ground at The Gravel Pit Chapel,
Hackney, which contained his wife's remains,
she having died on Dec. 1, 1850, at the age
of 81. Me.
" TBIBION," A FRENCH NEOLOGISM. — In
accordance with Amphibia (or Amphibium)
a new term in French has just been sug-
gested by M. H. de Varigny in the ' Journal
des Debats ' du 5 Oct. 1919, Supplement, p. 4,
' Revue des Sciences '), where he fitly
observes : " Nous etions deja Amphibies :
mais depuis la conquete de Fair nous voici
tribions." May not this new scientific
description of " man " as a tribion perhaps
deserve to be admitted and added in future
to the supplement volume of our great
English Thesaurus of the New Dictionary
as well ? H. K.
" SPIDOM^TRE." — In the exciting novel
of Pierre Benoit, ' Koenigsmark,' I note on
p. 277 the word spidometre, with the evident
meaning of speedometer. This is the first
time I have seen this curious French
neologism. DE V. PAYEN-PAYNE.
CHARLES LAMB AND HIS EMPLOYERS AT
THE EAST INDIA HOUSE. — In the famous
essay ' The Superannuated Man ' Lamb
states that his employers were " the house
of Baldero, Merryweather, Bosanquet &
Lacy."
Mr. N. L. Hallward, in his notes to the
edition of the ' Essays ' published in 1900,
states that all the names are fictitious ; and
Mr. E. V. Lucas in his edition likewise says
these names were feigned ones. I have just
met with, in an old Dublin Directory
published by W. Wilson in 1801, a list of
the * Directors and Officers of the East India
Company.' In this list I find that Jacob
Bosanquet of Broxbourn was a director and
a member of the Treasury Committee.
Nowy as Lamb was employed in the accoun-
tants' department, he would doubtless have
direct intercourse with this director who
served on the above committee.
It may be of interest to Lamb students
to know that at least one of the names used
by him was authentic.
ARTHUR W. WATERS.
288
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 S. V. Nov., 1919.
THE STATE COACH. — I infer that in every
work on carriage building and the history of
horse-drawn vehicles this chariot is fully
described. Amongst a certain class of the
curious it is always sought, and a visit to
the royal mews ranks next to an hour at
the waxworks as essentials of sightseeing.
This popular interest has apparently per-
fisted for many years. Before me is a
broadside not dated, but about 1838,
describing very fully " Her Majesty's State
Coach." Evidently it was written and
printed for the Boyal servants to rell,asthe
last line invites the reader to " Enquire for
. . . ." if he desire to see " The most superb
carriage Ever Built." Sir Henry Ellis copied
from a " MS. note in K. G. III. copy
of Fleetwood's ' Chron. Preciosum ' a
note of its cost. I transcribe from his
commonplace book: —
ACCOUNT OF THE EXPENSES OF HIS PRESENT
MAJESTY'S STATE COACH MADE IN THE YEAR 1762.*
Coach maker
Carver
Gilder
Painter
Laceman
Chaser
Harness maker
Mercer
Bit maker
Milliner
Sadler
Woollen Draper
Cover maker
£ s.
d
1673 15
0
2500 0
0
933 14
0
315 0
0
737 10
7
665 4
6
385 15
0
202 5
10
99 6
6
31 3
4
10 16
0
4 3
6
3 9
6
£7,562 3
9
This total is £99 13s. 8d. less than the
cost detailed in 'The Mirror,' March 7, 1835.
ALECK ABRAHAMS.
A THREATENED RIVER BED. — The follow-
ing extract from a recent issue of The Daily
Chronicle may interest readers of * N. & Q.':
" A pleasant old-world bit of the West-end will
probably disappear if Devonshire House is replaced
by a big hotel or blocks of flats— that brick wall
on the west side of Berkeley-street, enclosing the
garden of Devonshire House.
" At the bottom of the garden is Lansdowne-
passage, the curious little sunken passageway which
runs from Berkeley-street to Curzon-street, and
divides the garden of Devonshire House from that
of Lansdowne House. Its history as a boundary
dates from the time when the old Aye Brook or
Tyburn divided the two properties, before winding
its way through the meadows of Mayfair towards
the Thames. When the stream was covered in as
the King's Scholars' Pond sewer, the right-of-way
of the footpath beside it was preserved in Lans-
downe-pas»age.' '
C. J. HERSEY.
JENNER STATUE AT BOULOGNE. — I re-
cently copied the inscriptions from 1 he statue
of Edward Jenner at Boulogne-sur-Mer. The;
statue is of bronze, signed '" E. Paul, 1858,""
and was cast by A. Brochon, of Paris. It
stands on a pedestal of stone. The inscrip-
tions are as follows : —
Front] Ce monument
a 6te eleve" de concert par la villej de
Boulogne-sur-Mer et la Soeiele des
Sciences Industrielles Arts efc Belles-Lettres;
de Paris
en 1'honnenr de
EDWARD JENNER,
auteur de la de"couverte de la vaccine-
II a e'te' inaugure' sonellement le '
11 Septembre, 1865.
M. le Dr Livois, <§tant Maire de Boulogne,
et M. le Dr Mi8 du Planty, President de la*
Socie^e" des Sciences industrielles.
Back] A
EDWARD JENNER,
La France Reconnaissance.
Right] William Woodville,
M6decin de 1'Hopital des Varioleux
de Londres apporta au peuple
Francais malgre" l'6tat de guerre
la d&5ouverte de Jenner et pratiqua
les premieres inoculations h,
Boulogne-sur-Mer le 27 Prairial
An VIII. (19 Juin, 1800).
Le vaccin recueilli par le Dr
Nowel fut envoye" k Paris ou
Woodville 1'inocula de nouveau enr
Therm idor suivant.
The left side of the pedestal is blank.
F. H. CHEETHAM.
Louis XVIII. : MONUMENT AT CALAIS. —
The monument at Calais, which marks the-
spot where the French monarch landed iou
1814, bears the following inscription on, a
bronze tablet. At the bottom of the inscrip-
tion are the royal arms : —
Le 24 Avril 1814.
S. M. LOUIS XVIII.
D6barqua vis-a-vis de cette Colonne
et fut enfin rendue
k 1 'am our des Francais.
Pour perpe'tuer le pouvenir
la ville de Calais
a e"leve" ce monument.
[Arms.]
The column is surmounted by a ball.
Originally it bore a fleur-de-lys, but this was-
removed in 1830. F H. CHEETHAM
EPIGRAM : "A LITTLE GARDEN LITTLE
JOWETT MADE." — This has been variously
attributed to William Lort Mansel ; to
Archdeacon Wrangham ; and to Mr. Horry,
an American (9 S. vii. 405 ; viii. 69 ; 10 S.
vi. 46) ; the ' D.N.B.' stating, sub nom.
Joseph Jowett, that Wrangham " is believed?.
12.8. V. Nov., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUEiUES.
289
to haye written it ; and, sub nom. Francis
' Wrangham, mentioning " the suspicion thai
.he was the author." The same authority
in common with most references in ' N. & Q.,
gives the penultimate line as : —
And if you'd know the mind of little Jowett.
The Georgian Era, vol. i. (1832), says of
Lort Mansel : —
" He wrote a Latin epigram on Dr. Jowett's
improvements on a small strip of land attachec
to his residence of which the following is a
translation " ;
giving the six well-known lines, the last but
one being
And if you'd know the taste of little Jowett.
Wrangham (1769-1842) was a fine classica
scholar, but I do not think he shone in
original epigram, though he translated a
collection ; whilst Mansel (1753-1820), in
his ant e-epsic opal days and before his
mastership of Trinity, " was generally
known as the chief wit and mimic o
academic society" ('D.N.B.'); and may
^well have perpetrated the Jowett epigram
circa 1793. W. B. H.
SUPERPHOSPHATE. — I saw this strange
epitaph in the churchyard of the City
-churches, Aberdeen, the other day : —
"_Sacred to the memory of William Hay, born
1815, died 1894, parish and public schoolmaster,
'Tillydesk, Ellon, 1841 to 1880. He introduced and
gave name to the manure called superphosphate in
(1842.
J. M. BULLOCH.
QUABBYMEN'S TERMS. — A short time
back I found a bill for various qualities of
atones quarried in Herefordshire. All who
know that beautiful county will appreciate
the charm of old stone houses, roofs, and
walls, and some of your readers may care to
learn the names applied to the different
classes of material by the quarrvmen.
The bill is
An account of worke don from ye 31 of July to the
20 of Sept., 1701.
Francis Haines for Hewin.
Barell stones 275 cwt.
Kinderkin stones 37 cwt.
Some stones 180
Firkin stones 360
''Copers ends 1700
Ping 630
'Hogger hedin 18 doz.
"Rase! hedin 34 doz.
'"Sqr. bottoms 5 doz.
Peck bottoms 3 and a half.
Lockstocks 44 doz.
Spoks 2 set.
The greater part of the account is uu-
.iortunately torn away.
J. HARVEY BLOOM,
00
00
00
00
00
02
02
01
02
11
DOUBLE CHRISTIAN NAMES. — Double and
treble Christian names are generally sup-
posed to be late inventions (?) seventeenth
and eighteenth centuries. In the course of
indexing the Clergy Lists of Sussex, however,
we came across a John William Whyttyng,
who was Rector of St. Bartholomew's,
Egdean or Blertham from 1389 to 1428.
J. W. FAWCETT.
Consett, co. Durham.
WE must request correspondents desiring in-
formation on family matters of only private interest
to affix their names and addresses to their queries,
in order that answers may be sent to them direct.
HAMILTON. (See 8 S. xii. 507.) — Some
twenty years ago, a question was asked
in * N. & Q.' about a lady by the name
of Margaret Hamilton, who had been in-
terred in Fulham churchyard and who,
according to the inscription on her tomb,
must have died at the advanced age of 113
years. To this date, the question has been
left unanswered. I have some reasons to
believe that the lady was the widow of
Henry Hamilton, who was lieutenant-
governor of Canada from 1782 to 1785, and
died at Antigua in 1796 as Governor of San
Domingo. In the Canadian Archives, there
is a letter of Mrs. Margaret Hamilton,
written from 11 Lower Sloane Street,
Chelsea, and dated September, 1807. This
letter was addressed to Lord Hillsborough
praying him to receive favourably a petition
of her daughter, Margaret Stuart, who asked
for a pension as the widow of Francis
Lemaistre, former lieutenant-governor of
Gaspe in Canada.- On the other hand, Sir
James Craig, in another letter accompany-
ing the same petition of the widow Lemaistre,
refers to her dependance upon an aged
mother, Mrs. Margaret Cramahe. It appears
as if the lady in question had been married
three times : —
1. To one Stuart, the father of Margaret
who married later Francis Lemaistre.
2. To Hector Theophilus Cramahe, who
was lieutenant-governor of Canada, from
1771 to 1782, and died probably before 1790.
3. To Henry Hamilton, also lieutenant-
governor of Canada and successor to
ramahe.
The inscription on the tomb in Fulham
)hurchyard says that Margaret Hamilton
was born at Geneva, June 2, 1727. Thi ;
date could easily apply to the widow
290
NOTES AND QUERIES. ii2».v.Nov.,i9ifc
Cramahe-Hamilton as she was represented
by Sir James Craig as very old in 1807.
We must also bear in mind that Hector
Theophilus Cramahe was himself a Swiss
by birth like Mrs. Margaret Hamilton
interred in Fulham churchyard. These
facts will probably help in discovering the
identity of the centenarian Mrs. Hamilton.
Any more information about her and
especially about her three supposed husbands
Stuart, Cramahe, and Hamilton would be
most welcome. A. FAUTEUX.
Montreal.
" TOPONYMICS " IN GREAT BRITAIN. — Can
any reader of ' N. & Q.' tell me where to
get a complete list of names derived from
localities in Great Britain, e.g., Londoner,
Oxonian, Aberdonian, Dubliner, &c. ? I
note Novocastrian from Newcastle, Lincolner
(once in seventeenth century) from Lincoln,
but what is a native of Edinburgh called
- Edinburgher, or Edinburrovian, or
Edinburian ? Is a man from Pimlico—
Pimlicite, or from Soho — Sohoan ? I have
not been able to find any paragraph upon
this subject in ' N. & Q.,' save only by
chance, such as United-States-ian, Novo-
castrian. Even such names — I call them
toponymies, cf. patronymics — in English
from places and countries outside England
are welcome, if they are not too well known.
Have such formations as Sydneyite, Clap-
hamite, Bromstedian (cf. Wells' ' The New
Machiavelli '), a certain contemptuous, or, in
some cases, academical meaning ? Is it
possible to 'use "a Novocastrian" just as
"a Newcastle man" ? G. LANGENFELT.
Upsala, Sweden.
DUMB ANIMALS: AN EIGHTEENTH - CEN-
TURY FRIEND. — Against the buttress of the
north-west angle of the church of St. Mary
at Wirksworth in Derbyshire, is a small
brass tablet, bearing the following quaint
inscription : —
" Near this place 'lies the body of Philip
Shallcross, once an Eminent quill driver to the
attorneys of this town ; he died the 17 of Novr.,
1787 ; aged 67. Viewing Philip in a moral light,
the most prominent and remarkable features in his
character were his real and invincible attachment
to dogs and cats, and his unbounded benevolence
toward them as well as toward his fellow creatures.
To the Critic
Seek not to shew the devious paths Phil trode,
Nor draw his frailties from the dread abode ;
In modest sculpture let this tombstone tell
That much esteemed he liv'd, and much regretted
Does any one know of any similar early
epitaph? J. W. FAWCZTT.
Consett, co. Durham.
HENRY WASHINGTON. — Can any reader
enable me to identify a person of this name,,
whose autograph " Hen. Washington " is
inscribed on the title-page and again on,.
Speght's dedicatory letter to Sir Robert
Cecil (afterwards 1st Earl of Salisbury) in
the folio edition of Chaucer's ' Works,'
printed by Geo. Bishop in 1598 ? Thfr
volume has my great-grandfather's book-
plate in it. He died in 1811, and the hand-
writing of the previous owner may be of the
late seventeenth or early eighteenth century..
HERBERT MAXWELL.
Monreith.
' HINTS TO FRESHMEN IN THE UNIVERSITY
OF OXFORD ' : AUTHOR WANTED. — My copy
of this little pamphlet (Oxford, published by
J. Vincent, 1853) bears " Third edition " on,
the paper cover. It, contains the prefaces
to the first and second editions, neither dated,
but the second consists almost wholly of a
letter professing to be from " Frank Law-
less," and dated " Mitre Inn, Oxford,
Hilarious Term, 1846."
If all the parodies in the third edition
appeared in the first, its first appearance was
after 1844 ; see Parody VIII., beginning :• —
'T is the last weed of Hudson's
Left lying alone.
The preliminary note speaks of the author
as graduating in 1844.
ROBERT PIERPOINT.
"NEY": TERMINAL TO SURNAMES, &c. —
I would be obliged for information in regard'
to the meaning of the terminal "ney" in
surnames and others, such as Macartney,
Chasney, Furney, Romney, Stepney &c..
Does it not signify "native."? It is the-
origin and meaning of the surname Macart-
ney that I wish to clear up.
J. LOVE.
13 Lauderdale Street, Preston.
REV. THOMAS AUBREY. (See ante, p. 200. ^
— His grave is opposite the porch on south
side of Bredwardine Church, and the recum-
bent tombstone (badly cracked) bears thfr
following inscription : —
"Reader observe here under neatb doth lye one
that [ was once Rector of Brobury i Vicar of Bred-
wardine and if | you trace | Hi? Birth a Briton
but of | Norman Race | Profoundly learned and
I a man of parts | Bred up in Oxford Mr | of the
Arts | His name was Thomas | Aubrey now in the
dust | Waiting the Resurrection i of the Just. He
dyed the 22nd day of May, 1707 | Aged 59 years."
In 1681 (1690 according to Duiicomb-
Cooke, p. 41) Mr. Aubrey came into posses-
sion of one moiety of the manor of Brobury
by transfer from. Geo.. Skipp of Ledbury
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291
Mr. Savaker (according to Duncomb-Cooke) ;
this appears to have been sold before the
end of the seventeenth century, and the
manor became part of the Garnons Estate
owned by Sir John Cottrell, Bart. I should
be glad of any further information about
this " Mr. of the Arts."
H. F. B. COMPSTON.
Bredwardine Vicarage, Hereford.
JOHN BELL.— About 1736, Elizabeth
Robinson married John Bell, described in
Dugdale's ' Visitation of Yorkshire ' (vide
The Genealogist, 1903, vol. xx. p. 188) as
" of Scarborough." It was, perhaps, his
granddaughter who married John Beswick
of Gristhorpe before 1825 (Burke's 'Landed
Gentry '). Is anything known of John
Bell, or of his family or descendants ? In
what parish of Scarborough did he live ?
B.
BLACKSTONE : THE REGICIDE. — Is any-
thing known as to his fate at the Restora-
tion, and as to whether he left any de-
scendants ? Judging from the impression
of his seal attached to the death warrant
he was of the ancient Durham family of that
name. B.
ALLEYNE OR ALLEN. — I should be grateful
for any information about the following boys
of this name, who were educated at West-
minster School : —
(1) Thomas, admitted 1723, aged 13.
(2) Abel, admitted 1730, aged 8.
(3) Bernard, admitted 1731, aged 10.
(4) John, admitted 1715, aged 13.
(5) John, admitted 1736, aged 11.
(6) John, admitted 1749, aged 16.
(7) Reynold, admitted 1715, aged 15.
(8) William, admitted in 1775.
G. F. R. B.
JOHN NORCROSS. — In Swedish-Danish his-
tory during some years after 1716 there
figures an English freebooter and captain in
the Swedish service, by name John Norcross.
According to his own biography, written
and printed in Denmark, 1761 and 1786, he
was born in 1688 ; his father was George
Norcross and his mother a Rigby. The
father was at this time with James II. in
Ireland and followed him back to France.
The son, our Xorcross, brought himself, as
he says, up to a captain in the English navy,
after many adventures in the East Indies,
&c. ; but had as a Jacobite to seek safety
in flight, and went to Sweden in 1716,
where he made himself a very unenviable
reputation as a captain and robber during
Carl XII. 's war with his many foes.
Is there anything written or known in
England about him before 1716 or after
1721, when he seems to have been with the
Jacobites in France ? Lord Carteret speaks
of him as with the Swedish ambassador
in England. I shall be thankful for any
answer or communication on the matter.
C. SPRINCHORN, Dr. Phil.
Lund, Sweden.
FOUR ROYAL RIVERS OF SCOTLAND. —
Which are they, and why are they called so ?
(Miss) E. W. PATERSON.
27 Queen's Crescent, Maytield, Edinburgh.
PATRICK BRADY. — Could any of your
readers give information about the family
of Patrick Brady, scholar of Trinity College,
Dublin (B.A., 1796), whose son John Brady
was in the Irish Excise Office and died in
London in 1848 ? A brother or relative
of Patrick emigrated to the United States
about 1820-30, and' died at Albion, Illinois,
United States about 1860. The family was
related to a Sir John Brady. Who was he ?
R. B. C. SHERIDAN.
Russell House, West Kensington Gardens.
AUTHOR OF ANTHEM WANTED. — Who was
the author of the words of Farrant s
anthem, "Lord, for thy tender mercy's sake,
lay not our sins to our charge." In the
Cathedral anthem book it is merely headed
'A Prayer.' F. ARMITAGE.
Law Society's Hall, Chancery Lane, VV.C.
CANTRELL FAMILY : INFORMATION
WANTED. — The Rev. Thomas Cantrell, M.A.,
sometime Master of Derby Grammar School,
who died in 1700.
William Cantrell, bookseller, Derby, who
married the daughter of John Blackwall
(son of Rev. Anthony Backwall and his
second wife, Thomas Cantrell's widow).
The Rev. William Cantrell, b. 1716, son
of Henry and grandson of Thomas Cantrell.
I should be glad of any information what-
ever, but especially facts relating to their
ancestors and descendants.
L. C. BARRY.
78 Cherryhinton Road, Cambridge.
'CoBDEN: A BAGMAN.' — Was ' Cobden :
a Bagman wit^h a Calico Millennium,' by
Carlyle, and, if so, in which of his works can
it be found ? C. R. FAY, M.A.
" PETERLOO." — What is the earliest use
of the word " Peterloo " to denote the
tumult at St. Peter's Fields, Manchester, on
Aug. 16, 1816 ? C. R. FAY, M.A.
Christ's College, Cambridge.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 s. v. NOV., 1919.
'ADESTE FIBELES.' — In Julian's 'Dic-
tionary of Hymnology,' the date of this
hymn is given as " probably seventeenth or
eighteenth century." In Rabelais' s ' Gar-
gantua ' I. xli. (c. 1540), the monk is made
to finish off a conversation with " Venite
apotemus," which seems more than an
accidental allusion to the refrain " Venite
adoremus." Can any of your readers throw
light on this ? JOHN MURRAY.
50 Albemarle Street, W.I.
MISSING PARISH REGISTER WANTED. —
I should be very glad if any of your readers
can tell me whether the earlier registers of
the parish of Philleigh in Cornwall are still
in existence, and if so where. They have
none at Philleigh earlier than 1733. A
seventeenth-century register seems to have
.been in existence only fifty years ago.
E. W. H. F.
HENRY NEPEAN OF LAUNCESTON. — This
man married at St. Stephen's, Launceston.
Frances Dodge, in 1683. His will is dated
1739, and he died the following year.
Tradition says that he was born in 1660.
Can any of your readers help me to
verify the place and date of his birth and to
trace his parentage ?
The name is variously spelt Napean,
Nampean, Nanspian, &c., and has been
found in Cornwall in 1641, but only at St.
Keverne, St. Just in Penwith, Stythians
Gerrans and Philleigh. E. W. H. F.
MELKART'S STATUE. — Larousse Diction*
ary says, a statue of Melkart (the Tyrian-
Hercules) was transported from Carthage
to Rome in 146 to adorn the temple of
nations. Can any reader of classics give me
historic reference or evidence of this ?
D. W. YOUNG.
MARAZION. — What is the origin of this
place-name ? I have heard that it is
connected with the Jewish slaves employed
by the Romans in the neighbouring tin-
mines. J. LANDFEAR LUCAS.
Glendora, Hindhead, Surrey.
ENSIGN OLIVER CROMWELL. — Can any
one genealogically find a place for Oliver
Cromwell, gent., who was made " Ensign
of that Company whereof William Drum-
mond, Esq., is captain in the room of Charles
Streeke in the Regiment of Foot commanded
by Lord John Kerr, Aug. 1, 1727 (Irish Com.
Regs.)." This was the old 31st Foot
stationed in Ireland for many years at that
period. This Oliver either died, or retired
soon, for Charles Whitefoord was made
" Ensn. to Capt. Willm. Drummond in room
of Oliver Cromwel, Jan. 29, 1728 " (sic,
rightly 1728/9). Who, again, was Cromwell
Price who was cornet in Bowles's 12th
Dragoons, May 12, 1728, till succeeded by
Nicholas Price, Jan. 1, 1730/1 ?
W. R. WILLIAMS.
Talybont, Brecon.
THREE CRIPPLES, FIELD LANE. — Was this
an actual sign ( ' Oliver Twist ' ) ? There is a
Three Crutches near Gad's Hill.
J. ARDAGH.
ALEXANDER. — Any particulars of
Alexander, merchant in Athlone, circa 1750,
or his descendants, are required. He is said
to have been connected with the Pirns.
J. ARDAGH.
49 Nansen Road, Lavender Hill, S.W.ll.
STEPHEN HOPKINS : DAVY MICHELL :
THOMAS COTESMORE. — In the course of
1569, during the vacancy of the see of
Chichester, Archbishop Parker made a
metropolitical visitation of the diocese by a
commissary, of which an account is to be
found in P.R.O., S.P. Dom.,Eliz. Ix. 71. In
the course of this account it is stated that
these three priests " are fostered in gentle-
men's houses, and run between Sussex and
Hampshire, and are hinderers of true religion,
and do not minister."
Stephen Hopkins was educated at Eton,
and at King's College, Cambridge, of which
latter College he was at one time Vice-
Provost. He took the degree of M.A. in
1539, and subsequently that of B.D. He
became Rector of West Wrrotham, Kent, in
1551, and of East Wrotham in 1556, but was
deprived of these livings early in Queen
Elizabeth's reign and committed to the
Fleet. In S.P. Dom. Add. Eliz., xi. 45, he
is referred to thus : —
" Stephen Hopkyns, clerk, confessor (as he saith)
to the bishop of Aquila [i.e. Alvaro de Quadra,
Spanish Ambassador], and a daily resorter unto
him. He was delivered out of the Fleet by the
Queen's Majesty's express commandment to the
Lord of Canterbury."
Is it known when he died ?
Is anything known about Davy Michell ?
Thomas Cotesmore was born in Sussex, and
was ordained acolyte at Oxford in December,
1553. He was probably already a priest
when he became rector of Poynings, Sussex,
in 1554, where he was succeeded after de-
privation in 1560. He took the degree of
B.A. at Oxford in 1556, and was at one time
chaplain to Thomas, 9th Earl De la Warr.
Some time after 1569 he fled abroad, but
returned to England in 1580 and was
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captured at Arundel, and imprisoned at
Westminster, in the Gatehouse, July, 1580.
He was still there in April, 1584. He pro-
bably died in prison in 1590. (Cf. Chetham
Society's Publ., vol. iv., pp. Ixxxi, Ixxxii.)
JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.
ARMS ON STONE ENTABLATURE. — I should
be very grateful if any one could tell me to
what Hampshire family the following arms
belonged : Vair, Crest, on a torse a bear's head
couped, helmet and mantlings. In the upper
corners of the stone are the initials I. C. or
J. C. Date probably fifteenth or sixteenth
century. The property, Tylney Hall, at
one time belonged to Earl Tylney.
LEONARD C. PRICE.
Essex Lodge, Ewell.
THOMAS BAILLIE. — I seek genealogical
details of the ancestry and marriage of
Thomas Baillie of the East India Company's
Service, Bengal Presidency, who was a cadet
in 1764, ensign in August, 1766, captain
Dec. 4, 1772, and died Feb. 25, 1799 ; also of
Thomas Baillie, surgeon, 1793, in Ross-shire
Buffs (Scotch Regiment of Foot). He died
in 1806. Also of a Colonel Thomas Baillie,
who died in India between 1800 and 1825.
Is it possible that one of them was a son of
Thomas Baillie, a collateral of Lamington,
by his wife Miss Gordon ?
JAMES SETON-ANDERSON.
4 Temple Street, Brighton.
JOHN WILLIAM FLETCHER. — This per-
sonage for a time was at the head of Lady
Huntington's theological college at Trefecca,
Breconshire, but left on account of his
Arminian views. He was on terms of
cordial intimacy and corresponded with the
Wesley s. Was he related to the saintly
Rev. John Fletcher of Madeley ? Gleaned
knowledge will be esteemed.
ANEURIN WILLIAMS.
Menai View, North Road, Carnarvon.
WILSON OF WESTMORLAND AND CUMBER-
LAND.— Thomas Wilson, a member of this
family, migrated to Ireland in 1654, having
married Mary Bewley of Woodhal . Is there
any pedigree of the family extant which
shows his name ? He was at Dacre in
Cumberland, apparently, before his migra-
tion. Was Joseph Wilson, called to the
Irish Bar, Hilary Term, 1792 (B.A. of
Trinity College, Dublin, 1788), his great-
grandson ? Where can I find information
regarding the Wilson family of Edenderry,
King's County, Ireland ?
H. WILBERFORCE-BELL.
21 Park Crescent, Oxford.
UNFINISHED ELEVENTH - CENTURY LAW
CASE. — In Sir Mountstuart Grant Duff's
' Diary ' (1889-1891), vol. i., p. 219, it is
stated that Mr. Elton told him that he was
then (February, 1890) engaged in a case not
yet finished which had begun in the days of
William Rufus. The question then turned
upon the right to lands in the county of
Durham. Can any one supply further
particulars ? LAWRENCE PHILLIPS.
Lichfield
CRUSADERS' NAMES. — The query in your
September issue (p. 236) raises the hope
that some reader may know if any list exists
of those who accompanied Bishop Peter
de Rupibus of Winchester and Bishop
William Briwer of Exeter on the Crusade
during which they were absent from their
dioceses for nearly five years, 1228—1233.
Are there any such lists preserved at Rome ?
HUGH R. WATKIN.
Torquay.
ARMY OFFICERS' OBITUARY, 1727-60:
MURRAY : COLVILLE. — Are there any works
or lists of monumental inscriptions, that
would give any references to army officers
who died between the years 1727 and 1760,
in America or the West Indies, especially in
Jamaica, during the Carthagena expedition,
1741-42, and subsequent campaigns in
America. For instance, can any one say
who was the Lord Edward Murray pre-
sumed to have died in Jamaica (query the
exact date) in 1734 ; or give the precise date
of death of John, 7th Lord Colville during
the Carthegena expedition of 1741 ?
W. R. WILLIAMS.
PSEUDONYMS. — I shall be glad if any of
your readers can give me the names of •the
authors who have used the following initials
and pseudonyms : —
An Officer of the Royal Artillery. — ' From Sedan
to Saarbruck.' 1870.
H. S.— ' Ceylon.' 1876.
A Russian Lady. — ' Is Russia wrong ? ' 1877.
An Old Punjaubee. — ' The Punjaub and North-
West Frontier of India.' 1878.
Vladimir.—' The China- Japan War.' 1896.
A German Staff Officer. — ' The Greco-Turkish
War of 1897.' 1898.
A Real Paddy.—' Real Life in Ireland.' 1904.
Dragonof. — ' Macedonia and the Reforms.' 1908.
O. E. — ' Iron Times with the Guards.' 1918.
Bartimeus. — ' Naval Occasions.' 1918.
ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
DAGGLE MOP. — In what county in Eng-
land is this term given to the last week of
the annual village wake, to which servants
from all parts of the country come to be
hired ': I. L. D.
294
NOTES AND QUERIES. 12 s. v. NOV., 1919.
CHURCH BRIEFS. — Is there any published
work dealing with church briefs ? Is there
any printed catalogue of the briefs in the
British Museum, or in Lambeth Palace
Library. I. F.
THOMAS GREENWELL. — A person of this
name is said to have been editor of " a well-
known periodical " in the eighties. What
more is known of him, and what was the
name of the periodical ? B — D.
PANNAG. — Can any philological student
give the correct explanation of the Hebrew
word pannag which occurs in the Book of
Ezekiel xxvii. 17 ? E. S. B.
HOMELAND, ST. ALBANS. — A central por-
tion of the city of St. Albans is known as
Homeland, and a thoroughfare running
through it is described in the local directory
as Homeland Hill. When and how did this
name arise ? J. LANDFEAR LUCAS.
Glendora, Hindhead, Surrey.
SIMCO'S MIDDLESEX MONUMENTS. — John
Simco, bookseller and print dealer of Air
Street, had prepared, a large number of
drawings of monuments, inscriptions, tombs,
and mural tablets in the churches, &c., of
the environs of London. P. Weddell made
a vast collection of pencil sketches from
which these drawings were elaborated.
They occurred for sale at Sotheby's, Jan. 17,
1823, on the realization of Simco's stock,
and many copies had been used to extra
illustrate Lysons's 'Environs.' To col-
lectors of London iconography they are
quite familiar, but I seek information about
the publications which they gave rise to,
viz., Simco's ' Middlesex Monuments.'
Apparently this was a quarto, each part
containing six plates, and only two parts
were published, a remarkable coincidence
with Bowack, its earlier prototype. The
Comerford Library contained these two
parts bound in one volume, which in 1888
was offered for sale by that excellent topo-
graphical bookseller, Henry Gray then of 47
Liecester Square. ALECK ABRAHAMS.
BOYER FAMILY. — I should be grateful
for information with regard to the relation-
ship (if any) of the following Boyers : —
1. Peter Boyer, who came over at the
Revocation of the Edict of Nantes, was
naturalised, and became a distiller at King
Street, St. Giles. His son, Abraham, of St.
Botolph's, Aldgate, citizen and cooper, was
father of the Rev. James Boyer, born 1736,
the Upper Master of Christ's Hospital (1776-
99). immortalized by Charles Lamb.
2. Peter Boyer, minister of the gospel and
author of ' History of Vaudois,' 1692.
3. Abel Boyer (1667- 1729). The ' D.N.B.'
states that he was born at Castres, Upper
Languedoc ; that he left France for Holland
with an uncle, a noted Huguenot preacher,
and came to London in 1689. He translated
Racine's ' Iphigenie,' and published a
' Dictionnaire Royal Fran?ais et Anglais '
in 1702. He died at Chelsea in 1729.
Was Peter Boyer (2), the author of the
' History of the Vaudois,' the uncle of
Abel, and were they (or either of them)
related to Peter (1), the grandfather of Rev.
James Boyer ? J. R. H.
ROYAL GROOMS. — Will some reader kindly
tell me what the difference was between
Valettus Regis and Valettus Corone Regis in
1431, or anything bearing on the office of
these grooms of the royal establishment ?
J. HARVEY BLOOM.
WILLIAM COPE. — He was born before
1670 in Ireland ; died 1715. Where was he
educated ? MRS. COPE.
Finchampstead Place, Berks.
CAPT. ROBERT BOYLE: BRITISH
PRIVATEER. — At a curio-shop in a remote
provincial town I picked up " Voyages and
Adventures of Captain Robert Boyle, in
Several Parts of the World, Intermixed
with the Story of Mistress Villars, an
English Lady, with whom he made his
surprising Escape from Barbary. .. .De-
scribing Various and Amazing Turns of
Fortune." Can any reader tell me who
was really the author or the adapter
of this Defoe -like story of a London
apprentice-boy who became the captain of
a privateer which roved, with astonishing
profit, on both sides of the Spanish America,
in the earliest eighteenth century ?
NOVICE.
SLANG TERMS : ORIGIN or. — In ' Letters
from England,' Don Manuel Alvarez Estriella
(London : Longman, Hurst, Rees & Orme,
Paternoster Row, 1808), vol. i. p. 220, the
author says that the origin of the term
*' please the pigs " is " please the Pix,"
and that the expressions, " the deuce,"
"the Lord Harry," "the living jingo,"
" Gor," and " Goles " were pagan divinities
whom the early English Celts probably
worshipped. Is this Spanish imagination,
or was some playful Teuton pulling the
gentleman's leg ?
(Canon) E. R. NEVILL.
Dunedin, N.Z.
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FBEMLAND, ESSEX, AND GUNPOWDER
PLOT. — In ' A History of the Gunpowder
Plot,' by Philip Sidney, p. 212, it says :
" Baynham seems to have been sent to Rome
:as the result of the deliberations of Garnet,
Catesby and Mounteagle, when meeting
together at Fremland (Essex) in July,
1605." Where is Fremland, Essex ?
G. H. W.
"XiT": WHO WAS HE? — Mr. Austin
Knight sketched a statue of him in 1918 at
the "Hollands," Langton, near Tunbridge
Wells. There is another image similar at
Felixstowe ; also, there was a third sold at
an auction sale, I believe, in Lewes in 1918.
Any information beyond this I should
greatly appreciate. W. WILLS CLINTON.
126 Inchmery Road, Catford, S.E.6.
BELL TAVERN, BROAD STREET, BRISTOL. —
' Bristol, Past and Present,' says it was
built in 1569 by John Willis, the Chamber-
lain, and Latimer records that it was
accidentally burnt down in 1672. Other
particulars would be thankfully received.
The exact site is specially desired.
WM. SANIGAR.
205 Avon Vale Road, Barton Hill, Bristol.
"TRANSLATIONS WANTED. — Where can I
obtain reliable translations of the following ?
« Book of Adam n ; ' Book of Enoch ' ;
* Secrets of Enoch ' ; ' Great Announce-
ment,' Simon Magus; 'Strometeis,' Cle-
mens Alexandrinus ; Writings of Philo,
Origen, Irenaeus, Papias, Eusebius.
J. SHAKESPEAR, Lieut. -Col.
14 Alexandra Court, Maida Vale, W.9.
J. J. KLEINSCHMIDT. — I have several
engravings by this engraver. Who was he ?
They contain in one or two cases some
writing in what is apparently old German,
and appear to be at least two hundred years
old. H. W. B.
"Now THEN ! "—What is the earliest
known case of these two adverbs being used
together in the sense which they now bear ?
H. W. B.
GEORGE SHEPHERD appears to have
belonged to a family of artists who did topo-
graphical work. There are many water
colours of old London buildings executed
by him during the earlier years of the
nineteenth century (about 1800-30), and
they are good records. Thomas Hosmer
Shepherd did a vast number of topographical
•drawings of a similar kind between, say, 1820
and 1855, some of them are in the Grace
Collection, B.M. Were they father and son ?
Perhaps some reader of ' N. & Q.' could
kindly tell me. Redgrave's 'Dictionary of
Artists of the English School ' throws no light
on the subject. George's surname is occa-
sionally spelt Shepheard. PHILIP NORMAN.
GAVELACRE : PLACE-NAME.— Can any of
your correspondents kindly help me in the
following matter ?
I have some property in Hampshire, on
the river Test, part of which (including the
house) is called Gavelacre. What is the
meaning and origin of this name, which
dates back to mediaeval times ? It has
of late frequently been transformed into
Gravelacre, but this is an obvious corruption.
All the old documents spell it Gavelacre, and
a large shallow on Bransbury Common, just
below my land, is locally called Galacro
Shallow.
Could the name have any connexion with
the law of Gavelkind — which, however,
does not prevail in, Hampshire — or with
" gavel," an old name for an auctioneer's
hammer ? . I should be grateful for any
suggestion. R. K. HODGSON.
War thill, Aberdeenshire.
DAVID POWELL. (See 10 S. x. 125.) — Who
was the David Powell, an English priest at
Brussels, who was in receipt of 121 florins
a year from Philip II. about 1575 ? See
' Messager des Sciences Historiques ' (Gand,
1865), p. 286 note.
JOHN B. WAINE WRIGHT.
AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED. —
1. Can any one kindly tell me where the words
quoted below are to be found? I believe they are
by Rossetti, but cannot find them in my edition
of his works.
If you were April's lady.
And I were Lord in May,
We 'd throw for Spring with flow'rs,
If you were April's lady,
Arid I were Lord in May.
Bath. C. LINCOLN.
2. Know'st thou not their language and their
ways? ROLAND AUSTIN.
Gloucester Public Library.
3. Thoreau concludes chap. viii. of Walden ( * The
Village') with this passage between quotation
marks :
" You who govern public affairs, what need have
you to employ punishments ? Love virtue, and the
people will be virtuous. The virtues of a superior
man are like the wind tlie virtues of a common
man are like the grass ; the grass, when the wind
passes over it, bends."
Can any of your readers tell me the author ?
F. PAGE.
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[12 8. V. Nov., 1919.
COORG STATE:
STRANGE TALE OF A PRINCESS.
(12 S. v. 264.)
THE history of this princess is very interesting
and well authenticated. The account quoted
by the querist is incorrect in many important
details, and the only mystery in the case
was the fate of Col. C.
Princess Gouramma, daughter of the
ex-Rajah of Coorg, who was born in 1841,
had been adopted, in accordance with her
father's earnest wishes, by Queen Victoria
and placed by her under the charge of Mrs.
Drummond, who, however, in a few years'
time found she did not like the responsibility
and begged to be relieved-
Sir Charles Phipps, Queen Victoria's
Comptroller of the Household, then applied
to my mother, the late Lady Arthur Lennox,
to know whether she would undertake to
replace her, and in August and September
of the year 1852 the Rajah came to see her
several times in Hans Place, first of all with
a Mr. Ramsay and afterwards with his
interpreter, and he also brought the little
princess to see us. I have a distinct recol
lection of her ; we were all charmed with her
and thought her very pretty. Her mother
was of Circassian descent and she had in-
herited her looks. She was in Indian dress
and had on many jewels, chiefly pearls,- and
a bracelet given by Queen Victoria. I have a
little picture of her in full dress.
My mother wisely thought the responsi
bility too great as she had a young family o1
her own and refused the offer, greatly to
the disappointment of myself and sisters.
Lady Login, one of the old Scotch family —
the Campbells of Kinloch — and wife of the
well-known Sir John Login of Indian fame
then undertook the charge, greatly to
Queen Victoria's satisfaction, and to the
happiness and welfare of the little princess
Queen Victoria always took the greatesl
interest in her and was anxious that she
should marry the late Dhuleep Singh ; but
although this did not meet with his ideas,
he helped to promote her marriage with his
friend Col. Campbell, Lady Login's brother,
which marriage took place in 1860. Col.
Campbell was a handsome man, and very
popular and the union was quite the reverse
of " unhappy," the only drawback being the
princess's health ; she was always delicate
>nd her short-term of happiness ended in,
1864, when she died of consumption at the
age of 23. Their daughter never " dis-
appeared " and was not " secretly mur-
dered." In obedience to her dying mother's^
ast request, which met with the full approval'
of Queen Victoria, she was brought up by
Lady Login, and in 1882, when she was 21,
she married Capt. H. G. Yardley. I know
nothing further about her and have of tea
wished that I did.
The mystery about Col. Campbell was as
'ollows : Less than three years after his
wife's death he left his lodging in JermyEi
Street one day, carrying a small hand-bag,,
and from that day to this no trace of him
was said to have been found. Unfortunately,
Lady Login, who had seen him three days
before, did not hear that he was missing for
some time and, I believe, it was nearly three
months before the case was put into the
hands of the police, who had no doubt that
it was foul play for plunder. His wife's
jewels disappeared at the same time and it
seemed probable that they were in the
hand-bag that he was carrying.
Amongst the published letters of Queen
Victoria is one to Lord Dalhousie alluding
to the proposed marriage of the Princess of
Coorg, and Her Majesty writes : " Though still
childish for her age (she is nearly 14), she is
pretty, lively, intelligent, and going on
satisfactorily in her education." This was
written in 1854. CONSTANCE RUSSEKL.
Swallowfield, Reading.
The marriage of Princess Victoria Gour-
amma of Coorg is referred to in ' Sir John
Login and Duleep Singh,' by Lady Login,
The princess married Col. John Campbell,
Madras Army, brother of Lady Login, and
died in 1864, aged 23. It should not be
difficult to find an account of Col. C.'s dis-
appearance— perhaps ' The Times Indexes
subsequent to 1864 will help. It is news tc
me that the child also disappeared. Appar
ently she was left in Lady Login's care.
A. J. ABBUTHNOT.
8 Albert Court, Kensington, S. W.7.
The strange tale is told also in the 'En
cyclopaedia Britannica,' s.v. ' Coorg.' Ii
The Gentleman's Magazine for May, 1864, is
recorded the death on Mar. 30, at the house o
her husband, Col. John Campbell, in Georg<
Street, Port man Square, of Her Highnesi
the Princess Victoria Gouramma of Coorg
god-daughter of the Queen, and an accoun
of her life from The Morning Post is appended
JOHN B. WAINEWBIGHT.
12 8. V Nov... 1919
NOTES AND QUERIES.
297
JOHN WILSON, BOOKSELLER (12 S. v. 237,
277).— In answer to MR. OSCAR BERRY'S
note, I should gladly welcome any con-
clusive solution of this long-vexed question.
.Meanwhile, I must beg leave to refer him
to the statement of a valued contributor
to these columns, MR. WM. JAGGARD, who,
.at 10 S. iv. 229 ("O, for a Booke ") says
that he transcribed the lines referred to
from a collection of early English poems
,and ballads of which he retained no record,
and that he sent them to Mr. Ireland " for
^inclusion in his ' Enchiridion,' " where they
appear. The collection mentioned has not
been traced; and, as the "obscurity sur-
rounding the printed source " is conceded
by MR. JAGGARD, I submit that, in the
-circumstances, the claim of Mr. John Wilson,
as presented by me at 10 S. ix. 192, and
repeated in 'A Bookman's Budget,' 1917,
rpp. 105—6, at least deserves consideration,
though I am open to conviction.
I learn from a Brooklyn correspondent,
Mr. R. Kleiner, that the lines have been
ascribed, in America, to the ingenious Mr.
Eugene Field, who, "in the late eighties,"
printed them in The Chicago Morning News.
The " late eighties," however, would be after
the date of the ' Enchiridion,' 1882.
They also figure in another book-plate,
"being "worked into the background of the
"beautiful and elaborate example designed
fay Mr. Hugh Thomson for Mr. Ernest
Brown, a facsimile of which is given at
p. Ill of my ' De Libris,' Macmillan, 1908.
AUSTIN DOBSON.
Possibly I can shed a little light on the
quotation under notice : " O for a booke,
and a shadie nooke," as I supplied it, with
several others, to Alexander Ireland, in or
about 1881, and I still have, I fancy, some
letters from him on the subject, but being
over a hundred miles from home I must rely
.for the moment upon memory.
The verses were repeatedly used by my
antiquarian friend, the late Thomas Simmons,
/upon the titles of his lists of old books, in the
late seventies and eighties of the last century.
He also used them, printed in red and black,
on his invoices at that time. During ten
years (1881-91) I supplied Simmons with
.some hundreds, or thousands, of bookish
.quotations, used as running headlines on
;the pages of his frequent catalogues. I have
the impression he told me he obtained the
quotation under review from a fragment of
an Elizabethan book of verse he purchased,
in a very large collection of black-letter
'.books, about 1878 or 1879, from one of the
tall houses at the top of Newbold Terrace
Leamington. When I get access to my
collection I can give the exact year Simmons
first published the verses, which date may
settle whether he or Wilson first printed
them in modern years.
If the composition is as old as it purports,
the spelling obviously places its original date
as 1592, or earlier, rather than anywhere so
late as 1670. W- JAGGARD, Capt.
Central Registry, Repatriation Records,
Winchester.
NEW COLLEGE, OXFORD : HEREDITARY
SCHOLARSHIP (12 S. v. 118). — OBSERVER
cites the instance of two members of the
Haldane family, father and son, being
fellows of the same college, and states that
he is not aware of any other similar in-
stance. The sister University, Cambridge,
supplies a still more remarkable instance
of hereditary scholarship, one extending over
three successive generations, which, I think,
may well be a record. In my somewhat
lengthy account of the Rev. Robert Uvedale,
LL.D., the well-known seventeenth-century
scholar and botanist, in ' N. & Q.' 12 S.
ii. 361, et seq., I drew attention to the fact
that he obtained the law fellowship of
Trinity College, Cambridge, in competition
with Mr. Newton (afterwards Sir Isaac),
and that his son Robert was also a
fellow of the same college and D.D. of that
University, and that his grandson, the third
Robert and cleric in succession, held the
same distinctions. The holding of these
fellowships in the same college, for three
successive generations from father to son,
is an instance of hereditary scholarship,
I think, unlikely to be surpassed.
I may add that his great - grandson,
another clerical Robert, was also a member
of Trinity College, Cambridge, though not a
fellow of that college.
J. S. UDAL, F.S.A.
THAMES TUNNELS (12 S. v. 181).— I have
in my possession a very curious coloured
transparency of the ' Brunei's Tunnel.' It
is contained in a wooden box of perhaps
one foot diameter, with an elongated ex-
tension, terminating in an orifice to look
through, with a lens, which gives a very fine
view, in perspective, of the transparency
of the tunnel when the slide at the end of
the box is removed, and the box held before
a light or a window. The view of the tunnel
is painted in colours on a removable slide.
It shows a man on horseback and a peasant
in the space for vehicles, and a couple of the
gentry walking on the raised side-walk — all,
298
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 S. V. Nov , 1919.
of course, in the costume of that period.
It is really beautiful as well as curious. It
was brought to America by my grandfather,
Samuel Doggett, on one of his trips to
England and Scotland in 1831 and. 1837,
together with many other interesting articles.
Accompanying it is a curious little book
(5£ in. by 4 in.), with the following title : —
" Sketches of the works for the tunnel under the
Thames from Rotherhithe to Wapping. Published
by Messrs. Harvey and Barton, 55 Graceohurch
Street ; and C. Tilt, St. Bride's Avenue, 86 Fleet
Street. Printed by the Philanthropic Society, St.
George's Fields, 1829.
It contains engravings and folding sketches
and maps, and cost 2s. 6d. I have also a
large single sheet descriptive of the tunnel,
dated March, 1841, and another small single
sheet dated 1827, both illustrated with
woodcuts. I would be pleased to furnish
further information if desired.
WILLIAM F. CRAFTS.
69 Cypress Street, Brookline, Massachusetts.
An account of the proposed tunnel in 1798
from Gravesend to Tilbury is given in R. P.
Cruden's ' History of Gravesend,' pp. 456-65.
It contains the detailed estimates of Dodd,
the originator, as to the cost of the tunnel,
gives the names of the committee formed,
particulars of the Act of Parliament obtained,
and an account of the experiments and the
cause of the failure of the concern. Clarke's
criticisms are also alluded to. The last
report made to the proprietors was presented
at a meeting on March 3, 1803, and the last
annual election of the committee took place
in 1806. G. H. W.
CAPT. B. GRANT (12 S. v. 238).— In the
index of ' The Waterloo Roll Call,' by Charles
Dalton, 1890, there is no mention of B.
Grant. (The index of ' The Roll Call '
concerns officers only.) Nor does he appear
in the indexes of the Army Lists of 1811 and
1816. However, in that of 1834, p. 260,
there is Bernard Grant, ensign in the 71st
(Highland) Regiment — date of commission,
Dec. 28, 1832. His name bears the mark
of the Waterloo Medal. In the 1842 List,
p. 278, he appears, with the said mark, as
quarter-master of the 82nd Regiment, date
of commission Aug. 28, 1835 ; the date of
his ensign's commission in the army as above.
From the above it may, I think, be
assumed that at the battle of Waterloo he
was in the ranks. J. H. Stocqueler, in his
' Military Encyclopaedia,' 1853, writes : " The
quartermaster is almost invariably pro-
lioted from the ranks, having risen through
the various non-commissioned grades to the
rank of quartermaster-serjeant or serjeant-
major." There are nine Grants in the
index of * The Waterloo Roll Call,' of whom
none has a Christian name with the initial B.
Of these Sir Colquhoun Grant, Staff, lieut.-
colonel, 15th Light Dragoons, and Capt.
Wm. Alex. Grant, 71st Regiment, are marked
" Wounded," and Capt. Wm. Charles Grant,
92nd Regiment, " Killed." Also, p. 226 of
the ' Roll Call,' in the short list of ' Non-
commissioned Officers at Waterloo who
afterwards recehred Commissions,' is Charles
Grant, 23rd Regiment, " severely wounded
at Quatre Bras whilst serving in the ranks,
Was Acting Quarter-Master to the Grenadiei
Guards in Canada in 1838-39. Appointed
Quarter-Master to the 23rd Welsh Fusiliers,
July 5, 1844. Retired on half pay with rank
of captain in 1854," &c.
If this Charles Grant was a private (all
the others in the list are non-commissioned
officers) it is strange that Bernard Grant,
who must have been either a non-com-
missioned officer or a private, is omitted,
Whether Quarter-Master Bernard Grant re-
tired with rank of captain I do not know.
ROBERT PIERPOINT.
REFERENCES TO WORKS WANTED (12 S,
v. 265). — See J. A. Fabricius, ' Bibliotheca
Latina mediae et infimse aetatis,' torn, iii.j
p. 203, col. 1, under ' Henricus de Hassia,
senior.' It is stated here that his ' Quses-
tiones XXXIII. de Contractibus et de ordjne
Censuum ' were printed in the appendix tc
Gerson's ' Opera ' at Cologne in 1484.
On page 49, col. 2, of the same section oi
the ' Bibliotheca,' in the article on Gerson
the Cologne volume referred to above is
said to have been published four yean
earlier than the three volume edition o:
Gerson's Works that appeared in 1488, anc
to be as it were a fourth volume to it
although containing nothing of Gerson's
but writings of other learned men who wrot<
about the same time and on similar topics
Five names are mentioned, among then
being Henricus de Hassia and Henricus d
Hoita, the second subject of MR. O'BRIEN'!
query. »
In the ' Beihefte zum Centralblatt fii
Bibliothekswesen,' vol. i, Leipzig, 1888-9
is an article by F. W. E. Roth on th<
Bibliography of Henricus Hembuch d
Hassia dictus de Langenstein. (How th<
cataloguer must execrate mediaeval authors !
According to this the ' Tractatus de con
tractibus ' beginning " In sudore vultus tu
I vesceris pane tuo " is printed in Gerson'
' Opera,' Cologne, 1483, and is found ij
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
299
numerous manuscripts, a list with the pres
marks being given,. The ' Tractatus d
contractibus inter ementes et vendentes,
beginning " Honorabilibus magne disore
ciones," &c., is said to exist only in manu
scripts.
The ' Tractatus de contractibus ' o:
Heinrich von Oytta is said by the ' Allge
meine Deutsche Biographie ' to be printec
in vol. iv. of Gerson's Works (apparently
the 1483 (1484) book described above)
According to Fabricius' « Bibliotheca,' iii
210, col. 2, it was also published separately
but no details are given.
EDWARD BENSLY.
The Catalogus Bibliothecae Bodlejanse,
Oxonii, 1843, vol. secundum, page 141
(sub : Gersonus (Joannes), Cancellarius
Parisiensis) contains the titles of four
different Tractatus, 4to, Col. Ulv. Zell.
s.a., and Tractatus varii, 4to, s.l. et a., to
which the foot-note at p. 18 of Roscher's
work quoted and Henricus de Hassia's
* Tractatus de Contractibus et de Origine
Censuum ' — two misprints of this title
corrected — may possibly refer. H. K.
'THE VILLAGE BLACKSMITH' (12 S. v. 211,
248). — The smithy mentioned by Long-
fellow in his poem, ' The Village Black-
smith,' stood on the west side of Brattle
Street, between Story Street and Farwell
Place in Cambridge, Mass., U.S. The poet
passed it in his walks between his home and
Harvard College, where he was a professor.
In his diary of Oct. 5, 1839, we read :
" Written a new Psalm of Life. It is * The
Village Blacksmith.' ' A year later, Oct. 25,
1840, in a letter to his father, he says :
" I have written a kind of a ballad on a
blacksmith. A song of praise to our
ancestor of Newbury." In The Knicker-
bocker Magazine of New York, November,
1840, vol. xvi. p. 419, the poem was first
printed.
The blacksmith shop disappeared years
ago, but the " spreading chestnut tree "
was allowed to remain, standing outside of
the curbstone till, in May, 1876, it was
declared to be an obstruction in the high-
way and was cut down, the poet vainly
expostulating against the act. Prof, and
Mrs. E. N. Horsford saved the wood,
however, which was made into a chair,
finished in imitation of ebony, from a design
furnished by W. P. P. Longfellow, the
poet's nephew, and presented by the
children of Cambridge to the poet, on the
anniversary of his birthday, Feb. 27, 1879.
This occasioned the poem, ' From My Arm-
Chair.' A tablet has been placed in the
sidewalk near the site of the tree.
It may be of interest to add that James
Russell Lowell in his poem ' An Indian
Summer Reverie' (1840?) stanzas 34-35),
refers to the same smithy. The smith's
name was Dexter Pratt. Though born ia
South Framingham, Mass., 1799, he was
for a long time a resident of Cambridge, and
was buried in that city at Mount Auburn,
with his wife Rowena Houghton.
EDWARD DENHAM.
New Bedford, Mass.
Dexter Pratt, the "village blacksmith,"
resided on Brattle Street, Cambridge, Mass.r
and plied his trade hard by in a smithy
"under a spreading chestnut tree." The
house, erected in 1811, was acquired by
Pratt in 1827, and is still standing, but the
smithy and the chestnut tree no longer
exist. The figure of Dexter Pratt is one
of those represented in low relief on the
Longfellow Memorial in Longfellow Park,
Cambridge. E. BASIL LTJPTON.
10 Humboldb Street, Cambridge, Mass.
The original of the " smith " in the poem
is said to have been Henry Francis Moore, a
blacksmith in the neighbouring town of
Medford, Massachusetts, whom Longfellow
often visited and was fond of chatting with.
WILLIAM FRANCIS CRAFTS.
69 Cypress Street. Brookline, Massachusetts.
* THE TRAGEDY OF NERO ' AND * Piso's
CONSPIRACY ' (12 S. v. 254). — MR. NICOLL
attributes to Langbaine and to the authors
of the ' Biographia Dramatica ' an error into
which they did not fall. These writers do
not suggest that ' Piso's Conspiracy ' is
dentical with Lee's ' Nero, Emperor of
Rome.'
Langbaine says, in that part of the
Dramatick Poets ' which deals with un-
known authors : " Piso's Conspiracy. . . .is
only the Tragedy of Nero (before men-
ion'd)," &c. This statement does not refer
o Lee's tragedy, which was not by an
unknown' author and was duly attributed to
ee on p. 324. It refers to an unknown
uthor's ' Nero's Tragedy ' mentioned on
). 542, but omitted from the index to the
ook — an omission which may possibly
lave misled your correspondent. Lang-
mine says that this play was mentioned by
Kirkman (viz., in 1671), thus showing that
t was an earlier play than Lee's.
In the 'Biographia Dramatica' (1812) it
s stated that ' Piso's Conspiracy ' is no more
han the ' Tragedy of Nero,' a little altered
iii. 157), and that the latter play was.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 fiJ. V. Nov., 1919.
Anonymous and was printed in 1624 (iii. 76),
a date about twenty-nine years before Lee
was born, and abouc fifty years before his
.first play was produced.
'The Tragedy of Nero,' 1624, which Mr.
JFleay ('Chronicle,' ii. 84, 334) suspected to
Jbe the work of May, has not lain neglected.
It was reprinted by Mr. Bullen in ' Old
English Plays ' (1882), and it is also included
•in the volume entitled 'Nero and Other
Plays' in the "Mermaid Series." Two
copies of the version printed in 1676 appear
in the British Museum Catalogue under the
.heading of Piso. GEORGE NEWALL.
LUCIEN BONAPARTE : PRISONER IN ENG-
LAND (12 S. v. 236). — Lucien Bonaparte
did not stay at Ludlow Castle whilst a
prisoner in England as the following ex-
tracts show.
The Annual Register for 1811, under date
'Jan. 3, has the following : —
" Madame Lucien Buonaparte, with her family,
fend a numerous train of servants, arrived at
Ludlow on Wednesday, the 3rd, having per-
formed the journey from Plymouth in a week.
Lucien removed on the preceding day from the
inn, to Lord Powis's residence in that town,
called Dinham House ; his Lordship's seat in the
neighbourhood (Stone House) being found too
small for the reception of so numerous a suite.
It is believed they will remain at Ludlow during
several months."
Brayley and Britton's ' Beauties of Eng-
land and Wales,' vol. xiii. (Shropshire),
published in 1813, states that Ludlow
Castle " has long remained a total and
.absolute ruin," so that it could not have
Jbeen habitable at that time. Mention is
made of Lucien Buonaparte's stay in the
town, but the place of residence is not
•stated. ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
The statement by Madame Junot is not
-correct. I was certain that Ludlow Castle
was not inhabitable in 1810; but in order
that I might be able to answer the question
correctly, I communicated with my friend, )
Mr. H.T. Weyman, F.S.A.,of Ludlow, who'
iias a thorough knowledge of facts con-
nected with the Castle. I give the substance
of his reply to me.
Lucien Bonaparte was captured by an
English Cruiser when on his way to the
United States of America in 1810. He was
brought to England, and in December, 1810,
was lodged, as a prisoner, in Dinham House,
Ludlow. (The Castle being then, practically
a ruin.) He was placed under the charge of
•Col. Knyvett Leighton about Dec. 17.
Dinham House, belonging to Lord Powis,
chosen as Lucien 's residence, because
the Stone House, Onibury (now Stokesa
Court) and another house, Lymore, wei
not in good enough state for so distinguishe
a prisoner. He remained at Ludlow, wit
his family, until June, 1811. He bought
house called Thorngroye in June, 181]
and went to live there with his family.
Col. Leighton has left it on record that h
had no easy time with his charge, who wa
discontented with his life at Ludlow.
HERBERT SOUTHAM.
GENDER OF " DISH " IN LATIN (12 S
v. 266). — 1. Pape (1880) and Lidde
and Scott (1890) give the Greek word a
/za^byo/zos, masculine, regarding it as a
adjective in agreement with Ku/cAo? or -rival
An examination, however, of the passage
in Greek literature to which they refer sho-w
that in all instances but one the gender is un
determined, the word occurring in a cas
where it could be equally masculine c
neuter.
The one exception is in the ' Corpus In
scriptionum Grsecarum,' 2852, 51, a referenc
given only by Liddell and Scott, wher
/xa£ovo/uos x/awous is said to be founc
This would seem at first sight to settle th
question. But if any one takes the troubl
to look at the inscription carefully he wii
see that the statement in Liddell and Scot
is wrong. The words are /za^oi'd/zoi/ xPV(ro^
They are in a long list of objects dedicate*
by Seleucus II. in 243 B.C. in the temple o
Apollo at Didyma, and the separate items
of which the /m£bi>o/zov \pva-ovi' is one, ai
expressed in the nominative. Moral : Tea
all references. What a dictionary says i
not (conclusive) evidence.
2. In the three passages (Varro, Horace
and Nemesianus) quoted by dictionaries fo
the Latinised form of the word, the gerde
is again undetermined. But the Commen
tator Cruquianus on Hor. Sat. II. viii. 8
writes : " Mazonomus genus est lanci
capacioris," &c.
There appears then to be no purel;
literary instance in Greek or Latin to detei
mine the usage as regards gender. Th
evidence of the inscription in 243 points t<
the neuter, and the Latin scholiast, take bin
for what he is worth, to the masculine.
But that the practice as regards what i
known as gender was not always as consisten
as seems sometimes to be thought is showi
by the existence of /3ap/3iTos as both mascu
line and feminine and fodpftiTov, neuter.
EDWARD BENSLY.
Oudle Cottage, Much Hadham, Herts.
12 S. V. Nov., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
301
MB. FOSTER PALMER alludes to an. attempt
to turn the nursery rhyme ' Hey, Diddle-
Diddle ' into Latin, and is puzzled to find an
equivalent for "dish." He suggests the
uncommon word mazonomus. Apparently
he is not aware that the lines in question
have been cleverly translated in the ' Arun-
dines Cami,' by the Rev. H. Drury.who has
employed the word lanx, lands (akin to the
Greek 7rAa£) for a broad or flat dish. As an
amusing specimen of ingenuity his lines are
worth quoting : —
Hei didulum — atque iterum didulum ! Felisque
Fidesque !
Vacca super Lnnre cornua proMluit.
Kescio qua catulus risit dulcedine ludi ;
Abstulit et turpi lanx cochleare fu a.
Has the word mazonomus any connexion with
"mazer," or " maser," a bowl ? or is the
resemblance merely accidental ? There is
an instructive note on this word in the
4 Promptorium Parvulorum ' (p. 328), but
too long for quotation here.
J. E. HARTING.
DISCOVERIES IN COINS (12 S. iii. 449 ;
v. 195). — The Manchester Evening News,
Monday, July 7, 1919, contains the following
discovery, under the heading ' Facts and
Comments ' : —
" 1 ,800-YEARS OLD COIN.
<: A workman who was employed making exca-
vations in Corporation Roar), Grimsby, dug up an
old coin, which he exchanged for a pint of beer at
a public-house.
"The manager of the latter sent the coin to the
British Museum for classification. A report re-
ceived on Saturday from the curator describes the
coin as a brass Sestertius, of the Roman Emperor
Vespasian, period A.D. 69-79. The coin is in a good
state of preservation, and of considerable interest
and value to collectors."
The same paper of Friday, Aug. 29,
contains the following under ' Ancient
Irish Coins Found ' : —
" An interesting discovery was made yesterday
by some drainage workers outside Mul linear, where
a subterranean passage was unearthed. In it some
ancient Irish gold coins and cooking utensils, dating
back to pagan times, were found."
FRED L. TAVARE.
GEORGE DYER: PORTRAIT (12 S. v. 237,
275). — There is an excellent picture of
"Amicus redivivus " in the Fitzwilliam
Museum, with his dog; but not " Tobit,"
the dog called by Lamb " Nobit," from the
uncertainty of Dyer's feedings.
A photograph was made for one of the
Charles Lamb dinners, and, no doubt,
a copy could be easily obtained from the
Museum. GEORGE WHERRY.
The Union Sc ciety, Cambridge.
PIANO LEGS IN TROUSERS (12 S. v. 261).—
In my boyhood at Castle ji'Acre in Norfolk
I was taken by my aunts ^to tea with two
maiden ladies, anci was very astonished to»
find the piano legs draped in muslin, and
also to see small skirts of tissue paper
pasted on nude figures in some oil paintings -
of classical scenes. I well remember being
told this was done because "naked legs
were indecent." J. HARVEY BLOOM.
The "limbs" of pianos were sometimes-
entrousered during the sixties of last cen-
tury. The garments were of muslin, and
I think they were gathered in at the ankles
by bands of ribbon. In this country it was
probably an idea of decoration, rather than
of delicacy that produced the atrocity.
Soon came a time when everything had to-
be draped or trimmed. German house--
wives had frills along their pantry shelves.
ST. S WITHIN.
ELEPHANT: OLIPHANT (12 S. v. 238). —
Bardsley's 'Dictionary of English and
Welsh Surnames ' gives Oliphant as being a
nickname for " the elephant," no doubt, a-
complimentary allusion to the big, burly
physique of the bearer.
Lower, in ' Patronymica Britannica,'
quotes several authorities on the derivation
of the name Oliphant, as follows : —
" Kelham and Halliwell give Olifaunt, Anglo-
Norman, an elephant. Chaucer in his rime of-
' Sir Thopas,' says : —
There came a gret geaunt,
His name was sire Oliphaunt,
A perilous man of dede.
Tyrwhitt considers the word to mean elephant',-
which he thinks a suitable name for a giant-
It is remarkable, however, that in Anglo-Saxon
olfend signifies a camel, and therefore that
useful animal may, equally with the more pon-
derous brute, assert its claim to the honour of
haying surnamed this family. Some of the
Oliphants bear an elephant's head as their crest,,
but this may be a mere blunder."
ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
Whether or not the Hebrew aleph, the
first letter of the Jewish alphabet, which,
signifies an " ox," or " leader," gave rise
through a Phoenician or Punic tongue to the
Greek eAe^as and its Latin translation,
it eventually produced Eng. " elephant " ;,
but the Old French, Mid. Eng. and Dutch
forms of the word are olifant and olifaunt.
In Anglo-Saxon elpend (sometimes elp and
yip), an elephant, is very apt to be mistaken
for olfend, a camel ; so it is quite on the-
cards that some Oliphant families owe their
surname to the latter source.
N. W.
302
NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 ». v. NOV., 1919.
" OLD LADY OF THREADNEEDLE STREET "
(12 S. v. 238).— The genesis of the applica-
tion of this name to the Bank of England
was discussed in ' N. & Q.' (5 S. ii. 229, 291),
1874. For the benefit of those who have not
access to those references I may quote from
a letter from Mr. William Platt of the
'Conservative Club on the subject: —
" A vulgar name given to the directors of the
Bank of England by William Cobbett, proprietor
of The Political fieyister, because they endeavoured,
with their financial boom, to stem the Atlantic
waves of national progre«s. This figure of speech
was founded upon an anecdote introduced by the
Rev. Sydney Smith in an address upon the Reform
Bill delivered at Taunt/on on or about the llth of
October, 1831."
Sydney Smith's story — too long to quote —
described the fruitless efforts of a Mrs.
Partington to repulse the Atlantic waves
with a mop on the occasion of a flood at
Sidmouth. WILLOUGHBY MAYCOCK.
"A silver curl-paper that I myself took
off the shining locks of the ever-beautiful
Old Lady of Threadneedle Street [a bank
note]" (Dickens's 'Dr. Marigold'). Brewer,
in his ' Phrase and Fable,' says Thread-
needle may be a corruption of Thryddanen
or Thryddenal Street , third street from
Chepesyde ; or Thrigneedle (three needle
street), from the three needles which the
Needlemakers' Company bore in their arms.
It begins from the Mansion House and
therefore the Bank stands in it. M.A.
EMERSON'S 'ENGLISH TRAITS' (12 S.
v. 234, 275)..—
11. These are nicknames given in America
to the inhabitants of the States of Indiana,
Illinois and Wisconsin respectively. Hoosier
is said by some to be a corruption of a slang
term, husher, which meant a bully ; by
others as being due to the curiosity of the
early settlers in asking newcomers the
question, " Who you, or they, are," and
where they come from. For familiar names
given to the various American States see
'The New International Encyclopaedia,' s.v.
* States, Popular names of.'
N. W. HILL.
19. See Sir N. W. Wraxall's ' Historical
Memoirs,' part i., ed. 1904, p. 190 : — .
"His [Rodney's] person was more elegant than
seemed to become his rough profession. There
was even something that approached to delicacy
and effeminacy in his figure : but no man manifested
a more temperate and steady courage in Action. I
had the honour to live in great personal intimacy
with him, and have often heard him declare that
superiority to fear was not in him the physical effect
of constitution ; on the contrary, no man being
more sensible by nature to that passion than him-
self : but that he surmounted it from the considera-
tions of honor and public duty."
This is clearly Emerson's source.
EDWARD BENSLY.
Oudle Cottage, Much Hadham, Herts.
ASTERTION FLOWERS (12 S. v. 267). — i
think that there need be no doubt as to the
editor's suggestion of " nasturtium." Two
entirely different plants are so called :
(1) water-cress (Nasturtium officinale) and
allied species ; (2) the garden nasturtium
with showy yellow flowers ( Tropceolum majus),
called by Parkinson Nasturtium indicum or
Indian cress, and he speaks of the leaves
being used instead of ordinary cresses
because the taste is somewhat sharp and
agreeing thereto. The 'N.E.D.' has a
quotation from Mrs. Glasse, ' Cookery,'
vi. 98 : "A few nasturtium flowers stuck
here and there look pretty." The form
" assertion " is due to loss of initial n, as
in "apron," originally "naperon." and the
substitution of the common English -on for
the Latin -urn. J. T. F.
In working-class districts of Bristol the
nasturtium is frequently referred to as
astertion or stertion. WM. SANIGAR.
BLUECOAT SCHOOLS (12 S. v. 126, 158,
218). — There was, thirty years ago, a
Bluecoat school at Ipswich. Its original
title was the Charity Schools of Greycoat
Boys and Bluecoat Girls, but the costume
had been changed, and the scholars were
known as " Bluecoat boys." They wore a
quaint costume consisting of a swallow-
tailed cutaway coat of dark blue, with white
metal buttons, blue knee breeches, with
white wool stockings, shoes, and tall hats,
like a plebeian form of the Eton " topper."
The Bluecoat girls, I think, wore dark blue
dresses, with tippets, and close-fitting
bonnets, but I am not quite certain of this.
The charity was established in 1709 and was
confined to the children of bona fide members
of the Church of England.
R. S. PEKGELLY.
12 Poynders Road, Clapham Park.
BRASSEY (BRACEY) FAMILY (12 S. ii. 269,
333, 378 ; iii. 54, 255).— Musgrave's ' Obit.'
gives : Nath. Brassey, banker, Lombard
Street, May, 1737 ; Nath. Brassey, banker,
Sept. 29, 1765 ; Mr. Nath. Brassey, shop-
factor at Reading (about June), 1767 ;
Nath. Brassey, junior, son of the banker,
Lombard Street, Sept. 14, 1782. Mrs.
Brassey, in Fenchurch Street, Jan. 7, 1767 ;
12 S. V. Nov., 1919. J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
303T-
Mrs. Brassey, relict of Nathaniel Brassey,
Lombard Street, Oct. 10, 1786. The first is
an extract from The Historical Register for
May, 1737, which says : —
"Nathaniel Brassey, Esq., formerly a banker in
Lombard iStreet, and father of Nathaniel Brassey,
Esq., of Lombard Street, Member of Parliament
for Hertford. He died possessed of a large estate."
Now if this statement is accurate the M.P.
was son of Nathaniel (not John) Brassey, and
if the manor of Roxford was bought in 1699,
by John Brassey, then a generation has been
skipped in the pedigree, as the M.P. would
seem to have been John's grandson. I have
a MS. note that Nathaniel Brassey, a London
banker, of Roxford, Herts, was a defeated
candidate for St. Albans in March, 1730,
but sat for Hertford in four Parliaments
from 1734 to 1761 ; was made a Commissioner
of Lieutenancy for the City of London,
June 21, 1740; and died, Sept. 29, 1765,
aged 68. It was his eldest son who died
Sept. 14, 1782. I have not yet ascertained
the name of the wife of the M.P. In the
* List of the Bankers in London ' given in
The St. James's Register for 1765, the firm
is given as Brassey, Lee & Son, The Acorn,
Lombard Street. W. R. WILLIAMS.
* TOM JONES' (12 S. v. 268).— In
* Memoirs of My Life and Writings ' (Edward
Gibbon) the third paragraph from the
beginning in ' Autobiography of Edward
Gibbon as Originally Edited by Lord
Sheffield ' has : —
" The nobility of the Spencers has been illus-
trated and enriched by the trophies of Marl-
borough ; but I exhort them to consider the ' Fairy
Queen' as the most precious jewel of their coronet.
Our immortal Fielding was of the younger branch
of the Earls of Denbigh, who draw their origin
from the Counts of Habsburg, the lineal descendants
of Eltrico, in the seventh century, Duke nf Alsace.
Far different have been the fortunes of the English
and German divisions of the family of Habsburg :
the former, the knights and sheriffs of Leicester-
shire, have slowly risen to the dignity of a peerage ;
the latter, the Emperors of Germany, and Kings
of Spain, have threatened the liberty of the old,
and invaded the treasures of the new world. The
successors of Charles the Fifth may disdain their
brethren of England : but the romance of ' Tom
Jones,' that exquisite picture of human manners,
will outlive the palace of the Escurial, and the
imperial eagle of the house of Austria."
Thackeray in his lecture on ' Hogarth,
Smollett, and Fielding ' writes : —
" The kind and wise old Johnson would not sit
down with him [Fielding]. But a greater scholar
than Johnson could afford to admire that astonish-
ing genius of Harry Fielding ; and we all know the
lofty panegyric which Gibbon wrote of him, and
which remains a towering monument to the great
novelist's memory
" There can be no gainsaying the sentence of this -
great judge. To have your name mentioned by
Gibbon is like having it written on the dome of
St. Peter's. Pilgrims from all the world admire
and behold it."
To the best of my knowledge the Habs-
burgs and the Fieldings are not related. I
never could find any evidence of any con-
nexion. Lord Denbigh and his family spell
the name Feilding. The novelist said that
he was the first of the family who could spell •
correctly. THOS. WHITE.
Junior Reform Club, Liverpool.
The " splendid but sufficiently quoted
eulogy of Gibbon " appeared in 1795 near
the beginning of his ' Memoirs ' which were
" carefully selected and put together " by
Lord Sheffield from the six different sketches
left by the historian.
The pedigree that was the occasion, of
Gibbon's prarie is now discredited.
EDWARD BENSLY.
[MR. ARCHIBALD SPARKE and MR. C. B«;
WHEELER aho thanked for replies.]
TOBACCO PIPES (12 S. v. 210). — I used to
have one of these triple pipes (three bowls
and three stems, but one mouthpiece) which
had been made in Hexham, Northumberland,
some time in the first quarter of the nine-
teenth century (1801-25). I got it from a
relative who belonged to that town, but
beyond being a curiosity I could learn no
more about it. Unfortunately it was broken
during " spring cleaning " a few years ago.
J. W. FAWCETT.
Consett, co. Durham.
"As DEAD AS A DOOR-NAIL" (12 S. V. 266).
— Probably the first or rudimentary knocker
was a round stone at the end of a short strip
of hide. When the metal knocker on a
hinge was invented it would not be long
before the iron began to knock a hole in the
door, so a nail with a large flat or mushroom,
head would be driven into the door at the
point of percussion, the resonance of the
blow being also much increased. " What !
Is the old king dead ? " exclaims Falstaff in
' Henry IV.,' to which the reply is " As nail
in door." And what deader, seeing that it
is being everlastingly knocked on the head !
" Dead as mutton," again : a sheep may
be alive or dead, but what can be deader
than mutton 1
" Dead as a herring " is said to be because
a herring's gills are so delicate that it dies
the instant it is taken out of the water.
Only last month I asked a sea-fishing
friend if this was so, and he asserted that the
304
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lierring flapped in the boat for some time
after being caught. Is not the real ex-
planation that in the early days Dutch
salted herrings were largely used on days of
fast and that the herring was known to
most people solely as a dead fish — as dead
as mutton ? DOUGLAS OWEN.
Mr. W. Gurney Benham, in ' Cassell's
Book of Quotations,' p. 189, quotes from
William Langland or Langley, ' The Vision
of William concerning Piers the Plowman,'
Passus ii. 1. 183 : —
Faith without feet ys tebelere than nought,
And ded as a dorenayle.
and explains that "feet" ("fet" in the
1393 M.S.) = "works " and that the earlier
MS. have " doretree " for " dorenayle."
The reviewer of Mr. Svartengren's ' In-
tensifying Similes ' at 12 S. iv. 343 says : —
" We think Mr. Svartenpcren is right about ' dead
as a doornail,' but he should have made a reference
to : cold as a wagon tire.' The cold metal suggests
the cold, dead body."
JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.
Although John Gay includes " dead as a
door -nail " in his * New Song of New
Similios,' published in the reign of George I.,
yet this expression is of much more ancient
date. It is found twice in the alliterative
romance of ' William of Palerne ' (c. 1350) and
it also occurs in the A. -text of Langland's
' Piers Plowman ' (1362), where faith without
works is said to be " ded as a dore-nayle."
In the B.-text (1377) the expression was
changed to " ded as a dore-tre," and Prof.
Skeat, in his Clarendon Press edition of the
poem, explains that " tre " is here used, as
elsewhere in O.E., to indicate wood that is
cut down and dead. Cf. the modern " axle-
tree." In this form the simile is easily
intelligible, and Langland, in the later
version of his work, may have deliberately
substituted " tre " for " nayle " for the
sake of clearness.
But is it not possible that both expressions
were then in current use, and that " ded as
a dore-tre " was the original one, but was
gradually superseded by the other, which,
being more striking, may have caught the
popular fancy ?
Another old writer (Alexander, 1400-1450)
has " Dom as a dore-nayle and defe was he
bathe," but there is no difficulty in this com-
parison, nor in Urquhart's " Deaf as a door-
nail " (Rabelais iii. 34). It is interesting to
note that the alternative form of the latter,
viz., "deaf as a post," or "deaf as a door-
post " has been the one to survive.
Shakespeare, ' 2 Hen. VI.' IV. xi., make;
Jack Cade say to Alexander Iden, "If !
doe not leave you as dead as a doore-naile
I pray God I may never eat grass more.'
Since then the expression occurs frequently
in English literature. N. E. TOKE.
If Dickens did write " a coffin-nail is th<
deadest piece of ironmongery in the trade,'
he, nevertheless, emphasised the complete
ness of Marley's decease by insisting tha
" Marley was dead. . . .There was no doub
about that Old Marley was as dead as ;
door-nail " ('The Christmas Carol,' p. 1).
Who may track the originator of th
comparison ? ST. SWITHIN.
[MR. DE V. PAYEN- PAYNE, MR. ARCHIBAL
RPARKE, and MR. W. G. WILLIS WATSON als
thanked for replies.]
HEDGEHOGS (12 S. iv. 76, 140; v. 105
160). — Two legends relating to the habit
of the hedgehog are of great antiquity, an<
from time to time the inquiry is mad
whether there is any truth in either of them
In one it is alleged that the hedgehog i
accustomed to roll itself amongst fa-llei
apples and figs, and to carry off the frui
impaled upon its spines ; in the other i
is asserted that the hedgehog being fon<
of milk will suck the udders of cows whei
lying down and even when grazing. Th
subject has been recently discussed ver;
exhaustively by Mr. Miller Christy, F.L.Sl
in a paper read before the Mancheste
Literary and Philosophical Society ii
March last and just published in the Memoir
and Proceedings of that society. It i
contained in pt. 1 of vol. Ixiii. and may b
obtained from the Secretary, 36 Georg
Street, Manchester. In this article Mi
Christy has collected a great many quota
tioas bearing on the subject, from ancien
and modern authors , which he criticise
on their merits, and draws his own con
elusions. J. E. HARTING.
HAMPSHIRE CHURCH BELLS AND THEI
FOUNDERS (12 S. iv. 188, 341 ; v. 44, 109).-
After reading the interesting notes by Di
J. L. WHITEHEAD and MR. H. B. WALTER
on the mystery of the unknown f ounder wit]
the initials R. B., I am inclined to thin]
that the original ring of six bells at St. Mary's
Bampton, Oxon, may possibly have som
connexion with his foundry. The rini
remained intact till 1865, when the seconi
was recast by Mears & Stainbank. Th
treble, 2 (before recasting), 3, 4, and 5, wer
inscribed: " +Anno Domini +1629. Th
Tenor -f come . when . I . call . to . serve
God . all 1629+ " (between the rims).
12 S. V. Nov., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
305
On the waist, which I have never pre-
viously noticed until a few months ago, is
incised : " . Wardens . Chvroh . R D . T G .
IB." The first two pairs of initials would
probably be those of the churchwardens and
the latter the bellfounders'. The lettering
on all the bells, except the second, is 1| in.
size and the cross which is placed before and
after the date is a cross paty. The fifth,
which had become cracked, was recast in
1903 by Hears & Stainbank.
In 1905 two new bells were added to
increase the ring to eight, and placed in an
iron frame.
Inscription on new treble between the
rims : —
Mears & Stainbank, founders, London, 1906.
On waist : —
A.D. Dei gloriam
et in rnem :
Harriet Sarah Southby
et Ann Herman -Fisher.
MDCCCCV.
Second, between the rims : —
Mears & Stainbank, founders, London, 1906.
On waist : —
A.D. Dei gloriam et
in mem : Gul : Knowlton, Hampshire.
Hujus Eeclesiae.
Vjcarii MDCOCXCV | MDCCCCV.
The old treble, now the present third, was
also recast in 1906 to make the ring more
harmonious. It is now inscribed, on the
waist : —
Cast A.D. 1629. recast A.D. 1906.
If the initials I. B. on the tenor bell are
those of the bellfounder and he had any
connexion with R. B., he might possiby
have been his successor as R. B.'s bells are
said not to occur after 1622.
The founder of the Bampton tenor bell
used a diamond-shaped stop between each
word. William Eldridge made use of a
somewhat similar stop on the fourth,
seventh, and tenor bells at Newport, Isle of
Wight. When the fifth bell was taken away
to be recast it weighed nearly 1£ cwt. more
than the founders anticipated. The tenor
is a very fine toned bell and said to weigh
nearly 30 cwt.
I hope to visit Bampton again soon and
will inquire if there are any churchwardens'
accounts which can bring to light any more
information of the 1629 ring and the name
of the founder. L. H. CHAMBERS.
Bedford.
OLD WATCH- AND CLOCK-MAKERS (12 S
v. 237). — John Price was apprenticed in
1678 to R. Nemes, Clockmakers' Company.
M.A.
R. S. SURTEES (12 S. v. 122, 245).—
The following was in The Times of July 27,.
1916:-
" Miss Elizabeth Ann Surtees, of Hamsterley
Hall, Durham, eldest daughter of the late Kobert
Smith Surtees, author of ' Mr. Sponge's Sporting
Tour,' and sister of the Dowager Lady Gort, left
estate valued at 102,1121. gross, with 52,681Z. net
personalty."
There is a good account of R. S. Surtees
prefixed to an un-illustrated edition of
' Jorrocks's Jaunts and Jollities,' pub-
lished, I think, about 1878. W. B. H.
Two POPES (12 S. v. 266).— As regards
the triple crown of the popes, Dr. Wood-
ward notes ('Ecclesiastical Heraldry/
p. 151):-
" There is much uncertainty as to the time when
the coronets were added to the original infula, the •
simple mitre of the Bishops of Rome. The usual
accoiint is that the first was sent to Rome by
Clovis. King of the Franks ; the second added by
Pope Boniface VIII. (1294-1303); and the third'
either by Benedict XIII. or Urban V. I recently
remarked that on the tomb of Pope Boniface in
the basilica of S. John Lateran the tiara has but
one coronet. This is, so far as I am aware, the
first appearance of it in connection with the Papal
arms."
ST. SWITHIN.
TOMBSTONE INSCRIPTION (12 S. v. 267). —
Does not the line,
Hvic Lux Prima mori dedit Octobns, Seniori,
mean that he died on the first of October
[1125], at an advanced age ? The* comma
after Octobris is misleading, and dedit mori
would, I think, in classical times have
implied that death was a boon — which
perhaps it was. In any case, it is good
enough for " lapidary " Latin.
C. B. WHEELER.
The fifth line apparently means, literally,
" The first dawn of October bestowed death
on this old man " = "This old man died on
the morning of October 1st."
N. POWLETT, Col.
[E. VV. B. and MR. JOHN B. WAINE WRIGHT also
thanked for replies.]
MARRIAGES (12 S. v. 262). — It would
certainly be useful if readers interested in
genealogy compiled lists of marriages from
unpublished notes in their possession, but
I am afraid their value would be slight if no
place of marriage could be given. Failing
that, the place of residence of either or both
parties should be stated. It is the absence
of places in statements of genealogical fact
that renders them so difficult to verify.
We all know this difficulty and are well
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aware of the waste of time caused by
attempts to verify loose and inexact asser-
tions in ancient pedigree-tables. This
Society would be glad, nevertheless, to
receive schedules of the marriages in any
family, taken from the archives and note -3
of readers of ' N. & Q.,' and would file them
under the principal family n^me concerned,
so that they would always be immediately
available for purposes of reference.
GEORGE SHERWOOD, Hon. Treasurer.
The Society of Genealogists of London,
5 Bloomsbury Square, W.CJ.l.
EXCHANGE OF SOULS IN FICTION (12 S.
v. 124, 191, 246, 279).— At the second
reference both MR. ARCHIBALD SPARKE and
MR. N. W. HILL adduce R. S. Hichens'
' Flames : a London Phantasy ' as an
instance required by your querist under this
heading. Oddly enough, since the pen-
ultimate reference appeared I have read a
volume entitled ' Byways,' by Robert
Hichens which contains stories all closely
akin to those already enumerated, ' The
Charmer of Snakes,' ' A Tribute of Souls,'
'An Echo in Egypt,,' 'The Face of the
Monk,' and 'A Silent Guardian.' The
second named evidently resembles ' Flame?,'
by (apparently) the same author though the
locus in quo is placed in Africa ; the last is
the story of a poul infused into a marble
statue — all of them weird compositions
which can legitimately find a place amongst
those of which your querist is in search.
J. B. MCGOVERN.
PORTRAITS ON GRAVESTONES (12 S. ii. 210,
'277, 377, 459 ; in. 14 ; v. 250).— Any traveller
held up for an hour at Woodford Junction
on the G.C.R. may see for himself in the
churchyard, an unrivalled series of grave-
stone portraits, by artists of the Horton
School, mainly of the later years of the
seventeenth century. They include busts
in relief of the deceased, often both of
husband and wife, and occasionally, full
lengths in high relief, not by any means
the only examples to be met, with locally of
such ambitious sculptural efforts.
J. HARVEY BLOOM.
BLACKWELL HALL FACTOR (12 S. v. 266).
• — Blackwell Hall, or as it was sometimes
named, Bakewell or Blakewell Hall, was a
market place which was removed in 1820
to make way for the new Courts of Law at
the Guildhall, and extended almost to
Basinghall Street. The earliest mention of
it is in 1356 in the ' Calendars of the Letter
Books of the City of London ' (Letter G.
p. 67) when it is referred to as " Bakkewelle
halle," though the property was granted t<
John de Banquell in 1293. From 1396 tin
place was used as a market place for woollei
cloths, and foreigners were directed to brini
their woollen cloth for sale to Bakwellehalle
Stow describes it as a market place fo:
cloths, and says it was rebuilt at the end o
the sixteenth century. It was burnt in th<
fire, 1666, rebuilt 1672, and finally remove<
in 1820. It is evident, therefore, that i
"Blackwell Hall Factor" was a clotl
merchant at the Blackwell Hall market.
ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
[ MR. F. A. RUSSELL also thanked for reply.]
THE LUMBER TROOP, FETTER LANI
(12 S. i. 469, 515). — An account of this clul
is given in Grant's ' Sketches in London,
1840, chap, iii., with three illustrations.
J. ARDAGH.
49 Nansen Road, Lavender Hill, S.W.I1.
RICHARD HOOKER'S BUST (12 S. v. 152).—
Certainly " Bishopsborne." See p. 11 o
Dean Church's edition (Oxford, 1888) o:
book i. of ' Hooker,' quoting Walton' i
Introduction to his ' Life of Hooker.'
W. A. B. C.
HERVEY OR HERVET (12 S. v. 95, 167
189, 246). — I cannot think with MR. HILI
that Hervet can possibly be a result oi
Hervetus. It is much more likely thai
Hervetus was a result of Hervet. Thai
people in English villages should go or
saying Harvet for six hundred years becaus<
now and then a monk or a scribe had writtei
Hervetus on a bit of parchment, does noi
seem likely. S. H. A. H.
SHAKESPEARE AND THE GARDEN (12 S
v. 153, 193).— See 'The Rural Life o
Shakespeare, as illustrated by his Works,
by C. Roach Smith, 2nd ed., 1874 (pub
lished by subscription). E. BRABROOK.
Laugham House, Wallmgton, Surrey.
' QUENTIN DURWARD ' (12 S. v. 268).-
The lines quoted in paragraph 7 are fron
Leyden's ' Lord Soulis,' a fine ballad to<
little known. As Ley den di:d only a fev
years before Scott, "Old Ballad" is a littli
strained. N. POWLETT. Col.
PRESIDENT WILSON'S ANCESTORS (12 S
iv. 298 ; v. 51).— Mr. Philip Gibbs under th<
heading ' Heroine of Cambrai,' described ii
The Daily Chronicle of May 31 his meetinj
with Miss Mary Cunningham after the cap
ture of Cambrai by the Allies. In a previou
article in the same paper he dealt fully wit!
12 S. V. Nov., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
the story of this octogenarian lady's life
-during the German occupation. Miss Cun-
ningham, who is of Ulster birth, has now
returned to Belfast. Her grandmother,
Miss Kimmins, was, it appears, a sister of
the great -grandmother of President Wilson.
N. W. HILL.
RALPH GRIFFITHS (12 S. v. 236, 279).—
For Ralph Griffiths (not Griffith) see the
4D.N.B.,' and Forster's 'Life of Gold-
smith,' passim. EDWARD BENSLY.
0n
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THE brief heading we give is that on the cover
•of this pamphlet, a reprint of a paper read at
the International Historical Congress of 1913,
and issued in the Proceedings of the British
Academy. Dr. Bradley, in charge of the
Great Oxford Dictionary, is our best authority
on English, and we welcome this record of
his views destined for general circulation.
The relations between spoken and written
English are seldom seriously considered, while
the average speaker and writer go along merrily
in their sloppy way, ignoring obvious deficiencies.
Going down to first principles, Dr. Bradley pro-
duces some shrewd criticisms on the advocates of
simplified spelling. He shows that we have no
justification for regarding " the history of English
spelling as a story of nothing but blundering and
stupid and indolent conservatism." The immense
world of print to-day has a great advantage in
j influence over spoken English, and Dr. Bradley's
j final word is that "English is far more unsuited
than the European tongues to be written pho-
I netically." Written language has developed
i independently of spoken, particularly in the
i vast vocabulary which is made out of Greek
and Latin words, and is being daily increased
by men of science. Now the great pur-
pose of written language is to convey meaning,
not sound. In fact, many words have, reverting
j to the oldest forms of writing, become ideographs.
The phonetic value of the letters is forgotten,
and a spelling, phonetically incorrect, will tell the
practised reader what is meant quicker than the
most accurate of philological symbols. Such a
reader associates a group of letters with a certain
jword, or as much of that group as he needs
| to read. If, for instance, he has got as far as
I "foil" and expects a verb, he makes out the
| word "follow" without reading the " ow," just
ias, we imagine, readers of music know that cer-
:tain notes must be combined in chords, and do
snot need to read all of them to play them cor-
jrectly. What precisely goes on in the mind of
'the practised reader it is difficult to say, and Dr.
Bradley's record of his own experience is of great
interest.
: A main difficulty in English is the amount of
(words with different meanings and the same pro-
(nunciation, or^roughly the same. This causes con-
fusion in speech, as Dr. Bradley shows amusingly
in the case of an Oxford orator, and gives a chance
to the punster. It also tends to loss of words.
Thus " son " has disappeared from dialects in many
parts of England, though "daughter" is in every-
day use. The confusion between "son" and
"sun " has certainly something to do with this.
Some *rery interesting remarks are made on the
prevalence of "undemocratic" words in our lan-
guage, words such a« appeal to the classically
educated. It is pointed out that 4i it is on the
resemblance of their customary written form to
the written form of Latin or Greek words that
their mental effect depends. If their spelling
were materially changed, the motive for using
them would be gone, and multitudes of them
would become obsolete." Dr. Bradley regards the
use of such words as "a symptom of disease." But
the use of sonorous words of some kind is an
ineradicable instinct in humanity. Are we to
throw away the majestic polysyllables of Greece
and Rome, and what are we going to put in their
place? The supersession of the present literary
vocabulary with all its traditions seems a heavy
price to pay for one that will rest on the sound
foundation of the oral vernacular. Poets may and
do occasionally attempt a little reform in spelling,
but general reform is a vastly more difficult matter.
It would have to be adopted by a preponderant
part of the newspaper world, and some agreement
as to the best among a crowd of different pronun-
ciations would have to be reached. At present
the world seems tending more to a facetious and
rejoicing ignorance in such matters than to acqui-
escence in the verdict of those who know.
We have only dealt with one or two points in
Dr. Bradley's survey of the subject. It needs close
attention throughout, and is well worth it.
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LONDON, DECEMBER, 1910
CONTENTS.— No. 99.
NOTES :— Bank Note Slang, 309—' Fai ewt-1 Folly ' and ' The
Amorous Miser,' 310 — Statues and Memorials in the
British Isles, 312— "Hedsilver," 313— Royal Commission
on Public Kecords — Curious Christian Epitaph, 314 —
"Never prophesy unless you know"— 'St. Srephen and
Herod'— Dr Fell — Persistent Error — Literature and
Iconography of London Peace Celebrations, 315.
QUERIES : — Edmund Uvedale — Bulteel : Carrique :
Haynes : Swanne— " We Four Fools," 316— Tradesmen's
Cards and Bill-Heads — " Est melius nunquam felicia
tempera nosse." &c.— Burning of File-ship— King Rescued
by bis Dogs— Parks Family— Amos Russel— Street Names
—'In Flanders' Fields '—Hamilton of Liscloor y— North
of England, 317— 'Bertram de Bourne '—Mrs. Siddons—
Countless Stones at Aylesford — Walter Hamilton — ' Fair
Mile'— Rev. J. T. Desaguliers— Lawrence Wodecocke—
" Bonfire Night "— " If I should die to-night," 318— Breed-
ing of Woodcocks — Green Holly— " Cellarius"— Harry
Taylor— George Deering — Richard Prosper — Miniature
Man-of-War— Wm. Hawkins : Anne Walton, 319— "Horse-
leperde" — Collingwood and Lawson— Christmas Carol—
Fletcher of Madeley— Cistercian Order— 'Swiss Family
Robinson '—Mediaeval Immurement — Danvers Family —
Elmes Family— Longwor;h Castle— Graf ton, Oxon— Log
House, 320— Lieut. -Gen. Sharpe — Maison Rouge— Smale —
Wilson — Prince James Francis Edward Stuart— Charles
Howard Hodges— Thumb Latch— "The Beautiful Mrs.
Conduitt," 321 -Ann of Swansea— Authors Wanted, 322.
REPLIES :— Yeomen of the Mouth, 322— Maule— ' Tragedy
of Nero '—Shit Id of Flanders, 323— Court of St. James—
Richenda— Richard Warnford, 324 -" When you die of old
age "—Chess— Derivation of Names, 325— Anthony Todd
— Charles I's Journey — "Rain cats and dogs" — David,
"Episcopus Recreensis"— " Argyles," 326— Edward the
Confessor's Crown — 'Tom Jones' — Hamilton — Emerson's
•English Traits'— John Hoole, 327— Marazion— Field-
names—Grim or Grime — Beacon sfield's Birthplace, 328—
Rede-birds — Pseudonyms — Giants' Names— Capt. R.
Boyle—' Adeste Fideles,' 329— Lord J. Vaughan— Gen. J.
Nicholson — Charles Morris — " Drink by word of mouth "
—Portraits on Gravestones -Translations Wanted, 330—
Church Briefs — Bishop of Sorron — Ensign Oliver Crom-
well—"Toponymies"— Wm. Peer, 331— Bluecoat Schools
— Cantrell Family — George Shepherd— Devonian Priests
executed— Gavelacre, 332—" Gamp "—Dr. Stocks— Lieut
Pavry— Gilbert White. 333— Three Cripples— Exchange of
fc'ouls in Fiction— Elephant : Oliphant- Authors Wanted
— Thomas Cotesmore, 334
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Notices to Correspondents.
BANK NOTE SLANG.
THE issue of paper money of new denomina-
tions during the war is perhaps of too recent
origin for these notes to have yet attained
the inevitable distinction of having a nick-
name or slang word attached to them. If,
however, precedent holds good they cannot
fail in course of time to be branded by some
such mark of familiarity, just as their
forerunners have been and as their contem-
poraries are now known amongst certain,
classes of people. As a matter of fact, a
beginning in this direction has already been
made in the case of the ten shilling Treasury
note, which is frequently called a " Brad
bury," from the signature of the Secretary
to the Treasury which appears somewhat
prominently upon it.
Before the war broke out the " fiver " was
the b'ank note of lowest value in circulation
in England, and this name for it was
commonly known and extensively used,
not only by those addicted to the use of
slang, but even by educated people in ordinary
talk. A verse which once appeared in Fun
may be quoted as containing a rather pat
illustration of the word : —
'Tis the last quid of many
Left sadly alone,
All its golden companions
Are changed and are gone ;
No coin of its kindred,
No " fiver" is here,
To burn in tobacco
Or melt into beer.
The " fiver," moreover, has several aliases
less familiar. Probably not one of a
hundred who know the note as a "fiver"
would recognise it as a " finnup " or " finny,"
while fewer still have ever heard of it as an
* * Abraham Newland. " " Finnup , " " finny, ' '
or " finn " are said to have come into vogue
through the Yiddish pronunciation of the
German funf, meaning five. They are
familiar words in thieves' jargon. The
term "Abraham Newland" came into use
over a century ago, but it is now obsolete,
although it has a present-day interest
because in its origin it is analogous to the
" Bradbury " of to-day, as it was coined from
the name of the chief cashier of the Bank of
England about a century ago. The name
also was once in rather significant use in the
phrase " to sham Abraham," which was then
slang for "to forge." The word "fiver"
will naturally call to the reader's mind the
usual slang for a £10 note, viz., a "tenner,"
which also is less commonly known as a
" double finnup."
Sporting people, and especially betting
people, are all familiar with " pony " for £25
and " monkey " for £500. The former word
has been long in use, for one finds it in
Scott's novel ' St. Ronan's Well,' written
about a century ago. Whyte Melville, the
novelist of sport, may be cited as regards the
term " monkey," which he uses in this
sentence taken from ' Good for Nothing,'
one of his best-known works : " A ' monkey '
at least to the credit side of your own book
landed in about a minute and a half." It
may be worth noting also that "monkey "
and " fiver " have both attained more than
a local habitation, for our American cousins
are familiar with these words as applied to
310
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 8. V. DEC., 1919.
their bills for $500 and $5. The use of
" century " for £100 never properly caught
on, although it is found occasionally, as in
this sentence taken from The Sportinq Times :
" A little cheque for a century is the pri^e we
offer this week for the successful accomj>lish-
rnent of the task of naming the first three."
' Whitaker's Almanac ' gives two slang
words which the present writer has failed to
trace elsewhere. These are " caw " as
equivalent for £1,000, and "marigold"
for £1,000,000. No dictionary, however,
mentions these terms, not even the great
' Slang Dictionary ' of Barrere and Leland.
The 'N.E.D.,' incomparably the finest and
most complete in our language, states, indeed,
that "marigold" was once the slang for a
sovereign, and it quotes a sentence from one
of Cowley's plays written in the seventeenth
century. The words are : " I'll presently go
put five hundred marygolds in a purse for
you." No mention is made at all of the
word ever signifying £1,000,000. The same
has to be said of " caw," which is not even
referred to in any shape or form. The last
term which requires mention here stands in
no such uncertainty, however, and its use
is well authenticated, as it is freely found in
the chief writers of the eighteenth century,
when it was evidently employed much as
our term millionaire is nowadays. This is
the slang term "plum," which stood for
£100,000. It has been suggested that the
word is derived from the Latin pluma, a
feather, the idea being that a man who had
accumulated that sum had feathered his
nest, It is certainly rather curious to note
that the Italian and Spanish words for
feather have also in these languages the
slang meaning of money. The following
quotation from an early number of Punch
illustrates the use of the word even in quite
recent times : " The next day they disposed
of their swag for a plum and invested the
proceeds in Spaniards and Turks."
The word, as a matter of fact, had a
double use, for it stood both for the actual
sum of money and then, by transference, it
was often applied to the happy possessor
of such a sum, who appears to have figured
as the ancestor of our modern millionaire.
Addison uses it in this latter sense when he
wrote of : " Several who were Plumbs, or
very near it, became men of moderate
fortunes." Fielding also, in his 'True
Patriot,' when advocating a certain course
of action, speaks of it as : "A thing highly
eligible by every good man, i.e., every
CHARLES MENMUIB, M.A.
25 Garscube Lane, Glasgow.
' FAPvEWEL FOLLY ' AND ' THE
AMOROUS MISER.'
SOME short time ago (ante, p. 254), I
remarked upon a strange confusion which
had arisen between two seventeenth-century
plays : Lee's 'The Tragedy of Nero ' and the
anonymous ' Piso's Conspiracy.' Something
like the same confusion appears to exist
also in the case of two later comedies,
the error having arisen no doubt from the
fact that both are comparatively rare,*
and that both have been given by their
respective authors the same sub -title.
' The Amorous Miser : or, The Younger
the Wiser ' is chronicled in Genest (' Some
Account of the English Stage,' 1820,
ii. 318) as acted at Drury Lane Theatre on
Jan. 18, 1705, under the name of ' Farewell
Folly,' its run being upwards of six nights
(ib., ii. 319). Genest follows Whincop and
other early historians of the eighteenth -
century stage in attributing it to Pierre
Antoine Motteux (Thomas Whincop, ' Scan-
derbeg : or, Love and Liberty .... To which
are added A List of all the Dramatic
Authors, with some Account of their Lives ;
and of all the Dramatic Pieces ever pub-
lished in the English Language, to the Year
1747,' 1747, p. 264). From the fact, how-
ever, that ' The Amorous Miser ' was issued
anonymously, and that another play, signed
by Motteux and styled ' Farewel Folly :
or, The Younger the Wiser,' " With a Musical
Interlude Call'd The Mountebank : or, The
Humours of the Fair," was published in
1707, it would seem that the two plays
must be reversed, and ' The Amorous Miser '
struck off Motteux's already lengthy list of
dramatic productions. The editors of the
' Biographia Dramatica ' realised that the
two comedies were separate, but confused
the matter still further by declaring that
' The Amorous Miser ' was " reprinted " in
1707 ('Biographia Dramatica,' 1812, ii. 25),
and that ' Farewel Folly ' was " little more
than an alteration and enlargement " of the
former play (ib., ii. 222). Neither of the
two productions are mentioned either in
Sir A. W. Ward's 'History of English
Dramatic Literature ' or in ' The Cam-
bridge History of English Literature ' (where
the Motteux bibliography in viii. 438 omits
both plays).
Pierre Antoine Motteux is a familiar
figure in early eighteenth-century dramatic
* Of the two, ' The Amorous Miser ' is in the
Bodleian Library, 'Farewel Folly' in the British
Museum.
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literature. A Frenchman by birth, he was
born in the year of the Restoration, 1660,
.-and, on the Revocation of the Edict of
Nantes, he journeyed to England, where he
ibecame a business magnate on a small
: scale, " had a very genteel place in the
• General Post Office, relating to foreign
letters," and provided the theatres with
upwards of seventeen or eighteen dramatic
pieces, besides translating ' Don Quixote '
from the original, and writing numerous
prologues, epilogues, and songs for plays
other than his own. A complete proficient
:in many languages, he assisted in acclima-
tising not only the Italian commedia dell' arte
;in England,* but also the Italian opera,
' Arsinoe, Queen of Cyprus ' (Drury Lane,
1705), and ' Thomyris, Queen of Scythia '
• (Drury Lane, 1707), both being his. It was
-during the production of these intended
tragic but really ludicrous musical dramas
;that the two comedies referred to above
;made their appearance.
' The Amorous Miser ' consists of three
:acts, and the Prologue informs us of it : —
To Night, Gallants, you're to expect from hence,
No Satyr, Smut, or luscious baudy Scenes,
The Poet's mannerly and cautious too.
And neither will affront himself, nor you ;
Faith both are needless, since 'tis done each Day,
By you who judge, and him who writes a Play.
'The cynicism with which such prologues
.and epilogues were written in the age of
Queen Anne is not so apparent here, for the
comedy does in reality not contain over-
much of that " Smut " which the Reverend
-Jeremy Collier had so inveighed against
; seven years previously. The plot deals
mainly with an old miser, Pedro by name,
who desires to marry his own son's fiancee.
'The misery of both the young people seems
assured when, like the old Vice in new
clothing, Diego, the servant of the youth,
-appears with his ready wit new-sharpened
by the extremity of the case, dresses him-
self as a Captain of Dragoons, gathers
together an unholy band of roistering
rascals of his acquaintance, pretends to the
•old Pedro that he is the young girl's brother,
quarters himself and his companions in his
house, and eventually frightens him, by his
noise and his voraciousness, into abandon-
ing his senile wishes and blessing the marriage
* Cf. 'Natural Magic After the Italian
Manner ' which is the fifth act of ' The
Novelty. Every Act a Play ' (Lincoln's Inn
Fields, 1697), and which introduces among other
characters Pantalone, Pasquarel, Mezzelin, and
Columbina. Motteux was indebted likewise to an
witraced Italian comedy for his first production,
"' Love's a Jest ' (Lincoln's Inn Fields, 1696).
which, this being a comedy or a farce, we
knew from the beginning was inevitable.
The play is, as I have said, unsigned by any
author's name, but from the phrase in the
Epilogue, ridiculing " L'pine's Italian
Squeak," it could surely not have been
penned by Motteux, as it was precisely the
type of opera which the Signora Margarita
L'Epine patronised that Motteux himself
was striving to introduce in England.
She did not appear in ' Arsinoe,' but in the
later ' Thomyris ' she took the principal
treble part. Such an insult as this Epi-
logue gives to her is hardly likely to have
come from a cosmopolitan like Motteux,
and one addicted to the same style of art
production.
' Farewel Folly ' is also farcical, which
the Prologue condones by declaring that
" Most Comedies owe something still to
Farce." Its plot, it is true, does deal with
a situation somewhat similar to that of
' The Amorous Miser,' — the loves of Old
Holdfast and of Young Holdfast for Isa-
bella— but the working out of the piece is
entirely and completely different. No less
than five persons " appear " as something
other than they are. Mariana, Old Hold-
fast's daughter " personates a young Rake,"
giving yet another of those female -male
characters which, initiated by Lyly and
Shakespeare, had their greatest popularity
in the days of Nell Gwynne, and, later, of
Mrs. Cross and of Mrs. Oldfield, the latter of
whom, in this particular case, sustained the
part. Again " Mimick, a Player, appears as
a Woman, a Bully, and a Frenchman,"
giving ample scope for cheap histrionic
effects. None knew better than Motteux
how to appeal to an actor's heart, and
incidentally, how to get his plays accepted.
Even from this brief sketch it is obvious
how diverse the two comedies are. The
latter of the pair is topical and ephemeral,
the other deals with a more fundamental
comic situation, and works the matter out
in an artistic manner. Much theatrical
allusion occurs in ' Farewel Folly,' such as
where we are told in Act I., sc. i. that
matters at the theatres are " very grave at
one House ; and not very merry at the other,
now no body comes behind the Scenes," or
where we are informed that there are more
new plays written in that age " than ever
will be launch' d," a palpable hit at the
motley mob of gentlemen amateurs of the
theatre, who in the eighteenth century
wrote, not with ease, but with the most
excessive and painstaking dullness. There
are also numerous other little allusions,
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likely to capture the interest of a contem-
porary audience, but noticeable to us
nowadays solely for their antiquarian value,
such as that to the "quondam Masks"
referring to the edict issued against the use
of those " Restoration " articles of feminine
attire, devised at first to conceal the
blushes which the ladies displayed at the
comedies of Dryden and of Etheredge, and
then employed to suggest that there were
blushes beneath where, in reality, were
none.
None of this appears, or could appear, in
* The Amorous Miser,' which, all through,
is the better play. Where it was produced
we do not know, but in any case its author-
ship is exceedingly doubtful, and any
further ascription to Motteux must rest on
new facts, hitherto unforthcoming, and not
on the probably confused and hearsay
evidence of eighteenth century chroniclers
of dramatic productions, fallible as these
too often, have proved themselves, and un-
critical in their methods and in their style.
ALLARDYCE NICOLL, M.A.
Oxford.
STATUES AND MEMORIALS IN THE
BRITISH ISLES.
(See 10 S. xi., xii. ; 11 S. i.-xii. ; 12 S.
i.-iv. passim ; v. 89, 145, 259.)
THE following information about Statues
and Memorials was compiled for MB. PAGE
shortly before his death, and is hitherto
unrecorded.
BOLTON.
Memorial Cross. — This memorial is . in
the form of a huge monolith, 20 ft. high,
erected on a circular base 10 ft. in
diameter, and surmounted by a bronze
cross ; is similar in design to the old cross,
which in a sense it perpetuates, and records
the various events of importance in the
town's annals.
The following is a list of historic events
inscribed on four bronze panels round the
base : —
1253. Bolton a free borough by Charter.
1256. Charter for market by Henry III. to Bodelton.
1337. Flemish clothiers settled.
1513. " Lusty lads from Bolton o' th' Moors "
(Ballad of * Battle of Flodden Field ').
1540. " Bolton-upon-Moor standeth most by cottons
and coarse yarns." (Leland).
1623. Lectureship founded for Sermons at Cross.
1631. Population 500.
164'. Grammar School founded.
1643-4. Daring Civil War Bolton besieged thrice
and taken once with much slaughter.
1651. James, Seventh Earl of Derby, beheaded
near this spot.
1661. "Bowlton hath a market on Mondays which*
is very good for clothing and provisions^.
and is a place of great trade for fustians."
(Blome's ' Britannia ').
1753. Crompton, Inventor of the Spinning Mule,.
the foundation of modern Cotton Industry,.
born in Bolton.
1760. Arkwright, Founder of the Cotton Factory
system, kept a barber's shop in Bolton.
1763. Cotton quiltings and muslins first made in>
Bolton.
1791. Bplion Canal opened.
1828. First railway to Bolton opened.
1832. First Parliamentary election.
Population 41,195.
1838. Charter of Incorporation.
1842. Parliamentary enquiry about extreme distress*
in town.
1852. Adoption of Free Libraries Act.
1861. Population 70,396.
1872. First extension of Bolton.
1877. Further extension.
Population 105,214.
1898. Bolton again extended.
1901. Population 168,215.
This cross, similar to one which stood on this--
spot 1486 to 1786. was presented to his native towrv
by Mr. George Harwood, M.P,, 1909.
The memorial was designed by Messrs.
Bradshaw & Gass, architects, Bolton, and
erected in 1909.
Samuel Taylor Chadwick (1809-1876).—
The bronze statue erected on the Town.
Hall Square is 10 ft. high on a Cornish
granite pedestal, 12 ft. high, represents Dr.
Chadwick in an ordinary frock coat,,
buttoned over, his right hand resting in the
lower part of the collar, and his left hand on
a book supported by a pillar, over which the
gown of a M.D. is thrown. A panel in bas
relief represents Mrs. Chadwick pointing out
to four children the orphanage erected by
her husband, which forms the background.
The statue was unveiled during the doctor's
lifetime on Aug. 1, 1873, the cost being
950Z ; the sculptor, C. B. Birch, of London,
and 17,000 townsmen contributed sub-
scriptions. The inscription is simply the
name, Chadwick.
Beaconsfield. — Erected in Queen's Park.
Statue by T. Rawcliffe, sculptor, of Chorley,
7 ft. 10 in. high, of grey freestone from the
Dalton pond quarry, weight 1 ton 10 cwt.
The inscription on the pedestal is : —
Benjamin Disraeli.
Earl of Beaconsfield, K.G.
On the base is the following : " Presented to-
the town of Bolton by the Bolton and
District Working Men's Conservative Asso-
ciation, April, 1887." Unveiled by the
Earl of Onslow, Under Secretary for the
Colonies, on April 30, 1887.
Lieut. -Col. Sir Benjamin A. Dobson. —
Bronze statue stands on a granite pedestals
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on the Town Hall Square. It bears the
! foil owing inscription : -
"Lieut.-Col. Sir B. A. Dobson, Knight, V.D.,
-JP., C.E., M.I.Mech.E.. Chevalier d« la Legion
-d'Honneur, 1847-1898 Erected by Public Subscrip-
tion to commemorate a useful life and services
to the town of Bolton, and unveiled by Mr.
Alderman Nicholson, J.P., February 17th, 1900.
J. Cassidy, Sculptor."
J. T. Fielding, J.P. — Unveiled in the
Queen's Park on July 11, 1896, by Lord
- James of Hereford, a statue in Yorkshire
stone executed by a local stone mason
named Bowden, from competitive designs
submitted by half-a-dozen tradesmen. It
stands 5 ft. 10| in. high, and is erected on a
stone base. It has the reputation of dis-
playing the worst pair of trousers in sculp-
ture, and is said to have cost 100Z. The
inscription is as follows : —
"J. T. Fielding, J.P., for over 20 years the
Secretary of the Operative Cotton Spinners
Association and the United Trades Council of
Bolton and District. Unity and Equity were the
guiding principles of his life."
The Bolton coat of arms is engraved on the
front of the pedestal. No dates are in-
scribed on the monument, but the man was
born in 1849, and died December, 1894,
; aged 45 years.
James Dorrian, M.D. (1826-1895). — This
monument in stone was raised by public
subscription to Dr. James Dorrian, J.P.,
and unveiled in the Queen's Park on
Jan. 29, 1898. The inscription on the
pedestal reads: "James Dorrian, 1826-95.
Erected by public subscription to com-
memorate a life of usefulness," the words
being encircled by a wreath.
The following busts are in the Town Hall,
Bolton : —
Nicholson (1825-1915). — Marble bust exe-
cuted by M. Albetill, of Bolton, a memorial
subscribed for by the public. Alderman
William Nicholson, J.P., was Mayor of
Bolton six times, and occupied all manner
of public offices. The bust was unveiled on
:<Sept. 5, 1894, and bears the following
inscription : —
William Nicholson, Mayor, 1892-3-4.
J. K. Cross, M.P. — White marble bust on a
pedestal of marble, with inscription : —
James Kynaston Cross,
Member of Bolton Town Council, 1868-9,
Borough Magistrate, 1874-1887.
County Magistrate, 1881-1887.
Member of Parliament for Bolton, 1874-1885.
Under Secretary of State for India, 1883-1885.
Bishop Fraser. — Marble bust on pedestal
of same material, with inscription : —
James Fraser, Lord Bishop of Manchester,
1870-1885.
King Edward VII.— Bust of King
Edward VII. unveiled on Dec. 16, 1912, by
the Mayor of Bolton (Alderman Dr. Young,
J.P.), and is the work of Sir George Framp-
ton, R.A. The architectural setting is com-
posed of Irish green marbles, the bust itself
:>eing of the finest Serravezza marble. In-
scription on centre column on which the
bust rests : "Edward VII., 1901-1910, erect-
ed by Public Subscription, 1912." Whilst on
one side of the column are the words : "A
great king ever anxious for his people's good
and peace among the nations," and on the
other "As Prince of Wales he opened the
Town Hall, on Thursday, June 5th, 1873."
The bust is surmounted by the Bolton arms,
with the motto Supera Moras.
ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
" HEDSILVER " : " DROFSILVER " AND
DROFCOURT " : " PERKSILVER." •— These
words occur in the Winchester College
accounts of 1411-12, in a passage relating
to the tourn or court that the Sheriff of.
Hampshire used to hold, apparently for the
hundred of Meonstoke : —
"In soluto Vicecomiti Suthamptonie mense
Novemhris pro quodam certo splvendo domino
Regi quolibet anno ex consuetudine in turno suo
tento apud Grynefelde, quod quidem certum
tenentes de Meonstoke solvere solebant ad turnum
predictum, vis. \ii\d. In soluto eidem pro quadair
consuetudine vocata Hedsilver,quam dicti teuentes
solvere solebant, ad ii. lagh. martini et hock tent,
apud Meonstoke ad ii. vices, iiii-9. Item eidem
Vicecomiti pro quadam cousuetudine vocata Drof-
silver ad ii. curias vocatas Drofcourtes, His. iilid.
Item eidem Vicecomiti pro quadam consuetudine
vocata Perksilver solvenda ad i curiam dicte curie,
vs. In dato ballivo huridredi ibidem ne distringat
tenentes domini ibidem pro dictis deuariis levandis,
xiid. In dato Johanni Serle pro amicitia sua
habenda in compoto suo in scaccario domini Regis
ad respectum [respite] dictis serviciis super com-
potum suum ibidem, xxd."
The ' N.E.D.' mentions " head-money "
and "head-pence," but not "head-silver."
' Wharton's Law-Lexicon ' ( 1 1th edition,
1911), however, gives: —
" Head-silver, dues paid to lords of leets ; also a
fine of 40?. which the Sheriff of Northumberland
exacted of the inhabitants twice in seven years."
Presumably it was a form of " chevage,"
which is defined in the ' N.E.D.' as : —
" Capitation or poll-money paid to a lord or
superior ; particularly, an annual payment due to a
feudal lord by each of his villeins."
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Neither " drof silver " nor " drof court "
occurs in the ' N.E.D.' ; but it has " Drof-
land. Old Law. Also ? dryfland and erron.
driftland," with a quotation of 1660 which
defines it as land " holden by the service
of driving," and gives some examples.
' Wharton,' on the other hand, says : —
"Drift-land, Drofland or Dryfland, a yearly rent
paid by some tenants for driving cattle through a
manor."
Under "Drove" (sb.) the 'N.E.D.'
mentions " drove-way " as a road or track
along which there is right of way for cattle,
and quotes from ' Rental Glaston.' (1239-52)
a passage containing " quoddam iter quod
vocatur Drofwei." I am reminded that the
lane along the south side of our playing-
fields here used to be known as " Bull
Drove " before the local authorities elected
to re-name it "Gamier Road" in memory of
Dean Gamier.
" Perksilver " does not seem to be in the
' N.E.D.' Probably " perk " is the same as
" park," an enclosure. Has any reader met
with " perksilver " ? What precisely does
it mean ?
The phrase "ad ii lagh.," &c., in my
quotation from the College accounts evi-
dently means " at two law-days at Martinmas
and hocktide." See "law-day" in the
'N.E.D.,' where " laghe-daye " occurs in a
quotation of 1331. H. C.
Winchester College.
THE THIRD REPORT OF THE ROYAL
COMMISSION ON PUBLIC RECORDS, just
published, includes a recommendation with
reference to the care of local records of a
public nature which should be of special
interest to the educated in some London
areas. Not only are these local records often
unknown until publicly advertised for sale,
but they are still more improperly cared for,
mutilated, or heedlessly destroyed. The
records of local courts of olden times, of
major and minor Corporations, Councils,
District Boards of Works, Paving and Road
Commissions, Administering Vestries under
the original Metropolis Local Government
Act, &c., and the maps and plans by which
they were assisted to conclusions, have
frequently been left in charge of ancient
solicitors or minor retired officials who
combined private business with their public
work, and kept such documents in their
private offices. The Commission now re-
commend that district repositories should be
established by which all records relating to
the area served shall be housed, catalogued,
and otherwise indexed. The long existing
and increasing chaos, and the indifference
of new authorities to their existing powers,,
form a serious obstruction to the labours-
of antiquaries, historians, and other research-
students. Such humble and not undeserving
or useless folks will certainly perceive the
propriety of the Commission's recommenda-
tion that the district repositaries should be
placed in charge of men trained to the work
of records-keeping in :the Public Record
Office, and that that Office should constantly
inspect and supervise the methods of cus-
tody and classification employed, and so-
gradually introduce a rational and uniform
system for the identification of all records
in the kingdom.
It has often been pointed out that one of;
our national defects is our invincible ignor-
ance of history ; and there is consequently
a lack of judgment in meeting emergencies-
similar to those in British or Continental
history. It is now cogently urged that thia
national ineptitude can perhaps be moderated
by the cultivation of the historical spirit ;
and none wull gainsay that one of the
essentials for the evolution of that spirit is a.
scientific appreciation of original evidence.
Not to mention other nations, the French
are greatly superior to us in historical
knowledge, and perhaps in political instinct
on foreign affairs, mainly because the-
materials for their historians are so well
arranged by archivists who make it the
business of their lives, that the historians-
themselves are relieved of the drudgery of
delving for facts and can devote themselves
to the elucidation of principles. Me.
A CURIOUS CHRISTIAN EPITAPH. — In
'Christian Inscriptions,' just issued by the -
Rev. H. P. V. Nunn, M.A., No. 30 is trans-
cribed thus : —
" Somno Aeternali. Aurelius Gemellus qui vixit
an...et Mes. VI11. Dies XVIlI, mater h'lio carissimo
Benemerenti fecit in pace commando Basilla inno-
centia Gemelli." (Lateran Museum).
" To Eternal Sleep. Aarelius Gemellus. who lived
...years, eight months, eighteen days. His mother
to her most dear and well-deserving son made (this)
in peace. I commend to Basilla the innocence of
Gemellus."
The inscription is, of course, in large Roman-
characters, and it exhibits three anomalies-
in structure. " Somno ./Eternali " is some-
what strange on a Christian tombstone,,
suggestive almost of a disbelief in immor-
tality, unless the expression be qualified/
by the common Catacomban "in pace.'"
Also " Commando " and " innocentia " must
have been illiterate blunders for Commends
and innocentiam. J. B. McGovERN.
St. Stephen's Rectory, C.-on-M., Manchester.
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315
"NEVER PROPHESY UNLESS YOU KNOW."
—A correspondent (8 S. vii . 346) wrote
•that
" A writer in The Spectator of March 30 [18951
shows that this phrase originated with Lowell, who
.makes Hosea Biglow say :—
My gran'ther's rule was safer'n 'tis to crow ;
Don't never prophesy onless you know.
The following appears in a letter from
Horace Walpole to his nephew Thomas
Walpole, Minister Plenipotentiary at Munich,
-dated Berkeley Square, Feb. 9, 1785 : —
" Prognostics do not always prove prophecies —
at least the wisest prophets make sure of the event
iirst." — ' Some Unpublished Letters of Horace
Walpole,' edited by Sir Spencer Walpole, 1902,
p. 89.
ROBERT PIERPOINT.
' ST. STEPHEN AND HEROD.' — The
iballad called ' St. Stephen and Herod ' is
preserved in a single MS. version. The
legend with which it deals still lives in
Scandinavian tradition. Child in his ' Eng-
lish and Scottish Popular Ballads ' wrote
that there exists in Sweden and Denmark
what is called a ' Staff ans Visa,' which
"was wont to be sung all over Sweden on
•St. Stephen's Day in the Christmas sport, nob yet
given up, called Staffan.*skede, which consisted in
-young fellows riding about from house to bouse
*arly in the morning of the second day ot Yule, and
levying refreshments."
A similar custom exists in Ireland, with
which the following lines are associated : —
The wren, the wren, the king of all birds,
•On St. Stephen's Day he was caught in the furs
(lurch),
-Although he is little his family is great,
"Come, pray, my good landlady, give us a treat,
And if you fill it of the best,
1 hope in heaven your soul may rest ;
Bub if you fill it of the small,
It won't agree with our wren-boys at all.
An Irish version of these words is to be
found in a work called ' Siamsa an Gheim-
Ihridh,' published at Dublin m 1892. The
'Custom of hunting the wren appears to be a
(prevalent one in the West of Ireland, for
I read the following protest against the
•custom in a tetter to the editor of a Dublin
rnewspaper : —
"Sir,— 'I hope everyone will kindly help in the
suppression of cruelty to the wren this coming
St. Stephen's Day, by refusing money to children
-who may bring them round, dead or alive, in boxes,
as is the custom still in some out-of-the-way places.
This is the only way by which this cruelty to wrens
can be put a stop to.5" — The Freeman's Journal.
Dublin, Dec. 24, circa 1918.
'The wren is also referred to in ' Irish Folk-
JLore,' pp. 135-6, by Lageniensie.
In a previous note (12 S. iii. 168, 'The
Cock : the Carving of a Legend ') I referred
to the story of Herod's cock, which the
ballad of ' St. Stephen and Herod ' enshrines.
Some interesting notes on this legend will
be found in a book of Ulster proverbs,
'Seanfhocla Uladh,' pp. 148-9, ed. Morris.
JOSEPH J. MACSWEENEY.
:* Howth, co. Dublin.
RIME ON DR. FELL. — The well-known
impromptu verse, by means of which a
schoolboy is said to have avoided a flogging,
appears to be not so entirely original as is
commonly thought. Quoting from memory,
it ran somewhat like this : —
I do not love you, Doctor Fell,
The reason why I need not tell,
Of this assured, 1 know full well,
I cannot love you, Doctor Fell.
Apparently it is founded upon a passage in
Catullus, which commences : " Non amo
te Volusi," and was Englished by Thomas
Nabbes so far back as 1638, thus : —
I do not love thee, Volusius, but for what
Know not. I only know 1 loue thee not.
See Knolles, ' Generall historie of the
Turkes 1638,' (second pagination) p. 23.
W. JAGGARD, Capt.
Central Registry, Repatriation Records,
Winchester.
PERSISTENT ERROR. — In an old copy of
Jeremy Taylor's ' Holy Living ' that has
lost its title, but is probably of about 1700,1
find in Sect. II., chap, ii., p. 57: "The
Quails stuck in their nostrils," apparently a
misprint for "stunk." But the same
reading is given in an Oxford edition of 1849.
J. T. F.
Winterton, lanes.
LITERATURE AND ICONOGRAPHY OF
LONDON PEACE CELEBRATIONS. (See ante,
pp. 175, 213). — At the first reference I dis-
missed, perhaps too briefly, the showman's
interest in these celebrations, yet to record
all the panoramas and exhibitions that
sought to perpetuate the glory of the
achievement while earning a profit would
have required several pages. Yet I am
tempted to record two very unfamiliar
celebrations of the Crimean campaign.
There was an exhibition at 83 Fleet Street
(November, 1854) of " Russian Prizes !
Trophies taken from the Great Fort of
Bomarsund, consisting of military accoutre-
ments, sacerdotal robes and many other
interesting objects. Admittance Qd. each."
From the style of the handbill I infer this
did not persist more than a few weeks.
To commemorate the Peace there had
been painted by Thomas Jones Barker
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" The celebrated National Picture of the
Allied Generals before Sebastopol with the
officers of their Respective Staffs."
The four - page pamphlet is without
identification of place of exhibition, but it
probably was shown in many towns.
Finally, it was warehoused at the Pantech-
nicon in Motcomb Street, Belgrave Square,
where it was destroyed in the fire there
February, 1874. It measured in its frame
about 21 feet by 10 feet 4 inches.
ALECK ABRAHAMS.
51, Rutland Park Mansions, N.W.2.
We must request correspondents desiring in-
formation on family matters of only private interest
to affix their names and addresses to their queries,
in order that answers may be sent to them direct.
EDMUND UVEDALE. — Arising out of the
series of articles on ' Dr. Robert Uvedale,
the Botanist ' (12 S. ii. 361, et seq.), may I
ask if there is a place in the pedigree of the
family for an army officer named Edmund
Uvedale ? Dalton's ' George I.'s Army,
1714-27,' vol. i. p. 278, gives the commission
of Edward (sic) Uvedale to be surgeon
(July 22, 1715) to Sir Robert Rich's newly-
raised Regiment of Dragoons, which went
to Ireland, June 25, 1717, and was disbanded
in November, 1718, when its officers were
placed on half-pay. The Half-Pay List,
1726, has a note that Ensign Henry Waldron
was placed on half-pay of Sir Robert Rich's
regiment, having " Exch. wth. Surgeon
Edind. Uvedall, Dec. 25, 1721 "; and this
is corroborated by the Commission on the
same date to Edmund Uvedall to be ensign
in Col. Stanhope Cotton's 13th Regiment of
Foot (Dalton, vol. ii. p. 296), evidently in the
room of Waldron to half-pay.
There are several instances in the Georgian
period of surgeons receiving militant com-
missions, either when they held both
commissions together as an augmentation of
pay for past services, or, as in this instance,
the lancet was exchanged for the sword.
In any case this Edmund Uvedale appears
no more in the role of surgeon. Dalton does
not give the date when he left the 13th Foot
(though he states that fresh ensigns were
appointed to it on Dec. 22, 1722, Feb. 11,
1722/3, and May 9, 1723), and was made
cornet to the Colonel's Own Troop in Col.
Wm. Stanhope's (afterwards Lord Harring-
ton's) 13th Regiment of Dragoons in Ireland,
but as his commission as such was renewed
by George II. on Sept. 15, 1727, he must
have joined the latter regiment before that
date, probably on one of the three above
given in 1722 or 1723 ; but the exact date
cannot be definitely ascertained for the
reason that the Irish Com. Reg. for June,
1720, to June, 1724, is missing. Neither
does the Army Gradation List, 1728, assist
to put matters right, as it simply says :.
" Harrington's. Cornet Edmond Uvedall,
Feb. 24, 1710. Qy. as Ens." The similar
list for 1736 has it: " Edmd. Uvedall,.
Feb. 24, 1710/11. Pearce's," and as this
gave the date of his rank in the army
(different from his rank in his regiment) it
appears that he must have first been made
ensign on Feb. 24, 1710/11, though in what
regiment I cannot say, as I have not vol. v_.
of Dalton's work to refer to ; neither can I
say if he was also a regimental surgeon at
that date. He was transferred ccrnet to-
the Colonel's Own Troop in Lieut, -Gen.
Owen Wynne's (afterwards Lieut. -Gen.
Thomas Pearce's, and Lord Tyrawley's)1
1st Regiment of Horse in Ireland (now
4th Dragoon Guards) on Oct. 15, 1730, and'
was lieutenant (of the Lieutenant-Colonel's
Troop) therein from Nov. 12, 1741, until?
his death shortly before Feb. 3. 1745/6, when.
his successor was appointed.
W. R WILLIAMS.
BULTEEL : CABRIQUE : HAYNES :
—Wanted, evidence of marriages of the
following : John Carrique, an Englishman
appointed a commissioner to survey forfeited
lands in co. Kerry, 1654 ; Samuel Haynes of
Cornhill, married in or before 1785, probably
in Norfolk ; Rev. Richard Swanne of
Ilmington, co. Warwick, married in or
before 1759 ; any Bulteels married in the-
eighteenth century. The Gentleman's Maga-
zine has been searched. Please reply direct^
(Sir) ALFRED IRWIN..
49 Ailesburv Road, Dublin.
"WE FOUR FOOLS." — I have acquired
recently an old Dutch, painting of three
grotesque figures, dancing in clothes adorned
with curious emblems. Years ago I bought
in France a small engraving of it, but there
is no name of the painter, engraver, or
publisher, upon it.
At the bottom of the painting, on .a.
black band, is inscribed " We Four Fools,"
while under the engraving is " Gaudemus,
quia te prsesente, stulti quatuor."
Perhaps some reader may be able to give-
me some information about the picture.
LEES KNOWLES, Bt..
4 Park Street, W.I.
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n TRADESMEN'S CARDS AND BILL-HEADS. —
I" should be extremely obliged if any
collectors of the above will have the kindness
to send me particulars of any trade cards
>and bill -heads of old picture framers, picture
dealers, and mirror makers, and also of
ironmongers, especially of such examples
(before 1850) which have engravings of
frames or metal domestic utensils.
JOHN LANE.
The Bodley Head, Vigo Street, W.I.
" EST MELIUS NUNQUAM FELICIA TEMPORA
NOSSE, &c." — In Holinshed's ' Chronicles,'
reprint 1807-8, vol. iii. p. 478, is the following,
applied to the end of Richard III. : —
Est melius nunquam felicia tempora nosse,
Quam post blanditias fortunes, fata maligna
Nee reparanda pati infortunia sortis iniquse.
'The marginal reference is " T. Wat. in Am.
Quer. 7." What is the interpretation of the
reference ? ROBERT PIERPOINT.
BURNING OF FIRE -SHIP FIREBRAND AT
FALMOUTH IN 1780. — I shall be greatly
obliged for any information (sent direct)
•concerning the fire-ship Firebrand, which
was burnt and sank in Falmouth harbour
.about the year 1780.
(Lady) CONSTANCE RUSSELL.
•Swailowfield Park, Reading.
KING RESCUED BY HIS DOGS. — In Close
"Roll, 40 Henry III. : —
" The King — in presence of Master William the
Monk of Westminster — lately ordained and pro-
vided at Winchester for making a picture at
Westminster, in wardrobe where the King is wont
to wash his head, of the King who was rescued by
,his dof/s from sedition plotted against same King by
Ms subjects; concerning which picture the King has
sent other letters to Edward of Westminster. And
Philip Luvel the King's treasurer and the aforesaid
Edward of W. are ordered to pay without delay to
same Master William the expense and cost of
making same picture. Winchester, 30 June."
Where did Henry of Winchester and his
1 painter-monk find the subject of this
/picture ? A. R. BAYLEY.
PARKS (OR PERKS) FAMILY. — I would be
grateful for any information concerning the
earlier history of this family, who bore for
.arms : Or, three rests gules. Tradition has
it that one of the family was a standard
.;bearer in the army of William the Conqueror
. at Senlac and was knighted after the battle.
But I have been unable to trace any pedi-
gree, or other information, in Kent or
-Sussex Visitations, where it is supposed to
Jaave originally been settled.
H. WILBERFORCE-BELL.
-.21 Park Crescent, Oxford.
AMOS RUSSEL, OF LINCOLN, married
secondly at Amsterdam, in January, 1729.
He was widower of Cathlene Dorey, and had
by her a daughter called Hannah, aged three
at the time of his second marriage. He was
in the habit of using the arms of the Bedford
family, and a painting of these arms of about
1750 is in the possession of his descendants
in the Netherlands. They are anxious to
discover whether there existed a branch of the
Russell family at Lincoln at the end of the
Seventeenth Century, wherein the names of
Amos and Hannah occur. Amos Russel
became a Roman Catholic, and was since that
change known as Amos Jacobus. He is
mentioned at the time of his death, in 1765, as
a manufacturer of silk hosiery. Will some
reader specialising on the Russell family
kindly oblige my correspondent ?
W. DEL COURT.
47 Blenheim Crescent, W.ll.
STREET NAMES. — On a recent sale of land
at Castle Donington, Leicestershire, pro-
perties were described as situate in* the
Spital, in Clapgun Street, and in the Barroon.
Are similar names to the two last known
elsewhere ? May Clapgun be a corruption
of Clapgate, and Barroon of Barony ? The
names do not seem derivable from those of
individuals. W. B. H.
* IN FLANDERS' FIELDS.' — I would be
glad to know if the poem ' In Flanders'
Fields,' by Lieut. -Col. McCrae of the
Canadian army, and ' America's Reply,' by
R. W. Lillard, have been published in
England, and if so, in what publication.
J. H.
HAMILTON OF LISCLOONY. — David Crosbie,
High Sheriff of Kerry 1683, father of Sir
Maurice Crosbie, who was created Baron
Brandon 1758, married Jane, daughter and
co-heir of William Hamilton of Liscloony,
King's Co., 1680. Who was the wife of this
William Hamilton and to what branch of
the Hamilton family did he belong ?
A. W. WALLIS-TAYLER.
NORTH OF ENGLAND. — Can any reader
definitely state which part of England is
the north ? At ante, p. 246, MR. TAVARE,
speaking of Philip Westcott, the portrait
painter (1815-1878), says his practice was
principally in the North of England, notably
in Liverpool and Manchester — two cities in
Lancashire, and MAJOR BALDOCK in his
reference to the Rev. Thomas Hugo, ante,
p. 248, says he served several curacies in the
North of England, but does not mention
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them. They were, however, Walt on -le
Dale and Childwall and Bury, all places in
Lancashire. Residents north of the river
Tees consider Northumberland, Durham,
Cumberland and Westmorland, as forming
the North of England and look on Lancashire
and Yorkshire as North Midlands.
J. W. FAWCETT.
Consett, co. Durham.
* BERTRAM DE BOURNE.' — Information is
wanted about this ballad, of which the
following is the first verse : —
Why do the Island banners gleam.
The Island knighfcs advance,
'Midst strains of war-like minstrelsy,
Across the plains of France?
I hear it was a popular item for recitation
about half a century ago. I should like to
see the complete ballad if any one happens
to know where it is to be found.
GEORGE MAXWELL, Sub -Librarian.
Linen Hall Library, Belfast.
MRS. SIDDONS. — Can any of your readers
inform me whether there are any descendents
of Mrs. Siddons the great actress still living
and where ? (Miss) MARY NORTH.
25 East Parade, He worth, York.
COUNTLESS STONES AT AYLESFORD. — Is
there any reliable bibliography concerning
the ancient remains known as the Countless
Stones, at Aylesford on the Medway, near
Maidstone ? J. LANDFEAR LUCAS.
Glendora, Hindhead, Surrey.
WALTER HAMILTON, F.R.G.S. — Inserted
in an album of press cuttings I noticed a
series of articles headed ' Leaves from ' a
Library,' and such jottings as ' Bookworm
on Book-Plates ' from Mr. Hamilton's pen.
In which serial did they appear ? Were
they ever gathered together into an author's
issued volume ? ANEURIN WILLIAMS.
Menai View, North Road, Carnarvon.
TAIR MILE.'— In The Times of Aug. 13
last, in an article entitled 'Fair Mile: a
Prehistoric Road,' there is mention of the
" King's standing wood " and of an ancient
custom called "lay the king's table cloth."
Can any one give more information on the
subject ? J. S.
THE REV. JOHN THEOPHILUS DESAGULIERS.
D.C.L., F.R.S. — Can any correspondent tell
me the date of his marriage and the name of
his wife ? The ' Diet. Nat. Biog.' xiv. 400
says that he left three sons : John Theo-
philus (1718-52) and Thomas (1725 ?-80),
but does not give the name of the other son.
Can any one supply it ? G. F. R, B,
LAWRENCE WODECOCKE, J. who entered
Winchester College from St. Dunstan's in,
the East, London, aged 13, in 1505, pro-
ceeded in due course of New College, Oxford,,
where he was Fellow from 1510 to 1520 and!
took the degrees of B.C.L. in 1516-17 and!
B.Can.L. in 1532. He held the Wykehami-
cal prebends in Chichester Cathedral of
Exceit from 1521 to 1522 and of Wyndham
from 1529 to 1560. He was Vicar of Hartfieldl
1523-4 to 1525, and of Eastbourne 1524-5 to>
1527, of Wartling 1529 to 1545, and of West
Dean, near Chichester, from 1554-5 to 1560.
He was also Rector of All Saints', Lewes, and
of Rodmell in 1527, and of Patching from
1545, being succeeded in the last rectory in
1567. He is also said to have been Vicar of
Boxgrove. Is anything further known about
him ? JOHN B. WAINE WRIGHT.
" BONFIRE NIGHT." — Are^ these, doggerel
lines known ? I am told that^ they are
repeated by children at. Birmington, near
Chesterfield, on Nov. 5.
Bonfire night !
The moon shines bright.
Forty little angels dressed in white*
Can you eat a biscuit ? . '
Can you smoke a pipe *
Can you go a-courting
At ten o'clock at night?
G. C. MOORE SMITH.
Sheffield.
"IF I SHOULD DIE TO-NIGHT."— Sir
Edward Cook, in his ' More Literary Re-
creations,' has a discussion on the much-
xercised question of the authorship of the-
poem, beginning " If I should die to-night."
He writes as follows : —
"These verses have made a wide appeal to
curiously different minds. Sir H. Rider Haggard,
in * Jess,' made his heroine write them out before
she set forth to kill Frank Muller. The author
of ' Jess ' had received them from a lady friend in
South Africa, whose work he supposed them to be.
They had, however, been already printed in a very
different connection, having appeared under the
title 'The Chamber of Peace* in an American
anthology of religious verse called ' My Com-
forter,' whilst my copy of them was cut out of the
English Public Opinion of July 22, 1876. A claim,
has been put in lor Australia as the place of origin,
as the verses were printed in a book called 'Ade-
laide de la Thoreza,' by a Dr. Cameron of - Rich-
mond (in Victoria). Prof. James Stewart ascribed
the verses to Theodore Parker (in a letter of 188&
to Mrs. Drew, 'Some Hawarden Letters,' p. 130.
The question was the subject of a long correspon-
dence in the Pall Mall Gazttte of March, 1887, and
following months) ; but an equally definite claim
has been made for Philadelphia. In the Press of
that city they were said to be the work of a local
resident, Mr. R. C. Vivian Myers, who, it wa&
added, 'has written much that is excellent, but
noth pg ie approach these famous verses, which,
12 S. V.DEC., 1919. J
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319
are universally regarded as classic.' For many
years ' this little gem ' was a favourite piece, it
seems, with a favourite reciter. Mr. Myers was
stated to bs alive, but, so far as I am aware, he
did not come forward to establish the claim."
Can any reader throw fresh light on the
matter ? LA WHENCE PHILLIPS.
Theological College, Lichn'eld.
BREEDING OF WOODCOCKS. — Could the
following story from Rev. Wm. B. Daniel's
* Rural Sports,' vol. iii., pp. 167-8 (1812), be
verified at Somerset House or elsewhere ? —
" Mr. Jeremiah Tnpmau, who died about nineteen
years since -circa 1793] at Berkeley, caught upon his
estate at Lyston a young male woodcock, which he
carefully reared, and having procured a mate for it
they bred in considerable abundance. He was so
pleased with his success that he actually altered
his will, which was originally made in favour of a
young Lady, and left his fortune to the Minister al
Berkeley, to be principally laid out in the breed ol
Woodcocks, upon the neglect of which the fortune
was to revert to the family relations, a reversion for
which probably the family were not long in
expectancy."
HUGH S. GLADSTONE.
GREEN HOLLY. — The refrain to Amiens's
song ' Blow, Blow, thou Winter Wind,' in
' As You Like It ' (II. vii.), is : —
Heigh-ho ! sing, heigh-ho ! unto the green holly :
Most friendship is feigning, most loving mere folly
Then, heigh-ho, the holly !
This life is moat jolly.
As to the invocation of the green holly in
connexion with jollity there is no note in
Malone or any other edition of Shakespeare
to which I have access, except that in Horace
Howard Furness's Variorum Edition of the
play (Philadelphia, 1890) there is the
following : —
" HALLIWELL : Songs of the holly were current
long before the time of Shakespeare. It was the
emblem of mirth."
Can any reader give references to sub-
stantiate this statement, and explain why
holly was the emblem of mirth ?
C. A. COOK.
Sullingstead, Hascombe, Godalming.
" CELLARIUS." — In the ' Comic History of
England,' vol. ii., p. 132, " [Guy] Fawkes
kept up a regular Cellarius," and to this
there is a note : —
" We may as well state, for the benefit of that
posterity which this work will reach and the Cell-
arius will not, that the Cellarius is a dance fashion-
able in the year 1847 when this history was written."
I have looked up the word in the ' N.E.D.'
and in Punch of 1847, but can find nothing
about it. What was this dance, and why was
it so named ? J. J. FREEMAN.
Shepperton, S.O.
HARRY TAYLOR of Lending, near Rochdale,
o. Lancashire, and Townhead, Lake Wir.der-
mere, who died August, 1723, married
Dorothy, daughter of Thomas Sandys, a son
of Samuel Sandys of Esthwaite, Lancashire.
Information is sought about his parents
and brothers.
Was he related to James Taylor of
Whitworth, co. Lancashire, buried at Roch-
dale 1789 ? H. C. BARNARD.
The Warren, Burnham, Somerset.
GEORGE DEERING. — I should be very
grateful to any correspondent who could
give me authentic information regarding the
parentage of George Deering. The following
facts are known : He was in Dartmouth
1584-5, and disappeared from there about
1627. He married (1) Margery [Adams],
who was buried at Dartmouth, July 16, 1619 ;
(2) Fridiswide, a French widow, in 1619,
She was buried at Dartmouth, 1666. George
Deering does not appear to have returned to
Dartmouth after 1627.
CLEMENT INGLEBY.
22 Old Buildings, Lincoln's Inn, W.C.2.
RICHARD PROSSER OF BIRMINGHAM, CIVLL
ENGINEER. — I shall be glad to receive any
information as to the parentage of the above
named, who was my grandfather and the
father of your long-time correspondent
R. B. P. According to an article in The
Birmingham Journal for May 27, 1854.
Richard Prosser was born at Birmingham
on April 3, 1804. He obtained various
patents between the years 1839 and 1853, in
the earlier of which he is described as of
Cherry Street, Birmingham, and in the later
ones as of King's Norton, near Birmingham,
where he died on May 21, 1854. Please
reply direct. G. PROSSER.
26 Crowndale Road N.W.I.
MINIATURE MAN-OF-WAR. — Is there any-
thing known of an admiral or old naval
officer, about 1700, who had a small man-of-
war, large enough for him to sit in, and
complete with miniature cannon and sail ?
This small man-of-war was towed round a
pond, possibly in the garden of a private
house, by a sailor with a wooden leg. On
one side of the pond was a miniature fort at
which the naval officer could fire off his
cannon. CHARLES E. FRANCE:.
30 Albert Street, Shrewsbury.
WM. HAWKINS : ANNE WALTON.— In 1678
Dr. Wm. Hawkins married Anne, only
daughter of Izaak Walton. Dr. Hawkins
was prebend of Winchester and rector of
I Droxford. Can any of your readers tell me
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the exact date of the marriage and where it
took place ? The ceremony was not per-
formed at Winchester Cathedral or at
Droxford Church ; neither was it at
St. Dunstan's-in-the-West, or St. James's,
Olerkenwell, with both of which churches
Walton was intimately connected. It is
very possible, however, that it took place
in London, as there is no doubt that Walton
spent a part, at any rate, of 1676 in the
metropolis. W. COTJBTHOPE FOBMAN.
Compton Down. Cotnpton, near Winchester.
" HOBSELEPEBDE." — Can any of your
readers throw light on the meaning of the
word " Horseleperde,' which occurs in the
* Perambulations of the Forest of Chippen-
ham (or Pewsham) ' of A.D. 1300 ? The
perambulations are given in The Wiltshire
Archceological Magazine, vol. iv., p. 206
(1858). If any one can quote other instances
of the word, or can identify four other points
in these perambulations — the bridge of Sam-
born, the bridge of Fynnam, the house of
Home, and the ash of Lacock — I should be
glad to be informed, directly or in the columns
of ' N. & Q.' O. G. S. CBAWFOBD.
Tan House, Donnington, Newbury.
COLLINGWOOD AND LAWSON. — Alexander
Collingwood of Little Ryle (b. 1666, d. Jan. 3,
and bur. Jan. 7, 1746, at Whittinghame),
who built the house of Unthank, and served
as High Sheriff of Northumberland in 1725.
He married Dorothy Lawson. I shall be
grateful for any information as to the par-
entage and ancestry of Dorothy Lawson.
H. PlBIE-GOBDON.
20 Warwick Gardens, Kensington, W.14.
CHBISTMAS CABOL : OBTGIN WANTED.—
Can any of your readers throw light on the
origin of a Christmas carol which begins : —
To-morrow shall be mv dancing day.
It is included in Mr. A. H. Bullen's ' Christ-
mas Garland,' but his account of its origin
does not go further than saying that it was
one of an issue of broadsheets.
(Mrs.) GEOBGINA WILSON.
14 College, Worcester.
FLETCHEB OF MADELEY AND NOBTH
WALES. — When reading a short account of
the life of this wonderful man the other day
I was surprised to find that he was " or-
dained priest " by the Bishop of Bangor in
1757. Could any one who has access to a
detailed account of Fletcher's life let me
know whether his ordination meant any
ministerial connexion with the diocese of
Bangor ? T. LLECHID JONES.
Llysfaen Rectory, Colwyn Bay.
CISTEBCIAN OBDEB. — I want to get
together materials for a history of the
Cistercian Order in England. I shall be
glad of help as to the sources of information
concerning the Order, beside, of course,
Dugdale's ' Monasticon,' Tanner's ' Notitia
Monastica,' and the proceedings of the various
archaeological societies, though particular
reference to these would be welcome.
H. P. HABT.
The Vicarage, Ixworth, Bury St. Edmunds.
' Swiss FAMILY ROBINSON.' — I should be
glad to get information regarding the first
edition of this book in English. I fancy it
was published under the title of ' The
Family Robinson Crusoe,' translated from
the German of M. Wiss.
PBESCOTT Row.
The Old House, Waddon. Surrey.
MEDIAEVAL IMMTJBEMENT. — G. F. Nicolai,
in his ' Biology of War ' (Eng. trans., p. 105),
writes : —
''During the whole of the Middle Ages almost
all European nations used to wall up a livjnor heing
in a newly-huilt building, in order that his soul
might become its guardian spirit."
Can any reader refer me to discussions of
this (books and periodical, any chief
language) ? LAU-DZA.
DANVEBS FAMILY. — I would like very
much to know, for historical purposes, who
represents the Danvers family of baronets.
There was a Sir John Danvers in the early
nineteenth century.
DAVID Ross McCoBD.
MoCord National Museum. Montreal.
ELMES FAMILY. — Information desired as
to present whereabouts of MB. HILL-
BATHGATE'S MS. (dated 1653), referred to at
8 S. i. 495. E. H. ELMES.
18 Homesgarth, Letchworth, Herts.
LONGWOBTH CASTLE, HEBEFOBDSHIBE. —
Does this castle still exist and are any
records available ?
A. W. WALLIS-TAYLEB.
GBAFTON, OXON. — In what part is this
situated and where are its historical records
to be found ? A. W. WALLIS-TAYLEB.
THE LOG HOUSE. — Is it known that the
inhabitants of the British Isles at any time,
at least since the fifteenth century, built
dwellings or forts (the latter called block
houses) by placing logs horizontally in the
form of a square and notching them together
at the corners in the style of Scandinavia and
North America ? H. C. MEBCEB.
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LIEUT. -GENERAL SHARPE. — According to
a pedigree of Higgins of Skelton Grange by
Owston, Yorkshire, in, Hunter's 'South
Yorkshire,' ii. 482, Lieut. -General Sharpe
of Haddam Castle, co. Northumberland,
married Jane, elder daughter of Godfrey
Higgins, Esq., of Skelton Grange, F.S.A.,
J.P., of West Riding of co. York, who was
living in 1831, by his wife Jane Thorpe, who
died in 1822. Where is Haddam Castle,
Northumberland, and what more is known
of Lieut. -General Sharpe ? I. F.
MAISON ROUGE, FRANKFORT. — J. C.
Eustace in his preliminary discourse to his
* Classical Tour through Italy ' (the preface
to which is dated Sept. 14, 1812), says that
the advantages of a warm room, a news-
paper, and a well-stored larder, though
common enough, at home, " are not to be
found in any inn on the Continent, not even
Dessin's at Calais or the Maison Rouge at
Frankfort." For the former, see 12 S.
iv. 187, 248. Information about the latter
would be interesting.
JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.
SMALE. — I should be glad to obtain any
information about the following Smales,
who were educated at Westminster School : —
(1) George Smale, who was at the school,
1802-3
(2) H. L. Smale, who wa^ at the school
in 1801.
(3) William Adderley Smale, born Apr. 25,
1816, who was admitted to the school,
Jan. 15, 1830. G. F. R. B.
WILSON. — Major Wilson, the grandfather
of Sir Robert Wilson and father of Benjamin
Wilson (see ' D.N.B.'), had fourteen children,
of whom Joseph Wilson, born 1707, was one
('Leeds Registers,' Thoresby Society).
Is anything known of him ? Did he go to
Ireland, and was his son, or grandson, agent
to the first Lord Londonderry ? I should
be grateful for any information about him,
or about any other sons of Major Wilson other
than Benjamin. H. W. B.
PRINCE JAMES FRANCIS EDWARD STUART.
— Can any of your readers give an accurate
answer to the following question ?
What is the correct legal title of Prince
James Francis Edward Stuart, sometimes
known as the Chevalier de St. George ?
Born at Whitehall, the son of a king-
regnant of England, he was at any rate
Duke of Cornwall, and is so described by
Burke (see the Royal Lineage, preceding
Burke's ' Peerage '). On the other hand,
the 'D.N.B.' styles him Prince of Wales,
and when mentioned in letters of the period
written very shortly after his birth (including
those of the Prince and Princess of Orange),
he is spoken of as Prince of Wales, or, when
it suited the writers, " the pretended Prince
of Wales." What I wish to ask is this :
When was James, Duke of Cornwall, created
Prince of Wales ? Inquiries at the Record
Office elicit the reply that no letters-patent
of such a creation have ever passed the
Great Seal, yet James II. (then still king-
regnant) authorised a publication in October,
1688, of the depositions of those who were
present at the birth of his son, and in this
James is termed " Prince of Wales."
A. J. ARBUTHNOT.
8 Albert Court, Kensington Gore, !3.\V.7.
CHARLES HOWARD HODGES : ENGRAVER.
— He appears to have adopted another
name* for signing some of his work, but I
cannot trace it, and there is not any men-
tion of it in the ' D.N.B.' I have been told
that The Gentleman's Magazine had a note
of it, but a diligent search has not helped
me. I ask for information.
XYLOGRAPHER.
THE THUMB LATCH. — Is the common door
latch, of wrought iron or other metal or wood,
with thumb press upon a lever or lift which
penetrating the door, raises the latch bar
from its catch, an English invention and
unknown on the European Continent, and
is it known that the lever on all the older
latches was straight ? If so, when and by
whom was the end of this lever, where it
passes under the latch bar, curved downward
so that, as now, the forefinger can lift the
latch bar and pull the door open at the same
time ? Information as to the above points,
which would facilitate the dating of old
houses, would oblige. H. C. MERCER.
" THE BEAUTIFUL MRS. CONDUITT." — In a
volume of reminiscences or letters published
in the first half of the last cemury, this
expression occurs. It was recalled to me
recently in looking up some details of Sir
John Soane, R.A. According to The Gentle-
man's Magazine of June, 1838, Sir J. Soa;?.e
left a legacy of 5,OOOZ. to Mrs. Conduitt, who
was, I believe, "matron " or curatrix of the
Soane Museum in Lincoln's Inn Fields.
At the west end of the nave of West-
minster Abbey there is a tablet to the
memory of Joannes Conduitt, whose remains,
together with those of his greatest friend
(and his uncle by marriage) Sir Isaac
322
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 8. V. DEC., 1919.
Newton. According to the Latin epitaph,
into which the Greek word philanthropsia
is incongruously introduced, Conduitt, who
had been Master of the Mint for ten or
twelve years, left an only daughter, who
married Lord Lymington. So that the
name and its spelling could not have been
perpetuated by that lady. I have been told
that there was in the last century a Master
of the Fruiterers' Company of London
bearing the name spelt also with two t's.
Can any of your readers identify the
" beautiful Mrs. Conduitt " or throw any
light on her family ? L. G. R.
ANN OF SWANSEA. — This lady poet pub-
lished ' Poetic Trifles,' 12mo, Waterford,
1831, also 'Cambrian Pictures,' &c. Who
was she ? Brief particulars will oblige.
ANETJBIN WILLIAMS.
Menai View, North Road, Carnarvon.
AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED. — •
1. I should be greatly obliged if I could be
informed who is the author of a little poem
beginning : —
In summer when the vales are clear
And lowlands blithe with flowery heights.
1 thought it was one of Hartley Coleridge's, but
I cannot find it in my edition of liis poems.
P. T. CRESWELL.
57 Esm6 Road, Sparkhill, Birmingham.
2. I should be glad to know the author of the
following linen, and where they appear : —
Say not good-night, but in some brighter clime
Bid me good-morn. MOLLOID.
3. Can any of your readers supply the name of
the author and the poem in which occur the lines
beginning : —
Blest be the man who first invented sleep,
feo Sancho Panza said, and so say I.
I have searched several Dictionaries of Quotations
and the like without success. W. H.
4. In Arizona caught
Perished with all his crew.
Quoted by Kingsley in ' Westward Ho ! ' of the
loss of Sir Hugh Willoughby on the Lapland coast.
G. M. Y.
5. I shall be very glad if any reader can tell me
the author of the poem, of which the following is
the first verse : —
What part of dread Eternity
Are those strange moments which I gain,
Mazed with the doubt of fear and pain,
Whereas thy delicate face I see
A little while before farewell ?
EMILY DAYMOND.
6. By whom, and where, was the apophthegm
uttered : —
When Milton lost his eyes, poetry lost hers.
PURBLIND.
JUplus*
YEOMEN OF THE MOUTH.
(12 S. iii. 508 ; iv. 89 ; v. 239.)
IN 'Ordinances of the Household of King
Henry VI. in the 33d Year of his Reign,
A.D .1455. From the Cotton Library, Cleo-
patra, F. v.P. 170,"
s.v. " Th' office of the Kechyn," appears
William Pratte, Yoman ; John Couper,
Groome ; and Robert Golding, Page, all
three " for the King's mouth."
s.v. " Th' office of the Lardery," John
M»rtyn, " Yoman for the King's mouthe."
s.v. " Th' office of the Catery," William
Stoughton, " Yoman for the King's mouthe."
s.v. ''Th' office of the Sauliery," John
Browne, Yoman, and John Merston, Grome,
both " for the King's mouth."
s.v. * ' Th' office of the Ewery," John
Penne, " Yoman for the King's mouth."
s.v. ' ' Th' office of the Pulterie,' ' Thomas
Laurence, Yoman, and Thomas Gardyner,
Grome, both " for the King's mouthe."
See 'A Collection of Ordinances and
Regulations for the Government of the
Royal Household. . . .from King Edward III.
to King William and Queen Mary,' Printed
for the Society of Antiquaries by John
Nichols, 1790, pp. *20-*22.
In this collection is the ' Liber Niger
Domus Regis Edw. IV.' (in Bibl. Harl.,
No. 642, fol. 1-196), from which may be
gathered some of the duties of the Yeomen
of the Mouth. The pages refer to the
collection : —
s.v. " Office of Bakehouse,"
" One yoman in this office for the Kinge's
mouthe, recevyng the mayne floure of the
Sergeaunt, by tayle, and woode to bake with the
mayne chete, and payne demayne ; and alwey
ii loves of these to wey a chete lofe. He hath
also sakkes, lethyr, bagges, canvas, candylles,
bulters, berme, and all other necessaries of the
Sergeaunt by controlment." — Pp. 69, 70.
" Oftvyce of Waferes, hathe one yoman making
wafyrs, and saufely and clenely to kepe them
covered, and under locke and by assay, to be
delyvered for the Kinge's mouthe to the sewar." —
P. 72.
s.v." Office of Sellar,"
" One yeoman for the Kinge's mouthe, that
with the sergeaunte chooseth the wynes most
pleasaunt to the Kinge's drinkinge, and moste
wholsome, and he saufely to keepe it with all his
dylygence, that noe person, but for the mouth,
intermeddle therewith ; he serveth the Kinge, at
the cup-bourde and barre, in the absence of the
sergeaunt, both with the cuppebourde, clothe,
pottes, and cuppes, for wyne and ale." — P. 76.
128. V. DEC., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
3213
*.v. " Office of Pycher-house, and Cup
"house,"
" The Buttler for the mouthe dely very the
nyghtly, at the buttrey barre, for the Kinge fo
all nyght : with the ale in newe asshen cuppes
and twoe other for the watche." — P. 78.
s.v. " Office of Confectionarye,"
" One yeoman to be both for the mouthe anc
.for the halle in tyme of neede, and chambre ; to
be well learned in the makinge of confections
plates, gardequinces, and others, safely and
cleanely to keepe, and honestly to minister it forth'
at all tymes of the Kinge's worship ; and to mak_
trewe awnswere thereof by weyghtes inward anc
outward, and soe to brief e it ; and be redye to
shewe the remanentes, as the clerkes woll calle
to undyrstand this office. This yeoman taketh
his wages, and clothinge, and other dewties in
this courte, like the yeoman of pantry, but noe
fees ; and if he be busye in working spices, then
he hathe his breade, mete, and drinke, for hym
and his felloweship, into this office, by command-
ment of the counting-house." — P. 81.
s.v. «• The Office of Ewary and Napery,"
" One yeoman in this office for the Kingt
mouthe, to serve hym in the absence of tL~
aerjeaunt, and to serve the chambre, and saufely
to keepe the naperye and other stuff e of the
Ewyre, as well the plate as the clothes, to the
smallest sorte, with all that belongeth thereto ;
to beare the chaufyrs with water ; and. in tyme
of the yeare, to see it hotte, after the olde custome ;
and to be dyligent and obedyent to the preceptes
of the ussher of the chambre that occupieth for
that tyme. This yeoman or sergeaunt, in the
wynter season, shall sette one torche or torches at
the chaundery, to serve the Kinge and his
•chambre ; and to beare the stuffe saufelye in and
oute of this office ; takinge in suche season a
lighte of the groome porter of the chambre, for
the ewry-bourde. This yeoman eteth in the
halle at one meale ; takinge wages and clothinge,
and other guiftes generall, like to the yeoman of
the pantrey. It hathe bene accustomed, that he,
or the groome for the mouthe, moste parte keepe
and make awnswere for alle suche plate and
clothes, and other stuff e, as the Kinge and his
chambre is served with all." — P. 84.
In Edward Chamberlayne's ' Present State
of England,' 1684, in the account " Of the
•Civil Government of the Kings Court," is
the following (p. 155) : —
" In the Cellar, a Sergeant, John Flock
Esquire, Sergeant of the Cellar, who is also
Sergeant of the Buttery, and Pitcher-house, and
a Gentleman, Richard Dalton. And is also
eldest Yeoman of the mouth. His Office is to
ill and taste his Majesties Wine at the sideboard,
and is the only Officer of that kind attending on
the Kings Person."
ROBEBT PIEBPOINT.
NERO ' AND ' Piso's
v. 254, 299).— MB.
' THE TBAGEDY OF
CONSPIBACY ' (12 S.
NICOLL'S remarks are based on a misunder-
standing. ' The Tragedy of Nero ' men-
tioned by Langhaine is not Lee's but the
anonymous play that was first published in
1624 and is, or ought to be, well known.
It was issued again in 1633. There is a
manuscript of it in the Egerton Collection in
the British Museum ; Charles Lamb took a
speech of Petronius in Act III. for his
' Specimens.'
EDWARD BENSLY.
SHIELD OF FLANDERS (12 S. v. 238). —
MB. HALL asks when, and by whom, what
he styles the "ancient shield of Flanders "
(Gyronny or and az., an inescutcheon gu.)
was changed for the " modern shield "
(Or, a lion rampant sa.).
Boutell, in his 'Heraldry: Historical and
Popular,' 1864, gives p. 159, the arms of
Flanders (Or, a lion rampant sa.), quartered
with the very similar coat of Holland (Or,
a lion rampant gu.), an early example, as
he says, of " compound " quartering (that
is, without the usual pourfilar, or dividing
lines) — which shield Philippa of Hainault,
Queen of our Edward III., quartered with
that of her royal husband — the whole being
borne in a " small shield exquisitely
carved in alabaster " existing upon the
south side of the monument to Queen
Philippa herself in Westminster Abbey.
As neither Mr. Boutell nor the late Dr.
Woodward in his valuable work, ' Heraldry :
British and Foreign ' (1896), who also deals
ith this subject, mentions any other arms
ttributable to Flanders but the above
'ampant lion, and as this bearing cannot be
onsidered a very modern one, may I ask
MR. HALL if he will kindly give his authority
or the statement that this gyronny coat
MATJLE (12 S. v. 236). — In years pre-
ceding 1820 the Rev. John Maule, A.M.,
was rector of Horse Heath, Cambridgeshire,
and chaplain of Greenwich Hospital.
W. B. H.
was ever the " ancient shield of Flanders " ?
J. S. UDAL, F.S.A.
Woodward and Burnet, 'Brit, and For.
ler.,' make many allusions to the arms of
landers, D'or au lion de sable. This coat
vas used at such an early date that it would
seem to preclude any more ancient coat,
for instance (p. 462) : " About 1300 Louis
Count of Nevers, son of Robert de Bethune,
Count of Flanders, by Yolante, daughter of
Eudes of Burgundy bore on his secretum
....Burgundy-ancient and Flanders, Or a
lion rampant Sable." It is very strange if
there be an ancient coat of Flanders it is
not mentioned. The learned authors appar-
ently knew no other. On the other hand,
Burke, ' Gen. Arm.' gives the gyronny coat.
J. HARVEY BLOOM.
324
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 S. V. DEO., 1919.
COURT OF ST. JAMES (12 S. v. 265).— The
above term dates from about 1697, when
Whitehall was burned. The following ex-
tract is from Timbs's ' Curiosities of
London ' : —
"On December 18, 1688, William, Prince of
Orange, came to St. James's, where, three days
afterwards, the peers assembled, and the house-
hold and other officers of the abdicated sovereign
laid down their badges. Evelyn says : ' All the
world goes to see the Prince at St. James's, where
there is a greate court. There I saw him : he is
very stately, serious and reserved ' (' Diary,' vol. i.
p. 680). King William occasionally held councils
here : but it was not until after the burning of
Whitehall, in 1697, that this Palace became used
for state ceremonies, whence dates the Court of
St. James's"
ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
The phrase is said to date from the burning
of Whitehall in the reign of William III.,
when St. James's became the royal residence.
St. James's was once a part of the parish of
St. Martin's-in-the-Fields, London. " In the
reign of Queen Anne it had acquired the
distinction of the Court quarter " (' Familiar
Allusions,' by Wheeler, Chatto & Windus,
1882.) A. M.
RICHENDA : ORIGIN OF THE NAME (12 S.
v. 237). — Richenda is apparently a feminine
form of Richard. The nearest approach
I have found to it in Miss Yonge's ' History
of Christian Names ' is Richenza ; other
variants there given are Richarda, Richila,
Richilde and Riciburga. The earlier forms
of Richard are the Teutonic Richer,
Rechiarius, and Riquier ; while the prefix
portion of the name acts as a suffix in such
forms as Erik, Hendrik, Theodoric, Osric,
Ulrica, &c. N. W. HILL.
RICHARD WARNFORD (12 S. v. 266). — This
Winchester Scholar of 1560, one of seventeen
boys who took the Scholar's oath here in the
cloisters on Aug. 23, 1562, was a son of
John Warnford of Sevenhampton or Senning-
ton, a ty thing in the parish of Highworth,
Wilts, by his marriage with Susan, daughter
of John Yate of Lyford, Berks. Their
eldest son, John Warnford, was Sheriff of
Wilts in 1590-1. See the Warnford pedigree
in ' Visitations of Hampshire ' (Harleian
Soc., voh.lxiv., p. 191) ; and ' Warneford, late
of Warneford Place ' (Sevenhampton) in
Burke's 'Landed Gentry' (1914), p. 1966.
See also ' Yate of Buckland,' and « Warne-
ford, of Buckland,' in ' Visitations of Berk-
shire ' (« Hp.rleian Soc.,' vol. Ivi., pp. 60, 302).
The will, dated Feb. 1, 25 Eliz., of
Richard's mother, Susan Warnford, widow,
was proved in London on April 22, 1583, bj
Edmund Barker, notary public, proctor fo*
John Warnford, the executor (P.C.C.
21 Rowe). She thereby desired to be burie<
in Highworth Church, " where the Warne
fords lie." Their chantry there is mentione<
in ' The National Gazetteer * (Virtue & Co,
1868), ii. 264.
According to some notes which I have c
the will, the testatrix mentioned, f.mongs
other persons, her " sisters " Pates an
Marden, and her daughters Hinton, Baynarc
and Loveden ; also her four sons, John (th
executor), Richard, Thomas, and Olivei
John had a family of at least eight childre:
(Thomas, Anthony, John, William, Susar
Mary, Elizabeth, and Anne) ; and Richar<
had a daughter Susan, godchild to her grand
mother, the testatrix. The will contain
indications that the family had prospered b;
breeding sheep.
Richard's younger brother Oliver becam
a Winchester Scholar in 1569. Lancelo
Warnford of Highworth, the Scholar of 1601
was presumably of the same family. In th
'D.N.B.' (lix. 378) there is a biography c
William Warford, alias Warneford aix
Walford, the Jesuit, who was born (so it i
said) at Bristol in 1560, and who publishe
his books under the name of " Georg
Doulye." He was not, so far as I know, c
the same family as Richard Warnford.
Richard was admitted Fellow of Nei
College, Oxford, after the usual two year*
probation as Scholar, on Sept. 3, 1565, bu
vacated without taking a degree. H
became a member of the Inner Temple i;
1567, his brother John having joined tha
Inn in 1561. Richard is mentioned in th
' Victoria History of Hants,' ii. 86, as
recusan , who in 1590 was " in arrears for hi
non -churchgoing fines to the extent c
1,54<M." H. C.
Winchester College.
I should have added to my query at th
above reference that the recusant we
committed to the Wood Street Counter i
London June 12 or 22, 1586, and was sti
there on Nov. 30. At the end of 1595, h
was in the Fleet for having heard Mass an
neglected to pay his fine. His wife Mar
was sent to the Wood Street Counter June 1!
1586, but discharged thence June 15. Mar
and Elizabeth Warnford were committed t
the Fleet Prison in 1591 and were still thei
at the end of 1595. (See Cath. Rec. Soc
vol. ii. passim.}
Oliver Warneford, Winchester Scholar, (
1569, from Shenington (Kirby, ' Winchest<
Scholars,' p. 142), is probably the perso
12 S. V. DEC., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
325
'referred to by the spy Nicholas Berden, who
makesFmention, May 15, 1586,! of
'* certen speches uttered by one Oliver Warneford,
gentillman of Hampshire, whoe broke pryson out
of Wynchester, viz. that they would relese the
yerle [of Arundel] & others then in the Tower, or
ells they woulde shed moch warm blod for yt."
See Cath. Rec. Soc. Publ., xxi. 88. This
volume contains many interesting details
about other Wykehamists, e.g., Dr. Edward
Atslow and Anthony Twichenor or Tuchenor,
as to the latter of whom see 11 S. xii. 340,
388, 430, 505.
JOHN B. WAINE WRIGHT.
" WHEN YOU DIE OF OLD AGE, I SHALL
QUAKE FOB FEAR " (12 S. v. 235, 278). — The
saying was already familiar in Swift's day : —
Lord Smart. .Miss, if it is Manners, may I ask,
which is oldest, you or Lady Scuttle?
Miss. Whv, rny Lord, when I die for Age, she
may quake for Fear.
' Polite Conversation,' Dialogue I.
EDWARD BENSLY.
A common Warwickshire saying round
Stratford - on - Avon.
J. HARVEY BLOOM.
CHESS : THE KNIGHT'S TOUR : ANOTHER
METHOD (12 S. v. 92, 136). — This method
although based upon the cross, diamond,
square principle differs from Dr. Roget's
in the rule prescribed to effect the same
end. I am doubtful at present of its
[validity in all specific cases. I have before
me an instance of its successful application
iwhere the starting point is White's Q R
jSquare and terminal White's K B square.
The course is as follows. The Knight goes
first twice round the board covering 24 of
the border squares as distinguished from
the 16 central ones. He then covers 8 of
these 16, the last being White's Q 3. He
then passes by way of White's K B 2 to
White's K R square, makes a third round
on the border squares, entering the central
one 5 again at White's K 3 ; completes the
occupation of these, passing to White's
K R 2 by way of K B 3 ; finally goes round
the border squares for the fourth time and
jrests on White's K B square.
Following this idea, I achieved the fellow-
ling results. My starting point is Black's
IQ Kn 4 and terminal Black's K Kn 4.
(The result coincides exactly with the key-
board's configurations of the squares and
liiamonds and crosses, although in the
pourse of the tour these are apparently
discarded by breaking away from one
(system to another before completing the
former, as the prescribed rule necessitates.
Can any experts in this Knight's tour
puzzle tell us if the above method avails in
every case ? I have hitherto met with
none of the startling arithmetical com-
binations one reads about in the " books."
How are such arrived at ?
43
ft 6
3
18
33
54
5
20
2
57
17
42
44
27
55
4
19
52
34
53
32
45
21
6
16 1
46
49
26
29
64
35
41
58
31
28
51
48
7
22
12
15
40
50
13
47
30
25
36
63
59
10
61
38
23
8
14
11
60
39
24
9
62
37
JOHN W. BROWN.
[While we welcome references to geometrical or
mathematical proofs in books or periodicals, their
exhibition in detail is, we think, somewhat outside
our scope.]
DERIVATION OF NAMES (12 S. v. 266). —
From a reference to various books on
Nomenclature I have pleasure in suggesting
the following derivations : —
Amphlett.— Cf. "Amfleet," suffix fleet, meaning a
.shallow creek.
Devey. — 1. French De Veil or De Vay. the ford.
2. A variHiit of Davey, Anglo-Hebrew for
David.
Eykyn.- Variant of Aikin, a Saxon personal name,
Acen, apparently Oaken, O.E. Acen. Also the
son or Adam, diminutive Adkin
Gittins or Gettins. — From the Celtic Gaitfcen,
Gaitkin, straight.
Nock. — At the oak. from residence beside the o«»k
tree. Similar lo Noakes, Noke, Noack, Nocke.
ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
Crowther, or Crowder, is quite distinct
from Crowthers (Carruthers). It denotes a
fiddler, from M.E. crowthe or crowde, a viol ;
Wei. crwth, a violin.
Gittins, Gettings, or Gethin is Welsh and
may be connected with Ir. gaithean, a
straight branch.
For Hoord see ante, p. 241, s.v. ' Hoorde
or Kurd.'
Devey is probably the Welsh Dev/i,
or Davey.
Nock may be Knock, cognate with
Ir. cnoc, a hill or knoll ; but it is sometimes
326
NOTES AND QUERIES. 12 s. v. DEC., 1919.
a variant of Noak, a contraction of atten oak
(at the oak).
Eykyn, the Scotch Aikin, is A.-S. acen,
oaken.
Amphlett has, I think, the double diminu-
tive -lett, as in Hewlett (Hew, or Hugh-el-lot) ;
and may be a Welsh contracted form of
Humphry, viz., Humphlett, with loss of the
aspirate. N. W. HILL.
35 Woburn Place. W.C.I.
Prof. Ernest Weekley , in * The Romance of
Names,' at p. 161, derives Crowther from
the archaic crowd or crowth, a fiddle, and
points out that " the fiddler in ' Hudibras '
is called Crowdero."
At. p. 212 he says : " Devey and Dombey
seem to be the diminutive forms of deaf and
dumb, which are still used in dialect in
reference to persons thus afflicted."
JOHN B. WAINEWBIGHT.
If your correspondent has not already
done so, he might refer with advantage to
that informative and reliable repertory,
Canon Bardsley's ' Dictionary of Surnames,'
issued by the Oxford Press.
W. JAGGARD, Capt.
Repatriation Records Registry, Winchester.
[A. M. also thanked for 'reply]
ANTHONY TODD, SECRETARY OF THE
G.P.O. (12 S. iv. 11, 114; v. 104, 164).— The
following occurs in a London newspaper
(name at present unknown) : —
" On Wednesday January 9th, 1782, as Anthony
Todd, Esq., Secretary to the Post Office, was going
home in his carriage to his house at Walthamstow,
Essex, and another gentleman with him, he was
stopped by two highwaymen, one of whom pre-
sented a pistol to the Coachman's breast, whilst the
other with a handkerchief over his face, robbed Mr
Todd, and the other gentleman of their gold
watches."
J. W. FAWCETT.
CHARLES I. : HIS JOURNEY FROM OXFORD
TO SOUTHWELL (12 S. v. 182). — An account
of the route taken is given in * East Anglia
and the Great Civil War,' by A. Kingston,
pp. 224-32. Charles left Oxford at three
o'clock in the morning, April 27, 1646, and
travelled towards London. He then turned
to Harrow-on-the-Hill and Barnet. Passing
through St. Albans he lodged the night at
Wheathampstead, probably at Lamer Park,
the seat of Sir John Garrard. From thence
he went through Stevenage, Graveley,
Baldock, Royston to Newmarket and stayed
at an inn probably at Bottisham. The next
stage of the journey was by way of Brandon
to Downham in Norfolk, where he lodged
at The Swan. On May 2 the King went t(
Jrimplesham, a mile away, and disguisec
limself as a clergyman, and Dr. Hudsoi
who had been to Southwell) rejoined him
The party then resumed their journey t<
Southrie, Ely, Erith, Stukely (Hunts) t<
the village of Coppingford near Stilton
where they spent Saturday night and par
of Sunday, May 3. The next place Charle
stayed at, Sunday night, was Stamford
either at the house of Mr. Cave or Mi
Wolph. On Monday by travelling all da;
until eleven o'clock at night they reache<
Southwell and came to the Scots arnr
before Newark on Tuesday morning, May 5
after a strange pilgrimage of nine aays eve
at the risk of being discovered.
G. H. W.
"RAIN CATS AND DOGS " (12 S. iv. 328
v. 108, 166). — The following extract fron
The Daily Express may prove interesting t
some readers of ' N. & Q.' : —
RAINING CATARACTS.
To the Editor of The Daily Express.
Sir, — The phrase "raining cats and dogs" is
corruption of the word "catadupe," meaning
catanict.
The Greek Katadoupoi— the cataracts of tli
Nile, from Katadoupeo — to fall with a heav
sound.
It is raining cats and dogs — it is raining cataract
Cannock. BERTRAM COOPER.
I have not seen the explanation before, an
it is new to me.
CHRISTIAN E. P. GROTH, M.A.(Camb).
DAVID, " EPISCOPUS RECREENSIS " (12 !
v. 238). — This prelate is mentioned in Bishc
Stubbs' ' Registrum Sacrum Anglicanuir
(2nd edn., Oxford, 1897, p. 195) as
" suffragan of York," and as pontificatir
as such in 1316 and 1317. But the name <
his see is not explained. He does not see:
to be mentioned by either Gams or Eubel.
None of the Irish bishops, employed i
" suffragans " in England, bears a nan
anything like " Recreensis " (Stubt
I pp. 204-9). W. A. B. C.
" ARGYLES " OR GRAVY-POTS (12 S. v. 15
219, 248).— We have had a plated " Argyle
in our family for a great number of years,
was in use constantly during my gran
father's lifetime, and was believed to ha1
been inherited by him from his father,
have not papers at hand to show the dates
our grandfather's birth and death, but 1
i was not very young when married in 179
' so that the " Argyle " my brother (Re
S. C. Sharland, Sedbergh) now possesses
12 S. V. DEC., 1919.]
KOTES AND QUERIES.
32T
probably of an. earlier date than those made
in the beginning of the nineteenth century.
It is exactly like the illustration in Mr.
Bradbury's ' History of Old Sheffield Plate,'
described thus : " That shown to the left
in the form of a teapot had a separate
chamber with detachable lid " ; the date of
this illustrated " Argyle " is 1795 ; but my
brother's piece is unmarked.
E. C. SHARLAND.
EDWARD THE CONFESSOR'S CROWN (12 S.
v. 238). — The description given is in total
variance with the Confessor's crown as
figured upon either of his two great seals,
and also with the crown in scenes where the
Confessor appears in the Bayeux Tapestry.
The above are illustrated in Charles Knight's
' Old England ' (1845) ; the Bayeux Tapestry
presenting the crown as a plain band sur-
mounted by fleurs-de-lis. Sir Henry Ellis
appears to have accepted the seals as correct.
W. B. H.
'Ton JONES' (12 S. v. 268, 303).— The
prophecy of Gibbon, that ' Tom Jones '
would outlive the imperial eagle of the House
of Austria, is in his ' Memoirs of My Life and
Writings,' in his ' Miscellaneous Works,'
1817, vol. i., p. 5. L. DUFF.
HAMILTON (12 S. v. 289). — In the Order
Books for General Gage's Brigade at
Montreal, under Sunday, Nov. 8, 1761, is
this announcement : Ci Hector Theophilus
Cramartie, Esq., is appointed judge advocate
to his Majesty's forces in N. America."
These Order Books have been printed
with the ' Journals of Hon. William Hervey.'
I cannot say whether Cramartie is a mis-
reading or not. but it is so printed.
S. H. A. H.
EMERSON'S 'ENGLISH TRAITS' (12 S..
v. 234, 275, 302). — 8. Chestnut Street is one-
of the principal business thoroughfares in
Philadelphia. At least one other street
(Walnut Street) in the city is named after a.
tree, and I believe there are still others.
J. R. IL
JOHN HOOLE, POET (8 S. ix. 307, 518),—
I am now able to add a little further informa-
tion to my communication at the latter-
reference, and also to show that Hoole was;
descended from the Hooles of Sheffield..
The brief pedigree given below is com-
piled from the Sheffield parish church L
registers, the ' D.N.B.,' Gent's Mag., and.
Foster's ' Alumni Oxonienses.' It is difficult
to say who was the father of Robert Hoole
who commences the pedigree, as there were-
two Roberts baptized in 1654, viz. : Robert,,
son of Robert Hoole, bapt. April 4, 1654 ;
and Robert, son of John Hoole, bapt. Mar. 1,..
1654-5. The father of Anna Barlow was:
married in Sheffield, as the following entry-
in the register proves : —
•* Edward Barlowe of Sheffield, cutler, and Eliza-
beth Wadsworth of the same, widdowe, was pub-
lished on the 10th. 17th, and 24th daiesot' Septemb-
and was married on the 25th dale of September.,
1654."
CHARLES DRTJRY.
2 Ranmoor Cliffe Road, Sheffield.
Robert Hoole, of Sheffield^ Anna, dau. of Edward Barlow, cutler, of Sheffield,
bap. Nov. 5 1657, m. June 28, 1677, at Sheffield.
J
Samuel Hoole, born Dec. 26, 1692,=f Farah , dau. of James Drury, clockmaker, of;
bap. at Sheffield Jan. 19, 1692-3. I Clerkenwell.
i '
John Hoole, poet, born in London=pSusannah Smith, "the handsome quaker " of Bishop's -
Dec. 1727, d. Aug. 2, 1SU3. Stortford, m. 1757.
Rev. Samuel Hoole, matric. Magdalen Coll., Oxon., =fMiss Warneford, m. at Dorking, Surrey, Dec.
July 14, 1780, aged 22, born 1758, Vioar of 1803 (Gent's. Mag.).
Abinger, Rector of Poplar, d. Feb. 26, 1839
John Hoole, only son, matric. Wadham Coll., Oxon., July 3, 1822, aged 17,=
b. 1805, B.A. 1826, M.A. 1830, Curate of Poplar 1827-33, d. 1868.
John V^anieford Hool«». eld. stn, matric. Corpus Christi Coll. Oxon., June 15,
1855, aged 18: b. 1837, B A. 1859.
328
NOTES AND QUERIES. ti2s.v.DKc., 1019.
MARAZION (12 S. v. 292). — During last
'October ' Under the Clock ' in The Daily
News contained several paragraphs on this
subject, only one of which I have rescued
from destruction, I think it was the last : —
"The Marazion mystery is clearing: nn very
nicely. The alternative name, Market Jew, it
seems, is the corruption of a Cornish form of Mara-
zion (markets), which sounded nearly like Market
Jew. Doubtless our mediaeval predecessors were
•misled, like us, by thinking that the ending was
zion, whereas it is ion. The proverb 'Sitting in
his own light likp the Mayor of Market Jew'
refers to the fact that the main window of the
Council chamber is directly behind the Mayor's
seat."
A. T. W.
Johnston's ' Place-names of England and
Wales ' gives the following dates and
variants of this name : 1250, Marhasgon ;
1309, Marhasyon ; 1313, Marhasion ; c. 1470,
Markysowe, Marchasyowe ; c. 1540, Leland,
Markesju ; 1595, Marghas-iewe (often to-day
" Market Jew," a curious example of popular
etymology). The name is Cornish, marhas
diow (Fr. de yew], "market on Thursday."
But diow must have had an older form dion.
ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
The origin of this place-name is discussed
by Mr. J. Ho.rris Stone on pp. 218-222 of his
* England's Riviera.'
In vol. Ixxxv. of " The Homeland Hand-
books," being ' Penzance and the Land's
End District,' at p. 71 the "editors,"
Messrs. J. B. Cornish and J. A. D. Bridger,
; state : —
"The name is derived from the Cornish words
Marhas, a market, and vean, little There are
•records of no fewer than sixty-six different spel-
lings of the two names."
JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.
[MB. W. AVER, MR. N. W. HILL, and MR. C. H.
PARRY also thanked for replies.]
FIELD -NAMES (12 S. v. 208). — It is curious
how in Wessex names are duplicated. Thus
•dhurn, Hants ; Churn, Berks ; Sparsholt,
Berks ; ditto Hants, Easton, Avington, &c.
AfJer a careful inquiry in Berks I found
'field-names to be of Saxon origin, and half
:from owners.
In the list given I believe the following to
be surnames of owners : Vallard, Spence,
Hyeth (Wyeth ?), Kent (Anmary), Evence
(Evans), but really to discover the same
fields should be searched for in older deeds.
I wai once puzzled with "Harry George"
as a field -name, but traced it back to
" Heriot's Edge." Another field, Pollards
{Pollentines later), became part of Valen-
. tine's Farm, sixteenth century.
" Lanmer " is, of course, Lammashands ;
" Lady " was probably convent-owned ;
" Fulin " probably refers to the cloth trade :
" Hamble " is a river-name in Hants, and
the names of streams are often only pre-
served in field-names. " Harmage " and
" Harrage " are identical. Has it any con-
nexion with " Hareway " ? Lost manors also
may be discovered by field-names. A few
other likely Ans;lo- Saxon derivation-; are
added : —
Bunca*. — Bunkers.
Chin acre.— Chunk, a slice.
Clan.— Clane, dean.
Couthy.— Coathev, rotten sheep.
Caterwise. — Diagonal.
Clump. — Clumpet, a clod of earth.
Dawser.— Dewy, velt, low-lying.
Fulin.— Fuling in wool making.
Gallega.— Galley = to frighten awey.
Hackthorn.— Haw thorn, from hag or haw
Hatback — Hat, a ring or clump of trees.
Kilhorse is kiln house.
Lampacie. — Perhaps left to prove altar light.
Lanmer.— Lam mas.
1'eart. — Flourishing.
Ponfield.-Pondfield.
Bright.— Upriaht.
Prockled.— Wrinkled.
(Mrs.) E. E. COPE.
GRIM OR GRIME (12 S. v. 95, 137, 160,
245). — In the review of the ' Books of the
Lewes : the Story of a Hebridean Isle ' in the
Literary Supplement of The Times for
Sept. 25, 1919, the reviewer speaks of the
Norse settlements in Lewis [of] which many
a place-name is witness. Grimersta is
Grim's abode; Suinabost, Sweyn's farm, and
Bernera, to the south, is Bjonn's island.
J. W. FAWCETT.
THE EARL OF BEACONSFIELD'S BIRTH-
PLACE (12 S. v. £04). — Another claimant to
the honour is Upper Street, Mingcon. The
late Mr. J. Cordy Jeaffreson, in his ' Recol-
lections,' vol. i., states that his uncle Dr.
John Jeaffreson, who practised in Upper
Street when the village of Islington was a
favourite health resort of prosperous Lon-
doners, was on intimate terms with Isaac
D'Israeli, and that the latter's son Benjamin
was a favourite playmate of their family.
This Dr. Jeaffreson used to tell in his vigorous
old age that Mr. and Mrs. D'Israeli, though
occupying the house in King's Street, Holborn
(now Theobald's Road), were staying, in
December, 1805, in a house adjoining his
own in Upper Street for reasons of health,
when the lady was unexpectedly seized with
the pains of pregnancy. Neither nurse nor
clothing was ready for the new arrival, but
Dr. Jeaffreson was sent for and attended her
12 S. V. DEC., 1919. 1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
329
at Benjamin's birth, while Mrs. Jeaffreson
found a nurse, and supplied linen and clothes
from her own stores. Mr. J. C. Jeaffreson
thinks it difficult to believe that the surgeon
could have been mistaken on a matter of
this kind in relation TO the wife of his
familiar friend, though he admits the
possibility that having attended the lady
on several such occasions he, after the lapse
of years, might have confused the birth of
her first child with that of her second or
third. As Lord Beaconsfield is said not to
have been clear about either the place or
the year of his birth this narrative is at
least worthy of consideration. Mr. J. C.
Jeaffreson. admits that he is " not wholly
without doubt " on the subject.
R. S. PENGELLY.
REDE-BIRDS (12 S. v. 265).— By "rede-
bird" is perhaps meant the "reed-bird,"
i.e., a bird which frequents reeds. ' N.E.D.'
gives many quotations under the latter
heading, as —
1648. Hexham. Een riot-meese, a reed e bird like a
titmouse. Also (a) reed- warbler ; (b) sedge warbler.
1848. • Zoologist,' vi., 2186. The sedge warbler
is the •' reed-bird."
1871-4. Newton, ' Yarrell's British Birds,' 370.
Its partiality for reeds makes the name[s] of
reed-bird or reed-wren, by which it is commonly
known, sufficiently applicable.
'N.E.D.' also gives four quotations attri-
buting the name to a North- American
singing bird, Dolichonyx oryzivorus : the
bobolink or rice-bunting.
ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
This appears to be the American trivial
name for the well-known ortolan bunting
(emberiza hortulans), one of the many species
of the bunting family. It is the " ortolan "
of gourmets.
The expression " reed bird " is not to be
found in the ordinary British books on
ornithology and, so far, I have only come
across it in a novel, ' The Rifle Rangers,' by
the late Capt. Mayne Reid, where, in his
description of the sumptuous lunch given by
the Spaniard, Don Cosme, at his Hacienda,
it is referred to as the ortolan, or reed bird.
Neither the reed bunting (emberiza schceni-
| clus) nor the reed warbler (acrocephalus
j streperus) is the " ortolan " proper.
M. BALFE.
On referring to the original query at 8 S.
t v. 448 I rather suspect this to be a ghost -
| word. It looks as if the scribe, by writing
the word " bookes " more than once, had
finally written " cushions for rede birds 'x
instead of " for rede bookes," i.e., reading
books. Such cushions might be placed
about the pulpit and choir.
As to the suggestion at 8 S. vi. 72 that
lecterns were intended, I have noticed that
reading desks supported on the outstretched
wings of brass eagles are very common in
ritualistic and other English churches.
N. W. HILL.
[Dn. LKFFMANN and ST. SWITHIN also thanked ^
for replies.]
PSEUDONYMS (12 S. v. 293).— O. E., the^
author of ' Iron Times with the Guards,' is
the name adopted by Mr. Geoffrey Fildes, .
barrister, third son of Sir Luke Fildes..
O. E. is, of course, Old Etonian.
J. M. BULLOCH.
37 Bedford Square, W.C.I.
' Is Russia Wrong ? ' with preface by
J. A.. Froude, was written by O. K. (Mme..
Novikov, formerly Olga Kiryeeva). M.
[MR. H. G. HARRISON and W. S. B. H. also-
thanked tor replies.]
GIANTS' NAMES (12 S. v. 267).— To the
list given may be added perhaps Colbrand
and also Guy of Warwick. See the latter's
reputed porringer and other enormous relics, .
preserved at Warwick Castle, always sources
of wonder to the credulous.
W. JAGGARD, Capt.
Repatriation Records Registry, Winchester.
CAPT. ROBERT BOYLE (12 S. v. 294).— The
story referred to is generally considered to
have been written by Benjamin Victor, Irish
poet and manager of the Theatre Royal,,
Dublin (d. 1778). Bohn's edition of
' Lowndes,' however, ascribes the authorship
of the book to Wm. Rufus Chetwood.
(d. 1766). H. G. HARRISON.
Aysgarth, Sevenoaks.
[MR. ARCHIBALD SPARKE also thanked for reply 1
'ADESTE FIDELES ' (12 S. v. 292).— MR.
MURRAY'S quotation from Rabelais alludes
not to this hymn but to a portion of the
Mass of the Presanctified on Good Friday
(Feria VI. in Parasceve) in the ' Missale
Romanum,' therein described as " adoratio
Crucis," but which amongst our English
forefathers was known as the " creeping to
the Cross." At this portion of the service
the priest takes of£ his chasuble and goes to
the Epistle corner of the altar, where the
deacon having taken down the Cross covered,
with a veil from the altar, hands it to him.
He then turns towards the people and
uncovers the top of the Cross, singing " Ecce
lignum Crucis," and the deacon and sub-
deacon join him in singing " in quo
330
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[12 S. V. DEC., 1919.
-mundi pependit," and the choir respond
** Venite, adoremus." At this response all
-except the celebrant prostrate themselves.
The celebrant then advances a little, still at
the Epistle corner, and unveils the right arm
-of the Cross, singing in a higher key " Ecce
lignum Crucis," the sacred ministers and
the choir joining in as before. Then going
to the middle of the altar, he uncovers the
whole cross and sings a third time, still
higher, " Ecce lignum Crucis," the ministers
a,nd choir again joining in, and all prostrating
themselves as above. The rest of the rite
--does not concern us here.
JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.
[PROF. BKNSLY also thanked for reply.]
LORD JOHN VAUGHAN : DEHANY FAMILY
'•{12 S. v. 268). — Archer in his monumental
inscriptions of the British West Indies has
seven inscriptions of the Dehanys, the latest
date is 1767, p. 335. This footnote is
interesting. According to the Kingston
B. Reg. David Dehany was buried in a
garden in that town. "It is said that the
Dehanys claim descent from the Dehennins,
-Counts de Bossu " (Roby). Such a claim
was to have been expected.
Matthew Gregory, member in Assembly
for St. James's, Jamaica, 1718, died in
1778, had among other children a daughter
Mary who married Geo. Dehany. The
Journals of House of Assembly were com-
posed by Roby. A. M.
GENERAL JOHN NICHOLSON (12 S. v. 180).
— According to the ' Life of Nicholson,' by
Capt. L. J. Trotter, he was descended from
a Rev. William Nicholson, who went to
'Ireland in 1589, and that prior to that date
the family lived in Cumberland. For
"William's descendants, &c., see chap. i.
G. H. W.
CHARLES MORRIS OF PORTMAN SQUARE
'{12 S. v. 264).— Charles Morris (1768-1844)
was a younger son of James Morris, J.P.,
D.L., co. Surrey, High Sheriff 1764, by his
second wife Mary Magdalen, daughter of
Stephen, Matthew. Charles, who spent
large sums in. improving Malvern, married
Sarah, daughter of Anthony Francis Haldi-
mand, who (in 1767) founded the firm of
merchants and foreign bankers in Old Broad
Street, subsequently known as Morris,
Prevost & Co. Charles Morris resided at
the Manor House, Wandsworth, co. Surrey,
and in Portman Square. His eldest son
Charles (d. 1806) was " like his father, a
mosb munificent benefactor to the town of
IVlalvern." A younger son, James Morris of
Belgrave Square, was a director of the Bar
of England from 1827-1879.
The following authorities may be referre
to : Burke's * Landed Gentry,' 1914 (Mori
of York) ; Crisp's 'Visitations, Notes
vol. viii. pp. 92-4 ; The Times, Dec. 8, 191
(obituary notice of Sir Augustus Prevost
M.
His country house was the Manor Hous
East Hill, Wandsworth, where a daught
was born Aug. 24, 1800. A description
}he Manor House by the late S. W. Kersha^
F.S.A., appeared in ' Coll. of Surr. Archsec
Soc.,' vol. x., 1890 ; also in ' Some Ancie:
Houses of Wandsworth,' 1912.
LIBRARIAN.
Public Library, Wandsworth, S.W.18.
"DRINK BY WORD or MOUTH" (12
v. 98, 136). — There is a more exalt<
authority for the phrase than the hayfield
' The Squire of Alsatia.'
In the dinner scene in Swift's * Poli
Conversation,' when the butler brings up t
tankard of October, Lord Smart say
" Come, Sir John, take it by Word of Mout
and then give it to the Colonel."
To those who do not know Swift's c
lightful treatise one may safely say that th
ought to, and that angels will never lo
them. EDWARD BENSLY.
PORTRAITS ON GRAVESTONES (12 S.
210, 277, 377, 459; iii. 14; v. 250, 306).
Perhaps it was by an oversight that Itf
JOHN DUXBURY omitted to mention at t
third reference the handsome monume]
with well - executed portrait, erected
Blackburn cemetery to the memory
George Ellis (1817-71), musician. Mr. E!
gained celebrity in the North of England
band instructor and conductor, being at c
period tutor to the majority of the bands,
this part of the country. He compos
several hymn tunes.
The inscription states that the monunw
was " erected by his pupils and friends ai
tribute of respect and esteem for his musi
abilities." R. GRIME
62 Duckworth Street, Blackburn.
TRANSLATIONS WANTED (12 S. v. 295)
In reply to COL. SHAKESPEAR'S inqu
the following translations can be reco
mended : —
' Book of Enoch,' as rendered by Car
R. H. Charles, who is also believed to hf
done ' Secrets of Enoch,' in addition t<
rendering by the Slavonic scholar a
Oxonian, W. R. Morfill, M.A.
12 S. V. DEC., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
331
' Writings of Philo,' by Prof. C. D. Yonge,
[.A. ; ' Eusebius,' by Rev. C. F. Cause,
LA., both in Bonn's Ecclesiastical and
heological Library.
For ' Origen ' and ' Irenseus ' he can
onsult T. & T. Clark's Ante-Nicene Library.
ANEURIN WILLIAMS.
Menai View, North Road, Carnarvon.
[MR. W. A. HUTCHISON also thanked for reply.]
CHURCH BRIEFS (12 S. v. 294).— A fully
lassified and indexed list of these will be
ound in a book by Mr. W. A. Bewes entitled
Church Briefs, or Royal Warrants for
Collections for Charitable Objects,' 8vo,
L & C. Black, 1896. The late Dr.
?. N. Brushfield published two pamphlets
>n ' Devonshire Briefs ' (sixteenth-eigh-
eenth century), 8vo, 1895-6. The late
»Ir. Cornelius Walford also published a small
volume on ' King's Briefs, their Purposes
tnd History,' privately printed, 8vo, 1883.
H. G. HARRISON.
Aysgarth, Sevenoaks.
I have an essay by the author of ' Paro-
ihial Memorials ' that was published under
,he title of ' Bygone Briefs ' by Wightman &
3o., Westminster, in 1896. It contains
nteresting matter on the subject and a
iseful schedule of more than one thousand
>riefs laid in the parish of St. Margaret,
estminster. PRESCOTT Row.
Miss M. E. CORNFORD also thanked for reply.]
BISHOP OF SORRON (12 S. iii. 109, 178).—
lere was a see called Sorra in Sardinia,
tiose Bishop Arnold granted benediction
Simon Langham, the famous Abbot of
Vestminster, in July, 1349.
J. W. FAWCETT.
ENSIGN OLIVER CROMWELL : CROMWELL
'RICE (12 S. v. 292). — Ensign Oliver Crom-
ell was the grandson of Henry Cromwell,
orcl Lieutenant of Ireland, the Protector's
urth son. Henry's second son, Major
enry Cromwell, married Hannah Hewling,
whom he had a family of eight sons and
daughters. After the death of the
dest son Oliver, born in 1687, at the age oi
3," the youngest son, born in 1704, received
le name of Oliver. In Waylen's 'House
Cromwell,' p. 38, it is recorded : —
" He, like his father, served in the British army
id held an ensigncy in an Irish regiment ; but, dis-
king the situation, resigned his commission, anc1
iissed the rest of his life in privacy, dying un
arried in 1748. This is the fifth Oliver Cromwel
/ing without issue."
N. W. HILL.
! 35 Woburn Place, W.C.I.
Cromwell Price was the third son of~
ueneral Nicholas Price and grandson of
Nicholas Price of Hollymount, co. Down, by
is wife Catherine, widow of Vere Essex
romwell, Earl of Ardglass.
Cromwell Price was later M.P. for Down-
Datrick. Dying without male issue, he was
succeded in the family estates by his brother
Nicholas.
The present representative of the family
s Major Blackwood-Price of Saintfield,.
co. Down. KATHLEEN WARD.
Cairnbinn, Whitehouse, co. Antrim.
[M.R. A. R. BAYLEY and PROF. BENSLY also-
thanked for replies.]
" TOPONYMICS " IN GREAT BRITAIN (12 S.
v. 290). — There is very little variety in the
English endings of these words, and few of
those of towns are used. County names
are much more usual. But in French there
are several varieties, e.g. : —
Auscitain a man from Auch.
Arrageois „ Arras.
Chartrain ,, Chartres.
Blesois ,, Blois.
Palois „ Pau.
iSpirialien ,, Epinal.
Lexovien „ Lisieux.
Malouin ,, St. Malo.
Bizontiri ,, Besancon.
Foxieti ,, Foix.
Ti6cqrrois ,, Tr6guier.
Messin ,, Metz.
Auvergnat ,, Auvergne.
Berrichon „ Berry.
Beauceron ,, La Beauce.
Castrotheodoricien ,, Chateau Thierry.
Tourquennois ,, Tourcoing.
DE V. PAYEN-PAYNE.
WILLIAM PEER : THE ALLEGED ACTOR
(12 S. v. 263).— There can, I think, be no real :
doubt as to the existence of William Pere,
or Pierre, in the flesh. The following is from
a letter supposed to be addressed by
" Julian, late Secretary of the Muses to Will
Pierre of the Play-house" ('Letters from,
the Dead to the Living,' by Mr. Tho. Brown
and others, 2nd edn., 1702, pp. 64-5) :—
" For you, Sir, if I mistake not, are one of the
most ancient of his Majesty's servants, under the
denomination of a Player, and yet cannot advance
above the delivering a scurvy message, which the
strutting Leaders of your House would do much
mure awkwardly, and by consequence 'tis the par-
tiality jof them or the Town that have (sic) kept
you in this low post all this while."
* Will Pierre's Answer,' ibid., p. 68, is dated.
" Lincolns-Inn Fields, Novem. 5, 1701:
Behind the Scenes."
There is nothing to suggest that the other
persons, in so far as they are mentioned by
name, to whom these letters are addressed
332
NOTES AND QUERIES.
(.128. V. DEC., 1919.
•are not real. In Haslewood's MS. ' List of
Actors and Actresses ' there occurs the name
"Peire Th. R. 1691," which probably
indicates that it is printed in the dramatis
personce of some play of that date.
G. THORN-DRTJRY.
BLTJECOAT SCHOOLS (12 S. v. 126, 158,
218, 302).— A Bluecoat School for both boys
and girls was founded at Colchester in 1708
by members of the Church of England, and
is still carried on, though there is little
competition for the uniform.
Since the formation of the National
Society in 1812 their school and the Bluecoat
School have been under the same master,
but they are a distinct foundation. A
Greencoat School was founded here some-
what later by Dissenters — this is extinct.
Full-length portraits of a Bluecoat boy and
a girl in their quaint dress, painted by Mr.
Prank Daniell hang in the Town Hall.
G. RICKWORD, F.R.Hist.Soc.,
Borough Librarian.
Colchester.
CANTRELL FAMILY (12 S. v. 291).— The
Rev. Thos. Cantrell, M.A., born 1649, was
the son of John Cantrell of Repton, co. Derby,
and matriculated at Brasenose College,
Oxford, on May 28, 1666, aged 17 ; B.A.,
1669-70; M.A. Sidney Sussex Coll., Camb.,
1681 ; headmaster of Derby School, 1684-97 ;
vicar of Elvaston from 1695 ; buried,
Mar. 23, 1697-8. There is a monument to
him in St. Peter's Church, Derby.
William Cantrell, born in 1715, was the
son of the Rev. Henry Cantrell, vicar of
St. Alkmund's, Derby. Educated at Derby
School, 1725-30,' and at Repton School, 1730 ;
matriculated at St. John's Coll., Camb. ;
B.A., 1738. Rector of St. Michael's, Stam-
ford, Lines. ; and subsequently vicar of
Normanton, co. Rutland. There is a monu-
ment to him in St. Alkmund's Church,
Derby. Died, Jan. 17, 1787. He had a
brother Henry (born 1711), who died young.
There is also a monument to him in St. Alk-
mund's. H. G. HARRISON.
Aysgarth, Sevenoaks.
GEORGE SHEPHERD (12 S. v. 295). —
Bryan's ' Dictionary of Painters and En-
gravers ' gives the name of the above water-
colour painter as George Shepheard, but no
mention is made of his being related to
Thomas Hosmer Shepherd. He further
states that the latter artist was possibly a
brother of George Sydney Shepherd, a well-
known water colour painter, but the fact
has not been determined definitely. From
1811 to 1830 George Shepheard occasionally
exhibited landscapes from Surrey nac
Sussex ; while George Sydney Shepherc
exhibited chiefly metropolitan buildings
mostly between the years 1830-37, thougl
his name only disappears after 1860.
Shepheard had two sons, George Wallwyi
and Lewis, both of whom were artists
Perhaps MR. NORMAN is confusing Georgt
Shepheard and George Sydney Shepherd.
ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
Consult British Museum Book of Englisl
Drawings. George Shepherd worked cira
1800-30. Thos. Hosmer Shepherd worke<
circa 1817-40 ; probably son of George
George Sidney Shepherd was son of Georgi
Shepherd (died 1858).
E. E. LEGGATT.
DEVONIAN PRIESTS EXECUTED IN 1548-!
(12 S. v. 131, 183, 243).— There seems to b<
no evidence that George Stocker was t
priest or that he was executed. In the lis
at the end of the ' Concertatio Ecclesiae
George Stoker is mentioned as a gentlemai
living in exile. The list was probably drawl
up about 1588.
JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.
GAVELACRE : PLACENAME (12 S. v. 295).-
The word gavel has various meanings
according to its derivation : —
1. Tribute, toll, custom. Cf. Fr. gabelle
2. Hold, or tenure. So in the wore
gavel-kind. In Norfolk a gavel is a sheaf o
corn not yet bound, i.e., what can be hel<
in the reaper's grasp. Cf. Welsh gavael, i
hold or grasp.
3. A fork. Cf. Ger. gabel. Hence gavel =
gable, the forked roof.
4. In Northumberland a gavel is a strip o
land. This is a mis-spelling of cavel, i
strip of tillage land in the common field, i
word used as far south as Lincolnshire.
Gavel-dyke is an allotment of fence liabl
to be maintained by a farm not adjoining il
Allotments of gavel-dyke are mostly agains
commons, and seem originally to have bee:
intended to relieve the farms next . th
commons from a part of the, pressure am
trespass occasioned by sheep.
M. E. CORNFORD, Librarian.
William Salt Library, Stafford.
For the explanation of many composit
words beginning and ending with gavel se
Somner's ' Gavelkynd.' In this case gav*.
is simply the Saxon word signifying " rent "
and was in general use and confined to n
especial localities. Possibly the land referrei
12 S. V. DEC., 1919. ]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
33S
to was at one time devoted to religious
purposes, and so analogous to that in the
following quotation from Lewis' ' History
of Faversham,' p. 86 : —
"These altars had all of them lights burning on
them, which with the other expenses relating to
them were provided in the following manner, viz.,
to St. Margaret's Light was given one, or as some
say, two acres of land, called St. Margaret's Yavel
or Gafel, and to this day the Margaret Acre."
The grammar is his, not mine.
F. F. LAMBARDE.
[MR. A. R. BAYLEY also thanked for reply.]
" GAMP " AS ADJECTIVE (12 S. iv. 102). —
Dickens, it is true, gives his characters at
times redende Namen, such as Mrs. Leo
Hunter and Lord Frederick Verisopht,
though less frequently than Thackeray, and
with less subtlety (there are readers, I
believe, who do not rise to the latter' s
Wenham and Percy Sibwright). But most
people who know Dickens' s books well would
probably agree that " Gamp " has no
original significance, however appropriate
to the person association may seem to have
made it. When Mrs. Gamp hands her
professional card to Mercy with the words :
" Gamp is my name, and Gamp my nater,"
the absurdity is apparent, and to analyse
it might argue an imperviousness to humour.
The comparison or antithesis between name
and nature, though not illustrated by the
'N.E.D.,' is of long standing, and like most
things it comes in Swift's * Polite Conversa-
ion ' : —
Lord Sparkish. Pray, Madam, does your Lady-
ship know Mrs. Nice?
Lady Smart. Perfectly well, my Lord ; she's nice
by Name, and nice by Nature.
A remark of Mrs. Gamp's which should be
compared with that given above is to be
found in a later chapter of * Martin
Chuzzlewit ' (xxix.) : —
"Where's the patient goin'?" asked Sweedle-
pipe.
"Into Har'fordshire, which is his native air.
But native airs nor native graces neither," Mrs.
Clamp observed, 4t won't bring him round."
EDWARD BENSLY.
Ouclle Cottage, Much ELadham, Herts.
DR. STOCKS (12 S. v. 237).— According to
5oa:-e's ' Modern English Biography,' Dr.
rohn Ellerton Stocks was the son of B.
Stocks, manager of the Hull Branch of the
> Bank of England, and was born at Cotting-
lam, near Hull, in 1826. He was educated
it University College, London, obtained the
degree of M.D., and was elected a Fellow
)f the Linnaean Society in 1848. From
1844 until his death he wras an assistant
surgeon in the Bombay Medical Service,,
while he also acted as Vaccinator and then.
Inspector of Drugs in Scinde, and was
Conservator of Forests during Dr. A. .
Gibson's absence on furlough. He arrived
in England in the winter of 1853, bringing
extensive collections of plants, and he
deposited in the Kew Museum complete sets
of the economic products of the countries
visited by him. He died suddenly at
Cottingham on Aug. 30? 1854. A memoir
of him will be found in The Gentleman's
Magazine for October, 1854.
ARCHIBALD SPARKE.
GEORGE BORROW : LIEUT. PARRY (12 S.
v. 95). — No replies having appeared, I may
perhaps say that I have accidentally come
across the following reference to a Lieut.
Perry in Irving's ' Annals of Our Time,'
under date of June 29, 1854 : —
"Quarrel, leading to a Court-martial, between
Lieut. Greer and Lieut. Perry, of the 46th Regt.,
stationed at Windsor Barracks The verdict laid;
before the Commander-in-chief recommended that
Lieut. Perry be dismissed the service, and Greer
severely reprimanded : but this being thought con-
trary to evidence. Her Majesty was pleased not to>
confirm the sentence. A Horse Guards' Memoran-
dum of the 2nd of September explained the course
which Lord Hardinge thought proper to take in-
bringing the questions relating to the discipline of
the 46th to an issue."
Borrow seems to have written declaiming
injustice to Parry (or Perry) before non-
confirmation of the court-martial sentence ;.
and as ' Wild Wales ' did not reach publica-
tion for some years after it was written, it
would seem that no revision of his original
manuscript was attempted by the author.
W. B. H.
GILBERT WHITE: PORTRAIT OF (12 S.
v. 264). — The portrait mentioned at the
above reference represented a young, round-
faced man, wearing a grey wig, with a clerical
collar and bands. Attached to the frame
was a tablet apparently of early nineteenth-
century date, bearing the name Gilbert
White. Of course the mere lettering of the
tablet would prove nothing, but some experts
were of opinion that the features bore a very
marked family likeness to an authentic
portrait of Thomas White, the brother of the
author of the ' Natural History,' then in the
possession of a member of the family, and
that both pictures were the work of the same
artist, Thomas Robinson, who towards the
end of his life migrated to Ireland and became
president of the Dublin Society of Artists.
The authenticity of the portrait could not be
definitely established because nothing was
334
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[128. V. DEC., 1919
Iknown of its history prior to its being found
-one Friday afternoon in August, 1912, at the
• Caledonian Market, but so far as I am aware,
it was never suggested that it was a forgery.
The painting was acquired by Mr. John
• Glen of 34 Davies Street, Berkeley Square,
but I am not aware in whose possession it
now is. It was reproduced in The Daily
Mail of Mar. 3, 1913. G. P.
THREE CRIPPLED, FIELD LANE (12 S.
v. 292). — This sign was probably invented
by Dickens. There does not appear to have
• ever been a tavern so named in that district,
but there was at one time a Three Cocks in
'Cow Lane, and a Three Kings in Clerkenwell
Close, both near to Field Lane.
T. W. TYRRELL.
EXCHANGE OF SOULS IN FICTION (12 S.
v. 124, 191, 246, 279, 306).— Sir A. Conan
Doyle's short story, ' The Great Keinplatz
Experiment,' to be found in the volume
' The Captain of the Polar Star, and Other
Tales' (Longmans). R. GRIME.
ELEPHANT: OLIPHANT (12 S. v. 238, 301).
— I think you will find the facts to be that
the origin of the name was William Olifard,
who came over with William the Conqueror
'from France and then attached himself to the
Scotch cause.
Later another William Olifard, when
fighting at the side of his king in an unequal
combat with the Saracens, refreshed him
when exhausted with a draught of water
from his drinking horn made of an elephant's
tusk. For that the king knighted him on
the field of battle, Sir William Olifaunt,
which is one of the old spellings of elephant.
It will be remembered that the arms of the
Lairds of Gask have two elephants for
supporters. It was through the good
offices of Sir Walter Scott that the fortunes
of the Oliphants lost by the family alliance
to the Jacobite cause were restored.
W. ELWIN OLIPHANT.
Wabern, Berne, Switzerland.
AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED (12 S. v. 295). —
1. The lines quoted, but incorrectly so, are from
A. C. Swinburne's poem "A Match," (Poems and
Ballads, first series). The correct version is :—
If you were April's Lady,
And I were lord in May,
We'd throw with leaves for hours
And draw for days with flowers,
Till day like night were shady
And night were bright like day ;
If you were April's lady,
And I were lord in May.
W. A. HUTCHISON.
[Several other correspondents also thanked for
replies.]
THOMAS COTESMORE (12 S. v.292). — 1 t
afraid that my last two lines at the abo
reference are a stupid mistake. The Thorr
Cotesmore I was writing about, is said
have died in prison in 1584. The Thorr
Cotesmore to whom the passage in t
' Chetham Soc. Publ.' relates was a semina
priest ordained in 1580, and sent to Engla
in 1582. JOHN B. WAINEWBIGHT.
fiofca 0n 18aofcs,
The Oxford EnaHsh Dictionary.— (Vol. IX. S\
Th.) Sfratuv-Styx By Henry Bradley. Swe
Szmikite. By C. T. Onions. '(Oxford, Clarerid
Press, each 5s. net. )
THE latest section of the Dictionary completes tl
immense letter S. T had been finished earlier, a
so the work of Dr. Bradley and his coadjutors
nearing its end. U, V, and Z, will not,
imagine, be anything like so formidable to tackle
W, which remains the chief task. The letter Si
the interesting Preface added to Mr. Onio
section informs us, extends to 2408 pages, a fi
which is sufficient alone to indicate the v!
superiority of the Dictionary over any other in a
language. The shelter of " Academick bower
which Johnson missed, has been amply justified
the achievements begun by the late Sir Jan
Murray at Mill Hill. The war withdrew in succ
sion several members of the Dictionary Staff, a
the Editor himself in the second half of 1918 ; t
advance through the alphabet has been steady a
successful, and the latest parts are full of exhai
tive analysis, copious quotations, and new knc
ledge.
Dr. Bradley has dealt with several familiar woi
which have a wealth of meanings. " Strike " a
"Stunt" bring his information quite up-to-da
The former word is an instance of the wonder
work of the Dictionary in analysing varic
senses. The "strikes" the public have reason
remember are so-called from the development oi
nautical phrase. Dr. Johnson in his Dictions
knew nothing of them. It is difficult to be si
that we have missed no example in the imposi
display of quotations ; but we think Matth<
Arnold's "Strike leftward cries our guide" in 1
4 Stanzas from the Grande Chartreuse ' would be
suitable addition. " Strinel " is one of sevei
words which will be quite new to the avera
reader. "Strip" is a familiar word which ags
illustrates the wonderful work of the Dictionai
The derivation of " Stroll " is uncertain, but it m
be, we learn, among the High German woi
introduced in the seventeenth century by soldie
Swift's "Struldbrug" is included, an arbitra
invention which has sufficiently impressed itself
the language to lead to " Struldhruggian " a
" Struldbrugism " The quotation for " strumi
in 1784 is the title of a book. A notorious instan
of that disease was Dr. Johnson, and on p. 4
the life by Hawkins is a reference to ''thestrun
or, as it is called, the king's-evil." " Stud ;> incluc
two different nouns- "Studio" is first quoted
i 1819, though we should have exppcted to find it
I the eighteenth century. "Stuff" is obscure
' etymology, and is a good, honest English wo
12 S. V. DEC., 1919.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
335
which has somewhat gone out of fashion. " Stum
bling-block " was introduced by Tindale in his
version of the New Testament, but the phrase
"stumble over a block" (of wood) is earlier. The
cricket sense of "stump" is traced back to 1735,
but the pulling up of stumps is a still earlier phrase.
"Stunning," a popular adjective for a time,
answering to the present "tophole," did not lash,
we gather, beyond the eighties of last century.
"Stupefy" is rightly so spelt, following its Latin
origin, but it was till recently spelt "stupify."
"Stupid" has the same sense, meaning originally
"deadened" or "dulled in the faculties."
"Sturdy" is an old word, for it originally meant
44 giddy," and its derivation is still unsettled. All
the suggestions offered seem decidedly fanciful in
sense, but we cannot say that any of them is far
fetched in view of " muscle '*='' little mouse," and
other known peculiarities of derivation. The
"stymie "of the golfer is also of obscure origin
It is curious that the Dictionary does not put it
baok beyond 1856.
Looking again at the Preface attached to the sec-
tion edited by Mr. Onions we find that the number
of main words included under 'S' is 27,929, of
which 5,487 are obsolete. The number of quotations
is 298,006, truly a heroic record of diligence !
The section begins in the middle of "Sweep,'
which with its derivations is an important word
'Sweep-stake'1 originally meant "Sweeping," or
taking the whole of the stake, and was used in the
sixteenth and seventeenth centuries for "a clea
sweep." Among the derivations of "sweet" is
Shakespeare's pretty "sweeting" which did not
catch on in later language as a term of endearment,
though English is generally lacking in such expres-
sions. The original William after whom the
' Sweet-william " was named no man knows,
i 'Swelt" will be new to most people, being obsolete
for many years, except in dialect. The cognate
[* Sweal." to scorch, is in Barnes's 'Glossary of the
Dorset Dialect.' " Swelth," " swench," and " swepe''
\ whip) are other effective sounding words now lost
bo the language. "Swig" includes six words.
| 'Swim" irf the sense of giddiness has no poetical
h notation in the nineteenth century. " Farewell,
life! my senses swim" occurs in Hood's 'Stansas,'
\pril, 1845. "Swing" is a long and interesting
yord, and has a special sense derived from a
ictitious Captain Swing, under whose name in-
imidatiim letters were sent to farmers and land-
Owners in 1830-1. " Swingeing damages," when so
jpelt, reveals the origin of the verb as " swinge,"
i' beat, thrash." The word " Swisser " reminds us
hat old-fashioned people within our memory used
|o talk of " Swisserland." The "switchback"
ailway is a joy introduced apparently in 1838.
I Swot," the hard work of the schoolboy, is illus-
jrated first from our own columns, which give its
ierivation at Sandhurst. " Symposium " originally
leans a drinking party, and Plato's famous dia-
pgue has led to its use for discussions of the driest
haracter, in which there may be much " swotting,"
lit there is little "swigging." "Syringa" is used
|y ordinary people fora well-known shrub with white
lossoms, but the botanist calls it "Philadeiphus."
'' is curious that the term " mock-orange." which
as quite a good one, should have been discarded
1 favour of a Greek form of word The learned
(imes of plants seem to indicate that they were
inored by the common people, and mainly recog-
Ised by men of science.
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and TAVERN SIGNS.]
1 Abanazar," its meaning as an epithet, 68, 106
Abdolla,' its meaning, 182, 243
Uxmlcasem, reference to him, 268
Accentuation, changes noticed in ' New English
Dictionary,' 32, 105, 137, 166
Adeste Fideles,' its date, and Rabelais's supposed
parody, 292, 329
kinslie Bond, its whereabouts and history, 41, 80
Lirship, London-Paris project, 1835, 58 ; adver-
tisement, 59, 107
Uabaculia, name of racehorse, its origin, 98, 163
Albania,' anonymous work, author wanted, 211
Udelima, 1280, its locality, 96, 157
Lldersons, Warrington glassmakers, information
wanted, 152
Udridge (Ida F.), negro actor, his history, 263
Alexander, Athlone merchant, c. 1750, particulars
wanted, 292
Lliens in Maidstone in 1567, 169
Jlen (Edward), painter and engraver, partculars
wanted, 126
Jleynes or Aliens at Westminster school, 291
Ambassador, a definition of, its origin, 210, 243
America's Reply,' poem, particulars wanted, 317
Lrnerican link with Winchester, 206
Lmerican soldiers, the first killed in the War, 36
Amorous Miser,' anonymous play, and ' Farewel
Folly,' 310
Anderson (Sir Francis), his descendants wanted,
122
mderson (William), artist, place of his death
wanted, 209
Andrews family, detail wanted, 124
" Anglo-Saxon contagion," Matthew Arnold on,
38
Anguish family of Somerleyton, 165
Anguish Street, Lowestoft, origin of name,
122, 165, 194, 221
Animal-lover, an eighteenth -century, his epitaph,
290
Ann of Swansea, identity wanted, 322
Anne's (Queen) exercise of Sovereign's Veto, 95,.
155, 214, 272
Anonymous Works : —
'Albania,' 211 ;
' Amorous Miser,' 310
' Art of Conversation,' 267
' Hints to Freshmen,' 290
' Piso's Conspiracy,' 254, 299, 323
'Voyages of Capt. Robert Boyle,' 294,
329
Ant-bear, its indifference to hunger, 125, 193
Anthem, " Lord, for Thy tender mercy's sake,"
its author wanted, 291
* Anthologia Graeca,' Johnson's translation, 10, 49
Apochromatic, pronunciation of the word, 209,
250, 277
Aragonise, a knight, mention and query about, 26
Archery, the longest bowshot, 180, 220, 278
" Argyles "—gravy-pots, origin of name, 154,
219, 248, 326
Aristotle on the Greek temperament, 22
Arms on stone entablature, information wanted,
293
Army list, English, of 1740, 270
Army officers, 1727-60, obituary list wanted, 233 "
Arnold (Matthew) on " Anglo-Saxon Contagion,"
38 ; proving a negative, 38, 83
Notes and Queries, Jan., 1920.
Arnold (W. H.), author of " The Devil's Bridge,''
&c., 126, 166
44 Art of Conversation," its author wanted, 267
" As dead as a doornail," its origin, 266, 303, 304
Astertion flowers — nasturtium, 267, 302
4 Atheist's Tragedy,' by Tourneur, its date, 228
Aubrey (Rev. Thomas), Rector of Brobury, his
grave, 290
Auchmutz (Robert), American loyalist, his tomb-
stone, 236
Audlem near Nantwich, connected with Aldelima,
157
Augury from magpies in Shakespeare, 5, 116
Australian memorial inscriptions : St. James's
Church, Sydney, 174
Austrian money from London Mint for Abyssinia,
12
Aviation, project, in 1835, 58, 107; prophetic
verses in eighteenth century, 64
Aylesford, Countless Stones, bibliography wanted,
318
Badulla, Ceylon, tombstone at, 37, 78, 167
Bagnal family, its history, 176
Baillie (Dr. George Robertson), information
wanted, 151
Baillie (Thomas), particulars wanted of four
persons of that name, 293
41 Bambino," wax figure, information wanted, 207
Bank note slang, 309
Bank of England, its nickname, 238
Bannister (Anthony), his statue, at Hull, 147
Bannister family of Antigua, information wanted,
152
' Baptiste Mantuani Carmelite,' poems, particulars
of editions, 12
Baring family, memorial at Exeter, 89
Barnard, Col", 1778, painted by Romney, particu-
lars wanted, 238
Barnard (Dudley) or Bernard, information wanted,
68
Barnard or Bernard family, information wanted,
68, 182
Barr family arms, information wanted, 153'
Barroon as street name, information wanted, 317
Barth, place-name, its reference, 238, 279
Bartlett (Rev. W.), Rector of Newark, 125
Bat, figure of. as door-knocker, explained, 149
Batchelor (John), his statue at Cardiff, 146
Bats entangled in hair, 210
Baxter (Richard), his family, 66, 130
" Bayninge," obsolete name of bird, 125
Beaconsfield (Benjamin Disraeli, Earl of), alleged
pension to Martin Tupper, 11 ; birthplace, 204,
328; description of Gladstone , 1 1 ; educated
at Walthamstow, 287 ; statue at Bolton, 312
Bedford House, Bloomsbury, particulars of sale
in 1800, 148
Bell 'John), of Scarborough, information required,
291
Bell Tavern, Broad Street, Bristol, particulars
wanted, 295
Bells, Hampshire church, and their founders, 44,
109, 304
Benedict XII., Pope, statement about him
questioned, 266, 305
Berkshire tombstone inscriptions, 182
Bernard (Dudley) or Barnard, information sought
Bertram de Bourne,' ballad, information wante<
318
3ewdley apprentices and Mothering Sunday, 6;
' Biajer " sea-gipsies, 24
Bibliographical Society of Ireland, inauguri
meeting and objects, 111
Bibliography : —
Ackermann (A. S. E.), 'Popular Fallacies
210
' Boyle (Capt. Robert), Vovages of,' 29
Briefs, church, 294, 331
Byron (George Gordon, 6tb Lord), h
Apocryphal writings, 1 13, 143
Byron as a character in fiction, 80
Byron's ' Don Juan,' cantos 17 and 18, 17
240
Campbell (Sir Gilbert), his poems, 238
Caractacus, works on, 237, 275
Cistercian Order, 320
' Countless Stones,' Aylesford, 318
Crusaders, MS. list, 236
de Mandeville (Bernard), editions, 210
' De Sanctis ' the Anglo-French version, 28
Druids, works on the, 237, 275
Du Maurier (George), kev to his nov
'Trilby,' 151, 245
Diirer's engraved works, 231
Epitaphs, 68, 129. 161, 192, 218, 274
Hamilton (Walter), F.R.G.S., his article
318
Henricus de Hoyta, 265, 298
Henricus Hembuch de Hassia dictus <
Langenstein, 265, 298
Immurement (mediaeval), 320
Irish county and town histories, 147
Knox's ' spirit of despotism,' 176
London Feace Celebrations, 175, 213, 315
Mam (David M.)» writer on the Engli
sonnet. 236
Mortars, domestic and others, 250, 277
Isew Shakspere Society publications. 162
Norfolk MSS., 182, 217
Plane trees, 205
' Popular Fallacies,' by A. S. E. Ackerman
210
Prudentius's ' Psychomachia,' translation
14, 75
Richard I's captivity, books on, 77
Roberts (Morley), key to his novel, ' Life
Henry Maitland,' 151, 269
Robertson (John), pseudonymous poet, 49
Royal Bengal, Madras or Bombay Artillei
bibliography of works by officers hi the, 1
Lt.-Col. J. H. Leslie and Lt.-Col. D. Smit
27
Scientific MSS., mediaeval, 206
Scott's ' Quentin Durward,' 268, 306
Souls exchanged in fiction, 124, 191, 246, 21
306, 334
Southey (R.), contributions to ' Critit
Review,' 187
Stained glass, old, 70
' Struwwelpeter,' English translations, 68
' Swiss Family Robinson,' 1st Eng. editic
320
Temple -Bar, iconography, 253
Thackeray (Wm. M.), ' The Newcome
key to, 14, 77
Thames tunnels, 181, 297, 298
Wheatley (James), Methodist cobbler, 267
Notes and Queries, Jan., 1920.
SUBJECT INDEX.
339
'•Bigamy and divorce, attitude of Mr. Justice
Maule, 64, 129
Billheads and cards of tradesmen, particulars
wanted, 317
'Billingsley (John), letter to Richard Edwards,
1673, 34 ; note on, 34
Bird-names, two obsolete, 125
''Birds in captivity poisoned by others, 210, 273
"Bird-scarers' songs, 98, 160, 246
'Birth, place-name, its reference, 238, 279
'Bishops of Church of England in America, list
wanted, 264
'Bishops, three in fifteenth century, 107, 161,
273
'Blackman family of Sussex, information wanted,
181
'Blacksmith, the Village,' original shop, 211,
248, 299
Blackwell Hall Factor, explanation of term,
266, 306
"Blades family of < 'overdale and Wensleydale, 40
Blake (Robert), scholar at Westminster School,
41.81
Blackstone the Regicide, particulars wanted. 291
"*' Blankett " obsolete bird-name, 125
Blue eye and Ancient Order of Foresters, 22
Blupcoat Schools, list of, 126, 158, 159, 218, 302,
332
" Blues. The Derby," 1745, volunteer corps,
138
Boase (Rev. Charles William), 88, 95
Boase (Frederic), biographer, 88, 95, 161
Boase (George Clement), biographer, 88, 95,
161
" Boche," its etymology, 182
Bolton, co. Lanes., memorial cross there, 312
Bonaparte (Lucien), his captivity at Ludlow,
236, 300
Bond family, bell-founders, 45
* Bonfire night,' doggerel lines, 318
" Bontefeu," meaning of word, 66, 108
iSooks recently published: —
Ashdown (Charles Henry), F.R.G.S., History
of the Worshipful Company of Glaziers of
of the City of London, 251
Boswell's (James) Life of Samuel Johnson,
selections from, chosen, &c., by R. W.
Chapman, 196
Bradley's (Henry) Oxford English Dictionary :
Stratus— Styx, 334
Bradley (Henry), Spoken and written English,
307
Brougham's (Eleanor M.), Corn from Olde
Fieldes : an Anthology of English Poems
from the Fourteenth to the Seventeenth
Century, 167
Cambridge, A Concise Guide to the Town and
University of, by J. Willis Clark, 6th edn.,
307
Chapman (R. W.), editor. Selections from
Boswell's Life of Samuel Johnson, 196
Child, The Natural History of the, by Dr.
Courtenay Dunn, 280
Clark (John Willis), M.A., A Concise Guide to
the Town and University of Cambridge,
6th edn., 307
Corn from Olde Fieldes : an Anthology of
English Poems from the Fourteenth to the
Seventeenth Century, by Eleanor M,.
Brougham, 167
Books recently published :—
Crisp (Frederick H.) (editor), Visitation of
England and Wales, XIX., 139 ; Visitation
of Ireland, VI., 139
Dames (M- Longworth), translator, &c., Book
of Duarte Barbosa, 195
Duarte Barbosa, Book of, trans., &c., by M.
Longworth Dames, 195
Dunn (Dr. Courtenay), The Natural History
of the Child, 280
Fielding (Henry), The Tragedy of Tragedies
or, The Life and Death of Tom Thumb the
Great, 54
Foundling, " The Child She Bare," 280
Genealogist (The), New Series, Vol. XXXIV.,
84
Glaziers of the City of London, History of the
Worshipful Company, by C. H. Ashdown,
F.R.G.S., 250
Hayden (Arthur), Chats on Royal Copenhagen
Porcelain, 84
Hillhouse (James T.), editor. The Tragedy
of Tragedies, by Henry Fielding, 54
Indexes of Irish Wills, Vol. IV., Dromore,
Newry and Mourne ; ed. by Gertrude
Thrift, 110
L'Interme'diaire des chercheurs et curieux,
335
Jebb (Sir Richard C.), Milton : Areopagitica,
251
Johnson, The Story of Doctor : an Introduc-
tion to Boswell's Life, by S. C. Roberts, 167
Journal of the Folk-Song Society, No. 21
(Vol. VI., Pt. 1), 139
I^atin Epigraphy : an Introduction to the
Study of Latin Inscriptions, by Sir J. E.
Sandys, 280
Leslie (Lt.-Col. John H.), R.A. (retired list)
and Smith (Lt.-Col. D.), R.A., A Biblio-
graphy of Works by Officers, Non-Com-
missioned Officers and Men who have ever
served in the Royal Bengal, Madras or
Bombay Artillery i Parts VI. and VII.,
Gascoigne — Jacob, 27
Markham (Sir Clements R.), trans, and ed.,
War of Chupas, 195
Milton : Areopagitica : with a Commentary
by Sir Richard C. Jebb, 251
Onions's (C. T.), Oxford English Dictionary :
Sweep — Szmikite, 334
Oxford Almanack for the Year of our Lord
God MDCCCCXIX., 84
Oxford English Dictionary : Stratus — Styx,
by H. Bradley, 334 ; Sweep — Szmikite, by
C. T. Onions, 334
Quiller-Couch (Sir Arthur), Shakespeare's
Workmanship, 27
Roberts (S. C.), The Story of Doctor John-
son : an Introduction to Boswell's Life, 167
Royds (Thomas Fletcher), The Beasts, Birds
and Bees of Virgil : a Naturalist's Hand-
book to the Georgics ; Virgil and Isaiah :
a Study of the ' Pollio,' with Translations,
Notes and Appendices, 111
Sandys (Sir J. E.), Latin Epigraphy : an
Introduction to the Study of Latin Inscrip-
tions, 280
Shakespeare's Workmanship, by Sir A.
Quiller-Couch, 27
Smith (Lt.-Col. D.), R.A., see Leslie (Lt.-Col.
John H.).
340
SUJbJJJJAJT IJNJLUiiA.
Notes and Queries, Jan., 1920.
Books recently published: —
Smith (David Nichol), Characters from the
Histories and Memoirs of the Seventeenth
Century, 83
Spoken and Written English, by Henry
Bradley, 307
Thrift (Gertrude) (editor) Indexes to Irish
Wills, Vol. IV., 110
Toynbie (Paget), D.Litt. : Supplement to the
Letters of Horace Walpole, 2 vols., 223
Tragedy of Tragedies ; or, The Life and
Death of Tom Thumb the Great, by Henry
Fielding. Ed. by James T. Hillhouse, 54
Visitation of England and Wales, Vol. XIX.,
ed. Frederick A. Crisp, 139
Visitation of Ireland, Vol. VI., ed. Frederick
A. Crisp, 139
Walpole (Horace), Supplement to the Letters
of, arranged by Paget Toynbee, D.Litt.,
2 vols., 223
War of Chupas ; trans, and edited by Sir
Clements R. Markham, 195
Booksellers' Catalogues, 28, 56, 111, 140, 168,
196, 224, 252, 307, 335
Borough Courts : " Jur de la vile," 39
Borrow (George), identification of his localities,
165: memoranda for a book on Cornwall, 237 ;
mention of Lieut. Parry, 95, 333
Boswell (James), an error in his Life of Johnson,
176
Boulogne, registers of English births, marriages
and deaths there, 181 ; statue to Jenner, 288
Boumphrey family of Manchester and Liverpool,
67, 138
Boutell's (Rev. Chas.) printing catalogue of paint-
ing and sculpture, 173
Bow-Bridge, Old, and Pyrgo Park, 229
Bowshot, the longest, 180, 220, 278
Boyer family, particulars wanted, 294
Boyle (Capt. Robert), privateer, book of his
voyages, 294, 329
Boys born in May cruel to parents, Chinese belief,
25
Brady (Patrick), particulars of family wan ted, 291
Bran (George), Bishop of Dromore, 107, 161, 273
Brasses (monumental) at East Hatley, co. Cam-
bridge, 260
Brassey, or Bracey, family, its history, 302
Bransford, Worcestershire, mills at, 149
Bredwardine incumbents and patrons, 200
Breslau churches, eighteenth century collection
for, 18 J
Brewing rimes, examples, 209
Briefs, church, books about, 294, 331
Bristol, name of hotel in Calcutta, 25
Bristol, particulars of Bell Tavern, Broad Street,
wanted, 295
Bristol wills, old, c. 1500, missing, 122
Brobury incumbents and patrons, 200
Bronte (Patrick Bran well), his poem, ' Juan
Fernandez,' 177
Brown (Alexander A.), memorial at Daventry, 146
Brown family of Brown's Bay, near Larne, 98
Brown (Joseph) of Sunderland, particulars of, 54
Brown (Thomas) (1663-1704), confused with Sir
Thomas Browne, 6, 110
Browne (Sir Thomas) see Brown (Thomas)
" Buffaloes, Royal Antediluvian Order of,"
particulars of, 237,*,276
Bugden (Edmund), letter to Richard Edwards
118
Bullivant (Samuel), letter to Richard Edwards
33, 117
" Bully," in Coleridge, 69
Bulteel family, evidence of marriages wanted, 31i
Bunnett (Henry), artist, information wanted, 66
Burial at sea, four gun salute for an officei
38, 106
Burial of heart, an example in Palestine, 134
Burials : see also Internments
Burns (Robert), his song, ' The Poor Thresher,
66, 108
Burrell (William), centenarian, informatio]
wanted, 12
Burt (Albin R.), miniature painter, 167
" Burton (Richard)", pseudonym of Nathanie
Crouch, 75
Byron (John), author of 'Three Black Crows,' 16(
Byron (George Gordon, 6th Lord), Apocrypha
writings, 113, 143; bust at Oxford, 122, 163
' Don Juan,' cantos 17 and 18, 179, 240; as t
character in fiction, 80 ; lines on a statue ii
Fleet Street, 40, 82, 107
Calais, Dessin's Hotel, its history, 20, 21, 51 ; Louis
XVIII. monument, 288
Calendar!, lake near Thusis, its position, 13, 51
Campbell (Sir Gilbert), title of his poems wanted
238
Cambrai mentioned in 1577, 26
Cambridge University, list of alumni, 66
" Camouflage," occurrence in American telegram,
42, 79 ; its origin, 108, 136
Cantrell family, particulars wanted, 291, 332 ; Irish
branch, information wanted, 68
Captor and his captive's arms, instance, 26, 133
Caractacus, works on his life, 237, 275
Carlyle (Thomas), his supposed work. ' Cobden :
a Bagman, with a Calico Millennium,' 291 ; on
studying astronomy, 150
Carew tournament, information wanted about
persons present, 152
Carrique (John), evidence of his marriage wanted,
316
Cartwright family, connected with Labrador and
Newfoundland, information wanted, 97
Cassell (Miss), her memorial at Kew, 146
Cat, lines on the Puritan hanging his, 232
Catalogue of painting and sculpture, punning, 173
" Cellarius," a dance, information wanted, 319
Chadwick (Samuel Taylor), statue at Bolton, 312
Challoner, Bishop, his father Richard Challonei
235
Challoner (Richard), 235
Chaloner family of Sussex, pedigree wanted, 235
Chapman family of Ormsley, details wanted, 40
Charles I. farthing found, 195
Charles I.'s journey from Oxford to Southwell,
182, 326
Charter, a Gloucester, of Henry I., 16, 72, 101
Cheshire, old custom of " Thwertnic " or " Thiert-
nie," 93
Chess, the Knight's tour, 92, 136, 326
Chesterfield Letters, publication of new, 154, 215
Cheveley (John), marine painter, particulars
wanted, 68
Chinese anticipation of submarines, 131
Christian fathers, English translations of, 295, 330
Notes and tQueries,' Jan. , 1920.
SUBJECT INDEX.
341
ChristianNam.es: —
Early occurrence of double, 289
Hervey, 95, 167, 189, 246, 306
Ismenia, 25
Ladysmith Shamrock, 206
Louisa spelt Leweezer, 237, 276
Lueazer, 276
Richenda, 237, 324 ' .
Sol, a woman's name, 21
Thistle Dijon, 206
Christmas carol, " To-morrow shall be my dancing
day," origin wanted, 320
'Christmas lines spoken by Sheffield children,
'46, 82
•Church bells, Hampshire, their founders, 44,
109, 304
Church briefs, looks about, 294, 331
Church of England bishops in America, list
wanted, 264
Church of England marriage service, Sir W. Scott's
satire on, 208, 242, 278
Church plate, crest on, 50
Churches used for the election of municipal officers,
127, 162
•Cistercian order in England, bibliography wanted,
320
Clap^un as street name, information wanted, 317
Clarke (Mary), of New York, particulars of, 236,
278
•" Clarte" est la bonne foi des philosophes," 39,
105, 135
Classical parallelisms to the war, 57, 189
•Clay balls as Christmas collecting boxes, 39, 79,
•Clements family, information wanted, 126
Clenock (Rev. Dr.), Rector of English Catholic
College, Rome, 124, 161
Clerke (Edmund), clerk of the Privy Seal, his
history, 12, 83
Clifton family of Clifton, Notts, 98
Clitheroe marriage registers, duplicate entries in,
198
Clock- and watch-makers, 153, 237, 241, 305
-Clover (Joseph), of Norwich, and his son, particu-
lars wanted, 11
* Cobden : a Bagman, with a Calico Millennium,'
particulars wanted, 291
Cock as French national emblem, 94, 131
•Cockle (James), patentee of the anti-bilious pills,
particulars of, 154, 190
Cogan (Eliezer), Walthamstow schoolmaster, his
history, 286
^Coins : —
Ancient British, collected, 121
Ancient Irish gold, 301
Farthing of Charles I., 195
Sestertius of Vespasian, 301
Colby (Sir Thomas), his kinsmen, 180
Coleridge (S. T.) on ' Bully,' 69 ; immortality, 39
Collecting boxes, Christmas, clay balls as, 39, 79
Collingwood (Alexander), information wanted of
his wife's parentage, 320
Collins (Mr. and Mrs. G. D.), memorial at Wisbech,
146
Colville (John, 7th Lord), precise date of death
wanted, 293
Concannon family, details wanted, 265
*' Conduitt, the beautiful Mrs.", information
wanted, 321
" Congewoi," meaning of term wanted, 264
Considine (Capt. Wm.), 69th regiment, memorial
at Chester, 261
Constant Reformation, flagship, 1651, its chaplain,
Constellations, knowledge of, Carlyle on, 150
Convex and conic lights, c. 1700, 125
Cook (Captain), discoverer, his statue in Sydney,
Cooke (Charles), bookseller, his history, 210
Cooper (Samuel), painter, an ancestor of Whist-
ler (?), 70
Coorg State : strange tale of Princess Gouramma,
264, 296
Cope (William), died 1715, place of education
wanted, 294
Cornish biographers and bibliographers, 88
Cornwall, Sorrow's notes for his proposed book
on, 237
Corpse visited by the released soul, 205
Correspondents, notices to, 28, 56, 84, 112, 140,
168, 196, 224, 252, 280, 308, 336
Cotesmore (Thomas), priest, sixteenth century,
particulars wanted, 292, 334
Coulson (Col. W. L. Blenkinsopp), memorial to,
at Newcastle-on-Tyne, 145
Countless Stones, Ay lesford, bibliography wanted,
olo
Court of St. James, first use of term in diplomacy,
265, 324
Courtney (Wm. Prideaux), biographer, 88
Cowap surname, its etymology, 206, 247, 272
Cowper (W.), his ' Sephus,' 258
Cragg family, arms of, 130
Craggs family related to Nicholson family, 21, 130
Cramahe" (Hector Theophilus), supposed husband
of Margaret Hamilton, 289, 327
Creighton (Bishop) on history, 66
" Crest," measure for crest-cloth, 69
Crest on church plate, 50
Crest-cloth, measurement of, 69
' Critical Review,' Southey's contributions to, 187
Cromwell (Oliver), ensign, 1727, his history, 292,
331
Cromwell (Mrs. Susan), last of Oliver Cromwell's
descendants, 232, 277
Crosier, when carried by the Pope, 24
Cross (James Kynaston), M.P., bust at Bolton,
313
Cross, the sign of the, its use, 236
Crouch (Nathaniel), his pseudonym ' Richard
Burton,' 95
Crow- fig, old name for nux vomica, 14
Crown of Edward the Confessor represented in a
tapestry, 232
Crucifix, lines under a, origin, 19, 135
Crusade (Third), list of recruits to, 236
Crusaders with Bishops Peter de Rupibus and
William Briwer, list wanted, 293
Daggle Mop, places where term used wanted, 293
Dale (John), successor to John Durston, 276
Dalley (Rt. Hon. William Bede), P.C., his statue
in Sydney, 177
Dance, " Cellarius," c. 1847, information wanted,
319
Dance tunes, old, in Salisbury Cathedral library,
85
Dante, article of Gladstone on, 122
Danvers family, information wanted, 320
342
SUBJECT INDEX.
Notes and Queries, Jan., 1920.
Daudet's ' Jack,' illustrated by Myrbach, notes
on, 150, 219
" Dayerdy," meaning of word, 11, 166
David, ' Episcopus Becreensis,' 1315, origin of his
title wanted, 238, 326
Dawson (Robert), Bishop of Clonfert, his family,
188
" Deacon in love," meaning of term, 42, 104,
159, 219
Deering (George), information wanted, 319
Defoe (Daniel), connection with Alexander Selkirk
177
Dehany family, 268, 330
de Mandeville (Bernard), editions of his works,
210
De Miners family, its history, 170 ; see also 16,
72, 101
Denis (Sir Peter), his history, 206, 242
Dennis (Edward) the hangman, his fate, 235
" Derby Blues," history of the corps, 97, 138
Derby race of 1811, reference wanted, 124
Desaguliers (Rev. John Theophilus), D.C.L.,
F.R.S., particulars of marriage wanted, 318
" De Sanctis," the Anglo-French version, 281
Dessin's Hotel, Calais, its history, 20, 51
Devey family, information wanted, 95
Devils blowing horns and trumpets, 48, 186
Devonshire House, an old river bed behind it, 288
Dickens's (Charles) error in ' Barnaby Rudge,'
about Dennis the hangman, 235 ; his careless-
ness about the use of cheques, 136, 187 ; a
peculiarity of his style, 164; topographical slips
in ' Our Mutual Friend,' 37 ; in ' Tale of Two
Cities,'fcl36, 187, 222 ; in ' David Copperfield,'
164 ; in' Sketches by Boz,' 250
Dickson (Janet), wife of John Home of Foulshot-
law, 10
Dillon (Chevalier Peter), his history, 206, 271
" Dinkum Shop," meaning of phrase, 7, 79
" Dish " in Latin, its gender, 266, 300
Divorce and bigamy, attitude of Mr. Justice
Maule, 61, 129
Divorce, list of cases wanted, 1755-1765, 207
Dobson (Lt.-Col. Sir Benjamin A.), statue at
Bolton, 312
Docwra family, its history, 260
Dodd the forger, Wills's play about, 124
Dorrian (James), M.D., statue at Bolton, 313
" Double Falsehood," play, its disputed author-
ship, 30, 60, 86
" Down " and " up " often misused, 262
" Dress-maker's twist," " mantle-maker's twist,"
75
" Drofsilver " and " drof court," in fifteenth cen-
tury, 313
Dromore, its fifteenth century bishops, 107, 161
Druids, works about them wanted, 237, 275
Dublin, tolls levied at Metal-bridge, 159
DufEus family of Kingston, Jamaica, 207
Dugdale Society proposed to publish Warwick-
shire records, 223
Du Maurier (G.), key to 'Trilby,' 151, 245
Duncombe's (Sir Sanders) powder, 41
Dundas and Pitt, drinking at New Cross, 151,
1 t/O
Diirer's joke about Wilibald Pirkheimer, 231
Durrow Castle, near Tullamore, its history, 180
Durston (John), prebend of Bursalis, in Chichester
Cathedral, 276
Dutton (Mrs. Anne), her history and bible, 247
Dyer (George), his portrait and autobiography,
East Anglian characters and characteristics in
rime, 1785, 178, 246
East Hatley, co. Cambridge, monumental brass*
260
East India Company, directors, names of, ar
Charles Lamb's ' The Superannuated Man,' 2!
Edgell family related to Moore family of Eghai
284
Edward the Confessor's Crown, representation
a tapestry, 238, 327
Edward III., his oath of fealty for Guienne,
106
Edward VII., memorial bust at Bolton, 313
Edwards (Richard), correspondence of, 1669—7
33, 117
Egioke family of Egioke, co. Worcester, its fal
information wanted, 14
Elections of municipal officers, churches used fc
162
Elephant, its relation to name Oliphant, 238, 30
334
Elizabeth (Queen) and Sir Walter Raleigh at San<
gate, 98, 273
Elliston (Robert William), his epitaph, 63, 13£
place of education, 135, 193, 216, 250
Elmes family, whereabouts of MS. wanted, 320
Elsinore, Denmark, etymology of name, 8
Emerson (Ralph Waldo), elucidation of h
' English Traits,' 234, 275, 302, 327
English Army list of 1740, 270
English at Boulogne, records of births, marriagi
and deaths, 181
Epigram : "A little garden little Jowett made
its authorship, 288
Epictetus, translation of lines ascribed to, i
Johnson's 'Anthologia Graeca,' 10, 49
" Episcopus Recreensis," origin of title wante*
Epitaphs : —
American soldiers (War, 1914-18), 36
Aubrey (Rev. Thomas), 290
Badulla, Ceylon, 37, 78, 167
Berkshire, 182
Bibliography of, 68, 129, 161, 192, 218, 274!
Boulogne, Protestant cemetery, 181
Curious Christian (Rome), 314
Exeter Cathedral, 152, 241, 273
Shallcross (Philip), animal lover, 290
" Si quis forte rogat," 94
Slaves, 26, 81
Superphosphate, its introducer, 289
Sylke (William), c. 1485, 152, 241
Wilson (Mrs. Sophia), in Ceylon, 37
Error, an example of persistent, 315
Essex Hall, Walthamstow, its history, 286
" Est melius nun quam ....," interpretation <
reference wanted, 317
Etchings by T. Parker, 1838, 183, 241
Euler's prediction of the end of the world, referen<
wanted, 42
Exchange of souls in fiction, 124, 191, 246, 279, 30(
333
Executions of Cornish and Devonian priest!
1548-9, 96, 131, 183, 243, 332
" Eyewash," war slang, 19
Notes and Queries, Jan., 1920.
SUBJECT INDEX.
343
liable of countryman and field, 67
Factor, Blackwell Hall, explanation of term, 266,
' 306
4 Fair Mile,' prehistoric road, information wanted,
318
"Farewel Folly' and 'The Amorous Miser,' 310
Feast of the Assumption, called " Lady Day in
harvest," 236
' Feather-necks,' explanation of term wanted, 42
" Fed up," occurrence in Boer War, 79, 159
Fell (Dr.), schoolboys' rime about, 315
Fenner family, its history, 181, 274
Field-names in Hampshire, their meanings, 208,
328
Fielding (Henry), as a publicist, 283 ; Gibbon's
prophecy about ' Tom Jones,' 268, 303, 327 at-
Fielding (J. T.), J.P., statue at Bolton, 313
Fielding (Miss Sarah) at Yew -Cottage, Widcombe,
182
Finger-rings as merchant's emblems, 22
Finkle Street, meaning of name, 69, 109, 219
Firebrand fire-ship, its burning, 317
Fishyard, meaning of the term, 181, 216
Flag, Greek, its origin and history, 174
Flamsteed (John), letter of, 64
Flanders, changes in the shield of, 238, 323
Fleet Prison Records, whereabouts wanted, 266
Fleete (William) of Selsworthy, Wykehamist, 74
;Fletcher's reputed authorship of " Double False-
hood," 30, 60, 86
.Fletcher (John William), friend of the Wesleys,
particulars wanted, 293
Fletcher of Madeley's connexion with Bangor, in-
formation wanted, 320
Flowers on graves, origin of custom of planting,
15, 166
" Flummery," meaning of, 149, 192
JFoch (Ferdinand), French Marshal, his patronymic,
203
Tolk-lore :—
Boys born in May cruel, 25
Corpse visited by the soul, 205
Hair cut to prevent head- or stomach-ache,
138
:Hedgehogs, sucking milk, 105, 160,304 ; col-
lecting fruit, 304
!Magpie as bird of omen, 5, 116
.Missel-thrush and mistletoe, 98, 132, 165
.Mowing followed by rain, 41, 81, 106
Red hair, 194, 218
Footpaths, submerged, information wanted, 70
Ford (William Simpson), publisher, of Holywell
street, facts about, 125
Foresters, Ancient Order of, and Blue Eye, 22
Forgotten writers-.) 150, 189
JETorster family of Hanslope, Bucks, 51
iFoundlings entered in parish registers, 40, 71
Frankfort, Maison Rouge, hotel, information
wanted, 321
Fraser (James), Bishop of Manchester, bust at
Bolton, 313
Frazer's (Sir J. G.) view of indentures, 148
JFremland, Essex, its locality wanted, 295
French national emblem, the cock, 94, 131
French Revolution : " Why don't they eat
cake ? " 53, 162
Fuller, relation of Markshall with family of, 8,
78, 132
Fund for Preserving the Memorials of the Dead in
Ireland, 183, 218
Furniture, wooden pegs displaced by screws in,
date wanted, 236
Gaimar's ' Estoire des Engleis,' and the Anglo--
French " De Sanctis," 281
" Gamp " is an adjective, 338
Garden, Shakespearian anthologies of the, 153,
193, 306
Garnham family, information wanted, 67
Garrett (J. B. da S. L. de A.), Portuguese poet*
his ancestry, 182
" Gaspers," meaning of, 159
Gavelacre, origin of the place-name, 295, 322
George Street, Portman Square, London, its rate
and parish books, 209
Giants in England, list of their names, 267, 329
Gibbon (Edward), his prophecy about " Tom
Jones," 268, 303, 327
Gipping Church, inscriptions in, explained, 138
Gissing (George), his life depicted in the ' Life of
Henry Maitland,' 151, 269
Gladstone (Rt. Hon. W. E.) on Dante, 122 ;
described by B. Disraeli, 11
Glamorgan Volunteer Rangers, information
wanted, 67
Gloucester Cartulary, No. 316, a spurious charter,
261
Gloucester, charter of Henry I. (1127), 16, 72,
101
" Go to Exeter," important in murder trial, 14
Goldsmith (Oliver) and Panton Street Puppet
Show, 83
Goldsworthy as a place-name, 39, 79
Good Friday Pleasure Fairs, facts about, 124, 163
Gouramma, princess of Coorg, her strange history,
264, 296
Graf ton, Oxon., information wanted, 320
" Gram " in place-names, its meaning wanted, 266
Grant (Capt. B.), his history, 238, 298
Grant (Col. Colquhouri), particulars of, 54, 250
Grants in ' The Waterloo Roll Call,' 298
Grasmere Church, Wordsworth's references in
' The Excursion,' 234
Graves belonging to other families, interment in,
121
Graves, custom of planting flowers on, 15, 166
Gravestones, with portraits, 250, 306, 330
Gravy-pots called " Argyles," 154, 219, 248, 326
Greek national flag, its origin and history, 174
Greek Anthology, collections used at Westminster
and Eton, 75
Greek temperament discussed by Aristotle, 22
Greencoat School at Colchester, 332 ; at Leicester,
158
Greenwell (Thomas), editor, particulars wanted,
294
Griffiths (Ralph), founder of The Monthly Bevieic,
236, 279, 307
Griffiths (Richard), paladin in Carew tournament,
Grim or Grime in place-names, its etvmologv
95, 137, 160, 245, 328
344
SUBJECT INDEX.
Notes and Queries, Jan., I02C
Grooms, royal, information wanted, 294
Grundy (Mrs.), her history, 233
Gulliver and Lilliput, origin of the names, 156
Gunnersbury, etymology of the place-name
231
Gunpowder Plot, conspirators at Fremland
Essex, 295
Guy (Rev. Henry), Chaplain to King Charles II.
particulars of, 124
41 Gypos," war slang, its meaning, 79 ,
H
Haggatt (John), information wanted, 68
Hair cut to prevent head- or stomach - ache,
138
Hair, long, as an hereditary trait, 177, 247
Halley (Df. Edmond), relations with John Flam
Steed, 64
Hamilton (Henry), supposed husband of Margaret
Hamilton, information wanted, 289
Hamilton (Margaret), her identity and history,
289 327
Hamilton (Walter), F.R.G.S., information about
his writings wanted, 318
Hamilton (William) of Liscloony, particulars
wanted, 317
Hampshire church bells and their founders, 44,
109, 304
Hampshire field-names, list of, 208, 328
" Handwriting " as a surname, 93
Hard wick, crest of family of, 13, 100
Harrison (Dr. Thomas) of Bath, relatives enquired
for, 125
Harvard University, Thomas Shepard, a founder
of, 179
Harvey (Francis) of Natal, pamphlets by, 68
Haviland (General William), his history, 278
Hawkins (Dr. William), particulars wanted of his
marriage with Anne Walton, 319
Hawks, kind of fish-trap, 67
Haynes (Emma), evidence wanted of her marriage
with John Aldred Twining, 238
Haynes (Samuel) of Cornhill, evidence of marriage
wanted, 316
Hayward's ' Survey of Walden,' information
wanted, 94
Heart burial, by French in Palestine, 134
" Heater-shaped,' in heraldry, 22
Heath (Maud), memorial, at Bremhill, Wilts,
90
Heavitree, co. Devon, 1553-1653, record of
baptisms, 93
Hedgehogs sucking cow's milk, 105, 160, 304 ;
collecting fallen fruit, 304
" Hedsilver," in fifteenth century accounts,
313
" Hell for leather," origin of phrase, 25
Henchman, Hinchman or Hitchman family,
133
Henderson (George), travelling draper, memorial
to, 188
Hengler family, its history, 76
Henley-in-Arden, supposed seal of, 96
Henricus de Hassia : see Langenstein
Henricus de Hoyta : see Hoyta
Henry I., Gloucester Charter of, 16, 72, 101
Henslowe (P.), and Ben Jon son, 81
Hensman family of Northamptonshire, 133 j
Heraldry: —
Barr family arms, 153
Captor and his captive's arms, 26, 133
Cragg family arms, 130
Flanders, changes in its shield, 238, 323
Hard wick family crest, 13, 100
" Heater-shaped," 22
Hillman family arms, 67
Royal arms, suggested change in, 1
Sa., a lion rampant betwixt six fusils in pa
154
Sable, on a chevron argent, 80
Stags and eglantine in Elizabethan times, 1
99, 100
Suckling family (Norfolk) crest, 13, 99
Vair, crest, on a torse a bear's head coupe
293
Vassall family arms, 278
Woolmer House, coat of arms, 18u^
Heredity in long hair, 177, 247
Herod and St. Stephen, song and legend of, 315
Herodias and St. John the Baptist's head, 67
Herrick (Robert), his debt to Andrew Willett, :
Hervey and Hervet, use and etymology. of nanu
95, 167, 189, 246, 306
Heton (Martin), Bishop of Ely, informati<
wanted, 69
1 Hey, Diddle-Diddle,' nursery rhyme in Latin, 3(
Higham Hall, Waltbamstow, its history, 287
Hill (Joseph), friend of Cowper, 258
Hillman family, information wanted, 67
Hinchman, Henchman or Hitchman family, 13
' Hints to Freshmen in the University of Oxfon
author wanted, 290
Hitchman (Dr. John), memorial to, at Leamir
ton, 147
Hitchman, Henchman or Hinchman family, 13
Hodges (Charles Howard), engraver, informatii
about his signatures wanted, 321
Holinshed's ' Chronicles,' meaning of referen
wanted, 317
Holly, its connection with mirth, informati<
wanted, 319
Home, family of, Foulshotlaw, 10
Honywood family's relation to Markshall, 78*
Hooker (Richard), a bust of, its location, 152, 3(
Hoole (John), poet, his pedigree, 327
Hoorde (William), Winchester scholar, his histoi
179, 241
Hopkins (Stephen), priest, sixteenth centur
particulars wanted, 292
Hore, of Bath, artist, work by, 208
Horns, representations of devils blowing, 48, 18
Horse, white, of Kent, origin, 25
" Horseleperde," its meaning wanted, 320
Hotel Bristol in Calcutta, 26
Houghton Meeting at Newmarket, origin of nam
154, 260
Howard the philanthropist, portraits of, 222
Howard (Mr.), portrait by G. H. Harlow, 222
Hoyta (Henricus de), his ' Tractatus de Contra
tibus,' 265, 298
Hudson's Bay Company, its motto, 93, 132, 16
217, 250
Huett tomb, Millbrook, 206
Hugh (Aaron), innkeeper, 126
Hugo (Rev. Thomas), collector of Bewickiani
207, 248
Huntsman family, memorial at West Retford, £
Hyde (Edward), D.D., Royalist divine, his hi
tory, 69, 104, 105
l*ot«8 »nd Queries, Jan., 1920.
SUBJECT INDEX.
345
Ichwe, " Sons of Ichwe," meaning, 48 " Jf£ |
Icke family, origin of name, 24
Iconography of London Peace Celebrations, 175,
213, 315
Iconography of Temple Bar, 253
Ide (Wm.), of Tunbridge Wells, clock-maker,
153
"If I should die to-night," authorship debated,
318
Immortality, views of S. T. Coleridge, 39
Immurement, bibliography wanted of mediaeval,
320
Incumbents and patrons of Bredwardine and
Brobury, 200
Incumbents, indexes of, 153, 245
Indentures, Sir J. G. Frazer's view, and the origin
of, 148, 211
" Index Ecciesiasticus, 1550-1800 " of Joseph
Foster, 11
' In Flander's Fields,' .poema, particulars wanted,
317
Ingleby (Edward), his descendants wanted, 40
Inscriptions : on Berkshire itombstones, 182 ; on
Jenner statue at Boulogne, 288 ; on Louis
XVIII. monument at Calais, 288 ; in Maryle-
bone Burial Ground, .list wanted, 236 ; in St.
James's Church, Sydney, 174 ; in St. John the
Evangelist's, Waterloo Road, 63, 135, 193, 216 ;
on Edna Lyall's grave, wanted, 94 ; on tomb-
stone in Malvern Priory, 266, 305
:Intermentin other families' graves, 121
lona, etymology of place-name, 40
Ireland, an early Italian map of, 120
Ireland, inaugural meeting of Bibliographical
Society of, 111
Irish counties and towns, bibliography of histories
of, 147 H
•* Irrelagh ; or, The Last of the Chiefs,' Irish story,
authorship of, 69., 105, 139
JEsmenia, Christian name, its origin, 26
-Jackson (Rev. Jeremiah and Mrs.), memorial at
Wisbech, 146
Jenner (Edward), his statue at Boulogne, 288
Jenner family, its history, 149, 246
John, Bishop of Philippopolis, 107
Johnson (Alderman George John), memorial at
Brampton, Cumberland, 90
• Johnson {Samuel) confused with Ben Jonson,
38, 103 ; ' Anthologia Graeca,' epigram in, 10
Jonson (Ben) and P. Henslowe, 81 ; confused with
Dr. Samuel Johnson, 38, 103
Jowett (Joseph), authorship of the epigram on
him, 288
-* Juan Fernandez,' poem by Patrick Bramwell
Bronte, 177
Judges' Level, anecdote of, 7
Julius II., Pope, statement about him questioned,
266
'•"Jur de la vile," meaning of, 39
Keele (David) of Sarum, clockmaker, 153
Kellond surname, its origin, 154, 189, 220
Kent families of Kimberworth and Wadworth, 186
Kent family of Winchester and Reading, 62, 106,
183
Kettle (Tilly), artist, particulars of, 154, 189, 221
Kilmorey, Earls of, their ancestry, 176
" Kimono," early use of word, 80
King rescued by dogs, subject of picture, infor-
mation wanted, 317
' King's standing wood,' particulars wanted, 318
King's table cloth, old custom of laying, infor-
mation wanted, 318
Kinghorn of Fireburnmill near Coldstream, K
' Kington, History of,' name of author wanted, 42
Kleinschmidt ( J. J.), engraver, particulars wanted,
295
Knibb (Joseph), clockmaker, old clock by, 123,
241
Knight (Michael), of Brighthelmstone, clock-
maker, particulars wanted, 237
Knight's tour in chess, 92, 136, 325
Knocker of door in form of bat, explanation of,
149
Knox (Vicesimus), copies of his ' Spirit of Despot-
ism,' 176
Kyffin (Maurice), ' Blessedness of Brytaine, 1587
written by, 6
Labour is the father, and Land is the mother of
Capital," source of definition, 154
Labour-in-vain,' street-name in Shadwell, origin
of, 123, 193
La Cour (Dr. Poul) on windmill power in Den-
mark, 103
Lady Day in Harvest," a name for the Feast
of the Assumption, 236
Laing (William), memorial at Newcastle-on-Tyne,
145
Lamb (Charles), his East India Company em-
ployers, 287
Landsdowne-passage, behind Devonshire House,
site of a river bed, 288
Lang (John Dunmore), his statue in Sydney, 177
Langenstein (Henry de), his ' Tractatus de con-
tractibus,' 265, 298
Law case of eleventh century unfinished, parti-
culars wanted, 293
Lawson (Dorothy), wife of Alexander Collingwood,
information wanted about her parentage, 320
Leap Year : lady's offer of marriage, 24
Le Cateau, mentioned in 1577, 26
Lee (Nat), his ' Tragedy of Nero, Emperour of
Rome,' 254, 299, 323
Legh (Lady Margaret) of Lyme, Cheshire, 63
Legs, the indelicacy of piano and other, 261, 301
Le Hardy (F.) of London, miniaure painter, his
relatives, 207
Lewknor family, its history, 201
' Life of Henry Maitland,' novel by Morley Roberts,
key to, 161, 269
Light Invisible, The,' source of book-title wanted,
123
346
SUBJECT INDEX.
Notes and Queries, Jan., 1920.
" Mantle-maker's Twist," 75
MS. list of recruits to the Third Crusade, 236
Manuscripts, catalogues of mediaeval scientific,-
206 ; Norfolk (Frere catalogue), 182, 217
Map, earliest of New York, 204 ; early Italian, of."
Ireland, 120
Marazion, origin of the place-name, 292, 328
Markshall, relation with Fuller family, 8, 78, 132;.
with Honywood family, 78
Marlborough (first Duke of), lack of memorials to
91 ; St. Helena Life of, 70, 108
" Marlipins," origin of word, 123
Marriage entries in duplicate, 198: lists of, 262,.
305
Marriage service, Sir W. Scott's satire on Church.
of England, 208, 242, 278
Marshalls at Westminster School, 208
Martins at Westminster School, 236, 277
Marylebone Burial Ground, inscriptions in.'list
wanted, 236
__f t Master Gunner, the status of, 153, 212, 277
parish books of George Street, Portman Square, I Maule (Mr. Justice) on bigamy and divorce, 64r
209 ; Sir Walter Raleigh's connection with East 129 5 and the Judges' Level, 7
London, 15, 16, 51 Maules at Westminster School, 236, 323
location of | Maurices at Westminster School, 266
Maw family records, 10, 75
information I May, borns born then, cruel, 25
Mays at Westminster School, 123, 164, 194
Mazonomum,"
Lights, convex and conic, c. 1700, 125
Lillard (R. W.), ' America's Reply,' particulars
wanted, 317
Lilliput and Gulliver, origin of the names, 156
Little Britain, Little Montague Court in, 18
Little Montague Court, Little Britain, 118
Littleton (Edward), letter to Richard Edwards,
117
Lloyd (Helicon) of Merionethshire, information
• wanted, 68
Locke (Joseph), M.P., statue and memorial tomb
at Barnsley, 147
Log houses in British Isles, information wanted,
320
Lombe (Sir John), information wanted, 42
London : an early orphan asylum , 204 ; link with
Philadelphia, 148, 188 ; -Paris Airship, 1835,
58, 107 ; London peace celebrations, literature
and iconography, 175, 213, 315 ; Peace Pageant
on the Thames, 1919, 197 ; 1856 peace rejoic
ing, 234 ; its plane trees, 205, 272 ; rate and
Longfellow's ' Village Blacksmith,'
smithy, 211,248, 299
Longworth Castle, Herefordshire,
wanted, 320
" Lord, for Thy tender mercy's sake," anthem,
author wanted, 291.
" Lorribus," first occurrence of word, 205
Louis XVIII., his monument at Calais, 288
Louisa, Christian name, spelt Leweezer, 237, 276 ;
Lueazer, 276
Lowestoft street names, 122, 165, 194, 221
Lowndes at Westminster School, 208
Lowthers at Westminster School, 96
Ludlow, Lucien Bonaparte a prisoner there.
236, 300
Lumber Troop, club in Fetter Lane, 306
Lyall's (Edna) grave, inscription wanted, 94
Lytton (1st Lord), his alleged horoscope of
the Earl of Beaconsfield, 11
M
Macaroni, origin of its name, 159
McCrae's (Lt.-Col.) ' In Flanders' Fields,' particu-
lars wanted, 317
Macdonell (Col. Sir A. R.),his duel with Norman
Macleod, 9, 43, 76
Mackworths at Westminster School, 96
Macleod (Norman), his duel with Sir A. R
Macdonell, 9, 43, 76
Magazines, dealers in back numbers of, 40, 104
Magpies in augury in Shakespeare, 5, 116
Maidstone, Kent, aliens there in 1567, 169
Main (David M.), his works on the English sonnet,
hotel, Frankfort, information
236
Maison Rouge,
wanted, 321
" Malbrook s'en va-t-en -guerre," in an Ainsworth
novel, 25
Malvern Priory, tombstone inscription, 267
Man-of-war, information wanted about a minia-
ture, 319
Manor House of Higham Benstead, Walthamstow.
its history, 286
Manor records, whereabouts and particulars of,
182, 244
Latin word ' dish,' its gender,.
266, 300, 301
Mediaeval scientific MSS., 207
Medop, persons of the name, 138
Melkart's statue, particulars wanted of its re-
moval to Rome, 292
Memorials and statues in the British Isles, 89, 91..
145, 259, 312
Memorials of the Dead in Ireland, Fund for
Preserving the, 183
Memorials of the Dead, Society for Preserving the,.
183, 249
Merchant marks and ancient finger-rings, 22, 23
Mercury drawn by two cocks, in a print, 154,
Metal-bridge, Dublin, tolls levied at, 159
Metempsychosis in fiction,. 124, 191, 246, 279,.
306, 333
Mews or Mewys family, it» history, 163
Michell (Davy), priest, sixteenth century, parti-
culars wanted, 292
Middlesex Monuments,' Simco's, particulars-
wanted, 294
Middleton (Empson Edward), his will, and works,.
8
Miers (John), profilist, Mr. G. D. Lumb's paper
on, 162
Millbrook, Beds, Huett tomb at, 206
Million Bank, origin of name, 181, 222
' Mind, memory and understanding,' legal formula,
207
Mistletoe seeds and missel-thrush, 98, 132, 165
Mitchell (Claude), memorial at Rugby, 145
Mitchell of Launceston, clock-maker/information
wanted, 153
' Moat Island,' engraving, the origin of its subject,
Montague Court, Little, in Little Britain, 118
Monument of Louis XVIII. 's landing, at Calais,
288
Monuments, Simco's ' Middlesex Monuments,'
particulars wanted, 294
Monumental brasses at East Hatley, 260
Moore family of Milton Place, Egham, Surrey, it&
history, 264, 284
Notes and Queries, Jan., 1920.
SUBJECT INDEX.
347
Morbus Anglicus, identity of the disease, 180
Moresnet, alleged small republic, 205
Morgan (John), paladin in Carew tournament, 152
Morland (Benjamin), High Master of St. Paul's
School, 141
Morland family at Hackney and Bethnal Green,
141, 193
Morland Gallery, Fleet Street, 69, 132
Morris (Charles), of Portman Square, his history,
264, 330
Morrison (Arthur), alderman, memorial at Donny-
brook, 146
Mortars, date of three metal, 209, 250, 277
Mothering Sunday at Bewdley, 65
Motteux (Pierre Antoine), his ' Farewel Folly,'
310
Mottoes : —
Fortitudine (Barr family), 153
Oh for a book and a shady nook, 237, 277, 297
Pro pelle cutem, 93, 132, 164, 217, 250
' Tu vois 1'heure,' on a Savoy sundial, 233
Mowing and rain, connection between, 41, 81,
106
Municipal officers, elected in churches, 127, 162
Murch (John) of Honiton, clockmaker, informa-
tion wanted, 152
Murray (Lord Edward), died in Jamaica, 1734,
identity wanted, 293
Myrbach's illustrations of Daudet's ' Jack,' 150,
219
N
" Nablette," its meaning, 66, 108
Names, descriptive, derived from localities in Great
Britain, 290
Napoleon I., conversation with Lord John Russell,
12, 47, 82
Nasturtium plant, names given to it, 267, 302
Navy, British, an early reference, 6
Neal (Nathaniel), secretary of Million Bank, 181
Neate family, history, 13, 50
Nelson (Horatio, Viscount), his coxswain, John
Sykes, 257
Neologism, " lorribus," 205
Neologisms, French, " spidometre," 287 ; " tri-
bion," 287
Nepean (Henry) of Launceston, particulars wanted,
292
* Nero, Emperour of Rome, The Tragedy of,' and
' Piso's Conspiracy,' plays, 254, 299, 323
" Never prophesy unless you know," 315
Nevill (Canon E. R.) on origin of slang terms, 294
New College, Oxford, hereditary scholarship at,
48, 297
' New English Dictionary,' notes on changed
accentuations in, 32, 105, 137, 166
New Shakspere Society, list of its publications,
162
New York, earliest plan of, 204
Newcome family at Hackney and Bethnal Green,
141
" Newcomes, The " (Thackeray), key to characters
in, 14, 77
Newmans at Westminster School, 13
Newton (Gilbert Stuart), R.A., particulars of his
pictures wanted, 236, 277
Newtons at Westminster School, 41
' — ney,' in surnames, &c., information wanted,
290
Niccolo da Uzzano : see Uzzano
Nicholson (General John), his pedigree, 180, 330
Nicholson (Alderman William), bust at Bolton
313
Nicholson (William) of Dublin, information
wanted, 98
Nicholson family, 21, 130
Nicknames, carried by surnames, 195 ; regimental,
examples, 19
Nitre and vinegar, in Prov. xxv., 20, 205
" Non-naturals," early occurrence as substantive,
176
Norcross (John), English freebooter, information
wanted, 291
Norfolk manuscripts, (Frere), their purchaser,
182, 217,
North of England, definition wanted, 317
" Nos habitat, non tartara," its source, 119
' N. & Q.' offspring in other countries, 38
" Now then ! " earliest occurrence wanted, 295
Nuncupative wills, their validity, 265
Oath ofjjFealty oftEdwardlIIT. for Gtrienne, cere-
mony, 9, 106
Obituary: —
Page (John?Thomas), 112
Russell (Rt. Bon. George William Erskine).
r 84 j«&^.
Shedlock (John South), 28
Smith (Edward), 336
Welford (Richard), M.A., 224
Odessa in Roman times, 98, 137
Officers (Army) dead, 1727-60, list wanted, 293
" Old Lady of Threadneedle Street," origin of
nickname, 238, 302
Old RatclifEe, reflections on naval matters inspired
by, 171, 214
Oldfield (John) of Oldfield, died 1762, particulars
wanted, 235
Oldfield (Mrs.), described by Swift, 230
Oliphant, relation of the name to elephant, 238,
301, 334
" On a summer's day in sultry weather, rustic
rhyme, 26
Opium, Tennyson's views on, 36
Orlingbury family, particulars required, 14
Orphan asylum, an early London, 204
Owen, Samuel, uncle of August Strindberg, 3
Owens*(Susannah), information wanted, 68
Pace (Thomas), letter to Richard Edwards, 117
Page (John Thomas), his death noticed, 112
Pageant, Peace, on Thames,- 1919, 197
Paget (Sir Edward), portraits of, 126
Painting and Sculpture, Boutell's punning cata-
logue of, 173
Palliser (Capt.)> Canadian explorer, 123
" Pannag," Hebrew word, explanation wanted,
294
348
SUBJECT INDEX.
Notes and Queries, Jan., 1920.
Panton Street Puppet Show and Goldsmith, 83
Parish Registers, entries of foundlings in, 40, 71
Parish registers of Philleigh missing information
wanted, 292
Parishes, a 1705 return of English, 122
Parker (T.), etchings by, 1838, 183, 241
Parkinson family, information wanted, 97
Parry (Lieut.), referred to by Borrow, 96, 333
Peace : London celebrations, literature, &c., 175,
213, 315; Thames pageant, 1919, 197; 1856
rejoicing, 234
Peer (William), alleged actor of that name.
263, 331
Pegs of wood in furniture displaced by screws,
date wanted, 236
" Penniles Bench," meaning of, 126, 163, 194
Penrhyn Devil in form of a knocker, 10
Percy (J.), artist, information wanted, 150
" Perksilver " in fifteenth century, 313
" Peterloo," earliest use of word wanted, 291
Philadelphia, link with London, 168, 188
Phillips (Sir Richard), his tour through the United
Kingdom, 232
Philleigh, Cornwall, query about its missing parish
register, 292
Piano legs in trousers, 261, 301
Pidgeon (H. C.), supposed author of " Memorials
of Shrewsbury," 130
" Pipchinesque," use of word, 11
Pipes, source of some old tobacco, 210, 303
Pirkheimer (Wilibald), Diirer's joke about him,
4 Piso's Conspiracy,' and ' The Tragedy of Nero,'
254, 299, 323
Pitt (William) and Dundas, drinking at New Cross,
151, 195
Place (Francis), political economist, 233
Place-Names : —
Earth, 238, 279
Birth, 238, 279
Elsinore, 8
Gavelacre, 295, 332
Goldsworthy, 39, 79
" — gram," meaning of, 26C
Grim or Grime, 95, 137, 160, 245, 328
Gunnersbury, 231
Havering, 229
lona, 40
Marazion, 292, 328
Romeland, 294
Ruislip, 231
Seven Kings, 210, 249, 272
Plane trees in London, 205, 272
Pleasure Fairs on Good Friday, facts about,
Pope (Alexander), supposed ancestor of Whistler.
70
Pope, the crosier of the, 24
Popes, statements about two popes discussed,
Portraits on gravestones, 250, 306, 330
" Poultice wallahs," term for R.A.M.C., 79
Powell (David), priest, at Brussels, c. 1575, his
identity wanted, 295
Powell (George), dramatist, handwriting of, 11
Pragell family, origin of name, 42, 139
Pre-Raphaelite stained glass examples, 74, 105
Price (Cromwell), cornet, 1728, his historv.
292, 331
Price (John) of Deptford, watchmaker, 237, 305
Priests executed, Cornish and Devonian, 154i
96, 131, 183, 243, 332
Prize Compositions at School, origin of custoi
connected with, 70
Proclamation stones, their origin and significant
178, 221, 275
Proctor family of Dublin, 98
Prosser (Richard) of Birmingham, informatio
about his parentage wanted, 319
Proverbs and Phrases: —
Anglo-Saxon contagion, 38
As dead as a door-nail, 266, 303'
As jolly as sandboys, 180, 279
Cake : Why don't they eat cake ? 53, 162
Dans la politique .... prendre rien au tr<
gique, 69
rink
Drink by word of mouth, 98, 136, 330
Fire out, 121
Get the needle, 151, 194
Hell for leather, 25
Lambendo effingere, 69, 129
Let the weakest go to the wall, 177, 222
Lick into shape, 69, 129
" Man proposes, God disposes," 232
Never prophesy unless you know, 315
Now then ! 295
Old Lady of Threadneedle Street, 238, 302
Perversity of inanimate objects, 126
Pro pelle cutem, 93, 132
Querelle d'Allemand, 9
Rain cats and dogs, 108, 166, 326
Scum of democracy, 210
Sheer hulk, 65
Spanish main, 65
Wash an Aethiop, 193
When you die of old age I shall quake f(
fear, 235, 278, 325
4 Proving a negative,' Matthew Arnold on, 3
83
Parks (or Perks) family, information wantei
317
Parliamentary papers, preservation of, 41
Parry (Lieut.) mentioned in George Borrow, 95
Paschollen, lake near Thusis, its position, 1!
51
Paten, use and example of, 13, 50, 134
Patristic writings, translations wanted, 295
Patrons and incumbents of Bredwardine an
Brobury, 200
Peace celebrations in London, their literature an
iconography, 175, 213, 315
Peace pageant on the Thames, 1919, 197
Peace rejoicing, official, 234
Peat (Rev. Sir Robert), his history and identity
23
Peer (William), alleged to be an actor, 173, 263
Prudentius, " Psychomachia,' English translation
14, 75
Pseudonyms list of, identity of writers, 293, 328
Burton (Richard), 95 ; Robertson (John), 49
4 Psychomachia ' of Prudentius, translations o
14, 75
Puleston family of Gresford and Hants, 124
Punning catalogue of painting and sculpture mad
by Rev. Chas. Boutell, 173
Punt, land of, origin of the name, 149
Puppet Show in Panton Street, and Goldsmit]
83
Puritan hanging his cat, rime about, 232
Pyrgo Park, near Romford, Essex, 229
Notes and Queries, Jan., 1920.
SUBJECT INDEX.
349
Quarrymen's terms, in Herefordshire, 289
" Quentin Durward," points to be solved, 268,
306
" Querelle d'Allemand," meaning and origin of
phrase, 9
Quotations : —
[An]d dimpling eddies, 67
And the low plashing of the sea, 268
Blest be the man, 322
Confluxerunt omni parte Europse, 42, 83
Death, at the bedside standing, 15
Exemplo patrum commotus, 42, 83
Flocuerunt sancti in Hibernia, 42, 83
Grandmother's garden edged with box, 183
He was better than all my doubts and fears,
183
I am the way the past has trod, 239
I think of thee in the night, 127
I will laugh with you , 211
If of dull wits this stripling you suspect,
98, 139
If you were April's lady, 295, 334
In a small New England garden, 183
In Arizona caught, 322
In summer when the vales are clear, 322
Know'st thou not their language, 295
Many a man on the road of life, 70
" Nos habitat, non tartara, 119
Now Nature sleeps, 42
Now praise to the Lord Almighty, 183, 223
Nunquam minus solus, quam cum solus, 38
Oh, for a book, 237, 277, 297
Quinque sumus fratres, 26
Say not good-night, 322
The good we wish for often proves our bane,
26
The kiss of the sun for pardon, 268
They shall not pass, 239
What part of dread eternity, 322
When Milton lost his eyes, 322
Yes, I will leave the battlefield, 239
You who govern public affairs, 295
Rabelais's supposed parody of hymn ' Adeste
Fideles,' 292, 329
Rain and mowing, connection between, 41, 81, 106
Raleigh (Sir Walter) and Queen Elizabeth at
Sandgate, 96, 273 ; his East London origin, and
history of, 15, 51
'Rambles around Nottingham,' c. 1855, author's
name wanted, 139
Reade (Edward), letter to Richard Edwards, 118
Records of English births, marriages and deaths
at Boulogne, 181
Records, memorial, whereabouts and particulars,
182, 244
Records of Fleet Prison, whereabouts wanted, 266
Records, the Third Report of the Royal Com-
misson on Public, a note on, 314
Records, Warwickshire, society proposed to
publish them, 223
Rede-birds, their identification and name, 265, 329
Regiments, 3rd Foot Guards, 270
' Revenger's Tragedy,' 225
Reverie in Old Ratcliffe, 171, 214 ]
Richard I. in captivity, 21, 77
Richenda, woman's Christian name, its origin,
237, 324
Riddle of George Selwyn, 153, 188
Rime on Dr. Fell, its source, 315
Rime on East Anglian characters and character-
istics, 178, 246
Rimes describing cottage-brewed beers, 209
Ripon spurs, and other guarded spurs, 119
Roberts (Field-Marshal Earl), house where he
died, 125, 219
Roberts (Morley), key to his novel ' Life of Henry
Maitland,' 151, 269
Robertson, of Dublin, miniaturist, his identity,
208, 249, 250, 279
Robertson (John), poet, identified as John Robert
Seeley, 49
Robinson (Brooke) of Dudley, his family's history
by, 97, 130
Roger de Gloucester, 17, 73, 101, 170 ; in Domes-
day, 233
Romeland, St. Albans, origin of name wanted.
294
" Romer " months, meaning of the term, 150, 192
Rosalind's hair, its colour, 194, 208
" Rough " as house-name, 97, 164
" Rough-necks," explanation wanted of term, 42
Royal arms ; see Heraldry
Royal Assent, 95, 155, 214, 272
Royal grooms, particulars wanted, 294
Royal personages, statues and memorials to, 260
Ruislip, etymology of the place-name, 231
" Rumble," war slang, its meaning, 79
Russel (Amos) of Lincoln, c. 1729, information
wanted, 317
Russell (Charles) or Russel, Winchester scholar, his
history, 207
Russell (Rt. Hon. G. W. E.), his death noticed, 84 ;
letter on word " trounce," 131
Russell (Lord John), conversation with Napoleon
I., 12, 47, 48, 82
Russell family of Beaminster and Powerstock,
207
Rutter, origin ofAthe family name, 7, 54
Sa., a lion rampant betwixt six fusils in pale, 154
Sadler (Sir Samuel Alexander), memorial at
Middlesborough, 89
St. Alkelda, her history and name, 152, 190, 247
St. Bees College, Cumberland, alumni of, 11
St. Clement as patron saint of blacksmiths, 110
St. Cuthman, his history, 76, 77
St. Dunstan's-in-the-East parish charities, &c., 69
St. Henry the Englishman, bishop in Finland, 50 '
St. Hilda's, South Shields, gaps in list of its
vicars, 70
St. James, the Court of, first use of term in
diplomacy, 265, 324
St. John Baptist heads, 209, 238, 276
St. John the Baptist's head and Herodias, 67
St. John the Evangelist's, Waterloo Road, inscrip-
tions in church, 63, 135, 193, 216 |
4 St. Stephen and Herod,' ballad and legend, 31&j
St. Trunnion, identity of, 7, 53
350
SUBJECT INDEX.
Notes and Queries, Jan., 1920.
Saints and their burial-places, the Anglo-French
list of, 281
Saints, Association between pairs of, 209
Saintsbury (Prof. G.), allusion to Matthew Arnold,
38
Salisbury Cathedral Library, old dance tunes in,
85
Salute of four guns at officer's burial at sea,
38, 106
Salvers and patens, 13, 50, 134
Sampson family of Sussex, information wanted
181
Scholarship, hereditary, 118, 297
Schopenauer and " La clart6 est la bonne foi des
philosophes," 39
Scientific MSS., mediaeval, catalogue of, 206
" Score," name for narrow lane, 122, 165, 194, 279
Scot (Philip), author of ' Treatise of the Schism
of England,' 211
Scotchman's Post, origin of memorial so-called
123, 188
. Scotland's four royal rivers, particulars wanted
291
Scott (Sir Walter), " Quentin Durward," points
to be solved, 268, 306; satire on Church of
England marriage service, 208, 242, 278
Scottish chiefs, official recognition of, information
wanted, 9
Scottish University Graduates, lists of, 39
Screws displacing wooden pegs in furniture, 236
Scripps (James Edmund), newspaper man, his
history, 65
" Scrounge," war slang, its meaning, 18
Sculpture and painting, Boutell's punning cata-
logue of, 173
Seal, XVth century : Trinity with St. John the
Baptist and St. John the Evangelist, 96
Seal inscription in Tonga language, 64
' Second Maiden's Tragedy,' 225
Selkirk (Alexander), his connection with Defoe,
Selwyn (George), a riddle by, 153, 188
Seven Kings, origin of place-name, 210, 249, 272
Shakespear (Hon. John) of Jamaica, information
wanted, 124
Shakespear (John) of Ratcliff Highway, ' his
ancestors wanted, 151
Shakespeare (Wm.), augury in his plays, 5, 116 ;
and the garden, 153, 193, 306 ; Prayer-book
signatures, 207 ; reputed author of " Double
Falsehood," 30, 60, 86
Shakespearian^ : —
1 As you like it,' Act iii. sc. iv. 7-12, 194
4 Hamlet,' Act I. sc. iv., 36-8, 4, 115
' I Henry IV.', Act II., sc. i, 202 ; sc. iv., 202
' King Lear,' Act I., sc. ii, 202
' Macbeth,' Act I1} sc. iv., 203
Malvolio, the germ of, 115
' Measure for Measure,' Act. II., sc. ii., 202
' Romeo and Juliet,' Act. III., sc. ii., 203
' Tempest,' Act I., sc. ii., 202
' Tempest,' Act V., sc. i., Ariel's song, 203
Shallcross (Philip), animal-lover, his epitaph, 290
Sharpe (Lieut.-General) of Haddam Castle, infor-
mation wanted, 321
Shedlock (John South), his death noticed, 28
"Sheer hulk," 65
Sheffield, lines spoken by children at Christmas,
46, 82
Shepard (Thomas), a founder of Harvard Univer-
sity, his history, 179, 271
Shepherd (George), artist, relation to Thomas
Hosmer Shepherd, 295, 332
Shepherd (Thomas Hosmer), artist, relation to
George Shepherd, 295, 332
Sheridan (R. B.) founded Royal Antediluvian
Order of Buffaloes, 276 ; source of passage by,
on puffs, 37
" Sniffle-shuffle," early use of, 177
Shrapnel (Wm. Fisher), F. S.A., his history, 67,
132
Shropshire names, their derivation wanted, 266
Siddons (Mrs.) the actress, particulars of descen-
dants wanted, 318
Sign of the Cross, its use, 236
Simco (John), his ' Middlesex Monuments,' parti-
culars required, 294
Simplon Tunnel, translation of account of its
boring wanted, 237
Simpson (Robert), a royal farrier, 67
Slang : terms for bank-notes, 309
Slang terms, Spanish author on origin of, 294
Slang, " topping," " top-hole," 233
Slang (War) : " Bill Jim," 19, 194 ; " Boche," its
etymology, 182 ; " camouflage," 42, 79, 108,
136 ; " Chance one's arm," 195 ; «' Digger," 19,
194 ; " Dinkum," 7, 79, 194 ; " eyewash," 18 ;
" fed. up," 79, 159 ; " gaspers," 159 ; " gypos,"
79 ; list of examples, 19 ; " poultice wallahs,"
79 ; regimental nicknames, 19 ; " rumbled,"
79 ; " scrounge," 18 ; " sweating," 79 ; " yel-
low peril," 159
Slaves, epitaphs to, 26, 81
Smales at Westminster School, 321
Smith (Edward), his death noticed, 336
Smoking in England before the introduction of
tobacco, 82
Smyth (Sir George H.), Bt., M.P., bust at Col-
chester, 146
" Snob," its etymology, 182
Snow (Richard), buried at Pilton, information,
wanted, 125
Society* for Preserving the Memorials of the Dead,
183; 249
Sol as a woman's name in England, 21
Somerset incumbents, lists of, 153, 245
B and Ballads: —
' Bertram de Bourne,' 318
" Malbrook s'en va-t-en guerre,' version in
novel by Ainsworth, 25
' Oh, dear ! What can the matter be ? ' Latin
version of, 133
" On a summer's day, in sultry weather/' 26
" St. Stephen and Herod," 315
" The Poor Thresher " (Burns), 66, 108
' To-morrow shall be my dancing day,'
320
Songs sung by bird-scarers, 98? 132, 160, 246
Sonnet, English, David M. Main's work on, 236
Sorron, Bishop of, identity, 331
Soul's (released) attention to corpse, 205
Souls, exchange of, in fiction, 124, 191, 240, 279,
306, 334
Southey (R.), contributions to ' Critical Review,'
187
' Spanish Mam, The," 65
' Spidometre," French neologism, 287
•ipital as street-name, information wanted, 317
Spurriers' terms, 42
Notes and Queries, Jan., 1920.
SUBJECT INDEX.
351
'Spurs, Ripon and other guarded, 119
Stained glass-, books wanted on old, 70 ; pre-
Baphaelite, 74, 105
Standard, historical allusion in a poem, explana-
tion wanted, 238
Stanhopes at Westminster School, 152, 218
State coach, its cost and popularity, 288
" Stateroom " — Passenger's Cabin, 104
Statue in Fleet Street inscribed with lines from
Byron, 40, 82, 107
Statues and memorials in the British Isles, 89, 91,
145, 259, 312
'Statues in Sydney, New South Wales, 177
Staveley (Rev. Ambrose), supposed ancestor of
Whistler, 70
Stepney (George), envoy at Vienna, 37
Stepney as registration district for births at sea,
261
Stewart (Hon. Lieut. George) (1771-1821), his
identity, 12, 75, 159
Stocker families of Devonshire and Bedfordshire,
183
Stocker (George), Devonian priest, supposed to be
executed, 183
Stocks (Dr.), traveller, his history, 237, 333
Stockton (Richard) of Kiddington, his history,
94
•Stomach-ache, hair cut to prevent, 138
Stones used for ceremonial proclamation, 178,
221, 275
Stoyte family, particulars wanted, 152
Straw (Jack), his fate, 153, 217
" Straitsman," class of ship, name explained, 128
Street-names : Anguish, 122, 165, 194, 221 ;
Barroon, 317 ; Clapgun, 317 ; Finkle, 69, 109,
279 ; Labour-in-Vain, 123, 193 ; Spital, 317
Strindberg, August, an uncle of, 3
Stuart (Prince Charles Edward), poem on, 97
Stuart (Prince James Francis Edward), correct
legal title wanted, 321
Stuart, supposed husband of Margaret Hamilton,
information wanted, 290
' Struwwelpeter,' English translation of, 68
Submarine at Paris, c. 1848-50, reference wanted,
152
Submarine, Chinese idea of the, 131
Suckling family (Norfolk) crest, 13, 99
Sundial motto in Savoy, 233
'Superphosphate, epitaph commemorating its
introducer, 289
Surnames carrying nicknames, 195
.Surnames: —
Amphlett, 266, 325, 326
Cowap, 206, 247, 272
Crowther, 266, 325, 326
De Miners, 170
Devey, 266, 325, 326
Eykyn, 266, 325, 326
Foch, 203
Garrett, Portuguese poet, 182
Gittins, 266, 325
Handwriting, 93
Hoord, 241, 266, 325
Kellond, 154, 189, 220
" Ney " (terminal), 290
Nock, 266, 325
Oliphant, 238, 301, 334
Pragell, 42, 139
Rutter, 7, 54
.'Snodgrass, in Ireland, 65
Yeardye, 209
Surtees (R. S.), his history, 122/245, 305
' Survey of Walden,' by Hayward, 94
Swanne (Rev. Richard), evidence of his marriage
wanted, 316
" Sweating," war slang, its meaning, 79
Swift (Jonathan), his description of Mrs. Oldfield,
230; relations with Walpole, 262
Swin (the) channel of Thames, 95, 130 ; meaning
of term, 166
' Swiss Family Robinson,' information wanted
about first English edition, 320
Sydney, New South Wales, inscriptions in St.
James' Church, 174; monuments, 177
Sykes (John), Nelson's coxswain, 257
Sylke (William), LL.D., his epitaph at Exeter,
162, 241
Symmons (J.) of Paddington House," collector of
topographical prints, 265
" Tales about Old London," newspaper articles
entitled,1 123
" Tamasha." naval slang, its meaning, 178
Tanks (military), invention and history of, 36 ;
origin of name, 176
Tavern Signs : —
Bell (in combinations), 110
Bell and Shoulder, 109
Labour-in-Vain, 193
Rose of Denmark, 138
Shoulder (in combinations), 110
Three Cripples (' Oliver Twist '),'292, 334
Three Crutches, 292
Taylor (Sir Charles Wlliam), particulars of, 153,
190
Taylor (Harry) of Sending, details wanted, 319
Taylor (Jeremy), ' Holy Living,' persistent error
in, 315
" Tea Kitchens," meaning of term, 248
" Tea-pot, squeezing the," custom of, 75
Temple Bar, its iconography, 253
Tennyson (Lord A.), reference wanted to " [An]d
dimpling eddies," &c., autograph fragment, 67;
views on opium-eating 36
Thackeray (W. M.), identification of characters
in "The Newcomes," 14, 77
Thackwell, of Bristol, clockmaker, information
wanted, 153
Thames, scene of Peace Pageant, 1919, 197
Thames tunnels, bibliography of, 181, 297,
Theobald, reputed author of " Double Falsehood,"
30, 60, 86
Threadneedle Street, origin of its name, 302
' Three Black Crows,' authorship of, 123, 160
Thrush, missel and mistletoe seeds, 98, 132, 165
Thumb latch, information about its invention
wanted, 321
Thunder," peculiar meaning of word, 181
' Thwertnic " or " Thiertnie," old Cheshire cus-
tom, 93
Title of book on Tanagra figures wanted, 267
Toad-juice, use of, 70, 103, 166
Tobacco pipes, source of some old clay, 210, 303
Todd, (Anthony), secretary of the G.P.O., 104,
164, 326
Tolls at Metal-bridge, Dublin, abolished, 159
352
SUBJECT INDEX.
Notes and Queries, Jan., 1920*
" To-morrow shall be my dancing day," carol,
origin wanted, 320
' Tom Jones,' Gibbon's prophecy about, 268,
303, 327
Tombstone embedded in tree, Ceylon, 37, 78,
166
Tombstone inscriptions, in Malvern Priory, 267,
305 ; Berkshire, 182
Tonga inscription on seal, 64
" Top-hole," " Topping," derivation, 233
" Toponymies " in Great Britain and France,
290, 331
Tortoise, its indifference to hunger, 125
Tourneur (Cyril), " The Revenger's Tragedy,"
" The Second Maiden's Tragedy," 225
Tower of London : Yeomen of the Guard and
Tower Warders, 192
Tracks, submerged, information wanted, 70
Tradesmen's cards and bill-heads, particulars
wanted, 317
1 Tragedy of Nero,' 1675, by Nat Lee, 254, 299,
323
" Tribion," French neologism, 287
' Trilby,' novel by Du Maurier, key to, 151, 245
Trinity, Blessed, representations of, 215
Trinity Brotherhood, 197
Trinity College, Cambridge, hereditary scholar-
ship at, 297
" Trouncer," meaning of, 131
Trousers put round piano legs, 261, 301
Trumpets, devils blowing. See Horns
Tudgay, marine painter, information wanted, 68
Tunnels under Thames, bibliography of, 181, 297,
298 ; Simplon, book about, 237
Tupper (Martin), his alleged pension from the
Earl of Beaconsfield, 11
Turner (J.) painter, c. 1820, 69, 131
Turner (William) of Shrigley Park, co. Chester,
his family, 94, 249
Twining (John Aldred), evidence wanted of his
marriage with Emma Haynes, c. 1808, 238
Tyler (Wat), his fate, 153, 2*17
Tynte (Mary Waters, Lady), 76
" Up " and " down " often misused, 262
U
Uvedales at Trinity College, Cambridge, 297
Uvedale (Edmund), army officer, particulars
wanted, 316
Uzzano (Niccolo da), particulars of, 11
Valetta Regis and Valetta Corone Regis, infor-
mation wanted, 294
" Valhalla," peculiarity in its spelling, 237
Vassall family, 278
Vaughan (Lord [John]), and the Debany family,
268, 330
Vauvenargues, " La clarte est la bonne foi des
philosophes," attributed to, 39, 105, 135
" Verdy-brown," applied to coats or dresses,
meaning of, 166
Vespasian emperor, brass sestertius at Grimsby,
301
" Vestis Adriatica," 92
Veto of Sovereign exercised by Queen Anne 95*
155, 214, 272
Vickers family of Fulham, information wanted..
123
" Village Blacksmith " shop, where situated, 211,.
248, 299
Vinegar upon nitre, in Prov. xxv., 20, explained,,.
206
Vint (Henry), bust at Colchester, 146
Virgil on quarrels, translation of, 66
w
Waddingham family of Yorkshire, information
wanted, 97
Wainewright (Jeremiah) or Wainwright, where-
abouts of his will, 180
Wakefield (Thomas), Hebraist, information about,.
91
Walthamstow's manor house, its history, 286
Walton (Anne), particulars wanted of her mac
riage with Dr. William Hawkins, 319
Walton relic, history of a, 121
Wand, a gilt, history of, 97, 137
War (1914-18) : classical parallelisms, 57, 189
War, Prisoners of, 1758, and their letters, 6
Warnford (Richard), Winchester scholar, his his-
tory, 266, 324
Warwick (Earl of), the ' Kingmaker,' letter to
Lord Ferrers, 120
Warwickshire records, society proposed to publish
them, 223
Washington (George), his wealth, 94, 221
Washington (Henry), his identity wanted, 290
Watch- and clock-makers, 353, 237, 241, 306
" Water-pipes," Psalm xlii, 9, meaning, 60
Waters (Mary, Lady Tynte), 76
Wayte family, its history, 154
" We Four Fools," engraving so inscribed, infor-
mation wanted, 316
Weddell family, sailors, 171, 214
Welford (Richard), M.A., his death noticed, 224
West-country priests executed, 1548, 96, 131,.
183, 243, 332
Westgarth, inventor of hydraulic engine, 1765,-
273
Westminster Hall roof, superstition about, 121,.
157
Westcott (Philip), portrait painter, pictures by,.
246
Wheatley (James), cobbler and Methodist minister,
267
" When you die of old age I shall quake for fear,'*
235, 278, 325
Whistler's family connection with Alexander
Pope, 70 ; with Rev. Ambrose Staveley, 70 ;
with Samuel Cooper, the artist, 70
White (Gilbert), portrait said to be of him, 264,.
333
White horse, cut in landscape in Kent, its origin,
25
" Wildering " and " Wilding," use and connection,
of, 98
Willett (Andrew), Herrick's debt to, 37
William, Bishop of Dromore, 1491, his Identity,
161, 273
William, said to be Bishop of Pharos (Lesina), 10T
Williams (John), author of * Stillingfleet against
Dr. Stillingfleet," 207
Williams (Miss Helen Maria), her history, ISO,
244
Notes and Queried, Jan., 1920.
SUBJECT INDEX.
353
Williamson (Col. and the Hon. Mrs.) memorial at
Comrie, Perth, 145
Wills, nuncupative, their validity, 265
Wills, parcel of old Bristol, c. 1500, missing, 122
Wills (William Henry) on Dr. Dodd, the forger,
Wilson family of Ederiderry, Ireland, information
wanted, 293
Wilson family of Westmorland and Cumberland,
pedigree wanted, 293
'Wilson (John), bo
bookseller, his book catalogue,
237, 277, 297
Wilson (Joseph), born 1707, information wanted,
321
Wilson (Richard), B.A., list of his pupils wanted,
237
Wilson (President Woodrow), his ancestors. 51,
306
Winchester, an American link with, 206
Winter (John), dial-maker, c. 1724, 124
Wire (David), Alderman and Lord Mayor of
London, bust at Colchester, 146
Wodecocke (Lawrence), information wanted, 318
Woodcocks, supposed testamentary provision for
their breeding, 319
Woolmer House, Bramshott, heraldic device on
window, 180
Wordsworth (William), his references to Grasmere
Church in ' The Excursion,' 234
Wrens, Irish custom of hunting, 315
Wright (Andrew B.), local historian and actor,
14, 78, 109
Wright family of South Elmsall, its history, 159
Writers, forgotten British, American, Swedish and
German, 150, 189
Wyborne family of Elmstone, Kent, 49, 81
Xit," his identity wanted, 295
Yeardye family of Huntingdon, its history, 209
Yeoman of the Guard, and Tower Warders, 192
Yeoman of the Mouth, his duties, 239, 322
" Yellow peril," slang, meaning of, 159
Young (Richard), alderman, memorial at Wisbech,
146
Notes and Queries, Jan., 1920..
Notes and Queries, Jan. , 1920,
AUTHORS' INDEX,
Notes and Queries, Jan., 1920.
A U T H O R S' INDEX.
-.A. (G. E. P.) on Sheridan on puffs, 37
Abrahams (Aleck) on sale of Bedford House, 1800,
148. Byronic statue in Fleet Street, 107.
Dickens's topographical slips, 136, 222. Early
London Orphan Asylum, 204. Ford (William
Simpson), of Holywell Street, 125. Literature
and Iconography of London Peace Celebrations,
175, 213, 315. Little Montague Court, Little
Britain, 118. London-Paris Airship, 1835, 58.
Morland Gallery, 69. Parker (T.) etchings, 183.
Phillips (Sir Richard), 232. Simco's ' Middlesex
Monuments,' 294. State Coach, 288. Symmons
(J.), print collector, 265. Temple Bar, its icono-
graphy, 253. Thames tunnels bibliography, 181
Ackermann (A. S. E.) on bats entangled in hair,
210. Definition of an ambassador, 210. Folk-lore,
red hair, 194. Hedgehogs sucking cow's milk,
160. Popular fallacies, 210. Wild birds poison-
ing captive birds, 210. " Yellow peril " and
" Gaspers," 159
Adams (James Goldsworthy) on Goldsworthy as a
place-name, 39
Aegeria on nuncupative wills, 265
Aitken (A. J. C.) on " rumble " and " sweating,"
79
Alford (Canon J. G.) on old Bristol wills, 122
Andrews (J. T.) on Byron's ' Don Juan,' cantos
17 and 18, 179
Anscombe (Alfred) on origin of name Rutter, 7
Anstey (Miss L. M-) a reverie in Old Ratcliffe, 214
Arbuthnot (Mrs A. J.) on Coorg state princess, 296
Stuart (Prince James Francis Edward), his title,
321
Ardagh (J.) on Alexander, merchant in Athlone,
292. " As dead as a door-nail," 266. Biblio-
graphy of epitaphs, 274. Bibliography of Irish
county and town histories, 147. Defoe's
knowledge of Alexander Selkirk, 177. Dickens's
topographical slips, 250. Hengler family, 76.
Ardagh (J.) on
Hooker's (Richard) bust, 152. Labour-in-Vain,
street-name, 123. Plane trees in London, 205,
Lumber Troop, Fetter Lane, 306. Lyall's (Edna,
grave, 94. St. Clement as patron saint, 110)
Snodgrass surname, 65. Statues and memorials
in the British Isles, 259. " Tales about Old
London," 123. Three Cripples tavern in * Oliver
Twist,' 292. Tolls at Metal-bridge, Dublin, 159.
Tombstone in tree at Badulla, 37
Armitage (F.) on author of anthem wanted, 291
Armstrong (T. Percy) on " Man proposes, God
disposes," 232. Mercury drawn by two cocks,
164. St. Alkelda, 191. St. John Baptist heads,
276. " Scum of democracy," 210
Artemisia on exchange of souls in fiction, 124
Austin (Roland) on author of quotations wanted,
295. Main (David M.) and the English sonnet,
236
Aver (W.) on Anguish Street and " Scores," 194
B
B. 6n Blackstone the regicide, 291. John Bell of
Scarborough, 291. Simplon Tunnel, 237. The
Knight's Tour in Chess, 92
B. (C. C.) on bibliography of epitaphs, 130. Changes
in accentuation in " New English Dictionary,"
137. Crow- fig (nux vomica), 14. Maw family,
75. Rain and mowing, 81. Toad-juice, 103
B. (E. F.) on Col. Colquhoun Grant* 54
B. (E. S.) on " pannag," its meaning, 294
B. (G. F. R.) on Alleynes or Aliens, 291. Blake
(Robert), 81. Desaguliers (Rev. John Theo-
philus). 318. Heton (Martin), Bishop of Ely, 69.
Hyde (Edward), D.D., Royalist divine, 69.
Lowndes, 208. Lowthers, 96. Mackworths, 96.
Marshalls, 208. Martins, 236. Maules, 236.
Maurices, 266. Mays, 123. Neate family, 13.
Newmans, 13. Newtons, 41. Smales, 321.
Stanhopes, 152. Wyborne family, 81
Notes and Queries, Jan., 1920.
AUTHORS' INDEX.
357
B. (H. C.) on Col. Barnard, 1778, 238
B. (H. W.) on Kleinschmidt (J. J.), 295. " Now
then ! " . 295 Wilson (Major), 321
B. (J. P.) on Richard Baxter's family, 66
B. (B.) on Duncombe's (Sir Sanders) powder, 14.
" Romer " months, 150
B. (R. S.) on Bluecoat School at Warrington, 159.
" Heater-shaped," 22. Meaning of " Penniles
Bench," 126
B. (T. K. E.) on custom connected with school
prize compositions, 70
B — d on Thomas Greenwell, 294
B — n (A.) on Cheveley and Tudgay, painters,
68
Baddeley (St. Clair) on De Miners family, 16,
170. Henry I.'s Gloucester Charter, 16, 74, 101.
Roger de Gloucester, 17. Shrapnel ( Win. Fisher),
F.S.A., 67
Baker (H. R. Popham), M.R.C.S., L.R.C.P., on
Barr family arms, 153. Bartlett (Rev. William),
125. Earls of Kilmorey and theBagnal family,
176, Harrison (Dr. Thomas) of Bath, 125
Baldock (Major G. Yarrow), on Rev. Thomas
Hugo, 248
Balfe (M.) on rede-birds, 329
Barnard (Geo. W. G.) on Society for Preserving
the Memorials of the Dead, 249
Barnard (H. C.) on Barnard or Bernard family,
68, 182. Haggatt (John), 68. Taylor (Harry) of
Lending, 319
Barns (Stephen J.) on epitaph to slave in Essex,
26. Foundling entries in Parish Registers, 71
Barrule on Mind, memory and understanding,
formula, 207
Barry (L. C.) on Cantrell family, 291
Bayley (A. R.) on the French national emblem,
131. King rescued by dogs, 317. Odessa in
Roman times, 137
Beard (Charles) on Edward III.'s oath of fealty
for Guienne, 9. Ripon spurs, 119. Spurriers'
terms, 42
Beddows (H. T.) on foundling entries in parish
registers, 72
Bell (Alexander) on the Anglo-French " de
Sanctis," 281
Bennitt (Mrs. S.) on Brooke Robinson of Dudley,
97
Bensly (Prof. Edward) on Aristotle on the Greek
Temperament, 22. Authors of quotations
wanted, 26, 83, 139. Bird-scaring songs, 132.
l Browne (Sir Thomas) confused with Thomas
Brown (1663-1704), 6. Byron's bust at Oxford,
163. " Drink by word of mouth," 330. Emer-
son's ' English Traits,' 302. Epictetus in
* Anthologia Grseca ' of Johnson, 49. An Exeter
cathedral epitaph, 241, 273. " Gamp " as adjec-
tive, 333. Gender of ' dish ' hi Latin, 300.
, Gibbon's prophecy about ' Tom Jones,' 303.
Griffiths (Ralph), 307. Henry de Langenstein
! and Henry de Hoyta, 298. Inscriptions in St.
; John the Evangelist's, Waterloo Road, 135.
! Johnson (Samuel) and Ben Jonson, 103. " Lam-
bendo effingere," "Lick into shape," 129. The
longest ^bowshot, 278. " Nablette " and
" Bontefeu," 108. Missel thrush and mistletoe
seeds, 165. " Nos habitat, non tartara." source of ,
119. The Pope's crosier, 24. Prudentius's
' Psychomachia,' 75. Sol as a woman's name in
England, 21. " Three Black Crows," its author-
ship, 160. " Tragedy of Nero " and ' Piso's Con-
spiracy.' 323. " Vestis Adriatica,' 92. West-
minster Hall roof, 157. " When you die of old
age, &c." 325.
Benson (W. K.) on the Homes of Foulshotlaw and
Janet Dickson, 10. Kinghorn of Fireburnmill,
near Coldstream, 10
Bere (Charles) on " Hell for leather," 5
Bernau (Chas. A.) on Norfolk manuscripts sold,
182
Berry (Oscar), F.C.A., C.C., on John Wilson,
bookseller, 277
Bland (F. M.) on Campbell's (Sir Gilbert) poems,
238. Richenda, Christian name, 237
Bloom (J. Harvey) on bird-scaring songs, 160.
Brewing rimes, 209. Grim or Grime, place-
name, 137. Heavitree, co. Devon, 1553-1653,
93. A letter of Warwick the Kingmaker, 120.
Mothering Sunday at Bewdley, 65. Orling-
bury family, 14. Portraits on gravestones, 306. -
Quarrymen's terms, 289. Shield of Flanders,
323. Trousered piano legs, 301. "When you die
of old age, &c.", 325
Bottom (R. H. B.) on Arnold's (W. H.) identity,
166. " Pro pelle cutem," 164
Bowes (Arthur) on merchant marks, 23
Bracey (F.R.) on an error in Bosweirs, ' Johnson,*
176
Brabrook (E.) on Shakespeare and the garden, .
306
Bradbury (F.) on " Argyles " or gravy pots, 219,
248. Crest on church plate, 50. Paten used aa
salver, 50
Bradstow, enquiry about Niccolo da Uzzano, 11
Brandreth (Henry Samuel) on French political '
saying, 69
Bridge (Dr. Joseph C.) on Considine's (Capt. Wm.),
memorial at Chester, 261. Cowap surname,
272
Broadwood (Lucy E.) on the song " The Poor
Thresher," 108
Brown (John W.) on foundling entries hi parish
registers, 72. The knight's tour in chess, 136,
325
Brown (William) on David, " Episcopus Re-
creensis," 238
Bulloch (J. M.) on Dillon, (Chevalier Peter), 206.
Epitaph to the introducer of superphosphates, ..
289. First American soldiers to fall in war
(1914-18), 36. " Handwriting " as surname, 93.
Pseudonyms, 329. Scripps (James Edmund), -
65
Burnham (M.) on title of book wanted, 267
C. (C. A. ) on Sir Charles William Taylor, Bt.,
153
C. (E. G.) on a Byronic statue in Fleet Street, 82.
" Why don't they eat cake ? " 53
C. (H.) " Crest," a measure, 69. Fleete (William)
of Selworthy, 74. " Hedsilver," " Drofsilver,"
" Drofcourt " and " Perksilver," 313. Hoorde
(William), 241. Warnford (Richard), 324
C. (W. A. B.) on David, " Episcopus Recreensis,'
326. " Deacon in love," 219. Fifteenth century
bishops, 273. Hooker's (Richard) bust, 306.
Jenner family, 245. Lakes Pascholler and Ca-
lendari, 61. Richard I.'s captivity, 77. West-
country priests executed in 1548, 131
C— n (H.) on " Boche " and "Snob," 182. Mal-
vern Priory tombstone inscription, 267
Canavan (M. J.) on Thomas Shepard, 271
358
AUTHORS' INDEX.
Notes and Queries, Jan., 1920.
Oantwell (E. J.) on Cantwell family in Ireland, 68
Chambers (L. H.) on bibliography of epitaphs, 129,
192. Hampshire church bells, 304. Legh (Lady
Margaret), 53
Oheetham (F. H.) on Tenner statue at Boulogne,
288. Louis XVIII. monument at Calais, 288
Ghew (Prof. Samuel C.) on Byron Apocrypha,
113, 143. Byron in fiction, 80
Ohope (R. Pearse) on Aragonise, a knight so-called,
26. Captor and his captive's arms, 26. Found-
ling entries in parish registers, 72. Goldsworthy
place-name, 79. Rain and mowing, 81
Ohurchill (William) on Tonga seal inscription,
64
Chute (W. M.) on back-magazine dealers, 104
Clarke (Cecil) on " camouflage," 79. " TrOuncer,"
131
Clarke (G. H.) on Fleet Street statue, 40
Clay (Charles) on Sir Thomas Colby's family,
180
Clinton (W. Willis) on " Xit " 's identity, 295
Clippingdale (S. D.)» M.D., on Cockle (James) of
Cockle's Pills, 190
Cocks (Oswald) on ' Hamlet,' Act I., sc. iv.,
36-8, 115
Collins (E.) on translation of La Cour on windmill
power, 103
Compston (Rev. H. F. B.) Bredwardine and Bro-
bury incumbents, 200. Aubrey (Rev. Thomas),
290
Cook (C. A.) on holly and mirth, 319
Cope (Mrs. E. E.) on Aldersons, glass-makers, 152.
Berkshire tombstone inscriptions, 182. Cope
(William), 294. Hampshire field-names, 328.
Hore, artist, 208. " The Moat Island," 278.
Morland family, 193. Nicholson (General John),
180. Oldfield (John), died 1762, 235. Puleston
family of Gresford and Hants, 124. Robertson,
miniaturist, 279
• Cornford (Miss M. E.) on Earth and Birth place-
names, 271. Dyer's (George) portrait, 275.
Gavelacre as place-name, 332. " Get the needle,"
194
Crafts (William Francis) on Thames tunnels, 297.
' The Village Blacksmith,' 299
Crawford (O. G. S.) on " Horseleperde," 320
Creswell (P. T.) on author of quotation wanted,
322
Cross-Crosslet on Tynte (Mary Waters, Lady), 76
Crosse (A. T.) on Capt. B. Grant, 238
Crosse'( Gordon) on William Peer, said to be an
actor, 263
Cunningham (R. A.) on Mr. Justice Maule on
bigamy and divorce, 129
Curator of Walden Museum on Hay ward's
' Survey of Walden,' 94
Currier (T. Franklin) on Knox's ' Spirit of Despot-
ism,' 176
.Cyril on anecdote of Judges' level, 7
D. (C. V.) on author of quotation wanted
127. ' Three Black Crows,' 123
D. (H.) on Richard Snow, 125
D. (H. R.) on ' Hamlet,' Act I., sc. iv., 36-8, 5
B. (J. L.) on Daggle Mop, 293
.D. (T. F.) on Dessin's Hotel, Calais, 21
Davey (H.) Shakespeare emendations, 202
Davies (Charles Llewelyn) on " John Robertson,'*
pseudonym, 49. Napoleon and Lord John
Russell, 82
Davis (Henry T.) on old tobacco pipes, 210
Daymond (Miss Emily) on author of quotation
wanted 322
de Castro (J. Paul) on Fielding (Henry) as a
publicist, 284. Griffith (Ralph), 279. Swift and
Walpole, 262. Swift's description of Mrs. Old-
field, 230
del Court (W.) on Amos Russel of Lincoln, 317
Denman (Arthur), F.S.A., on Tilly Kettle,
221
Denman (Edward) on ' The Village Blacksmith,'
299
Denton (George) on Jack Straw and Wat Tyler,
217
Dobson (Austin) on John Wilson's motto, 297
Dodds (M. H.) on St. Alkelda, 191
Dodson (Wm. M.) on authors of quotations wanted,
183. Books on old stained glass, 70
Doran (Alban) on ' Marlipins,' 123
Doyle (C. F.) on Penrhyn Devil as a knocker,
10.
Drury (Charles) on Hoole (John), poet, 327.
Stewart (Hon. Lieut. George), 12
Duff (L.) on Gibbon's prophecy about * Tom
Jones,' 327
Dunlop (G. A.) on "Fish -yard," its meaning,
181
Eagle (R. L.) on the germ of Malvolis, 115
Eden (F. Sydney) on Charles Cooke, bookseller,
210
Edwards (Frederick A.) on the land of Punt,
149
Edwards (Howard) on a portrait of * Mr. Howard,'
222
Eldridge ( J. M.) on Blackwell Hall Factor, 266
Elias (W. P.) on Good Friday Pleasure Fairs,
124
Ellis (H. D.) on Latin version of " Oh, dear ! What
can the matter be ? " 133
Emeritus on a strange tale of a Coorg princess,
264
Elmes (E. H.) on Elmes family, 320
Esposito (M.) on an early Italian map of Ireland,
120
F. (E. W. H.) on missing Philleigh parish register,
292. Nepean (Henry) of Launceston, 292
F. (I.) on Lieut.-General Sharpe, 321
F. (J.) on Church briefs, 294
F. (J. S.) on " Jur de la vile " and borough
courts, 39
F. (J. T.) on astertion flowers, 302. Christmas
verses at Sheffield, 82. ' Deacon in love,' 159.
" Finkle," street name, 69. « Fish-yard,' its
meaning, 216. Grim or Grime, place-name, 137.
A persistent error, 315. " Pro pelle cutem,"
132. " Rain cats and dogs," 108. St. Trun-
nion's identity, 7. Vinegar on nitre, 205
Notes and Queries, Jan., 1920.
AUTHORS' INDEX.
359
F. (J. W.) on American Church of England
Bishops, 264. Beaconsfield (Earl of) on Glad-
stone, 11. Blake (Robert) at Westminster
School, 41. Dawson (Bishop) of Clonfert, 188.
Fifteenth century bishops, 161. Foster's
(Joseph) " Index Ecclesiasticus," 11. Fund for
Preserving the Memorials of the Dead in Ireland,
183. Guy (Rev. Henry), Chaplain to King
Charles II., 124. Gravestone portraits, 250.
Registers and epitaphs of English at Boulogne,
181. St. Alkelda, 152. St. Bees' College alumni,
11. Society for Preserving the Memorials of the
Dead, 183. Winter (John), dial-maker, 124
Fairbrother (Miss E. H.) on the letters of prisoners
of war, 1758, 6. Sykes (John), Nelson's coxs-
wain, 257
Fauteux (A.) on Margaret Hamilton's history,
289
Fawcett ( J. W.) Australian memorial inscriptions :
IV., St. James's Church, Sydney, 174. Biblio-
graphy of epitaphs, 68. Bishop of Sorron, 331.
Christmas verses at Sheffield,1 110. Cragg family,
130. Craggs and Nicholson families, 21, 130.
" Daverdy," 166. Dtfuble Christian names, 289.
An eighteenth century animal-lover's epitaph,
290. Finkle Street, 279. Grim or Grime in place-
names, 245, 328. Kent family, 186. Medop,
persons of that name, 138. Mews or Mewys
family, 163. Morbus Anglicus, 180. North of
England, 317. Rain and mowing, 106. Scottish
University Graduates, lists, 39. " Si quis forte
rogat," 94. Somerset incumbents, 153. Stewart,
(Hon. Lieut. George), 159. " Straitsman " class
of ship, 128. Sydney monuments, 177. Tobacco
pipes, 303. Todd (Anthony), 104, 326. West-
garth, inventor, 273. Wright (A. B.), local
historian and actor, 109
Fay (C. R.), M.A., on ' Cobden : a Bagman,' 291.
" Peterloo," 291
Fenwick (G.) on R. S. Surtees, 122
Field house (W. J.) on supposed seal of Henley-in-
Arden, 96
Finlay (E. C.) on Durrow Castle, 180. Nicholson
(Wm.) of Dublin, 98. Proctor family of Dublin,
98. Stoyte family, 152
Firebrace (Capt. C. W.), on Emerson's * English
Traits,' 275. Peat (Rev. Sir Robert), 23
Fiske (Samuel) on Stags and eglantyne ; Eliza-
bethan Court story, 99
Fletcher (Rev. Jas. M. J.) on bluecoat school at
Wolverhampton, 158. Good Friday Pleasure
Fairs, 163
Fletcher (Rev. R.) on Emerson's ' English Traits,'
234
Fletcher (Rev. W. G. D.), F.S.A., on Aldelima,
its locality, 96. Baxter (Richard), 130. Bluecoat
school at Bromsgrove, 218. Origin of a gilt
wand, 137. Robinson (Brooke ) of Dudley,
130
Flint (Thomas) on Carlyle on the constellations,
150
Forman (W. Courthope) on Dickens's topogra-
phical slips, 187. Hawkins's (Wm.) marriage
to Anne Walton, 319
Franck (Charles E.) on a miniature man-of-war,
319
Free (Rev. Richard) on Birth and Barth place-
names, 238. Fleet Prison records, 266
Freeman (J. J.) on " bully " in Coleridge, 69.
" Cellarius," a dance, 319. " Daverdy " and
" pipchinesque," 11
Fuller (J. F.), F.S.A., on Markshall and the Fuller
family, 8, 132
Fynmore (A. H. W.) on Boulogne : registers and
epitaphs, 223 !l'
Fynmore (Col. R. J.) on bluecoat school at Read-
ing, 159. Burrell (William), centenarian, 12.
. Fenner family, 181. Jenner family, 149. Master
Gunner, 277. Medop or Medhop, persons of the
name, 138. " Penniles Bench," 163. Pragell
family, 42. Raleigh (Sir W.) and Queen Eliza-
beth, 96. St. Trunnion's identity, 54. Shrapnel
(William Fisher), F.S.A., 132. A Walton relic,
121
G
G. on " astertion " flowers, 267
G. (C.) on East Anglian characters, 246. " Gypos '*
and " poultice wallah," 79
G. (D. L.) on Heraldic : Captor and his Captive's
arms, 133
G. (E. W.), R.A.F., on " Dinkum," 79
Galbraith (Miss Gwen) on author of quotation
wanted, 239
Garlick (E. A.) on original ' Village Blacksmith *
shop, 211
Giles (Haydn T.) on bibliography of epitaphs, 274.
Vicars of St. Hilda's, South Shields, 70
Gladstone (Hugh S.) on the breeding of wood-
cocks, 319. Gladstone (W. E.) on Dante, 122.
The longest bowshot, 220
Glassby (W.) on Wayte family, 154
Glenny (W. W.) on " Drink by word of mouth,"
136. Seven Kings, place-name, 272. "When
you die of old age I shall quake for fear," 235
Gray (H. St. George) on Somerset incumbents,
245
Gray (W. M.) on William Anderson, artist, 209
Grime (R.) on metempsychosis in fiction, 334.
Portraits on gravestones, 330
Groth (Christian E. P.), M.A. (Camb.) on " Rain
cats and dogs," 326. Royal Antediluvian Order
of Buffaloes, 276
Grundy (G. B.) on Hampshire field-names, 208
Guiney (Miss L. I.) on lines under a crucifix, 19,
135. Poem to Prince Charles Edward Stuart,
97
Gurney (J. H.) on " Bayninge " and " Blankett,"
§e 125. ' Hawks ' to catch salmon, 67
H
H. (A. C.) on Whistler's connection with Rev.
Ambrose Staveley, Samuel Cooper and Alexan-
der Pope 70
H. (C. W. B.) on handwriting of Charles Powell
the dramatist, 11
H. ( J.) on two war poems, 317
H. (J. J.) on Edward Hyde, D.D., 104
H. (J- R.) on Anguish Street, 122. Authorship of
' Singeing the King of Spain's beard,' 51. Back-
magazine dealers, 104. Boyer family, 294.
" Camouflage," 108. Emerson's ' English
Traits,' 327. " Get the needle," 151. History
of military tanks, 36. " Perversity of inanimate
objects," 126. Pre-Raphaelite stained glass, 74.-
" Rough " as house-name, 97. " Tamasha,"
178. " Top-hole," " topping," 233. War slang,-
79
360
AUTHORS' INDEX.
Notes and Queries, Jan., 1920.
.H. (B.) on Mrs. Anne Button's history and bible,
247
H. (R. G.) on Euler's prediction of the end of the
world, 42
H. (B. M.) on Sir A. B. Macdonell's duel with'
Norman Macleod, 9
U. (S. H. A.) on Cramartie (Hector Theophilus),
327. Names Hervey and Hervit, 95, 189,
306
H. (W.) on author of quotation wanted, 322
H. (W. B.) on " As jolly as sandboys," 279.
Author of quotations wanted, 70. Author of
" Bambles around Nottingham," 139. Author-
ship of Jowett epigram, 288. Beaconsfield
(Earl of) : birthplace, 204 ; his horoscope,
11 ; pension to Tupper, 11. Bibliography of
epitaphs, 162, 192, 274. Blue eye of Ancient
Order of Foresters, 22. Bluecoat Schools,
218. Sorrow's mention of Lieut. Parry,
333. Byron's ' Don Juan,' 240. " The
Derby Blues," 138. Edward the Confessor's
crown, 327. Elliston's (B. W.) place of educa-
tion, 250. Leicestershire street-names, 317.
" Let the weakest go to the wall," 177. London-
Paris Airship, 1835, 107. Maule (Mr. Justice),
64. Maules at Westminster School, 323. Mays
-at Westminster School, 164. Middleton
(Empson Edward), 8. The Million Bank, 181.
Morland Gallery, 132. Parry (Lieut.) in Sorrow's
works, 95. Peat (Bev. Sir Bobert), 23. Pidgeon
(H. C.) 130. Place (Francis), 233. Planting
graves with flowers, 15. Straw's (Jack) fate,
153. Surtees (B. S.), 305. Williams (Miss Helen
Maria), 244. Wills (William Henry) and Dr.
Dodd, 124
H. (W. S. B.) on Churches used for elections,
162. Preservation of Parliamentary Papers,
41
Haines (C. B.) on Shakespeare signatures, 207
Hall (H. I.) on 'Heraldic : changes in the shield of
Flanders, 238
Harford (Frederic D.) on " Bain cats and dogs,"
166
Hargrave (H.) on author of quotation wanted,
239
Harrnatopagos on James Cockle of Cockle's Pills, -
154
Harrison (Alfred Allen) on Edward Allen, painter
and engraver, 126
Harrison (H. G.) on Boyle's (Capt. Bobert)
Voyages, 329. Cantrell family, 332. Church
Briefs, 331
Hart (H. P.) on Cistercian Order in England,
320
Harting (Hugh) on Daudet's ' Jack,' illustrated
by Myrbach, 219
Harting (J. E.) on birds poisoning captive young,
273. Devonian priest executed, 1548-9, 243.
Legends about hedgehogs, 304. Master gunners
213. ' Mazonomus," 301. Pitt and Dundas at
New Cross, 195. Shakespeare and the garden,
193
Haswell (Geo. W.) on foundling entries in parish
registers, 72
Heaps (Bichard) on author of quotation wanted,
268
Henchman (Bev. Humphrey Llewellyn) on Hench-
man, Hensman, Hinchman or Hitchman family,
loo
Hersey (C. J.) on river-bed behind Devonshire
House, 288
Higham (Charles) on Joseph Clover of Norwich,
11
Hill (N. W.) on Aldridge (Ida P.), negro actor,
263. The ant-bear and the tortoise, 193. Blue-
coat school costume, 219. Boumphrey family,
138. Cromwell (Ensign Oliver) and Cromwell
Price, 331. Crowther and other names, 325.
Edward III.'s oath of fealty for Guienne, 160.
Elephant and Oliphant, 301. Elsinore (in
Denmark), 8. Emerson's ' English Traits,' 302.
Foch's (Marshal) surname, 203. Grim or Grime
in place-names, 160. Gunnersbury and Buislip,
231. ' Hamlet,' Act I., sc. iv., 36-8, 5. Hens-
lowe and Ben Jonson, 81. Hervey or Hervet,
personal name, 167, 246. Icke family, 24.
" Macaroni," origin of word, 159. Pragell,
family name, 139. Bede-birds, 329. Bichard
I.'s captivity, 21. Bichenda, Christian name,
324. " Bough " as house name, 164. Souls
exchanged in fiction, 191. " Straitsman," class
of ship, 128. Wilson's (President) ancestors,
51, 306
Hirst (W. A.) on Grim or Grime, in place-names,
95. Characters in Thackeray's " Newcomes,"
14
Hodgson (J. C.) on Andrew B. Wright, historian
and actor, 14
Hodgson (B. K.) on Gavelacre, place-name, 295
Hodson (Leonard J.) on Queen Anne and the
Sovereign's Veto, 156
Hogg (B. M.) on " Score " as street-name, 165.
W. H. Arnold, 126
Hommell (B. P.) on ' The Moat Island,' engraving,
238
Hooper (Wilfrid) on Joseph Hill, 258
Hooper (Bev. Willmore) on Thomas Shepard,
179
Hubbard (George) on J. Perey, artist, 150
Hudson (J.) on classical parallelisms to the war,
57
Hughes (Lewis) on Aaron Hugh, innkeeper, 126
Hulme (E. Wyndham) on Aliens in Maidstone in
1567, 169
Hutchison (W. A.) on the Ainslie Bond, 80. Author
of quotation wanted, 334. Jack Straw and Wat
Tyler, 217
Hytch (F. J.) on bibliography of epitaphs, 162
Ingleby (Clement), Maj., R.A.F., on Deering
(George), 319. Descendants of Edward Ingleby,
40
Inglis (John A.) on Col. A. B. Macdonell's duel
with Norman Macleod, 43
Inquirer (3) on Louisa spelt Leweezer, 237
Inverslaney on recognition of Scottish chiefs,
9
Irwin (Sir Alfred) on Bulteel, Carrique, Haynes
and Swanne marriages, 316. Twining-Haynes
marriage, c. 1808, 238
J. (G.), F.S.A., on the Greek flag, 174
J.|(G. H.) on Creighton on history, 66. Translation
of Virgil, 66
J. (J.) on " Drink by word of mouth," 98
J. (W. C.) on curious personal names, 206
J. (W. H.) on fable of countryman and field, 67
Notes and Queries, Jan., 1920.
AUTHORS' INDEX.
361-
Jaggard (Wm.), Capt., on an American link with
Winchester, 206. Aviation in XVIIIth century,
64. Bluecoat Schools, 159. Derivation of names,
326. Early reference to British Navy, 6. " Get
the needle," 194. Giants' names, 329. Phila-
delphian link with London, 148. Rime about
Dr. Fell, 315. Rime of East Anglian characters,
178. Shakespeare and the garden, 193. West-
minster Hall roof, 121. Wilson's (John) motto,
297
Johnston (G. D.) on Manor records, 244
Johnson (Gifford H.) on authors of quotations
wanted, 183
Jones (A. D.) on misuse of " up " and " down,"
262
Jones (E. Alfred) on Newton (G. S.), R.A., 236.
Use of salvers and patens, 50
Jones (T. Llechid Jones) on Fletcher of Madeley
and North Wales, 320
K. (H.) on the cock as French national emblem,
131. Henry de Langenstein, 299. " Tribion,"
French neologism, 287
K. (J.) on classical parallelism to the war, 189.
Exchange of souls in fiction, 246. Finkle Street,
279. " Scores," 279. " Thunder,"peculiar mean-
ing, 181.
K. (J.) (2) on author of book wanted, 267
K. (L. L.) on La Cour on Danish windmills, 103.
St. Cuthman, 77. St. Henry the Englishman,
Finnish bishop, 50. Three bishops in fifteenth
century, 107
Kaye (F. B.) on Bernard de Mandeville's works,
210
Kealy (Rev. A. G.) Chaplain, R.N., retired, on
the chaplain of flagship Constant Reformation,
10. Four gun salute at officer's burial at sea,
106. Kettle (Tilly), 189
Kellond (Walter M.) on Kellond surname, 154
Kent (W.) on Queen Anne's exercise of Royal
Veto, 95. Browne (Sir Thomas) and Tom Brown,
110
Knowles (Sir Lees) on St. Helena ' Life of Marl-
borough,' 70. " We Four Fools," 316
L. (F. de H.) on " Apo chromatic," 250. Surtees
(R. S.), 245. ' The Village Blacksmith's ' shop,
248
L. (G. G.) on accentuation changes in ' New
English Dictionary,' 166. Elliston's (R. W.)
place of education, 193. Proclamation stones,
221. Williams (Miss Helen Maria), 244
L. (J.) on Arnold (Matthew) and proving a nega-
tive, 38. Johnson (Samuel) confused with Ben
Jonson, 38
L. (M. N.) on Fielding (Miss Sarah) at Yew
Cottage, 182
Lambarde (Brigadier-General F. F.) on Gavelacre
as place-name, 333
Lampso on Odessa in Roman times, 98
Lane (John) on Denis (Sir Peter), 206. Tradesmen's
cards and billheads, 317
Jjangenfelt (G.) on " toponymies" in Great Britain,
290
Lau-Dza on medieeval immurement, 320
Le Couteur (John D.) on devils blowing horns or*
trumpets, 48. Herodias and St. John the
Baptist's head, 67 p
Leffmann (Dr. Henry) on " standard " in poem,
238
Leggatt (E. E.) on Newton (G. S.), R.A., 277.
Shepherd (George), 332
Lewis (Penry), C.M.G., on Lilliput and Gulliver, .
156. Paget (Sir Edward), 126. Tombstone
inscription at Badulla, 78, 167
Librarian on Charles Morris of Portman Square, -
330
Lincoln (C.) on author of quotation wanted, 295
Lingwood (H. R.) on Clements family, 126
Littow (E.) on Epictetus in Johnson's 'Anthologia *
Grseca,' 49
Loane (George G.) on changes of accentuation in
" N.E.D.", 105
Love (J.) on " — ney " in surnames, 290
Lucas (J. Landfear) on Austrian money from the
London Mint, 12. Countless Stones, Aylesford,
318. The Court of St. James in diplomacy, 265.
Cowap surname, 206. Elephant and OliphantT -
238. The French national emblem, 94. Kettle
(Tilly), artist, 154. Lombe (Sir John), 42,
Marazion place-name, 292. Napoleon's con-
versation with Lord John Russell, 12. Rome-
land, St. Albans, 294. Washington's (George)
wealth, 94
Luces on author of quotation wanted, 268
Luck (M.) on Caractacus and the Druids, 237
Lumb (G. D.) on Todd Anthony, 164
Lupton (E. Basil) on 'The Village Blacksmith,*"
299
M
M. on epitaphs to slaves, 26. A gilt wand, 97.
Kellond surname, 220. Morris (Charles), 330.
Pre-Raphaelite stained glass, 74. Pseudonyms,
329
M. (A.) on the Court of St. James, 324. Dehany
family and Lord John Vaughan, 330
M. (R.) on Seven Kings, place-name, 210
M. (W. J.) on metal mortars, 256
M.A. on May family, 194. John Price, clock-
maker, 305. " Old Lady of Threadneedle Street,'
302
M.A., Oxon., on Caractacus, 275. Clarke (Mary)
of New York, 278. ' Deacon in love,' 42.
Martins at Westminster, 277
M.D., E.E.F., on manor records, 182. War slang,
195
Me. on ancient British coins, 121. Births at sea
registered at Stepney, 261. Official peace
rejoicings, 234. Pyrgo Park and Old Bow
Bridge, 229. Raleigh's (Sir Walter) birth and
history, 15, 51. Reverie in Old Ratcliffe, 171.
Royal Commission on Public Records, third
report, 314. Thames peace pageant, 1919, 197.
Walthamstow's Manor House and Cogan's
School, 286
MacArthur (William) on bibliography of epitaphs,
130. ' Irrelagh,' Irish story, 139
McCord (David Ross) on Bunnett (Henry), artist,
66. Cartwright family, 97. Danvers family,
320. Palliser (Capt.), explorer, 123
•362
AUTHORS' INDEX.
Notes and Queries, Jan., 1920.
HcDonnell (Michael F. J.) on Elliston's (B. W.)
place of education, 216. Morlands and New-
comes at Hackney and Bethnal Green, 141.
Wyborne family, 49
McGovern (Rev. J. B.) on ' Albania,' 211. Bor-
row's localities, 165. Curious Christian epitaph,
314. Exchange of souls in fiction, 306. ' Irre-
lagh.' Irish story, 69, 105. The longest bow-
shot, 220. " Nunquam minus solus quam cum
solus," 38. Southey's contributions to ' Critical
Review,' 187. Statements about two popes,
266. " Wildering " and " wilding," 98
McGrigor (G. D.) on Lord [John] Vaughan, 268
Maconchy (Miss A. F.) on Heraldic : Woolmer
House, Bramshott, 180
MacPhail (D.) on authors of quotations wanted,
15
MacPhail (E. Monteith) on " Sons of Ichwe,"
48
McPike (Eugene F.) on Flamsteed (John) and
Dr. Edmond'Halley, 64. Stepney (George) at
Vienna, 37. Waddingham family of Yorkshire,
97
MacSweeny (J. J.) on augury in Shakespeare, 5.
' St. Stephen and Herod,' 315
Magrath (Dr. John R.) on pre-Raphaelite stained
glass, 105
Malleson (J. P.) on Matthew Arnold and " Anglo-
Saxon contagion," 38
Marshall (George) on the Houghton meeting, 250.
Key to ' Trilby,' 245. Leap Year : lady's offer
of marriage, 24. A maxim of Vauvenargues,
105. Panton Street Puppet Show, 83. Raleigh
(Sir Walter) and Queen Elizabeth at Sandgate,
273. Straw (Jack) and Wat Tyler, 217. Thac-
keray's ' Newcomes,' 77. Washington's (George)
wealth, 221
Martin (Edward A.) on a portrait said to be of
Gilbert White, 264.
Maw (Gerald W.), F.R.C.S., on records of Maw
family, 10
Maxwell (George) on ' Bertram de Bourne,' 318
Maxwell (Sir Herbert) on ' Fish-yard,' its mean-
ing, 216. Origin of " Querelle d'Allemand," 9.
Plane trees in London, 272. St. Trunnion's
identity, 54. Washington (Henry), 290
Maycock (Sir Willoughby) on " Abanazar," 106.
Alabaculia, name of racehorse, 163. Houghton
meeting, 154. Macdonell's (Col. A. R.) duel
with Norman Macleod, 43, 76. " Dinkum
Shop," 7. Napoleon I. and Lord John Russell,
47. Chesterfield letters, 215. " Old Lady of
; ! Threadneedle Street," 302. A riddle by George
Selwyn, 153. Seven Kings, place-name, 249
Menmuir (Charles), M.A., on banknote slang, 309
Mercer (H. C.) on the log house, 320. Thumb
latch, 321
Mew (J. H. Lsthbridge) on John Miers, profilist,
162
Mildmay (H. A. St. J.), Col., on New Chesterfield
letters, 154
Milner (Rev. A. B.), enquiry about Edmund
Clerke, clerk of the Privy Seal, 12
Milward (Graham) on Lucien Bonaparte's capti-
vity in England, 236
Minakata (Kumagusu) on the ant-bear and the
tortoise, 125. Boys born in May, 25. Cutting,
hair to prevent stomach-ache, 138. Early
English use of word " kimono," 80. Old Chinese
idea of submarines, 131
Minchin (Hamilton) on Diirer and Wilibald Pirk-
heimer, 231
Mitford (B. R.) on Bannister family of Antigua,
152
Moffat (Alex G.) on Grim or Grime in place-names,
160. St. Alkelda, her name, 247. Swin — swift
(channel), 166
Molloid on author of quotation wanted, 322
Moriarty (L. E.) on Master Gunner's status, 153
Morgan (F. C.) on Charles Morris of Portman
square, 264
Morley (Christopher) on Dyer (George) (1755-
1841), 237. Wilson (John), bookseller, 237
Morley (Claude), F.E.S., F.Z.S., on hedgehogs
sucking milk, 105
Maule (Margaret A.) on the Feast of the Assump-
tion and the Sign of the Cross, 236
Murray (John) on ' Adeste Fideles,' its date, 292
N
N. (G. M.) on Devey family, 95
Nelson (Philip), M.D., on St. John Baptisn heads,
209
Newall (George) on Aldelima, 1280, 157. ' The
Tragedy of Nero,' and ' Piso's Conspiracy,' 299
News Reader on " Abanazar," 68
Nicoll (Allardyce), M.A., on " Farewel Folly "
and " The Amorous Miser," plays, 310. ' Tragedy
of Nero ' and ' Piso's Conspiracy,' 254
Noble (Richmond) on ' Hamlet,' Act I., sc. iv.,
36-8, 116
Norman (Philip) on Pitt and Dundas at New
Cross, 151. Raleigh's (Sir Walter) connection
with East London, 16. Shepherd (George),
artist, 295
North (Miss Mary) on Mrs. Siddons' descendants,
318
Novice on Capt. Robert Boyle, 294
O'Brien (George) on authors of quotations wanted,
42. Works by Henry Langenstein and Henri cus
de Hoyta, 265
Observer on Fellows of New College, Oxford, 118.
Mills at Bransford, Worcestershire, 149
Odell (Rev. F. J.), R.N., on Kellond surname, 220.
Proclamation stones, 178
Old East Anglian on Markshall and Fuller family,
78. Stags and eglantine on crests, 13
Oldroyd (Rev. J. B.) on " Go to Exeter " in
murder trial, 14
Oliphant (E. H. C.) on authorship of play " Double
Falsehood," 30, 60, 86
Oliver (V. L.), F.S.A., on inscriptions in Maryle-
bone burial ground, 236. Marthas at West-
minster, 277. Plays at Westminster School,
164
Oliphant (W. Elwin) on elephant and Oliphant,
334
Oliver (V. L.) on Neate family, 50
Oughtred (A. E.) on Heraldic : Sa., a lion ram-
pant between six fusils in pale, 154. " Rain
cats and dogs," 108
Owen (Douglas) on "As dead as a door-nail," 303
Oxberry (John) on Wright (A. B.), historian and
actor, 78
Oyez on Forster family of Hanslope, 61
Notes and Queries, Jan., 1920.
AUTHORS' INDEX.
363
P. (C. H. S.) on epitaplTto slave, 81
P. (F. J.) on key to " Trilby," 245
P. (G.) on Gilbert White'sTsupposed portrait, 333
P. (C. A.) on key to " The Private Life of Henry
Maitland," 269
P. (W. S.) on ' The Village Blacksmith's ' Shop,
248
Page (F.) on atithor of 'quotation wanted, 295
Page (John T.) on^augury in Shakespeare, 116.
Authors of quotations wanted, 26. Heraldic :
sable, on a chevron argent, 80. Pre-Raphaelite
stained glass, 74. Bain and mowing, supersti-
tion, 41. Raleighv(Sir Walter), 51. Statues
and memorials in the British Isles, 89, 245
palmer (J. Foster) on Caractacus and Druids, 275.
Cockle (James), 190. The gender of " Dish " in
Latin, 266. " Oh, dear ! What can the matter
be ? " Latin version, 133. " Pro pelle cutem,"
93, 217. Shakespeare and the garden, 193.
" When you die of old age I shall quake for
fear," 278 >*«» ;
Park (Rev. R.) on Charles I.'s journey from
Oxford to Southwell, 182. Lord Roberts' death-
place, 219
Parker (Harry) on etchings by T. Parker, 241
Parker (R. James) on Rev. Sir Robert Peat, 23
Parry (G. S.) Lieut.-Col., on inscriptions in St.
John the Evangelist's, Waterloo Road, 63
Patching (John) on Queen Anne and the Sover-
eign's Veto. 156
Paterson (Miss E. W.) on Scotland's four royal
rivers, 291
Paton (Jas. A.) on Shakespeare and the garden,
153
Paul (Miss Bertha F. H.) on "Bambino "wax
figure, 207
Pawson (Montague) on Dr. Stocks, 237
Payen-Payne (de V.) on Gibbon's prophecy about
' Tom Jones,' 268. Keys to Du Maurier's
' Trilby ' and Roberts' ' Life of Henry Mait-
land,' 151. Origin of word " camouflage," 136.
" Rain cats and dogs," 108. " Spidometre,"
French neologism, 287. " Toponymies," 331
Pearson (Howard S.) on Bluecoat School at
Birmingham, 158
Pengelly (R. S.) on Beaconsfield's (Disraeli,
Earl of), birthplace, 328. Bluecoat schools, 302.
Dillon (Chevalier Peter), 272
Penny (Frank) on " Deacon in love," 104
Phillips (Lawrence) on " If I should die to-night,' '
318. An unfinished eleventh-century law case,
293
Phillips (Maberly), F.S.A., on " Old Lady of
Threadneedle Street," 238
Phillips (Walter H.) on convex and conic lights,
125 .; . : - »;
Pierpoirit (Robert) on Capt. B. Grant, 298.
Dealers in back-magazines, 40. Dessin's Hotel,
Calais, 20. " Est melius nunquam felicia
tempora nosse," &c., 317. Exchange of souls in
fiction, 279. "Fire out," 121. "Hints to
Freshmen in the University of Oxford,' 290.
" Let the weakest go to the wall," 222. Master
gunner, 278. Moresnet, 205. " Never pro-
phesy unless you know," 315. Origin of name
" Tanks," 176. A Philadelphian link with
London, f 188. Piano legs in trousers, 261.
Pierpoint (Robert) on
Regimental nicknames, 19. The Sovereign's
Veto, 155, 214, 272. " State room " — pas-
senger's cabin, 104. Tennyson on opium, 36.
" Yeoman of the Mouth," 322
Pigott (Wm. Jackson) on Divorce lists, 207.
Vickers family of Fulham, 123
Pinchbeck (W. H.) on Folk-lore : red hair, 218.
Good Friday pleasure fairs, 163 4 .-«
Pinfolder on submerged tracks or footpaths, 70
Pirie-Gordon (H.) on Alexander Collingwood's
wife, 320
Pollard (Harry P.) on Huett tomb, 206. Mary
Clarke of New York, 236, 278
Ponder (S.) on a version of " Malbrook s'en va-
t-en guerre," 25 (
Powlett (N.) Col., on lona place-name, 40.
' Quentin Durward,' 306. A tombstone in-
scrpition, 305. " Valhalla," its form, 237
Price (Leonard C.) on Andrews family, 124.
" Argyles " or gravy-pots, 154. Arms on stone
entablature, 293. Chapman family, 40. Duffus
family, 207. Egioke family, 14. Garnham and
Hillman families, 67. Glamorgan Volunteer
Rangers, 67. Le Hardy (F.) miniaturist, 207
Prima Facie on Heraldic : stags and eglantyne,
100
Prior (C. M.) on Alabaculia, name of racehorse, 98
Prosser (G.) on Richard Prosser, civil engineer, 319
Purblind on author of quotation wanted, 322
Quarrell (W.' H.) on metal mortars, 277
R. (G. R. Y.) on Stanhopes at Westminster School,
218
R. (H.) on inscriptions in Gipping Church, 138
R. (J. H.) on bats as pattern of door-knockers,
149. " Gram " in place-names, 266. MS. list
of Crusaders, 236
R. (J. P.) on " Penniles Bench," 194. Records of
merchant marks, 22
R. (L. G.) on absence of memorials to first Duke
of Maryborough, 91. " The beautiful Mrs.
Conduitt," 321
R. (W. D.) on rede-birds, 265
Radford (A. J. V.) on Thomas Wakefield, Hebraist,
91
Ramsey-Kent (P.) on Kent family of Winchester
and Reading, 52, 183
Raner (A. Kate) on Boase family, 161
RatclifEe (Thos.) on bird-scaring songs, 132.
" Mantle-maker's twist," 75. Smoking before
introduction of tobacco, 82
Regi Semper Fidelis on Clifton family, 98
Rickword (G.) F.R.Hist.Soc., on Bluecoat schools,
332
Rivett-Carnac (Col. J. H.) on Hotel Bristol in
Calcutta, 25
Rigbye (R. E. Kellet) on Blades family, 40
Rockingham on toad-juice, 166
Roe (Herbert C.) on Byron's ' Don Juan,' cantos 17
and 18, 240
Rogers (J. Docwra) on brasses at East Hatley,
260
Row (Prescott) on church briefs, 331. ' Swiss
Family Robinson,' 320
364
AUTHORS' INDEX.
Notes and Queries, Jan., 1920.
.Rowan (A. E.) on Boulogne Begisters and Epi
taphs, 222
Rowe ( J. Hambley) on Sorrow's proposed book on
Cornwall, 237. Boase family, 95. English
parishes in 1705, 122. Giants' names, 267.
Harvey (Francis) of Natal, 68. Channel Swin,
95
Budkin (Major H. E.) on Blackman and Sampson
families of Sussex, 181
Bussell (Constance, Lady) on " Argyles " or
gravy-pots, 219. Burning of fire-ship Fire-
brand, 317. Coorg State princess, 296. Denis
(Sir Peter), 242. Hyde (Edward), D.D., 104.
Kettle (Tilly), 189. Mercury drawn by two
cocks, 214
Bussell (F. A.) on meaning of " water-pipes "
(Psalm xlii.), 50. Topographical slip of
Dickens, 37
S. on Boutell's punning catalogue of painting and
sculpture, 173. Definition of an ambassador,
243. Matthew Arnold and proving a negative,
83
S. (C. L.) on author of quotations wanted, 223.
Exchange of souls in fiction, 246
S. (F. H.) on paten or salver, 134
S. (H. K. St. J.) on " Abdolla," its meaning, 243.
Johnson's ' Anthologia Graeca,' 10. ' Hamlet,'
Act I. sc. iv. 36-8, 4. " Heater-shaped," 22.
Pre-Raphaelite stained glass, 74. " Pro pelle
cutem," 250. Wordsworth's ' Excursion ' and
Grasmere Church, 234
S. (J.) on ancient customs, 318
S. (J. W.) on Scotchman's Post, 123
S. (W. B.) on Ismenia, 25
St. Swithin on Anguish Street, 165. " As dead
as a door-nail," 304. Bird-scaring songs, 246.
Bluecoat School at York, 158. Definition of
ambassador, 243. Etymology of Grim or
Grime, 137. " Flummery," 192. George Sel-
wyn's riddle, 188. Good Friday pleasure fairs,
164. Hereditary long hair, 177. Indentures
and Frazer (Sir J. G.), 148. Master gunners,
211. Missel thrush and mistletoe seeds, 132.
Mrs. Grundy, 233. " Royal Ante diluvian
Order of Buffaloes," 237. St. John Baptist
heads, 238. Shakespeare and the garden, 193.
" Sheer hulk " and " Spanish Main," 65.
Soul's attention to a corpse, 205. Swin
Channel, 130. Toad-juice, 70. Trousered
piano legs, 301. Two popes : their histories,
305
Salmon (Principal David) on Napoleon I. and
Lord John RusseU, 48
Sampson (Rev. G.) on bird-scaring songs, 98.
Missel thrush and mistletoe seeds, 98
Samuel (Arthur Michael) on Emerson's ' English
Traits,' 275
Sanigar (Wm.) on astertion flowers, 302. Bell
Tavern, Broad Street, Bristol, 295. Merchant
marks , 23
Scottish Student on the Ainslie Bond, 41
Seton-Anderson (James) on Sir Francis Anderson's
descendants, 122. Baillie (Dr. George Robert-
son), 161. Baillie (Thomas), 293. Boumphrey
family, 67. List of marriages, 262. Simpson
(Robert), royal farrier, 67. Turner (Wm.) of
Shrigley Park, 94, 249
Shakespear (Col. John) on 1811 Derby Race, 124.
Shakespear (Hon. John) of Jamaica, 124.
Shakespear (John) of RatclifE Highway, 151.
Translations wanted, 295
Sharland (Miss E. Cruwys) on " Argyles," 327.
Paten or salver, 13
Sharp (W.) on white horse of Kent landscape, 25
Sheridan (R. B. C.) on Patrick Brady, 291
Sherwood (George) on Boulogne : Registers and
Epitaphs, 223. ( Fund for Preserving Memorials
of the Dead in Ireland, 218. Manor records,
244. Marriage records, 305. Million Bank.
222
Singer (Dorothea Waley) on mediaeval scientific
MSS., 206
Smith (Edward) on bibliography of epitaphs, 130
Smith (Prof. G. C. Moore) on " Bonfire Night,"
lines, 318. Christmas verses spoken by child-
ren, 46. Puritan and his cat, 232
Smith (John Anderson), M.D., on pronunciation
of " apochromatic," 209, 277
Smith (J. de Berniere) on forgotten writers, 189
Smith (O. King) on St. Cuthman, 76
Smith (W. R. F.) on Shropshire names, 266
Snell (Molly H.) on author of quotation wanted,.
211
Southam (Col. Herbert) on Allin R. Burt, minia-
ture painter, 167. George Street, Portman
Square, London, 209. House wherein Lord
Roberts died, 125. Longest bowshot, 180*
Lucien Bonaparte, prisoner in England, 300.
Master gunners, 213. Mrs. Susan Cromwell,
277. Submarine boat at Paris, 1850, 162.
" Why don't they eat cake," 162
Sparke (A.) on " As jolly as sandboys," 279.
Back-magazine dealers, 104. Bibliography of
epitaphs, 130. Blackwell Hall Factor, "306.
Bonaparte (Lucien), prisoner in England, 300.
Brown (Joseph), 54. Clay balls as Christmas
collecting boxes, 80. Clenock (Rev. Dr.) 161.
Cock as the French national emblem, 131.
Court of St. James, 3(24. Cowap surname, 247.
Derivation of surnames, 325. Domestic use of
patens, 60. Elephant and Oliphant. 301.
Etymology of Grim or Grime, 137. " Fed up,"
169. Fenner family, 274. " Flummery," 149.
Foundling entries in parish registers, 40.
" Get the needle," 194. Graves planted with
flowers, 166. Interment in other families*
graves, 121. Knibb (Joseph), clockmaker, 241.
Labour-in- Vain, as street name, 193. Longest
bowshot, 220. " Lorribus," 205. Marazion,
328. Merchant marks and ancient finger-rings,
22. Million Bank, 222. New Shakspere
Society's publications, 162. Pseudonyms,
293. Rede-birds, 329. Robertson, minia-
turist, of Dublin, 249. St. Helena ' Life of
Marlborough,' 108. " Scotchman's Post," 188.
Shepherd (George), 322. Statues and Memo-
rials in the British Isles, 312. Stewart (Hon.
Lieut. George), 75. Stocks (Dr. J. E.), 333.
Taylor (Sir Charles Wm.), Bt., 190. Souls ex-
changed in fiction, 191. War slang, 19.
Williams (Miss Helen Maria), 244
Speinchorn (C.), D.Phil., on John Norcross, 291
Steiner (Bernard C.) on " Nablette " and " Bonte-
feu," 66
Stephen '(George A.) on Norfolk manuscripts, 217
Stewart (Alan) on J. Turner, painter, 131
Stewart-Brown (R.) on " Thwertnic " or
" Thiertnie," old Cheshire custom, 93
Stockley (Prof. W. F. P.) on changes in accentua-
tion noted in ' New English Dictionary,, 32
Notes and Queries, Jan., 1920.
AUTHORS' INDEX.
365
Stocker (Charles J.) on George Stocker, Devonian
priest, 183
Stockton (Helen Hamilton) on Richard Stockton
of Kiddington, 94
Stone (J. Harris) on author of quotation wanted,
239.
Stratton (Charles E.) on ' The Poor Thresher '
(song), 66
Strugnell (G. Kenneth) on schools, &c., of St.
Dunstan's-in-the-East, 69
Swithinbank (J. W.) on furniture screws and pegs,
236. Three metal mortars, 209
Swynnerton (Charles), F.S.A., on a Gloucester
Charter of Henry I., 73
Sykes (H. Dugdale) on Tourneur's ' Revenger's
Tragedy ' ; ' Second Maiden's Tragedy,' 225
T. (W. M.) on "Clarte est la bonne foi des
philosophes," 39, 135. Coleridge on immor-
tality, 39.
T. (Y.) on Brown family of Brown's Bay, 98.
Byron's bust at Oxford, 122
Tapley-Soper (H.) on Heraldic : captor and his
captive's arms, 133. " Scrounge," 18. " Eye-
wash," 19
Tavare" (Fred. L.) on Charles I. farthing found,
195. Cromwell (Mrs. Susan), 232. Discoveries
in coins, 301. Early map of New York, 204.
Westcott (Philip), portrait painter, 246
Taylor (J. Marshall) on Bluecoat Schools, 126
Taylor (William) on Prudentius's ' Psychomachia,'
Temple (Sir Richard C.) on clayballs as Christmas
collecting boxes, 39. Correspondence of Richard
Edwards, 33, 117. Four gun salute at officer's
burial at sea, 38
Thomas (Ralph) on Cornish biographers, 88
Thorns (Alex.) on " scores," 165
Thorn-Drury (G.) on William Peer, the alleged
actor, 331
Thorne (J. R.) on " Digger " and " Bill Jim," 19.
Heart burial, 134
Toke (N. E.) on " As dead as a door-nail," 304
Treich (L.) on foreign offspring of ' N. & Q.,' 38
Tomson (Octavius) on J. Turner, painter, 69
Turner (Frederic) on Moore or More family of
Egham, Surrey, 264, 284
Turpin (Pierre) on devils blowing horns, 186.
Edward the Confessor's crown, 238. Repre-
sentations of the Blessed Trinity, 215
Tyrrell (T. W.) on " Three Cripples " tavern, 334
U
Udal (J. S.) F.S.A., on hereditary scholarship,
297. Shield of Flanders, 323. Suggested
change in the Royal Arms, 1
V. on Fund for Preserving MemoriaL=fof the Dead
in Ireland, 218
Valeat quantum, on Wright family of South
Elmsall, 159
Venn (John) on '^Alumni Cantabrigienses.'£66
W
W. (A. T.) on Marazion place-name, 328
W. (F.) on Finkle as street-name, 109
W. (G. H.) on Charles I.'s journey from Oxford to
Southwell, 326. Locality of Fremland, Essex,
295. Nicholson (General John), 330. Seven
Kings, place-name, 249. Thames tunnels, 298
W. (J. B.) on ' Greek Anthology ' at Eton, 75
W. (J. C.) on bibliography of epitaphs, 218
W. (J. D.) on labour, land and capital, 154
W. (W. R.) on " The Derby Blues," 97. Kent
family, 106
Wainewright (John B.) on ' Adeste fideles ' and
Rabelais, 329. " As dead as a door-nail," 304.
Cambrai and Le Cateau mentioned, 1577, 26.
Challoner's (Richard) family, 235. Clenock
(Rev. Dr.), 161. Clerke (Edmund), clerk of the
Privy Seal, 83. Coorg State princess, 298.
Cotesmore (Thomas), 292, 334. Derivation of
names, 326. Durston (John) and Dale (John),
276. Executions of West-Country priests, 96,
332. Emerson's ' English Traits,' 275. For-
gotten writers, 150. Garrett, Portuguese poet,
182. Hoorde (William), 179. Hopkins, Michell
and Cotesmore, priests, 292. Knibb (Joseph),
clockmaker, 123. Lakes Fascholler and Calen-
dari, 13. " Lambendo effingere " and " Lick
into shape," 69. Lewknor family, 201. ' The
Light Invisible,' book-title, 123. Maison Rouge,
Frankfort, 321. Marazion, 328. " Non-
naturals," 176. Occurrence of " camouflage "
in American telegram, 42. Old clock and
watchmakers, 153, 237. Peat (Rev. Sir
Robert), 23. Powell (David) priest at Brussels,
295. Richard I.'s captivity, 21. Russell
(Charles) or Russel, Winchester Scholar, 207.
Rutter family name, 54. St. Henry the
Englishman, 50. Scot (Philip), 211. ' Struw-
welpeter ' in English, 68. Sylke epitaph at
Exeter, 152. Wainewright (Jeremiah), 180.
Warnford (Richard), Winchester Scholar, 266,
324. Wodecocke (Lawrence), 318
Wallis-Tayler (A. W.) on Grafton, Oxon., 320.
Hamilton of Liscloony, 317. Longworth
Castle, Herefordshire, 320
Walters (H. B.) on Hampshire church bells and
their founders, 109
Ward (Joseph Heald) on Herrick's debt to Andrew
Willet, 37. Parkinson family, 97
Waters (Arthur W.) on Charles Lamb's em-
ployers, 287
Watkin (Hugh R.) on Crusaders' names, 293.
Kellond surname, 189. Proclamation stones,
275
Watson-Taylor (John) on Edward Hyde, D.D.,
105. Louisa spelt Lueazer, 276
Wayman (H. W. B.) on Anguish as street-name,
and " scores," 165, 221
Weekley (Prof. Ernest) on Cowap surname, 247
Weeks (Wm. Self) on Bell and Shoulder tavern
sign, 109. Churches used for election of
municipal officers, 127. Clay balls as Christ-
mas collecting boxes, 79. Foundling entries in
Parish Registers, 71. Indentures, 211. Mar-
riage entries in duplicate, 198. Rose of
Denmark tavern sign, 138. St. Alkelda, 190.
' Three Black Crows,' its authorship, 160
Welby (Alfred) on " shiffle-shuffle," 177
Wheeler (C. B.) on points in ' Quentin Dvrwardr
268. Tombstone inscription, 305
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Notes and Queries, Jan., 1920.
Wherry (George) on George Dyer's portrait, 301
White (G. H.) on " Biager," 24. Bluecoat Schools
218.*=* Daudet's ' Jack,' 150. Gloucester
Charter, and Roger de Gloucester, 18, 73.
Louisa spelt Leweezer, 276. Roger de Glou-
cester in ' Domesday,' 233. Souls exchanged
in fiction, 191. Spurious charter, 261
White (Thos.) on Gibbon's prophecy about * Tom
Jones,' 303
Whitebrook (J. C.) on James Wheatley, cobbler,
267
Whitebrook (Margaret) on Dickens : topographical
slip, and peculiarity of style, 164. Markshall
and Honywood family, 78
Whitehead (Dr. John L.) on Hampshire church
bells, 46
Whitfield (A. Stanton), F.R.Hist.S., on an auto-
graph fragment of Tennyson, 67
Whitley (William T.) on Dessin's Hotel, Calais,
51. Morlandf Gallery, 132
Wienholt (Mrs. E. C.) on hereditary long hair, 247.
Wilberforce-Bell (H.) on Parks or Perks family,
317. Persons of name of Wilson, 293
Willcock (Dr. John), on " As jolly as sandboys,"
180. Scott's satire on Church of England
Marriage Service, 208, 278. Shetland collection
for Breslau churches, 181
Williams (Aneurin) on " Abdolla," 182. Ann of
Swansea, 322. Burton (Richard), 95.
Clenock (Rev. Dr.), 124. " Congewoi," its
meaning, 264. Edition of ' Baptiste Mantuani
Carmelite,' 12. Fletcher (John William), 293.
Griffith (Ralph), founder of The Monthly Review,
236. Hamilton (Walter), F.R.G.S., 318.
Hugo (Rev. Thomas), 207. Lloyd (Helicon),
68. Names in Carew Tournament, 152. Owens
(Susannah). 68. Translations of Christian
Fathers, 330. Williams (Miss Helen Maria),
180. v Williams (John), c. 1671, 207. Wilson
(Richard) R.A., his pupils, 237
Williams (W. R.) on Army officers' obituary,
1727-60, 293. Brassey or Bracey family, 302.
Concannon family, 266. Cromwell (Oliver),
ensign, 292. Denis (Sir Peter), 242. Dennfe
the hangman's fate, 235. English Army list
of 1740, 270. Grant (Col. Colquhoun), 250.
Haviland (General William), 278. Kettle
(Tilly), 221. Master gunners, 212. Million
Bank, 222. Taylor (Sir Charles Wm.) Bt., 190.
Tower of London : Yeoman of the Guard and
Tower warders, 192. Uvedale (Edmund), 316.
Yeoman of the Mouth, his duties, 239
Wilson (Mrs. Georgina) on origin of Christina*
carol, 320
Wittam (Philip) on authors of quotations wanted,
Wordsworth (Chr.) on old dance tunes hi Salis-
bury Cathedral Library, 85
Wright (Herbert G.) on an uncle of Strindberg, 3
X.X. on authors of quotations wanted, 42
Xylographer on author of quotation wanted, 98»
Hodges (Charles Howard), engraver, 321
Y. (G. R.) on author of quotation wanted, 322
Yates (W. S.) on Church of England Marriage
Service, 242
Yeardye (John) on Yeardye family, 209
Yeo (W. Curzon) on list of Bluecoat Schools, 158
Young (D. W.) on Melkart's statue, 292
Younge (G. W.) on bibliography of epitaphs, 274
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